Just a random suggestion, but I think it’d be cool if you did a horror history on Art the Clown, if you ever feel inclined lol I enjoy your content man ! Keep up the great work !
Boogie tries the 3 textbook manipulation tactics every time. 1. Deny 2. Deflect and shift blame 3. If all else fails, revert back to his mental health issues as a get out of jail free card. There is ZERO awareness from this guy. Hes 48 so I doubt he'll change much.
You forgot: Schmooze- fake kindness to make the other party feel guilty for holding you accountable Obfuscate- spout so many lies so quickly it’s hard to zero in on all of them. It takes more energy to disprove a lie than to lie.
damn I don't like the guy but you're basically the same, completely ignoring how a bunch of times in this video he admits he was stupid, delusional, says he's a pussy, and in general comes off as honest without trying to shift blame or deny. He does all the things you mention as well a couple times, but clearly you're biased and ignore everything else
For sure. Evidence of boogie’s lies: “Oh well you see it wasn’t intentional it’s because I’m so mentally ill I was delusional, let me tell you a long anecdote about how mentally ill I am…”
Tom: Boogie, please address this specific thing. Boogie: Okay Tom let me tell you about how mentally ill and stupid I am. Also let me virtue signal about how I think so progressively.
@@thetruth619ful Boogie's first line of offense against people is to make them lower their guard, either by trying to flatter or by looking as pathetic as possible; when this fails is when he becomes either aggressive or starts to threaten with self deletion.
In the first five minutes I noted: 1) Boogie putting Tom on a pedestal to appease him and be more "likable" 2) fast talking to not let another person have a lot to say 3) putting himself down and excuse his own behavior 4) tell his community that tom has made X number of videos to give the possibility of obsession
I fall victim to thinking I’m the “perfect victim” like this and Boogie has helped me see just how absolutely ridiculous it is and how ridiculous I was also being
@@jordanaultman8423to some extent me as well 😂 glad UA-cam is filled with a lot of proper self improvement content (just learning from other's mistakes)
@@dermeisterdesspiegels3518 it is very interesting to be able to observe other’s falling down bad paths like this. Helpful but sure feels strange doesn’t it
Five minutes in, and I can already tell Boogie is just going to lie his way through this. Just finished the video. Overall, Boogie hasn't changed in the slightest. He still embellishes the details of his stories, denies allegations towards him despite any evidence to proving that he's lying, but the worst is his overall defeatist attitude towards himself. Its insulting everytime he brings up his mental health as an excuse for his behavior consistently, but never details how he is trying to improve. It sounds less like a person struggling with their mental and physical health, and more like someone making excuses for trying to not improve. I think everyone can empathize with Boogie's story, but people aren't dumb and they can see when you're trying to mislead them.
Yup. I got a friend like this. He is also morbidly obese and a serial liar. He says it's just how his brain works and it makes him this way. Not a shred of accountability in his body and when backed into a corner will just say he doesn't care or something else that's defeatist.
It's especially jarring to watch him acknowledge and describe his maladaptive behavior AS HE'S DOING IT. Like, not once does he stop himself and consider making another choice. He doesn't even try. As someone who has also been through a ridiculous amount of therapy and is severely mentally ill... I think DBT would greatly benefit him.
During this entire inerview he acted like a child that was just caught lying in from of his parents, even though Boogie can be Tom's father. He is over twice his age. What a humiliation.
Peoples wired like Boogie dont grow up to become wise and honest adults, they "evolve" from little liars with a few tricks to outrageously dishonest hypocrites with no regards for the Truth. Yes, this is a severe mental illness, but talking HONESTLY with a mental health professional can heal pathology.
@@theoutsiderjess1869 100%, and god its so frustrating. He sits there and lies and when he’s called out on his lie, he just pities himself and pities himself and pities himself until the topic moves beyond the embarassing ass interactions where he just flat out lies, Tom calls it out and doesnt let him have any wiggle room to weasel out of accountability. What a pathetic person.
@@hihihi1q23 I never saw that, what I did see is the desire of taking it out of school since it has nothing to do with education, can you give some examples of conservative libertarians that want to censor LGBT discussion?
@@382u3uuejthink people sexualize attraction too much. i had crushes on girls before i even knew sex existed. i think these book bans and shit even from schools is gonna tell these kids that if they come out they’ll be seen as a pedofile/sex pest degenerate. there is a rampant pedofile problem in that community but it’s mostly because of the isolation. a lot are forced to hide their gay shit online and become addicted to being online.
Boogie twisting his porn blog years as 'working with individual girls' and then randomly lying about doing their photoshoots is one of the most unhinged things ever.
how this is going so far: tom brings up something boogie did -> boogie tries to lie his way out of it or use semantics -> boogie tries to bring up something else in defense -> tom calls him out -> and so on
@@suitdoggy4707 That one video on him, "the black cup of narcissism" so beautifully represented the idea of the energy vampire by using the cup analogy.
He is so lucky that Tom genuinely isn’t a hater. He was willing to give Tom access to his Twitter to “prove” there’s nothing to hide. Just like he was willing to send people his girlfriends ID, essentially doxxing her, just to prove she’s of age.
The only thing I saw him let slip was when boogie said something along the lines of "21 you're still a kid" near the beginning as though he isn't dating a 20 year old
Boogie has no idea that this interview made him look infinitely worse than any of Tom’s videos. The self flagellating is so unbelievably pathetic to listen to. SO MUCH CRYING AND COPING. THIS MAN IS ALMOST 50 YEARS OLD THIS IS UNREAL
All that therapy has rotted his brain. He copes hard and won’t improve as a person by justifying it with him having a bad childhood and mental illnesses. Tom is right about him being so defeatist.
@@Synflood-dot-txtdepends on how they’re raised more than who raises them. My ex husband and I divorced when my son was less than a year old. We’ve been parenting from different coasts for 11 years. My son flies back and forth 2 times a year so we can have as close to equal custody as possible. He’s essentially had 4 parents for 70% of his life. He’s extremely well adjusted for a kid in a situation like that. Especially one who has a dad who is in the military and has deployed a lot. Boogie could have turned out fine had his mother actually raised him. I don’t know all of his lore but I can believe that his dad wasn’t super involved when he was a kid if he really was a coal miner. They worked themselves to death back then. I just don’t like to see single parents get a bad rep. It seems like they get stereotyped but nobody asks where the other parent was for them to end up being single. Sure, sometimes it’s parental alienation. But in my experience it’s usually that the other parent simply doesn’t want to be included. Regardless of what gender they are.
Life is different for all of us, I was extremely immature untill about 15-17 then all of a sudden I was a completey different person... thankfully I became sympathetic and mature
I fucking hate when people use mental health as an excuse for their bullshit. I'm autistic and have adhd, I don't use it as an excuse for being an asshole
@Matttttttttttttt many people have "misfunctioning brains" you can take responsibility and try to make the best out of a bad situation, or you can be like boogie and wallow in self-pity. He wants to be mentally ill so bad. He doesn't care about getting better whatsoever
He literally pulls stuff out of his ass. Like he keeps bringing up “points” from Tom’s video on him but half the points he makes aren’t even in the video lmao. He didn’t do his research.
That's Boogie for you: his body, mind and bank account have the amazing capability to change at will whenever he needs to. He's dumb until someone criticizes his smarts, then he becomes a super genius. He's poor until someone mocks him about it and then he suddenly has a million in the bank. He's perfectly sane and healthy until someone questions his actions and suddenly he's extremely ill and with every mental illness of the book
I've suffered depression and anxiety most of my life, and I've still been able to go to school, hold down a job, maintain relationships, and live a mostly normal life despite my problems. Mental illness can make it incredibly difficult to live a productive life, but it's never an excuse to give up and not try.
