I feel like Ian can just SMELL these rare firearms and tracks them for miles across dozens of auction houses, nose to the floor and sniffing them out like a bloodhound.
This gun looked like it was designed by someone who was haunted by WWI. So much protection against the environment, maneuverable in a trench, and simple to maintain.
The problem was that the French clearly had no idea what Germany had planned. They definitely weren't up for stalemate type battles until later in the war.
@@genghiskhan6809 I can understand those who use vulgarity in their speach, but are you unable to avoid it in your written comments? It adds nothing good to your comments.
that got me by surprise too. Usually Ian says "this gun is very easy to dissasemble" and then proceeds to go through several steps that take quite a long time and usually the assistance of his universal dissassembly tool...this time he said "this gun is very easy to dissasemble" and 5 seconds later the thing was dissasembled. I was like O.o XD
"The French do things a little differently". No kidding Ian, if you have ever driven or owned a Citroen car, you can find yourself both cursing and praising its designers at the same time!
Stacy Brown hahaha I'm from the uk to get a bolt action in anything above .22lr I have to do a similar background check to your one for a literal machine gun, you Americans have nothing to complain about
123 456 I understand your point of view. While we have much less to complain about than you do, we still have to stand up and voice our concerns to keep what we still have. I and others are still trying to regain what was lost. You and other like minded folks in the UK might do well to try and hope for similar movement towards freedom.
This gun has a chequered history in France. It is often seen as a symbol of the MILICE, the Vichy French equival;ent of the Gestapo , and no I'm not kidding, the MILICE were the same.
German policy in occupied countries was to bend local officialdom to it's way of thinking. Especially with the deportation of Jews and arrest of undesirables. I come from Jersey , that is in the Channel Island's and was Occupied from 1940 till the very end of the war, May 9th 1945. Though the German's went of thier way to be 'Correct', when Hitler ordered the Internment of British subjects not born in the Island, local Police officers were expected to arrest the people involved. In most of the rest of Europe they didn't even bother with pretence.
Not full autos. The process is if the barrel is smooth you need a Permite De Portage from the Parish Hal, is the barrel is rifled you need a States Police FAC. For those who wonder abour the term State's. Jersey has 2 Police forces, a parish based Honary force and an Island based Force operated by the States of Jerset.
51WCDodge What also helped the Germans at the time, in doing this, was widespread Anti-Semitism. It’s a lot easier to round people up and send them to camps when their neighbours don’t like them either.
Re: French Paratroops using these - I once read an account by a British Paratroop officer placed with a French Paratroop unit during the Suez Crisis in which he described French Paratroops who were armed with other weapons such as rifles using these as secondary weapons firing down at ground targets with these as they descended toward their hot drop zone. The British Paratrooper was saved by such a French Paratrooper who used one of these on an enemy soldier who was about to shoot him as he struggled to unstrap his own gun from his leg binding. Always struck be as a dodgy thing to do shooting past one's own feet and lower parts as one descended, possibly, erratically, in a parachute but I can't imagine a Brit making that up. Firing on the descent aside, it seems like a good idea to have such a weapon immediately available in a very hot drop zone and equipping some soldiers with two different guns like that seems like great free thinking to me. I imagine buttstocks would have been dispensed with.
Makes sense in such a Self Defense situation. Unlike WW2 German Paratroopers, who besides dropping with uncontrolable chutes, jumped with only holstered pistols (I think); having to retrieve their weapons from Pods that were dropped seperately !
I think that's a very cool safety, and I'm not just saying that because I'm french myself, but because it's the type of safety that can never get you shot for lack of bullets coming out of the barrel when you pull the trigger in a combat or self defence situation.
Yeah, but there's a difference between trying to stop a whale like Mussolini when he is free to move and raging on crack or bath salts and you are firing from a pistol, VS. having him captive and able to empty a whole SMG magazine into him, knowing that even if this does not kill him instantly, he is defenceless and will never reach medical care. It's way, way more powerful than .32 ACP, not as powerful as .30 Mauser
That's actually really impressive in a lot of ways. Cool features! Though it looks costly to make compared to the stamped sheet technology that took over in so many countries. As far as the cartridge... My opinion, if it's powerful enough to go through heavy clothing and a few inches of torso, then it's deadly enough. Especially if the low recoil leads to better hit ratio from the user. Your chances of surviving a dozen bullets in the chest isn't great even if they are small bullets.
