Is the Super Nintendo the Greatest Console Ever? - Retro Bird
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- It's impossible to have everyone agree on what the best console is, but in this video I'm going to make the case for the Super Nintendo!
Is the Super Nintendo the Greatest Console Ever Made / Created ? - Retro Bird / Is the Super Nintendo the Best Console of All Time?
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Games played: Mega Man X (0:00), Kirby Super Star (0:25), Donkey Kong Country 2 (0:35), Contra III (0:50), Super Metroid (1:55), ActRaiser (3:25), Demon's Crest (4:10)
Most excellent video R.B. thank you for the time and effort it took to make and edit this video. P.s. SUPER NINTENDO RULES (even the purple parts...as a matter of fact, don't take my purple parts. It would be hard to turn off and on or reset or even play the games themselves without the purple parts...) PURPLE!
I can't find anything wrong with any of the games you chose to show gameplay of but I can still find everything to complain about due to the games you left out.
ActRaiser was such an underrated game.
Loving the timestamps incase I wanna check out the classics
I was definitely about to ask! 😂
The 16-bit era embodied a special kind of magic that has yet to be repeated.
Maybe that's why I have no interest in 8-bit style indy games? I had a SNES growing up.
Never thought about that until now.
I grew up with the Sega Genesis, but I can appreciate the SNES.
Similarly, I grew up with my SNES but I can’t deny how dope the Genesis was and was eager to play one with any chance I got!
me too.
I had both though my Genesis was short lived bc of my step sis destroying it. But i spent more time on the genesis than i did on the snes
You couldn't really go wrong with either. I had a SNES, but there was plenty of great stuff on the Genesis.
Describes me exactly too.
A little off topic, but I teach high school and the last few years I’ve brought in my SNES Classic on the last day of school. Kids love playing Contra 3, Street Fighter II Turbo, and Super Punch Out. Many have never played these games and are immediately hooked by how much fun they are.
You're doing the right thing - keep up the good work!
You need to ROM that thing. Imagine how much gaming you could introduce them kids into!
I absolutely love this. Thank you for getting the younger generations excited about these games!
The super Nintendo is so good that crack would be less addictive lol
You're an awesome teacher! That is seriously cool.
I think the generation the SNES is attached to is one of the greatest generations. I think Genesis (and every addon) and the SNES defined gaming going forward. Those 2D, 16-bit graphics are beautiful, and being able to go to an arcade was exciting.
2D graphics are amazing. And 2D graphics age very well, so it doesn’t matter how much time has passed, they’re still beautiful to look at.
@@themailman3331 PERIOD
turbografx16 >
@@ianswift3521 If you say so
@@ianswift3521 the TG16 was a noble effort and is the 3rd giant in the 2d golden age of gaming. but it barely put up a fight against the Genesis (and was blown away by later Genesis releases), it could never hold a candle to the SNES.
The SNES/SFC and the Genesis/Megadrive were unique and special, and made each other better.
SNES is legendary.
as are the Sega Dreamcast and Mega Drive
Super Nintendo will always be my all-time favorite cause it's the first system my family owned. Still remember coming home from school and seeing my mom in the living room playing Super Mario World after she constantly told us she would never buy any video games. I'm still going back and enjoying the games I missed out on and overlooked when I was a kid.
It's worth remembering that the SNES's biggest rival, the Genesis (Megadrive), came out well over a year before the SNES, during a time of great technical innovation, and it still held it's own against Nintendo's juggernaut.
In some ways, I think that's even more apt for the PC Engine, which really was the first system to make that jump. It even did CD console gaming first too. Both SNES and Genesis were really just next obvious steps from the PC Engine in most ways. The Genesis certainly so, at it simply increased most of the same specs a bit and went with that (more sprites, more backgrounds, one more button, etc. But less colours). SNES introduced some very novel things like proper transparency, Mode 7, and its truly defining controller, but was ultimately just following the lead of the other two systems too when all is said and done (more sprites, more backgrounds, etc). So, yeah, even as a SNES fan first, I think I'd like to give PC Engine the credit it's due there for truly starting the best generation in console gaming imo.
Just over 2 years for the North American release actually
@@joeyjo-joshabadu9636 "well over a year" could also be "just over two years" 🤣 although your comment makes the genesis even more impressive. 👍
@@FatNorthernBigot Yeah, it certainly held its own technically in many ways. And it ultimately competed pretty much on a level playing field in America and ended up selling in very similar numbers, both in part because of solid hardware and also Sega's hardcore marketing too. It was a similar story in Europe and "other" territories also. Although, obviously, in Japan the SNES really stood on its own there.