Holy fuck, the part when he was like "you called me racist" and then you were like "uh no" and his response was "oh I didn't catch the whole video my brain is broken :(((" holy jesus, such cowardice. Takes a shot hoping it would land and when he doesn't he just reverts to "feel sorry for me"
Boogie: I couldn’t work for anyone I have no skills!! Also Boogie: I taught myself html and learned how to make websites and did that for many people! Man’s a whole pathological liar. He knows it too. He is not autistic. Anyone dating this man: run.
He had me at. Boogie: Do you believe I'm emotionally abusive? Tom: I don't know probably. Boogie: So look here I'm autistic so- Not ounce of accountablity
@@p-nk7031 that's what I'm saying, bro couldn't have watched the whole video, but called it. I did see though boogie did upload this video yesterday, so dude could have seen the video yesterday.
@@JSowder21 You dont need to watch the video to call the obvious. Boogie is a well known master manipulator and extremely lazy. He is very predictable now as well.
As a fan of Boogie from the olden days, it fucking hurts to see him become the professional victim he is now. It’s like watching a friend go down a dark path.
Anybody who says “I’m just stupid! I’m a big ole dummy! I just keep failing into situations that a normally intelligent person would not fail into!” Instantly sets off alarms in my head. I am sure there’s a word for this. Maybe some form of projection. But it basically acts as a way to differ blame by denying having any agency. They are abusing a persons inclination to believe the old saying “never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.” I don’t have an over all point to end this comment but its just something I wish you’d called out. You did a great job in general of calling him out on BS though.
Yeah, I've met someone who kept on simply blaming their actions on being emotional without acknowledging the fact that they still made conscious decisions to act the way they did. I don't think deflecting is the right term but it definitely feels like they're redirecting the responsibility away from them. Perhaps it'd be better to say that they're downplaying the extent of their accountability to their actions.
Boogie is incapable of taking accountability. If there's no one to blame in a situation, he plays the mental health card (I have PTSD, I was disassociating, I have anxiety) or simply plays the "I'm an idiot" / "My brain doesn't work so good" card. For someone who acknowledges that they're an idiot, he sure does spend a great deal of time trying to twist around all of the criticisms levied at him. Perhaps getting off social media or distancing himself from the internet is the best course of action, but no. He won't do that because he hides behind the guise of helping others or not wanting the trolls to win. He is insane and beyond help.
I agree with all of you, to me it feels like he’s fawning. Boogie’s constant self deprecation, and rolling over, and giving up, while constantly (and poorly) praising Tom for no reason is hard to watch. He doesn’t want help, he wants to be right :/
Proposing fines for speaking the OBJECTIVE, EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH (that Keffals and Dylan Mulvany are men, for eg), and then shifting goal-posts,to saying that's totally the same thing as yelling racial slurs at someone.
@@againsttheleftandright4065 true, although you still can suffer the consequences of saying them. you'll get beat up, socially chastised, exiled from friend groups, etc.
He cant be held accountable cause "it's some issue with his brain" He straight up forfeit his credibility to anything he says Any attempt at such a convo like this wil just be circle jerking, leading nowhere.
His entire stream was literally "um im literally neurodivergent and a minor???" except he's 50. Also "justifying delusions" thats not how delusions work. Delusions are being convinced what you think IS REAL. If you know what you think is fake but you still act on it, its not a delusion.
he established that he is mentally ill and low iq from the start, just so he can use it as a shield later and avoid giving explanations for his mistakes, its weaponized incompetence did something wrong? i was delusional sorry
Delusions happen during psychosis or extreme manic episodes and theyre dangerous as they lead sufferer to believe they are above human, being persecuted, connected to the divine, etc. when boogie is describing is just being a douche.
The change in boogies tone and demeanor after HE starts HIS recording is such a stark difference, goes to show that once he feels like hes in control and has his own recording that he can spin and edit in favor of him that confidence rises
I love how he’s like: “Tom, you don’t understand. My brain is broken, I’m crazy, I can help myself from doing crazy shit because I’m delusional.” as an excuse and then two seconds later he’s like: “Tom, who would do that? For me to do that my brain would have to be broken, I’d have to be crazy, it’d be like I can’t help myself from doing crazy shit because I’m delusional. Is that what you’re accusing me of Tom?
@@theoutsiderjess1869 it's Ian Padilla now, nothing you can do will change my mind and his interviews are boring except for a few mid ones. Imagine if Tom interviewed Idubbz instead of Ian that would have made great content instead of what we got.
It seems like a lot of people still think Boogie hates himself, but it’s the opposite. I believe Boogie loves himself so much that any inconvenience or bad luck that befalls him is a personal attack against him. He truly believes he only deserves good things because he is the best person, the kindest, the most empathetic. The only reason he puts himself down so much is because he doesn’t believe it. Boogie’s entire existence is focused on just himself. Even in this interview, he didn’t ask Tom anything that didn’t directly relate to him. He is so unbelievably insufferable
@@dapswazzack yes Thats a good point and i made the comment before he said he finally got diagnosed properly! Still though boogie is suspect for lying so who knows
Boogie: You have made some racist jokes before Tom: yes Tom: you have made some racist jokes before Boogie: well… Tom have you ever been mentally challenged before? You see my brain is wir-
Tom: I actually have evidence that you've made a shit ton of racist jokes in the past- Boogie: Are you racist Tom? Why do you feel comfortable making those sorts of jokes?
I hate how whenever he's being criticized he always talks about "my brain" to create this level of separation from his shitty behaviors. Bitch YOU ARE YOUR BRAIN. Stop acting like you're this innocent, powerless bystander victim to your brain that has zero control
Uggh... Jokes aren't racist, they're jokes. Racial humor is not "racist" humor, it is simply humor involving race. Now that the term "racist joke" is so common in today's lexicon, the term "racist" has been permanently diluted
Never thought i would ever seen a 20 year old ripping a 40 year old a new one lmfao this kid is shredding him lol imma look at this interview in preparations for when my son argues with me at that age lmfao
Just being blunt and to the front. Good old honest confrontation lol people are too scared to do that even if their loved ones would benefit from hearing it
I will say, as people get older they mess up more, and bad habits form. As bad habits form, it becomes normal and you don’t see anything wrong with it. A young person will usually have less baggage, and it truly is easier to judge and pick at flaws. While I believe this to be true, boogie is still insufferable and a chameleon.
Tom stands his ground with the confidence of a man that has done his research and can not be gaslit. If only all interviewers were as well informed about their subjects.
He's trying to be friendly and manipulate him into liking him so he can ensnare him in his spider web of fat guy lies. While also being passive aggressive.
He wants Tom to like him and be his friend so bad. His attempts at being friendly and affable to a guy who literally doesn't give a fuck beyond a baseline level of respect is cringey to watch. It's sad to watch because Steven is so much older than Tom. This big 'ol man is trying SO hard to win the approval of a guy fresh out of his teens.
@@michaelhernandez7978 And funny enough, he's the worst person to try this due to how straight up unlikeable he is. Him saying "we can play games together sometime" made me side eye the shit out of Casper next to me
So boogie's latest excuse for being abusive is that he's actually having an "autistic meltdown" instead. Oh, I lied? I was being delusional. Oh, I was being abusive? I was actually having an autistic meltdown. It's incredible that he thinks anyone could buy this nonsense, dude has absolutely no shame.