At first I didn't think much of this gun, but the design elements, and the pure and simple nature of them fascinates me! This has replaced the Madsen M50 as my favorite smg!
I can feel the love Ian has for this weapon through the video. The tension is unreal, hopefully a CHEAP but RELIABLE source of 7.65 French long falls into his lap.
use to own a ww2 French 1935a pistol, it was a great gun but ammo for it was so hard to find. so I went to my Fort Worth Original Gun Show and a vendor sold me a box of that surplus all steel bullet with the orginal box of 32 rounds. only to find out they were all duds, thereafter I look online and that was common for the ammo to be shot nowadays. so I saw a vendor that made handloads from using brass of .32 S&W long shaved down to the specifications of 7.65 MAS. and they cycled and ran fine. was glad to at least shoot it before I gave up on it.
Good to know that some peoples respect the frenchies ('caus I'm french too,I can teach you some words if you want),and don't always do jokes on surrendering (but the "hon hon hon" ones make me laugh actually)...
And lo and behold! Ian's MAS-38 is finally up and running again, finally, AND has ammo for it! After how long!? Haha, who else came here right after Ian's new video of him (finally) shooting his?
Well, the price suffers from being French and a hard to find caliber I'm sure. But thats great for those of us who recognize that French firearms aren't bad. I wish Americans had a negative stereotype towards Swiss rifles haha
C'est Magnifique, Monsieur . Thank you so much for your great insight into the MAS and MAT firearms, which, in the past, I have never found easy access to. Back in the early 1980's, in Paris, I saw the foot Gendarme carrying the MAT MGs and always thought they were cool. Yes, during several trips to France I found the French culture to be laid back, which I like and it certainly makes them very different to other nations.
As one of the Tappet Brothers (Tom and Ray Magliozzi) said, "The French copy no one and no one copies the French." The comment was originally applied to a Peugeot car.
Really like some of the elements in this. The locking dust cover is really clever, as is the safety. Would it just not have been easier to raise the sights and keep the barrel angle flat rather than having complex cuts on the bolt face? As it's an SMG and the sights only go out to 200m, it's not designed for long range engagement anyway
Mauw Chan But the C96 carabine is more a pistol than a SMG and it sucks, the MAS 38 is a reliable weapon, have 32 rounds and have the same fire rate as the German MP-40.
The downward tilted barrel and offset sights remind me of the Bloch M.152 fighter, which had its nose (and propeller) canted off to the left. In that case, the angling was to offset the torque of the engine and propeller.
It looks like a very solid little SMG. A tradeoff in power for controlled shooting to stay on target and ability to carry more ammo, not a bad compromise.
The 32 French long shell was issued 2 ways as a brass cartridge case and copper clad bullet being rarer than the steel cased one with a TURNED STEEL bullet. This load is much more potent than you would think. While it never expands at all it does give very good penetration. Shooting 32 French Long out of a M35S into wet Sears catalogs it went twice as deep than 45 ACP ball and deeper than Nazi produced 9 mm ball. The French long and the 9 mm ball also penetrated a 70s era Chevy bumper that stopped the 45 Ball. Shooting cement blocks produced sparks with almost every hit. I have a small supply of the steel ammo but the longer I've had it the higher the percentage of dud rounds now about 75% when i got the ammo in the 1960s it was 20%. There is an interesting French movie " the old gun" that depicts a man with a double barreled shotgun taking revenge on a group of MIlice armed with Mas 38 s who killed his wife.
I had to slow down from my usual 1.5x watching speed for the disassembly, else I'd miss it! I like how the gun looks and how simple, yet elegant it was designed to be.
I think I may actually get into gunsmithing due to this channel. I've already gotten my toes wet with minor metal working, and it just dawned on me that I'd be personally satisfied with crafting firearms. I don't really care that I couldn't sell them without proper authorization. I just want to make them. Thank you Ian. You just may have helped me find my life's calling. It only took many months of viewing and indecision on my part.
i was just looking at this gun on the rock island website! im fascinated in french firearms, is there any chance of you doing a video on the mat-49? i know they're super hard to come by but i just gotta see that folding mag disassembled!
And with this video watched I have now viewed every forgotten weapons video Ian has ever made and anxiously await the next new one I don't know what I'm going to do with my life now that I don't have old forgotten weapons videos to watch.
