The whole episode was loud. The daughter is entitled talking about it’s their house but she’s their child. She was talking in circles and I still don’t get her reasoning. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
For her to think she can smoke weed in her parents’ home after they’ve asked her NOT to and NOT be kicked out is ridiculous. Before she smoked, she should’ve secured housing 🤷🏾♀️. If she’s under their roof, she lives by their rules. Period. Then to basically say “I don’t want a therapist to help, I want my family to help”. Girl! They don’t know how to help you so you need a professional and there’s no shame in that. People have to take accountability and I’m disappointed that Karamo didn’t say that.
She bodly said "I smoke everyday" 😅 Like...when did this become acceptable. She's at the prime of her life...not doing much to advance herself....but can boldly state that she smokes everyday. Sis said she dropped out of school because of a man.😢😢 And she's so disrespectful to her mum. I'm 43 and have my own son and I have my own life. But if I acted like this to my parent?!!
That is the truth!!!! My mom does that and she’s been clean for 30 years although she was on heavier drugs but she blames EVERYONE for her downfall/failure
It seem to me it was easier for her to lash out at those who truly love and care for her in stead of the of the perpetrator. All the things she admitted that the sister did and that’s not enough. I hope she gets the help she needs.
Exactly. And she has a great sister. Some people wish they had a sister like Danielle. Yet, she treats her sister like crap. I do not like Arielle at all. She's not a good person. She needs therapy and Jesus.
@@TasteMyRainb0w Agreed, Arielle reminds me of me when I was abused and traumatized by bullies in my life. I did blamed my family for not protecting me and not supporting until i had to go to therapy and take accountability and responsibility for my own behaviour. Now I hold myself accountable for my mistakes and I learnt to love myself daily. That's what Arielle needs to do. It's called forgiving thyself to love thyself.
Exactly.she needs to grow up..put on her big girl panties Sad part is, I see me in her.. I know Karamo said is not the weed but it absolutely is. When I started smoking weed I started acting just like this
To Danielle: please understand you don’t have to put up with family members like Arielle just because they’re family. They drain you and never take responsibility!. Nothing changes….
@joyhudson5674 Absolutely!!! I was super annoyed at his lack of holding her accountable! If we are going to have a show about real people facing real problems, please let's be real, let's be honest, and let's not be afraid to hold folks accountable!
12:29 that just broke me! The sister in pink shirt is absolutely exhausted. Her sister is hurting her and she can’t handle it. She tried to do everything she could and I hope she knows it’s not her fault.
She got her CARIBBEAN parent to buy her weed?! She wouldn’t know what love was even if it slapped her in the face. Love Karamo- but she needed to be held accountable for this one. I understand she’s hurting but there are different ways to deal with things. She owes her family an apology.
Definitely! That fact that her mom did something she absolutely didn’t like just so she could be safe is LOVE. But now she’s putting the blame on her mom and sister? What the actual F
The mother is so strong especially when her daughter accused her of not believing her getting SA. The daughter is a gaslighting aggressive manipulator!
This…. She pissed me off something terrible. She lacks accountability and Kara no pissed me off for not calling her out on her BS! She is as wrong as two left shoes 😡
This is BS… Arielle needs to grow up and stop making excuses for her bad decisions and blaming others for her trauma… that’s a strong mother there and Arielle is just an entitled child … period…
If she wasn't on the street she most likely wouldn't have been S. A. however before the S. A. she must have been going through something why she failed out of college. People don't just 180 in behavior academically without reason..
she doesn't want help! she wants her family to support her even if she continues to make poor life choices and definitely doesn't listen. What she thinks is what needs to be done
I could tell Arielle was capping straight away. She was doing too much right off the bat as if she was trying hard for people to believe her. Blaming everyone for her actions but her. Smh.
she tried to sugarcoat the fact that she was disrespecting her father and fighting him and thats how she got kicked out. Then had the nerve to say they "abandoned" her. I'm also confused at how she can say her family wasnt there for her when she got "raped" when she was the one who refused to follow thru with it. They did what they were supposed to do.
Feel no sympathy for this young lady, she blame everyone for her questionable decision, she don’t want therapy but she want her family to fix her, no she need to do the work herself with the help of a therapist
Glad you said it. I don't feel any sympathy for her either. I feel sorry for the family because she's hurting them and causing so much pain and disruption to the family. I can't stand people like her. My brother used to be like that, but not as bad as her. He walked around with a chip on his shoulder and took stuff out on the family. My dad laid him out on the living room floor one day and it was a wrap after that.
It's almost impossible to talk to someone this angry. She won't even shut up and listen. She wants to do everything her way, and it is not working. I pray that they can work this out.
Exactly...and..Karamo needs to get education on weed and be honest that weed is the cause of her going off like that. Weed causes anxiety and mood swings
I am quite disappointed in the way Karamo handled this situation. There was no accountability on the younger daughter's part. How much more can a family do when everything is rejected. I feel like the younger daughter has some undiagnosed mental health. I think that self-medicating is an issue in this situation. It seems like she does more than just partake in marijuana, especially with her rage, fast-paced talking, and explosiveness. Karamo, I needed you to do more than put it off on the mother and older sister. She wasn't abandoned, rules and boundaries were set and she couldn't handle it. This family can't lose their peace due to trying to help someone who does not want it.
Yeah I just started watching this guy a couple days ago. So far I like his show, but he often doesn't even keep it real with certain folks like the girl in the blue. Both the mom and older sister are completely right. The younger girl really gives off narcissistic vibes.
This didn’t go anywhere. It seemed so rushed. The sister was completely unheard & misunderstood. I could totally see myself being in her shoes. Thinking she did the best she can while also juggling her own issues. The mother wasn’t understood much either. I feel as though Ariel needs to seek help in healing her trauma within. Her family seems very supportive but they’re just tired of the constant badgering & disrespect. I’m Jamaican myself & compared to the culture of terrible communication within in our community, the mother did an amazing job.
@@tashahenderson7891you can be the loudest in the room . Just because you loud doesn’t mean people actually understand . Ariel has trauma . And yes West Indian families are more strict and things are move overlooked . They dealt with it the best way they knew how . She can’t put the blame on her full family . She has to be an adult and start her healing process . She’s basically saying they the reason why I’m so mean and I’mma keep being mean . She needs a therapist. They can also help her how to communicate better
She said she was sexually assaulted when she was homeless, so in some way it seems like she blaming them for that as well. She said where was I supposed to go if you put me out of your house...but she fails to realize her actions of disobedience smoking in their house and her mouth is what got her put out. It's a sad situation because I do see love there but I also see disrespect and entitlement for sure. I pray they work it out.
It seems impossible to give this woman what she is asking for. The mother and sister seems to have done everything and acknowledged that they could have did things differently. The woman still won’t accept. She needs to learn how to forgive and move forward .
This was ME‼️💯 The accolades, the accomplishments - and THEN when I “fell from grace” after MY sexual assault ….I emotionally spiraled.😮💨 To ADD insult to the injuries- my parents BLAMED ME for my abusive boyfriend , my sexual assault , AND domestic abuse 💯🥲😢 I have TYPE-A parents who ONLY cared about “solutions” and skipped over MY EMOTIONAL torment from being a young girl who was never taught HOW to navigate around wolves in sheep’s clothing. This gurl IS the “emotional child” and they write her off as dramatic, and “different”- when she’s actually SCREAMING for emotional acknowledgment and support from her parents - who are NOT that way 💯🥲
FACTS ! I feel u ! I can't even imagine or speak in words of how this women feel it is sorry as hell and hurt not understanding of how she feel. Just " listen " to this girl emotionally n mentally been hurt I understanding I've been through it ALL ! Smh my prayers goes for u and ARIEL stay strong and hopefully find peace🙏
I disagree. Karamo needed more time. Glad he’s offering therapy. The older sister seems co-dependent in some ways, writing her sisters appeal AND application to the community college. Instead of re-focusing on her secondary education, it seems like she needed to take a break from academics and focus on her mental health and trauma issues OR anxiety that was paralyzing her. The weed WAS/IS a problem with motivation-but it seems like her anxiety is interfering with her ability to perform academically at this time. Yes, she probably needs to contribute to her own living situation such as room/board at home while she “walks in her own steps”. She needs to try to move forward semi-independently. But if she can’t follow the household rules, then she needs to live elsewhere. There is a LOT of fear here. Mom is afraid for her daughter, older sister in pink is afraid for her sister and trying to help her in ways she thinks is best but it may not be what sister in blue wants nor is ready for. Where is the dad?