Boogie: I'm socially libertarian Also Boogie: I think you should be arrested for saying certain words. Btw Boogie, being taken by the cops IS being arrested. The words you are looking for is "I don't think they should be charged". And yes. Yes you do. Stop using political terms you don't understand. You are neither liberal nor libertarian.
Boogie deflects everything to his mental illness and being delusional but he's perfectly cognizant. He's completely aware of his situation but still chooses to play the victim. Pathologically lying as naturally as he breathes.
This is way too underrated. Completely unbiased, boogie just proved every point in tom’s video. It’s astonishing how boogie quite literally can’t take accountability for anything
Listening to Boogie complain about not being able to work a job is infuriating. I’m a convicted felon who fucked up my life due to a DUI crash that resulted in serious injuries. Trying to get job is seriously difficult for me, but I’m not complacent in my situation, and want to become a functioning member of society.
At least you learnt your lesson and an innocent person wasn’t killed. Well, I’m assuming they weren’t. Maybe Boogie’s only chance of sympathy is a DUI.
I deal Major Depressive Disorder & I can understand Boogies lack of accountability & self-depracation but if he's really going to therapy I 150% doubt his therapist is enabling his behavior. He keeps saying him & the therapist "agree" on his blaming his shit behavior on XYZ & that makes me doubt hes seeking any form of therapy whatsoever. Therapy is all about self-accountability. Once you stop playing the woah is me all the time & start taking steps to get better mentally, you quickly realize that your your own worst enemy & tend to blame all your faults on other people/things.
He's probably required to go to anger management/therapy for his felony probation, but there's no way he could benefit from therapy. He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, you can't really treat that. The therapist would ask why he lies and manipulated and offer to fix it, and he would not ever admit to being the person he really is.
Nawh, most therapists nowadays are self indulged schizos who became therapists to fix themselves and at this point they are the worst thing you can possibly do to try and take accountability for yourself.
Boogie weaponizing his therapist through the autism diagnosis is a pretty good example of talk therapy being not only useless for people like boogie, but it in fact gives them insight and tools to further manipulate.
He don't belive in anything just whatever people around him think. If it was popular to say kill POC he'd champion how morally virtuous it is to do so.
I listened to this the other day on Boogies channel and it was devastating for him. He says some outlandish shit and then goes "muh mental health! people dont understand what i deal with.." when proven wrong.
tom sometimes makes some wild points in his vids, but i literally LOVE how direct you are with him, it seems like EVERYONE in the commentary community are all talk but once confronted with the person they criticize they backpedal so hard but you actually call him out on his shit in the first second, like boogie was testing how much bs he can get away with you, but you held your ground
I love how Tom is holding Boogie accountable and calling out his lies. Watching Boogie lie his way through this interview was like watching a train wreck.
So damn stupid and ill-advised for Boogie to reach out to you and ask YOU to interview HIM. Seriously what kind of shit IS that??? If he's the one reaching out and making the initial contact then HE should be the one to bring up the points of discussion instead of expecting you to have questions for him. Add that to the fact that he didn't even bother to actually WATCH your video about him, he's reacting to it based on tweets he's seen from others about it and he himself having just skimmed it. How he still has any fans left that support his decisions and behavior is a true mystery.
The sunk cost fallacy, my friend. Sinking so much time into a relationship or endeavor that you're hesitant to believe the worst and cut ties. I see so many of Boogie's remaining fans state that they've been fans for X amount of years and I believe that's the reason they choose to ignore the mounting evidence against him.
Only 4 minutes in and Boogie is already acting like kid who just got caught in a lie by their parents. Except Tom is like half Boogie's age. The amount of secondhand embarrassment I'm feeling is indescribable. Edit : LOL just saw Boogie unlisted his upload of the interview. What an ACTUAL manchild holy shit.
"Everything that has ever happened to me isn't my fault, and it's impossible for me to improve my life.... But please feel bad for me" I swear Boogie is insufferable
I don't watch Boogie enough but he sounds like a covert narcissist, it's too long to describe but it does make sense since he lies so much, he always victimizes himself and he always deflects all blame, notice that he never attributes his faults to himself, it's always "my messed up brain", "autism", "low IQ", etc. It's always things that he can't control, it reminds me of how Chris Chan says that his only fault is having autism (which means he would be perfect without it). Being a covert narcissist almost makes sense in the context of him being abused as a child, since narcissism is created during childhood when the abused child suffers some sort of abuse which makes him replace the real self with an omnipotent false self, that way the abused child escapes the feelings of impotence by creating a personality that is omnipotent (like escaping to a fantasy world). Boogie is always fishing for compliments, lying and manipulating people around him to get what he wants, it makes sense that he is a covert narc for what I have seen of him, but as I said I haven't watched him a lot since I'm not that interested in this obese pathetic manchild.
That's a damn good point. It's almost impossible for us to be objectively self critical and we really need people in our lives to tell us point blank when we're acting stupid or selfish.
historically haven't cared less about Boogie, but this saga with Tom has gotten me invested...this is just sad. Like he's repulsive and vile with all this deflection and gaslighting, but it's so pathetic that he's so committed to this narrative...
Someone who throws around the threat of self harm/s*icide so recklessly in conversation as Boogie does is a severe manipulator and a very sick person. I've known people who've done that in the past - it's them attempting to force getting what they want under the threat of self harm if otherwise. He's crying that if people don't stop talking negatively and criticizing him he will commit s*icide. Very messed up.
He ruined Vidcon for a bunch of his friends/ fellow UA-camrs by constantly and nonchalantly saying he was going to kill himself afterwards and they got so worried for him not knowing it was a ploy for sympathy and attention
Something I learned as a young woman when I was in my 20s is that you cannot use your mental illness, your past traumas or the any of the shitty cards you were dealt in life as an excuse to not grow. If you constantly use your shortcomings as a crutch you will never mature. Everyone has shit EVERYONE is treated unfairly in some way or another. This grown ass man will never take responsibility for his own actions. He doesn’t want to change. He will never change.
I have a couple learning disabilities that made it really hard to get through high school and on top of that this other shit that made it hard. Hearing him use mental illnesses as an excuse is incredibly aggravating
I've literally gone through the same shit he has and recovered years ago, i'm half his age and moved on with my life. The fact he festers in it is astounding.
Christ, the abundance of smarm just drips from every syllable out of Boogie's mouth. You can tell he thought this was some 'got'cha!' moment, where he was going to subtly rip Tom a new one, while simultaneously keeping up his poor, 'woe is me' persona but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that he was trying to trap Tom. Asking him crap like if he was racist, etc. It's hilarious how much Boogie fumbles on the 'good guy' act, now that he's in such a desperate struggle to keep his head above whatever. He will act in any possible way that gets him the most attention. At this point, I don't even think Boogie knows who he is anymore.
I’ve never seen somebody weaponize their mental illness and their past as much as this guy. All of his counter arguments ended with “well my mental illness” “my brain capacity” “did you go through what I went through?” “I’m fat”
25:15 a deep exhale after boogie just said he can’t hold down a job because he will break down in tears and not be able to standup for 3 hours following that by saying he wants to do travel vlogs.
01:12:31 "I endangered the lives of myself, of that person, of my neighbors..." Considering he had full control of the weapon, Boogie is the *least* important in the sequence of people who could have been hurt by his "warning shot" antics and yet, he manages to list himself first. His complete and engrained lack of self awareness always manages to flummox me.
Honestly, overall on average Boogie did way better here than I thought he would. But holy shit Tom would be a savage prosecutor or a police interrogator.
"You're 21? So you're still a baby"
Boogie's Girlfriend is 20......
