"It's crazy how these people claiming to be "liberal" have become so anti-free speech and authoritarian." They aren't "liberal", they are progressives. Progressives have historically often been authoritarian.
Exactly broadcast licenses were to deal with the limited frequencies of the airwaves. We don’t have that problem with the internet. This is the dumbest argument possible.
@quantumviewtherapy8926 He is not lying? Every video you’ll find on X is completely opinionated and many videos promote photoshopped data. Elon Musk gets fact checked by his company more than anyone else. It almost appears that there is some grievances against him in most community notes. The Algorithm is absolutely open source. This is why no one likes the far left. You guys are lazy and just comment “lying” as if your word is law. Just like how you want a big government to pay down the law in every aspect of our lives to create the next China. Obviously the Tim Waltz who is a Chinese asset that lied about going to China 30 times while in service was applauding authoritarian policies which is a nod to authoritarianisms like China in General.
@@gugy68 Amber. Aka the woman on the right. That's fine and all, but at least admit to yourself you like to hear only the rights view of things. People disliked free who represented the left, people dislike Jessica who represents the left, but Amber who is of the right and Robbie who was of the right are called the good ones. Just saying there's a pattern not that the pattern is bad but just please acknowledge the pattern
@@bakionigeri6414 That's because the left has lost all perspective, lost integrity, and are stuck in their narrow minded narratives. This woman is agreeing with the tyrant judge in Brazil. That's not ok.
She doesn’t want free speech. She wants to be told from people in authority what to think and other people silenced. It’s like these people have no understanding of history.
You are right...I bet the numbers play out for particular demographics. Clue, it isn't old white males as they like to say. They place the identity card evertime. If they looked in a mirror they might see themselves
She's so wrong that this is one of those times where Robbie really doesn't have to say anything other than, "I'll let the UA-cam comments handle my light work".
X Algorithm is open source. She should be banned for spreading false information. As far as I know, X is the only social media site that has open sourced their Algorithm.
@@realdeal5475 "Brazil" didn't say so. A single judge in Brazil decreed that it be banned and A LOT of Brazilians don't want it to be banned. This is abject, indisputable tyranny.
Nomki is just as irrational as Jessica about censorship. Their point of view seems to be that there's nothing wrong with it as long as they can say whatever they want and only the people they disagree with have to stop.
This is gross overreach. When you say something out of line the moral majority lets you know. I don’t need any other individual human being telling me what to say or think. ever…….
Nomi Konst, Keith Ellison, Sundar Pichai & Kamala Harris prove that David Horowitz was right: *_"Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out."_*
The reason you need a licenses was because there is limited bandwidth and too many players would crowd the frequencies. You don’t have that problem with internet. This is THE dumbest argument ever thunked.
yeah hate speech could be anything someo doesn't like. If I say I'm against illegal immigration that could be considered hate speech. its a way for the government to suppress anything they don't like
The attorney general serving alongside Gov. Tim Walz in Minnesota wrote a thank-you message to Brazil on X just days after the South American country started blocking the social media platform, drawing a sharp rebuke from Elon Musk. Keith Ellison’s “obrigado Brasil!” statement - which was posted in Portuguese on Monday - is also generating widespread criticism from conservatives on X.
It's not about real hate speech. Nobody cares about that. It's about true information that goes against the narrative which the government labels as hate speech or "Russian interference" in order to censor it.
Nomiki, perhaps you’d be wiser if you listened more to the “crazy” neighbors and less to the lying officials. Take an honest look back. Was the neighbor really crazy?
You think it's a representation of The Hill, not a representation of the average left-wing thought process? She is right in line with what I hear from liberals every day.
In a way, this is good to watch, if we need to confirm how much we need to support free speech. Brazil is under dictatorship and, of course, the people of Brazil also want free speech!
If information is true AND in the interest of a foreign government that it be widely known, does Nomiki think I don’t have a right to this information? Sounds like it. Get rid of her. This site needs some litmus tests. I don’t think Bri would have failed on this one.
