She never said that it wasn’t her fault. She was saying that her family wasn’t there for her. They chose a side and that’s why she was hurt. I was drinking & smoking before I found out I was pregnant then I stopped. That wouldn’t have anything to do with a miscarriage unless it had something to do with her body. She got into a fight & he could’ve hit her the wrong way once THEY started fighting then it could’ve caused the baby to die. Regardless that’s family they shouldn’t be fighting each other. They both wrong.
I know someone that was out partying every weekend in a month, one weekend where it was an open bar so you know how that go lol, completely unaware that she was 6 weeks pregnant. People often are not aware they’re pregnant until they’re a month or even two. Not saying that alcohol cannot cause a miscarriage, but trust drinking crazy one night like he said she was doing, is not gonna equate to being fought at.
I was going to comment and say that she ain't taking no responsibility for putting her hands on him but she blaming it all on him as usual no accountability
You can have a miscarriage out of a clear blue sky. You really can't determine what caused it but I'm sure drinking fighting and yelling didn't help. At the same time she didn't know she was pregnant which means he didn't know so even if it was his fault it wasn't intentional.
I’ve never been pregnant but I think there’s various factors that could lead to a miscarriage, sometimes things just happen. Tragic nonetheless. Despite the fighting you can see the amount of love they have for each other, so I hope they are doing fine together now.
I’m not going to say he was right for hitting her, but there are many reasons why a miscarriage can happen. To blame him is honestly crazy- especially when she was drinking and hype, probably like that all the time.
@@NicoleClubhouse and regardless of her drinking, he still put his hands on her. You can do crack and the baby still have a chance to live. Children are born every day, and their mother was on alcohol while pregnant with them.
@@Mikia.N.ThePupZ Girl, you took the words right from my fingertips! He had no business putting his hands on her; especially when he admitted to being the aggressor.
@@NicoleClubhousemy mom was pregnant with twins until my dad hit her and the babies was 6 months, she was drinking and smoking and yet they told her tht it was bc of him hitting my mom bc of the damage that they was seeing even when my mom was pregnant with me she still drunk and smoke
Drinking excessively can cause a miscarriage and birth defects plus she was early in the pregnancy fighting acting uncivilized just doing waaaaay too much that baby didn’t stand a chance
Each week a woman consumes alcohol during the first five to 10 weeks of pregnancy is associated with an incremental 8% increase in risk of miscarriage. Prenatal alcohol exposure is a leading preventable cause of birth defects and neurodevelopmental disorders in the United States.
This isn’t about who is right or wrong, this is about what is right or wrong. At the end of the day the language we use in our everyday conversations impacts our ability to intentionally connecting with one another. Language matters… intention matters, connection matters and above all relationships matter. Love what you do Karamo! You are an inspiration
@@guccilady1017 I’ve never heard of anyone losing a baby from drinking even crack babies are born daily but getting into a fight you can definitely lose your kid that way
@@lifewrayne I hate to burst your bubble but no it’s not Chromosomal abnormalities is the the #1 leading reason love do research please and than hit me with the facts now it’s ok to LOL😂
Yall are sick, how can you ignore the fact that this is a big 6 foot, 300lb man putting his hands on a woman and they both admitted that he hits her whenever he's angry, absolutely not, nothing that justifies him hitting a woman
@@ebonimynd4133That's a leap. We will never know what happened unless a Doctor said to her that's the reason. Y'all putting that on him is evil as if with the way she is hands wouldn't have been thrown regardless.
Me and my cousin is doing great after the show. We continue to work on our relationship as favorite cousins. We love the positive energy. Shame the negative!!
He should've kept his hands to himself but she started it 🤷🏽♀️ you cant be aggressive and in people's face & not expect them to react. She cannot blame him for her miscarriage, she didnt even know she was pregnant! 6 weeks is still early and literally anything could've caused that.
@@Ghostaredead "he should've kept his hands to himself" literally the first thing i said. its not about whats "ok" its about people being human and you cant be constantly aggressive and expect people to never react.
he didn’t cause her miscarriage she was just mad & wanted to blame him due to them always fighting & him not being there for her. it was her constant drinking that caused that… she’s no victim & needs to apologize as well !! ✌🏾
They love each other so much that it's unreal. Is there a codependency there? (I'm not sure) - but it's bittersweet, because we don't intentionally hurt the things/people that we love. And we also know that hurting people hurt people. So... I hope they find a wait to heal and mature ... and keep that love going. FORGIVENESS!
He shouldn't have never punched her especially before she even hit him, they're both reckless 😫 they need some therapy so they can build a healthier relationship
wait... he was supposed to let her run up on him and hit him? Women need to realize that what you put out there is what you gonna receive. If she was conducting herself like a respectful lady, I guarantee he wouldn't have even thought to put his hands on her. She admitted she was the aggressor and he responded according to her past behavior. Your post should have said NO ONE should put their hands on anyone else. Because if you run up on me... acting mannish... Ima treat you like a man.
