Brazil’s CENSORSHIP Of Elon Musk And X Is AUTHORITARIAN: Michael Shellenberger
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2024
- Michael Shellenberger weighs in on Brazil's crackdown on Elon Musk's X and Starlink. #musk #brazil
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When you use your freedom to shut up other people, it's not free speech.
when christ comes back
Use own freedom to shut others up? What do you mean? We have a supreme court judge issuing laws against the constitution he was supposed to uphold to censor political opposition.
Basically twitter needed a law representative in the country, Musk cancelled the contract with law repersentative and got banned. Very simple and straight foward.
@@AlpahCentueri42-c6kit's a nice thought but we need to fight back until that happens
I love how shellenberger tries not to laugh as Jessica performs (like an actor) her grown-up-activist-journalist role. The Hill should be embarrassed.
@@joeytosi she has a middle-schooler for a co-host.
@@BeKind-ve4id ha!
@@joeytosi Actually it was sad to watch 1 1/2 grown men verbally beat up Jessica -- interrupting and talking over -- her. I agree that she will probably not last very long, like Briana before her, faced with the daily poor manners of her bombastic co-host. Makes me wonder if The Hill is setting these women up to fail.
@@BeKind-ve4id oh, please… She’s in over her head.
@BeKind-ve4id she talks about misinformation without identifying the misinformation. So misinformation is what a judge that works for the government says? She is totally unprepared to talk about this subject, this channel was supposed to be about journalism not pure activism. Her knowledge about the subject is less than the knowledge of a toddler.
Jessica got a little haterade for Elon. Has for since she started. I hate to say it appears very personal with her vs him. Thank to Schellenberger for being a voice of reason. Jessica blinded by hate.
Jessica has some parts of the story incorrect. Starlink said it would comply with the X ban. Then Morales froze Starlink assets prior to the X ban going into affect, sigting X had unpaid fines.
However, this is illegal as Starlink is a different company with different owners. Starlink then said they would only ban X if their assets were returned.
This illegal action ny morales against Starlink has been called out by Brazils top law society. Jessica implies that Starlink was not going to ban X, when that is false.
Jessica can't be this cooked man she has to be playing a dumb role to create a better debate 😂 that what I think but every time I see Robby's face of disgust when she speaks I think she might really be cooked 🤔
Jessica is completely wrong on this issue. I cannot believe that she genuinely thinks more government censorship is the right approach to a free and democratic society.
If a Trump presidency was censoring people she would be singing a different tune.
Jessica has been wrong on every issue recently 🤦🏻♀️
When was she right?
No freedom to say what you want...is no way to be human.
E liberdade de expressão para não dizer o que você pensa é o fim do mundo. Tirar direito não é proteger a liberdade de expressão. Se combate a desinformação com mais informação.
JESSICA'S FACE IS SAYING, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE FACTS ARE, MY VIEWS ARE BASED ON MY FEELINGS!!!!
Very Communist 😂😂😂
“Orange man bad!! Elon bad!! Blue good! Kamala good!” -Jessica
That’s all I hear when she speaks
Are you people okay? Jessica is constructing solid arguments based on facts and Robbie is singing "la, la, la, free speech, yasa, yada"
@@BeKind-ve4id"solid arguments" for censorship, yes..."good censorship" from "good" government actors...it's twisted
@@BeKind-ve4idno maga's audience captured this rag- sense isn't tolerated.
watched for the second time and worth seeing Jessica make a fool of herself!!!!
man she completely humiliated herself here and then doubled down to make it way more cringe. i have no idea what point she is trying to make....is she trying to say that elon posting is the equivalent of government taking down other peoples posts?
Yes Jessica, we understand, the truth hurts. Only when your obdurate to reason. Free speech is essential, great job Robby, Michael.
She's a Leftie bot!
There isn't a communist dictator Jessica doesn't love.
That's right, she's practicing to be hired by CNN or MSNBC, she's actually ready to go. That's why I don't watch Rising anymore since Kim Iversen quit for the same reasons.
Right. Lula da Silva, the "communist dictator" who invited UnitedHealth into Brazil's healthcare system during his first term and is even _less_ "social-democratic" _now._ 🤦♂
@@Rascal77s I love all of them 🫡
She can't even get the judge's name right.
I love Robbie’s face listening to Jessica’s BS 😂😂😂
Stay strong, Robbie! 💪
Kind of reminds me of that old SNL skit "Point / Counterpoint" with Dan Akroyd & Jane Curtin: "Jane, you ignorant ..." 😀 No disrespect, Jessica! 🙂
He is weak by nature, so it's going to be hard to stay strong ...
I'm getting the feeling that Robby chooses cohosts like candidates select veeps.
