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I really don't like that Red Super Saiyan is called Super Saiyan God instead of Saiyan God, as it's basically god ki+base form. I would wish Super Saiyan Blue to be called Super Saiyan God instead of the red one.
I've been thinking the same thing for a while. Problem is that SSB was not thought of when SSG came about. One of the downsides of Akira's more off the cuff writing style. Would have been great if Dragon Ball Super retconned the names. But it may have just made things confusing.
I don’t like this either, but it’s worth noting that SSJB isn’t actually SSJB, it’s just a shortened name made by Goku, Vegeta and Whis because it originally was a tongue twister. The actual name is of course SSJGSSJ or SSGSS, which makes sense as there’s two SSJs in it.
@@link1565V2 More like someone high up at toei shoehorned for blue/a new transformation to sell more toys. Ssb was a mistake & hopefully Toyo can fully drop the form out of the manga once it returns.
@@Shorts-wb4hqNo it isn't, SSJG has a multitude of differences to base, SSJ and SSJB. I can, of the top of my head, name 7, one for each dragon ball. 1. SSJG is the first canonical transformation to ever have a different aura colour to hair colour 2. SSJG is the first transformation in canon and non-canon to have a texture in the aura in the burning inferno it is 3. SSJG makes Goku look leaner 4. SSJG makes Goku look younger 5. SSJG is the first transformation to increase clothes and skin saturation rather than merely brightening it and yet remains the only one to do so. 6. SSJG is the first and still only transformation where the hair colour has a colour gradient: red-pink and arguably only if light is not a factor. 7. It's also the first transformation to keep the base form hair. SSJB has none of this and is just a lazy recolour of SSJ.
Nope think about it 6 saiyans combined power to become a god version what you going to call it Saiyan pretend god by 5 other powers of other saiyans 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@BucketWasTakenTwiceyeah the manga utilize SSJ God more, especially on the earlier arc where Super Saiyan Blue was still "Unstable". I remember in the U7 vs U6 arc Goku only use SSJ Blue in short bursts switching back and forth with SSJ God while attacking when fighting Hit instead of straight up transforming into Blue the whole fight. It's also nice to see that Super Broly movie thankfully utilized the red form a decent amount (granted, Broly did beat the crap out of Goku) before Goku goes to Blue.
True. SSGJ is almost a technique, where you simply alter your ki to be divine filled. Almost making it a fluid form like MUI, compared to SSGSSJ which is like SSJ in that it is a straight power reach, powerhouse form. It makes sense why Goku and Vegeta both went SSGJ against Broly, yet they went straight to SSGSS for Jiren. Jiren is such a controlled and fluid fighter that the only way to beat him would be raw power, like we saw with Goku and Frieza (other than mui but that is obviously too strong too). Whereas with Broly, Goku and Vegeta recognize his power and non controllable style, realizing it makes no sense to go blue kiaoken or evolution because they cant go past Broly with power unless they SERIOUSLY surpass him due to his never ending power rising constantly. Gogeta Blue was miles ahead so that was the answer. Clearly, they knew as individuals it would require finess to beat him. Which explains maybe why Goku almost went MUI while powering up. He may have been trying to tap into it to out finesse Broly, but he realized he couldnt transform mid power up so he settled for blue to try and cook.)@@saintreem
@@saintreemand I think what I said has context clues like the hair being in a relaxed state only during base, ssgj, and mui, and maybe even kiaoken. Implying these are simply techniques with different purposes. Whereas any form that required ssj ability his hair stands up as a clear indicator of a massive inward surge of power in his saiyan cells.
I personally think they should never have done SSB. Having SSG fighting Freeza would still be a cool reveal ( _"Oh Cool! Goku has learned to use SSG at will"_ ) And then having Vegeta do it as well, would still have been Hype.
If I'm being Fr with you... SSGSSB is 50x stronger than SSG but it literally doesn't feel that way, in the anime and manga it just feels like a 10x multiplier at most
@@michaelmamba1578 It Was Literaly Stated That SSGSSB Is A A Super Saiyan Form Which Has × 50 Multiplier + Super Saiyan God Form Which Has × 20,000 Multiplier Which Is = × 1,000,000 Multiplier.
@@DarthHide1234 you might wanna go and rewatch that cuz ik what ur referring to and he says “this is a super saiyan form of a saiyan who has the powers of a super saiyan god”, ie a super saiyan with god ki but because db goofies want to see the highest power level they ALWAYS assume the highest jump possible. If they meant a 50x multiplier wouldn’t they have just said that? I mean ultimately it’s up to interpretation cuz we technically don’t have a correct answer(even tho some speculations make more sense considering that ssg was better in some situations, but yes blue is overall stronger) but it makes more sense that’s it’s NOT a 50x multiplier just like an ssj3 is only 4 times stronger than ssj2🤷♂️
@@DarthHide1234 and it wasn’t “literaly” stated lmao u just thought. Also why can’t it be base x50 then the god multiplier kicks in. Properties of multiplication. You might wanna learn them
slight correction at 6:18, its not that gokus super saiyan god was stronger than vegetas blue, as stated by whis vegeta used it to much in one day and due to the energy drain of Blue vegeta wasnt able to use any more than 10 percent of its power, not because his blue is inheirently weaker than gokus god form, but just that his energy had been exhausted, but since goku hadnt used blue yet, his energy wasnt exhausted so god was more than enough to deal with hit, had vegeta not wanted to show off his strength and superiority of the blue form he could have also dealt with hit in god with relative ease, hope that clears things up
@breu5747 no, it was literally said by whis he can't even use 10% of his power, given the fact that we aren't told a number less than that the weakest we can put him at is 1/10th of his power, about 10 percent or slightly less
Yes gokus God was stronger than vegetas weakened blue, no the multiplier isn't less than 50x god, would the information conflict with itself, yes, bit those are the facts of the series, yes it seems contradictory but it is what it is
that was a very interesting video, can you maka a video about vegeta's ssb evo? maybe in comparison with normal ssb or goku's ssb kaioken or even talking about vegeta's eyes an what they have to do with ssb... because your videos are amazing (especially dragon balls video or at least for me)
@AventSir Depends, Ssjg was far less draining, but when Goku and Vegeta perfected Ssjb, it became a lot better by far. But even with regular ssjb, I'd still say it's so much stronger where it might balance out the disadvantages with the ki drain. But the most effective way would just be to go blue on impact, but the rest of the battle maintain ssjg, just like they did in the Goku Black arc.
5:20 it's theorized this happaned causs the saiyan spirit, the saiyan that first achived Super Saiyan died with regret, their soul wandered the universe with the Saiyan God prophechy, once goku performed the ritual, the saiyan soul was summoned and gave goku god Ki That's why in the fight Goku Himself even stated a voice in his head guided him on how to use God Ki effectively
1.000X multiplier over base form seems pretty insane. By now his base form is stronger than SSJ in Namek. This would make SSG hundreds of times star-buster level.