I had no idea this was such a neat well thought out gun. Wow I really dig it. It would be a little boss in 9mm para. I can picture a folding stock, like a sliding MP5 style, to make it even more compact. Carried by a single point sling I can see the usefulness of it even by todays standard.
I have one of these in my house. I used to have the original leather strap, but it became brittle and was too far gone to save. the gun is still functional but i have never fired it.
I see two issues with that safety: it has to be engaged in order to prevent the bolt from bouncing if dropped, and it seems easy to accidentally pull the trigger when disengaging it
Hey Indy I once saw an interesting pic of a Mas 38 online somewhere that was re chambered in 7.65 Tokarev. According to the poster it was a gift from his father who served in Vietnam and he found it on the body of a dead Viet Cong soldier. Also on the subject of Vietnam, contrary to what a lot of games and movies show, it was much more common for Viet Cong and even North Vietnamese soldiers to carry Mas 38 and MAT 49 submachine guns as well as German K98ks and French Mas 36 rifles rather than AK47s. The main reason being that not only did the NVA steal a lot of French weapons but they also were donated a lot of captured Germans weapons given to them via the Soviet Union. Eventually the AK47 did become the main weapon of the NVA but that didn't happen towards the end of the war.
Ian, the thought just occurred to me. You've been exposed to literally thousands of different firearm designs, from all over the world, from nearly all eras of firearms development. Why don't you take a crack at designing your own gun one day? I can't think of a person better qualified to be the next "John Moses Browning", you know so much about guns that people call you "Gun Jesus" for crying out loud. You never know, you might just come up with something revolutionary. Please like this comment so Ian could see it.
I kind of hoped that was what was happening with the "What Would Stoner Do" project... But redesigning the AR is something that would take a lot more money and effort than InRange can handle.
ChaseTheStars Or he could create a totally new design, if he finds the right inspiration. Because we all know that Ian certainly has the knowledge and the skills involved for pulling off such a feat. If I was in his shoes, I would be creating autocad projects on my spare time until I found what I thought was a "winning design" and slowly build it up from there with pateon supporters, heck he could probably make a video series out of the whole thing to make money to fund the R&D.
This has been raised a number of times, and he answered it in one of the very early FAQs. He says that firearm design these days is a game of milking 1% here and 1% there. There can't be much more advancement other than weight reduction and better optics, until we move to a new projectile. It's the reason we're just seeing ARs and piston clones come out these days. Because of this, he doesn't really have a master design. He did say that advancements in metal based 3D printing may also change this though.
one problem with this inclined barrel: the bullet comes not in a straight line towards the barrel but from below and have to find its way into the barrel. this rapidly wears out the underside of the barrel even though there is a short ramp to assist the entry. the chamber in the barrel also wears out at the lower part which allows the cartridge to explode near the rim of the catcher ( if I use the right terminology)
As evidenced by the AR15/M16 pattern rifles, having the sights high off the bore isn't that big of an issue. But one wonders why they would complicate machining and such when they could just use a drop-stock like the Thompson. Presumably the MAS still has the issue of recoil force causing muzzle climb, the reciprocating mass is directed straight into the shoulder but the plane of the barrel is above the stock.
That does seem unusual for military weapons. I believe there are more cartridges created for new weapons that fall by the wayside even if the weapon they were originally intended for gets adopted.
To be honest I didn't expect this to be that good but it seems like one damn good SMG. It is super compact by WW2 standards, and it is super simple and probably not very heavy. A real surprise for me. The germans can be glad the french didn't have more of these in 1940.
I feel like Ian can just SMELL these rare firearms and tracks them for miles across dozens of auction houses, nose to the floor and sniffing them out like a bloodhound.
Nose to ground, butt to air.
That's perfect that made my day 👃
His moustache twitches when rare and interesting guns are near
@@AgentTasmania his beard tingles
I smell 32 French
This gun looked like it was designed by someone who was haunted by WWI. So much protection against the environment, maneuverable in a trench, and simple to maintain.
If by someone you mean the entire fuckng country then at the very least, you wouldn't wrong. In real life though, your right as fuck.
@@genghiskhan6809 you are => you're
The problem was that the French clearly had no idea what Germany had planned. They definitely weren't up for stalemate type battles until later in the war.
I was going to like this comment but it has 303 likes
@@genghiskhan6809 I can understand those who use vulgarity in their speach, but are you unable to avoid it in your written comments? It adds nothing good to your comments.
The fastest disassembly in a Forgotten Weapons video ever?