He was wrong for putting his hands on her but she can't just automatically blame him fir the miscarriage , she was drinking and she also said she had an miscarriage b4 , so she honestly don't know what the cause of it was
OMG I'm not crying because they was arguing, I can see how much love these 2 have for each other, these are cousin sibblings PERIOD and they truly love each other and thank you Karamo for getting them to see that and they can stop abusing each other
as someone else highlighted several factors could have lead to her miscarriage. excessive weight, drinking, "carrying on regular" to her that could be heavy lifting being under stress working a lot etc. He is not to blame as we don't exactly what caused the miscarriage and miscarriages in the early stages of pregnancy is quite common. It's difficult to say he wrong for putting his hands on her because she clearly has a aggression aura which she needs to work on as woman AND a human being. Also, they are family and that is clearly their "normality". Both of them should take this as a lesson to curve their fighting, her tap into her soft feminine side :) ooooO Karamo hit the nail on the head that bouncing back can be unhealthy and he set the boundary by not bouncing back "regardless of what happened"
Girl you should be worried about that…y’all should not be getting physical with each other period. Yeah its all love at the end of the day but that’s not how you move with somebody you love.
i don’t like how she admits she has a attitude problem and always puts her hands on ppl first YET she blames him for her miscarriage. obviously she was doing other things also that could’ve contributed to that.. obviously it’s sad she lost the pregnancy (that nobody knew she had) BUT she can’t project blame onto everyone else and not take some accountability for herself
So I’m getting from this that she is selfish and Karamo catered to her to an extent. You can’t run up on a man multiple times and expect nothing to happen. How did he hit you in the face and it made you lose your baby ? By chance, did the alcohol play a part. She is very delusional and if alcohol makes you violent you should not be drinking it, especially while pregnant.
Dummy he hit her in the face & then they started fighting… obviously the face is not where it ended. You must be a man that likes raising your hand to women trying to justify it
But they both admitted they fought hard...he punched her in the face first but they fought fought...however, u still got a point... it could be other factors... Dr should have advised her on that...
She reminds me of my younger self. I grew up with 5 brothers, all male cousins and uncles in my age range, so this is how I learned to handle conflict. Me, my brothers & cousins fought all the time. My mom didn't approve, but she worked all the time, so she wasn't home to regulate. She was the authoritarian. My dad was in the home, but he didn't care that we fought. His main concern was making sure that we could kick other people's ssa. I have often thought that was a good thing because as an adult, I'm not afraid of anyone, men or women until I realized that if a man lied to me, cheated, hurt my heart or anything related my resolution most times was to hit them and I didn't care whether they hit me back or not. I was satisfied that I slapped or punched them. I had to do some soul searching and make myself understand that was not the correct response. I now walk away from conflict. I don't even argue with people. If we can't have a conversation, then we can't have anything in that moment.
She def owed him an apology to bc he didn’t know she was preg and she stated mult times that was normal for them to fight so it goes back to her jumping in his business. He got up after she asked him to go outside and she came at him bringing that on herself. I respect that he apologized first but she should have apologized as well.
I see two very immature kids who nonetheless love each other but have a lot of growing up to do. Miscarriage is a very traumatic experience for anyone and I'm sorry she went through that. However, I doubt he caused it. Most miscarriages happen because the unborn baby doesn't develop properly. About half to two-thirds of miscarriages in the first trimester are linked with extra or missing chromosomes. They need to stop the physical violence towards each other, and start communicating and listening better to each other
Her drinking very well may have been the cause of her miscarriage. It is her responsibility to educate herself, if she's going to carry children, on the risks involved. She should not be drinking or fighting.
Karamo, just wanted to chime in and say I'm glad we're at a point in time where you could be openly gay and still have a completely positive comment section. If you dropped this show in like 1995, that'd be unthinkable
I dont feel like she really think the Baby being loss was her thinking he was the reason. The fight could have been the reason her drinking could have been the reason. I think its her possibly feeling alone or not having people on her side. She keep expressing how no one checked on her when she explained it
@wisdomwallace7375 it was clear to me that you were upset that at the end of the day your cousin/brother wasn't there for you. Therapy is very healthy...I hope that both of you can get the help you deserve. My cousin/brother haven't really spoken in 7 years. I understand that hurt.. he wasn't even there for me when my Mama passed. I've let my anger go but he has to do the same..I'm rooting for ya'lls relationship to be healthier and stronger than before ...to be clear both of ya'll need Jesus😉 🫶🏾🙏🏾
Ì had at least 16 miscarriages that I know of I'm blessed with 3(premature)kids. A loss is always painful...but Don't blame your couzz... You made him feel like a m.rd.. r! Both you were in a bad situation... He apologized but she need to calm down her temper.... You can lose a child because of stress but it started with yourself... And you didn't even know you're pregnant... Don't stress yourself, especially when it's not worth it...small things...what they can cause if you let it...😢 Stay strong and happy y'all ❤
Its not a struggle. I understand where she is coming from regarding nobody said he was wrong for punching her. I have the same dynamic in my family. I made a decision to limit contact with family members who condone wrong actions and not saying that person is wrong. Its gaslighting.
