Mini Turbo Install on my V-Twin 670cc Buggy!
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In today's video I install the turbo on my 670cc IRS buggy and talk about some of the issues we face.
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Encase it wasn't clear enough, I will be doing a draw through setup. The carburetor will only see vaccum, from the spinning turbine blade and engine. Many drag cars actually used a Carburator/turbo setup. Hope y'all enjoy
Make sure you give the carb some distance from the turbo or you could boil the bowl.
Straight killin red Beards buggy 👍
Try to keep the distance/volume between the carb and the actual intake of the engine as small as possible. It makes it run much better
That turbo is very small I think it will be restrictive but I guess we will see if it is restricted put the Honda turbo on it
Finally someone doing it the simplest, most cost efficient way possible
That hurt a little to see the engine running with no turbo oiling 😬
Steven Dohm glad I’m not the only one who was dying on the inside
Please stay with the predator engine. I like how you are building something within reach of allot of us. Very ingenious young man. Stay sane, safe and healthy.
What do you mean? You can find bikes ridiculously cheap on marketplace.. ive seen 600cc croch rockets go for a buck a cc
Those are ok, but I scored a 24hp scratch and dent new Briggs for 740 shipped to my door.
All it had scratched and dented was the air filter element.
And I can get parts for em anywhere.
Was well worth the 50$ more than a predator imo.
@@YeeThirty damn I gotta move to where you live. 😭
Everybody around here wants 3500+ for a run down 250
@@Whyohwhyugh canada man. We got deals on used shit lol but every thing new is 1.5 - 2x the cost of the usa
You asked for my thoughts so I ll give them to you. Oil in the turbo without oil pressure and you reving it equals fried bearings really fast. What is it with people thinking that its not the oil pressure that keeps the bearings floating and removes heat from them? Don't do questionable stuff like that. Also depending on the 2 cylinder engine and when the valves for each cylinder open and close, you may need an air capacitor after the turbo to act like a boost reservoir or the thing will not even function properly. When you put an oil feed on the turbo, go for the highest pressure oil pump you can get and make sure your oil drain is as big as possible, people think that they need to limit the oil pressure to the turbo when in reality you can put as much oil pressure as the drain allows to flow back out of it. The higher the pressure the better, just dont overdo it and cause the seals to leak.
I was gonna say the same thing. Who know how long he really revved that engine up.
@@davidsantana8384 I know it made me sad
Yeah that turbos probably toast now already
@@ianrushsmoustache2282
No doubt.
I see someone installing an oil restrictor and I lol though.
I was concerned when I seen edits of the revving. He prolly lost at least 45% of power/boost when completed. But hey you live and learn and the kid doing great and is gonna make mistakes. But I appreciate y'all giving him proper knowledge on the subject.
Please please STOP running that engine without oil to the turbo, it needs more then a few drops...
While you are correct why plead? Do you really care if he blows the turbo?
@@DR-br5gb i do, its engine envy
That is how you cook a turbo buddy...
Buddy ....LMAO
Very impressive for a young guy your age. You definitely have some skills. Great ideas. Thanks for the video
"More power can never hurt💀"u funny bro like fr😂😂
Turbos generally need oil pressure to get proper lubrication everywhere so I’d be careful running it like that at all even if you put some in there
Still super excited for the build though!
I think you're on the right track, don't even think to turn away, I've built many Harley engines, as well as quite a few others, been doing it more than fifty years. You have done more for power than I could ever do for the same money, on "a real engine". That one's just fine, I'm looking at turning a B&S vertical into a horizontal, just because I've got one laying around, and looking to a similar project, for a bike. Thanks for showing these, I've been watching you through from the beginning of this engine. I'm also watching a build with a supercharger, and believe for your purpose, you've got it going right. Thanks for showing this, excellent welding, sound engineering, and far cheaper than "name brand ways". Thanks again.
I did a draw thru setup with a Garrett GT20 on my Rhino 660. People are very convinced that carbureted and single cylinder engines both cannot be successfully boosted, however I have the thing running mint. I think you will be able to make the V twin run pretty well. You might need to get a wideband gauge to at least just use temporarily for tuning. My low speed jetting is only up 1 or 2 sizes from what normal mods call for, however my high speed jet is at 6 or 8 sizes more than normal to keep a safe afr under boost and not bog. Interested to see what happens
@540iadicted you still using the turbo 660 ? I have a MPI super charger kit for the rhino but was thinking of boosting it !
I would add some additional reinforcement from the turbo flange to the engine- you really don't want it moving around at all because it's very hard on the bushing and impellers. Under sustained high speed vibration the impeller shaft will either bend or round out the bushings, something you don't want to happen.
