@@leenfira6821 I agree. I've read many complaints about how Jasmine was not wearing her bare midriff outfit in the live-action film. But Jasmine represents the politics of her homeland, therefore wearing an outfit that resembles a seducing belly dancer is not appropriate. I think the live-action film did her justice by removing that.
@@karmeeleon I agree with you. Though I know that some complained about how Jasmine's outfits look more Indian. Personally, that doesn't bother me since the creators confirmed that Agrabah is a port city with Middle Eastern, Indian, and even East Asian influences. In fact, looking at India's culture, you can easily see some Middle Eastern influence. The Taj Mahal looks like a Middle East mosque.
Xiletelo Mabasa well it’s not real. It’s fiction. Maybe they thought of a fictional place that had Indian,Arab,Turkish, culture all mixed into one. Again it is fiction but it is quite interesting
@Wade Church I'm not Trying to imply anything. I'm very clearly saying that I've seen you comment quite a bit on other peoples comments and I noticed how vehemently you argued over the political history of clothing. Frankly dude you're making your self look ridiculously silly. People who read your comments don't think hmm he's got a valid point. All royalty (disney princess) related videos are politically charged. I have an interest in "historical clothing" and have yet to see a good video on UA-cam that ignores the importance of political influence on fashion. I went back and watched a few more of past videos and couldn't find one that didn't mention politics multiple times. I can understand your aversion to wanting to see so much politics just about everywhere but if you are a grown adult I'm sorry to say that you are disillusioning yourself if you are not aware that politics is heavy is your life now so no point in whining huh.
If like me you love textiles, the range of fabrics are gorgeous compared to the simple blue of the animation. I guess social class also dictated heavier amounts of cloth, the higher you went.
I always kinda assumed Aladdin’s clothing was small because he’s probably had that vest for years, and since he didn’t have a mom he just kept it despite him growing 🤷🏼♀️
it was the disneyfication of the story; in the original, his mother was alive and she was the one who went to the palace to ask the princess hand for him; also, the wizard posed as aladdin's uncle to persuade him to get the lamp.
Laila Dawn yes the way it’s pronounced in a posh British accent, or a strong Scottish accent and many others. Many accents roll their r’s. With that logic she’d be saying the same thing if Jafar had a strong Scottish accent.
i’m sure that this had already been said, but i would love this same lady to do an an analysis of the live-action aladdin remake, and do a comparison as well!!!
To everyone saying that Ja'far's accent is an English accent, to be very honest it sounds almost exactly like my grandfather who is Pakistani in origin but learned English in Britain. It's mostly English but definitely has some sort of 'ethnic' undertones.
It is a very arab-british accent, I heard it too! A lot of people forget a lot of arab countries were colonised and for a very long time this is how arabs spoke English But if you want to be more obvious about it, point to the guards with HEAVY stereotypical middle eastern accents. It's embarrassing, I have to fast forward those parts
The lack of detail on the embellishments is definitely because of the limitations on animation when the movie was created, but its so nice to see accurate representations of the clothing!
Yeah, I think this is was an issue with Disney in general, because even with the European princess stories, many of the princesses' gowns weren't that detailed also for the same reasons.
Anyone else notice how Jasmine and Aladdin's historically accurate outfits have similar looks to those in the live action? Disney clearly did their research this time around
Its not that they didnt do their research the first time...its an animated cartoon, it needs to be simplied for the animators and easily adapted to be 'iconic' and recognizable.
guys the 90s version was a cartoon...... please... I could look at the hunchback of notre dame and tell you that the clothes are too minimized, or to Snowhite, the same. It's not a cultural problem, it's not racism, it was a CARTOON
i only just got through the part where she's talking about aladdin's clothes, but the sketch of what his historically accurate clothes would have looked like looks almost identical to his initial concept art. it looks like they changed it for the animated movie and brought it back for the live action.
Plus his outfit when he is in Prince clothes is more like the historical look. So in some ways I wonder if at least with him the reason for omitting items was just to try and show just how poor he was. That his outfit was just pieced together out of whatever could be found. Whilst someone poor would still have shoes, someone homeless might not. Like I've seen homeless people in the UK with no shoes. It happens. :( If he'd had a full outfit but still ragged it might not have emphasised his poverty nearly as much.