And I still think the PC Engine deserves a nod there too, as it came out long before the SNES and about a year before Genesis, and yet managed to output more colours on-screen than both, is capable of superior DMA than both [from what I'm told], and even has a faster CPU than that SNES and on par with the Genesis. That's dang impressive for an "8-bit" console. It certainly blew away the likes of the NES and Master System by a long ways when it launched. And it's remarkable how well it stands toe to toe with those two other giants at times. It even outsold the Genesis in Japan, although was a bit of flop elsewhere.
The Neo Geo deserves a mention too, but that was a whole other beast. Still, I give it acknowledgement. :)
I'd say in terms of system capabilities it would go like this: Neo Geo > SNES Genesis > PC Engine.
In terms of libraries, based on quality plus number of games, it would go like this: SNES ≈> Genesis > PC Engine
And in terms of hardware sales it would go like this: SNES > Genesis > PC Engine > Neo Geo.
I guess that's likely why the SNES is ultimately regarded as the best system overall and even of all time by so many people.
It was a very competitive generation to be sure, with a group of 2D consoles that have really help up.
@@inceptional It was a great time to be alive and play games... Players had a real choice, rather than the two cheeks on the same arse that are Xbox and PS5
You should consider doing a video in this style for the original Playstation.
I've just recently started appreciating JRPGs and that has completely changed my view on the Playstation, it's incredible with it's catalog of RPGs.
The SNES is no slouch with it's RPG lineup either
It definitely does.
SNES was my first and probably favorite console.
I just would enjoy another Retrobird video about the PlayStation.
Have you played Legend of Dragoon yet? Super long but also super good 😊
@@athiestjesus8133 PSX kinda cheats in that FF2/4 and 3/6 and Chrono Trigger were all rereleased for it. Then again, my favorite RPG of all time is Genso Suikoden II, so whatever.
Yeah, I'm considering doing this for all the consoles. It feels like a way of celebrating each console.
All this is so beautiful... Magic in its purest form! beautiful memories, childhood, family, friends and lots of fun.
My grandmammy’s apple pie is really good though
there's no such thing as a bad apple pie
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What if there was poop in it?
I didn't have a Super Nintendo growing up cause all my cousins had one so I asked my parents for a Genesis. This way if I wanted to play Donkey Kong Country or Super Mario World I would just pay them a visit lol
Same😂
Same!
I had an SNES, and I played my uncle's Genesis. I couldn't imagine trying to play Final Fantasy IV or VI at someone else's house.
You drew the short straw there imo 😜
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My favorite console is the genesis because i love action platformers, beat em ups and shoot em ups. But snes and pc engine are amazing too. Not even counting the arcades! 90s was such a good time for games!
Whoa! Look how big your audience is getting!! Great work, Retro Bird! You deserve it!
I had both consoles back in the day. Loved them both, but purchased way more Genesis games.
Even as a dedicated Sega guy, the SNES is a classic juggernaut that still beats the crap out of todays works.
But still Sega Genesis #1 🎉
Definitely a great console for fans of retro 16 bit RPGs.
That Sega 'quality' sound. TING!! PING!! (Robot fart).
Yeah close call but I think that "genesis dose" deserve the crown of best console
It absolutely beat the piss poor of what we had today like PS5/Switch but Meta Quest 2/3 is really awesome though
Genesis does what Super Nintendon't
The SNES is like a fine wine
Let's be honest. The best video console of all time is the one you played the most as a kid.
That is correct; the console I played the most as a kid is indeed, and objectively, the best one.
Which would be the SNES by the way.
The console I consider to be the best is one I never owned as a kid, only got it when I was 23 years old. That's the Atari 2600, got one after watching lots of classic game room reviews and fell in love with it, the games are so simple and yet so good. And the homebrew games coming out are amazing.
Definitely but also SNES 😅jk
Definitely not. Mine was N64 and I never go back to it
Maybe not the best but the most nostalgic. I played the N64 as a kid and it is great, got great games, even my best memories are from that system, and I even had more games on that system, however I would say the GameCube was the best. I can’t tell you how many hours I got into Animal Crossing, Mario Party, and Phantasy Star Online.
SNES is a great home console with exclusives whereas Sega was continually attempting to bring the arcade experience home. Each had a different focus, in my opinion and are equally great.
I had the Genesis 1st and an Amiga before that. I held strong on not getting the SNES and then somehow it just happened. Final Fantasy II was one of my 1st games for the system and I was just blown away by the transparencies, the beautiful colors and that amazing little sound chip. What a console!
