The Star Z-63 Submachine Gun: Better Than You Think
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2017
- The Star Z-63 is a 9x19mm version of the Star Z-62, which was made in both 9x19 and 9x23. Together, these represent the company’s effort to produce a more modern submachine gun than their Z-45, which was basically a copy of the German MP-40. The Z-63 is, contrary to its external appearance, a well built gun with several clever internal safety mechanisms. It uses a spring loaded firing pin which only protrudes when the bolt is fully closed, and also has a lock on the bolt that prevent it from moving rearward unless either fired or cycled using the charging handle. This prevents potential accidental discharge if the gun is dropped.
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My father used the Z-63 during the obligatory military service, in the 80's. He say that is a amazing gun, now he still love it.
It's a beautiful weapon.
Still in use in some units of military and police.... 🙈
Mine is still blaming the Rey Emerito for stealing him 1 week of permission. When he was returning from the Adriatic sea they took his ship (Santa Maria frigate) to protect the king's yate in it's way to Lisboa.
Te lo dejo en inglés para los guiris
Also he remembers having it in his hands, he says that he likes it more than the CETME
En el 88 yo ya tenía el Z70
I live in Arizona I have a collection of Spanish star Firearms I love them all
En España se nos ha dado muy bien el arte de la guerra, desde la falcata Ibérica terror de los romanos pasando por las espadas roperas del siglo xvii con los tercios viejos de infantería españoles terror de Europa hasta el mauser español 1893 y las pistolas Astra 400 muy cotizadas por los oficiales alemanes en la Segunda Guerra Mundial y la División Azul
La armería española, concretamente la Armería Vasca de los siglos XVII y XVIII de las mejores eel mundo.
Con la "Transición", al entrar en la UE muchas de las fábricas con solera se reciclaron a la fabricación de tornillería y herramientas.
@@rubenjj5948 tendras que hablarle en ingles
Probably you know or maybe you have it, i recommend a revolver astra or a beauty 9mm short, really beauty firearms. Hi from spain!!
My first toy gun when I was a kid 34 yrs ago was a copy of this. It had batteries and lit up when fired, and the dual triggers even worked. If I'm not mistaken, it was made in Spain. I've wanted the real thing since !
that's actually really cool
I had that one too! With the orange barrel tip, right?
Forgotten toy weapons channel, when?
Im pretty sure I had this as a toy as a kid too.
I had that toy too...
The "S" from "safe" must be from "seguro" and the "f" of "fire","fuego"
That's very likely.
It most definitely is. F for fuego, and S for Seguro.
To be true the “F” means “fuego” and the “S” also means “fuego”😂
Viva Epaña coño
SF. Super Franco
That's a seriously well thought out design, I have to say.
This is actually a pretty cool gun.
lol looks like the Stormtrooper blaster when the stocks folded up
"Universal dissasembly tool." You know I'm something of a gun enthusiast myself, I have a whole cup of those. /smug face
Kinda reminds me of that time the ATF concluded a string was a machinegun.
Esta misma arma la tuvo mi abuelo en los 70 cuando estaba en la guardia civil. Buen video Ian, instructivo y entretenido como siempre.
Alejandro Bastida Ruiz y yo creyendo que era el ultimo español por cierto no seras tu mi primo😹😹😹
@@pablobastidaalbaladejo751 no serás tu primo 3º mío? (Atajo)
Is there anything *not* at RIA this auction?
An RSC. I looked. I need another one.
Give us time. We got you.
Stephen Keeler oh hush, we got one of them
Howdy. Happy Friday!
G11
looks like an enlarged tec-9
Well...anything with that gangsta hand guard looks like an enlarged Tec-9....
i'm sure the barrel has something to do with it
Looks more like a straight Sterling ^^.
But tec 9 is a pistol and this is a smg. But both are sisters.
Looks like a bullet hose to me.
that selector setup just absolutely blew my mind
that is so cool
loving the videos recently Ian!
spef
Nice pic.
Alex that is a very scary picture!
not as scary as your's, spef :P
Hello handsome.
spef if you didn't find me scary, I will find you.
The one occasion where giving the middle finger means you're going light on people instead of discrarging full-auto.
The surface treatment is named in spanish "fosfatado", something like "phosphated", and is the same in the Cetme C. Thank yo for the channel
I for one love spanish weapons and knives.
Toledo blades have been acknowledged as some of the best in the world for centuries
@@adrianfirewalker4183 since the Roma Empire
Un arma de fascistas españoles
Peiper y arriba España
@@josesilesgarcia9859 Eso con Goma2!!!