AHHHHHHHHHH
Oh no :s
And Tom is more mature than both of them by far
🤣 I audibly said “OH SHIT!!” LOL
so glad someone noticed
Who would have thought a 400 pound man could backpedal so much...
True
Just a random suggestion, but I think it’d be cool if you did a horror history on Art the Clown, if you ever feel inclined lol I enjoy your content man ! Keep up the great work !
😂😂😂 I love you CZsWorld
☠️☠️☠️☠️I’m weezing (like a 400 lbs man)
Wow I sure see you in the strangest places.
The heavy sighs from Tom were so palpable at the start, could audibly hear him bracing for the avalanche of self-absorbed pity and deflection lol
Didn't think I'd see you here lol
its the movie guy!
@@sporkles7427 Just doing everything I can to learn to not be the people who end up in Tom's vids. Turns out it's to touch grass and go to the gym
@@Saberspark you got a lot of work to do if you want to call yourself a grass toucher
Well well, if it isn't Saberfart
Boogie tries the 3 textbook manipulation tactics every time.
1. Deny
2. Deflect and shift blame
3. If all else fails, revert back to his mental health issues as a get out of jail free card.
There is ZERO awareness from this guy. Hes 48 so I doubt he'll change much.
You forgot:
Schmooze- fake kindness to make the other party feel guilty for holding you accountable
Obfuscate- spout so many lies so quickly it’s hard to zero in on all of them. It takes more energy to disprove a lie than to lie.
They get worse and worse with age.
I think you meant accountability@@ChristinaFromUA-cam
damn I don't like the guy but you're basically the same, completely ignoring how a bunch of times in this video he admits he was stupid, delusional, says he's a pussy, and in general comes off as honest without trying to shift blame or deny. He does all the things you mention as well a couple times, but clearly you're biased and ignore everything else
For sure.
Evidence of boogie’s lies:
“Oh well you see it wasn’t intentional it’s because I’m so mentally ill I was delusional, let me tell you a long anecdote about how mentally ill I am…”
Boogie: 21, so you’re just a baby
Also boogie: my 20 year old girlfriend is a grown woman
And looks like she’s 12
Boogie: "she looks like an adult... (catches himself) because she is an adult!"
You should target Leonardo DiCaprio as well, don't pick and choose. 😂
@@dannythykingg6191 target Leonardo di Caprio... on a video about boogie?
@leslieramirez8056 there both dating girls around 20 don't be a hypocrite. 💀
Tom: Boogie, please address this specific thing.
Boogie: Okay Tom let me tell you about how mentally ill and stupid I am. Also let me virtue signal about how I think so progressively.
He only acts progressive on his boogie account. I think Tom already pointed out that he has alt accounts.
His main tactic is to roll over and show his belly whenever someone criticizes him. It’s pretty pathetic.
@@LieutenantTickles bro went from "I hate tom and I dont want to give him clout" to "I love your videos I'm a big fan"
Hes so spineless
Boogie literally saw those "please be patient I'm retarded" hats/bumper stickers and made it his way of life.
@@thetruth619ful Boogie's first line of offense against people is to make them lower their guard, either by trying to flatter or by looking as pathetic as possible; when this fails is when he becomes either aggressive or starts to threaten with self deletion.
The title sounds like a 3AM vid.
[Gone Sexual]
Calling boogie at 3AM (gone sexual 😱)
Hahaha True
@@panther1911 schizo comment😮
@@panther1911 😱
Boogie seems addicted to making people feel sorry for him.
Munchausen Syndrome is a hell of a drug...
@@francisbinet4116 Food too, apparently.
It's ass-pats he's addicted to, that's what they're called in Boogie lore.
At least Boogie really IS 2,988 lb's. Tom isn't even a Turkey. Total fraud.
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 damn trueeee
In the first five minutes I noted:
1) Boogie putting Tom on a pedestal to appease him and be more "likable"
2) fast talking to not let another person have a lot to say
3) putting himself down and excuse his own behavior
4) tell his community that tom has made X number of videos to give the possibility of obsession
He also tried to control the narrative by restricting Tom to a certain set of topics designed massage Tam’s ego
No one's ever had it so bad, no one's ever been so mentally ill, so delusional, so autistic, so traumatized, so impulsive, so victimized.
Not ever, not once, not in this world.
I fall victim to thinking I’m the “perfect victim” like this and Boogie has helped me see just how absolutely ridiculous it is and how ridiculous I was also being
@@jordanaultman8423to some extent me as well 😂 glad UA-cam is filled with a lot of proper self improvement content (just learning from other's mistakes)
@@dermeisterdesspiegels3518 it is very interesting to be able to observe other’s falling down bad paths like this. Helpful but sure feels strange doesn’t it
@@jordanaultman8423 yeah mate, strange, innit?
Five minutes in, and I can already tell Boogie is just going to lie his way through this.
Just finished the video. Overall, Boogie hasn't changed in the slightest. He still embellishes the details of his stories, denies allegations towards him despite any evidence to proving that he's lying, but the worst is his overall defeatist attitude towards himself. Its insulting everytime he brings up his mental health as an excuse for his behavior consistently, but never details how he is trying to improve. It sounds less like a person struggling with their mental and physical health, and more like someone making excuses for trying to not improve. I think everyone can empathize with Boogie's story, but people aren't dumb and they can see when you're trying to mislead them.
damn i wish i got that far lol
It’s the same script he dose every time someone makes a video on him
Same exact time I’m at rn lol
Yup. I got a friend like this. He is also morbidly obese and a serial liar. He says it's just how his brain works and it makes him this way. Not a shred of accountability in his body and when backed into a corner will just say he doesn't care or something else that's defeatist.
It's especially jarring to watch him acknowledge and describe his maladaptive behavior AS HE'S DOING IT. Like, not once does he stop himself and consider making another choice. He doesn't even try. As someone who has also been through a ridiculous amount of therapy and is severely mentally ill... I think DBT would greatly benefit him.
Hearing boogie start off with “I know you’re not the biggest fan of me” after everything he said on Twitter is so jarring.
Gotta start with the self pity to soften his target up.
During this entire inerview he acted like a child that was just caught lying in from of his parents, even though Boogie can be Tom's father. He is over twice his age. What a humiliation.
Boogie can't admit when he lies which is always his issue
Peoples wired like Boogie dont grow up to become wise and honest adults, they "evolve" from little liars with a few tricks to outrageously dishonest hypocrites with no regards for the Truth. Yes, this is a severe mental illness, but talking HONESTLY with a mental health professional can heal pathology.
@@theoutsiderjess1869 100%, and god its so frustrating. He sits there and lies and when he’s called out on his lie, he just pities himself and pities himself and pities himself until the topic moves beyond the embarassing ass interactions where he just flat out lies, Tom calls it out and doesnt let him have any wiggle room to weasel out of accountability.
What a pathetic person.
Boogie: "You should be arrested or at least fined for misgendering."
Also Boogie: "I'm a libertarian."
I heard him say at the beginning he was liberal strictly because he was fat and needed government heath care... Working out wasn't a option.
Hypocrisy is pretty normal for libertarians. Most conservative libertarians, for example, want stuff like lgbt discussion censored.
@@hihihi1q23 I never saw that, what I did see is the desire of taking it out of school since it has nothing to do with education, can you give some examples of conservative libertarians that want to censor LGBT discussion?
@@382u3uuej they exist, but I agree with your statement for the most part
@@382u3uuejthink people sexualize attraction too much. i had crushes on girls before i even knew sex existed. i think these book bans and shit even from schools is gonna tell these kids that if they come out they’ll be seen as a pedofile/sex pest degenerate. there is a rampant pedofile problem in that community but it’s mostly because of the isolation. a lot are forced to hide their gay shit online and become addicted to being online.