@@briant7265 i listen to her a lot including her interview of Matt Taibbi on the Twitter files discussing free speech. She didn’t treat Matt right in my opinion, but she is not so anti free speech as to ever say the nonsense out of Nomiki’s mouth. After all, she was in the Bernie camp - how do you think she’d like being told all that info of what Hillary did to Bernie couldn’t be spread on social media because it came from Wikileaks? She was better than Nomiki but I understand why she was fired. She has style issues when things get heated (so does Robbie).
So the government gets to decide what is truth and who gets to spread truth? ..because the government always has the best interest if the people?? Go learn some history, lady. I'll take my chances with an unfiltered Internet.
Robby is an eloquent advocate for free speech. I agree with him completely on this under assault freedom that we are guaranteed and abandon at our peril!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Wow Nomi, that is a pretty strong argument towards censorship you just made. If the "wrong" side wins are you going to be ok with them deciding what people are allowed to say including saying you are not allowed to speak anymore? What happened to the traditional democratic value of fighting for people you don't like to say things you don't agree with?
STOP - Even other Brazilian Judges are now saying wait a minute..."On Thursday, Brazilian judge Kassio Nunes Marques ruled that ALL 11 of the country’s Supreme Court justices NEEDED TO DECIDE on whether the platform should continue to be suspended (Moraes had initially ruled alone, and then a smaller selection of judges upheld his decision)." But here's the real problem. There are over 1/4 million Starlink users many are businesses/companies that rely on them for internet service, this silly feud between Moraes and Musk can not be allowed to put all these businesses and companies in jeopardy. For many Starlink is the only way they can get internet service and keep their companies in business.
Free speech prerequisite to inquiry and understanding, while bowing to loud progressive voices leads to conformity and fear. True freedom arises from thoughtful dialogue, not reaction to the noise of the day Elon has it correct.
How does this lady know what is a bot and who is not? She sounds like she is just repeating talking points. And thinking the government was "wrong sometimes." They were wrong ALL THE TIME.
These past 2 shows have been fascinating with his cohosts. You would think that the free speech position would be universal. But nope. I feel Robbie's frustration and that flabbergasted look on his face while he tries to make sense of their views that aren't even on topic. It boggles the mind how some people don't understand free speech is to protect speech you don't like.
These people don't know how algorithms work. It's based on your scrolling history and your interaction history. I get many leftists on my recommended for you side even though I do not agree with them mostly. That's why some leftists have the opposite experience. Elon does not favor any sides when it comes to algos.
How can it be so hard for The Hill to find a left leaning host... I'm left leaning but these hosts use such inconsistent logic/reasoning and insane rationale to support their positions. Krystal and Ryan Grim were the only two competent left leaning hosts in the world?! Robbie spends every episode getting an ear beating by ppl who make no sense... Literally spewing nonsense. Even if I agreed with the foundation of their position I'd disagree with how they defend/support their decision making process.
Imagine complaining about Elon putting his thumb on the scale politically when Twitter, Facebook, Google have been putting their thumbs on the scale for years and years prior. There is a study proving that Google can affect an election, yet I bet she has never lost sleep over that
Why don't you do some research and find out what the "everyday common people" in Brazil think about this. I know some Brazilians. Great people. They're not to pleased about this.
Her first assertion was "You need a licence to broadcast in the US". (1) You do not need a licence to operate a website; (2) X is not a broadcast (maybe she's confusing 'broadband' with 'broadcast'?); (3) this is not the US. After that, all I could hear was Charlie Brown's teacher.
It's crazy how these people claiming to be "liberal" have become so anti-free speech and authoritarian.
I live in Los Angeles. A blue city, in a deep blue state. "Liberals" haven't been liberal for 40 years. Shame.
"It's crazy how these people claiming to be "liberal" have become so anti-free speech and authoritarian." They aren't "liberal", they are progressives. Progressives have historically often been authoritarian.
Not liberals. Wannabe Marxist revolutionaries.