9:31 No matter how many explainations I get, it would have made way more sense for the red form to be called "Sayian God" and the blue form to be "Super Sayian God". The one exception is that it took Super Sayians to come together to make it. So it would be odd that super sayians would produce a regular sayian power. But we can ignore that if we considered that it was their power combining that made the transformation and not their type of power. Just the amount. As he stated in the video, the red for is diffferent from the blue form, hes skinnier, sort of uniquely adjusted. Where as the blue form is literally just the blonde form but with blue color visually.
I'd say if he's in for a long fight its better to go with ssg or do what vegeta did and keep switching. In a short fight however turning blue and pulling out the ki belt is far better.
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Yeah, 6:18 was a pretty big miss tbh. You even showed the panel where Whis explained why Goku was stronger than Vegeta in the Hit fight and still glossed over it, painting a narrative that Goku had better mastery over the form when that wasn't the reason for his better performance at all.
Yeah wasn’t it because Vegeta had went blue against Cabba to “show off” so when he entered the form again he was only able to use like 10% of his actual strength?
8:35 is why I think the argument of SSj4 vs Blue is ridiculous. SSjG would already be a higher multiplier then SSj4 is, he’d never even make it to Blue.
@ Cooler? 100%. But the jump in power Goku would have to have had for SSJ4 to be on God Goku’s level is far beyond what we can see from Goku in GT at any point in the anime
Best way to view it is when Goku used these in the ToP against Jiren. SSG: Jiren was able to block everything with 1 finger SSB: Jiren now needs to use both his forearms to block yet he's still getting pushed around through rocks while doing so
Can you make a video about certain types of outsmarting “builds?” Builds that focus on FSIQ, Thinking, Reasoning (Lawliet). Builds that focus on EQ, SQ, Manipulation, Deception (Light), or builds that are hybrid (Koji). The main reason people have takes from Koji low diffing Light to Light mid diffing Koji is because they don’t know how certain types of outsmarting builds interact; fix that.
the reason i like super saiyan god as a better name is because it makes it sound like it is the god of all legendary super saiyans and that it is above a super saiyan
_Remember when Goku was fighting Jiren, when he transformed into super Saiyan God red form Jiren was able to block the hits with a finger, but when he became super Saiyan blue that’s when the fight truly engaged. I just wish they would do super Saiyan three with super Saiyan God._
Have you thought about making a Dragon Ball playlist for these videos? It would make it easier for people to find them instead having to scroll through the channel.
Just some slight corrections I noticed when watching The first is that there is a pretty massive difference between Ritual Super Saiyan God and normal Super Saiyan God Ritual Super Saiyan God has the self-healing and the time limit (due to having the life energy and ki of five other Saiyans, though Goku does just have healing powers in base anyway) normal Super Saiyan God has everything else Next, the main reason why it took him a while to get to full power in Battle of Gods is because he was getting used to that level of power the whole fight. The arc peaks with him getting a grasp on fully controlling the power for himself in one final push, because the entire time, his new level of strength is so incredibly high that he can hardly control it Final thing is that the Super Saiyan God powers aren't unique to Super Saiyan God; they just have a unique look because of the unique ki The only thing Goku really does in the form is trap someone's movements with ki, which Broly does immediately after (despite not having SSG) and Vegeta doesn't even use any unique abilities Other than that, great video, definitely gave a pretty great rundown
One way to think of it is similarly to the cell saga in which trunks going Super Saiyan Grade 2. SSG: Basically the Mastered Super Saiyan form in Cell Saga SSB: SSG Grade 2 We can think of it like that as vegeta does get SSB Evolution which is a "Better" form of SSB, drawing out more power and speed with the same cost of stamina, essentially a Super Saiyan 2 on top of SSG.
5:20 the reason why super Saiyan God could heal was just because of the ritual it wasn’t because Toriyama forgot it once Goku obtained got ki naturally the same spirit of the ritual that allowed him to heal wasn’t there.
looks like they're trying to steer clear of just doing ssj2 and ssj3 but for god form with the ultra instinct and ultra ego, which I think is pretty cool
Go through all this information just to come to conclusion that SSB > SSG, which is something everyone knew for years except for those few who thought red was faster than blue 🤦♂️
I think the god ki has great potential as a concept if done correctly One thing I don't like is how Vegeta apparently got the form " all on his own" by training, the ritual should be the only way to obtain such power ( as well as needing to be a powerful mortal before accession ) or hell at least had to be part of that ritual in so they had a power rub from it Another thing that would help the whole power scaling issuses in super aka how the Z fighters all of a sudden become exponentially more powerful for the tournament of power and the like would this power run all the Z fighters have personal relationship with Goku effectively now a god, having a personal relationship with a god could give if inspiration, kinda sort of explaining how Killian could spar with blue Goku and somehow not get straight bodied
Vegeta gaining god ki on his own is just wild and undermines ssg (this means u6 saiyans might also gain god forms if they train with their respective destroyers)
Debating super saiyan god and super saiyan blue is like debating super saiyan 1 and 2. Blue is literally the ascending form I would expect it to win. It’s 50x stronger so it’s winning regardless
It would've been cool if they made ssB weaker than ssG as the combination god and mortal ki with the mortal ki diluting the god ki makeing ssB weaker with them having to find a knew way to make ssG strong
Back when ssb was first announced/hinted at before we saw it in action a major part of the community thought it was going to be exactly like what you said a ssj just tapping into a bit of that god power, would of been way cooler tbh ssb blew the already crazy power scaling out of the water
I Love SSB , SSB was my SSJ 1 , it was my first Great Dragon Ball Transformation , SSB gived to me the Impact that SSJ 1 gave to Old Dragon Ball Fans , and it is make Sad that they did not made a Good Use of this Form ...
@ZangetsuGetsuga7 for me it was ui ( it self explanatory) but as for ssjb I really only start to like it recently after the top, broly movie and the Moro ark. It's mainly because they experimented more with the idea of using the right form at the right time.
Honestly, I wish that goku stayed in super saiyan god as base since he now possesses divine ki at constant. Kinda with how super saiyan was supposed to be the new base but that idea was thrown out
I don't think the healing ability is exclusive to super saiyan god, I think it is exclusive to the ritual form of super saiyan god. There are distinct differences between the super saiyan god that goku can tap into vs the one acquired through the ritual. Theres a good video on the differences between ritual and normal super saiyan god, you should take a look at that.