Boogie twisting his porn blog years as 'working with individual girls' and then randomly lying about doing their photoshoots is one of the most unhinged things ever.
Boogie could literally avoid all his life problems if he just shuts up for once
He was probably never told no in his life.
And then what? He literally has nothing else other than social media. Lying and manipulation on social media IS his life.
@@sobsagand he's been doing worse for himself ever since he stopped shutting up. Clearly that's the problem.
@@sobsag He needs to get a job, but I doubt he would ever do that.
It's funny to watch boogie try to fabricate lies in real time while tom just effortlessly dismantles them
how this is going so far:
tom brings up something boogie did -> boogie tries to lie his way out of it or use semantics -> boogie tries to bring up something else in defense -> tom calls him out -> and so on
I could not imagine how tough it must be to talk to a person like boogie every day. Everything is a pity party with him, everything is about him.
He doesn't have a cat?
He's an energy vampire. I would imagine being in a relationship with him is mentally draining.
@@suitdoggy4707 That one video on him, "the black cup of narcissism" so beautifully represented the idea of the energy vampire by using the cup analogy.
I'm sure everyone around him hates him except for that mentally ill child he calls a girlfriend.
What an absolutely frustrating human being.
I LOVE how Tom doesn't let Boogie get away with ANYTHING. One slip-up from Boogie and Tom is on his ass. Its so good.
He is so lucky that Tom genuinely isn’t a hater. He was willing to give Tom access to his Twitter to “prove” there’s nothing to hide. Just like he was willing to send people his girlfriends ID, essentially doxxing her, just to prove she’s of age.
The only thing I saw him let slip was when boogie said something along the lines of "21 you're still a kid" near the beginning as though he isn't dating a 20 year old
@@ApacheHelicopter69the jokes write themselves
Yeah but then he just goes off on something smaller to make him not seem like a liar shits so lame
No one:
Boogie every 5 mins: No one can fathom the depths of my Mental Illness
20 minutes in and Boogie has literally hit every single boogie-ism that's been documented. This is truly a nightmare to listen to
And to think he's parading himself around as having turned over a new leaf.
@@theNEWMASKSdudexxx just another grift, its all cows know how to do. Comparing him to Wings and DSP and probably even the Ralphamale is very fitting.
@@nwerd7584I‘ve never felt bad for Dsp or boogie to be honest, I have felt bad for wings before.
@@quaygrass6212i havent tbh that guy is even worse than both combined if you go for depravity
Guy's a walking medical emergency apparently cringey as fuck.
Boogie has no idea that this interview made him look infinitely worse than any of Tom’s videos. The self flagellating is so unbelievably pathetic to listen to. SO MUCH CRYING AND COPING. THIS MAN IS ALMOST 50 YEARS OLD THIS IS UNREAL
All that therapy has rotted his brain. He copes hard and won’t improve as a person by justifying it with him having a bad childhood and mental illnesses. Tom is right about him being so defeatist.
@@crush5351 """Therapy""" in parenthesis
@@crush5351 He had no therapy.
He's a broken person and always has been. Never had a chance.
Tom even tells him he doesn't know why he wanted to do it and speculates that it will more likely than not do more harm than good.
listening to boogie make excuses in every single sentence is absolutely exhausting. I honestly can't believe how patient you were Tom.
How is Tom, a literal 21 year old infinitely more mature than Boogie who's more than twice his age
Raised properly by both parents who clesrly cared lol. Props to anyone who turns out honest and intelligent without that tho
I mean there are 5 year olds who are more mature than 80 year olds. Age doesnt necessarily mature a person
@@Synflood-dot-txtdepends on how they’re raised more than who raises them. My ex husband and I divorced when my son was less than a year old. We’ve been parenting from different coasts for 11 years. My son flies back and forth 2 times a year so we can have as close to equal custody as possible. He’s essentially had 4 parents for 70% of his life. He’s extremely well adjusted for a kid in a situation like that. Especially one who has a dad who is in the military and has deployed a lot.
Boogie could have turned out fine had his mother actually raised him. I don’t know all of his lore but I can believe that his dad wasn’t super involved when he was a kid if he really was a coal miner. They worked themselves to death back then.
I just don’t like to see single parents get a bad rep. It seems like they get stereotyped but nobody asks where the other parent was for them to end up being single. Sure, sometimes it’s parental alienation. But in my experience it’s usually that the other parent simply doesn’t want to be included. Regardless of what gender they are.
Life is different for all of us, I was extremely immature untill about 15-17 then all of a sudden I was a completey different person... thankfully I became sympathetic and mature
@@murphy1011because you think he is.. also you're 11 🤣
4:08 "I'm a slave to my own misfunctioning brain" is the fattest victim copium quote i've ever heard. Boogie just can't resist
@Possibly Layne Staley Guess his "misfunctioning brain" won't let him leave. What a way to basically disconnect all responsibility lmao
He pulls that shit like a get out of jail free card, he mentioned something at the start about wanting to be held accountable or some noise smh
I fucking hate when people use mental health as an excuse for their bullshit. I'm autistic and have adhd, I don't use it as an excuse for being an asshole
Poor decision making is literally brain misfunction, ya dummy.
@Matttttttttttttt many people have "misfunctioning brains" you can take responsibility and try to make the best out of a bad situation, or you can be like boogie and wallow in self-pity. He wants to be mentally ill so bad. He doesn't care about getting better whatsoever
He went in a constant cycle of accusing you of misinformed Bs, then blaming it on not being informed, then saying it was because of his mental health.
He literally pulls stuff out of his ass. Like he keeps bringing up “points” from Tom’s video on him but half the points he makes aren’t even in the video lmao. He didn’t do his research.
Watching boogie justify himself by saying I don’t have good brain power, disabled, my mind is so bad. It hurt to watch
That's Boogie for you: his body, mind and bank account have the amazing capability to change at will whenever he needs to.
He's dumb until someone criticizes his smarts, then he becomes a super genius.
He's poor until someone mocks him about it and then he suddenly has a million in the bank.
He's perfectly sane and healthy until someone questions his actions and suddenly he's extremely ill and with every mental illness of the book
I've suffered depression and anxiety most of my life, and I've still been able to go to school, hold down a job, maintain relationships, and live a mostly normal life despite my problems. Mental illness can make it incredibly difficult to live a productive life, but it's never an excuse to give up and not try.
@@sporkles7427 oh wow your soo special hey look everyone this person has depression and anxiety it must be true they said so on the internet.
whats your problem
@@sporkles7427Based, good shit on taking control of it.
Holy fuck, the part when he was like "you called me racist" and then you were like "uh no" and his response was "oh I didn't catch the whole video my brain is broken :(((" holy jesus, such cowardice. Takes a shot hoping it would land and when he doesn't he just reverts to "feel sorry for me"
He said he spent all day preparing for this interview but couldn’t be bothered to watch the video
Boogie: I couldn’t work for anyone I have no skills!!
Also Boogie: I taught myself html and learned how to make websites and did that for many people!
Man’s a whole pathological liar. He knows it too.
He is not autistic.
Anyone dating this man: run.
He may be autistic, can’t say one way or the other, but he is definitely a habitual liar. He thrives on it. He is likely a terrible partner 😂
Too late...
Teaching yourself something means you lack official qualifications. You are a nitwit
@@garysanders8350if you can teach yourself the skill you can get a qualification
He had me at.
Boogie: Do you believe I'm emotionally abusive?