Absolutely. It’s a really bad trend.
@@jeffreymontoya9933 Yeah let's sacrifice our rights and freedom so we can "own" a billionaire.. what a idiotic take.
Can the Hill not find even ONE progressive who isn’t morally reprehensible? Why is that so hard?
We will see😂 No dice yet
I think progressive and morality are incompatible
I think the producers like having these people on the show. Everyone comments about how bad they are and it gets the engagement up.
They are all like this sorry lol
@davidokinsky114 possible but why would they get rid of Bri if they wanted unhappy commenters flooding in?
Why does the Hill only have moderate conservatives on, but always have far left liberals representing the other side?
Most conservatives are moderate, most liberals have TDS.
There are no sane moderates on that side anymore.
She is considered "moderate" to modern liberals. Thats the problem.
The left is so far off the map that using basic logic makes you "conservative" it is genuinely that bad.
she does have hisatate to lie
This lady just argued against normal people including doctors and scientists having opinions online during covid.
Nomi Konst, the First Amendment does not require a broadcasters license.
Exactly broadcast licenses were to deal with the limited frequencies of the airwaves. We don’t have that problem with the internet. This is the dumbest argument possible.
She lives in an echo chamber where her claims are never fact checked.
Robby let way too much of her b.s. fly.
They don't have the First amendment.
The constitutionality of broadcasting licenses was based upon the limited availability of broadcast signals. That isn't a problem on the internet.
I think at this point Bobby must have been order to go easy on her well until she morphs into Brianna V2.
Journalists aren't supposed to cheerlead for censorship. Booby's cohost is the female version of Juan Williams.
She is a progressive.
"is the female version of Juan Williams." I don't think that's fair to Juan Williams.
"Progressive" is a misnomer. They are regressive. And repressive.
Congrats Hill, you've found another looney in Nomi. Next?
X's algorithms are publically available, and she's wrong
Didn’t know that thank you…. Facts are beautiful things.
Lying.
@quantumviewtherapy8926
He is not lying? Every video you’ll find on X is completely opinionated and many videos promote photoshopped data. Elon Musk gets fact checked by his company more than anyone else. It almost appears that there is some grievances against him in most community notes. The Algorithm is absolutely open source. This is why no one likes the far left. You guys are lazy and just comment “lying” as if your word is law. Just like how you want a big government to pay down the law in every aspect of our lives to create the next China. Obviously the Tim Waltz who is a Chinese asset that lied about going to China 30 times while in service was applauding authoritarian policies which is a nod to authoritarianisms like China in General.
It’s way more nuanced than that. But musk is glad you haven’t looked any further.
Lol, when Nomi isn't lying, she's wrong.
Robbie always the one with a functioning brain in this show. 😅
Poor Robbie. His sidekicks are awful. Amber is the only one left that has common sense. lol
@@gugy68 Amber. Aka the woman on the right. That's fine and all, but at least admit to yourself you like to hear only the rights view of things.
People disliked free who represented the left, people dislike Jessica who represents the left, but Amber who is of the right and Robbie who was of the right are called the good ones. Just saying there's a pattern not that the pattern is bad but just please acknowledge the pattern
@@bakionigeri6414 Kim was a lefty but had great takes and most often I agreed with her. Do right there your argument is debunked. 😂🤦🏻♂️
@@gugy68are you talking about Kim Iverson? She was the right leaning spokesperson.
@@bakionigeri6414 That's because the left has lost all perspective, lost integrity, and are stuck in their narrow minded narratives. This woman is agreeing with the tyrant judge in Brazil. That's not ok.
Interesting take on "free" speech, she is off the mark.
She doesn’t want free speech. She wants to be told from people in authority what to think and other people silenced. It’s like these people have no understanding of history.
Freedom of Speech is worth fighting for!!!
Am I crazy? Or are certain demographics becoming more and more nonsensical and removed from reality? Serious question.
we are living in the upside down unfortunately
You aren't crazy.