Ironically, the SNES had better arcade ports
@@madspunky Pretty much. I remember when people were gushing over Mortal Kombat the the Genesis, because it had blood. I rented both the SNES and Genesis game. Outside of the sweat, instead of blood, the SNES version of MK was miles better.
@@Gamevet I loved the violent sounds of the SNES version, so I found both equally attractive when it came to the game's selling point. But I will admit, the I put lag is horrible.
MK2 was no contest though
except sega never did bring the arcade experience home despite making the 32X and never bringing 99% of the superscaler titles to console release.
I love your dedication to the SNES eject button, and I’m right there with you 😌 there’s something so satisfying about popping the cartridge out that way, and you don’t have to worry about damaging the sticker/artwork
I also did not grow up with SNES, yet I think it’s the absolute best. Those graphics have aged like a bottle of fine wine
The feel of the concave and convex buttons are the reason why I have nostalgia for the console... just a conforming fit to enhance your don't have to look down-ness when your a new player or a kid without a chance to win...
thank you for mentioning the convex and concave buttons! it was such a genius little detail. i’m so with you on the B-Y thumb-rock.
I loved my sega genesis when I was a kid.
Same, plus the games were cheaper in price. I didn't have $80 to just casually throw down for a snes game like Donkey Kong or Megaman X2. I remember buying Sonic 3 and Vectorman 2 for $16 as a kid.
@@fwobebe5164 nice! Vectorman games were awesome to play back then and still today.
This channel needs more views, been binging your stuff the past few days and been loving it a ton! I hope you get your chance to really pop off man
7:00 I’m glad i’m not the only one playing Donkey Kong games the right way 😂😂❤❤
The A B buttons being convex and the X and Y being concave on the US version is pretty different to what I grew up with in England. No concave buttons whatsoever, but a lovely Green , Blue, Yellow and Red instead of the purple. When I think of the SNES the 4 colours make up a massive chunk of my memory, it just seemed so vibrant and appealing
You didn’t even mention the SNES’s ace in the hole: The Super Gameboy.
That thing is a godsend to those of us who collect GB and black cart GBC games. My clear GBC, well my old eyes have trouble seeing the small screen nowadays, and I don't own a backlit GBA SP, just a regular one, so those are relegated to there only. Shame the DS isn't GBC compatible as well, would really help.
The SNES is my favorite system of all time, with the PS1 and PS2 coming in close behind. While I love the Genesis (and any system of this era, really), the SNES is where I honestly had the most fun. All the incredible RPGs that I could just throw myself into, hours spent on Street Fighter 2 and Final Fight. Just amazing.
Love the SNES! I'd love to see your take on the MegaDrive also. I was unfortunate with timing as a kid, I got a NES just before the SNES dropped; subsequently, I didn't have either SNES or MegaDrive but loved both. I'd have probably argued for SNES in the console wars as a kid, while still arguing both are great.
With regard to the SNES' frame rate, I believe it fluctuated around 59fps, which can cause issues with some display scalers. That being said, my OSSC doesn't seem to have any problems with it.
Keep doing what you do Banana-man, I love your channel!
Sega Genesis is the best console of all time 🖤
I respectfully disagree.
The first time I played Mute City in F-Zero really blew my mind.
And that music!!
I bought a SNES again after getting a PS1. I liked the Playstation but I was missing all the good 2D stuff. It's still the console that I go back to most.
I really have to give it to the Snes and always have, bias and non bias. It is just absolutely superb in all categories! To be honest the 16 bit era is superior to what came next, and I think that the ease of use is the driving factor. Little to no load times, plug a game in and you are good, people tend to forget that aspect often. We waste so much time in loading, as great as the generations after were, they take more time starting and transitioning. The games were solid and many are works of art, it is a close call between Snes and Genesis. It is all speculation but I think the Snes really holds its own in contest, without needing much debate to back up it's credentials.
Yes. The answer is yes. It will always look amazing, the catalog will always carry some of the very best of a number of genres, they run on just about every bit of modern tech out there, and it literally molded my childhood. So to me, there's really no contest. It has the best Zelda, the best Mario, the best Metroid, the best Final Fantasy, the best Mana game, the best Mega Man, the best platformer (yes, it's Donkey Kong), the best JRPGs, the second best SRPG, all of the good Disney games, and enough ROMhacks to keep you busy until the end of time. End. Of. Discussion.
Plus S-Video support right out the box.
I grew up on the N64, the Playstation and to a degree the SNES but I gotta say---I would still say the PS2 was the Greatest Console Ever. Nonstop bangers.