This Star weapon was the gun I used in my spanish military service during guards. But it had a sealed trigger and we werent able to use it, so nobody died accidentally.
So they were show guns? How could you guard with an unusable weapon
@@juliuspeperwood1128 Because only the guard knew it was unusable!
Lol They gave you a on usable gun to guard with I thought it was just the US military that made us do stupid things
@@chevyvet69 May I ask why they give you unusable weapons to guard a position? Even a pistol would be better than that
@@mayorgeneralramirez1997 Because they were 12 months militia kids. It was for preventing them to kill themselves or someone else by accident.
Why do I love submachine guns so much? If I ever get into gun collecting, I feel like that's the route I'd go.
Even though an older video, I love the way you tell about the guns. I've never heard about this gun before, but now really want one! Nice to see some manufacturers going the other route than to oversimplify the gun.
Am i the only one here who laughs when he says universal disassembly tool while using the pen? He does that in every video it makes me laugh lol :D
Obviously a fan of Doctor Who.
That bolt mechanism is inspirational.
What a clever and practical design.
Thanks for sharing.
Wow, no look at the trigger group?? I'm surprised that Ian overlooked the opportunity to examine not only a trigger housing but a unique dual hinging and sliding trigger like this! TRIGGERED.
Should try the STAR Z-70B, it was even better.
cool gun! oddly the double trigger reminds me of a paintball gun. Competition guns aren't allowed to be full auto. So they use incredibly light electronic double triggers to achieve a high rate of fire.
Great job of examining the design. In particular, the bolt safety which locks the bolt to prevent accidental firing if the gun is dropped.
I know I would never see or know anything about a lot of firearms out in the world if it wasn't for this channel. Thanks for what you do. I enjoy watching every video.
that was a cool bolt design! thanks for the video
I'm a big fan of simplicity. I like it.
Even with the bad reputation they could have in the US, spanish guns and knifes are actually quite good. But of course there was german help involved.
That was key in the whole part there was Germans involved lol Who make some of the best guns on the planet
@@chevyvet69 Italians?
@@InfernosReaper Thats a good one lmao
@@InfernosReaper no, italians make good shotguns and maybe pistol but that's it.
@@InfernosReaper nah we don't, belgians maybe
Yo la he probado y es un buen arma. Gracias por el vídeo saludos desde España
Kinda looks like it's made from a cast iron skillet.
It's all in the coating. If you've ever been around old projectors or generally old equipment, kinda the same feel to it. It's that "sharpei" paint, as i like to call it.
I've also seen it described as a "crackle finish".
It probably was one at some point.
Ian you are the best!
you know your stuff and you were born to do this no one could be as informative as you faciating what ever I can do to support your channel .let me know
thanks Thomas Corbett
Los Angeles CA
What a well thought out drop safety.
Benjamin Etxaburu What keeps the ratchet from engaging during normal firing. He says the charging handle depresses button thus dropping the ratchet. But what about when it’s firing?
This machine-gun is a great weapon. Used for decades by spanish Green Berets COEs-GOEs (colloquially "Guerrilleros"). Powerful, reliable, dynamic & easy SMG to maintan. Nice vídeo 👍👍👍
Guardia Civil too I think. Guerrilleros de montaña lo forman unos chavales... ♪
the firing pin safety is ingenious!
You've shown how the manual loading handle pushes the small button on the bolt, but how does it get pushed when cycling in auto?
This is a great subgun!
these was long ago reserved for military police only, army uses CETME 5,56
That is one really awesome weapon! The only thing missing is a vertical forward grip.
Very cool! Awesome selection of guns recently.
Ian, you make really entertaining videos. You are definitely gun-jesus, much love from Costa Rica!
That and the Beretta you just covered are freakin' beautiful. God I want one.
Very interesting and has what became very obvious to me was it's finish being like as you said like the British Sterling SMG. We fired the Sterling and trained on it in Special Forces Weapons Training and everyone loved it. Looks like a very compact and very interesting SMG. Great knowledge on weapons Ian. You should be invited to come to Fort Bragg and lecture to the SF Troops going through Weapons training and to the A-Teams. Great job as always Ian.
Looks like a weird mix of the Uru and the beretta PM-12s
Since I'm not sure which came out first, I want say that the dbl trigger reminds me of paint ball makers, like the old 98's. Fun lil stamped steel guy that has some neat features, Ian. Thanks for presenting this!
let's get that z-63 on a tray - nice!