Michael Shellemberger, thank you very much for all you've being doing for us, Brazilians.
God bless you and spread to the world what is happening here!
Micheal absolutely destroyed Jessica 😂.
The problem with Jessica is that she have no idea of what she is talking about
In what regard? Be specific.
Free Speech is the bedrock of FREEDOM.
I will fight to support Jessica's right to speak and I will exercise freedom to not listen to her nonsensical ideals and turn her off!
Perfect! Point blank!
Jess has lost the plot completely. Totally incoherent argument.
Is Jessica playing the role of a Looney university student? Does everyone remember when Liberalism used to stand for personal liberty?
These people aren't liberals, they're progressive socialist, there's nothing liberal about Jessica's rhetoric.
Yeah, I don't remember her being this radical when she was with Amber on Fridays
I don't know if she even describes herself as a liberal. A lot of leftists these days have been ripping the mask off!
She’s extreme left.
@@rich8669 There is nothing liberal about today's left!
"Censorship is free speech" Jessica. The Orwellian new speak here is hard to stomach.
Freedom is slavery
This is worse than her "theyre only stealing cars so they can get to their jobs" arguement.
As a Brazilian I confirm everything Shellenberger said.
Jessica's personal bias is showing. Free speech is essential to a free society. Brazil is in the wrong.
Who's banning TikTok?
@@lindaleeyou1234 No one?
Brazil fancies they have power.
@@dannyarcher6370 you missed that?
What? You mean banning poiliticians and journalists is bad? I'm pretty sure being a billionaire is the real problem
Jessica, in Brazil, the country i was born in, it has a constituition and freedom of speech is on our constituition. Finally, what Alexandre de moraes is doing - "It is against the LAW" in Brazil... young lady...
OMG!! Rob, can you draw it for Jessica, please 🫣😂
I think Jessica has NOT done a research on the judge 🤔
Maybe I'm slow, did Jessica say Musk is a Billionaire? I wasn't sure. She may have only said it about two dozen times. I need a few more times to truly understand.
@@TheLavachild No, you're right. You are slow.
For leftists, the word "billionaire" wields the same power as the word "racist". Just keep saying it. Just keep saying it.
Thank god it's not a drinking game each time Jessica demonizes billionaires. We'd be passed out before this segment was over.
Good job Robbie you tell her she is going to be one of the people who most regrets the fact that freedom of speech will be gone when we most need it I believe it was George Washington who said without freedom of speech dumb and quiet we will go like lambs marching to the slaughter
Here in Brazil, Lula's independence parade was the emptiest in history, while the People were Demonstrating for Freedom in São Paulo!
Everyone should be very grateful to Michael Shellenberger!
Think about this. Half America shares Jessica voting power. Sad day in America 😢. She is worse than Bri.
Much worse!
Same coin honestly.
A thousand times worse than Bri, and I don't particularly like Bri.
Cvdjab dementia is permeating empty heads.
Please send Jessica somewhere…
She would feel right at home in China.
@@Rascal77s or Iran
Venezuela
I heard Elon Musk is looking for volunteers for a one-way trip to Mars.
Oh my god, she looks the clone of brasilian journalist Amanda Klein... 😮🥴
Brazilian here. The girl doesn't have the slightest clue about what's going on around here.
pois é ne cara, cada uma que aparece
Thank you for showing the truth about Brazil.🇧🇷
Jessica sounds like a Brazilian media militant. Thank you Michael for bringing the truth. This situation brings fear to anyone that criticizes.
You girl here should b fired for more reasons.
No way she should be fired that was entertaining and I like to see the progressives chain of thought.
@@jeremiahramos1690 I usually would agree, but at this point it's not worth seeing. I want to actually see valid criticism from the progressive side; Jessica just skews the information to fit her views so it's not even informative.
@@jeremiahramos1690 get some fresh air, at least briahna made sense
@@joka5345exactly. I could respect Briahna because she was true to her convictions. And evrn though she was progressive she believed in free speech. Jessica is a phony who will contradict Robbie just for the sake of the argument.
@@sabaha4637 you girl need writing lessons.
They’re literally having to explain to Jessica like she’s a little child.😂
No, she’s a VERY LUCID AMD WELL-INFORMED WOMAN!!!
Proud of her!!!
The Jessica ignored the fact that Brazilian law does not allow the cancellation of a user account. The law only allows the restriction of articles or opinions. Canceling the account would be an early restriction of the user's opinion, an action prohibited by law. In addition, the judge requested the secret blocking, not based on any law in the Brazilian constitution, of accounts belonging to users who published opinions against the political party they represent (including the account of an elected senator of the republic).