IMO it comes down to whether you like 2D or 3D more. which is SNES vs PS2
Great video! I grew up in the '90s, so I actually agree. The SNES has aged like a fine wine! As a kid, I only had an NES and Genesis, but I did get to play the SNES from time to time at friends and neighbors' houses. Honestly, the 16-bit era blew me away when I was little. It is hard for me to choose between the SNES and Genesis as my favorite, too. I don't care, though, since still play both consoles and have a blast!
Thank you for mentioning the convex/concave buttons on the controller! I loved this feature, you could tell which row of buttons your finger was on without looking down.
No disagreement here. My friend had a Genesis. I enjoyed playing Sonic and other SG games. We did argue about which system was better. In the end, we played both. It was great. Nowadays, only got time for the shorter games. Can’t sit on my rear end for a long time to play 10 hour plus games. Super Famicom/Nintendo get my vote. Peace!-)
Sega got way more arcade ports than Snes, and the best shmups in all of gaming.
I'm still finding SNES gems now that I'm playing Japanese games we never got here
The Up movie is definitely contender for best movie of all time!
So darn good :)
The last years of SNES gave birth to modern gaming. Games starting looking really good and were getting long. You could save. Starting to feel open world. Does anyone start playing LttP, FF6, or Chrono Trigger and say I can't handle these old graphics and primitive gameplay? Never, not even to this day. Because this is exactly when games got truely classic.
the first LoZ and FF games on the NES were able to save your progress
7:20 pro-tip about Super-R-Type for SNES, there's an IPS patch that enables the SA-1 chip and eliminates slowdown. The same guy made patches for Contra 3 and Gradius 3 as well. Gradius 3 was especially notorious for slowdown since it was a launch title, so the developers didn't have the experience on how to maximize the consoles hardware yet. konami learned quickly though.
With each passing year I believe more and more that the SNES is the best console. It's amazing how many series arguably peaked on the console. Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Mega Man X, and more all have solid cases as the best games in their franchise, even 30+ years later.
The dreamcast controller is amazing! The dirty dog is the game cube controller...
How is your subscriber count so low? This is some high quality stuff, kudos
Thank you!
The snes had an amazing library that covered pretty much every genre. The only ones I can think of that can hang with it is the first two PlayStations. You could find something for everyone on those things
I grew up with genesis but got an snes in my mid teens and never looked back. Super Metroid and Zelda ALTTP were both my favorite games from their franchises. With classics like Harvest Moon, Pilotwings, Biker Mice, and MegaManX, my free time was spent.
Personal favorite 2D console is the Sega Genesis and 3D is Xbox 360. Each had the best competition IMO and think is a great thing (I also love SNES/PS3 with TG-16/Wii growing on me yearly).
I agree. The SNES took what was best about the 8-Bit generation and brought it to a new level. Visuals, music, new ways to play. It was a golden age of play.
I still have my launch SNES
I was a child of divorce and had both SNES and Genesis. One for mom's and the other for dad's. At the time I prefered the Genesis. It just felt better. NBA Jam, Street Fighter, games like that were not as good on SNES. But now at 40 years old, I think the Library of SNES games makes it the GOAT. All my precious JRPS were SNES
Super Nintendo is my personal favorite. It was Nintendo doimg everything they do at its most refined, and had a balance of simplicity and complexity that hits the sweet spot for me in its library. The pixel are and chip tunes of that time have generally aged extremely well, and there are quite a few games to still discover or return to time and again.
The 90s times were rad man. So mamy games and consoles to choose from.
I got into video games because of the arcade game Primal Rage so when I got to look around at Toys’R’Us I found a few choices. I had to decide between Genesis and SNES. I checked out the color theme for each and the SNES being purple and grey looked like something that belonged in my younger sisters room. And that was the turning point. So yeah for me the purple still throws me off even though today I love the color purple 😂
Great video as always! Now we're hoping to see the sequel: "Is the Wonderswan the Fourth Greatest Gaming Handheld Ever?"
I grew up with the SNES, so it's my favorite.... But I have been playing a lot of Genesis games lately, and the wider FOV has made that console age way better if you ask me.
"Imagine how airport security thought of this" 🤣
I had a Genesis as a kid, and I hate to admit it but the SNES is better. But I like the PS2 most, racing games are my favorite and the PS2 library of racing games is a deep pool with some of the all time great racing/driving games in it.