It's surely a contender.
I actually clapped I was that impressed. I mean it's an open bolt subgun so it's not complicated but I was still impressed.
that got me by surprise too. Usually Ian says "this gun is very easy to dissasemble" and then proceeds to go through several steps that take quite a long time and usually the assistance of his universal dissassembly tool...this time he said "this gun is very easy to dissasemble" and 5 seconds later the thing was dissasembled. I was like O.o XD
I think a video on Top 5 Fastest Field Strips is in order!
Well it is his gun
@@glautreu8431 Walther PPK, CZ83, and Beretta 92 are definitely top ten.
"The French do things a little differently". No kidding Ian, if you have ever driven or owned a Citroen car, you can find yourself both cursing and praising its designers at the same time!
Yes a 2CV and I love it.
Buy Renault of Pegeout.
Riding in a DS is heaven, fixing its hydraulic system (especially early ones with LHV) is hell.
Renault are unreliable and Peugeot ARE citroen!
Mickleblade we had a Renault 19 for all of my childhood, thing was built like a tank with no power steering, was a beast of a car
Anyone else loving this little sub machine gun spree Ian's been on recently?
I really like this "spree"! I have learned a lot. To bad our government has made collecting this stuff a ultrarich folks game.
Stacy Brown at least your gov hasn't banned automatic weapons completely
Yes... that is true, and I am thankful. That said what part of "shall not be infringed" makes restrictions of law abiding citizens right?
Stacy Brown hahaha I'm from the uk to get a bolt action in anything above .22lr I have to do a similar background check to your one for a literal machine gun, you Americans have nothing to complain about
123 456 I understand your point of view. While we have much less to complain about than you do, we still have to stand up and voice our concerns to keep what we still have. I and others are still trying to regain what was lost. You and other like minded folks in the UK might do well to try and hope for similar movement towards freedom.
Fun Fact: Ian now owns the exact MAS-38
And STILL doesn't have ammo for it... ;-)
@@MrDgwphotos 22.12.2019. Now he does. =)
@@Taistelukalkkuna I knew I would find someone else that came over to this video from the one posted today lol
Taistelukalkkuna don’t hold your breath for the firing video quite yet.
@@Taistelukalkkuna but his MAS.38 has mechanical issues so he can not shoot it yet xd
I feel like I've recently learned about 10 different ways you can solve the safety issues in open bolt sub guns.
12:23 the struggle to not curse is real.
Rik Raptor Gun Jesus probably chased the previous owner out of RIA with a whip
Imagine his face while saying that.
Noticed that too. Its like writing shipping ID codes on a Dali in Magic Marker.
This gun has a chequered history in France. It is often seen as a symbol of the MILICE, the Vichy French equival;ent of the Gestapo , and no I'm not kidding, the MILICE were the same.
51WCDodge interesting, I didn't know.
German policy in occupied countries was to bend local officialdom to it's way of thinking. Especially with the deportation of Jews and arrest of undesirables. I come from Jersey , that is in the Channel Island's and was Occupied from 1940 till the very end of the war, May 9th 1945. Though the German's went of thier way to be 'Correct', when Hitler ordered the Internment of British subjects not born in the Island, local Police officers were expected to arrest the people involved. In most of the rest of Europe they didn't even bother with pretence.
Not full autos. The process is if the barrel is smooth you need a Permite De Portage from the Parish Hal, is the barrel is rifled you need a States Police FAC. For those who wonder abour the term State's. Jersey has 2 Police forces, a parish based Honary force and an Island based Force operated by the States of Jerset.
51WCDodge What also helped the Germans at the time, in doing this, was widespread Anti-Semitism. It’s a lot easier to round people up and send them to camps when their neighbours don’t like them either.
I've also heard stories that Mussolini was killed by a guy wielding a Mas 38.
"Is it underpowered?" _Il Duce_ presumably didn't think so.
ZGryphon Or at least he only thought that for a very, very short amount of time.
Who wouldn't when the guy has all the time in the world to shoot you?
I read that Mussolini was shot dead by a Beretta MAB 38, not by a French MAS 38. Mistake ?
It is underpowered, really. The ammo was lacking punch.
The best part of all these submachine gun videos is seeing different ways of tackling the open bolt safety issue.