Liberal white women
You are right...I bet the numbers play out for particular demographics. Clue, it isn't old white males as they like to say. They place the identity card evertime. If they looked in a mirror they might see themselves
White progressives
She's so wrong that this is one of those times where Robbie really doesn't have to say anything other than, "I'll let the UA-cam comments handle my light work".
This guest host is a clown
Please don’t have her back. Her takes are horrible and she’s all for censorship
X Algorithm is open source. She should be banned for spreading false information. As far as I know, X is the only social media site that has open sourced their Algorithm.
I laughed how she just blurts out "it's been studied" like it's case closed. you can't even argue with her on it.
Lol She should be banned for Spreading false information 😂
"IT'S SEXIST AND RACIST!"
It's ones and zeros luv
And Brazil said so.. they don’t want the platform and it’s their choice
@@realdeal5475 "Brazil" didn't say so. A single judge in Brazil decreed that it be banned and A LOT of Brazilians don't want it to be banned. This is abject, indisputable tyranny.
Scraping the bottom of the barrel putting Nomiki on....
it literally kills me watching Nomi talk, like how brainwashed do you have to be. Robby you're wasting your breath..
Your problem if you have a death wish.😮
She does not believe in free speech. He does. I just saved you 13 min.
I'm offended by this woman and her views therefore she needs to be censored 😅
Authoritarian communists love other Authoritarian communists!
We have to take away power from the Marxists in California who have destroyed America !
Nomki is just as irrational as Jessica about censorship. Their point of view seems to be that there's nothing wrong with it as long as they can say whatever they want and only the people they disagree with have to stop.
This is gross overreach. When you say something out of line the moral majority lets you know. I don’t need any other individual human being telling me what to say or think. ever…….
Tim Waltz does not hug and kiss his wife, he shakes her hand. That’s all you need to know about that man.
"MuH HaTe sPeEcH." Define "hate speech" objectively please. Oh and "mUh BoTs."
Oh boy, another tyrant
Nomi Konst, Keith Ellison, Sundar Pichai & Kamala Harris prove that David Horowitz was right: *_"Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out."_*
❤ Replacing Jessica with her mom wasn't what we were hoping for! 😮 But at least we know where Jessica gets her authoritarian ideas from!😅
This one is probably the worst of all the progressives
The reason you need a licenses was because there is limited bandwidth and too many players would crowd the frequencies. You don’t have that problem with internet. This is THE dumbest argument ever thunked.
"Broadcast" is for radio and tv airwaves. Not for newspapers or the internet. No license is needed for free speech.
Notice the conversation spirals down to, I hate Elon..hes wrong, thats all that matters.
This lady is nuts
She has been on b4 she is worse than bri n jessica
@@CD-bn7el that's hard to do
"Broadcast" is for radio and tv airwaves. Not for newspapers or the internet. No license is needed for free speech.
Did she really just say “Mark Zuckerberg is doing what he’s supposed to, cooperating with the government…”
OMG
Hatespeech is not a thing if you have a functioning brain.
yeah hate speech could be anything someo doesn't like. If I say I'm against illegal immigration that could be considered hate speech. its a way for the government to suppress anything they don't like
@@craigclermond8001 A way to circumvent the 1st amendment.
The attorney general serving alongside Gov. Tim Walz in Minnesota wrote a thank-you message to Brazil on X just days after the South American country started blocking the social media platform, drawing a sharp rebuke from Elon Musk.
Keith Ellison’s “obrigado Brasil!” statement - which was posted in Portuguese on Monday - is also generating widespread criticism from conservatives on X.
It's not the government,.. it's one judge!
Robby has no luck. I hope he has an additional bonus to put up with tnese women
Hazard pay.
Drink bleach? No one ever said that.
Anybody still spreading this lie shouldn't have a job in journalism. It takes 3 minutes to debunk.
This woman is completely crazy.
@@ddelrussBiden and Kamala still say it. I'm not sure about Walz but I'm sure he has.