It’s her saying the alcohol didn’t kill the baby the fight did . how do you know that for sure ???? That’s a huge stretch to blame someone instead of taking accountability Some women love to play the “he shouldn’t of hit me cus I’m a woman” did you know you were a woman when you went to turn that man ? You can’t try to attack someone and then play victim. Just like no woman should get beat on no man should Get beat on either.
both drinking and fighting will kill a baby , u cant just say its because of one person bc that baby is living inside u.. You literally could be the main one hurting the baby
that youn man made me cry😩when he said he was with her at the hospital! i could not hold it, ii made me cry, is very sad, they love each other, i could see their frustration.Hope they can resolve their problem,
The aunt said she did that before, both of them including the aunt also said they fight all the time, with all that being disclosed she shouldn’t ran up on him he’s familiar with her behavior and that’s why he reacted the way he did, she needs to calm down her behavior, yes indeed it’s unfortunate that she lost her baby but alcohol could have definitely been a cause for a miscarriage, im glad they made up..
The blame aportioned is too heavy for one party. They are both responsible. Also they need to stop screaming at eachother they are old people. You can be heard loud and clear without raising your voice and yelling at fhe other party.
She must be the trouble maker in the family and how do you find out your’re pregnant if yourre out there sexing without condom. Obviously you will get pregnant
I had her same attitude at one point and it led me to be in a 6 year abusive relationship. I’ve always been a fighter but before that relationship I hadn’t fought anyone since maybe 10th grade. I was just turning 24 when we started dating. I remember the first time he put his hands in me. Of course I going back but the thing is he manipulated me at the same time. He said when I went out with my friends I was drunk and told them he was broke (he was long story) but I never said one thing about him. I hadn’t even had a drink and at that point I had never been drunk a day in my life. The next morning I woke up and I apologized to him something I never do. I’ll never forget it I apologized knowing in my heart I didn’t do anything wrong nor was I drink or had been drinking. But that fighting mentality caused me to be in a cycle that seemed like it would never end. I remember going to work yet again applying makeup to my black eye and thinking this is not right. I shouldn’t have to fight someone I love. And that’s the moment I knew I was in an abusive relationship. It still took me 4 years to actually leave for good but I’ve never been happier. When he realized I was done he came and shot up my house. Called my job with lies and caused me to get fired even though I showed them the restraining order I had against him. Until this day he’s still on the run and I wish nothing but the worst for him. Lastly he too killed my baby. I found out I was pregnant he knew too. He started fighting me got on top of me and as soon as I got up I had the urge to pee. And there was my baby in the toilet. I placed it in a small ziplock bag and proceeded to the ER. I didn’t hear from him for days.
They love each to death seems like literally. She might be over protective of him or jealous because she doesn’t want him talking to other people. Sounds like he is trying to make it on his own.
She lost her baby cause of her actions the drinking excessively and putting yourself in a situation to fight not his fault she just needed someone to blame 💯fuk dem tears
She needs to take accountability for her actions that may have caused her to have an miscarriage. It’s plenty of women done been in fights while pregnant known and unknown that haven’t had a miscarriage. (Just speaking) she needs to think about the drinking of Alcohol, that can definitely do it, and she also admitted to running. She’s been too rough on her own self.
Why is it that so many girls fight other girls or fight anyone for that matter? She needs anger management. You never solve anything through violence!!! She needs to set a better example for her child and future children. She is so aggressive. She acts like she's looking for a fight acting so aggressively. I hope she gets the help she needs.
On the three sisters story,I'm so glad they are sisters, I'm boo whooing, like it's me in their situation, but thank God they are sisters,God bless and karomo keep up the good work .
Idk if I would have apologize if I hit her. If anybody come at me, man or woman, I’m fighting. If she ran up on him, you can’t expect that man not to defend himself.
He said, he should have let her hit him. Men do not allow women to hit you, it is wrong and shouldn’t be condoned. He was wrong for hitting her but she started it and is not innocent.
Blame blame blame….. at this age she should know how to conduct herself or don’t go to gatherings! Almost 6 weeks? You knew it was a possibility atp u were pregnant….. grow up and be a lady…. And he shouldn’t be hitting on nobody much less than a female…. Mental health? Yea yall got problems
The fact that fighting is normal for them and that a grown behind man feels like it is OK for him to hit a woman smh. I would run. Sometimes famiky is the one you make.
If you want people to be loving towards you then be lovable. Her family is having enough of her toxic mouth and violence. She needs to be the change she wants to see in her life.
They so toxic and dysfunctional... she can care less about the hit.. shes making him feel bad about a pregnancy she didn't even know about and him not being there by blaming him for the miscarriage.. he wasn't 6 ft when she ran up on him but now his size is a issue..