Ngl we all know blue claps it’s literally god with super saiyan but god has better ki control and he could make it stronger seen in the manga when he mixed god and ui
I kinda like ssblue due to its color and blue is my favorite color but the way it's handled it's disappointing Stamina issue of blue was introduced to dbs after ROF. Doesn't have any Ws against any main villains after ROF. Was used a lot more often.
he gets stabeed by rose and trashed in the tournament so much pretty sure he has gradual healing to get back up after being uninterrupted and focusing on it for a moment like in the water/ground etc, maybe thinking about it "I can't stay here I need to get back up" channels energy to it or something
I think SSB is better ngl, both forms look good but I think SSB has the better concept along with its details. SSB being SSJ combined with god ki and requiring a lot of control to use is pretty cool. Also it having a less intense aura and just being tranquil blue symbolizes the form's immense ki control.
I kinda like ssg because it was different then any other super sayian form, you can see the hair only change colour not the style and also it’s calm as compared to other sayian forms
If we talkin straight power output, it's Blue, since it's "technically" a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God. If we talking overall more effective and better portrayal overall? God, hands down.
I hate that Super Saiyan Blue was achieved offscreen. Imagine if in “Resurrection of F”, Vegeta and Goku arrive to deal with Freeza. Vegeta demonstrates Super Saiyan God, and has Freeza on the ropes, until Freeza reveals his Golden form. Then in order to defeat Freeza, they have to push themselves by managing to harness the power of super Saiyan into the god form, thus creating the new form. This is my head canon.
In my opinion, SSG should just be called Saiyan God since its a normal saiyan with god ki. I also like SSG more than SSB for a few reasons. One being that it looks cooler imo. The red base form hair is only seen in base and ultra instinct. The aura is unique and resembles actual fire as compared to just blue of SSB, and his eye look sick. Two being that SSB kinda stole the spotlight from SSG. It was hyped as a game-changing transformation that would be able to clash with the likes of Beerus, and a divine higher power. As soon as they learned to stack Super Saiyan on SSG, it became useless and is only ever used as a energy-efficient version of SSB like in TOP and the Broly movie. Really deserves more love imo
Great video analysis on The Saiyan God Forms. I wholeheartedly know, The Blue God Form is M.E.O. (Massively Exceedingly Overwhelmingly) Stronger than The Red God Form. In order for us to accurately scale The Saiyan God forms, we must confirm the multipliers of The Traditional Super Saiyan Forms first. Super Saiyan 50x Maximum Multiplier. Super Saiyan 2, 100x Maximum Multiplier. Super Saiyan 3, 150x Minimum Multiplier, 300x Maximum Multiplier. NOT 400x Multiplier. This may sound misleading, but i assure you it’s the truth. This must be understood to utmost degree!!! The Buu Arc, In DBZ The Manga, DBZ KAI Anime & DBS Anime & Manga it is Unanimously Stated, Proven, Understood & Accepted by The Z fighters That Goku is “The Strongest In The Universe.” A 400x Maximum Multiplier for SSJ3 form would mean Gotenks is Stronger than both Goku & Gohan, in that order. We all know that’s false. The story narrative for the Strongest to the weakest goes.. 1) Goku 2) Gohan 3) Gotenks 4) Vegeta. This is The Hierarchy in The Buu Arc & DBZ Movie 13 Wrath Of The Dragon. How is this possible when we all know Base Form Gotenks is Stronger than Base Form Goku? Gotenks is marginally Stronger than Goku, but Stronger nonetheless. I’ll ask the question again, how is it possible for Super Saiyan 3 Goku to be Stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, when Base Form Gotenks is technically Stronger than Base Form Goku? Super Saiyan 3 has a 150x Minimum Multiiplier. However, 300x is The Maximum Multiplier SSJ3 can achieve!!! How can I confidently say this do boldly? Bcuz I know somethin, that nobody else does. Goku is without a doubt The Strongest In The Universe during The Buu Arc. This is something a large number of fans agree upon. However if you would’ve asked the fans how this is possible, then this is where you will get an array of different answers. So we all agree on the answer, in math but nobody’s agreeing on how they got to the answer. Because everybody is missing one key piece to the puzzle. Many Gohan fans deny Goku as being The Strongest. Sum Gohan fans say that Gohan was Stronger, but Goku grew Stronger than thru a Zenkai Boost. Wait a min, these Gohan fans say Gohan is Stronger, then after it is proven that Goku is Stronger, they relent in sayin “Goku got Stronger than Gohan due to a Zenka Boost, or Goku receiving several Zenkai Boosts. Unfortunately that too is not true. What if I told you none of the Saiyans in The Buu Arc received any Zenkai Boosts? It’s true. They do get stronger, but that’s only by means of training to get stronger & not by fighting. This detailed info is the key to proving Goku as The Strongest In the Universe, as well as proving he is Stronger than Gohan, definitively!!! This is highlighted when Gohan was beaten by Super Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks Absorbed).. Dendè healed Gohan. Fusion Buu stated how Gohan’s power level has returned to normal, but he didn’t get any stronger. I.E. no Zenkai Boost. When Goku fought Fat Buu, he was Far Superior. He also stated that he would bring forth a fighter far stronger than himself. This must be a contradiction if Goku is indeed the strongest in the universe. No, not at all. Ya see when Goku fought Fat Buu he himself was heavily suppressed. Goku was heavily suppressed throughout the vast majority of the Buu Arc.. until he fought Kid Buu. Goku - 3,600,000,000. Super Saiyan Goku - 180,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 2 Goku - 360,000,000,000. Vegeta - 2,600,000,000. Super Saiyan Vegeta - 130,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta - 260,000,000,000. Majin Vegeta - 3,600,000,000. Super Saiyan Majin Vegeta - 180,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000,000. Gotenks - 4,000,000,000. Super Saiyan Gotenks - 200,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks - 600,000,000,000. Max Power Level!!! Super Saiyan 3 Goku - 540,000,000,000. Heavily Suppressed!!! As you can see.. Goku 3.6 Billion x 150 = 540 Billion. Gotenks 4 Billion x 150 = 600 Billion. Gotenks is stronger than Goku when both are using the minimum multiplier of the SSJ3. This is a heavily suppressed SSJ3 Goku, whom is weaker than an SSJ3 Gotenks 100%. Gotenks never surpassed Perfect Cell 225 in his SSJ form. It’s not until SSJ3, Gotenks finally surpassed SSJ2 Teen Gohan, The Benchmark of Power, in The Cell Arc. A hypothetical SSJ2 Gotenks would be Stronger than SSJ2 Teen Gohan 330 Billion, SSJ2 Goku 360 Billion & SSJ2 Majin Vegeta 360 Billion. Goku 3.6 Billion x 250 = 900 Billion. This is Goku at 100% Maximum Power Level. Neither Goku nor Gotenks has achieved the Max Multiplier. However, Goku ca achieve a higher multiplier than Gotenks, despite having a weaker base form. He is a Saiyan Adult, has had far more time and experience training in the form than Gotenks. Thus connecting why Goku can achieve a much higher multiplier. By the time of Battle of Gods, Goku has Mastered The SSJ3 Form, and can achieve The 300x Maximum Multiplier. Perfect Cell 225 Billion, Super Perfect Cell 260 Billion. Cell Jrs 75 Billion each are 1/3 Perfect Cell. SSJ Goku 3 Billion, SSJ Goku 150 Billion. SSJ Teen Gohan 3.3 Billion. SSJ Teen Gohan 165 Billion. SSJ2 Teen Gohan 330 Billion. The Super Saiyan God Multiplier is 800x Minimum Multiplier, 1,200x Maximum Multiplier. Super Saiyan Blue 1,200x Minimum Multiplier, 2,200x Maximum Multiplier. We know The Red God Form has a multiplier is far beyond fusion level power up. At bare minimum, The Blue God Form is far Stronger than the Red God Form. For anybody to think Blue is 50x Stronger than Red, is hopelessly naive. Especially when we all know Goku & Co have far surpassed SSJ Vegito by a huge margin. To emphasize on surpassing the type of fusion this level Vegito created.
