He would still need to win that first game against purple rank players over 50% of the time to get promoted to Fujin. Nah, that dude is rank boosting somehow.
I'm still watching as I comment but I'm already impressed and educated by this This is good content .I was already aware of you but I'd not been previously aware of PHIDX. You two compliment each other well. The banter is great. I was entertained. I'll definitely check out his content.
What I have learned from this video and my own ranked experience in this game is that ranked is all over the place and it might not work as intended lol
Some of these are hard to figure out because if both players were still on the climb to plateau then they aren’t actually playing at a level of the rank they are being viewed at in the replay. Say they caught me playing when I was going through the greens I would not be playing at a green skill level. That’s why
I had assumed the Paul was a more experienced player cause he did do some things a totally new player wouldn't. A big one was that he blocked a get up kick and then tried go punish it with b1,2. So that told me he played T7 and knew get kick ups were unsafe in that game, but wasn't aware that they were safe in this one. He broke a throw (just 1 of them, but it was a 1+2 and he did break it) He TRIED to adjust his combos for the wall. They didn't work out, but a new player wouldn't even bother. There were aigned he had an idea of what he wanted to do, but ultimately got ran over by Victor likely being too new to him.
There's so many factors that play into somebody's rank in Tekken that I honestly just kinda don't pay attention to them most of the time lol Some people are lower rank because they've got good combos, but bad fundies so they can't land them Some people are higher rank because they're carried by a gimmicky character or strong, annoying moves Some people are Azucena Some people just throw the movelist at you and rank up because they confuse their opponent to death Some people are low rank in Tekken 8, but they've played a lot of Tekken 7 or other previous Tekken Some people have varying ranks between consoles and platforms Some people just know certain characters really well and are able to punish them more effectively There's just a lot that goes into it. I've legit run into Fujins that have no idea what they're doing and Oranges that play better than the Tekken Gods I fought in T7
This is exactly what i got into tekken for. My friends and i would always play winner gets to fuck your character up and make them lok embarrassing. Genius premise for content and also adding that stake of fucking up the losers fit. Love it.
I managed to only guess the Jun vs King one perfectly. The Jun actually did a pretty advanced combo at 19:46 that no low rank is getting. The standing 4 into ff2 is pretty tight execution wise.
The format is good but you should pick games where people dont have custom health bars, the jun vs king game for exapmple, that specific health bar you unlock at i belive mighty ruler so its very easy to guess
The rank variance is due to character variance...... I have fought so many tryhard Bryans who make me sweat in the Yellow ranks but then I fight dumb Lars players in Purple who spam the same combos....... I think knowledge checks really carries a lot of characters to high ranks.
The first fujin video threw everything outta whack lol. But the thing about tekken 8 ranks is that it's so easy to promote and demote that if you're having a good day or if all the opponents you're facing are just unfamiliar with your character then you could make it pretty high in the ranks even if you're just flow charting
Wow, I was actually pretty accurate on most of these. I think it was because I focused more on the players movement rather than move choice. The only one that really threw me off was the Law/Hworang match. I guessed way way lower on that one.
Honestly, regrding the statement at 1:58 I feel like brand new/newer players are equally, if not more likely to find some cool custom ideas online to show off in ranked
First match; fujin and sweating with Jin since T7 and usually they're very proficient players. No way those two were Fujin, no duck punish on Paul strings and not one break on that 1+2, I'm fuming in laughter 😂😂😂
I'm going to update and guess as I go along. As of writing this very first comment, I have accurately assessed the skill level of the players in the first match. I really did guess Blue Ranks. 😎My clues were that a Throw was broken seriously on reaction, and the way they Sidestepped off the wall to realign, that is a legitimate high level skill. They were performing attacks with intentionality. This doesn't really happen outside of strings in low ranks. Attacks with serious intentionality only occurs at around Red Ranks and onwards. This was clearly a Paul Player who had some experience but wasn't familiar with the Victor Matchup. 1st Match - Guess: Blue Ranks Answer: Blue Ranks My reasoning for guessing Purple Ranks was because the Jack Player knew how to Mixup after Blocking, that is not a skill that is readily apparent to players who are of a lower skill level. They did a lot of mashing, but I think these players are Purple Ranks for the Jack-8 vs Azucena Match. 2nd Match - Guess: Purple Ranks Answer: Yellow Ranks Way off 😭Maybe it's harder to guess than I originally thought. I'm guessing the King Ditto is occuring in Red Ranks due to the level of control they have over their characters, but inability to recognise situations. This looks pretty clearly like Red Ranks to me, but we'll see. 🤔 3rd Match - Guess: Red Ranks Answer: Green Ranks This shit is *WAY* harder than I thought 😭I got lucky on the first call I guess. But I suppose there was more clear data to expose the Paul and Victor as being high level than in the two Matches right after. Orange Ranks for Kuma vs Lars. I won't spend the brain power thinking too hard about it. 4th Match - Guess: Orange Ranks Answer: Yellow Ranks Alright, not too far off, but I wasn't right.