The fact that the family didn't reach out just confirms that this is typical with her furthermore the fact that she thought it was ok 2 fight a man is even more proof. She needs 2B more lady like
@@wisdomwallace7375first and foremost I have to apologize for your miscarriage, and I did not know you that you didn't know that you was pregnant, it makes the story more obscure with what it has happened. However either way though, it still won't be made to be his fault especially if both of you guys did not know you was pregnant. Because if there was a knowing to this then it would be a bit official for him to be at some type of fault when it came to your child. But the fact that you guys both didn't know, even though it's shitty on how it had happened unfortunately there's no real reason to do anything about it especially when you was the one who took retaliation at first hand, in the first place. In the end it's still both of you guys faults not just for the baby, miscarriage but also the way the altercation had to turn out from an argument into a fight.
She's too aggressive and she's the problem attack someone put your hands on someone no matter if they're stronger or not you can get hit don't expect men to take it easy on especially if you start it which happens most times
he a grown ass man, he should not have hit her and they cannot invalidate how she feels her miscarriage happened. the mom did not even tell her grown big son that it is unacceptable. for me I would never be close to them again. The mom is an enabler. they should have never been fighting ever
The caption is not right because she didnt find out she was pregnant until afterward. Placing blame is easier than excepting your participation in the situation. It’s sad but hopefully they can forgive and move forward without the toxicity
Woooh Karamo…..Boy this episode is so crazy… I have a big family and we do not under any circumstances get down like this… my grandparents would be turning over in their graves if we acted like this… I have so many friends that look at my family and say wow I wish my family was like yours. My mother and I are the best of friends and I have so many other friends girls and guy friends who say wow look at you and your mothers relationship. This is crazy like i don’t know anything about this type of life not like my family or not like me and my mother and my siblings this shit is so crazy to see this going on in families our black families because it’s already that Black people don’t protect each other but it’s even worse that our families don’t protect each other I this is crazy😞😔💔
Before he even said a word I knew exactly how he was going to sound lol
Sissy boyish
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There was a speculation! 🙉
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The fact that fighting is normalised for them is sad
Very sad! 🙏🏾
Frr!!
GHETTO
Fighting is normal everyone fights it’s basic human nature lmao
@@Imediatefamz that’s sad I hate that for u that u believe this
She never said that it wasn’t her fault. She was saying that her family wasn’t there for her. They chose a side and that’s why she was hurt. I was drinking & smoking before I found out I was pregnant then I stopped. That wouldn’t have anything to do with a miscarriage unless it had something to do with her body. She got into a fight & he could’ve hit her the wrong way once THEY started fighting then it could’ve caused the baby to die. Regardless that’s family they shouldn’t be fighting each other. They both wrong.
The only sensible comment on this thread so far
I know someone that was out partying every weekend in a month, one weekend where it was an open bar so you know how that go lol, completely unaware that she was 6 weeks pregnant. People often are not aware they’re pregnant until they’re a month or even two. Not saying that alcohol cannot cause a miscarriage, but trust drinking crazy one night like he said she was doing, is not gonna equate to being fought at.
Ppl get tired of babying and defending a trouble maker.
I was going to comment and say that she ain't taking no responsibility for putting her hands on him but she blaming it all on him as usual no accountability
This show gets me through my 12 hour shifts
I swear it get me thorough my 10😌
YESSS
literally me as i’m watching on my 11 hr shift 😭😭😭
Lmfaooo brah I stgg
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BOTH THOSE COUSINS LOOK LIKE THEY GIVE THE BEST HUGS! 🥺
The way Karamo laughed when he replied to her saying “ what do b you mean..fast” while galloping was hilarious
Took me out 😂😂
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Ain’t no way my family gon sit there and let a man touch me . Tuhhhhh
Clock it
The fact that the family watched this fight and didn’t stop it, they need some serious help and therapy families be dysfunctional af
You can have a miscarriage out of a clear blue sky. You really can't determine what caused it but I'm sure drinking fighting and yelling didn't help. At the same time she didn't know she was pregnant which means he didn't know so even if it was his fault it wasn't intentional.
I’ve never been pregnant but I think there’s various factors that could lead to a miscarriage, sometimes things just happen. Tragic nonetheless. Despite the fighting you can see the amount of love they have for each other, so I hope they are doing fine together now.
we are thank you so much for the love🫶🏽
This might be off topic but I’m LIVING for the blue Karamo got on😩😩
Yessss
I’m not going to say he was right for hitting her, but there are many reasons why a miscarriage can happen. To blame him is honestly crazy- especially when she was drinking and hype, probably like that all the time.
You can have a miscarriage from somebody putting they hands on you especially in early pregnancy
Its never OK for any man to hit a woman period
@@NicoleClubhouse and regardless of her drinking, he still put his hands on her. You can do crack and the baby still have a chance to live. Children are born every day, and their mother was on alcohol while pregnant with them.
@@Mikia.N.ThePupZ Girl, you took the words right from my fingertips! He had no business putting his hands on her; especially when he admitted to being the aggressor.
