Solid corrugated works just fine. Annual maintanence is a must though. Perforated corrugated is a hell to the no and will do exactly as you said... clog and drain near foundation defeating its purpose. PVC is expensive and the catch all but solid corrugated is just fine.
It's "Fine" but is it "Good?" Won't the corrugated still eventually deteriorate? But yeah it will work if you need to save money. I am about to do mine but I decided to use 4in PVC even though it's gonna cost quite a bit more.
Best of both worlds (pvc & corrugated) is DUAL WALL corrugated pipe. Corrugated on outside, smooth on inside and not susceptible to freezing OR collapsing.
I would like to see how you built and attached it and which parts you are using; I have some underground drains that with the dirt settling after 10+ years they have pulled away and I now have about a 6" to 12" gap and this looks like the perfect solution to "reattach" the gutter to the drain
Yes and the clean out also works as a drain; if the line freezes with a bad winter you can open it, put a quick extention on it till the line dethaws. If the line freezes the water will just back up out the top of the pipe there right next to the foundation. Another thing is the pop up at the end will get the snow mounding up from the snow plowing, and will freeze shut. I landscaped around mine so i could put a grate cap on it.
Must be nice to not have to worry about frost lines. I’d have to go at least 40” deep with those & the utility easement would stop me before I ever hit the road.
Ah yes - with everything in life, there is a negative. Yup - pvc can become brittle over time but if it's sitting in the ground as a drain and left undisturbed, there is no issue. It won't crack all on it's own and even if it does, it's just a drain and not pressurized. Now, pop-up drains will fail and may need to be replaced. Systems like these work very well for the intended purpose so we don't chuck the baby out with the drain water so to speak! I have had pvc drains still working well 20 years after the installation so I will keep doing them this way. Everything take a little maintenance. I get several calls a week from people in metro Atlanta with drainage issue and most of it is caused by clogged corrogated foundation drains or gutter drains. We rescue many of these homeowners from the expense of cutting the slab and installing a water extraction system (which addresses the symptoms) by reworking their drainage systems (which addresses the cause). Wherever possible, you want to address the cause and not the symptoms.
Pop ups are shit...and to your point, won’t work in snow and ice. A better option is to use a 2 way catch basin where the bottom leaks out to 2-3 feet of gravel and the top is grated and flush with ground
I would've used "Y"'s, not "T"'s to connect to the main line. I would've 4" to 2" "Y"'s for the clean outs and faced them to the rear of the property. The popup is the worst way to end a system like this.
Absolutely the best way to do this so not a waste at all. What is a waste is the folks that insisted on using cheap corrugated black pipe. It clogs over time. We just had a client with clogged corrugated drains that caused her basement to flood. 30k later plus the aggravation and she now wishes she’d done as HandyANDY suggested.
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Solid corrugated works just fine. Annual maintanence is a must though. Perforated corrugated is a hell to the no and will do exactly as you said... clog and drain near foundation defeating its purpose. PVC is expensive and the catch all but solid corrugated is just fine.
Agreed. Solid Corrugated is perfectly fine. Just put catch basin under each gutter down spout and do annual clean out.
It's "Fine" but is it "Good?"
Won't the corrugated still eventually deteriorate? But yeah it will work if you need to save money. I am about to do mine but I decided to use 4in PVC even though it's gonna cost quite a bit more.
Best of both worlds (pvc & corrugated) is DUAL WALL corrugated pipe. Corrugated on outside, smooth on inside and not susceptible to freezing OR collapsing.
And it is also a fraction of the cost of pvc!
I would like to see how you built and attached it and which parts you are using; I have some underground drains that with the dirt settling after 10+ years they have pulled away and I now have about a 6" to 12" gap and this looks like the perfect solution to "reattach" the gutter to the drain
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Should have used a Y connector rather than a T connector for the clean out. Also, wouldn’t a catch basin be even better?
No catchbasin.
How’d you get enough fall from that back gutter? Dig pretty deep?
Yes and the clean out also works as a drain; if the line freezes with a bad winter you can open it, put a quick extention on it till the line dethaws. If the line freezes the water will just back up out the top of the pipe there right next to the foundation. Another thing is the pop up at the end will get the snow mounding up from the snow plowing, and will freeze shut. I landscaped around mine so i could put a grate cap on it.
Grate cap works much better and doesn't fail if you maintain it. Gotta love a woman who does her research 😏
@@dave9289 thanks! I really learned a lot "the hard way", but I got it done!
Popup is garbage. It will never freeze if pitched correctly and has an open outfall.
Must be nice to not have to worry about frost lines. I’d have to go at least 40” deep with those & the utility easement would stop me before I ever hit the road.
If you pitch the pipe correctly, it'll never freeze. Also, an open end, not a crappy popup.
Where did you get the Sch 40 downspout connectors? I can only find DWV downspout connectors which are smaller diameter.
Don't use them, they're not necessary.
Pop up drains always fail and pvc becomes super brittle when exposed to the elements. It will crack and not hold up over time!
Ah yes - with everything in life, there is a negative. Yup - pvc can become brittle over time but if it's sitting in the ground as a drain and left undisturbed, there is no issue. It won't crack all on it's own and even if it does, it's just a drain and not pressurized. Now, pop-up drains will fail and may need to be replaced. Systems like these work very well for the intended purpose so we don't chuck the baby out with the drain water so to speak! I have had pvc drains still working well 20 years after the installation so I will keep doing them this way. Everything take a little maintenance. I get several calls a week from people in metro Atlanta with drainage issue and most of it is caused by clogged corrogated foundation drains or gutter drains. We rescue many of these homeowners from the expense of cutting the slab and installing a water extraction system (which addresses the symptoms) by reworking their drainage systems (which addresses the cause). Wherever possible, you want to address the cause and not the symptoms.
How do you go under the sidewalk?
Did you use 30 schedule or 40 schedule?
How do the pop ups work in areas that have cold and snow. Below zero temps followed by freezing rain?
K Keller pop ups should have drain holes if not a drill can do the job.
Pop ups are shit...and to your point, won’t work in snow and ice. A better option is to use a 2 way catch basin where the bottom leaks out to 2-3 feet of gravel and the top is grated and flush with ground
Check. Only hire contractors that have a website and a labeled van.
How deep was your trench? I’m in Ohio
What is the specific pipe you used?
schedule 40
where are you located?
How much you cost.?
Where are you located Duc
I would've used "Y"'s, not "T"'s to connect to the main line. I would've 4" to 2" "Y"'s for the clean outs and faced them to the rear of the property.
The popup is the worst way to end a system like this.
Never do PVC for this. Total waste of money!!
Absolutely the best way to do this so not a waste at all. What is a waste is the folks that insisted on using cheap corrugated black pipe. It clogs over time. We just had a client with clogged corrugated drains that caused her basement to flood. 30k later plus the aggravation and she now wishes she’d done as HandyANDY suggested.
Handy ZV says maintain it like you're supposed to, and it will not clog. PVC will clog as well. I see bad installs of PVC all the time.