@@afterthestorm9355you said the truth. I wonder when the assault happened.... Was it before or After your dad kicked you out for being disrespectful????🤔. What these kids expect il now A days is respect without doing anything to deserve it. You are living in a house where you have no real responsibilities but to go to school, do what you're supposed to do....and live your life!!! Damn..so what did she want???? Oh, be coddled due to her foolishness???! I have no sympathy for this entitlement...AT ALL!! Girl grow up!!! Geesh!
As someone who has been sober from weed for over a year now, she has an addiction to the substance and needs to take a break to recognize the dependence that she has.
i’m confused because her mom and sister seem very supportive. maybe she’s not open to receiving it. the way arielle is complaining makes it sound like “woe is me”. if she doesn’t feel understood or heard then maybe she should find the space and community where she can. she will be open to receiving it when she’s ready. this clearly isn’t the time or the place.
Yeah she’s addicted to smoking and it shows in their testimonies of how she acts. She’s aggressive on stage and they’re definitely trying to help and acknowledge her pain but she wants them to fix what they didn’t break. She flunked out, she got kicked out, she can’t stop smoking. Sister and Mom try and she’s not hearing anything.
As much as i love this show, Karamo totally dropped the ball on this one. He needs to offer tough love sometimes in order for the guests to truly understand.
I recently heard him in another episode say “there’s no such thing as tough love” and I remember thinking, first time I disagree with you Karamo. I really like this guy but I 💯 agree with you.
@@HeyoitsJaytough love here would have made her realize that 1. You can't go ahead disrespecting your dad and not get what comes with it. 2. Make her own to her failures and stop blaming others for it even when they; out of love for you and trying to make you happy, apologized.
This girl is unbearable. Her family did great, literally being vulnerable and showing they offered her support and she is only being disrespectful to them. She's the problem!
FACTS. She doesn't want to take responsibility, though. She's angry, stubborn, immature and just nasty. I can't believe this is a grown woman. I've seen out of control children behave like this, but not a grown woman.
🎯🎯🎯 these people need to realise that you can only blame your upbringing so far. As an adult you must take accountability. Her body language and manner is awful
I’m confused as to why they were even on the show. Nothing got resolved. Baby sister had an excuse for everything. And when she said she “wanted” them to apologize in a certain way, and the mom said she did that, baby sister acknowledged that and moved the goal post.
Arielle single-handedly united us as viewers. The comments seem mighty similar and non polarizing. Although she has me stressed & anxious 😅…this is the FIRST time we agree❤ My baby needs: Prayer, Peace, Therapy, etc.
This young lady is the toxic one in the family, but she will not take responsibility for her actions and the consequences of these actions. She will have many regrets.
I'm waiting for the day that older siblings finally get the space to be heard and valued for who they are and not the pseudo parent to the younger sibling. That pressure is intense and the fact that this younger sibling Is begging for something she can only give herself speaks volumes to the way us older siblings get treated when it becomes so much easier to place blame on other people. I.e. hostile, entitled, disrespectful treatment etc.
I'm the youngest sister who has played the role of the elder to my two older brothers. When our Mom passed away, my brother actually said, "well, you have to be Mom, now". I told him I was done playing that role. I had been doing it since I was 6.
Everyone doesn’t know how to deal with a family member being sexually assaulted. They try to show up the best way that they can. As a sexual assault victim, I had to receive therapy and still do. I refuse to lash out at my family because they did not assault me and it is not their fault. You can’t expect people to give you what they don’t have or don’t understand how to deal with it.
She said she only wants to hear, “I would’ve made different decisions back then”, the mom & her both agree the mom has said that to her several times, but then she turns around & said, “but that’s not the apology I was looking for.” She’s constantly moving the goal post for what she’s expecting from them. She says they didn’t show up or support her, they give examples on how they did, and she says that wasn’t it or wasn’t good enough. She may want a listening ear from her family, but there’s only so much someone can handle when you vent. They’re not trained to compartmentalize someone else’s trauma.
I think Arielle needs to be evaluated for PTSD and Cannabis Use Disorder. She doesn’t seem to truly want to accept anyone’s apology either. It seems like what she wants is a space to feel her emotions. Her family can only do that to an extent. It’s not their duty to bear the brunt of her trauma. She should try ongoing therapy. And Jesus. Also, seeing the way she acted on stage kind of gave a glimpse into how aggressive she can possibly get behind closed doors with her family. I hope everything gets repaired between them 🙏🏽
I'm not gonna speak on the marijuana thing bc first it's not my place and something I'm educated enough on but bro i think all she needed was a hug and to feel understood bro. All the materialistic things they tried to offer and I completely get that that was their version of helping her and support but it's not what she needed and that's why she was upset/ 'acting out.'
Y'all keep saying it's Arielle it's Arielle but you're not listening to what she's saying... She took accountability for her dropping out of school it's the first thing she said. She said she was sexually assaulted. Can you imagine your family literally giving you pamphlet for therapy and telling you to talk to someone about what happened when all you really want is your family. It's like pushing her away. What happened to her was too much for you to handle. I mean I get it 1000%. I had a miscarriage in 2016 nobody in my family had ever had one not any of my sisters cousins aunts or my mom. I was 4 months and let me tell you they came to visit me once. I lost my damn mind nobody was there for me. They wanted me to talk to someone and all I needed was my family. My mom my sister's but that never happened. I was so guarded after that I felt abandoned I felt like I didn't matter to them. Like what happened to me was just normal. That hurt like hell. I spiraled after that I was so angry and I started smoking heavily just to stay calm. For 3 years I was mentally messed up from that miscarriage it was my first time ever being pregnant and I couldn't understand what went wrong. Sometimes words are not needed a solution isn't needed most times it's just a hug and embrace just knowing that you're there is healing enough. This girl is hurt and it has turned into anger. I wish I could talk to her because I was her!
@@amandarodriguez6932 Her mom said that she did do all of that though, there is only so much you can do an not everyone can deal with hearing that their loved one has gone through stuff like this. How much more can they do?
When her family offered to get the police involved and take her to the hospital for a r3pe kit she REFUSED! What the hell does she want other than someone to coddle her?!
She went through a traumatic experience and I think Karamo saw that she needed to vent some of that anger. I also think her anger towards her family is because she may feel like if they didn’t put her out she wouldn’t have been raped
Karamo says he hears all sides but he didn’t do that here. He let Ariel run amuck and talk over her mother/sister. I would bet she was wild before all of this started which is why her family has had it with her. I hope she gets therapy because nothing else will fix this.
@donjerthemisfit it was a muck and a mess. Just ridiculous he coddles people that don't need to be coddled. They need to learn accountability it doesn't matter what happened to her she had victim mentality before any crime happened to her and acts like they all owe her something. It's wild and just a muck.
Where was Arielle’s accountability? She made horrible choices and blames her family, especially her sister, who tried to be there for her. Weed absolutely should be part of the discussion. She can air her feelings AND take accountability for the areas in which her poor choices resulted in certain consequences.
My lips would've landed in an audience member's lap, had I yelled at my mother like that. And yes, that tone would've gotten her ass thrown out of my house also.
@@munaahmed9064 further more, bet this is the same energy she had with her father the day he threw her out.. Mind you, this was before the alleged attack. Yes I said "alleged", because, hell naw you can't just believe all women. 😎
@@brirob00 she’s very disrespectful, and she don’t take accountability. She blame everybody for her miserable life except her self. Life doesn’t work that way.