Re: French Paratroops using these - I once read an account by a British Paratroop officer placed with a French Paratroop unit during the Suez Crisis in which he described French Paratroops who were armed with other weapons such as rifles using these as secondary weapons firing down at ground targets with these as they descended toward their hot drop zone. The British Paratrooper was saved by such a French Paratrooper who used one of these on an enemy soldier who was about to shoot him as he struggled to unstrap his own gun from his leg binding. Always struck be as a dodgy thing to do shooting past one's own feet and lower parts as one descended, possibly, erratically, in a parachute but I can't imagine a Brit making that up. Firing on the descent aside, it seems like a good idea to have such a weapon immediately available in a very hot drop zone and equipping some soldiers with two different guns like that seems like great free thinking to me. I imagine buttstocks would have been dispensed with.
Makes sense in such a Self Defense situation. Unlike WW2 German Paratroopers, who besides dropping with uncontrolable chutes, jumped with only holstered pistols (I think); having to retrieve their weapons from Pods that were dropped seperately !
I think that's a very cool safety, and I'm not just saying that because I'm french myself, but because it's the type of safety that can never get you shot for lack of bullets coming out of the barrel when you pull the trigger in a combat or self defence situation.
7.65 can't be that anemic if it can take down a whale like Mussolini.
Yeah, but there's a difference between trying to stop a whale like Mussolini when he is free to move and raging on crack or bath salts and you are firing from a pistol, VS. having him captive and able to empty a whole SMG magazine into him, knowing that even if this does not kill him instantly, he is defenceless and will never reach medical care.
It's way, way more powerful than .32 ACP, not as powerful as .30 Mauser
Duncan Grove pretty much what happened to him when they strung up his corpse in Milan.
Kaddafi was a hero. He made Libya a free country. Now look at Libya today without him.
Duncan Grove Yeah, like Dianne Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, etc right?
No bucket of margerine could be bulletproof.
That's actually really impressive in a lot of ways. Cool features! Though it looks costly to make compared to the stamped sheet technology that took over in so many countries.
As far as the cartridge... My opinion, if it's powerful enough to go through heavy clothing and a few inches of torso, then it's deadly enough. Especially if the low recoil leads to better hit ratio from the user. Your chances of surviving a dozen bullets in the chest isn't great even if they are small bullets.
It does lose some use as supressive long range fire, but I doubt the enemy is gonna go and see if 765 is still lethal at 300m.
I need no channel youtube! You mean combat is nothing like the original Judge Dredd?!?
+SgtKOnyx Heh? Did he go strolling into supressive fire in the hopes the bullets would bounce off?
Though not as powerful as 9 MM para, this cartridge is still lethal. Think about it, the mas 38 was the weapon used to kill Mussolini...
.30 super carry.
That's awesome - so many neat designs elements! Several things to love here: the rear sights, the ergonomic safety, the disassembly procedure.
At first I didn't think much of this gun, but the design elements, and the pure and simple nature of them fascinates me! This has replaced the Madsen M50 as my favorite smg!
I can feel the love Ian has for this weapon through the video. The tension is unreal, hopefully a CHEAP but RELIABLE source of 7.65 French long falls into his lap.
use to own a ww2 French 1935a pistol, it was a great gun but ammo for it was so hard to find. so I went to my Fort Worth Original Gun Show and a vendor sold me a box of that surplus all steel bullet with the orginal box of 32 rounds. only to find out they were all duds, thereafter I look online and that was common for the ammo to be shot nowadays. so I saw a vendor that made handloads from using brass of .32 S&W long shaved down to the specifications of 7.65 MAS. and they cycled and ran fine. was glad to at least shoot it before I gave up on it.
_When you're listening to French music and Ian posts a video about a French submachine gun_
Au c'est magnifique!
TheGoldenCaulk I clapped, I clapped when I saw this gun
both things combined didnt give you the urge to run away with your hands raised ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+freddykisback123 No, but I did decide to wear white underwear, so there's that.
"Oh! C'est magnifique!"
omelette du fromage!
That safety, those iron sights, and that magazine dust cover. I've never seen anything like this. My gun wish list is becoming very French.
Damn, the French really were clever. I respect them more each time you feature one of their designs.
Lol, that field strip was insanely slick
Good to know that some peoples respect the frenchies ('caus I'm french too,I can teach you some words if you want),and don't always do jokes on surrendering (but the "hon hon hon" ones make me laugh actually)...