The number goes even higher when goku in his "false" ssg form was confident he could fight beerus. The same goku who immediately denounced the idea of fusing even working altogether Ssg>"false" ssg>fp vegito
He wasnt confident at all, he was just excited because it open a new path to become stronger. He also didn't know how strong he was and what do you mean "false"
@@sc-1918 He was confident he could fight beerus I mean "false" ssg because it was the empowered state goku got before he completed the form Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito
@sc-1918 Goku immediately shuts down the idea of fusing even working He then gets this "false" ssg state and was ready to fight beerus had whis not mention him failing/ not attaining the ssg form
@@Zeno1781 "Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito" at the moment he couldnt sence god ki and like i said goku was excited to test his new power he further more confirm when he said "the a level i never expected to reach on my own" on his own.
I honestly don’t like the blue but it’s growing on me I just feel like it’s to much forms with crazy colors but I mean I guess we needed something fresh from original super saiyan
Since super saiyan blue is a super saiyan god going super saiyan, when are we gonna get super saiyan blue 2, where a super saiyan god goes super saiyan 2, and then 3 and a weird 4 transformation
all this confusion on power scaling and why an ability was never showcased again was all because they decided to make a continuation after Goku unlocked super saiyan god. It was supposed to end then and there but nope, they said “let’s keep going actually” and now it’s all weird.
If the battle goes on for long, I'd say that God gives the advantage in a fight against an opponent of roughly the same strength due to it's passive recovery in terms of stamina, though if the forms are against each other, Blue wins easy
The multiplication is kinda nuts, if blue is a 50x multiplier over the minimum multiplier of x20.000 of god that would mean blue is a 1 million x multiplier? meaning farmer with a shotgun suddenly goes to dominating frieza's first 3 forms lel
I like SSG design more than SSB. SSB is just Super Saiyan but blue. SSG keeps their original hair but makes them thinner and turns their hair red. It is visually more unique. It is also why Ultra Instinct is so cool, because it has a unique visual that's not just trying to copy Super Saiyan again.
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ssg its more like having fun with alot of abilities
ssb all about fighting and winning
I really don't like that Red Super Saiyan is called Super Saiyan God instead of Saiyan God, as it's basically god ki+base form. I would wish Super Saiyan Blue to be called Super Saiyan God instead of the red one.
I've been thinking the same thing for a while. Problem is that SSB was not thought of when SSG came about.
One of the downsides of Akira's more off the cuff writing style.
Would have been great if Dragon Ball Super retconned the names.
But it may have just made things confusing.
I don’t like this either, but it’s worth noting that SSJB isn’t actually SSJB, it’s just a shortened name made by Goku, Vegeta and Whis because it originally was a tongue twister. The actual name is of course SSJGSSJ or SSGSS, which makes sense as there’s two SSJs in it.
@@nivnavion Yes, we know.
And while it makes sense. Having it be Saiyan God then Super Saiyan God still makes a lot more sense.
@@link1565V2 More like someone high up at toei shoehorned for blue/a new transformation to sell more toys. Ssb was a mistake & hopefully Toyo can fully drop the form out of the manga once it returns.
@@dokkaner5934 it wasn't a mistake, but it was introduced far too soon.
NGL Super Saiyan God looks more interesting than Super saiyan Blue at least design wise
A very popular opinion my friend.
I think at least 3/4 of the fandom believes this.
Thats basically saying I like the color red more than the color blue. It's basically a preference of which color you like more ATP💀
@@Shorts-wb4hqNo it isn't, SSJG has a multitude of differences to base, SSJ and SSJB. I can, of the top of my head, name 7, one for each dragon ball.
1. SSJG is the first canonical transformation to ever have a different aura colour to hair colour
2. SSJG is the first transformation in canon and non-canon to have a texture in the aura in the burning inferno it is
3. SSJG makes Goku look leaner
4. SSJG makes Goku look younger
5. SSJG is the first transformation to increase clothes and skin saturation rather than merely brightening it and yet remains the only one to do so.
6. SSJG is the first and still only transformation where the hair colour has a colour gradient: red-pink and arguably only if light is not a factor.
7. It's also the first transformation to keep the base form hair.
SSJB has none of this and is just a lazy recolour of SSJ.
Eh. I would’ve preferred if only Vegeta got blue and it was equal to God and they both mastered it but that’s just my opinion.
Super saiyan god should’ve been called “Saiyan god” and super saiyan blue would be “SUPER Saiyan god”
Nope think about it 6 saiyans combined power to become a god version what you going to call it Saiyan pretend god by 5 other powers of other saiyans 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Samantha23478no he’s saying that because ssjg is just base with base then just call it sjg
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Yap
Yep. The problem is, tecnically goku and vegeta already have god ki on base, so the name would be confusing
They had not achieve god ki get
ssg is forgotten but it is a cool form that lasted very little until ssb came along
Wow good to know
It’s not forgotten. It was used in the Moro arc as well as the survivor arc and the broly arc too
And in the Manga it's gotten a decent deal of usage
It’s used in the tournament of power also
@@BucketWasTakenTwiceyeah the manga utilize SSJ God more, especially on the earlier arc where Super Saiyan Blue was still "Unstable". I remember in the U7 vs U6 arc Goku only use SSJ Blue in short bursts switching back and forth with SSJ God while attacking when fighting Hit instead of straight up transforming into Blue the whole fight.
It's also nice to see that Super Broly movie thankfully utilized the red form a decent amount (granted, Broly did beat the crap out of Goku) before Goku goes to Blue.