@@NicoleClubhousemy mom was pregnant with twins until my dad hit her and the babies was 6 months, she was drinking and smoking and yet they told her tht it was bc of him hitting my mom bc of the damage that they was seeing even when my mom was pregnant with me she still drunk and smoke
Karamo is going to be 70 years old doing this show just like Maury Povich, but looking at the exact same
😂 Right!!!
black don’t crack😂
Fr he is so fine
Drinking excessively can cause a miscarriage and birth defects plus she was early in the pregnancy fighting acting uncivilized just doing waaaaay too much that baby didn’t stand a chance
Don't she know drinking is the number one leading thing to miscarriages
No a lot of women don’t even know how their body works before they procreate unfortunately 🤦🏾♀️😢
Each week a woman consumes alcohol during the first five to 10 weeks of pregnancy is associated with an incremental 8% increase in risk of miscarriage.
Prenatal alcohol exposure is a leading preventable cause of birth defects and neurodevelopmental disorders in the United States.
Didn’t she say that she didn’t know
She didn’t know she was pregnant
She didn't know she was pregnant. Certainly getting beat up does cause spontaneous abortions way more than alcohol.
This isn’t about who is right or wrong, this is about what is right or wrong. At the end of the day the language we use in our everyday conversations impacts our ability to intentionally connecting with one another. Language matters… intention matters, connection matters and above all relationships matter. Love what you do Karamo! You are an inspiration
They look like twins oh my goodness even the same shape
Losing a baby cause of fighting wow that’s horrible pain I pray she gets through this 😢 I hope they all are doing fine now
Or losing a baby because she’s drinking and stressed from starting arguments
@@guccilady1017 I’ve never heard of anyone losing a baby from drinking even crack babies are born daily but getting into a fight you can definitely lose your kid that way
@@khiyaduoalcohol is the number one leading reason to miscarriages so idk how you ain’t heard that😂
@@khiyaduo ….u can’t be serious rn
@@lifewrayne I hate to burst your bubble but no it’s not Chromosomal abnormalities is the the #1 leading reason love do research please and than hit me with the facts now it’s ok to LOL😂
I am not a M.D. but she's over the top, there are many many reasons for a miscarriage and alcohol is one!
Bless both of them❤
Yall are sick, how can you ignore the fact that this is a big 6 foot, 300lb man putting his hands on a woman and they both admitted that he hits her whenever he's angry, absolutely not, nothing that justifies him hitting a woman
In this cause it was the trauma from the fight that caused the miscarriage. They need to stop fighting
@@ebonimynd4133That's a leap. We will never know what happened unless a Doctor said to her that's the reason. Y'all putting that on him is evil as if with the way she is hands wouldn't have been thrown regardless.
@@marimarielovebe quiet
I’ve been waiting on this episode like I waited on the ice cream truck when I was a child. Just over here anxious.
Same 😂
All love ❤️❤️
Me and my cousin is doing great after the show. We continue to work on our relationship as favorite cousins. We love the positive energy. Shame the negative!!
@@brendontillmon928I’m glad y’all are in a better place ❤
@brendontillmon928 I’m glad you all are doing well. Keep being positive and having open, honest communication with each other with boundaries.
He should've kept his hands to himself but she started it 🤷🏽♀️ you cant be aggressive and in people's face & not expect them to react. She cannot blame him for her miscarriage, she didnt even know she was pregnant! 6 weeks is still early and literally anything could've caused that.
I agree.
I don't condone violence, but she said she loves to hit first, and he knew it.
@@tremonsprings7 just because she’s known for hitting first that doesn’t mean hit her face .
So I guess it’s ok for men to hit women if they in your face but don’t put hands on you?
@@Ghostaredead "he should've kept his hands to himself" literally the first thing i said. its not about whats "ok" its about people being human and you cant be constantly aggressive and expect people to never react.
Karamo is a damn therapist cause the way he let u let it out whoaa
That girl know it wasn’t him that provoked the miscarriage, she just wanted someone to blame so she wouldn’t feel guilty for possibly harming herself
he didn’t cause her miscarriage she was just mad & wanted to blame him due to them always fighting & him not being there for her. it was her constant drinking that caused that… she’s no victim & needs to apologize as well !! ✌🏾
If you run up on me, I'm going to punch you also.
You don't know what caused it dr internet Wannabe
They love each other so much that it's unreal. Is there a codependency there? (I'm not sure) - but it's bittersweet, because we don't intentionally hurt the things/people that we love. And we also know that hurting people hurt people. So... I hope they find a wait to heal and mature ... and keep that love going. FORGIVENESS!
Karamo truly has the gift of healing❤
He shouldn't have never punched her especially before she even hit him, they're both reckless 😫 they need some therapy so they can build a healthier relationship
wait... he was supposed to let her run up on him and hit him? Women need to realize that what you put out there is what you gonna receive. If she was conducting herself like a respectful lady, I guarantee he wouldn't have even thought to put his hands on her. She admitted she was the aggressor and he responded according to her past behavior. Your post should have said NO ONE should put their hands on anyone else. Because if you run up on me... acting mannish... Ima treat you like a man.
