Flowers of the Moon (or whatever it is called)flopped because movies with a planet name in the title usually don't do well at the box office.Remember John Carter of Mars?Of course not since they named it only John Carter because they were afraid that the word Mars would keep people away.
I actually went to see it. It wasn't 'give me back my money' bad, but it wasn't anything I'd recommend to friends either. Reminded me of Pierce Brosnan-era James Bond.
@@joseqmeh101 Sure, the marketing was deceptive and the studio should be criticized for the bait and switch, but now that the movie is out and the public has seen it, it's clearly not a movie starring Henry Cavill.
OK, I'm gonna say it. I quite liked it. I just think that this type of humour isn't everyone's cup of tea. It's daft, yes, but deliberately so, with it's tongue firmly in it's cheek. Another point is that people DID know about the bad advanced word. At least there was plenty of opportunity for people to hear about the bad advanced work, because it was EVERYWHERE. I couldn't scroll through my social feeds without seeing damning advanced word on this film, which would ultimately put people off of seeing it rather than going and making up their own mind.
Sad thing was, the first part of the film where we're relying on Cavill and Rockwell to sell the action is solid. It's that cool, stylish, and slightly unbelievable secret agent film we all know Vaughn can do. Howard also does well playing the dumpy writer suddenly thrown into this craziness. But then comes what I call 'the vineyard twist' and the entire thing goes straight into the crapper. Even worse, since Howard did absolutely zero training to sell the idea that she is an action star, you can actively see the change in direction and camera work to utilize CGI and cover up the fact she's so bad. This really stands out because less than an hour earlier we were having some solid action scenes. And then the last third of the movie just drags and drags and drags. With Vaughn throwing several twists into the last 40 minutes it's like he has to use them all in this one sitting. With all the women you could have gone with Emily Blunt, Milla Jovovich, Charlize Theron, hell, even Sandra Bullock could have sold it better. Howard did fine when she was playing Elle, but she is not Argylle in any way, shape, or form. Before the vineyard it was looking like a 8/10 film for me and the wife. After that it immediately dropped to a 4 or 5/10. And whoever was in the costume department and decided to dress Howard in the same dress Dua Lipa was in an hour earlier didn’t do Bryce any favors.
times have changed rapidly since c19. people don't go to the movies like they used to. inflation, streaming, change in habits have changed everything. ps. I forgot the SAG strike.
Kristian Harloff recently said something that I very much agree with : after Kingsman : The Golden Circle, The King’s Man and now this, Matthew Vaughn should get away from the spy genre but for some reason, he just doesn’t want to. He still sticks to that franchise for no apparent reason. In fact, he recently said that he still plans on making Kingsman 3 and a sequel to The King’s Man which just baffles me. I really don’t understand why he just can’t move away from the spy genre. He really needs to do something else but then again, I’m just being naive because I know he’s not going to.
Mathew please go back to serious or more serious movies like Layer Cake and X Men First Class. So tired of these wink at the camera action movies with no stakes
It wasn’t incredible but it was good fun. I know opinions are always gonna be controversial but if John thinks this is absolute garbage I don’t think he’s seen how low Hollywood can truly go.
2. Things 1. Its not a Henry Cavil Film it’s a Bryace Dallas-Howard and Sam Rockwell film, and 2 I loved it it was different it wasn’t what I was expecting in a good way it went ways you didn’t think of
This movie had no right costing more than a couple million. This era of thinking Hollywood actors are so special that you can waste a hundred million on an ensemble cast needs to end.
Movies like this are why the Producers' position during the writers/actors strike was such bullshit. If they could get their heads out of their asses and not waste a quarter of a billion dollars on nonsense, they'd probably be able to pay their employees adequately.
I didn’t hate it. I think you have to know what kind of movie it is. It is an absurdist spy movie in the vein of romancing the stone mixed with long kiss goodnight. It most definitely should have been 20-30 min shorter though.