And I just realized that's the catch can lines not feed lines to the turbo. RIP bushings, they're going to blow oil when you actually pressurize them.
Aw man! That is so sick, I love hearing that thing spool! I'd love to see you keep the 670 because I think it is so close to being perfect
the ying yang spinny thang sounds so cool!
This turbo will definitely take this buggy to another level of power..Nice work bro
(if it works out to plan)
@@VasilyBuilds sure it will work just install an intercooler so that it won't heat up the engine..
Jesus boy ait it torque-y enough lol cant wait to see the wheelies it does
robert burns Jesus as a saying, not bringing religion into it
You have inspired me to truly know that I can do anything mechanic wise with enough time and practice, thank you for that.
Before it's all done and said you'll be putting tag and insurance on this bad boy and making it a daily driver! This is one of the craziest builds that I've ever seen! #Vasily #Unstoppable
Vasily! Injecting a bit of much needed normalcy in these crazy times. Keep up the good work.
This channel deserves more recognition, great vids
I got to say I'm really impressed with your mechanical ability. Ive watched a lot of your content, and you do an awesome job of figuring things out for as young as you are. Great job!
I’m super impressed with how far you’ve come on this buggy. Reminds of my early teens when I was so eager to build stuff, now I’m in my 30s and lazy. lol. But seriously great job man, can’t wait to see this little beast get some boost
You and your videos I look forward to the most these days you are the only one I'm really interested in watching anymore keep up the good work I have not watched this video yet but I'm watching it now
Can't wait to hear it completely run. When it is all fully together and on its own power going down the trail
Wow it sounds like it's going to work! Can't wait! 😉
Man keep building it!!! It’s improving every time...
That turbo is done...
As soon as he said a few min i was like UHH OHHH
That turbo is pennies on the dollar. Who cares
That turbo will be fine
@@YeeThirty
Haha but it woulda lasted longer even if he rigged up a hose and a funnel and even fed it by gravity.
Total time for that rig to get a little more test time :
maybe 10mins.
Joe Shmo most people don’t when they are learning😂
Great job on your build I’ve watched for some time now very impressed thank you for taking the time to share your ideas and work
That turbo is going to last 10 minutes now
Well it's been about 5 months now and it still works just fine who's the clown now
I put a small turbo on a 2t scoot years ago. It would spin it but this was over 10 years ago so my knowledge wasn't quite there. I'd like to think that I could definitely make it work now. And I hope that you do. Anyone can put a bike engine in one. Keep it unique. Love the channel.
I really can’t explain how excited I am to see this thing run! Awesome🤙
that turbo sounds f***ing nice man you need to keep that that build going
That little whistle from the spool up is awesome 👍🏼
Damn bro you are seriously the man. You put so much passion and creativity in your work. I always try and send you a few bucks when I can, you deserve every dime.
This may turn out very awesome.When you removed the filters there was a bit of blow back through the carbs ,so I think there's plenty of fuel and compression to use that turbo easily.I think you can make a small'charge tank'between the turbo and carb and it should be enough.Rock on Vasily.
I love it buddy! This thing is turning out great but watch that turbo you can cook your bearings pretty fast without oil pressure, you should put on a standalone oiling system for the turbocharger and jet it fat and make sure you have the wastegate hooked up correctly because I'm sure the engine will spool as much psi as you want to push with such a small Turbo, I ran the same turbo on a Polaris scrambler 500 about 9 years ago which created PSI easily.
Also you should get in air fuel ratio gauge and make sure it's around 12 when driving and doing test hits just because a carburetor is not as consistent as a ECU controlling fuel with fuel injectors.
Another way to help with fueling issues is you can make the intake with an extra fuel injector or two that is low CC flow ratings and use Hobb pressure switches to make them kick on at certain psi's to add extra at certain RPMs if it's lean I've actually done that on my rear mount turbocharged S10 about 5 years ago and it worked well.
Dude you are doing great! Super good quality in filming and the end result of the build is awesome! Keep it up!
Turbos on go karts/buggys are just plain awesome. Can't wait for the next video!
In order for this to work correctly you’re either going to need a carburetor designed to take boost or a fuel injection conversion. Cars and cameras tried this a few years ago with a predator 430 and they could never get it to run correctly with a regular Carbeurator and they eventually were forced to switch to fuel injection
Enclose the carb in a box
It ill work fine
He's doing a draw through carb set up. No box needed. Carb will never be under boost, just vacuum. Same style set up as a 1978 Buick T Type, Chevy Monte Carlo turbo, 1979 mustang turbo or 1979 Mercury Capri turbo. The only problems I see is the turbo seals might not like gasoline, he might have to use an offset flywheel key to back off the timing, and the spark plugs might need to be gapped smaller.