You aren't kidding. I'm a die hard racing game fan myself and midnight club is easily one of the best ever. Wish they would bring it back.
wow almost 700 comments! you're really blowing up retrobird! i used to believe the SNES was the greatest, and certainly my favorite. but after diving much further into the PSX library, i am now at odds. It's definitely one of those two, and i lean kind of toward the PSX these days. It's got tons of the SNES flavor and some of the greatest games of the 90s on top of that. SNES for me will always carry my two favorite games of all time: Mario World and Link to the Past. But the PSX has a much larger library of GOATs and tons of just "plain" A+ great games. it helps that the PSX has tons of SNES ports and arcade ports of that 90s pixel golden age, along with some incredible 3d games. it's tough. i lean PSX, but used to claim SNES. it's definitely one of those 2 though.
My top 3 are PS2, SNES, and PS1 in that order
I guess I'll rank my top 5 consoles:
1. Playstation 2 especially with it being backwards compatible with the Playstation 1. So, it was 2 consoles in one plus it had great games, it has MANY games that I still haven't played yet; it had a DVD player, and audio player. It was the best value for the money and since I'm saying Playstation 2 it also = Playstation 1.
2. Super Nintendo - For reasons said here
3. Sega Genesis
4. NES
5. Xbox 360.
I had a super NES as a kid back in 1992. Me and my big brother would play super Mario world, f zero, starfox, super mario kart, super Mario all stars, street fighter 2, Mario paint among others. It was an amazing time to be a kid. It was such a leap from the original NES. We had a sega Genesis too but once i had the super nes it was pretty much all i played. And we even had a sega cd and sega nomad and even the rare sega channel which would let you play new games through your cable company before they even hit stores. So from 92 to 95 it was pretty much super NES all day everyday, especially when donkey kong country and super Metroid came out. I would rate the super nes as one of the best consoles ever made, just under the PlayStation 2 imo. They're both incredible and both have amazing libraries that will last for generations
Ok, I think you’ve convinced me. So many great games that are so fun to play with such great and varied soundtracks, so much passion from games made by Nintendo as well as third-party support, so many genres well represented, especially RPGs, platformers, and sports games, and so many underrated titles, such as The Lion King, the Super Star Wars trilogy, Jim Powers’ The Lost Dimension, and Aladdin. The NES was of course my first love but the SNES was so much more advanced and yet had games that were so much more fun and exciting than many games on later systems. And yes, it spawned my favorite video game trilogy of all time, the DKC trilogy, which had such epic OSTs, like Stickerbrush Symphony, Hot Head Bop, and Bayou Boogie!!😮 I guess the only weakness IMO was a lack of racing games.
I grew up with the NES but switched to the Genesis during the 16-Bit era. However, most of my friends owned am SNES back then. I never hated the SNES and played it over my friends houses while my friends would play my Genesis. When I was finally old enough to work, I got both a Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo. I bought back all of my childhood favorites on the Genesis but I also bought a lot of the games my friends would play on the SNES to see what it was like on the other side.
Fast forward to today and while I was team Sega back in the 90s, the reality of it all is that the time period would not have been as great as it was without both the Genesis and SNES. Sure, they were competition but both systems had unique games that balanced each other out.
During the 16-Bit console wars, iron sharpened iron. There was a Sonic for Mario. A Phantasy Star for Final Fantasy. A Shining Force for Fire Emblem (if you were able to import and understand back then). A Virtua Racing for. Star Fox. You guys get the point. It was competition in the best way possible and as gamers, we all won at the end of the day. So to me, there was no clear winner in terms of game output and the more I purchase for both consoles, the more I realize how tiny the gaming world was to all of us back then.
To your point @RetroBird this is a great video and I wouldn't think of anyone as wrong for taking the stance of the SNES. But I also wouldn't blame anyone for taking the side of the Genesis either. This is one of my favorite eras of gaming and although I am still very much Team Genesis, there is a special place in my heart for the SNES and in this day in age, there is no one over the other. It's just about what I am in the mood to play at the moment I am in. Actually, please make that Genesis video as well. Besides the Genesis, I used to own a Sega CD Model 2 and a 32X back then as well. I would love to hear your thoughts on that system as well.
So yes, I do agree with you but I also agree with the other side of this coin as well. It's all fun at the end of the day and that is what is truly important.
At the peak of the 16bit console war I remember both Mega Drive and SNES were on one level with each having their own unique quirks. However, it was Mortal Kombat 2 to me that showed the technical advantages of the SNES. Even though I was a Sega guy I thought the SNES was cool 😊 But it took me 30+ years to get one, finally 😅
Took me till 1998 to get a Genesis, had an SNES since 91. I wanted more games to play, and eventually led me down the road to collecting for both. Kind of getting harder to do now with the insane prices the games go for.