I went and saw Argyle and I actually enjoyed it. I get people's gripes with it though especially the length but I had fun. My favorite performances were Sam Rockwell and Catherine O"hara. Also was good to see Henry Cavill and John Cena on screen together which I felt was a nice wink for DC fans.
Have to admit, the figure skating the step too far for me as well. It was also about 30 minutes too long, but almost all the way up to that point, I was enjoying it. Even being such a huge Cavill fan, NOT having very much of him in it, and when he was on screen he had that awful flat top - I still found it somewhat enjoyable. I loved Sam Rockwell and Bryce Dallas Howard together, Samuel L. Jackson got a bit...over th top at the end, but yeah - the skating thing was ridiculous and...not in a good way.
Funny to hear you calling the skating scene unrealistic as if that wasn't what it was intended to be lol... you didn't realize that the entire movie was meant to be an elaborate troll right down to the last detail? It's so sad you weren't able to appreciate its brilliance
What's crazy is I didn't even realize this was going to theaters. I thought this was going to be a be streaming release. I wonder if that would've made a difference in viewrship.
I agree. The trailer was confusing. I could also tell that from the trailer that the movie was a bait and switch. That Henry Cavill was not the main character.
People are not going to the movies. The Barbenheimer thing was an anomaly. I go to the movies regularly and there are rarely more than 3 other people. I have been to the IMAX many times where I was the only person in there. The flopping of a movie is not a surprise when no one goes to the movie. Deadpool will be the 2024 Barbie and MAYBE Furiosa and Godzilla will do well, but I would not be surprised to see most other movies not make much money.
People don't go to see garbage movies. If they're going to spend their money it'll be for something more interesting. Barbenheimer was a social media event for the moment.
This was the first movie I've ever walked out of! Maybe if I had more time (I'm currently in school and working full time), I would have sat through. But after the first hour, it just felt like a waste of time. It's unfortunately reassuring that the 2nd half of the film was even worse
I for one am glad ignored the critics because Argylle was so fun and Bryce Dallas Howard representing a real body type in a main stream film without being the "Fat Girl" was fantastic.
I’ll be honest, I’ve been wanting to go to the movie theater for a while now, and was about to go this past weekend but there’s literally nothing good in theaters. So I stayed in and watched Netflix
The reason it cost 200 million is because they spend an additional 50 to 100 million on reshoots, the movie was initially shot almost 3 years ago, but it had to go through reshoots and re edits to make it as good or bad as it turned out to be.
It’s a wacky silly movie from the trailer and hated the idea it was about a writer who does spy novels. So I didn’t waste my time. They should have just done a spy comedy with cavill and Sam Rockwell.
Madame Web won’t be a bigger flop than Argylle by simple virtue of having a production budget that’s reportedly much less. You may deem it a worse movie, but it won’t be as big of a flop.
I actually enjoyed it. Way too long though could cut 30 mins out, but i enjoyed the absurdity of the film, and its framed that its an embellished retelling of a book, so im okay with the skating scene for example.
I had a blast with it up until the reveal. My brother and I rolled our eyes. They could've just recruited and trained the character instead. The third act was all over the place and made zero sense. I liked the colorful gun dance 🩰 though. The movie was funny but it needed a better third act.
Whether it’s good or bad - the major elephant in the room is PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO THE MOVIES. it sucks but too many people are triangulating around the fact that people are not going to the movie. I hate it but help me see a different strong counter argument.
@@audaciousjonesit’s not to say there aren’t outliers but overall people are not going to the theatre. Wonka has only made about 180 million domestically. It’s not pocket change but before the pandemic and streaming wars this was a whole other landscape. It’s not good.
If you expect a serious spy drama interlaced with action and comedy, then this movie isn't for you. Argylle is a lot more silly, campy and unrealistically cartoony in its overall direction, cinematography and plotline than Kingsmen, or even The King's Man, was. I liked it fine as a silly popcorn flick, but I struggle to see how Matthew Vaughn plans to turn it into a franchise, let alone create a Kingsman/Argylle cinematic universe.