He was wrong for putting his hands on her but she can't just automatically blame him fir the miscarriage , she was drinking and she also said she had an miscarriage b4 , so she honestly don't know what the cause of it was
I DID NOT BLAME HIM
@@wisdomwallace7375you did say the fight caused the miscarriage and u said he hit u first causing you 2 to fight, so that's not blaming him
@@Aquanna1982 it's a SHOW boo!
@@wisdomwallace7375 that you went on lol boo back 🤣🤣🤣
OMG I'm not crying because they was arguing, I can see how much love these 2 have for each other, these are cousin sibblings PERIOD and they truly love each other and thank you Karamo for getting them to see that and they can stop abusing each other
as someone else highlighted several factors could have lead to her miscarriage. excessive weight, drinking, "carrying on regular" to her that could be heavy lifting being under stress working a lot etc. He is not to blame as we don't exactly what caused the miscarriage and miscarriages in the early stages of pregnancy is quite common. It's difficult to say he wrong for putting his hands on her because she clearly has a aggression aura which she needs to work on as woman AND a human being. Also, they are family and that is clearly their "normality". Both of them should take this as a lesson to curve their fighting, her tap into her soft feminine side :) ooooO Karamo hit the nail on the head that bouncing back can be unhealthy and he set the boundary by not bouncing back "regardless of what happened"
When the cousin walked out, the episode started giving Jerry Springer 🥴
Girl you should be worried about that…y’all should not be getting physical with each other period. Yeah its all love at the end of the day but that’s not how you move with somebody you love.
Right! She should never be okay with anyone putting their hands on her
i don’t like how she admits she has a attitude problem and always puts her hands on ppl first YET she blames him for her miscarriage. obviously she was doing other things also that could’ve contributed to that.. obviously it’s sad she lost the pregnancy (that nobody knew she had) BUT she can’t project blame onto everyone else and not take some accountability for herself
When she said, "he drinks too! We all drink the same!" But hes not pregnant! Her body probably rejected the pregnancy because of stress
So I’m getting from this that she is selfish and Karamo catered to her to an extent. You can’t run up on a man multiple times and expect nothing to happen. How did he hit you in the face and it made you lose your baby ? By chance, did the alcohol play a part. She is very delusional and if alcohol makes you violent you should not be drinking it, especially while pregnant.
Dummy he hit her in the face & then they started fighting… obviously the face is not where it ended. You must be a man that likes raising your hand to women trying to justify it
But they both admitted they fought hard...he punched her in the face first but they fought fought...however, u still got a point... it could be other factors... Dr should have advised her on that...
first it wasn’t just a punch in the face he fought her so yes it can cause a miscarriage
I COULDN'T IMAGINE ANY OF MY COUSINS FEMALE OR MALE, ARGUING WITH ME LET ALONE HITTING OR FIGHTING ME OMG!!!!!!!
The sad part is its soo normal in the family that no one does anything.
She reminds me of my younger self. I grew up with 5 brothers, all male cousins and uncles in my age range, so this is how I learned to handle conflict. Me, my brothers & cousins fought all the time. My mom didn't approve, but she worked all the time, so she wasn't home to regulate. She was the authoritarian. My dad was in the home, but he didn't care that we fought. His main concern was making sure that we could kick other people's ssa. I have often thought that was a good thing because as an adult, I'm not afraid of anyone, men or women until I realized that if a man lied to me, cheated, hurt my heart or anything related my resolution most times was to hit them and I didn't care whether they hit me back or not. I was satisfied that I slapped or punched them. I had to do some soul searching and make myself understand that was not the correct response. I now walk away from conflict. I don't even argue with people. If we can't have a conversation, then we can't have anything in that moment.
The way Karamo is always spot on 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I love the fact that he stated that hes a man before anything and should've never hit her. It's crazy that she excuses it. 🙏🏾❤
Fighting is there love language 😂😂
The fact that he was made to apologize for the punchnia beyond me,We all know if the roles were switched there would be no apology but praise
“That little twink walk 🤣…..in the moment.” 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
She def owed him an apology to bc he didn’t know she was preg and she stated mult times that was normal for them to fight so it goes back to her jumping in his business. He got up after she asked him to go outside and she came at him bringing that on herself. I respect that he apologized first but she should have apologized as well.
I see two very immature kids who nonetheless love each other but have a lot of growing up to do. Miscarriage is a very traumatic experience for anyone and I'm sorry she went through that. However, I doubt he caused it. Most miscarriages happen because the unborn baby doesn't develop properly. About half to two-thirds of miscarriages in the first trimester are linked with extra or missing chromosomes. They need to stop the physical violence towards each other, and start communicating and listening better to each other
A hard lesson in calming down and keeping your hands to yourself
Wisdom is SO beautiful! ❤❤
Her drinking very well may have been the cause of her miscarriage. It is her responsibility to educate herself, if she's going to carry children, on the risks involved. She should not be drinking or fighting.
Karamo, just wanted to chime in and say I'm glad we're at a point in time where you could be openly gay and still have a completely positive comment section.