Those 2 are morons though
The build is getting better and better
This is soooo fricken sick dude! You are always pushing things to a new level! That thing sounds goooood spooling
Good to see u back at it and unshaken by the crash good man big love from UK
So idk if you e figured out the oil for the turbo yet but what me and my buddy did was make a complete separate oil system for the turbo. You get a reservoir full of oil that has a drain and return added, then you get a simple oil pump or even a fuel pump will work and wire it in. Then just plumb it up to the turbo
Love your vids man all the best from Ireland
So many people have tryed that turbo on small engines. i have yet to see ONE that actually works, and makes some power. good luck, ill be waching. (who does not love small turbos lol)
What I would do for the Oiling System is use a Diesel Fuel pump and make it's own oil tank and use a restricted return line so that way the Turbo always stays very cool and always has nice cooler oil pressure to the bearings rather then using the Engine oil.
Great job bud 👍 lost it when you presented the large turbo for fitment 🤣
The pressure created by the turbo will most likely reverse the fuel flow in the carburator, so a fuelpump is needed.
Or if your willing to test something out, try running an extra pipe from the intake manifold to the fueltank to put the tank under neutral positive pressure.
I think he said it's a draw through so he will pull vacuum through the carb.
Ok my advice as a mechanic you need to drop the gap in your sparkplug to like 16. Need a hotter coil a blow threw carb with 1/3 more fuel in jet and may need to advance the timing and definitely use 98 octane or better fuel like 103 tops.
THAT SOUNDS SO good im so suprised it had a nice sound on a go kart
Your builds are reaching that next level son! We gotta meet one day when I'm back in town. Love what your doing!
that turbo should have no problem building boost quickly,
my suggestion is to have a small header to turbo volume but have a larger intake volume to account for a low cylinder count engine.
I say go for it! If you don't try you won't ever know for sure what the outcome will be. Best of luck.
Ur getting good with those welds, keep up the GR8 work brother!!!!!
A yo i just subscribed to ur channel i been watching all ya builds for this buggy and IM LOVING IT......... I think for ur next build u should change a go cart to a 2020 Dodge Challenger Demon Red Eye..... Just think about you would b the FIRST TO DO IT.....
Am atv engine would be the most efficient and cheap way to go but they do get overwhelming with the wiring.
That turbo sounds just uff! So noice!
Never cease to amaze me
Hey Mr Vasily, don't let the comments about needing a box around the carburetor or you need EFI, change your plans. Your draw through set up should work just fine. Chevy, Buick, Ford and Mercury all had draw through carb turbo set ups. If your carb gets warm from the turbo make some phenolic spacers, heat shields and or insulation. The only thing that I can see that might be a problem is timing and possibly the spark plug gaps might need to be narrowed up a bit. An offset flywheel key, put in to retard the timing, might be an easy fix if needed. I'd only do this if the motor makes over 7 lbs of boost. You probably already know all that.
Thank you for this comment! luckily I have an adjustable timing flywheel, so i can retard if necessary
The fuel will also absorb heat from the turbo, and evaporate more completely. That will help prevent fuel from pooling in the intake. The downside is the entire intake tract will have fuel/air mixture in it. So a backfire could be catastrophic.
I would run shorter runners to turbo like a log style manifold rather than equal length since it's a vtwin and not getting constant exhaust pressure from both cylinders at same time just my 2 cents I think it would help spool being closer to turbo and less length and area to build back pressure.or stagger 1 runner going into other runner 4 inches below flange and also step down tune size towards flange to build velocity of air flow.
Love your videos.just wish they were longer. Good job kiddo
Nice dude very nice, be safe and bless you and your family
Boost makes everything better. 😎
I'm guessing the turbo has journal bearings? If so, you may have trashed the bearings. I would suggest pouring some oil in the turbo oil feed, and see if any metal shavings come out the oil drain. You can also spin the turbine by hand, to help distribute the oil inside. It would be better to find this out now, instead of when the engine is running. If the turbo self-destructs and throws debris into the engine, that'll be a bad day.
I was pouring oil in there every 15-30 seconds, Journal bearing turbos seem to be pretty tuff
Not wanting you to wreck again, but I'm really enjoying the mechanical experimentation!
Less 90% turns to the charge is the best way to go the straighter the better flow that's common sense and has been proven time & time again..love the turbo bro so sickk now get her tuned in u will be boosten..✌
0:25 "I realized that more power could never hurt" you're crazy😂😂 For real I don't know if you have already done it but after the accident you had I suggest you to put a seat belt and a killswitch or at least a killswitch on your buggy. Nice work fam keep it up🔥🔥
Man that is so cool bud you did a amazing job on this super sweet sounds so good I can hear that bad boy spooling up.