Tom: I don't know probably.
Boogie: So look here I'm autistic so-
Not ounce of accountablity
Boogie spent the entire time making excuses, he's never learned that not only is it wrong, but that everyone see's through it.
The videos only been out 15 minutes or so. There's NO WAY you watched the whole thing, but you're dead on.
@@JSowder21 , but you're dead on is so good 😂
@@p-nk7031 that's what I'm saying, bro couldn't have watched the whole video, but called it. I did see though boogie did upload this video yesterday, so dude could have seen the video yesterday.
@@JSowder21 You dont need to watch the video to call the obvious. Boogie is a well known master manipulator and extremely lazy. He is very predictable now as well.
It’s like what chuck said to jimmy in better call Saul he’ll never change and always be slippin jimmy or in this case bullshit boogie
This is like watching a JCS interrogation docu where the accused won't stop incriminating themselves or call a lawyer.
that would be a legendary video if jcs got his hands on this video and the idea
Imagine boogie joins the call with a lawyer
i need jcs to come back
i liked when boogie2988 said "its time to boogie" and then boogied all over the redditors
LMFAOAOAO
@@trippieverra yaya
Splooosh!
@@kinghenry7058 splishsplash
His skin folds slapping against his blubberbelly like a seal, hundreds of times every moment.
As a fan of Boogie from the olden days, it fucking hurts to see him become the professional victim he is now. It’s like watching a friend go down a dark path.
it sucks to see anyone like this. It makes me the most sad because he is a middle aged man. It's a bummer
A Dark Tom path.
Anybody who says “I’m just stupid! I’m a big ole dummy! I just keep failing into situations that a normally intelligent person would not fail into!” Instantly sets off alarms in my head. I am sure there’s a word for this. Maybe some form of projection. But it basically acts as a way to differ blame by denying having any agency. They are abusing a persons inclination to believe the old saying “never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence.” I don’t have an over all point to end this comment but its just something I wish you’d called out. You did a great job in general of calling him out on BS though.
Everytime he gets caught in a lie, he tries to pivot to emotional manipulation.
Yeah, I've met someone who kept on simply blaming their actions on being emotional without acknowledging the fact that they still made conscious decisions to act the way they did. I don't think deflecting is the right term but it definitely feels like they're redirecting the responsibility away from them. Perhaps it'd be better to say that they're downplaying the extent of their accountability to their actions.
Boogie is incapable of taking accountability. If there's no one to blame in a situation, he plays the mental health card (I have PTSD, I was disassociating, I have anxiety) or simply plays the "I'm an idiot" / "My brain doesn't work so good" card. For someone who acknowledges that they're an idiot, he sure does spend a great deal of time trying to twist around all of the criticisms levied at him. Perhaps getting off social media or distancing himself from the internet is the best course of action, but no. He won't do that because he hides behind the guise of helping others or not wanting the trolls to win. He is insane and beyond help.
I agree with all of you, to me it feels like he’s fawning. Boogie’s constant self deprecation, and rolling over, and giving up, while constantly (and poorly) praising Tom for no reason is hard to watch.
He doesn’t want help, he wants to be right :/
You have no idea how long I've held a similar observation of people for years. There has to be a term for it!
Unbelievable that he calls himself a libertarian right after proposing fines for speech. He's right about being delusional.
Proposing fines for speaking the OBJECTIVE, EVIDENCE-BASED TRUTH (that Keffals and Dylan Mulvany are men, for eg), and then shifting goal-posts,to saying that's totally the same thing as yelling racial slurs at someone.
I think what I've learned so far is Boogie is a coward and will change his opinion to fit whatever is going on
@@againsttheleftandright4065 true, although you still can suffer the consequences of saying them. you'll get beat up, socially chastised, exiled from friend groups, etc.
I thought he was a progressive
He cant be held accountable cause "it's some issue with his brain"
He straight up forfeit his credibility to anything he says
Any attempt at such a convo like this wil just be circle jerking, leading nowhere.
His entire stream was literally "um im literally neurodivergent and a minor???" except he's 50. Also "justifying delusions" thats not how delusions work. Delusions are being convinced what you think IS REAL. If you know what you think is fake but you still act on it, its not a delusion.
100%. That's just called lying.
he established that he is mentally ill and low iq from the start, just so he can use it as a shield later and avoid giving explanations for his mistakes, its weaponized incompetence
did something wrong? i was delusional sorry
Delusions happen during psychosis or extreme manic episodes and theyre dangerous as they lead sufferer to believe they are above human, being persecuted, connected to the divine, etc. when boogie is describing is just being a douche.
The change in boogies tone and demeanor after HE starts HIS recording is such a stark difference, goes to show that once he feels like hes in control and has his own recording that he can spin and edit in favor of him that confidence rises
I love how he’s like: “Tom, you don’t understand. My brain is broken, I’m crazy, I can help myself from doing crazy shit because I’m delusional.” as an excuse and then two seconds later he’s like: “Tom, who would do that? For me to do that my brain would have to be broken, I’d have to be crazy, it’d be like I can’t help myself from doing crazy shit because I’m delusional. Is that what you’re accusing me of Tom?
It amuses me how nothing is ever Boogie's fault. He's never the bad guy. There's a reason he's a LOLCOW. Glad he's basically irrelevant now.
Holy shit that level of no self-accountability is UNREAL
Stop being a meanie! He's disabled
@@TannerisSmol97 *disabled and morbidly obese with this brain and this body 😤
Bro, it wasn't him. It was his BRAIN. Totally different person
Geez can't you tell the difference between Boogie and his brain? smh
Gotta respect Tom for calling people out for their BS, unlike Ian Padilla. Tom should do more interviews they make for great content
Yep tom is knarly just sitting back, not even being mean just saying how it is
It's Anthony and Anthony's video isn't to call people out but to get to know them and show what they do
Lmao Ian padilla
@@theoutsiderjess1869 it's Ian Padilla now, nothing you can do will change my mind and his interviews are boring except for a few mid ones. Imagine if Tom interviewed Idubbz instead of Ian that would have made great content instead of what we got.
@@Mrmatthew4338for real he didn't give a f
It seems like a lot of people still think Boogie hates himself, but it’s the opposite. I believe Boogie loves himself so much that any inconvenience or bad luck that befalls him is a personal attack against him. He truly believes he only deserves good things because he is the best person, the kindest, the most empathetic. The only reason he puts himself down so much is because he doesn’t believe it. Boogie’s entire existence is focused on just himself. Even in this interview, he didn’t ask Tom anything that didn’t directly relate to him. He is so unbelievably insufferable
This aged well after the doc
well said
Dunning Kruger Effect incarnate
Boogie 100% has a fetish for humilating himself, notice how he screams "i'm so embarrassed! Pity me!" nonstop
boogie describing lack of empathy as autism is crazy
To be fair, some people on the spectrum can struggle with empathy, most commonly aspergers syndrome
@@dapswazzack yes Thats a good point and i made the comment before he said he finally got diagnosed properly! Still though boogie is suspect for lying so who knows
@@akedi2734 true
@Orkhiss I didn't know that, thank you for enlightening me
@@dapswazzack it's not not so much struggling having it, but to some just hard time showing it
Respect to Tom for confronting him head on whenever he blatantly tries to lie
Did Boogie never air this episode because he gets fuckin eviserated.
@@EricDrinksWater Yep.
Yeah but they he says he plays fortnite so its impossible to respect him :(
Damn, Tom really knows how to stand his ground during these discussions.
Easy when you stand on truth, you don’t have to make up stories or excuses.