@@munaahmed9064 Clapping her hands with each word "bro this" and "bro that" and her mom was not even saying anything wrong...she was HELLA disrespectful
“Narcissists don’t want love. They want attention,” says counselor Kellen Von Houser. “If they can’t get positive attention, they’ll take negative attention. If they can’t have your admiration, they will accept your rage. But they must provoke some response in you. That is their goal-to provoke a response, any response. It solidifies, in their minds, their power over you, that they are calling the shots, that you are weak, or gullible, or easily manipulated, or vulnerable or whatever they have labeled you in their mind that means you are ‘less’, less than them.”
idk arielle seems like the problem to me, she’s very combative and hostile. I feel like even if her family did everything she wanted ,she would still find a reason to be upset about something. I hope they get through this , she needs to do a lot of self reflecting..
Aerial is her own mess! She is blaming everyone but herself for everything. She was thrown out of the house because of her smart mouth. No parent will want a kid in they house that don’t live according to their rules.
100% correct she's a narc. Did anyone else catch that she's had multiple jobs because "once somebody disrespects me I'm out of there". She's someone who refuses to be accountable for her own actions and whatever happens in her life is the result of something someone else did to her in her mind. She needs to get help or shut up.
Can we stop diagnosing everyone we dislike with personality disorders? None of you armchair psychologists are qualified and narcissism is more than just the evil villain disease.
This is a good show to shed light on the real problem but I feel that many times Karamo doesn't always hold certain guests accountable for their actions
Older sister should not be held accountable for Ariel’s own actions!!! She’s not the mother and for the older sisters sake I pray that she cuts ties with the sister!! No type of accountability, no desire to heal and move forward! Blaming everyone else for her trauma.. Absolutely not. You have to cut people like her out of your life for good!
Ariel is just projecting her pain and hurt on her family....she needs to take accountability and forgive herself at this point....her mom and sister really love and care about her
Her family really cares and they're right, she does need intense therapy. She has PTSD. Her family can provide love and support but they cannot fix what happened to her.
Reminds me of my sister and my mom and me ! I just walked away and never looked back gone soon be a year we still don’t talk … and never will I’m done with this family!! I no longer have a family I been abandoned like always from teenage years I was abandoned so I’m good!! I don’t want to be bothered anymore I just want my peace
Arielle does need therapy once she able to process her trauma and develop healthy coping skills and mechanism she could work on relationship with her family.
I have a sibling who was doing so well but started smoking honestly lost interest in life became lazy and very aggressive to the family members. This girl is fighting demons and wants the family to follow her shenanigans. She wants to break the rules and the family to accept it. That is disgusting.
As a Jamaican who grew up around weed smokers it’s appalling how Americans downplay the effects of weed. Most people in Jamaican who smoke weed everyday experience drug induce psychosis. My brother was hospitalized almost every week during his 20s because of weed and it’s nothing else because poor people in Jamaica do not have access to what Americans call "hard drugs".
Now that everybody came out and said what they had to say, Ariel sounds ridiculous. She’s making excuses for any and everything she could have smoked outside or she could have went for a walk and then, as far as her education she is old enough to know better.
It looks like they tried with her and nothing they could say or do would satisfy her. Her being a victim of sexual assault is horrible, but to lash out at her family when they still tried to help her is ridiculous. She says go left, so they go left, then she gets mad because they didn’t go far enough left….she says jump, so they jump & she gets mad because they didn’t jump high enough. She needs to take accountability and seek help.
This episode is a joke, Karamo did not handle this well. Balance is needed - hurt or not accountability needs to factored in. Mum and Sis have played their part well, you can only do so much
Nobody is addressing how the bigger sister is using her downfall as a stepping opportunity and boasting in the process.. And she realizes that she has favoritism by her family so she tugs on that. I dont like how that is not being seen.. I’m pretty smart and i smoke just like her.. She is not being listened and is being provoked is why she erupts. Smh.. But once weed is involved everybody’s going to be blinded.
She has to help herself! They're sitting there listing everything they've done for her to get her help and she refuses! I hate that Karamo didnt try to get through to her that she does need therapy and she can't keep bulldozing her family down. Eventually she won't have a family left willing to help her & she'll only have herself to blame
Here’s the thing, weed does cause mood swings but it only brings out the emotions that were ALREADY THERE! My brother smokes and he tells me it only amplifies your inner emotion. Holding her accountable is why she’s angry because everyone is trying to tell her what she did wrong which she already knows. People like her just need some to actually listen to what they have to say. I deal with this all the time. A lot of people want others to be held accountable when they can’t even hold themselves accountable. I have no problem with admitting my faults, but what I’m not going to allow is someone to beat down on me as if I’m the only one with the problem. An understanding and GOOD COMMUNICATION is what’s needed in this situation, not someone to judge, blame or point the finger at. 🤷🏽♀️
I smoke weed and i hate to say this but when i wanna accomplish something i have to stop smoking. Her parents kmow what their talking about. Weed has very adverse effects.. when you're not aware you'll feel like you're being attacked. People need to be educated on the drugs that they do and how it effects the mind. Not saying you can't finish school or anyting by smoking but if you're concentrating more on smoking and partying it's not going to work and her parents know that.
She has such a loving and supportive family that loves her. They hate to see how she is destroying her life. I do think Ariel lash out because she’s upset with her life. She mentioned how she destroyed her college due to chasing a guy and she’s probably upset with her failures and expects her family to take care of her and accept her failures. She needs to take accountability and fix her mistakes and love her family before she chase them away. She is beyond lucky to have them.
The core issue was rooted not in marijuana but in the fact she was raised to achieve high academic social and economic standards, especially as an immigrant. Her emotional health and wellbeing was never acknowledged, nor her wants/desires considered bc, it’s not about how you feel, it’s about the needs/feelings of the family, first and foremost. She started smoking to escape the responsibility of the privileged she was in and that’s all normal behavior as a young adult. The problem is that they don’t know how to receive share to give emotional vulnerability or acknowledgement bc it’s a foreign action that rarely is expressed. That’s also normal in immigrant families. Family therapy is needed, father included, so they can lean to emotionally supportive as individuals and then family members. The sanctuary of their shared emotional wellness can be a source and shield. She needs to know that she is loved regardless of her choices, she needs to feel protected, she needs to know it’s alight to fail or to fail their expectations for her. They’ll be there regardless because at the end of the day, it’s her happiness and wellbeing that quintessential. She is valued. ❤❤❤❤❤
I understand that she dropped out of school and probably used weed to cope with the trauma. I feel her anger and frustrations!! I also see how her family tried helping in all the ways they knew how. It isn’t fair to be upset with them for not knowing what else to do. I understand she felt like an embrace was all she needed but I’m positive that if she went up to any of her family members they would have embraced her. Therapy is very important for healing ❤️🩹 the trauma and the family bond. Hope they come through stronger.
Getting a .7 gpa is od wild and blaming it on your weed use and not just taking accountability of the fact that you were prolly having too much fun in college is wild. I see myself in this young lady. My parents always gave me everything spoiled me and when they were so over my entitlement they reacted like her parents did as well. Is like they tired. They love you but they sick of her not taking accountability for the dumb decisions she has made.
lol you gotta just be writing your name on the paper and turning it in blank to get a 0.7 cause wtf? LOL yeah she can't blame anyone but herself for that
She just wants her family and she's still young. She can go back to school if she wants to or work in a job she loves. It's never too late to start over. Trust me I know because I did it myself.
She reminds me of my sister. Started smoking weed heavy and college and ended up dropping out. It ruined her drive and it ruined her future. She is self medicating with weed 😢
I feel bad for Arielle .what if she is the scapegoat of the family and now that she is damaged enough ,they finally have proof to blame her. the way her sister talks about her at the beginning ,doesn't match the rest .some people's pain is so invisible and not possible to explain to people who didn't experience it.