If you dropped this show in like 1995, that'd be unthinkable
I dont feel like she really think the Baby being loss was her thinking he was the reason. The fight could have been the reason her drinking could have been the reason. I think its her possibly feeling alone or not having people on her side. She keep expressing how no one checked on her when she explained it
Thank you, it was production boo
@wisdomwallace7375 it was clear to me that you were upset that at the end of the day your cousin/brother wasn't there for you. Therapy is very healthy...I hope that both of you can get the help you deserve. My cousin/brother haven't really spoken in 7 years. I understand that hurt.. he wasn't even there for me when my Mama passed. I've let my anger go but he has to do the same..I'm rooting for ya'lls relationship to be healthier and stronger than before ...to be clear both of ya'll need Jesus😉 🫶🏾🙏🏾
They actually love each other. God help them both.
Ì had at least 16 miscarriages that I know of I'm blessed with 3(premature)kids.
A loss is always painful...but
Don't blame your couzz... You made him feel like a m.rd.. r!
Both you were in a bad situation...
He apologized but she need to calm down her temper....
You can lose a child because of stress but it started with yourself...
And you didn't even know you're pregnant...
Don't stress yourself, especially when it's not worth it...small things...what they can cause if you let it...😢
Stay strong and happy y'all ❤
Sheesh.
This was pretty wholesome, so much love in that room!❤
Its not a struggle. I understand where she is coming from regarding nobody said he was wrong for punching her. I have the same dynamic in my family. I made a decision to limit contact with family members who condone wrong actions and not saying that person is wrong. Its gaslighting.
That’s terrible. Sorry you had to be raised around that
It’s her saying the alcohol didn’t kill the baby the fight did . how do you know that for sure ???? That’s a huge stretch to blame someone instead of taking accountability
Some women love to play the “he shouldn’t of hit me cus I’m a woman” did you know you were a woman when you went to turn that man ? You can’t try to attack someone and then play victim. Just like no woman should get beat on no man should
Get beat on either.
I fight the world I don't fight you. I'm gone use that one. Thanks Big Bro Kamaro ! ❤
both drinking and fighting will kill a baby , u cant just say its because of one person bc that baby is living inside u.. You literally could be the main one hurting the baby
I’m sorry I’m on his side keep your hands to yourself and stop drinking girl
Can't get enough of this show❤❤❤❤....I love what you do karamo❤❤❤ Great job...🇰🇪
that youn man made me cry😩when he said he was with her at the hospital! i could not hold it, ii made me cry, is very sad, they love each other, i could see their frustration.Hope they can resolve their problem,
The family knows & seen first hand she's the problem! That's why they didn't interfere!
Ratched behavior. Fighting like this IS NOT NORMAL. Get help or see all ya’ll going to jail, laughing then doing the same all over.
‘ Bye .😂 when Karamo was laughing ts had me dead .😂😂😂😂
The aunt said she did that before, both of them including the aunt also said they fight all the time, with all that being disclosed she shouldn’t ran up on him he’s familiar with her behavior and that’s why he reacted the way he did, she needs to calm down her behavior, yes indeed it’s unfortunate that she lost her baby but alcohol could have definitely been a cause for a miscarriage, im glad they made up..
Thank you
The blame aportioned is too heavy for one party. They are both responsible. Also they need to stop screaming at eachother they are old people. You can be heard loud and clear without raising your voice and yelling at fhe other party.
A person without family is like a tree without roots
She must be the trouble maker in the family and how do you find out your’re pregnant if yourre out there sexing without condom. Obviously you will get pregnant
I had her same attitude at one point and it led me to be in a 6 year abusive relationship.
I’ve always been a fighter but before that relationship I hadn’t fought anyone since maybe 10th grade. I was just turning 24 when we started dating.
I remember the first time he put his hands in me. Of course I going back but the thing is he manipulated me at the same time. He said when I went out with my friends I was drunk and told them he was broke (he was long story) but I never said one thing about him. I hadn’t even had a drink and at that point I had never been drunk a day in my life. The next morning I woke up and I apologized to him something I never do. I’ll never forget it I apologized knowing in my heart I didn’t do anything wrong nor was I drink or had been drinking.
But that fighting mentality caused me to be in a cycle that seemed like it would never end. I remember going to work yet again applying makeup to my black eye and thinking this is not right. I shouldn’t have to fight someone I love. And that’s the moment I knew I was in an abusive relationship.
It still took me 4 years to actually leave for good but I’ve never been happier. When he realized I was done he came and shot up my house. Called my job with lies and caused me to get fired even though I showed them the restraining order I had against him. Until this day he’s still on the run and I wish nothing but the worst for him.
Lastly he too killed my baby. I found out I was pregnant he knew too. He started fighting me got on top of me and as soon as I got up I had the urge to pee. And there was my baby in the toilet. I placed it in a small ziplock bag and proceeded to the ER. I didn’t hear from him for days.
They love each to death seems like literally. She might be over protective of him or jealous because she doesn’t want him talking to other people.
Sounds like he is trying to make it on his own.