Boogie is a fantastic liar
You mean stick to his assumptions? He literally lied himself about bringing up racial jokes. Neither of these people looked good in this interview
@@teddasaurusrex2158 alright boogie
@@nickydee569 not really lol
Tom has the patience of an absolute saint.
No, he's just a normal dude...
You beat me to it lol
@Gadfly333 tbh, I wouldn't blame anyone for just being like: Boogie, it's been 30 minutes of looping foolery, I'm out.
Tom stuck it out
tom by the end looks like he was listening to his drunk dad
Respect to tom for immediately calling him out about his fake twitter accounts lmfao
Boogie: You have made some racist jokes before
Tom: yes
Tom: you have made some racist jokes before
Boogie: well… Tom have you ever been mentally challenged before? You see my brain is wir-
Tom: I actually have evidence that you've made a shit ton of racist jokes in the past-
Boogie: Are you racist Tom? Why do you feel comfortable making those sorts of jokes?
@@theNEWMASKSdudexxx Any sane person: because jokes are jokes and jokes are funny.
I hate how whenever he's being criticized he always talks about "my brain" to create this level of separation from his shitty behaviors. Bitch YOU ARE YOUR BRAIN. Stop acting like you're this innocent, powerless bystander victim to your brain that has zero control
Everything Boogie gets caught doing becomes “well my mental health made me do it. It’s a miracle I can feed myself”
Uggh... Jokes aren't racist, they're jokes. Racial humor is not "racist" humor, it is simply humor involving race. Now that the term "racist joke" is so common in today's lexicon, the term "racist" has been permanently diluted
Boogie calling himself a libertarian a minute after he said he’d lock people up for misgendering people. 😂
What boogie is describing is libertinism.
No, it's Boogieism.
Never thought i would ever seen a 20 year old ripping a 40 year old a new one lmfao this kid is shredding him lol imma look at this interview in preparations for when my son argues with me at that age lmfao
Just being blunt and to the front. Good old honest confrontation lol people are too scared to do that even if their loved ones would benefit from hearing it
I will say, as people get older they mess up more, and bad habits form.
As bad habits form, it becomes normal and you don’t see anything wrong with it.
A young person will usually have less baggage, and it truly is easier to judge and pick at flaws.
While I believe this to be true, boogie is still insufferable and a chameleon.
the fact that he called a 21 year old a baby but is now dating a 19 year old
Tom stands his ground with the confidence of a man that has done his research and can not be gaslit. If only all interviewers were as well informed about their subjects.
Toms complete neutral expression whenever Boogie giggles like a Hyena.
I feel that.
I feel that hard.
It looks really fucking akward
He's trying to be friendly and manipulate him into liking him so he can ensnare him in his spider web of fat guy lies. While also being passive aggressive.
He wants Tom to like him and be his friend so bad. His attempts at being friendly and affable to a guy who literally doesn't give a fuck beyond a baseline level of respect is cringey to watch. It's sad to watch because Steven is so much older than Tom. This big 'ol man is trying SO hard to win the approval of a guy fresh out of his teens.
@@michaelhernandez7978 And funny enough, he's the worst person to try this due to how straight up unlikeable he is. Him saying "we can play games together sometime" made me side eye the shit out of Casper next to me
Talking with boogie seems like such a chore. He just talks in circles, trying to gaslight you, over and over again.
He says he made 30k max a month - but i remember him getting a 50k mouth surgery for 1 video.
"No, no, no I never said THAT, I actually said ____!(different wording that doesn't seem as bad)
He talks in circles to make up for the fact that he can't run in circles.
So boogie's latest excuse for being abusive is that he's actually having an "autistic meltdown" instead.
Oh, I lied? I was being delusional. Oh, I was being abusive? I was actually having an autistic meltdown.
It's incredible that he thinks anyone could buy this nonsense, dude has absolutely no shame.
Boogie: I'm socially libertarian
Also Boogie: I think you should be arrested for saying certain words.
Btw Boogie, being taken by the cops IS being arrested. The words you are looking for is "I don't think they should be charged". And yes. Yes you do.
Stop using political terms you don't understand. You are neither liberal nor libertarian.
Boogie deflects everything to his mental illness and being delusional but he's perfectly cognizant. He's completely aware of his situation but still chooses to play the victim. Pathologically lying as naturally as he breathes.
Starting off great. Big man: "I don't have fake accounts" Small boy: "yes you do, yes you do" funniest shit I've seen all week.
Iv never seen someone reveal the truth by trying to divert and lie so much during one conversation. Boogie makes me sick.
This was painfully embarrassing. The pitty baiting was way too much
Oh boy the good old "You shout 'fire!' in a theater" argument. What a mental titan Boogie is.
This is way too underrated. Completely unbiased, boogie just proved every point in tom’s video. It’s astonishing how boogie quite literally can’t take accountability for anything
Every time Tom has him dead to rights he immediately goes to "my brain is fucked." This man could not take accountability if his life depended on it.
Listening to Boogie complain about not being able to work a job is infuriating. I’m a convicted felon who fucked up my life due to a DUI crash that resulted in serious injuries. Trying to get job is seriously difficult for me, but I’m not complacent in my situation, and want to become a functioning member of society.
Good luck, dude. It doesn’t seem easy, but keep trying. You’ll find opportunities if you keep trying.
Hey man, we're behind you in this. I'm glad that you really want to try and be in society in a positive way.
I truly hope the best for you brother. Keep trying to do better, you have this comment sections support
Good luck bro hold on that good attitude you got his 💪💪💪
At least you learnt your lesson and an innocent person wasn’t killed. Well, I’m assuming they weren’t. Maybe Boogie’s only chance of sympathy is a DUI.
I deal Major Depressive Disorder & I can understand Boogies lack of accountability & self-depracation but if he's really going to therapy I 150% doubt his therapist is enabling his behavior. He keeps saying him & the therapist "agree" on his blaming his shit behavior on XYZ & that makes me doubt hes seeking any form of therapy whatsoever. Therapy is all about self-accountability. Once you stop playing the woah is me all the time & start taking steps to get better mentally, you quickly realize that your your own worst enemy & tend to blame all your faults on other people/things.
He's probably required to go to anger management/therapy for his felony probation, but there's no way he could benefit from therapy. He has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, you can't really treat that.
The therapist would ask why he lies and manipulated and offer to fix it, and he would not ever admit to being the person he really is.
He ain't doing any therapy.
Nawh, most therapists nowadays are self indulged schizos who became therapists to fix themselves and at this point they are the worst thing you can possibly do to try and take accountability for yourself.
Boogie weaponizing his therapist through the autism diagnosis is a pretty good example of talk therapy being not only useless for people like boogie, but it in fact gives them insight and tools to further manipulate.
Boogie: "I'm socially Libertarian really"
Also Boogie: "We should fine people and put them in jail for mean words"
Lol
Lmao even
Didnt he retract that statement? The though I do understand how hypocritical he is 😓
Socially libertarian doesn’t even mean anything lmao. I swear Boogie is just a liberal dude or like a leftist
@Sanchez.Basado he's a weak man, so yes😂
He don't belive in anything just whatever people around him think. If it was popular to say kill POC he'd champion how morally virtuous it is to do so.
I’ve never seen a man use more excuses for why he should not do anything. I have a hard time feeling bad for him, but wow it’s sad.
I listened to this the other day on Boogies channel and it was devastating for him. He says some outlandish shit and then goes "muh mental health! people dont understand what i deal with.." when proven wrong.
It's the lolcow defense when they can't admit things. Same as DSP. "That was my depression!"
Boogie is the laziest person on the planet.