@@tylermartin7245 You should be glad, that means there are lots of new players coming to your game. Its inflating people's ranks, because anyone whose played Tekken before has a significant advantage. Be nice to the noobs and teach them, that's how the scene grows.
the kuma vs lars game lars didnt raw rage art. He probably wanted to press it and was watching the special style. you can see it flash and then lars inputs
watching it rn and nailing the first one was super easy, i KNEW they were exactly Fujin for a reason, never in teh match Victor pressed 2, it means that he KNOWS his movelist and has enough skill to not give in the primal impulse to mash 2
"Okay, I have learned the combos, I am now safe to go into online and beat some noobs!" That poor Lars labbed the combos to get bodied by a special style bear omg this is hilarious and sad at the same time xD
You don't actually have to manually input RA if you're using special style. It will automatically use it at the end of your air combo if you have rage. Crazy to me that people making all of these Tekken 8 videos don't know this stuff.
33:50 I found that low rank reinas are gods at electrics, but their overall offense is lacking hence the raw df2, no ff2, no hell sweeps, no mix, but insane electrics.
Naw whaaat that first video i was already shocked how are they Fujin!?!?! I'm over here stuck in Tenryu, Mighty Ruler... why aren't none of my match ups like this lmao
Omg I'm so gassed that I was close on the first one with victor. I thought Raijin. I didn't realise at this point that both players rank had to be the same. I was thinking battle ruler for the Paul.
I guessed Fujin correctly for the first one because the Paul's punishment in the first match against Victor was optimized and you don't see that in red and below
As a first-time Tekken player who just broke into red ranks, I was playing along and I did so much better than them and was only not close on one of them. I guess I empathize a lot more with low rank players like me and so I can get a good read.
I haven’t gone into ranked since hitting late yellows cuz my friends said red is where it gets hard and I wanna hold my 90% winrate. That first clip inspired me to queue up
I know they didnt show the names but I agree with PhidX for match 6 I called that sweaty King gameplay as Jesandy immediately. (If i had to guess I would call the Asuka Kingreyjr or someone similar of that level).
im a total noob steve main that is 24,000 in brawler rn I match with people who know 10 hit combos but cant dodge a steve 121 the biggest noob tell are people who dont side step even once in a match this was super fascinating to watch id love to see this again once ranked evens out and everyone settles in their ranks
@@fleepity I’m at bushin and I just throw it out a ton, i think it’s worth trying just to see when it works and when it doesn’t. Universally if an opponent runs at you from like range 5 you should do a step when they get close. If it doesn’t work, then note the move that hit you and think if there’s another counter to that move
I can't sidestep to save my life at purple. But my excuse is I play on PS5 (trying to get rid of PS5 controller). You literally can't sidestep on PS5 because the pad is so incosistent when figuring between a hold or tap
Thank you for having me! This was insane lmaooo
How did we not get Dora The Explorer LOL
@@Diaphone 🤣
Omg i was wondering that!! Haha like she even had the backpack!
Nice video
We need more of this!
Both of them missing the "Dora the Explorer" costume mix-up is the biggest L.
It’s a bad Dora costume 😂
Hilarious. Thank you. I needed that laugh.
Big baby boomers
@@goose-gz2ik lol yup
That's a horrible dora costume mehn
Congrats on 100k! 🎉❤
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Thanks Goat ❤
MASKU
why dont you shutup hella scrupman, masku
That's so funny, I love that the editor put the fake-outs in the rank reveal cause it is so hard to guess lol
The editor trolling with the rank is so good
That victor is 100% a plugger
nah victor just carries hard i got fujin in 2 days lol
the fake-outs in the rank reveal were so hype, lmao. nice touch, editor!!!
That fujin Victor is 100% a one-and-donner theres no way.
Tbh he was ducking the highs properly, that told me he was atleast decent. Maybe they were both on their sub chars
There’s massive rank inflation atm
My guess was Garyu and that was being generous lmao when i saw Fujin my jaw dropped
He would still need to win that first game against purple rank players over 50% of the time to get promoted to Fujin.