😮 CAN THE HILL PLEASE ACTUALLY TRY AND FIND A LEFT WINGED JOURNALIST. NOT A ACTIVIST INFLUENCES LIKE HER AND HER DAUGHTER JESSICA??😮
It that really her daughter?
All of the sane democrats are abandoning the part.
What is she talking about? The Hill has a license from the governent to broadcast?
No, Musk dosn't need to remove hate speach. He's under zero obligation to.
It's not about real hate speech. Nobody cares about that. It's about true information that goes against the narrative which the government labels as hate speech or "Russian interference" in order to censor it.
Because what the left calls “hate speech” is just “truth” yet, everything out of their mouth is lies and hate speech.
Harris/Walz will do the same
Nomiki, perhaps you’d be wiser if you listened more to the “crazy” neighbors
and less to the lying officials.
Take an honest look back. Was the neighbor really crazy?
Dear the Hill: Rising;
Can you please stop making the left look bad by having horrendous left-wing hosts?
Sincerely,
A viewer
You think it's a representation of The Hill, not a representation of the average left-wing thought process? She is right in line with what I hear from liberals every day.
She actually represents the left perfectly. Irrational, uninformed, and no critical analysis.
In a way, this is good to watch, if we need to confirm how much we need to support free speech. Brazil is under dictatorship and, of course, the people of Brazil also want free speech!
I’m just about to give up on this show. This lady was the absolute worst. Wow
This women is worse than Jessica...
those who censor are never on the right side... which party in this country censors??
Both would, if given the opportunity
Both do.
wake tf up people, this presidential race isnt just a popularity contest
Who defines Hate Speech?
She’s intolerable.
Nomi makes Jessica look unbiased.
Is Robby so reasonable or is it just insanity of his co-hosts that give him that appearance?
If information is true AND in the interest of a foreign government that it be widely known, does Nomiki think I don’t have a right to this information? Sounds like it. Get rid of her. This site needs some litmus tests. I don’t think Bri would have failed on this one.
Bri would just have used a lot more words to say the same thing.
@@briant7265 i listen to her a lot including her interview of Matt Taibbi on the Twitter files discussing free speech. She didn’t treat Matt right in my opinion, but she is not so anti free speech as to ever say the nonsense out of Nomiki’s mouth. After all, she was in the Bernie camp - how do you think she’d like being told all that info of what Hillary did to Bernie couldn’t be spread on social media because it came from Wikileaks? She was better than Nomiki but I understand why she was fired. She has style issues when things get heated (so does Robbie).
This is how Harris and Walz roll. Tulsi Gabbard has been on a watchlist ever since Gabbard destroyed Harris during a debate
So the government gets to decide what is truth and who gets to spread truth? ..because the government always has the best interest if the people??
Go learn some history, lady.
I'll take my chances with an unfiltered Internet.
Robby is an eloquent advocate for free speech. I agree with him completely on this under assault freedom that we are guaranteed and abandon at our peril!
Not one person running on the democrat ticket is worth one vote.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Wow Nomi, that is a pretty strong argument towards censorship you just made. If the "wrong" side wins are you going to be ok with them deciding what people are allowed to say including saying you are not allowed to speak anymore? What happened to the traditional democratic value of fighting for people you don't like to say things you don't agree with?
Should tell you what she believes in.
STOP - Even other Brazilian Judges are now saying wait a minute..."On Thursday, Brazilian judge Kassio Nunes Marques ruled that ALL 11 of the country’s Supreme Court justices NEEDED TO DECIDE on whether the platform should continue to be suspended (Moraes had initially ruled alone, and then a smaller selection of judges upheld his decision)." But here's the real problem. There are over 1/4 million Starlink users many are businesses/companies that rely on them for internet service, this silly feud between Moraes and Musk can not be allowed to put all these businesses and companies in jeopardy. For many Starlink is the only way they can get internet service and keep their companies in business.