Ze_Mister_Kretin sooo your saying they make you go honhonhon
why couldn’t they make cars as well
@@kaporalkretin8708
when an anglosaxon say "hon hon hon"
it makes me think of the spy in TF2 :')
A compact and handy weapon. Judging by the oil on the parts this is a working example and not just part of a collection in a museum or somewhere
ian wants that sub gun. you can see him trying to hide his francophile glee. hope you get it ian!
This is a really neat gun, lots of neat features and super simple.
That's officially the fastest and neatest field strip ever.
"Person" is also now officially Gun Jesus-speak for "Motherfucker".
And lo and behold! Ian's MAS-38 is finally up and running again, finally, AND has ammo for it! After how long!? Haha, who else came here right after Ian's new video of him (finally) shooting his?
Guilty.
@@xdgfhjhfgjs855 Moi aussi!
"And in May of 1940 the french collectively realized 'Oh crap, were gonna need some sub machine guns'"
Lmao. I'm dead
I have a feeling that Ian will be taking this one home with him
Well, the price suffers from being French and a hard to find caliber I'm sure. But thats great for those of us who recognize that French firearms aren't bad. I wish Americans had a negative stereotype towards Swiss rifles haha
he did it 6.900 dollars.
Brandon, sorry guy but I have to say it, after I quit giggling. shorted you one or two at the end. THATS WHAT SHE SAID. lolol.
C'est Magnifique, Monsieur . Thank you so much for your great insight into the MAS and MAT firearms, which, in the past, I have never found easy access to. Back in the early 1980's, in Paris, I saw the foot Gendarme carrying the MAT MGs and always thought they were cool. Yes, during several trips to France I found the French culture to be laid back, which I like and it certainly makes them very different to other nations.
What a cool little SMG! I love simple, effective things, and this is really great!
You have no idea how appreciated you're videos are my man
"the safety is actually the trigger itself" yes that generally is how you make the choice between when you want gunfire or want no gunfire
Wow, what an interesting little gun! Never knew that much about these- thanks Ian, always appreciated 👍🏼
I would love this in 7.62x25. Spicy yet small package. I can't get enough of this channel. Thanks again Ian!😊
As one of the Tappet Brothers (Tom and Ray Magliozzi) said, "The French copy no one and no one copies the French." The comment was originally applied to a Peugeot car.
wbbh except for that whole smokeless powder thing. Pretty sure everybody copied that.
wbbh Tom is and will be missed.
Tyler Human, True!
I know Cadillac and some other GM cars currently have that feature and Volkswagen put the battery under the rear seat back in 1945.
wbbh His complaint was that it wasn't in the manual.
Really like some of the elements in this. The locking dust cover is really clever, as is the safety. Would it just not have been easier to raise the sights and keep the barrel angle flat rather than having complex cuts on the bolt face? As it's an SMG and the sights only go out to 200m, it's not designed for long range engagement anyway
its like a teen Thompson had a child with a Mauser C96
Did it result in a shotgun wedding? *rimshot*
For me personally, this looks like an STG-44 which likes Panzerschokolade a little too much.
it looks like a c96 carbine that wants to die
Mauw Chan But the C96 carabine is more a pistol than a SMG and it sucks, the MAS 38 is a reliable weapon, have 32 rounds and have the same fire rate as the German MP-40.
Ahmid'ou Miahn Banzillah Dogh'o Issou Chanclasos it LOOKS like it not FUNCTIONS
Kinda looks like shit but I wouldn't mind owning one, it's a tool of war after all and not a piece of art.
remove the stock and it actually looks like a giant and ugly C96
@@MaloGuillaumeLeCoat Woosh
What a classy little sub gun. It’s quite good looking and appears to be very well made compared to most sub-machine guns. Love it
Been watching since day one, love your website and channel Ian
looks like someone tried to break it over their knee but only bent it
HAHAHAHAHAHA!Sooooo goood! And so innovative!
user12345 I think you broke or triggered him
The downward tilted barrel and offset sights remind me of the Bloch M.152 fighter, which had its nose (and propeller) canted off to the left. In that case, the angling was to offset the torque of the engine and propeller.
The design on this gun is very simple, but very reliable from the looks of it.
Would depend on the cartridge i think. Is it punchy enough to avoid some jamming?
Man I love this channel
finally, i was waiting this video for sooooo long, im very grateful Ian, thanks and nice vids keep it going
Ian, you got a great deal on this gun. How does it shoot? What is the cyclic rate? Great investment on a unique gun.