Hey, Mrs. Burbank, a Brazilian here. Wanna change places with me? I'd be VERY GLAD seeing you trying to live under this actual "regime". Althought I bet you'd be very useful for corrupt Lula and Moraes.
In which world is this lady living? Is she defending censorship?
Time for The Hill to censor Jessica because a bunch of viewers are going to start leaving for intelligent discussions.
Jessica not only swallows the commi propaganda bait, she takes out the fisherman AND the pier.
Who is this young lady?! Why is she saying nonsense about the situation of X in Brazil?!! Unbelievable!
I'm about done watching this. It's not even about who's right or wrong. The way she treated the guest was disgusting.
@@kriss3855 she was outnumbered 2 to 1
@@BeKind-ve4id So what. She acts like she’s full of hot air.
The answer to incorrect speech is more speech, not censorship.
Move this lady she don’t now anything !!
The HIll will find someone ever battier. They haven't had a leftie liberal who wasn't battie for a long time.
Michael Shellenberger is quite level-headed.
Thank you, Robbie, for pushing back on Jessica's nonsense
Jessica, you are so wrong!!! I like a lot of what you say, but in this case, this is a slippery slippery slope, please rethink your position.! do you remember when liberals were all about free speech what happened to that?
@@danjewkes6844 They learned that slander and libel exist and can ruin a person's life. They heard about the "free speech" of the malicious teen you convinced a vulnerable boy to commit suicide. She was convicted of manslaughter and will be more careful about how she uses her "free speech" when she gets out of prison . They learned the US bans foreign ownership of US-based news media companies. In short, they learned that free speech is a right and that with that right comes a
corresponding responsibility to use it within reasonable guardrails. Duh.
❤ Michael Shellenberger. He makes so much sense. So polite ❤
Any Judge is above the LAW
🇧🇷freedom BRAZIL 🙏
Do they make Jessica defend these horrible takes or are they actually hers? Also...what is the deal with her obsession with Elon Musk?
100 percent herself. She has some kind of hate towards any body with money. She really does not like X and they could be hanging politicians up in brazil and she would still blame elon.
In Jessica's world, the government has to step in to decide what is true and what is misinformation. She's only OK with that because she thinks government will be on her side, but government shouldn't be on a side, it should only be worried about protecting everyone's right to have and share their side.
First person going to be fired for being incoherent 😂😂😂
@@joka5345 if incoherence is grounds to be fired Trump would have been convicted at his first impeachment 😅
Thank you so much Michael for exposing these absurdities happening here in Brazil.
This female host comes across as smug, biased and irritating.
You nailed it!
Brazillian people needs help its a dictatorship . Jessica is clueless
"free speech is only speech i like"
- Jessica, probably.
Liberate Brazil
Eu sou a favor de que o Senado vote o impeachment de Alexandre de Morais
Jessica, if there was a crime committed, they go after the people that committed the crime don’t shut down the peoples right to communicate. Disgusting.
Sad to see how lack of information and the belief in a twisted rhetoric blind the views of this young lady, who probably do not know that Alexandre de Moraes ordered the “production of evidence” to be used in his draconian rulings in clear violation of the Brazilian constitution. Free speech is the only way to achieve a real democracy - not trying to eliminate opponents as it is De Moraes’s modus operandi.
It's scary how many Americans agree with Brazil on this. Maybe they should all move there.
There is no shortcut around free speech to getting at the truth.
Good debate. I think Jessica doesn't quite have a handle on why the ban of X is censorship. Is she kind of pro censorship?
Wow, never actually seen him get upset.
She just will not listen 23:30
Jessica is defending that monster de Morães. OMG.
I stopped before Schellenburger started speaking to ask this question
Will Miss Burbank take any motice that the government of Brazil is a far left party and the one she would have voted for ifvshe was Brazilian and the fact that they are censoring a corporation , corporations being an entity that she never stops railing against, that is very much pro-free speech?
I say there is a 0% percent chance she will have anything to say about it.
On with tne program.
Edit :
I did not see her defending censorship.
Wow!
they were trying to make post about sick puppies like a sarah mclachlan. We no hurt the puppy in brazil. They try to say I hurt the puppy but the puppy already sick. There too many puppy. they let the dog get loose and then more puppy. We can not take care of all of the puppy. Then they post the picture like I want to hurt the puppies, and is a lie. I don't want to hurt the puppies.
Shes completely evil
Disturbing to watch
Go Elon ❤️
(People from Brazil who watched this will see an unsettling resemblance - in *all* aspects - between Jessica and Amanda form JP News - a brazilian news channel. Just an observation - weird nonetheless.)