I like this gun, very simple but very functional and complete. Easy to understand just by looking at it too which all good guns should be.
Really cool little gun I had no idea about!
Ian keep up the good work I have seen every episode
I am amaze of this sub machinegun feature's.
Looks like a nice design. Good safety features, plenty of barrel ventilation. Looks pretty rugged, and the sights are stout. If the buttplate could swing 90 degrees when tbe stock is folded, it would make a decent vertical foregrip. Spanish stuff is a little different, but it can be good. Never heard anything bad about the Destroyer carbine, their Mauser carbines, etc. The Firestar from the 90's was a nice pistol. Always meant to get one and never did.
A neat looking gun. Thanks for the video (and all the others!)
Ian can you make follow up videos where you ask the people
who bought the guns to let you make a video of them firing?
Thanks for making this happen.
I like the look of this, good design features
This looks great to use as a semi-auto only home build template. I would modify it to fire 7.62X25 Tok so I could use my PPS-43 magazines.
Very nice , I like the bolt safety
I wouldn't mind owing this gun. Really nice and simple.
Great bolt design on this one
I love these vids, but i'm really hoping for one about the FAR and G3 in this style
Loving the SMG Videos lately mate!
It looks like a Sterling and an MAT-49 had a baby.
I have an old star compact 45. It is solid&great design.
That lovely little thing could easily sneak into Star Wars as a blaster.
normaly someone would say what's with all that safety..well, units that use light machineguns like this move fast and on all kind of closed enviroment, houses, small streets etc, and its very easy to bomb into something or you may plunge down on enemy fire and things like that ,and you may indeed shoot your weapon just by a hit on a wall or debris .. so yea, for a gun made in the early 60's, this is VERY nice :) .glad you show us some things like this to apreciate more what hidden gems people made even so far in the past.that firing pin safety is smart .
One of The best looking submachine gun I have seen!
Basque industry excellent quality!
my uncle used to carry this when he was an escort for high ranking military officers; safety off and an unarmored car. Not the best job, little pay.
This reminds me of a tippman paintball gun for some reason, though the t98 doesn’t really look like this
Another great video Ian. One thing that would have been nice is to go into the barrel and it's removal.
Does the gun have more recoil from the bolt reciprocating, rather than the recoil from the round being fired?
That's a pretty cool looking SMG :)
Well now I know where the design for the automag paintball gun comes from. lol
A lot of people trying to guess how the locking lever gets out of way when firing.
I found an exploded drawing of this gin on the web.
As far as I can presume, if the locking lever is pushed by its axis (when the bolt is pushed back by the exploding forces), its locking tip will retract because the heavier portion of the locking lever is on the oposite side of the lever's pivot; but, if all parts are driven by inertia (if the butt hits the floor), this heavier part will push the locking tip against the recess machined inside the the tubular body.
I knew a weapons designer who used this same concept, but on the oposite manner (the locking lever was mounted on the body and its intercepting tip was raised behind the bolt by inertia). It was incorporated on a series of guns named BERGON and LAPA.
The solution employed on the URU seems to be much simpler. The Star lacks some type of safety to prevent the gun from firing if the charging handle escapes while cocking, like the latest UZIs and the Walther MPL, but if you use handloads, that Thompson moving firing pin makes a big difference. I saw one of these weapons, I am not sure if it was at Sevilla or Valência military museum, maybe both, I visited these museums in 2011.
Good to know it's there!
Of course I can't get it just looking for that drawing (the same found on Military Small Arms Of the 20th Century, 7th Edition).
It has many tension springs, I dislike these springs, they may get broken in one second or two hundred years... nobody knows when. Does the 70 have the same moving firing pin? (May I call this firing pin "seesaw type firing pin"?)
Forgotten Weapons has a video on URU. I suspect it has no other safety measure than an inertia operated blocking sear, and this device is very easy to understand on the video. I still can't understand how that trigger works. I am trying to solve it using a raster image on CAD (trigger, sear and disconnector on the same piece? no axis hole? URU deserves to be studied, I can't recall such a simple trigger on any other SMG).
The brazilian URU-solution is surely ten times cheaper... But this charging-handle/rod is also ten times cheaper than the Owen 2-chamber-upper-assembly for avoiding open throughholes on the upper assembly (for the charging-handle), thus keeping the space behind the bolt free of dirt...