For me it's tough between SNES, N64, Wii and Switch but something about SNES just hit different.
You skipped the GameCube tho. It had its classics too. Think about it. Nintendo stayed alive on its own development for years. GameCube was a part of that.
The wii was just a shovelware counsel. WiiU was am absolute failure. But yet Nintendo is still here! Kicking @$$ and taking n@me$.
I didn't skip it, the GC while a solid console is just not in the same league as the ones I mentioned. I don't hate the GC but the GC didn't have the same impact as snes, wii and switch did, lets be honest here. That being said, the GC was underrated but it didn't have nearly the same success as the aforementioned.
Yes, people are VERY nostalgic and VERY adamant when explaining how their favorite games (as a kid, but they never mention it) are the best of the best of the best, even today.
For me, I have experience with the SNES. It's was fun times. Although, regarding the purple thing, here in Europe we had the Famicom design, which I happen to prefer. Albeit - different exterior, same inside.
First off just want to say I love the channel! I find your videos to be much more entertaining than most retro videos I watch. I just thought I'd drop a little tip about Trinitrons. It looks like your TV might have a bit of the classic Sony "red push" issue going on from your footage. There's a setting in the service menu (labeled slightly different on different models) it usually goes by something to the effect of AXNT or AXIS. If you disable that, or turn down in some cases, you can greatly improve the amount of red push seen on the screen. Any-hoo, keep up the awesome videos and keep eating bananas my friend! 👌💪🍌 Just thought I'd throw that out there.
Great vid and fun stuff here. I'm a Sega guy to the end, but the fact is the SNES is home to so many classics. Before the Switch arrived on the scene, it was hard to argue that it wasn't Nintendo's best console imo. I still want to pick a SNES up one day. Also, the purple color scheme and convex/concave buttons are still cool.
Super R-Type was actually cut back by Konami.
Some jackass in a suit noticed they could save money by using a cheaper cart that wasn't capable of using the full strength of the SNES CPU.
Retro bit did a rerelease of the game with actual planned chips being used.
It's like a day a night difference. This just goes to show that even back in the day you had coperations screwing gamers over.
Is that similar to the "FastROM" and SA-1 hack of the game?
@@neogohanamv I'm sorry but I have not played those. So I can neither confirm or deny that,
Konami? Try Irem.
PS2 for the Win.
SNES>PS2. Not even a question.
@@What_In_This_World Haha, I acknowledge your position, and the *strength* of it. But the PS2, for me, has not only endless games of all genres, really, that are super good, but also was the best version of the compilation system, including everything from PS1 as well as various re-releases.
The controller really seals the deal. SNES is the greatest, and as games get more complex the perfect mix of 2D quick simplicity and complexion in so many genres, it just sets itself apart more and more as a timeless and unique experience.
Back then I was a Genesis fan over SNES but now days I love all consoles and there are incredibly great games in all systems.
Your points are pretty much identical to mine for the SNES. It represented sort of the pinnacle of the 2D era of home consoles before the next generation would make the dramatic shift into 3D space. The graphical fidelity possible on the system was a pretty big leap from the 8-bit consoles before it and the sound and music were also greatly improved. It has a large and varied library with an incredible amount of third-party support. It managed to come fairly close to bringing many arcade experiences into the home, particularly with the fighting game craze of the '90s. It also had simple, accessible and reliable hardware with no pointless gimmicks and possibly the best (2D) controller ever made. Obviously, everyone's opinion on a subject like this is going to be influenced by their age and relative experience but however you slice it, the SNES has more than its fair share of reasons to be considered among the best.
Yeah, it just has so much going for it.
7:10 There was no problem with the SNES' processor, some programmers just didn't know how to optimize the code enough... Take Gradius 3, for example... A simple code cleaning from a guy named Aendy, managed to get the game rid of almost all of its slowdowns (which, btw, were present in most of the games on ALL platforms - Genesis included).
Another aspect that definitely hindered the SNES' capacities were the infamous, cheaper "slowrom" cartridges. On those, the SNES would have to work with like 77% of its processor's speed, which coupled with the previously mentioned not so well coded games, almost always ended on games with slowdown.
Good thing that nowadays, there are ppl that optimize the codes and even turn slowrom games into Fastrom ones, just giving the good old SNES a FAIR chance to get rid of this false impression.
Nice video, nonetheless... cheers!
Hackers today have gone back and started fixing the mistakes past programmers made for the console, including a music bug fix that removes Street Fighter Alpha 2's load times. The load times were caused by a bug Capcom overlooked during development, and never corrected.