4:50 .... the marketing features prominently Henry Cavill and Dua Lipa, and the movie is not about them, even the sinopsis says that the movie is not abot them.... to me this is another Bridge to Terabithia marketing, bait and swich.... the movie is about Bryce Tyler Howard's character, and to me she's inexpressive, that's the word??... I don't see the emotions in her face, I don't know why..... 😅😅😅
What makes me laugh, is that they put Henry Cavill front and centre in the marketing and poster, because to nerds hes seen as some kind of God amongst men, and he has less that 10 mins screen time..... 😂 Desperate marketing. Also, Matt Vaughn has been criticising EVERYTHING this week........ Well done Matthew Vaughn 👏 👍
I really enjoyed Argylle even if it is too long and self indulgent. I've only seen 1 Kingsman film and that was the 2nd one which was from I remember fun but self indulgent. That's probably why I got more out of it than a lot of people did. So it seems
I'm not familiar with the franchise so I came into this right I actually enjoyed the first 45 minutes of this movie... But then after that I was like oh my God please let it end and it just kept going and going and then that horrible ice-skating scene.. I don't understand why people don't test scream their movies when they're done like how do they not know it's too long???/ that makes no sense to me but people keep doing it
I really don't understand why people were excited for a new Matthew Vaughn movie after Kingsman the Golden Circle, then the awful "The Kings Man" came out and people were STILL excited for Argylle?
I was excited for a return to form as the man has made 5 great movies, including two of the best X-Men movies. But then a mediocre Kingmen sequel and an awful prequel. Sounds like this is more of the latter, which is a shame!
It wasn’t horrible. And considering the movies John has seen that have been bad (by his own words), calling this one of the worst he has seen is a real stretch. And to clarify, the good guy didn’t spill the oil. The skating scene was over the top and because it was obvious that it was over the top it didn’t bother me so much. This is a streaming movie not so much a theater one.
I loved the first two Kingsman movies - the first one more than the second but even the second I liked a whole lot more than most people. Chances are I'll probably like this film but I'm not risking my hard-earned money on a "probably" In the honorable words of Coach Beard "Apple TV+ Babay"
I thought apple bought this from Universal for $200 million, if that is the case the budget was a lot less and Universal may have done ok with this film. They probably had no confidence in it so they flipped it for a small profit.
After seeing the film is it an original film or a film marketed as an original film? What shocks me most is Vaughn has always been so braggy about not wanting massive Hollywood money and he can save money and doing it for cheaper. And yet this one he just seemed to overspend so much
I really enjoyed this movie! Yeah the last half isnt as good as the first half but I liked this way more then Kingsman 2 and 3. I am sad this flopped. The next one would have starred Henry. My hope is Apple is so rich they dont care it flops and let Vaughn make it anyway. This is only their third 200 million doller flop in a year.
I'm not sure what it is, I just have not been inspired to go to the theater over the past few years. Dune part 2 hopefully restores my faith in cinema.
What if I've never seen the Kingsman movies? Will I still enjoy this movie? I haven't seen it yet and I'm debating whether or not D-BOX is worth it for this movie or not? Is it action packed or not really?
Godzilla minus one had a budget of like 10 million dollars and arguably was able to be on of the best films of the year. Idk what it is but the quality of films have dropped dramatically and it seems to not be getting any better. People will come out to see quality films. I think it’s clear no one cares about the mega stars who star in a film
@@MaxxRemKing1 it’s definitely up there for me as well. Not even as a Godzilla movie but just film over all. It blows my mind that America can’t make as good of films with more than triple the budget minus one had
It's funny, but I thought the ice-skating scene was one of the best parts of the movie :) Of course it's not realistic, but it was funny as hell, my wife and I were howling at the theater with laughter. My wife who really really disliked the 2nd act of the movie said that part "redeemed" the movie for her.