@@GlamGail Trauma adds to who you are but as an adult, it’s only blaming so much trauma you can do. Weed doesn’t help🤷🏽♀️she said she doesn’t need therapy when clearly she does
This young Lady Ariel has experienced serious trauma & abuse that she doesn’t feel safe to really talk about fully. The weed, dropping out of school and anger is her lashing out etc. Unable to process her emotions and her family need to be patient and gentler with her. They are tired don’t have the tools. They all need therapy to help them learn how to communicate with kindness and show up in a way she needs. But Ariel you have to give them some grace too.
Arielle called in the show, dictated the discussion, and used diversionary tactics. Karamo bungled on this one. Choices have repercussions! I saw nothing but love from the Mum and the sister. The kid is full of entitlement.
Karamo for these types of messy family situations you need to bring them out separately and have a one-on-one with each. Then bring them out all at once. This was too much chaos, and I don't think think they got to the real core issues that were affecting. Also you need to be better at calling women out on their bs. I notice your more firm when it comes to holding men accountable for questionable decisions and behavior and chose to empathize with women. I would not have put up with half that young ladies crap if I were her parent.
I agree. Karamo needs to work on that. As gay black men we love us some black women. We have great friendships with black women. But Karamo needs to separate from that and remain professional by holding these women accountable. As much as I can keke with black women I can hold them accountable just the same.
I believe the mother and the sister because I personally know people like this. The description that they gave was on point to what I saw in my own family. They're not lying.
Whats crazy is that Arielle herself admitted to a lot of what they are saying...she just tried to downplay it like what she did or said wasnt that bad. Like when her mom said she didnt want smoking in the house. She was like "i wasn't smoking..." then she said "it was a weed pen" i wanted to be like "bihhhhh thats still smoking" LOL....she downplays and sugarcoats the bs that she does
There's nothing like an unaccountable, emotional individual. Never apologize when you've done nothing wrong. I'll be the first to say, I'm not sorry for how a person view me. Especially when I've tried to help them. GULL BYE!
SHEEEEESH!!!!!!! Weed cannot be taken out the conversation because that mixed with her past trauma is what is causing the outburst from Arielle. The fact that she take no accountability is what gives me pause. It seems to me the family is willing to work with her and help her even though they may have been limited in knowing how but I never heard her apologize for how and what she has caused the family. They are not the reason for her being sexually assaulted. She even said that her family raised her right so why then when something so tragic happened did she lash out on them like they did it? Also, I know what marijuana does to people and like her mom said some of this stuff out here is dangerous. I'm sorry Karamo but the way you got on the sister was wrong because she really tried to help her the best way that she knew how. Was it perfect? Maybe not but I truly believe that she had her sister's back no matter what. Arielle needs deep counseling and maybe the family can also do it with her so they can better understand what's going on with her.🙏
Arielle takes ZERO accountability, I understand she's hurt but she needs to see that she has a role to play in causing the strain in their relationship, and she needs to give her them grace, sometimes people don't have the capacity to provide what you need, this doesn't mean they don't love you, they're just doing the best they can
This!! I hate how they act like weed is some superfood or sum. It should've never been illegal, but it's still a drug. And strong weed can F u up! No substance is for everyday use. Edibles is the only healthy-ish consumption. Smoking is bad period.
Cannabis is a plant medicine. Most people today are smoking super potent strains that have been bastardized through chemical genetic modification. I suspect it's more addictive the old fashioned "reggie".
This beautiful hurt lady needs to seek professional help separately and then possibly family counselling together. I think if she can do her part and put in the work, it may be easier for her mend any type of relationship that she wants with her mum and sister. Both her mother and sister clearly acknowledge her hurt and pain however as human beings it can be quite difficult at times to love someone who is not likeable and so disrespectful. Hopefully if they can get some counselling this will be a great start of mending the relationship I think ultimately, they all want. I wish them the best 🙏🏾.
I’m happy that I am not the only one that just thinks she is a spoiled and entitled child. She needs to grow up and take accountability.
Thank you 💯
i wanted to fast forward everytime she was ranting because what is she even saying??
I’m a little disappointed he let her rant on like they really did something to her
Exactly
Dropping out of college because of a man is crazy and blaming it on your family instead of him is insane
She is at fault, if she dropped out, SHE is the problem. Let’s stop blaming others for grown folks decisions.
Blaming it on anyone besides herself is crazy. That was her decision.
It's Karamo not checking her about this FOR ME
The whole episode was loud.
The daughter is entitled talking about it’s their house but she’s their child.
She was talking in circles and I still don’t get her reasoning.
The world doesn’t revolve around you.
She can’t blame the man either she made that choice to follow up behind that man
For her to think she can smoke weed in her parents’ home after they’ve asked her NOT to and NOT be kicked out is ridiculous. Before she smoked, she should’ve secured housing 🤷🏾♀️. If she’s under their roof, she lives by their rules. Period. Then to basically say “I don’t want a therapist to help, I want my family to help”. Girl! They don’t know how to help you so you need a professional and there’s no shame in that. People have to take accountability and I’m disappointed that Karamo didn’t say that.
I'm confused because isn't Karmo a licensed therapist or something? Seems he missed the basics on this one.
@@TasteMyRainb0w@pinkpassion229 hell he could barely get a word in edgewise between the three! 😂
Ain’t nun wrong with weed
My daughter smoked weed on the side..byt she better finish college
She bodly said "I smoke everyday" 😅 Like...when did this become acceptable. She's at the prime of her life...not doing much to advance herself....but can boldly state that she smokes everyday. Sis said she dropped out of school because of a man.😢😢 And she's so disrespectful to her mum. I'm 43 and have my own son and I have my own life. But if I acted like this to my parent?!!
She is absolutely exhausting. They are just tired of dealing with her. She is an adult child!!
Baby sister is doing exactly what ALOT of people who abuse substances do: blame everyone for their own problems.
That is the truth!!!! My mom does that and she’s been clean for 30 years although she was on heavier drugs but she blames EVERYONE for her downfall/failure
Exactly!
Right
SAY IT LOUDER!!!!!
Facts 🔥🔥🔥
Arielle refuses therapist, but expects her sister to be her therapist.
Yes she does need therapy but she also needs love from a family member in the form of verbal support and also just listening
@@Abby.lowkeyher family sounds VERY supportive and very understanding but they can only do so much if she’s not willing to do anything for herself
It seem to me it was easier for her to lash out at those who truly love and care for her in stead of the of the perpetrator. All the things she admitted that the sister did and that’s not enough. I hope she gets the help she needs.
Let’s as a community stop holding the older sister accountable as if they are their brother & sister parents.
Exactly. And she has a great sister. Some people wish they had a sister like Danielle. Yet, she treats her sister like crap. I do not like Arielle at all. She's not a good person. She needs therapy and Jesus.
She does need therapy. But she refuses to admit she needs it.
@@Lululand_18 excatly she has to help herself
@@TasteMyRainb0w yeah because I would of told my sister “I’m not ya mother “ so quick
@@TasteMyRainb0w Agreed, Arielle reminds me of me when I was abused and traumatized by bullies in my life. I did blamed my family for not protecting me and not supporting until i had to go to therapy and take accountability and responsibility for my own behaviour. Now I hold myself accountable for my mistakes and I learnt to love myself daily. That's what Arielle needs to do. It's called forgiving thyself to love thyself.
you can’t live in someone’s house and break their rules, be accountable girl
She is delusional in denial that she is majority of the issues.
Exactly.she needs to grow up..put on her big girl panties
Sad part is, I see me in her.. I know Karamo said is not the weed but it absolutely is. When I started smoking weed I started acting just like this
So true
@@SabaliBGDC I agree because the weed on magnifies her problems. Arielle needs to realize the "She can only conquer what she is willing to confront."
RIGHT
I said the same thing.
To Danielle: please understand you don’t have to put up with family members like Arielle just because they’re family. They drain you and never take responsibility!. Nothing changes….
Right! When karomo said "if" Danielle looked so hurt, like would do you mean "if" I love my sister. That's why he had to quickly apologize.
Karamo needs to make Arielle take accountability for something.
Right!