Man it sucked that SSG was only out for a little before blue took over. 😢
Different forms should be used for different reasons rather than just powering into the strongest form
True. SSGJ is almost a technique, where you simply alter your ki to be divine filled. Almost making it a fluid form like MUI, compared to SSGSSJ which is like SSJ in that it is a straight power reach, powerhouse form. It makes sense why Goku and Vegeta both went SSGJ against Broly, yet they went straight to SSGSS for Jiren. Jiren is such a controlled and fluid fighter that the only way to beat him would be raw power, like we saw with Goku and Frieza (other than mui but that is obviously too strong too). Whereas with Broly, Goku and Vegeta recognize his power and non controllable style, realizing it makes no sense to go blue kiaoken or evolution because they cant go past Broly with power unless they SERIOUSLY surpass him due to his never ending power rising constantly. Gogeta Blue was miles ahead so that was the answer. Clearly, they knew as individuals it would require finess to beat him. Which explains maybe why Goku almost went MUI while powering up. He may have been trying to tap into it to out finesse Broly, but he realized he couldnt transform mid power up so he settled for blue to try and cook.)@@saintreem
@@saintreemand I think what I said has context clues like the hair being in a relaxed state only during base, ssgj, and mui, and maybe even kiaoken. Implying these are simply techniques with different purposes. Whereas any form that required ssj ability his hair stands up as a clear indicator of a massive inward surge of power in his saiyan cells.
I personally think they should never have done SSB.
Having SSG fighting Freeza would still be a cool reveal ( _"Oh Cool! Goku has learned to use SSG at will"_ )
And then having Vegeta do it as well, would still have been Hype.
@@thewheyoflife3548 mui was the animators messing around with colour schemes, he wasnt TRYING to go MUI
The healing abilities of SSG never appeared in the movie nor the manga, which means that it's just an anime exclusive thing
I'm pretty sure it shows up in Xenoverse 2 as well with ssg Goku having a slight passive heal
Its implied in the manga. Goku can use ki to heal himself. And he can survive deadly wounds long enough to eat a senzu bean.
@@nuclearwaste2062Dende has been laughing at that bs "ability" since Frieza saga 😂
Nature Goku can heal things
It didn't even stay in the ankme either. Goku never used SSG to heal in the anime ever again.
If I'm being Fr with you... SSGSSB is 50x stronger than SSG but it literally doesn't feel that way, in the anime and manga it just feels like a 10x multiplier at most
It Does In Manga.😅
No it’s not THAT much stronger. Did u just make up head canon?
@@michaelmamba1578 It Was Literaly Stated That SSGSSB Is A A Super Saiyan Form Which Has × 50 Multiplier + Super Saiyan God Form Which Has × 20,000 Multiplier Which Is = × 1,000,000 Multiplier.
@@DarthHide1234 you might wanna go and rewatch that cuz ik what ur referring to and he says “this is a super saiyan form of a saiyan who has the powers of a super saiyan god”, ie a super saiyan with god ki but because db goofies want to see the highest power level they ALWAYS assume the highest jump possible. If they meant a 50x multiplier wouldn’t they have just said that? I mean ultimately it’s up to interpretation cuz we technically don’t have a correct answer(even tho some speculations make more sense considering that ssg was better in some situations, but yes blue is overall stronger) but it makes more sense that’s it’s NOT a 50x multiplier just like an ssj3 is only 4 times stronger than ssj2🤷♂️
@@DarthHide1234 and it wasn’t “literaly” stated lmao u just thought. Also why can’t it be base x50 then the god multiplier kicks in. Properties of multiplication. You might wanna learn them
slight correction at 6:18, its not that gokus super saiyan god was stronger than vegetas blue, as stated by whis vegeta used it to much in one day and due to the energy drain of Blue vegeta wasnt able to use any more than 10 percent of its power, not because his blue is inheirently weaker than gokus god form, but just that his energy had been exhausted, but since goku hadnt used blue yet, his energy wasnt exhausted so god was more than enough to deal with hit, had vegeta not wanted to show off his strength and superiority of the blue form he could have also dealt with hit in god with relative ease, hope that clears things up
He was not able to use 1/100 of his true power
@breu5747 no, it was literally said by whis he can't even use 10% of his power, given the fact that we aren't told a number less than that the weakest we can put him at is 1/10th of his power, about 10 percent or slightly less
@@animefanatic787finally,i thought i was the only nerd about this...😅
@@animefanatic787 So SSG is stronger than 10% SSB? which means SSB is 10x times multiplier for SSG at best, not 50x.
Yes gokus God was stronger than vegetas weakened blue, no the multiplier isn't less than 50x god, would the information conflict with itself, yes, bit those are the facts of the series, yes it seems contradictory but it is what it is
The word stamina was kicking your ass
STANIMA
@@Kunal-jy7ik?
@@TheeGoatPrime 10:05
@@Kunal-jy7ik I don't get how people say stanima but hey everyone has their issues
Also he said "tourmanent" instead of tournament as well. Not too big of a deal, but it was noticeable
Video idea
Why Krillin's hairline was way better than Goku's....
Cap
@@saadsami8860 Krillin's hairline is definitely better than Vegeta's hairline
@@PhillipRubio578 what hairline
@@PhillipRubio578I think you mean Vegeta's McDonald's sponsor
@@FakerSilverYT widows peak
man let me say the editing in your video is quite pleasant, it creats a nice atmosphere to watch i enjoy it. like👍
that was a very interesting video, can you maka a video about vegeta's ssb evo? maybe in comparison with normal ssb or goku's ssb kaioken or even talking about vegeta's eyes an what they have to do with ssb... because your videos are amazing (especially dragon balls video or at least for me)
Which is stronger? Base form or Mastered Ultra Instinct?
Funny, but = stats, what is MORE effective. That's the question
@AventSir Depends, Ssjg was far less draining, but when Goku and Vegeta perfected Ssjb, it became a lot better by far. But even with regular ssjb, I'd still say it's so much stronger where it might balance out the disadvantages with the ki drain. But the most effective way would just be to go blue on impact, but the rest of the battle maintain ssjg, just like they did in the Goku Black arc.
For a video with such an obvious answer I'm surprised there was still so much interesting information here
I haven't watched dragon ball. But for some reason, videos like these keep popping up in my feed and now Im invested in the lore.
Watch Dragon Ball super I recommend you it amazing.👌
Great video bro, 1 of the best explanations so far..
5:20 it's theorized this happaned causs the saiyan spirit, the saiyan that first achived Super Saiyan died with regret, their soul wandered the universe with the Saiyan God prophechy, once goku performed the ritual, the saiyan soul was summoned and gave goku god Ki
That's why in the fight Goku Himself even stated a voice in his head guided him on how to use God Ki effectively
1.000X multiplier over base form seems pretty insane. By now his base form is stronger than SSJ in Namek.
This would make SSG hundreds of times star-buster level.
9:31 No matter how many explainations I get, it would have made way more sense for the red form to be called "Sayian God" and the blue form to be "Super Sayian God". The one exception is that it took Super Sayians to come together to make it. So it would be odd that super sayians would produce a regular sayian power. But we can ignore that if we considered that it was their power combining that made the transformation and not their type of power. Just the amount. As he stated in the video, the red for is diffferent from the blue form, hes skinnier, sort of uniquely adjusted. Where as the blue form is literally just the blonde form but with blue color visually.