Hot take here.... While Argylle is admittely a bit silly and frivolous, I had a fun time with it. In a current climate of remakes, reboots and disappointing trash, I'm gravitating towards (and more willing to accept) movies that are at least trying something fresh. Same goes for Rebel Moon and The Creator. Not life-changing pieces of art by any metric, but I'll take these experiments over the same old slush.
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Lol, When Flowers of the Moon bombed John blamed Scorsese not the marketing campaign….
Flowers of the Moon (or whatever it is called)flopped because movies with a planet name in the title usually don't do well at the box office.Remember John Carter of Mars?Of course not since they named it only John Carter because they were afraid that the word Mars would keep people away.
Bad marketing leads to bad box office. It's as simple as that.
The marketing was horrible. People kept asking me “What's this Argyle movie all about.”
I actually went to see it. It wasn't 'give me back my money' bad, but it wasn't anything I'd recommend to friends either. Reminded me of Pierce Brosnan-era James Bond.
Argylle's marketing was definitely pretty bad. I didn't even know it was a thing until like...a week ago.
Just got back from watching it. Yeah it ain’t good 😂
@@Bingo_the_PugAnd this is the worst of the bunch 😅
You suffered to spare our pain . Thank you🏅
@@Bingo_the_Pugit wasn’t bad. I enjoyed it. Not great but not bad
Didn't he already fire his agent? I thought the rocks people were his agents previously until he let them go after the dc firing @@Bingo_the_Pug
It was alright, 4.5 -5.5 rating
It’s not Henry Cavils Argyle!
Calling this Henry Cavill's Argylle is akin to calling Black Adam Henry Cavill's Black Adam.
still they used his face as a box office draw, and more in this one cause Cavill face was all over Argylle marketing campaign and interviewa
@@joseqmeh101 Sure, the marketing was deceptive and the studio should be criticized for the bait and switch, but now that the movie is out and the public has seen it, it's clearly not a movie starring Henry Cavill.
Dwayne The Rock Johnson's Argylle
OK, I'm gonna say it. I quite liked it. I just think that this type of humour isn't everyone's cup of tea. It's daft, yes, but deliberately so, with it's tongue firmly in it's cheek.
Another point is that people DID know about the bad advanced word. At least there was plenty of opportunity for people to hear about the bad advanced work, because it was EVERYWHERE. I couldn't scroll through my social feeds without seeing damning advanced word on this film, which would ultimately put people off of seeing it rather than going and making up their own mind.
Exactly!
You call it "Henry Cavill's Argylle" which it isn't. The film completely wastes him
he is the face of the marketing campaign, so
John is calling it that ironically, he goes on to say that Henry is in it for about 7 minutes and yet he’s the face of the marketing campaign.
Wtf happened to Mathew Vaughn? He hasn't had a good film since the first Kingsman and that's been a lot of years.
I had a ball with this one and I'm bummed it didn't do better.
Sad thing was, the first part of the film where we're relying on Cavill and Rockwell to sell the action is solid. It's that cool, stylish, and slightly unbelievable secret agent film we all know Vaughn can do. Howard also does well playing the dumpy writer suddenly thrown into this craziness.
But then comes what I call 'the vineyard twist' and the entire thing goes straight into the crapper. Even worse, since Howard did absolutely zero training to sell the idea that she is an action star, you can actively see the change in direction and camera work to utilize CGI and cover up the fact she's so bad. This really stands out because less than an hour earlier we were having some solid action scenes.
And then the last third of the movie just drags and drags and drags. With Vaughn throwing several twists into the last 40 minutes it's like he has to use them all in this one sitting. With all the women you could have gone with Emily Blunt, Milla Jovovich, Charlize Theron, hell, even Sandra Bullock could have sold it better. Howard did fine when she was playing Elle, but she is not Argylle in any way, shape, or form.