She lost her baby cause of her actions the drinking excessively and putting yourself in a situation to fight not his fault she just needed someone to blame 💯fuk dem tears
She needs to take accountability for her actions that may have caused her to have an miscarriage. It’s plenty of women done been in fights while pregnant known and unknown that haven’t had a miscarriage. (Just speaking) she needs to think about the drinking of Alcohol, that can definitely do it, and she also admitted to running. She’s been too rough on her own self.
Why is it that so many girls fight other girls or fight anyone for that matter? She needs anger management. You never solve anything through violence!!! She needs to set a better example for her child and future children. She is so aggressive. She acts like she's looking for a fight acting so aggressively. I hope she gets the help she needs.
I loved them ❤ you can tell they are close like brother and sister!
Drinking, getting stressed, physical abuse and even sperm can cause miscarriages. Its all their fault even hers.
I was not expecting that voice lol
On the three sisters story,I'm so glad they are sisters, I'm boo whooing, like it's me in their situation, but thank God they are sisters,God bless and karomo keep up the good work .
Idk if I would have apologize if I hit her. If anybody come at me, man or woman, I’m fighting. If she ran up on him, you can’t expect that man not to defend himself.
He said, he should have let her hit him. Men do not allow women to hit you, it is wrong and shouldn’t be condoned. He was wrong for hitting her but she started it and is not innocent.
Blame blame blame….. at this age she should know how to conduct herself or don’t go to gatherings! Almost 6 weeks? You knew it was a possibility atp u were pregnant….. grow up and be a lady…. And he shouldn’t be hitting on nobody much less than a female…. Mental health? Yea yall got problems
She blame cousin probably for everything
I love it this was a good episode 🫶🏽
Well anything can cause a miscarriage from drinking alcohol to receiving a beating.
The fact that fighting is normal for them and that a grown behind man feels like it is OK for him to hit a woman smh. I would run. Sometimes famiky is the one you make.
If you want people to be loving towards you then be lovable. Her family is having enough of her toxic mouth and violence. She needs to be the change she wants to see in her life.
They so toxic and dysfunctional... she can care less about the hit.. shes making him feel bad about a pregnancy she didn't even know about and him not being there by blaming him for the miscarriage.. he wasn't 6 ft when she ran up on him but now his size is a issue..
I say that alll the time, I’m already fighting the world, I’m not about to fight you💯
Violence is so normal to some families it’s whack
I hope as cousins they work this out that is a good relationship
I love his attitude 😂😂😂 "8 shots of crown royal"
The fact that the family didn't reach out just confirms that this is typical with her furthermore the fact that she thought it was ok 2 fight a man is even more proof. She needs 2B more lady like
So wait... neither of you knew that you were pregnant?
no not til i found out i was miscarrying!
@@wisdomwallace7375first and foremost I have to apologize for your miscarriage, and I did not know you that you didn't know that you was pregnant, it makes the story more obscure with what it has happened. However either way though, it still won't be made to be his fault especially if both of you guys did not know you was pregnant. Because if there was a knowing to this then it would be a bit official for him to be at some type of fault when it came to your child. But the fact that you guys both didn't know, even though it's shitty on how it had happened unfortunately there's no real reason to do anything about it especially when you was the one who took retaliation at first hand, in the first place. In the end it's still both of you guys faults not just for the baby, miscarriage but also the way the altercation had to turn out from an argument into a fight.
She's too aggressive and she's the problem attack someone put your hands on someone no matter if they're stronger or not you can get hit don't expect men to take it easy on especially if you start it which happens most times
Not the kitten heels. With her mouth she got what she walked up on him for.
and that's why the family didn't intervene, they been waiting for someone to humble her.
She has a jealous streak.
Should’ve talked more about the drinking Other then that great video
She wasn't aware she was pregnant from what I've heard her say
he a grown ass man, he should not have hit her and they cannot invalidate how she feels her miscarriage happened. the mom did not even tell her grown big son that it is unacceptable. for me I would never be close to them again. The mom is an enabler. they should have never been fighting ever
Yes he should’ve they fight alll the time she ran up on him them fight is not new
@@calmREACTS and I said they should have NEVER been fighting and she did not run up on him. Learn to listen
The drinking is what did it....
The caption is not right because she didnt find out she was pregnant until afterward. Placing blame is easier than excepting your participation in the situation. It’s sad but hopefully they can forgive and move forward without the toxicity
Not mr sassy pants🥴🥴🤭!! I’m surprised y’all not arguing about the OBVIOUS 🧐😏
Woooh Karamo…..Boy this episode is so crazy… I have a big family and we do not under any circumstances get down like this… my grandparents would be turning over in their graves if we acted like this… I have so many friends that look at my family and say wow I wish my family was like yours. My mother and I are the best of friends and I have so many other friends girls and guy friends who say wow look at you and your mothers relationship. This is crazy like i don’t know anything about this type of life not like my family or not like me and my mother and my siblings this shit is so crazy to see this going on in families our black families because it’s already that Black people don’t protect each other but it’s even worse that our families don’t protect each other I this is crazy😞😔💔
What in the saucy Santana is going on here 😅😅😅