Finally someone who uses the correct abbreviations!
3:45 and that’s why they call him the drink
I'd say if he's in for a long fight its better to go with ssg or do what vegeta did and keep switching. In a short fight however turning blue and pulling out the ki belt is far better.
Your editing is really lovely! This video was very enjoyable to watch with your narration and the great editing ^_^
Ssg being practically useless is a joke
I loved that form so much back then and I always used to wait for another appearance in that form,Guess I'm not the only one
Great video! You actually know what you’re talking about and your video has great presentation! Your voice is very easy to listen to. You sound like vaatividya! Keep this up and you’ll be big! Easy sub :)
I really like the concept... Super sayian blue is super saiyan god tapping into super sayian
Oh my fricking SSG😭
Meh ssj4 gogeta >
@@paulgilbert3139overrated monkey, but i respect your opinion.
@@paulgilbert3139no
Lmfao 😂
@@cheefcuts stop cursing its a sin.
Yeah, 6:18 was a pretty big miss tbh.
You even showed the panel where Whis explained why Goku was stronger than Vegeta in the Hit fight and still glossed over it, painting a narrative that Goku had better mastery over the form when that wasn't the reason for his better performance at all.
he really didn't pay attention to the Manga Version of that event
Yeah wasn’t it because Vegeta had went blue against Cabba to “show off” so when he entered the form again he was only able to use like 10% of his actual strength?
8:35 is why I think the argument of SSj4 vs Blue is ridiculous. SSjG would already be a higher multiplier then SSj4 is, he’d never even make it to Blue.
no way to really know and we'll never know
since SSJ4 is not cannon but 4 is way cooler than God or Blue.
@ Cooler? 100%. But the jump in power Goku would have to have had for SSJ4 to be on God Goku’s level is far beyond what we can see from Goku in GT at any point in the anime
Best way to view it is when Goku used these in the ToP against Jiren.
SSG: Jiren was able to block everything with 1 finger
SSB: Jiren now needs to use both his forearms to block yet he's still getting pushed around through rocks while doing so
I see you agree with my SSG theory 😊
I love the DBZ tracks in the background 🎶🎶🎶
Can you make a video about certain types of outsmarting “builds?” Builds that focus on FSIQ, Thinking, Reasoning (Lawliet). Builds that focus on EQ, SQ, Manipulation, Deception (Light), or builds that are hybrid (Koji).
The main reason people have takes from Koji low diffing Light to Light mid diffing Koji is because they don’t know how certain types of outsmarting builds interact; fix that.
This would be a goated vid ngl
avent u gotta make this vid
the reason i like super saiyan god as a better name is because it makes it sound like it is the god of all legendary super saiyans and that it is above a super saiyan
_Remember when Goku was fighting Jiren, when he transformed into super Saiyan God red form Jiren was able to block the hits with a finger, but when he became super Saiyan blue that’s when the fight truly engaged. I just wish they would do super Saiyan three with super Saiyan God._
Have you thought about making a Dragon Ball playlist for these videos? It would make it easier for people to find them instead having to scroll through the channel.
Just some slight corrections I noticed when watching
The first is that there is a pretty massive difference between Ritual Super Saiyan God and normal Super Saiyan God
Ritual Super Saiyan God has the self-healing and the time limit (due to having the life energy and ki of five other Saiyans, though Goku does just have healing powers in base anyway)
normal Super Saiyan God has everything else
Next, the main reason why it took him a while to get to full power in Battle of Gods is because he was getting used to that level of power the whole fight. The arc peaks with him getting a grasp on fully controlling the power for himself in one final push, because the entire time, his new level of strength is so incredibly high that he can hardly control it
Final thing is that the Super Saiyan God powers aren't unique to Super Saiyan God; they just have a unique look because of the unique ki
The only thing Goku really does in the form is trap someone's movements with ki, which Broly does immediately after (despite not having SSG) and Vegeta doesn't even use any unique abilities
Other than that, great video, definitely gave a pretty great rundown
One way to think of it is similarly to the cell saga in which trunks going Super Saiyan Grade 2.
SSG: Basically the Mastered Super Saiyan form in Cell Saga
SSB: SSG Grade 2
We can think of it like that as vegeta does get SSB Evolution which is a "Better" form of SSB, drawing out more power and speed with the same cost of stamina, essentially a Super Saiyan 2 on top of SSG.
Great video!
OOH some DB Power Scaling We Ready
We early
CHUCK!!!!!!!
Who wins goku or saitama
@@averaging-sm7yf goku lol
Editing of this video is god level
5:20 the reason why super Saiyan God could heal was just because of the ritual it wasn’t because Toriyama forgot it once Goku obtained got ki naturally the same spirit of the ritual that allowed him to heal wasn’t there.
please do a video about frieza, how strong all his forms are etc :D
Bro said stanima 😂 good video 10:04
He also did in the outro at 11:28 😂
I think SSBE should’ve been the original design for SSB. A lot of people think it’s ugly but I think the aura is too much.
Ssbe would not look very good on Goku, and also its way too muscular to be the regular variant.
Thanks For this 🔥🔥🔥🔥
looks like they're trying to steer clear of just doing ssj2 and ssj3 but for god form with the ultra instinct and ultra ego, which I think is pretty cool
Go through all this information just to come to conclusion that SSB > SSG, which is something everyone knew for years except for those few who thought red was faster than blue 🤦♂️
I think the god ki has great potential as a concept if done correctly
One thing I don't like is how Vegeta apparently got the form " all on his own" by training, the ritual should be the only way to obtain such power ( as well as needing to be a powerful mortal before accession ) or hell at least had to be part of that ritual in so they had a power rub from it
Another thing that would help the whole power scaling issuses in super aka how the Z fighters all of a sudden become exponentially more powerful for the tournament of power and the like would this power run all the Z fighters have personal relationship with Goku effectively now a god, having a personal relationship with a god could give if inspiration, kinda sort of explaining how Killian could spar with blue Goku and somehow not get straight bodied
Vegeta gaining god ki on his own is just wild and undermines ssg (this means u6 saiyans might also gain god forms if they train with their respective destroyers)
0:24 - 0:34 is cool ngl.
New video in the late night.
10:04 It chips away at your stanima
I have like a head cannon that when goku and vegeta become complete masters of god ki theyre constantly in their god forms
5:22 Against Goku Black and Zamasu in the Future Trunks saga, when Goku finds out that Black and Zamasu killed Chi Chi and Goten.