That lie about the dates of the "weaponised welfare checks" makes zero sense.. Its crazy talk.
ye he deleted it too
tom sometimes makes some wild points in his vids, but i literally LOVE how direct you are with him, it seems like EVERYONE in the commentary community are all talk but once confronted with the person they criticize they backpedal so hard but you actually call him out on his shit in the first second, like boogie was testing how much bs he can get away with you, but you held your ground
toms reaction to boogie trying to bait him over which mutual was talking shit lmaooo "ok"
With all the back-pedalling Boogie does, you'd think he'd be super fit! 😅😅
I love how Tom is holding Boogie accountable and calling out his lies. Watching Boogie lie his way through this interview was like watching a train wreck.
I need Tom's patience bc I'm losing my head listening to this dude's therapy session 😂😂
So damn stupid and ill-advised for Boogie to reach out to you and ask YOU to interview HIM. Seriously what kind of shit IS that??? If he's the one reaching out and making the initial contact then HE should be the one to bring up the points of discussion instead of expecting you to have questions for him. Add that to the fact that he didn't even bother to actually WATCH your video about him, he's reacting to it based on tweets he's seen from others about it and he himself having just skimmed it. How he still has any fans left that support his decisions and behavior is a true mystery.
The sunk cost fallacy, my friend. Sinking so much time into a relationship or endeavor that you're hesitant to believe the worst and cut ties. I see so many of Boogie's remaining fans state that they've been fans for X amount of years and I believe that's the reason they choose to ignore the mounting evidence against him.
Boogie's defense is "I am retarded though"
Only 4 minutes in and Boogie is already acting like kid who just got caught in a lie by their parents. Except Tom is like half Boogie's age. The amount of secondhand embarrassment I'm feeling is indescribable.
Edit : LOL just saw Boogie unlisted his upload of the interview. What an ACTUAL manchild holy shit.
No kids aren't this aggressive with lying he's just an adult sociopathic pos
"Everything that has ever happened to me isn't my fault, and it's impossible for me to improve my life.... But please feel bad for me" I swear Boogie is insufferable
I don't watch Boogie enough but he sounds like a covert narcissist, it's too long to describe but it does make sense since he lies so much, he always victimizes himself and he always deflects all blame, notice that he never attributes his faults to himself, it's always "my messed up brain", "autism", "low IQ", etc. It's always things that he can't control, it reminds me of how Chris Chan says that his only fault is having autism (which means he would be perfect without it).
Being a covert narcissist almost makes sense in the context of him being abused as a child, since narcissism is created during childhood when the abused child suffers some sort of abuse which makes him replace the real self with an omnipotent false self, that way the abused child escapes the feelings of impotence by creating a personality that is omnipotent (like escaping to a fantasy world). Boogie is always fishing for compliments, lying and manipulating people around him to get what he wants, it makes sense that he is a covert narc for what I have seen of him, but as I said I haven't watched him a lot since I'm not that interested in this obese pathetic manchild.
Freedom of speech is so important I appreciate that Tom fully believes in it
“I’m ready for someone to hold me accountable for my mistakes”
When someone holds him accountable for his mistake: well now wait hold on a second
I hope that someone in my life cares enough to be as forward with me as Tom was with Boogie.
That's a damn good point. It's almost impossible for us to be objectively self critical and we really need people in our lives to tell us point blank when we're acting stupid or selfish.
historically haven't cared less about Boogie, but this saga with Tom has gotten me invested...this is just sad. Like he's repulsive and vile with all this deflection and gaslighting, but it's so pathetic that he's so committed to this narrative...
Someone who throws around the threat of self harm/s*icide so recklessly in conversation as Boogie does is a severe manipulator and a very sick person. I've known people who've done that in the past - it's them attempting to force getting what they want under the threat of self harm if otherwise. He's crying that if people don't stop talking negatively and criticizing him he will commit s*icide. Very messed up.
This
He ruined Vidcon for a bunch of his friends/ fellow UA-camrs by constantly and nonchalantly saying he was going to kill himself afterwards and they got so worried for him not knowing it was a ploy for sympathy and attention
Before SamandTolki got shutdown for 'bullying', there was a huge megathread with everything he has done and he still DENIES a lot of it.
The instant smile and “Yes you doooo, yes you do.” when he brought up the twitter accounts thing was SO funny 🤣🤣
Something I learned as a young woman when I was in my 20s is that you cannot use your mental illness, your past traumas or the any of the shitty cards you were dealt in life as an excuse to not grow. If you constantly use your shortcomings as a crutch you will never mature. Everyone has shit EVERYONE is treated unfairly in some way or another. This grown ass man will never take responsibility for his own actions. He doesn’t want to change. He will never change.
@prismo1428 Wise words, Wise words
Well said! Best wishes from Australia 🇦🇺 ❤
Love how much he struggles to ask anything about you. Man cannot pretend for 10 seconds that this whole thing was about anything but himself lol
On his podcast on his own channel no less. It's hard for a narcissist to care about anyone else
Do you still thirst for the Light to this day, Sylok?
@@thehale_ you know it bb 🤪🥵
I really enjoy how Tom is just pointing shit out without any attempt to make it sound soft or whatever.
I have a couple learning disabilities that made it really hard to get through high school and on top of that this other shit that made it hard. Hearing him use mental illnesses as an excuse is incredibly aggravating
I can't believe he actually said that he can call himself the R slur because he's neurodivergent, and then clarified he meant autism specifically.
I've literally gone through the same shit he has and recovered years ago, i'm half his age and moved on with my life. The fact he festers in it is astounding.
Christ, the abundance of smarm just drips from every syllable out of Boogie's mouth. You can tell he thought this was some 'got'cha!' moment, where he was going to subtly rip Tom a new one, while simultaneously keeping up his poor, 'woe is me' persona but it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that he was trying to trap Tom. Asking him crap like if he was racist, etc. It's hilarious how much Boogie fumbles on the 'good guy' act, now that he's in such a desperate struggle to keep his head above whatever. He will act in any possible way that gets him the most attention. At this point, I don't even think Boogie knows who he is anymore.
Damn Tom huge props for actually confronting him and not just going along with whatever he says in the moment like most people would have
Boogie tries so hard to seem like a kind innocent person
I’ve never seen somebody weaponize their mental illness and their past as much as this guy. All of his counter arguments ended with “well my mental illness” “my brain capacity” “did you go through what I went through?” “I’m fat”
25:15 a deep exhale after boogie just said he can’t hold down a job because he will break down in tears and not be able to standup for 3 hours following that by saying he wants to do travel vlogs.
He let several of them sighs
01:12:31 "I endangered the lives of myself, of that person, of my neighbors..." Considering he had full control of the weapon, Boogie is the *least* important in the sequence of people who could have been hurt by his "warning shot" antics and yet, he manages to list himself first. His complete and engrained lack of self awareness always manages to flummox me.
he probably knows he never serviced that gun and it can blow up in his hand.
He will never miss a chance to make himself the victim.
Turkey Tom: Calls Boogie out on the dumb shit he’s said.
Boogie: Muh Brain ain’t right
Honestly, overall on average Boogie did way better here than I thought he would. But holy shit Tom would be a savage prosecutor or a police interrogator.
Calling out boogie on his lying/self victimizing isn’t really that impressive.
Same thing as usual with boogie. It’s never his fault, something else in the world is always a reason for his actions
Put a nickel in the jar every time he uses "You haven't had my experiences or mental condition" as a deflection.
He calls Tom a baby when his GF is younger than him.
LMFAO
It's like a tsunami of bullshit
Haaa, astutely worded.