Before the vineyard it was looking like a 8/10 film for me and the wife. After that it immediately dropped to a 4 or 5/10.
And whoever was in the costume department and decided to dress Howard in the same dress Dua Lipa was in an hour earlier didn’t do Bryce any favors.
I had a blast. And every person in my theatre had a blast. I don't get the hate.
times have changed rapidly since c19. people don't go to the movies like they used to. inflation, streaming, change in habits have changed everything. ps. I forgot the SAG strike.
Kristian Harloff recently said something that I very much agree with : after Kingsman : The Golden Circle, The King’s Man and now this, Matthew Vaughn should get away from the spy genre but for some reason, he just doesn’t want to. He still sticks to that franchise for no apparent reason.
In fact, he recently said that he still plans on making Kingsman 3 and a sequel to The King’s Man which just baffles me. I really don’t understand why he just can’t move away from the spy genre. He really needs to do something else but then again, I’m just being naive because I know he’s not going to.
stop calling it cavil's movie!
he is the face of the marketing campaign, so
@@joseqmeh101 well he saw the movie and he knows it’s not his
Mathew please go back to serious or more serious movies like Layer Cake and X Men First Class. So tired of these wink at the camera action movies with no stakes
Figure skating on oil sounds like a Texan’s wet dream.
I went to go see Henry! And I was very very disappointed this movie deserved to flop! I saw it on cheap movie day and I still want my money back.
It wasn’t incredible but it was good fun. I know opinions are always gonna be controversial but if John thinks this is absolute garbage I don’t think he’s seen how low Hollywood can truly go.
2. Things 1. Its not a Henry Cavil Film it’s a Bryace Dallas-Howard and Sam Rockwell film, and 2 I loved it it was different it wasn’t what I was expecting in a good way it went ways you didn’t think of
This movie had no right costing more than a couple million. This era of thinking Hollywood actors are so special that you can waste a hundred million on an ensemble cast needs to end.
Movies like this are why the Producers' position during the writers/actors strike was such bullshit. If they could get their heads out of their asses and not waste a quarter of a billion dollars on nonsense, they'd probably be able to pay their employees adequately.
The "skating" scene was terrifically choreographed. Loved the action!
The "colourful smoke" scene was far worse, IMO.
Yeah. I didn’t like all the dancing of that. The colorful smoke & escaping out of that situation alive would have been enough.
I didn’t hate it. I think you have to know what kind of movie it is. It is an absurdist spy movie in the vein of romancing the stone mixed with long kiss goodnight.
It most definitely should have been 20-30 min shorter though.
Same here. Definitely gave me the vibes of Long Kiss Goodnight.
Quote of the day: “I don’t have enough time left on earth to go to a movie that I know is not good”😂 FACTS!!
I’m gonna be real. I legitimately thought the CGI cat was the real Argylle
I also think that you put Cavill & Lipa front and then you have only a few minutes.
The title didn't help...
I went and saw Argyle and I actually enjoyed it. I get people's gripes with it though especially the length but I had fun. My favorite performances were Sam Rockwell and Catherine O"hara. Also was good to see Henry Cavill and John Cena on screen together which I felt was a nice wink for DC fans.
The trailer wasn't good. And it was obvious cavil would have little screen time and was just used for marketing. So obvious. And no one cared.
Anyone thinking Henry Cavill was the main character obviously didn't understand the trailer.
Have to admit, the figure skating the step too far for me as well. It was also about 30 minutes too long, but almost all the way up to that point, I was enjoying it. Even being such a huge Cavill fan, NOT having very much of him in it, and when he was on screen he had that awful flat top - I still found it somewhat enjoyable. I loved Sam Rockwell and Bryce Dallas Howard together, Samuel L. Jackson got a bit...over th top at the end, but yeah - the skating thing was ridiculous and...not in a good way.
I wasn't gonna see Argylle anyway...Instead I saw Aquaman & the lost Kingdom for the 3rd time.