It's either the SNES or the Great "Failed" Sega Dreamcast...
Bite Me
As a lover of 2D gaming and pixel art, obviously I Love the Super nintendo. I'll admit I was a bit late to the party (we got the system about 8 months later than North America anyway) as it took the Legend of Zelda : A Link to the Past to finally convince me to upgrade to a 16-bit console. These days I struggle to choose between the SNES and Megadrive as both have amazing game libraries.
It took the SEGA Saturn coming along to finally make me trade-in my SNES - although I now have another as well as almost all of the games I owned back in the day. I completely understand why the system is so highly regarded and still many people's favourite.
*btw - I always liked he look of those concave buttons on the US Super nintendo, but I can't really complain as here in europe our systems weren't strangely brick shaped!!
The PS1 is my favourite, so I get a lot out of the SNES being such a direct predecessor of it. Definitely feels like the kinds of large, story-based adventures that were standard on the PS1 owe a lot to what became popular on the SNES. Games on the SNES came right of the gate looking incredible, with F-Zero and Pilotwings, but developers gained such a rich understanding of the hardware within the five or so years it was in the spotlight. It's one of the most confident consoles ever made.
I certainly think it's the greatest console ever for me personally, for a bunch of reasons. There's just something special about it, its time and place, and how well balanced an all round and overall experience it was, with literally none of the negatives of pretty much every single modern console as I see it. So, having said that, I understand why you've heard it mentioned a lot.
But, I'll tell you this, I can fully acknowledge just how impressive on a technical level the Genesis and some of its games were. It's been somewhat of a revelation to learn in the last few years of the various areas where the Genesis really does technically outperform the SNES. And there's four things about the Genesis that I wish I could go back in time and add to the SNES too:
1. The 320 pixel horizontal resolution (so many ports are easier and better on Genesis for pretty much this reason alone).
2. The higher max sprite pixels per scanline (it's the single thing that allows more enemies in Genesis' beat 'em ups with less flicker).
3. The freedom with the VRAM and slightly faster DMA (it's this that means less Genesis games have forced blank, which is the blank rows at the top and bottom of the screen).
4. The faster CPU (because more speed is always a good thing).
Still, when all is said and done, that's just technical under the hood stuff that may or may not manifest itself in its games in some meaningful way. And there's plenty of technical areas where the SNES outclasses the Genesis too: Colours, background layers, advanced transparency, built-in Mode 7 and other special graphical effects, Dolby Surround sound capability, etc.
At the end of the day though, there's a large handful of games on SNES that I simply rank above anything on Genesis in terms of sheer all round quality, playability and replayability, many of which were due to the fact that Nintendo was basically unmatched as a first party developer at that time imo. Plus there's that best in class SNES controller that perfectly rounds everything off perfectly. And those are the two biggest and most important factors for me.
So, yeah, for this gamer, the SNES is the greatest console of all time. :)
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I started playing with Famicom, an Atri clon, and went from there to Nes, Snes and then Playstation and newer consoles.
They all had their moment in my life, but without a doubt, the Super Nintendo was the best console.
The controls just felt right, and the games were unique, beautifull and very fun to play.
Up to this day, to me is and will be the best console.
I was born in '97 (which incidentally means I'm the same age as FFVII), so I didn't discover the SNES until I emulated games in my teens and later was introduced to the classics (and the controller) by the SNES Classic. Despite this, I would agree that it is definitely one of, if not the, greatest consoles of all time. I do agree that the Genesis had some fantastic games, though.
Incidentally, my favorite _system_ to play overall is the Nintendo DS, which in a number of respects feels like a successor to the SNES while also doing enough outside-the-box stuff to be considered the Miss Frizzle of gaming -- it took chances, it made mistakes, and it got messy, but it provided a unique experience and in the end we all learned something from it.
I think the reason why these systems (and the GBA, for that matter) tend to be so lauded is because they were at the perfect intersection of having enough power to do cool stuff and have beautiful pixel graphics, while also having a number of limitations that the devs had to devise ingenious solutions to solve, which led to a lot of really interesting games that looked great. I suspect the Genesis may also be in this category, but I am significantly less familiar with it so I can't say for sure.
And if you really don't like purple enough that you can't bear to see it on the controller, you can always get a Japanese or European controller with RGBY buttons instead of the two shades of purple. You miss out on the concave/convex differentiation though.
Another banger video, good job dude!
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I always thought that the Snes purple buttons looked like the candy called smarties, and sort felt like them too.