They have a $8K a day fine for a VPN in Brasíl
The Bill of Rights was passed in December 1791, not in 1789.
The woman commenting doesn't want to understand what the other two are saying. They are right. She is wrong and she doesn't want to understand.
Thank you, Michael and Robbie for standing up for us right this girl lost her freaking mind and it’s all about pride. She’s just prideful that she’s wrong and she don’t want to admit it.
I really like Michael Shellenberger!
Thanks for having him on, folks. He’s a great journalist to interview - but you know that
Dictatorship is when our interests or ideology are not respected... freedom of expression is when our interests are maintained by our friends in power... judicial decisions are not discussed... they are complied with... or, that is what is done constitutes a dictatorship.
Oh my God. She is so dishonest. Brazilian guy here.
😮
Thisnis what happens when you vote for socialists, this natuon is going the same direction
The battle for free speech in Europe will be a lot more difficult.
Yeah, I won’t be watching her anymore. She’s against free speech shame on you, Jessica. I’m through with the rising sorry, but you need to apologize.
I think it has to be a natural process, censoring is not natural. People will get tired sooner or later anyway of posts that is not sincere and true and look elsewhere.
Follow the law, it's simple.
Follow the constitucion
That's all
Thank you, Michael Shellemberger! God bless you !
This woman is infuriating. Instead of supporting censorship, support dismantling international corporations? She'd never let that come out of her mouth.
Micheal deserves a medal for conversing with this woman. God knows I couldn't do it.
The Judge is from the Olde School of Slavery!😭😭😭😭😭😭
Hilarious that Jessica denounces institutional power as corrupt, unless of course it's HER institutions enacting that power. Her courage comes from knowing that the entire Democrat CATHEDRAL of power has her back. She truly thinks she's the RESISTANCE. It's hilarious.
The CIA has been active in Brazil for decades. They, together with the representatives of wealthy, privaleged Brazilians have been responsible for the tragic wealth disparity in Brazil and two unfortunate presidencies, Temer (convicted of fraud and barred from political office) and the solidly right wing Bolsonaro who only won the election because the current President Lula de Silva was jailed in the back of beyond on false charges. During Lula's term of office Brazil began to shine both politically, economically and socially. Voters responded by next electing his protege, Dilma Rousseff who was removed from office on false charges and the corrupt Temer inserted into office by fascist elements in Congress.
As far as I can see, Lula is working to rebuild what was destroyed by his successors. If there is a fascist element in Brazil who are responsible for censorship, I don't think it's coming from Lula who suffered at their hands but of the US Ricos coalition who think Brazil is theirs to do as it wishes. Who resent sharing their wealth and power with the majority of the Brazilian people.
I’ve listened to this 3 different times now and still can’t wrap my head around what Jessica thinks. I’m a swing voter so I consider myself pretty middle ground on a lot of topics. But, I do see blatant accounts of censorship attempted around the entire globe right now. Leading to believe it’s a bigger issue than what is happening in just Brazil.
At first I thought Jessica was simply an idiot who thought she was a genius. Then I thought she was a horrible person who hated everyone who didn't think exactly like her. After that I realized she actually has a few reasonable positions that are in conflict with the rest of the left and that she might not be all bad. Today's episode just made me think I was right in the beginning.
There's a veil over this woman eyes, mind. Blinded for whatever reasons. No emotions it's like she's being hypnotized. Freaky scary watching her talking.
She is on ADHD meds. Wonder if that has anything to do with it. And she hates elon musk. It’s truly sad.
*Good:* _"…this kind of Latin American intervention, that's been done by the United States for _*_many years…"_*
*Better:* _"…this kind of Latin American intervention, that's been done by the United States for _*_many, many decades…"_*
*Defensible* (depending on how you're defining "intervention"): _"…this kind of Latin American intervention, that's been done by the United States for _*_nearly two centuries…"_*
It's their country and their laws, if musk doesn't like it don't do business there.
Our laws have being disrespected
Help us to spread this words. 🇧🇷🇺🇸🇮🇱
Es nosso herói que orgulho me representa e jamais vou esquecer pelo seu empenho dedicação trabalho em tentar salvar nossa liberdade realmente faz e trabalha em prol da preservação da humanidade isso não tem preço meu total apoio solidariedade admiração e respeito Deus sabe de todas as coisas
Feelings over logic and facts.
Jessica is an exemplar of why women should never have been given the vote.
As a female, I agree with you completely! 😄
Amen!
Jessica has been the weakest link since her very first appearance.
Jessica looks very sincere as she argues for censorship... but my conspiracy theory is this is her role so that they can generate interactions on videos?? This seems to be the most rational option ;-)
Wow sorry for Jessica they need someone else to make better arguments