According to the director, the film didn't cost 200 million. Apple paid that money to own it.
It would have been better if the cat was argylle
Funny to hear you calling the skating scene unrealistic as if that wasn't what it was intended to be lol... you didn't realize that the entire movie was meant to be an elaborate troll right down to the last detail? It's so sad you weren't able to appreciate its brilliance
Henry Cavil isn't a draw ,spy films have been done to death and the trailers just made it look like a lazy cgi fest
What's crazy is I didn't even realize this was going to theaters. I thought this was going to be a be streaming release. I wonder if that would've made a difference in viewrship.
Its just sad that Henry is not getting a break he deserves.
Trailer looked bad
I agree. The trailer was confusing. I could also tell that from the trailer that the movie was a bait and switch. That Henry Cavill was not the main character.
The trailer discouraged me from seeing the movie. Thus far this year in movies suck. The only hope is Deadpool 3.
People are not going to the movies. The Barbenheimer thing was an anomaly. I go to the movies regularly and there are rarely more than 3 other people. I have been to the IMAX many times where I was the only person in there. The flopping of a movie is not a surprise when no one goes to the movie. Deadpool will be the 2024 Barbie and MAYBE Furiosa and Godzilla will do well, but I would not be surprised to see most other movies not make much money.
people went to see wonka
People don't go to see garbage movies. If they're going to spend their money it'll be for something more interesting. Barbenheimer was a social media event for the moment.
This was the first movie I've ever walked out of! Maybe if I had more time (I'm currently in school and working full time), I would have sat through. But after the first hour, it just felt like a waste of time. It's unfortunately reassuring that the 2nd half of the film was even worse
It's the second hour that has the better stuff.The first hour can be hard to watch.
The audience score is 70% on rotten tomatoes
6.1 on imdb which is basically flop
yeah coming from 500 people
The marketing was bad for this movie.
Im kinda starting to wonder if everyone else saw the same movie I did. I liked it a lot. Far from perfect but a damn good time at the theatre for me
I think people didn't understand what they were going to go see
How does one spend a fifth of a billion on a comedy? This sounds like a money laundering operation than a movie.
The actors pay checks is where most of it went.
I for one am glad ignored the critics because Argylle was so fun and Bryce Dallas Howard representing a real body type in a main stream film without being the "Fat Girl" was fantastic.
I’ll be honest, I’ve been wanting to go to the movie theater for a while now, and was about to go this past weekend but there’s literally nothing good in theaters. So I stayed in and watched Netflix
There are tons of good movies out there.
That’s why I went to see this (plus I wanted some cinema popcorn..)
It didnt help that they promoted it like Henry Cavil is the main star when he's barely in it. It's like they knew the movie was trash
Clarification the movie didn’t cost 200M. Apple bought it for 200M. So while it was a MARV production the budget was lower.
If you buy something to re-sell all the money counts as a one entire budget in every business
The reason it cost 200 million is because they spend an additional 50 to 100 million on reshoots, the movie was initially shot almost 3 years ago, but it had to go through reshoots and re edits to make it as good or bad as it turned out to be.
It’s a wacky silly movie from the trailer and hated the idea it was about a writer who does spy novels. So I didn’t waste my time. They should have just done a spy comedy with cavill and Sam Rockwell.
Madame Web won’t be a bigger flop than Argylle by simple virtue of having a production budget that’s reportedly much less. You may deem it a worse movie, but it won’t be as big of a flop.
Im surprised it flopped. I enjoyed it so much 🥺
Me too!
I actually enjoyed it. Way too long though could cut 30 mins out, but i enjoyed the absurdity of the film, and its framed that its an embellished retelling of a book, so im okay with the skating scene for example.
I wasn't a huge fan of the second Kingsman, but I actually really enjoyed Argylle. So, again, to each their own. Completely subjective. ^^
I have AMC A-List and yet, I’m not rushing to watch this
I had a blast with it up until the reveal. My brother and I rolled our eyes. They could've just recruited and trained the character instead.