Why bother? She'll never stop trying to guilt trip others, versus examining her own poor choices that ultimately brought her to this dead end.
@joyhudson5674 Absolutely!!! I was super annoyed at his lack of holding her accountable! If we are going to have a show about real people facing real problems, please let's be real, let's be honest, and let's not be afraid to hold folks accountable!
@@traynesewarren2467 I guess that he also recognizes that he's not a therapist.
Well said 😊
12:29 that just broke me! The sister in pink shirt is absolutely exhausted. Her sister is hurting her and she can’t handle it. She tried to do everything she could and I hope she knows it’s not her fault.
It’s time from the sister in pink to leave her alone. Keep those boundaries.
She got her CARIBBEAN parent to buy her weed?! She wouldn’t know what love was even if it slapped her in the face. Love Karamo- but she needed to be held accountable for this one. I understand she’s hurting but there are different ways to deal with things. She owes her family an apology.
Exactly
Definitely! That fact that her mom did something she absolutely didn’t like just so she could be safe is LOVE. But now she’s putting the blame on her mom and sister? What the actual F
Now that is true and agree
Materialism isn’t love…??? Like ok she bought her weed that doesn’t mean you love someone it could be you tolerating someone that isn’t love
Exactly
The mother is so strong especially when her daughter accused her of not believing her getting SA. The daughter is a gaslighting aggressive manipulator!
As a victim of SA and no one believing me until another victim spoke up i understand this girls pain
@@nikkifreeman2929but they did believe her and offered resources that she refused
Arielle is wrong and strong....very narcissistic!
Preach they need to love her from a distance.
This…. She pissed me off something terrible. She lacks accountability and Kara no pissed me off for not calling her out on her BS! She is as wrong as two left shoes 😡
block. move. no contact.
He drop the ball in giving advice to this family. When he said “if” you love her. That was a knife in her sister’s heart 😢
This is BS… Arielle needs to grow up and stop making excuses for her bad decisions and blaming others for her trauma… that’s a strong mother there and Arielle is just an entitled child … period…
If she wasn't on the street she most likely wouldn't have been S. A. however before the S. A. she must have been going through something why she failed out of college. People don't just 180 in behavior academically without reason..
@@anastasiamcfarlane5274they keep dismissing the weed issue. Weed has effects that hinder your mind and make you a completely different person.
Ariel didn’t take no type of accountability whatsoever. She didn’t do anything but scream the entire time. I hope she gets the help she truly needs.
she doesn't want help! she wants her family to support her even if she continues to make poor life choices and definitely doesn't listen. What she thinks is what needs to be done
This girl is taking zero accountability. Mamma seems like she's a fair but structured parent.
without empathy. there is no none.
I could tell Arielle was capping straight away. She was doing too much right off the bat as if she was trying hard for people to believe her. Blaming everyone for her actions but her. Smh.
she tried to sugarcoat the fact that she was disrespecting her father and fighting him and thats how she got kicked out. Then had the nerve to say they "abandoned" her. I'm also confused at how she can say her family wasnt there for her when she got "raped" when she was the one who refused to follow thru with it. They did what they were supposed to do.
Feel no sympathy for this young lady, she blame everyone for her questionable decision, she don’t want therapy but she want her family to fix her, no she need to do the work herself with the help of a therapist
Glad you said it. I don't feel any sympathy for her either. I feel sorry for the family because she's hurting them and causing so much pain and disruption to the family. I can't stand people like her. My brother used to be like that, but not as bad as her. He walked around with a chip on his shoulder and took stuff out on the family. My dad laid him out on the living room floor one day and it was a wrap after that.
I didn't see no tears the first 3 minutes. Like is this real?🤨
She wants them to fix what they didn’t break
All of the above I would have been like “sorry Karamo but I am choosing to no longer f@ck w her for my own sanity”
@voodoohead, THAT PART!
It's almost impossible to talk to someone this angry. She won't even shut up and listen. She wants to do everything her way, and it is not working. I pray that they can work this out.
Karamo needs to learn to hold hurt people accountable. The way he let her continue to go off is wild.
He's just allowing people to express themselves.
Exactly...and..Karamo needs to get education on weed and be honest that weed is the cause of her going off like that. Weed causes anxiety and mood swings
This was wild. Not good Karamo...weed was a huge factor in the dysfunction
Yup indeed, just because you hurt is not a license to be disrespectful. That sister is me me me
Fr
I am quite disappointed in the way Karamo handled this situation. There was no accountability on the younger daughter's part. How much more can a family do when everything is rejected. I feel like the younger daughter has some undiagnosed mental health. I think that self-medicating is an issue in this situation. It seems like she does more than just partake in marijuana, especially with her rage, fast-paced talking, and explosiveness. Karamo, I needed you to do more than put it off on the mother and older sister. She wasn't abandoned, rules and boundaries were set and she couldn't handle it. This family can't lose their peace due to trying to help someone who does not want it.
Yeah I just started watching this guy a couple days ago. So far I like his show, but he often doesn't even keep it real with certain folks like the girl in the blue. Both the mom and older sister are completely right. The younger girl really gives off narcissistic vibes.
This didn’t go anywhere. It seemed so rushed. The sister was completely unheard & misunderstood. I could totally see myself being in her shoes. Thinking she did the best she can while also juggling her own issues. The mother wasn’t understood much either. I feel as though Ariel needs to seek help in healing her trauma within. Her family seems very supportive but they’re just tired of the constant badgering & disrespect. I’m Jamaican myself & compared to the culture of terrible communication within in our community, the mother did an amazing job.
Fr
Oh please she is rude and disgusting. She needs to grow the F up, nobody owes her nothing. She is a spoiled bully
Ariel was heard. She was the loudest one there. The others were more unheard because every time they started talking, she started talking over them.
@@tashahenderson7891you can be the loudest in the room . Just because you loud doesn’t mean people actually understand . Ariel has trauma . And yes West Indian families are more strict and things are move overlooked . They dealt with it the best way they knew how . She can’t put the blame on her full family . She has to be an adult and start her healing process . She’s basically saying they the reason why I’m so mean and I’mma keep being mean . She needs a therapist. They can also help her how to communicate better
She said she was sexually assaulted when she was homeless, so in some way it seems like she blaming them for that as well. She said where was I supposed to go if you put me out of your house...but she fails to realize her actions of disobedience smoking in their house and her mouth is what got her put out. It's a sad situation because I do see love there but I also see disrespect and entitlement for sure. I pray they work it out.
She never said she blamed them for being sexually assaulted
Nailed it ❤
It seems impossible to give this woman what she is asking for. The mother and sister seems to have done everything and acknowledged that they could have did things differently. The woman still won’t accept. She needs to learn how to forgive and move forward .
I noticed that. And even when mom and sister apologized , she yelled “what am I gonna do with your apology?!” Like ma’am - what actually do you want ?
Her problem is her not forgiving herself. This has nothing to do with anyone but her own mind, shame and regret.
Because she ain't asking for nothing. She doesn't want solutions she wants problems!!!
@kalireads4175 Boom 💥... you hit the nail 🔨 on the head...
Selfish girl mxm!!
This was ME‼️💯
The accolades, the accomplishments - and THEN when I “fell from grace” after MY sexual assault ….I emotionally spiraled.😮💨
To ADD insult to the injuries- my parents BLAMED ME for my abusive boyfriend , my sexual assault , AND domestic abuse 💯🥲😢
I have TYPE-A parents who ONLY cared about “solutions” and skipped over MY EMOTIONAL torment from being a young girl who was never taught HOW to navigate around wolves in sheep’s clothing.
This gurl IS the “emotional child” and they write her off as dramatic, and “different”- when she’s actually SCREAMING for emotional acknowledgment and support from her parents - who are NOT that way 💯🥲
FACTS ! I feel u ! I can't even imagine or speak in words of how this women feel it is sorry as hell and hurt not understanding of how she feel.