I’m from UK and consoles were always a hard sell over here until the 16-bit generation. We didn’t have as much false advertising, so to sell your machines you had to be one of two things.. good or super cheap. We’re a tight bunch over here too 😂 The SNES burst onto the scene with its port of street fighter 2, but if you were lucky enough to have one at the time you will never stop loving it. I mean I had an older brother who already owed a Megadrive but the SNES blew it out the water. Once I moved onto the SNES I never looked back. It was a machine designed for kids to play together, had a robust format for babies dribble on or be thrown at the wall in frustration 😂 and also had some of the best one player experiences of all time. I’ll never forget thinking Zelda was over to then move into the dark world. Things like that seem normal now but I’d never seen anything like that at the time. Most games were over in 30 mins, 1-2 hours if you were lucky. I also think it had a great balance. Yeah the Megadrive had some great shooters and beat erm ups and the NEO GEO AES was king of fighters 😝 But if you wanted the best of all worlds the SNES had you covered.
Also, super Gameboy was awesome 👏 the only mistake I think they made was the awful gun.. should of kept it simple. But aside from that it rules.
It was before Sony and Microsoft fucked everything up, back when it was about pure gaming.
I collect for all 3 now SNES, Megadrive and AES. The holy trinity.. carts rule! Keep it 2D, keep it Square, keep it analogue 👍
SNES is the absolute GOAT. So many brilliant games, top-tier 2D, and some of the finest JRPGs ever made even until this day. Don't get me wrong, the Sega Genesis is a strong contender, and so is the PS2, but I gotta give it to the SNES.
Good video. I grew up with each generation of consoles starting with the NES, and I would argue that the SNES was the most memorable, also with some really memorable parts with the ps1 and N64 consoles. But I would also agree with other comments that point out that the best console seems to be the one that kids grew up playing. BUT, as an example and argument for the SNES I would put DK country 1-3 up against any other DK games that came after and ask you to find a better one. There’s something to be said about the limitations of a console’s hardware. I would argue that the move to 3d radically changed video games, and not necessarily for the better. The concise and creative uses of the limited 2d hardware really set this generation apart from all future consoles, some of which was lightly broached in this video.
Gameboy advanced is pretty cool too, but I only know about/have one because of my much younger fiancée….she also came with a Gamecube and a cat, and I like both to a degree but find the 3dimensionality of the cat easier to navigate. The game cube is however, I think the coolest ost idiosychratic of all the systems hardware-wise and I have taken steps to turn ours into a PC that we can use as a central entertainment hub and do everything from, whilst still retaining its original functionality intact. Life changes you.
The snes is probably my favorite system! I love a ton of them but I keep going back to the SNES.
Bird must not have been a WoW Classic guy, a 10 minute horse ride in that game is considered just a quick jaunt. I used to jokingly call it "World of Walkcraft."
You just have an amazing library games even though they kind of went overboard with the RPGs
I think one point against the super Nintendo and the 16 bit generation in general is that they didn't do any groundbreaking stuff. Everything they did was mostly an iteration over 8 bit consoles and micros. In contrast, think of Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye, Final Fantasy VII, Gran Turismo, GTA III, Calle of Duty...
Was a Genesis kid but my after school program had a SNES and I strongly preferred it.
Got an N64 for Christmas 96 tho, so it wins for me!
I play must systems since nintendos original pong , Atari , master system , famicon , genesis , etc but yes this will be my fav console of all time 🔥🙏 Thank you for the memories !!!
To be honest despite I grow up with a NES and SNES, I wasn't very into gaming until the N64 and PSX.
But still I played some great games on the SNES but mostly the kind underrated or license games ones like the Disney's games (Toy Story, Mickey, Aladdin, The Lion King), Earthworm Jim, Bubsy, Stunt Race FX, U.N. Squadron, the Looney Tunes ones like Bugs Bunny, The Roadrunner and Speedy Gonzalez, etc...
Now thinking right...., I barely played the popular titles ones, lol!, since I mostly played the Donkey Kong Country trilogy, StarFox, F-Zero, Megaman X, Super Mario World and that's it.
The SNES was my first console as well and probably has my favorite games on it to this day.
The thing is that subjects like this are always totally subjective and everyone's going to have a different viewpoint, so to answer your question, Retro Bird: yes.
Genesis 6 button has concave and convex buttons. And that said the Saturn too.
I’m a huge genesis fan, though the real winner here is the fans. That competition really brought out the best of both sides.
As for games ported to both consoles, most of them DID play better on the Genesis and the Super Nintendo versions “looked better in magazines”
My favorite console: The MiSTer FPGA.
I still like my PC best ^^