The third act was all over the place and made zero sense. I liked the colorful gun dance 🩰 though.
The movie was funny but it needed a better third act.
Whether it’s good or bad - the major elephant in the room is PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO THE MOVIES. it sucks but too many people are triangulating around the fact that people are not going to the movie. I hate it but help me see a different strong counter argument.
then why was wonka successful month?
@@audaciousjonesit’s not to say there aren’t outliers but overall people are not going to the theatre. Wonka has only made about 180 million domestically. It’s not pocket change but before the pandemic and streaming wars this was a whole other landscape. It’s not good.
@salvador75 i bet dune 2 and godzilla x kong will be hits
If you expect a serious spy drama interlaced with action and comedy, then this movie isn't for you. Argylle is a lot more silly, campy and unrealistically cartoony in its overall direction, cinematography and plotline than Kingsmen, or even The King's Man, was. I liked it fine as a silly popcorn flick, but I struggle to see how Matthew Vaughn plans to turn it into a franchise, let alone create a Kingsman/Argylle cinematic universe.
Madame Web jokes in this video cracked me up 😂
4:50 .... the marketing features prominently Henry Cavill and Dua Lipa, and the movie is not about them, even the sinopsis says that the movie is not abot them.... to me this is another Bridge to Terabithia marketing, bait and swich.... the movie is about Bryce Tyler Howard's character, and to me she's inexpressive, that's the word??... I don't see the emotions in her face, I don't know why..... 😅😅😅
Rip Matthew Vaughn
I bloody loved this movie, I feel like I saw a totally different film to everyone else lol
What makes me laugh, is that they put Henry Cavill front and centre in the marketing and poster, because to nerds hes seen as some kind of God amongst men, and he has less that 10 mins screen time..... 😂 Desperate marketing. Also, Matt Vaughn has been criticising EVERYTHING this week........ Well done Matthew Vaughn 👏 👍
Marketing campaign was definitely terrible, I thought this movie was coming out in the Summer or next year lol
Maybe Henry Cavill isn't the star everyone thought he was...
Well when he's in less than 10 min, I think the word of mouth of that is going to convince people to stay home
@@GoliathWarfarestars don’t exist
Neither is Bryce Dallas Howard
This is not a shocker. The trailers and its concept was boring.
Henry Cavill is ofcially another victim of the Superman curse
No more like bad agent curse.
I could have done without the dance fight shootout at the end.
Dance fight shootout was totally amazing.It's the end(book conference)and post credit scene that were the big problem.
I really enjoyed Argylle even if it is too long and self indulgent. I've only seen 1 Kingsman film and that was the 2nd one which was from I remember fun but self indulgent. That's probably why I got more out of it than a lot of people did. So it seems
I'm not familiar with the franchise so I came into this right I actually enjoyed the first 45 minutes of this movie... But then after that I was like oh my God please let it end and it just kept going and going and then that horrible ice-skating scene.. I don't understand why people don't test scream their movies when they're done like how do they not know it's too long???/ that makes no sense to me but people keep doing it
Psst..... Despite what the internets say, Mathew Vaughn is not James Cameron
Never heard of this movie until you mentioned it a couple of weeks ago and had to look for the trailer. I've loads of ads for "ISS" though.
I like Henry Cavill and he's a good actor but he's just not That Guy. Never was.
I really don't understand why people were excited for a new Matthew Vaughn movie after Kingsman the Golden Circle, then the awful "The Kings Man" came out and people were STILL excited for Argylle?
I was excited for a return to form as the man has made 5 great movies, including two of the best X-Men movies. But then a mediocre Kingmen sequel and an awful prequel. Sounds like this is more of the latter, which is a shame!
I think they weren't excited at all, as the numbers show.