Just " listen " to this girl emotionally n mentally been hurt I understanding I've been through it ALL ! Smh my prayers goes for u and ARIEL stay strong and hopefully find peace🙏
Karamo definitely gets intimidated by the loudest guest and always sides with them no matter what. 😂
😂😂😂 I've noticed
I disagree. Karamo needed more time. Glad he’s offering therapy. The older sister seems co-dependent in some ways, writing her sisters appeal AND application to the community college. Instead of re-focusing on her secondary education, it seems like she needed to take a break from academics and focus on her mental health and trauma issues OR anxiety that was paralyzing her. The weed WAS/IS a problem with motivation-but it seems like her anxiety is interfering with her ability to perform academically at this time. Yes, she probably needs to contribute to her own living situation such as room/board at home while she “walks in her own steps”. She needs to try to move forward semi-independently. But if she can’t follow the household rules, then she needs to live elsewhere. There is a LOT of fear here. Mom is afraid for her daughter, older sister in pink is afraid for her sister and trying to help her in ways she thinks is best but it may not be what sister in blue wants nor is ready for. Where is the dad?
@@afterthestorm9355you said the truth. I wonder when the assault happened.... Was it before or After your dad kicked you out for being disrespectful????🤔. What these kids expect il now A days is respect without doing anything to deserve it. You are living in a house where you have no real responsibilities but to go to school, do what you're supposed to do....and live your life!!! Damn..so what did she want???? Oh, be coddled due to her foolishness???! I have no sympathy for this entitlement...AT ALL!! Girl grow up!!! Geesh!
True 😂
I noticed that too.
As someone who has been sober from weed for over a year now, she has an addiction to the substance and needs to take a break to recognize the dependence that she has.
i’m confused because her mom and sister seem very supportive. maybe she’s not open to receiving it. the way arielle is complaining makes it sound like “woe is me”. if she doesn’t feel understood or heard then maybe she should find the space and community where she can. she will be open to receiving it when she’s ready. this clearly isn’t the time or the place.
She DIDN'T want support or help. She wants enablers
Yeah she’s addicted to smoking and it shows in their testimonies of how she acts. She’s aggressive on stage and they’re definitely trying to help and acknowledge her pain but she wants them to fix what they didn’t break. She flunked out, she got kicked out, she can’t stop smoking. Sister and Mom try and she’s not hearing anything.
As much as i love this show, Karamo totally dropped the ball on this one. He needs to offer tough love sometimes in order for the guests to truly understand.
Right and this isnt the first time hes dropped the ball. He needs to have an on site therapist to sit in
I recently heard him in another episode say “there’s no such thing as tough love” and I remember thinking, first time I disagree with you Karamo. I really like this guy but I 💯 agree with you.
Nah tough love ain’t gonna do nothing, cuz that creates trauma and more issues
What was tough love supposed to do??? She was already homeless.
@@HeyoitsJaytough love here would have made her realize that 1. You can't go ahead disrespecting your dad and not get what comes with it. 2. Make her own to her failures and stop blaming others for it even when they; out of love for you and trying to make you happy, apologized.
This girl is unbearable. Her family did great, literally being vulnerable and showing they offered her support and she is only being disrespectful to them. She's the problem!
arielle, HEAL. its your responsibility, not your family's, even if you think they caused it. waiting for someone else to fix you will keep you broken.
FACTS. She doesn't want to take responsibility, though. She's angry, stubborn, immature and just nasty. I can't believe this is a grown woman. I've seen out of control children behave like this, but not a grown woman.
🎯🎯🎯 these people need to realise that you can only blame your upbringing so far. As an adult you must take accountability. Her body language and manner is awful
I’m confused as to why they were even on the show. Nothing got resolved. Baby sister had an excuse for everything. And when she said she “wanted” them to apologize in a certain way, and the mom said she did that, baby sister acknowledged that and moved the goal post.
What a lovely mum and sister so supportive I feel Arielle needs anger management therapy.
Manipulation at its finest
For real
Arielle if you see this, GROW UP AND HOLD YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE. MOM IF YOU SEE THIS..GOOD JOB MAJOR PROPS TO YOU QUEEN!
Yea Arielle is definitely the problem and this is coming from a fellow smoker. She needs to stop blaming and get her shit 2gether
Arielle single-handedly united us as viewers. The comments seem mighty similar and non polarizing. Although she has me stressed & anxious 😅…this is the FIRST time we agree❤
My baby needs: Prayer, Peace, Therapy, etc.
This young lady is the toxic one in the family, but she will not take responsibility for her actions and the consequences of these actions. She will have many regrets.
I'm waiting for the day that older siblings finally get the space to be heard and valued for who they are and not the pseudo parent to the younger sibling. That pressure is intense and the fact that this younger sibling Is begging for something she can only give herself speaks volumes to the way us older siblings get treated when it becomes so much easier to place blame on other people.
I.e. hostile, entitled, disrespectful treatment etc.
I'm the youngest sister who has played the role of the elder to my two older brothers. When our Mom passed away, my brother actually said, "well, you have to be Mom, now". I told him I was done playing that role. I had been doing it since I was 6.
Everyone doesn’t know how to deal with a family member being sexually assaulted. They try to show up the best way that they can. As a sexual assault victim, I had to receive therapy and still do. I refuse to lash out at my family because they did not assault me and it is not their fault. You can’t expect people to give you what they don’t have or don’t understand how to deal with it.
Seems like everyone is an assault victim. Getting old😢
Exactly!!!!!
Well said! Especially the part of “they didn’t assault me”
That’s exactly why the sister gave her resources to get professional help
@@sidmagoo9866be careful judging before it comes back on you
She said she only wants to hear, “I would’ve made different decisions back then”, the mom & her both agree the mom has said that to her several times, but then she turns around & said, “but that’s not the apology I was looking for.” She’s constantly moving the goal post for what she’s expecting from them. She says they didn’t show up or support her, they give examples on how they did, and she says that wasn’t it or wasn’t good enough. She may want a listening ear from her family, but there’s only so much someone can handle when you vent. They’re not trained to compartmentalize someone else’s trauma.
Facts💯
I think Arielle needs to be evaluated for PTSD and Cannabis Use Disorder. She doesn’t seem to truly want to accept anyone’s apology either. It seems like what she wants is a space to feel her emotions. Her family can only do that to an extent. It’s not their duty to bear the brunt of her trauma. She should try ongoing therapy. And Jesus. Also, seeing the way she acted on stage kind of gave a glimpse into how aggressive she can possibly get behind closed doors with her family. I hope everything gets repaired between them 🙏🏽
I'm not gonna speak on the marijuana thing bc first it's not my place and something I'm educated enough on but bro i think all she needed was a hug and to feel understood bro. All the materialistic things they tried to offer and I completely get that that was their version of helping her and support but it's not what she needed and that's why she was upset/ 'acting out.'
Y'all keep saying it's Arielle it's Arielle but you're not listening to what she's saying... She took accountability for her dropping out of school it's the first thing she said. She said she was sexually assaulted. Can you imagine your family literally giving you pamphlet for therapy and telling you to talk to someone about what happened when all you really want is your family. It's like pushing her away. What happened to her was too much for you to handle. I mean I get it 1000%. I had a miscarriage in 2016 nobody in my family had ever had one not any of my sisters cousins aunts or my mom. I was 4 months and let me tell you they came to visit me once. I lost my damn mind nobody was there for me. They wanted me to talk to someone and all I needed was my family. My mom my sister's but that never happened. I was so guarded after that I felt abandoned I felt like I didn't matter to them. Like what happened to me was just normal. That hurt like hell. I spiraled after that I was so angry and I started smoking heavily just to stay calm. For 3 years I was mentally messed up from that miscarriage it was my first time ever being pregnant and I couldn't understand what went wrong. Sometimes words are not needed a solution isn't needed most times it's just a hug and embrace just knowing that you're there is healing enough. This girl is hurt and it has turned into anger. I wish I could talk to her because I was her!
@@amandarodriguez6932 Her mom said that she did do all of that though, there is only so much you can do an not everyone can deal with hearing that their loved one has gone through stuff like this. How much more can they do?