I’ve always been heavily biased towards blue because blue is my favorite color
6:40 I was gonna mention this
Debating super saiyan god and super saiyan blue is like debating super saiyan 1 and 2. Blue is literally the ascending form I would expect it to win. It’s 50x stronger so it’s winning regardless
I didn’t even think that this topic was debatable anymore. It’s like pitting base Goku against Super Saiyan Goku.
It would've been cool if they made ssB weaker than ssG as the combination god and mortal ki with the mortal ki diluting the god ki makeing ssB weaker with them having to find a knew way to make ssG strong
Back when ssb was first announced/hinted at before we saw it in action a major part of the community thought it was going to be exactly like what you said a ssj just tapping into a bit of that god power, would of been way cooler tbh ssb blew the already crazy power scaling out of the water
I Love SSB , SSB was my SSJ 1 , it was my first Great Dragon Ball Transformation , SSB gived to me the Impact that SSJ 1 gave to Old Dragon Ball Fans , and it is make Sad that they did not made a Good Use of this Form ...
Goku 1st time going SS1 was so legendary...I still get goosebumps every time I watch it
I don't know what you mean, shit was used in every arc
@@uglovasgamingthey monologue instead keep fighting 90% of the story right?
@ZangetsuGetsuga7 for me it was ui ( it self explanatory) but as for ssjb I really only start to like it recently after the top, broly movie and the Moro ark. It's mainly because they experimented more with the idea of using the right form at the right time.
Are you saying you haven’t watched the events of dragon ball before super?
Honestly, I wish that goku stayed in super saiyan god as base since he now possesses divine ki at constant. Kinda with how super saiyan was supposed to be the new base but that idea was thrown out
Yeah I believe they also state in the anime SSG was faster then Blue which is why Goku would swap between Red and Blue briefly just to attack
Please can you make a video about rimuru(LN) vs anos(LN).
thats actually interesting
I forgot most of anos powers.
Rimuru likely spanks
The fact that Goku went blue aura before getting that red form was very telling 😮
i like ssg design more but i like gokus face design and the ki because he looks more serious and a man
THE EDITING 👏
I don't think the healing ability is exclusive to super saiyan god, I think it is exclusive to the ritual form of super saiyan god. There are distinct differences between the super saiyan god that goku can tap into vs the one acquired through the ritual. Theres a good video on the differences between ritual and normal super saiyan god, you should take a look at that.
Ngl we all know blue claps it’s literally god with super saiyan but god has better ki control and he could make it stronger seen in the manga when he mixed god and ui
I kinda like ssblue due to its color and blue is my favorite color but the way it's handled it's disappointing
Stamina issue of blue was introduced to dbs after ROF.
Doesn't have any Ws against any main villains after ROF.
Was used a lot more often.
he gets stabeed by rose and trashed in the tournament so much pretty sure he has gradual healing to get back up after being uninterrupted and focusing on it for a moment like in the water/ground etc, maybe thinking about it "I can't stay here I need to get back up" channels energy to it or something
i wish we got to see a blue 2 or a blue 3, kaioken is cool too though.
Bro its like comparing a base form and super saiyan
7:38 aura assists vegeta? how and ssg grade 4? So what’s grade 1,2,and 3?
IMO they should have switched the colors. Make ss god blue, with a calm sky blue aura, and the next firm fiery red.
I think SSB is better ngl, both forms look good but I think SSB has the better concept along with its details. SSB being SSJ combined with god ki and requiring a lot of control to use is pretty cool. Also it having a less intense aura and just being tranquil blue symbolizes the form's immense ki control.
I kinda like ssg because it was different then any other super sayian form, you can see the hair only change colour not the style and also it’s calm as compared to other sayian forms
gotta admit ssjb in the thumbnail looks so clean
Well it was From the Broly Movie with that Awesome Animation and Artstyle
If we talkin straight power output, it's Blue, since it's "technically" a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God. If we talking overall more effective and better portrayal overall? God, hands down.
I hate that Super Saiyan Blue was achieved offscreen.
Imagine if in “Resurrection of F”, Vegeta and Goku arrive to deal with Freeza. Vegeta demonstrates Super Saiyan God, and has Freeza on the ropes, until Freeza reveals his Golden form.
Then in order to defeat Freeza, they have to push themselves by managing to harness the power of super Saiyan into the god form, thus creating the new form.
This is my head canon.
In my opinion, SSG should just be called Saiyan God since its a normal saiyan with god ki. I also like SSG more than SSB for a few reasons. One being that it looks cooler imo. The red base form hair is only seen in base and ultra instinct. The aura is unique and resembles actual fire as compared to just blue of SSB, and his eye look sick. Two being that SSB kinda stole the spotlight from SSG. It was hyped as a game-changing transformation that would be able to clash with the likes of Beerus, and a divine higher power. As soon as they learned to stack Super Saiyan on SSG, it became useless and is only ever used as a energy-efficient version of SSB like in TOP and the Broly movie. Really deserves more love imo
The self healing is referenced in the Granola arc
Great video analysis on The Saiyan God Forms. I wholeheartedly know, The Blue God Form is M.E.O. (Massively Exceedingly Overwhelmingly) Stronger than The Red God Form.
In order for us to accurately scale The Saiyan God forms, we must confirm the multipliers of The Traditional Super Saiyan Forms first.
Super Saiyan 50x Maximum Multiplier.
Super Saiyan 2, 100x Maximum Multiplier.
Super Saiyan 3, 150x Minimum Multiplier, 300x Maximum Multiplier. NOT 400x Multiplier.
This may sound misleading, but i assure you it’s the truth. This must be understood to utmost degree!!! The Buu Arc, In DBZ The Manga, DBZ KAI Anime & DBS Anime & Manga it is Unanimously Stated, Proven, Understood & Accepted by The Z fighters That Goku is “The Strongest In The Universe.” A 400x Maximum Multiplier for SSJ3 form would mean Gotenks is Stronger than both Goku & Gohan, in that order. We all know that’s false. The story narrative for the Strongest to the weakest goes.. 1) Goku 2) Gohan 3) Gotenks 4) Vegeta. This is The Hierarchy in The Buu Arc & DBZ Movie 13 Wrath Of The Dragon.
How is this possible when we all know Base Form Gotenks is Stronger than Base Form Goku? Gotenks is marginally Stronger than Goku, but Stronger nonetheless. I’ll ask the question again, how is it possible for Super Saiyan 3 Goku to be Stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks, when Base Form Gotenks is technically Stronger than Base Form Goku?
Super Saiyan 3 has a 150x Minimum Multiiplier. However, 300x is The Maximum Multiplier SSJ3 can achieve!!! How can I confidently say this do boldly? Bcuz I know somethin, that nobody else does.
Goku is without a doubt The Strongest In The Universe during The Buu Arc. This is something a large number of fans agree upon. However if you would’ve asked the fans how this is possible, then this is where you will get an array of different answers. So we all agree on the answer, in math but nobody’s agreeing on how they got to the answer. Because everybody is missing one key piece to the puzzle.