Nah, that dude is rank boosting somehow.
@edgelord it's not sub chars because Tekken prowess is right
That Azucena in match 2 was Dora the Explorer lmao
😅
I had no idea the editors put together the rank reveal animation, thats actually crazy. Props to them!
I'm still watching as I comment but I'm already impressed and educated by this This is good content .I was already aware of you but I'd not been previously aware of PHIDX. You two compliment each other well. The banter is great. I was entertained. I'll definitely check out his content.
What I have learned from this video and my own ranked experience in this game is that ranked is all over the place and it might not work as intended lol
Love that both of you of collabing!
Some of these are hard to figure out because if both players were still on the climb to plateau then they aren’t actually playing at a level of the rank they are being viewed at in the replay. Say they caught me playing when I was going through the greens I would not be playing at a green skill level. That’s why
The king mirror, when you saw the dude eat the alley kicks… telltale sign it was either a green or low yellow rank
I had assumed the Paul was a more experienced player cause he did do some things a totally new player wouldn't.
A big one was that he blocked a get up kick and then tried go punish it with b1,2. So that told me he played T7 and knew get kick ups were unsafe in that game, but wasn't aware that they were safe in this one.
He broke a throw (just 1 of them, but it was a 1+2 and he did break it)
He TRIED to adjust his combos for the wall. They didn't work out, but a new player wouldn't even bother.
There were aigned he had an idea of what he wanted to do, but ultimately got ran over by Victor likely being too new to him.
Guessing Rank in YTekken is much harder over SF
The match up knowledge is so important, I feel like most people, especially at lower ranks are in like a 9 rank band
@@El-Burrito what do you mean by 9 rank band? im genuinely curious (english is my 2nd language)
Probably would be way easier in tekken 7
@@isaiahtee9846English is my native language and i dont know what the fuck that means, don’t feel bad
@@isaiahtee9846 probably meant that they are all within a band (or range) of about 9 ish ranks of each other.
The Azucena custom in the Match 2 is Dora The Explorer, @Diaphone
The best fighting game series of all time is back on the menu
There's so many factors that play into somebody's rank in Tekken that I honestly just kinda don't pay attention to them most of the time lol
Some people are lower rank because they've got good combos, but bad fundies so they can't land them
Some people are higher rank because they're carried by a gimmicky character or strong, annoying moves
Some people are Azucena
Some people just throw the movelist at you and rank up because they confuse their opponent to death
Some people are low rank in Tekken 8, but they've played a lot of Tekken 7 or other previous Tekken
Some people have varying ranks between consoles and platforms
Some people just know certain characters really well and are able to punish them more effectively
There's just a lot that goes into it. I've legit run into Fujins that have no idea what they're doing and Oranges that play better than the Tekken Gods I fought in T7
This is exactly what i got into tekken for. My friends and i would always play winner gets to fuck your character up and make them lok embarrassing. Genius premise for content and also adding that stake of fucking up the losers fit. Love it.
I managed to only guess the Jun vs King one perfectly. The Jun actually did a pretty advanced combo at 19:46 that no low rank is getting. The standing 4 into ff2 is pretty tight execution wise.
Tekken rankdle would be such a fun idea for streamers to do with their communities. I need to see this happen NOW
The format is good but you should pick games where people dont have custom health bars, the jun vs king game for exapmple, that specific health bar you unlock at i belive mighty ruler so its very easy to guess
o damn good point
Can also unlock those through the Arcade story so it isn't a dead giveaway but it definitely can be an indicator
Nah I disagree. Because you can unlock those health bars in offline so I honestly wouldn't pay much attention to that detail.
You get them thru arcade tho
Please don't ever stop this series
When that Asuka held the rage art I cheered bro. Dumb rage art plays become smart rage art plays when you turn them into a mini game 😂
The rank variance is due to character variance...... I have fought so many tryhard Bryans who make me sweat in the Yellow ranks but then I fight dumb Lars players in Purple who spam the same combos....... I think knowledge checks really carries a lot of characters to high ranks.
makes sense
I love this format
Omg i love this type of series
Congrats on 100k 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
The first fujin video threw everything outta whack lol. But the thing about tekken 8 ranks is that it's so easy to promote and demote that if you're having a good day or if all the opponents you're facing are just unfamiliar with your character then you could make it pretty high in the ranks even if you're just flow charting
Am I actually witnessing 2 Goats on my screen rn?!?!?!
9:00 King mirror be like
"This guy might be better than me."
"That's right! I am better than me!"