Dude this buggy is going to be sick. You have a special talent man keep at it. Would like to ride with you sometime
Put some paddles on that thing and take it to the dunes. Amazing build btw keep it up. 👍
Just for a suggestion,when you get tired of this build,It would be awesome to see you build your own machine from the ground up. It would be cool to see what you would consider a "dream build" with you building your own frame from tubing and seeing you'd use as a power plant/transmission combo. You did an awesome job modifying this generic China cart into a bad ass machine,and it would be interesting to see what kind of buggy you could create with your own design and skill set.
He already did, The shifter kart
Your definitely well on your way to the top my friend, the quality of your work speaks for itself....
With my experience when i put a turbo on my civic I think it would be a great idea to gap the rings to compensate for the added pressure
It looks great!
i think its better to have the carb near to the cylinders for better gas response, so it´s shorter way for the gasoline to travel and nice video to
If the turbo doesn't work out, superchargers should. The AMR300 would be good, or if you're willing to bore the cylinders out to increase displacement slightly, the TVS R340.
Those are some mighty fine welds
Nice can’t wait for next episode keep em comming!!! Your doing well my friend
Your like the goonzquad of karting. Love your vids. Keep it up 😊
I would go with an older air cooled 4 cylinder motorcycle motor. No cooling system required so more room. Maybe just hook up fan. They also had heavy duty clutches because most of those older 70's 80's street bikes were very heavy. Go with a big cc motor if you do it. It will need the extra grunt for the weight
I've seen people use cheap old vacuum motors and brushless rc motors to run a oil sending unit for small turbo applications like this to feed and return oil to the turbo and back to your crank case or oil pan. Just a though.
Hell yeah man, been wanting to do this to my daughter's gy6 buggy but I'm afraid I wont have enough displacement to make it work stock at least. Thinkin of building a 232cc gy6 or swapping it out for something with more displacement. It would be nice if I could easily find a supercharger small enough for what I need.
Damn I never seen a video of this thing running!!! I thought you were still building it how did I miss this!!!
I ain't the best in engines but I heard carburetors work with under pressure and you place a turbo on it don't think its gonna work
It will work just fine with a "Blow Through" style carb. Done it for years
People do it successfully every day! It's called a blow through carburetor, or you can place the carburetor after the turbo so to speak.
hes running draw through, aka carb into the turbo inlet. it works great on carbs, and it actually cools the charge better than an intercooler can.
That is definitely not true about it cooling better than with an intercooler. Plus the chops it all up, and it pools. Plus it will shorten the life of the turbo charger by constantly having the blades chopping through gasoline. I definitely works though. Many early turbo stuff primarily from the US was built this way.
Great welding skills!
I wish there was a league for custom builds like this and power wheels . Like Mario kart. But love your builds !
you need a brase to keep the manifold from craking you can see the turbo move a lot when you rew it
spassser brace, cracking, rev... smh
It'll work great with the EFI setup or mikuni style needle seat carbs
i would love to see a "racing" mower build, as i am building one and i love these things.
Very cool content! I wonder if you may have lost some power by running the 2 exhaust outlets into a tube that could have been bigger. It seems restrictive although I guess it would increase velocity.
Nice content nice build once again you were saying people having issues with 212cc like Predators they don't build enough vacuum for a turbo
2 cylinder will work so much better than single cylinder turbo builds, just by design the exhaust pulses should keep it spooled while the intake is open, unlike the single cylinders
Bro, where's the off road video!?!? I wanted to see how well it did or didn't do n/a.
Good job, cant wait to see. Now do EFI and tune like Matt suggested..
If that buggy had some sort of stall clutch where the turbo could spool up before it took off it would be double the launch
youre never going to get it to run at a good power level without doing a fuel injection setup so you can tune it. it will make all the difference i promise.
Bump
All he needs is a draw through setup. Been done quite a few times.
I agree draw thru would be best.
And turbo anything does not matter about aproch angles and such. Natural aspirated stuff should think about angles and such but once you boost something it’s more about wat looks best and wat is easier to do.
I look forward to see how this works out!
Turbos build boost when in load. So free revving won’t do much. And it needs some back pressure with an exhaust.
Why on earth would you want back pressure on a turbo?
LMFAO!!
That thing looks wicked 🤘🤘
Nice! I can’t wait! Good job bud
Ford 2.3L Lima turbo motors used "sucker" turbos. You should definitely not be running it like that without a flowing oil system setup, the turbo can easily coke the oil or run dry if it's not constantly flowing.