She doesn’t want the relationships to be better,she wants sympathy
I dealt with such you can help that
When her family offered to get the police involved and take her to the hospital for a r3pe kit she REFUSED! What the hell does she want other than someone to coddle her?!
She went through a traumatic experience and I think Karamo saw that she needed to vent some of that anger. I also think her anger towards her family is because she may feel like if they didn’t put her out she wouldn’t have been raped
Karamo says he hears all sides but he didn’t do that here. He let Ariel run amuck and talk over her mother/sister. I would bet she was wild before all of this started which is why her family has had it with her. I hope she gets therapy because nothing else will fix this.
I'm sure it's cause she's the one that called the show, but it's just a guess and just cause she was upset, it doesn't make it a muck.
@donjerthemisfit it was a muck and a mess. Just ridiculous he coddles people that don't need to be coddled. They need to learn accountability it doesn't matter what happened to her she had victim mentality before any crime happened to her and acts like they all owe her something. It's wild and just a muck.
@@donjerthemisfitlol nah u wrong I done seen men call the show n get shitted on start to finish.... Calling ain't got nun to do wit nun
Where was Arielle’s accountability? She made horrible choices and blames her family, especially her sister, who tried to be there for her. Weed absolutely should be part of the discussion. She can air her feelings AND take accountability for the areas in which her poor choices resulted in certain consequences.
My lips would've landed in an audience member's lap, had I yelled at my mother like that. And yes, that tone would've gotten her ass thrown out of my house also.
Exactly very disrespectful 😂😂
@@munaahmed9064 further more, bet this is the same energy she had with her father the day he threw her out.. Mind you, this was before the alleged attack. Yes I said "alleged", because, hell naw you can't just believe all women. 😎
@@brirob00 she’s very disrespectful, and she don’t take accountability. She blame everybody for her miserable life except her self. Life doesn’t work that way.
This the funniest comment ever cause fr 😂😂😂
@@munaahmed9064 Clapping her hands with each word "bro this" and "bro that" and her mom was not even saying anything wrong...she was HELLA disrespectful
“Narcissists don’t want love. They want attention,” says counselor Kellen Von Houser. “If they can’t get positive attention, they’ll take negative attention. If they can’t have your admiration, they will accept your rage. But they must provoke some response in you. That is their goal-to provoke a response, any response. It solidifies, in their minds, their power over you, that they are calling the shots, that you are weak, or gullible, or easily manipulated, or vulnerable or whatever they have labeled you in their mind that means you are ‘less’, less than them.”
Hmm, great insight. Power and control is what I see she's shooting for.
idk arielle seems like the problem to me, she’s very combative and hostile. I feel like even if her family did everything she wanted ,she would still find a reason to be upset about something. I hope they get through this , she needs to do a lot of self reflecting..
Aerial is her own mess! She is blaming everyone but herself for everything.
She was thrown out of the house because of her smart mouth. No parent will want a kid in they house that don’t live according to their rules.
This Arielle chick is a problem. She has a wonderful mother ❤and a supportive sister. This narcissist needs to deal with her issues.
100% correct she's a narc. Did anyone else catch that she's had multiple jobs because "once somebody disrespects me I'm out of there". She's someone who refuses to be accountable for her own actions and whatever happens in her life is the result of something someone else did to her in her mind. She needs to get help or shut up.
Can we stop diagnosing everyone we dislike with personality disorders? None of you armchair psychologists are qualified and narcissism is more than just the evil villain disease.
@@thekalenichannel1812 my mama always said if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck it's a mf duck. Go cry in the corner.
This is a good show to shed light on the real problem but I feel that many times Karamo doesn't always hold certain guests accountable for their actions
Older sister should not be held accountable for Ariel’s own actions!!! She’s not the mother and for the older sisters sake I pray that she cuts ties with the sister!! No type of accountability, no desire to heal and move forward! Blaming everyone else for her trauma.. Absolutely not. You have to cut people like her out of your life for good!
Fully agree with you.
Ariel is just projecting her pain and hurt on her family....she needs to take accountability and forgive herself at this point....her mom and sister really love and care about her
Her family really cares and they're right, she does need intense therapy. She has PTSD. Her family can provide love and support but they cannot fix what happened to her.
Definitely agree with you
Reminds me of my sister and my mom and me ! I just walked away and never looked back gone soon be a year we still don’t talk … and never will I’m done with this family!! I no longer have a family I been abandoned like always from teenage years I was abandoned so I’m good!! I don’t want to be bothered anymore I just want my peace
Arielle does need therapy once she able to process her trauma and develop healthy coping skills and mechanism she could work on relationship with her family.
I have a sibling who was doing so well but started smoking honestly lost interest in life became lazy and very aggressive to the family members. This girl is fighting demons and wants the family to follow her shenanigans. She wants to break the rules and the family to accept it. That is disgusting.
I hate when people say it disgusting this lady is hurt and the family is trying to help she don't want help but she needs
Arielle should take accountability for her failures and stop blaming everyone. Arielle, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!
She definitely needs to take accountability and seek therapy.
Most definitely the problem!
definitely not the problem
if you got that Arielle is the problem out of all of this…?…y’all are watching to judge and not to understand, empathize, nor relate
@@DH-rt6flright! I’m like are we looking at the same thing if you think that she’s “the problem “?
As a Jamaican who grew up around weed smokers it’s appalling how Americans downplay the effects of weed. Most people in Jamaican who smoke weed everyday experience drug induce psychosis. My brother was hospitalized almost every week during his 20s because of weed and it’s nothing else because poor people in Jamaica do not have access to what Americans call "hard drugs".
Agreed
Now that everybody came out and said what they had to say, Ariel sounds ridiculous. She’s making excuses for any and everything she could have smoked outside or she could have went for a walk and then, as far as her education she is old enough to know better.
i feel this family . exactly my 41 year old daughter 😢😢😢it continues ...never accountable
It looks like they tried with her and nothing they could say or do would satisfy her. Her being a victim of sexual assault is horrible, but to lash out at her family when they still tried to help her is ridiculous. She says go left, so they go left, then she gets mad because they didn’t go far enough left….she says jump, so they jump & she gets mad because they didn’t jump high enough. She needs to take accountability and seek help.
Facts!
It's painful,but very necessary to learn how to survive on your own. Others aren't obligated to help you.
This episode is a joke, Karamo did not handle this well. Balance is needed - hurt or not accountability needs to factored in. Mum and Sis have played their part well, you can only do so much
Nobody is addressing how the bigger sister is using her downfall as a stepping opportunity and boasting in the process.. And she realizes that she has favoritism by her family so she tugs on that. I dont like how that is not being seen.. I’m pretty smart and i smoke just like her.. She is not being listened and is being provoked is why she erupts. Smh.. But once weed is involved everybody’s going to be blinded.
She has to help herself! They're sitting there listing everything they've done for her to get her help and she refuses! I hate that Karamo didnt try to get through to her that she does need therapy and she can't keep bulldozing her family down. Eventually she won't have a family left willing to help her & she'll only have herself to blame
Here’s the thing, weed does cause mood swings but it only brings out the emotions that were ALREADY THERE! My brother smokes and he tells me it only amplifies your inner emotion.
Holding her accountable is why she’s angry because everyone is trying to tell her what she did wrong which she already knows. People like her just need some to actually listen to what they have to say.
I deal with this all the time. A lot of people want others to be held accountable when they can’t even hold themselves accountable. I have no problem with admitting my faults, but what I’m not going to allow is someone to beat down on me as if I’m the only one with the problem.
An understanding and GOOD COMMUNICATION is what’s needed in this situation, not someone to judge, blame or point the finger at. 🤷🏽♀️
I smoke weed and i hate to say this but when i wanna accomplish something i have to stop smoking. Her parents kmow what their talking about. Weed has very adverse effects.. when you're not aware you'll feel like you're being attacked. People need to be educated on the drugs that they do and how it effects the mind. Not saying you can't finish school or anyting by smoking but if you're concentrating more on smoking and partying it's not going to work and her parents know that.