For almost five minutes straight Konst kept throwing nonstop accusations at X/Twitter...why didn't Robby ask "Can you cite your f'ing sources?"
Where does Hill find these leftist geniuses?
I'm sure she was just as mad when Facebook did it
Fellow Marxist.
Where did this Karen come from? She can move to Brazil
This "woman" is insane. 😂 TRUMP 2024 !!!
So, a far right chap should no longer be allowed to express him/herself in this new world anymore? Is it a sin to be far right?
Yes. Their arguments don't make sense because they're just a post hoc justification for shutting you up because they hate you.
hate speech and misinformation is legal here
Only Nomi Konst can make me miss Jessica.
Free speech prerequisite to inquiry and understanding, while bowing to loud progressive voices leads to conformity and fear. True freedom arises from thoughtful dialogue, not reaction to the noise of the day Elon has it correct.
Hey Elon... get your money out and get your "birds" going somewhere else. Put Brazil back to the dial-up AOL days of 64K.
How does this lady know what is a bot and who is not? She sounds like she is just repeating talking points.
And thinking the government was "wrong sometimes." They were wrong ALL THE TIME.
Nomiki: " The government information...they might have been wrong, but..."
Uhhhh...theres a difference between Wrong and LYING
These past 2 shows have been fascinating with his cohosts. You would think that the free speech position would be universal. But nope. I feel Robbie's frustration and that flabbergasted look on his face while he tries to make sense of their views that aren't even on topic. It boggles the mind how some people don't understand free speech is to protect speech you don't like.
I didn’t always agree with Jessica but I much rather have Jessica.
These people don't know how algorithms work. It's based on your scrolling history and your interaction history. I get many leftists on my recommended for you side even though I do not agree with them mostly. That's why some leftists have the opposite experience. Elon does not favor any sides when it comes to algos.
She's the mean cheating wife on The Hangover!!!!
This woman is even worse than Jessica.
I can't believe they still let her sub. And I thought my company had a problem hiring people...
When I see Tim Walz, the first thing I think of is a rodeo clown.
This girl has sipped too much koolaid
How can it be so hard for The Hill to find a left leaning host... I'm left leaning but these hosts use such inconsistent logic/reasoning and insane rationale to support their positions. Krystal and Ryan Grim were the only two competent left leaning hosts in the world?! Robbie spends every episode getting an ear beating by ppl who make no sense... Literally spewing nonsense. Even if I agreed with the foundation of their position I'd disagree with how they defend/support their decision making process.
Imagine complaining about Elon putting his thumb on the scale politically when Twitter, Facebook, Google have been putting their thumbs on the scale for years and years prior. There is a study proving that Google can affect an election, yet I bet she has never lost sleep over that
Why don't you do some research and find out what the "everyday common people" in Brazil think about this. I know some Brazilians. Great people. They're not to pleased about this.
DRONES IN OPPOSITION. WHOM DOES ONE BELIEVE?
That IS the INTENTION.
Why have this lady on
Where did that female journalist come from LOL. Another activist!
your moral high ground is not a reason
Doesn't MSM put their thumb on the scale also?
Why do they keep bringing her back on. She suckssssss
I think Nomi needs to be censored. I think she is employing hate speech.
Will Communism become common in your country or is that counter to the culture you wish to cultivate? Cast your vote.
This is as good as it will ever get with Nomi, folks.
Why does the Hill choose to keep employing this person. She is so irrational and unable to have a civil conversation...
This lady reporter is saying hate speech but cannot even point one
Her first assertion was "You need a licence to broadcast in the US". (1) You do not need a licence to operate a website; (2) X is not a broadcast (maybe she's confusing 'broadband' with 'broadcast'?); (3) this is not the US. After that, all I could hear was Charlie Brown's teacher.
Was she kidding when she facebook is doing the right things. I guess she doesn't read real news! Mind blown !!
So she is the arbiter of speech over her neighbors ability to speak on face book………..crazy!!!
Free speech should be a right for everyone, anywhere.
This chick is absolutely insane!!