Many Gohan fans deny Goku as being The Strongest. Sum Gohan fans say that Gohan was Stronger, but Goku grew Stronger than thru a Zenkai Boost. Wait a min, these Gohan fans say Gohan is Stronger, then after it is proven that Goku is Stronger, they relent in sayin “Goku got Stronger than Gohan due to a Zenka Boost, or Goku receiving several Zenkai Boosts.
Unfortunately that too is not true. What if I told you none of the Saiyans in The Buu Arc received any Zenkai Boosts? It’s true. They do get stronger, but that’s only by means of training to get stronger & not by fighting. This detailed info is the key to proving Goku as The Strongest In the Universe, as well as proving he is Stronger than Gohan, definitively!!! This is highlighted when Gohan was beaten by Super Buu (SSJ3 Gotenks Absorbed).. Dendè healed Gohan. Fusion Buu stated how Gohan’s power level has returned to normal, but he didn’t get any stronger. I.E. no Zenkai Boost.
When Goku fought Fat Buu, he was Far Superior. He also stated that he would bring forth a fighter far stronger than himself. This must be a contradiction if Goku is indeed the strongest in the universe. No, not at all. Ya see when Goku fought Fat Buu he himself was heavily suppressed. Goku was heavily suppressed throughout the vast majority of the Buu Arc.. until he fought Kid Buu.
Goku - 3,600,000,000. Super Saiyan Goku - 180,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 2 Goku - 360,000,000,000. Vegeta - 2,600,000,000. Super Saiyan Vegeta - 130,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta - 260,000,000,000. Majin Vegeta - 3,600,000,000. Super Saiyan Majin Vegeta - 180,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta - 360,000,000,000.
Gotenks - 4,000,000,000. Super Saiyan Gotenks - 200,000,000,000. Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks - 600,000,000,000. Max Power Level!!! Super Saiyan 3 Goku - 540,000,000,000. Heavily Suppressed!!!
As you can see.. Goku 3.6 Billion x 150 = 540 Billion. Gotenks 4 Billion x 150 = 600 Billion. Gotenks is stronger than Goku when both are using the minimum multiplier of the SSJ3. This is a heavily suppressed SSJ3 Goku, whom is weaker than an SSJ3 Gotenks 100%. Gotenks never surpassed Perfect Cell 225 in his SSJ form. It’s not until SSJ3, Gotenks finally surpassed SSJ2 Teen Gohan, The Benchmark of Power, in The Cell Arc. A hypothetical SSJ2 Gotenks would be Stronger than SSJ2 Teen Gohan 330 Billion, SSJ2 Goku 360 Billion & SSJ2 Majin Vegeta 360 Billion.
Goku 3.6 Billion x 250 = 900 Billion. This is Goku at 100% Maximum Power Level. Neither Goku nor Gotenks has achieved the Max Multiplier. However, Goku ca achieve a higher multiplier than Gotenks, despite having a weaker base form. He is a Saiyan Adult, has had far more time and experience training in the form than Gotenks. Thus connecting why Goku can achieve a much higher multiplier.
By the time of Battle of Gods, Goku has Mastered The SSJ3 Form, and can achieve The 300x Maximum Multiplier.
Perfect Cell 225 Billion, Super Perfect Cell 260 Billion. Cell Jrs 75 Billion each are 1/3 Perfect Cell. SSJ Goku 3 Billion, SSJ Goku 150 Billion. SSJ Teen Gohan 3.3 Billion. SSJ Teen Gohan 165 Billion. SSJ2 Teen Gohan 330 Billion.
The Super Saiyan God Multiplier is 800x Minimum Multiplier, 1,200x Maximum Multiplier.
Super Saiyan Blue 1,200x Minimum Multiplier, 2,200x Maximum Multiplier.
We know The Red God Form has a multiplier is far beyond fusion level power up. At bare minimum, The Blue God Form is far Stronger than the Red God Form. For anybody to think Blue is 50x Stronger than Red, is hopelessly naive. Especially when we all know Goku & Co have far surpassed SSJ Vegito by a huge margin. To emphasize on surpassing the type of fusion this level Vegito created.
The number goes even higher when goku in his "false" ssg form was confident he could fight beerus.
The same goku who immediately denounced the idea of fusing even working altogether
Ssg>"false" ssg>fp vegito
He wasnt confident at all, he was just excited because it open a new path to become stronger. He also didn't know how strong he was and what do you mean "false"
@@sc-1918
He was confident he could fight beerus
I mean "false" ssg because it was the empowered state goku got before he completed the form
Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito
@sc-1918
Goku immediately shuts down the idea of fusing even working
He then gets this "false" ssg state and was ready to fight beerus had whis not mention him failing/ not attaining the ssg form
@@Zeno1781 "Vegeta even notes the ki as the greatest ki he ever felt, vegeta is 50% vegito" at the moment he couldnt sence god ki and like i said goku was excited to test his new power he further more confirm when he said "the a level i never expected to reach on my own" on his own.
@sc-1918 the form that goku underwent from only 4 saiyans 💀
Vigor courage and mind, sounds a lot like the triforce: strength, courage, wisdom
I would has ben cool with SSB but we needed way more time and buffs for SSG way before they even thought of SSB
I honestly don’t like the blue but it’s growing on me I just feel like it’s to much forms with crazy colors but I mean I guess we needed something fresh from original super saiyan
What a hit 🎯🎯🎯
Since super saiyan blue is a super saiyan god going super saiyan, when are we gonna get super saiyan blue 2, where a super saiyan god goes super saiyan 2, and then 3 and a weird 4 transformation
all this confusion on power scaling and why an ability was never showcased again was all because they decided to make a continuation after Goku unlocked super saiyan god. It was supposed to end then and there but nope, they said “let’s keep going actually” and now it’s all weird.
In the anime at the top doesn't whis say going blue takes up an enormous amount of energy? Which is why that one guy almost knocked him out
If the battle goes on for long, I'd say that God gives the advantage in a fight against an opponent of roughly the same strength due to it's passive recovery in terms of stamina, though if the forms are against each other, Blue wins easy
10:06 did bro say stanima😭😭
The multiplication is kinda nuts, if blue is a 50x multiplier over the minimum multiplier of x20.000 of god that would mean blue is a 1 million x multiplier? meaning farmer with a shotgun suddenly goes to dominating frieza's first 3 forms lel
The amount of times homie said “stanima” instead of stamina
I like SSG design more than SSB. SSB is just Super Saiyan but blue. SSG keeps their original hair but makes them thinner and turns their hair red. It is visually more unique. It is also why Ultra Instinct is so cool, because it has a unique visual that's not just trying to copy Super Saiyan again.
I always wondered ssg has a massive heal ability like buu except it’s fire 🔥 that would make that form pretty over powered in my opinion