I see right through her shit. You can’t play the victim forever. Her family have tried.
She has such a loving and supportive family that loves her. They hate to see how she is destroying her life.
I do think Ariel lash out because she’s upset with her life. She mentioned how she destroyed her college due to chasing a guy and she’s probably upset with her failures and expects her family to take care of her and accept her failures. She needs to take accountability and fix her mistakes and love her family before she chase them away. She is beyond lucky to have them.
The core issue was rooted not in marijuana but in the fact she was raised to achieve high academic social and economic standards, especially as an immigrant. Her emotional health and wellbeing was never acknowledged, nor her wants/desires considered bc, it’s not about how you feel, it’s about the needs/feelings of the family, first and foremost. She started smoking to escape the responsibility of the privileged she was in and that’s all normal behavior as a young adult. The problem is that they don’t know how to receive share to give emotional vulnerability or acknowledgement bc it’s a foreign action that rarely is expressed. That’s also normal in immigrant families. Family therapy is needed, father included, so they can lean to emotionally supportive as individuals and then family members. The sanctuary of their shared emotional wellness can be a source and shield. She needs to know that she is loved regardless of her choices, she needs to feel protected, she needs to know it’s alight to fail or to fail their expectations for her. They’ll be there regardless because at the end of the day, it’s her happiness and wellbeing that quintessential. She is valued. ❤❤❤❤❤
Not once did he hold that lady accountable for anything. He put everything on the parents and sister.
Chile. Karamo does not always get it right.
And it's very unfair. He tends to baby whomever claim to be the victim even if they aren't.
This girl is suffering from guilt more than anything.
I understand that she dropped out of school and probably used weed to cope with the trauma. I feel her anger and frustrations!! I also see how her family tried helping in all the ways they knew how. It isn’t fair to be upset with them for not knowing what else to do. I understand she felt like an embrace was all she needed but I’m positive that if she went up to any of her family members they would have embraced her. Therapy is very important for healing ❤️🩹 the trauma and the family bond. Hope they come through stronger.
That young lady exhausted me. I can only imagine living with her.
That would be hell
Getting a .7 gpa is od wild and blaming it on your weed use and not just taking accountability of the fact that you were prolly having too much fun in college is wild. I see myself in this young lady. My parents always gave me everything spoiled me and when they were so over my entitlement they reacted like her parents did as well. Is like they tired. They love you but they sick of her not taking accountability for the dumb decisions she has made.
lol you gotta just be writing your name on the paper and turning it in blank to get a 0.7 cause wtf? LOL yeah she can't blame anyone but herself for that
That girl in the Blue said forget taking accountability I’mma mess up my life by smoking and then blame it on my family
She just wants her family and she's still young. She can go back to school if she wants to or work in a job she loves. It's never too late to start over. Trust me I know because I did it myself.
She reminds me of my sister. Started smoking weed heavy and college and ended up dropping out. It ruined her drive and it ruined her future. She is self medicating with weed 😢
I feel bad for Arielle .what if she is the scapegoat of the family and now that she is damaged enough ,they finally have proof to blame her. the way her sister talks about her at the beginning ,doesn't match the rest .some people's pain is so invisible and not possible to explain to people who didn't experience it.
She appears to be the problem… everyone knows what weed can do to a person.. clearly everyone sees it but them
No Trauma changes you!
@@GlamGail Trauma adds to who you are but as an adult, it’s only blaming so much trauma you can do. Weed doesn’t help🤷🏽♀️she said she doesn’t need therapy when clearly she does
Exactly. She's the problem and she doesn't want help, so she has to go. They need to distance themselves from her toxicity.
@@TasteMyRainb0w perfectly said!
@@GlamGailBut this is more then trauma. She’s using it by manipulating and gaslighting her family
This young Lady Ariel has experienced serious trauma & abuse that she doesn’t feel safe to really talk about fully. The weed, dropping out of school and anger is her lashing out etc. Unable to process her emotions and her family need to be patient and gentler with her. They are tired don’t have the tools. They all need therapy to help them learn how to communicate with kindness and show up in a way she needs. But Ariel you have to give them some grace too.
Karamo knew he would have gotten all the smoke from this girl if he held her accountable lol
Arielle called in the show, dictated the discussion, and used diversionary tactics. Karamo bungled on this one. Choices have repercussions! I saw nothing but love from the Mum and the sister. The kid is full of entitlement.
Karamo for these types of messy family situations you need to bring them out separately and have a one-on-one with each. Then bring them out all at once. This was too much chaos, and I don't think think they got to the real core issues that were affecting. Also you need to be better at calling women out on their bs. I notice your more firm when it comes to holding men accountable for questionable decisions and behavior and chose to empathize with women. I would not have put up with half that young ladies crap if I were her parent.
I agree. Karamo needs to work on that. As gay black men we love us some black women. We have great friendships with black women. But Karamo needs to separate from that and remain professional by holding these women accountable. As much as I can keke with black women I can hold them accountable just the same.
The family made the right choice kicking Arielle out , she is very bitter and delusional. She has no accountability.
I believe the mother and the sister because I personally know people like this. The description that they gave was on point to what I saw in my own family. They're not lying.
Whats crazy is that Arielle herself admitted to a lot of what they are saying...she just tried to downplay it like what she did or said wasnt that bad. Like when her mom said she didnt want smoking in the house. She was like "i wasn't smoking..." then she said "it was a weed pen" i wanted to be like "bihhhhh thats still smoking" LOL....she downplays and sugarcoats the bs that she does
Karamo never holds these people accountable. He coddles them so much it pisses me all the way off!
There's nothing like an unaccountable, emotional individual. Never apologize when you've done nothing wrong. I'll be the first to say, I'm not sorry for how a person view me. Especially when I've tried to help them. GULL BYE!
SHEEEEESH!!!!!!! Weed cannot be taken out the conversation because that mixed with her past trauma is what is causing the outburst from Arielle. The fact that she take no accountability is what gives me pause. It seems to me the family is willing to work with her and help her even though they may have been limited in knowing how but I never heard her apologize for how and what she has caused the family. They are not the reason for her being sexually assaulted. She even said that her family raised her right so why then when something so tragic happened did she lash out on them like they did it? Also, I know what marijuana does to people and like her mom said some of this stuff out here is dangerous. I'm sorry Karamo but the way you got on the sister was wrong because she really tried to help her the best way that she knew how. Was it perfect? Maybe not but I truly believe that she had her sister's back no matter what. Arielle needs deep counseling and maybe the family can also do it with her so they can better understand what's going on with her.🙏
………this episode was cut way too short, bring them back & let’s continue this family discussion
Arielle takes ZERO accountability, I understand she's hurt but she needs to see that she has a role to play in causing the strain in their relationship, and she needs to give her them grace, sometimes people don't have the capacity to provide what you need, this doesn't mean they don't love you, they're just doing the best they can
Arielle has to accountable for her behavior that led to the way her family stays back.
This episode is exhausting. That child needs to learn to take accountability for her own actions.
She needs to be accountable for herself. Thinking she’s the only one with issues, quit the weed it’s messing with your mind
Frfr people don’t understand just how weed works thinking oh it’s just weed but that mess does mess with your mind
This!! I hate how they act like weed is some superfood or sum. It should've never been illegal, but it's still a drug. And strong weed can F u up! No substance is for everyday use.
Edibles is the only healthy-ish consumption. Smoking is bad period.
Cannabis is a plant medicine. Most people today are smoking super potent strains that have been bastardized through chemical genetic modification. I suspect it's more addictive the old fashioned "reggie".
This beautiful hurt lady needs to seek professional help separately and then possibly family counselling together.
I think if she can do her part and put in the work, it may be easier for her mend any type of relationship that she wants with her mum and sister.
Both her mother and sister clearly acknowledge her hurt and pain however as human beings it can be quite difficult at times to love someone who is not likeable and so disrespectful.
Hopefully if they can get some counselling this will be a great start of mending the relationship I think ultimately, they all want.
I wish them the best 🙏🏾.