This was fun to watch.. I like the guess the rank 👍🏻
Honestly as fun as this is, it's really helping me stop worrying too much about rank. If that first match were Fujin players, imma be alright
Phi: this grab is coming out of 1,2, we would see a duck
we see a duck here 20:05, an interrupt and a duck here 20:27
You GOTTA make more of these
With themainman, damn that woulda be fire
First seeing this. This was a fun video. Gonna go search for more of these.
that was fun!
more of these pls
5:21 Dora the Explorer
Wow, I was actually pretty accurate on most of these. I think it was because I focused more on the players movement rather than move choice. The only one that really threw me off was the Law/Hworang match. I guessed way way lower on that one.
idk if you picked it up but the shinru match they literally had the garyu banner so it couldn’t be lower unless they deranked
25:16 "this combo is gonna be nasty"
me watching as King main: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Honestly, regrding the statement at 1:58 I feel like brand new/newer players are equally, if not more likely to find some cool custom ideas online to show off in ranked
My biggest takeaway is there is more then one way to play Tekken and there isn’t a true “right” way.
No way that first one was the rank it was, thats so sus. looks like how youd expect boosters to play.
Look at Paul's punishment in the first match. Also, Victors play like this even after Fujin tbh lol
Im crying in the club, them not knowing Dora lmao
First match; fujin and sweating with Jin since T7 and usually they're very proficient players.
No way those two were Fujin, no duck punish on Paul strings and not one break on that 1+2, I'm fuming in laughter 😂😂😂
I'm going to update and guess as I go along. As of writing this very first comment, I have accurately assessed the skill level of the players in the first match. I really did guess Blue Ranks. 😎My clues were that a Throw was broken seriously on reaction, and the way they Sidestepped off the wall to realign, that is a legitimate high level skill. They were performing attacks with intentionality. This doesn't really happen outside of strings in low ranks. Attacks with serious intentionality only occurs at around Red Ranks and onwards. This was clearly a Paul Player who had some experience but wasn't familiar with the Victor Matchup.
1st Match - Guess: Blue Ranks Answer: Blue Ranks
My reasoning for guessing Purple Ranks was because the Jack Player knew how to Mixup after Blocking, that is not a skill that is readily apparent to players who are of a lower skill level. They did a lot of mashing, but I think these players are Purple Ranks for the Jack-8 vs Azucena Match.
2nd Match - Guess: Purple Ranks Answer: Yellow Ranks
Way off 😭Maybe it's harder to guess than I originally thought.
I'm guessing the King Ditto is occuring in Red Ranks due to the level of control they have over their characters, but inability to recognise situations. This looks pretty clearly like Red Ranks to me, but we'll see. 🤔
3rd Match - Guess: Red Ranks Answer: Green Ranks
This shit is *WAY* harder than I thought 😭I got lucky on the first call I guess. But I suppose there was more clear data to expose the Paul and Victor as being high level than in the two Matches right after.
Orange Ranks for Kuma vs Lars. I won't spend the brain power thinking too hard about it.
4th Match - Guess: Orange Ranks Answer: Yellow Ranks
Alright, not too far off, but I wasn't right.
Whoever found the matches scouted some gold, bravo.
Love this format. Do more please!
Paul : 50 dmg combo
Diaphone : Thats a decent combo!
Oh you sweet sweet innocent soul xd
Insane how people like this can get to blue ranks now
@@tylermartin7245 You should be glad, that means there are lots of new players coming to your game. Its inflating people's ranks, because anyone whose played Tekken before has a significant advantage. Be nice to the noobs and teach them, that's how the scene grows.
This is a neat type of content. Interesting and unique 🤔
The tell for the King mirror was spamming rage art the second they lose their turn. A green rank specialty
the kuma vs lars game lars didnt raw rage art. He probably wanted to press it and was watching the special style. you can see it flash and then lars inputs
watching it rn and nailing the first one was super easy, i KNEW they were exactly Fujin for a reason, never in teh match Victor pressed 2, it means that he KNOWS his movelist and has enough skill to not give in the primal impulse to mash 2
This video hurts me. I remember struggling to get to red ranks in Tekken 7.
Meanwhile, that Victor game made me physically ill with how rough the game was played. It's easily confusable with vanquisher gameplay.
"Okay, I have learned the combos, I am now safe to go into online and beat some noobs!"
That poor Lars labbed the combos to get bodied by a special style bear omg this is hilarious and sad at the same time xD
editor always killing it
Part 2 would be great with the update to the ranking system!