1:00 Love that Ian can't keep himself from laughing when talking about France and its WW1 lessons! LOL
What I love about this channel is, you get too see rare/cool guns and get aome history about them. :-)
vive la France! i'm french and I love this channel!
It looks like a very solid little SMG. A tradeoff in power for controlled shooting to stay on target and ability to carry more ammo, not a bad compromise.
What beautiful simplicity in a little package.
The 32 French long shell was issued 2 ways as a brass cartridge case and copper clad bullet being rarer than the steel cased one with a TURNED STEEL bullet. This load is much more potent than you would think. While it never expands at all it does give very good penetration. Shooting 32 French Long out of a M35S into wet Sears catalogs it went twice as deep than 45 ACP ball and deeper than Nazi produced 9 mm ball. The French long and the 9 mm ball also penetrated a 70s era Chevy bumper that stopped the 45 Ball. Shooting cement blocks produced sparks with almost every hit. I have a small supply of the steel ammo but the longer I've had it the higher the percentage of dud rounds now about 75% when i got the ammo in the 1960s it was 20%. There is an interesting French movie " the old gun" that depicts a man with a double barreled shotgun taking revenge on a group of MIlice armed with Mas 38 s who killed his wife.
i love the bolt cover design. awesome.
I had to slow down from my usual 1.5x watching speed for the disassembly, else I'd miss it!
I like how the gun looks and how simple, yet elegant it was designed to be.
Did UA-cam do a 180 on the demonetization of gun related pages? I'm seeing ads again on pages that last week said they were turning off ads for good.
I think so. My Ad revenue dipped to zero for a week then shot back up to normal.
Great sights. Absolutely French!
the best tools for conflict are simple , reliable and durable under stress
Congrats on the acquisition of this magnific gun, I'm looking forward to the test shooting.
Will not lie. I only knew about this gun from Call of Duty: Big Red One.
Y34RZERO it's in Battlefield 2 as well, China AT kit I believe.
Moe Ali Jaber that's the Norinco Type 85. It looks like what would be if a MAS-38 got Rodgered by a PPS-43
The Badass Bassist you're right, it's been a really long while, I just remember how the gun looked honestly.
Moe Ali Jaber If that's what you were going on, then I could say you were pretty accurate lol
Same, I am putting a review of that game on my channel shortly.
I think I may actually get into gunsmithing due to this channel. I've already gotten my toes wet with minor metal working, and it just dawned on me that I'd be personally satisfied with crafting firearms. I don't really care that I couldn't sell them without proper authorization. I just want to make them.
Thank you Ian. You just may have helped me find my life's calling. It only took many months of viewing and indecision on my part.
Quite interesting that it looks kinda like an oversized C96.. but is completely, totally and amazingly different :D
congrats on winning the auction on this gun ian.. cant wait for the shooting video of this.
i was just looking at this gun on the rock island website! im fascinated in french firearms, is there any chance of you doing a video on the mat-49? i know they're super hard to come by but i just gotta see that folding mag disassembled!
I remember using this gun in Call of Duty Big Red One. Not a forgotten gun in my memory.
Been waiting to see this gun for a while
Love you're content!
11:42 My granddad always told me of that issue, when a guy accidentally dropped his, a few rounds would fire off.
One of my favorite gun designs!
And with this video watched I have now viewed every forgotten weapons video Ian has ever made and anxiously await the next new one I don't know what I'm going to do with my life now that I don't have old forgotten weapons videos to watch.
I had no idea this was such a neat well thought out gun. Wow I really dig it. It would be a little boss in 9mm para. I can picture a folding stock, like a sliding MP5 style, to make it even more compact. Carried by a single point sling I can see the usefulness of it even by todays standard.
COD BRO anyone? It was only one mission, but damn memorable. Hell, gonna play it right now!
I misjudged this SMG. It's a weird but effective design, the field strip really surprised me !
I have one of these in my house. I used to have the original leather strap, but it became brittle and was too far gone to save. the gun is still functional but i have never fired it.
just by it's sheer simplicity makes it way ahead of its time
Amazingly simple end elegant construction. Despite it's poor quality of manufacture.
You know what... this is a damn good gun. It has some nice features but isn't too complicated.
Ian, did the angle of the bolt also reduce muzzle flip or recoil?
Spoiler alert! I think Gun Jesus bid and won this rifle days later ;) You are the man Ian! Thank you for all the content over the years.