I was 8 years old when my mom bought me my first carbine; to my surprise was made in Spain but not sure what brand was; all that I remember is that I was the most happy kid in my neighborhood.
Probably Gamo or Norica one 😉
Marcos Diaz It was about 50 years ago
Gamo is 60 years old
Cool boltdesign.
What mechanism bypasses the drop safety lug on the bolt when firing the gun? It seems to me that it would catch every time you fired the gun since the charging rod isn't depressing the button on the bolt.
I love these simple smg things. When i get my ffl imma build one
This, and the beretta m12 were my favorites.
An Uru with this thing's trigger, mag well, and magazines would be cool.
Very cool...I like it
Guns of the 60s are awesome.
You should do a video on the Star Z-45 if you ever get the chance. I've been interested in those ever since parts kits started showing up a few years back.
My experience with the star z-70 was that it is a good gun if you want to shoot high. I was expecting some recoil the first time, but instead the gun went up in full auto far beyond the shooting field. That happens when you only can shoot 30 bullets every three or six months. But anyway, it is simple, good enough and cheap as an sten. Oh, and if you don´t like your front teeth, some conscripts use to break their face when cleaning the gun, the strong spring helps a lot.
Tec-9 and sterling had a baby. This is what came out.
Fired these sub machine guns back in the 1970s, always used two fingers to fire, recoil was light, worked well, just weird using two fingers to fire the weapon, one finger was too hard to pull the trigger in FA
i think the semiauto/auto trigger is really neat!
I did my service in the Spanish military police with one of those.... so long ago :(
So how does the bolt travel back and lock open when firing? The charging handle is not reciprocating so how does that safety pin get pressed to allow the bolt to travel?
I'm trying to get my head clear on this weapon. The catch that locks the bolt forward to prevent an AD is released by pulling back on the charging handle, ok. Got that. What keeps the catch released when firing the weapon? The charging handle doesn't reciprocate so it's not imparting force on that release. Why doesn't the gun go into lockup when fired? It surely isn't a speed issue or there would be an area of finish where inside the tube behind the catch indentation.
I know this is an older video but this has me a bit puzzled. If I had access to one of these, I could easily figure that out but I don't.
Thank You!
5:15 That whoosh sound!
Well put ol' chap.
how does the round firing allow the bolt to move back? it has that lock on the side for a drop safety which without something acting on it when fired would act like a pseudo locking lug.
It's really close to the Beretta PM12, and in fact both SMG's entered production in 1962. Same size (more or less), same caliber, same magazine capacity, same rate of fire.
Oh that is a really cool submachine gun I wish I could own it I wish they made more of them also there's probably only a few made.
Star is the best ever!
Fire, Ultra, Mega... they're all good!
Now I would like to see a Z-45.
nice spanish guns are awesome.
not really, i have serve in spanish legion i can tell you that the best weapons we have are german ones HK G36 and MG74
@@jorgearias1387 Jorge Arias is southamerican not Spanish. Attack always Spain
_"The Star Z-63 Submachine Gun: Better Than You..."_
THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF MY CHILDHOOD, IAN.
Me encanta esta arma la usé muchos años en la Policía de Uruguay, después H&K MP-5 y al final la fmk-3. Pero la z-63, fue mi sub fusil preferido
I don't have any experience with Spanish firearms, but I know the G3 was second to the Cetme, and I've always heard good things about Cetme/G3/HK91. What firearms gave Spain a bad reputation for gun quality?
A fine video, as always. I really appreciate your presentation, I never, *ever* get tired of the way you show the weapon, give the history, and generally teach me how to disassemble firearms I likely will never see, let alone take down. That isnt sarcasm, I'm a warfare history fan, a mechanics nerd, and old gun fan. This channel is almost drug like....
Sam Moon La mala reputación (más artificial que real) viene tanto de la leyenda negra secular, como de la ignorancia. Es cierto que, durante la primer guerra mundial, España vendió mucho de todo a las potencias beligerantes caro y de mala calidad (oportunismo que hemos pagado carísimo) Es posible que venga de ahí también. De todos modos, Alemania nos encargó durante la segunda guerra mundial muchas armas que son de primerísima calidad. Por algo sería. España lleva siglos haciendo armamento y con una historia militar y naval única en el mundo.
Ian, I've probably missed something, but how does the bolt cycle, with the locking safety, once a cartridge has been fired, if nothing is pushing on locking piece? (Also thanks for the vids)
Machine gun month. I see you already had a bolt bitten finger. Great job man, great channel!