I have a feeling tekken god and above will be where the true earned ranks are
U gotta remember, there's people like me that play more against friends than online then finally go online with a lot of skill and just start flying
Congrats on 100k!
The collab we needed
From Round 1 of Match 1, I literally said "this is orange at best". My mind is blown.
You don't actually have to manually input RA if you're using special style. It will automatically use it at the end of your air combo if you have rage. Crazy to me that people making all of these Tekken 8 videos don't know this stuff.
I love collabs. These two are amazing to watch, I want more dia x phi
I am not surprised at Victor players only knowing the same 3 moves.
33:50 I found that low rank reinas are gods at electrics, but their overall offense is lacking hence the raw df2, no ff2, no hell sweeps, no mix, but insane electrics.
19:10 you really don't see jun players? In Europe red rank they're EVERYWHERE
Naw whaaat that first video i was already shocked how are they Fujin!?!?! I'm over here stuck in Tenryu, Mighty Ruler... why aren't none of my match ups like this lmao
How can you both not recognize Dora? :P
I could guess that one King was a Tekken God from the wall combo he did right before that "shove"
Omg I'm so gassed that I was close on the first one with victor. I thought Raijin. I didn't realise at this point that both players rank had to be the same. I was thinking battle ruler for the Paul.
I guessed Fujin correctly for the first one because the Paul's punishment in the first match against Victor was optimized and you don't see that in red and below
that shinryu hwo actually hurt my soul.
the first one had really good footsies tho imo. so I wasnt insanely surprised by fujin. (still surprised just not as much)
Yeah that’s what tipped me off, the movement was very fluid, even if they made some mistakes with their moves
Blue is the new red, welcome to Tekken 8
are all of these NA ranked matches? i swear asia ranked isa different BEAST
There is always the possibility that they played quick match more often. Which is why there better at a lower rank.
PhiDX is such a nice guy. Spotted you the first 2 rounds so he doesn't sweep you
This was super fun
Nice
Whenever you see a king play it's impossible to know what rank he is as long as he's between green and purple rank,
PhiDX has a closet full of the same outfits like a cartoon character 😂
More please this is crazy fun
With Tekken 8, you take what rank you think they would be and then bump it up 2 colour grades
Azucena as Dora is diabolical
PHIDX SHOWING HIS GOTHAMCHESS ROOTS LETS GOOOOOOOOIOOOOO
As a first-time Tekken player who just broke into red ranks, I was playing along and I did so much better than them and was only not close on one of them.
I guess I empathize a lot more with low rank players like me and so I can get a good read.
watching this makes me feel like I only fight smurfs lmao
I haven’t gone into ranked since hitting late yellows cuz my friends said red is where it gets hard and I wanna hold my 90% winrate. That first clip inspired me to queue up
Don’t worry about the win rate, just play the game. Red isn’t really hard if you understand some basic concepts
3:41 Bro it's literally Victor of course he's gonna get carried. I guessed destroyer on that though I didn't think I'd beat y'all.
I know they didnt show the names but I agree with PhidX for match 6 I called that sweaty King gameplay as Jesandy immediately. (If i had to guess I would call the Asuka Kingreyjr or someone similar of that level).
There’s no guessing my rank because I look so good until you realize I can’t tech a throw or play on P2 side 😂
I was right on every single one 😂
the fidelity of movement and the willingness to wait for the opponent to attack are dead giveaways. Throw break rate too
16:30 Special Style does the heatburst and rage art for you, this is straight up misinformation.
I knew the first one because i recognized the guys custom from playing him a few days ago lmao
I like the sun, as a guest.
im a total noob steve main that is 24,000 in brawler rn
I match with people who know 10 hit combos but cant dodge a steve 121
the biggest noob tell are people who dont side step even once in a match
this was super fascinating to watch
id love to see this again once ranked evens out and everyone settles in their ranks
Yea sidestepping is really hard to do well cuz u cant just throw it out without knowing the moves, I'm in eliminator and I dint even bother atm
@@fleepity I’m at bushin and I just throw it out a ton, i think it’s worth trying just to see when it works and when it doesn’t.
Universally if an opponent runs at you from like range 5 you should do a step when they get close. If it doesn’t work, then note the move that hit you and think if there’s another counter to that move
@@6thdim alright I'll give it a shot
I can't sidestep to save my life at purple. But my excuse is I play on PS5 (trying to get rid of PS5 controller). You literally can't sidestep on PS5 because the pad is so incosistent when figuring between a hold or tap
@@yellowscarlightningscream8347 idk bro I’m on ps5 and I have no issue, stepping wins me most games