@@JT-qd5uj Ok maybe it was just John that was excited for it 🤣
@@JT-qd5uj well I was excited up until reviews called it a catastrophe and I didn't buy tickets 😂
The King's Man felt like a school trip to world war 1 museum. 20% Kingsman & 80% History
I saw it yesterday and I had a lot of fun with it. Was it dumb fun? Absolutely. But I’d rather get that real Argylle movie with just Henry Cavill.
It wasn’t horrible. And considering the movies John has seen that have been bad (by his own words), calling this one of the worst he has seen is a real stretch. And to clarify, the good guy didn’t spill the oil. The skating scene was over the top and because it was obvious that it was over the top it didn’t bother me so much. This is a streaming movie not so much a theater one.
Damn 200M?? That’s like 150,000 iPhones
This reminded me of Executive Decision and Sidekicks.
It was fun
I loved the first two Kingsman movies - the first one more than the second but even the second I liked a whole lot more than most people. Chances are I'll probably like this film but I'm not risking my hard-earned money on a "probably"
In the honorable words of Coach Beard "Apple TV+ Babay"
Matthew Vaughn has lost it. And the trailer was terrible.
Lots of prolific directors hit a slump just hope he gets it back
I thought apple bought this from Universal for $200 million, if that is the case the budget was a lot less and Universal may have done ok with this film. They probably had no confidence in it so they flipped it for a small profit.
I thought it was a enjoyable ride
Me too
Same here
why is anyone surprised? who in their right mind would pay $25 to see this at the local theater big screen IMAX?
After seeing the film is it an original film or a film marketed as an original film?
What shocks me most is Vaughn has always been so braggy about not wanting massive Hollywood money and he can save money and doing it for cheaper. And yet this one he just seemed to overspend so much
I really enjoyed this movie! Yeah the last half isnt as good as the first half but I liked this way more then Kingsman 2 and 3. I am sad this flopped. The next one would have starred Henry. My hope is Apple is so rich they dont care it flops and let Vaughn make it anyway. This is only their third 200 million doller flop in a year.
I'm not sure what it is, I just have not been inspired to go to the theater over the past few years. Dune part 2 hopefully restores my faith in cinema.
Anyone remember The man from UNCLE?? Yeah even that was better than this. It makes no sense why these movies cost so much.
I loved it😊
What if I've never seen the Kingsman movies? Will I still enjoy this movie? I haven't seen it yet and I'm debating whether or not D-BOX is worth it for this movie or not? Is it action packed or not really?
the movie is great but i think you have to watch kingsmen first. All movie are great except the kingsmen 2
Ignore what the othrr guy is saying, this film is completely unrelated to Kingsman, apart from an afterthought in the post credits.
it's not about related or not I think he should watch kingsmen to understand Matthew Vaughn ridiculous direction
This movie was great😂I really liked it. Funny to hear John hating it. The beauty of film
Godzilla minus one had a budget of like 10 million dollars and arguably was able to be on of the best films of the year. Idk what it is but the quality of films have dropped dramatically and it seems to not be getting any better. People will come out to see quality films. I think it’s clear no one cares about the mega stars who star in a film
@@MaxxRemKing1 it’s definitely up there for me as well. Not even as a Godzilla movie but just film over all. It blows my mind that America can’t make as good of films with more than triple the budget minus one had
It's funny, but I thought the ice-skating scene was one of the best parts of the movie :) Of course it's not realistic, but it was funny as hell, my wife and I were howling at the theater with laughter. My wife who really really disliked the 2nd act of the movie said that part "redeemed" the movie for her.
Hot take here.... While Argylle is admittely a bit silly and frivolous, I had a fun time with it. In a current climate of remakes, reboots and disappointing trash, I'm gravitating towards (and more willing to accept) movies that are at least trying something fresh. Same goes for Rebel Moon and The Creator. Not life-changing pieces of art by any metric, but I'll take these experiments over the same old slush.
I had a great time with this.
Damn…. I was excited about this lol
10:51 Thank Me Later
Thank you.