My brand-new GI Joe French resistance fighter carried one on Christ-MAS-morning, 1965!
Love this little gun, looks very usable...
Thanks for this video in particular. I've been waiting for a submachine gun that I did not like even after seeing it field stripped
Thanks for the post; I now know what it was that I saw in the Hanoi Army Museum while there back in 2010.
I see two issues with that safety: it has to be engaged in order to prevent the bolt from bouncing if dropped, and it seems easy to accidentally pull the trigger when disengaging it
Handy little thing, and a lot more effective than a pistol!
I wonder if there were any accidental discharges while gloved soldiers fumbled with that trigger safety. It's a definite possibility for sure.
Lots of these in the incomparable movie Battle of Algiers, good to finally know something about it.
Hey Indy I once saw an interesting pic of a Mas 38 online somewhere that was re chambered in 7.65 Tokarev. According to the poster it was a gift from his father who served in Vietnam and he found it on the body of a dead Viet Cong soldier.
Also on the subject of Vietnam, contrary to what a lot of games and movies show, it was much more common for Viet Cong and even North Vietnamese soldiers to carry Mas 38 and MAT 49 submachine guns as well as German K98ks and French Mas 36 rifles rather than AK47s. The main reason being that not only did the NVA steal a lot of French weapons but they also were donated a lot of captured Germans weapons given to them via the Soviet Union. Eventually the AK47 did become the main weapon of the NVA but that didn't happen towards the end of the war.
What a great gun! This thing looks like it can compete with MP40s and Thompsons
Ian, the thought just occurred to me. You've been exposed to literally thousands of different firearm designs, from all over the world, from nearly all eras of firearms development. Why don't you take a crack at designing your own gun one day? I can't think of a person better qualified to be the next "John Moses Browning", you know so much about guns that people call you "Gun Jesus" for crying out loud. You never know, you might just come up with something revolutionary.
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I totally second this!
Joan Summers This has to become top comment
I kind of hoped that was what was happening with the "What Would Stoner Do" project... But redesigning the AR is something that would take a lot more money and effort than InRange can handle.
ChaseTheStars Or he could create a totally new design, if he finds the right inspiration. Because we all know that Ian certainly has the knowledge and the skills involved for pulling off such a feat. If I was in his shoes, I would be creating autocad projects on my spare time until I found what I thought was a "winning design" and slowly build it up from there with pateon supporters, heck he could probably make a video series out of the whole thing to make money to fund the R&D.
This has been raised a number of times, and he answered it in one of the very early FAQs. He says that firearm design these days is a game of milking 1% here and 1% there. There can't be much more advancement other than weight reduction and better optics, until we move to a new projectile. It's the reason we're just seeing ARs and piston clones come out these days. Because of this, he doesn't really have a master design. He did say that advancements in metal based 3D printing may also change this though.
one problem with this inclined barrel: the bullet comes not in a straight line towards the barrel but from below and have to find its way into the barrel. this rapidly wears out the underside of the barrel even though there is a short ramp to assist the entry. the chamber in the barrel also wears out at the lower part which allows the cartridge to explode near the rim of the catcher ( if I use the right terminology)
Does that gun have a keyring on it?
As evidenced by the AR15/M16 pattern rifles, having the sights high off the bore isn't that big of an issue. But one wonders why they would complicate machining and such when they could just use a drop-stock like the Thompson. Presumably the MAS still has the issue of recoil force causing muzzle climb, the reciprocating mass is directed straight into the shoulder but the plane of the barrel is above the stock.
You just made matching that much more different to achieve the typical French I'm going to be particularly difficult for minimal advantage!
I can see why, he would like to buy this. It's a nice. Simple, clean, little gun.
A whole video on the MAS-38, and no mention that it’s cartridge was adopted from the Pederson device?
That does seem unusual for military weapons. I believe there are more cartridges created for new weapons that fall by the wayside even if the weapon they were originally intended for gets adopted.
To be honest I didn't expect this to be that good but it seems like one damn good SMG. It is super compact by WW2 standards, and it is super simple and probably not very heavy. A real surprise for me. The germans can be glad the french didn't have more of these in 1940.
hope ian will get his hands on a mat-49 someday coolest of all the french sub guns that saw action in indochina in my opinion
Ian, congrats on picking this baby up from the auction!
Very cool piece of engineering.
Also, I was stunned to hear it was only what, 24 inches total length. That's really impressive.
This might be my new favorite sub machine gun.