@@AlexaFaie that's certainly possible, but I've also heard they wanted to make him more appealing to female viewers, and felt the concept art didn't do that enough
@@crzylkfx Why should his look be appealing to female viewers when the movie was made for kids? So little girls would find a teenage boy attractive if he's shirtless? If that was the case then the (probably male) executives who decided to do that have a skewed sense of logic in thinking that way.
@@erinlee5936 It's more likely for older female audiences who would watch it with the children who'd watch. Just because its G (general audience) rated doesn't mean it's only for kids and Disney always aims their movies for everyone
I know this may not be relevant to attire but anyone else realised that Jasmine’s title would not have been Princess. If Aladdin has followed Ottoman attributes then I’m guessing her name should’ve been Jasmine Sultan and be addressed as “Sultana”, as most of the Ottoman Empire women were after Ayse Hafsa Sultan introduced it for women of the dynasty.
@@jaspreetdayal8366 no not in Ottoman Empire, there is not adding a to make feminine form, they were adressed as lady sultan but not sultana www.theottomans.org/english/family/harem2.asp
Jaspreet Dayal Yes but in the Ottoman Sultanate all their women were addressed as Sultan since they couldn’t ascend the throne. Also the Ottomans ruled over Baghdad for some time after Sultan Murad IV. In the case that there were no male heirs of the throne then the throne would go to another whole dynasty and not a female member of the Sultanate.
@Wade Church You can always skip straight to the drawings. Though I find it interesting how you prefer scribbled drawings onto mannequins with little to no context, over in-depth analysis of how the social and cultural conditions of the time actually influenced these outfits. 🙄
@Wade Church but what they wear is different based on the time and the first half of the video they tried to guess the period and shown the clues that points to it. With other Disney films they've done it's a bit easier but because of mixture of different cultures in Aladdin it became quite difficult to decide on a timeline of it so they explained what are the potential clues and why they chose the era they chose to be accurate and informate you about potential misinformation, so noone ( or the minimum of people get mad at them)
@Wade Church so you just can't see why the politics are important in this vid? Ok, I don't know how else to explain it to you than I just explained before. In the Middle East who is running the countries there is very important for the time and I suppose that lot of people appreciated that they got the right and greatly explained context to the dress decade
Same. Something that slightly puts me off about fashion historians examining the outfits is they are quite rude and disrespectful about it and flat out smashes the designer.
I mean, it doesn’t really matter. The movie only ever claims to draw cultural and aesthetic influences rather than being completely accurate. Cultures, east and west, were meant to be blended.
I thought it was strange when she said the bad guys had middle eastern accents.. but then the clip of Jafar sounded English.. maybe I missed something 🤨🤔
I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.) But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point
@@amygodward4472 sure she was displeased. but around the internet, not only youtube, it seems normal for historians to complain about the movies. i mean, i am yet to see a video about a movie that a historian says yes! thats it! yes thank god someone did a good movie. the best i have heard was " oh! wow, the armours and the costumes were very accurate, so was the casting and buildings. (and then go on about the lack of spears, use of swords against armour, them bows are not warbows, and that person was historically two different persons, or that other person was banished so was not there when that skirmish happened, or that skirmish happened before the current monarch) but wow overall a very historically accurate movie compared to others, good job. watch this people. "
fictionmeister the biggest understatement about history I’ve ever heard!! 😂😂 just because you’re too lazy to research and study historical European clothing doesn’t make you right in saying it’s all the same, it’s like if you said that for Arabic Chinese or Indian clothing
In the live action for Aladdin the outfits looked a lot like Indian clothing but the place looked Arabian but a bit of Persian and also india . They just mixed everything up , so chaotic
I get a lot of what she is saying, but one thing should be mentioned: Aladdin was mainly hand drawn. This means that it would be nearly impossible to make intricate embroidery on the charcters. I think it is allright that she tells about it (the video is about historical accuracy after all) but I do not want people to think it was out of laziness.
AMEN. I hate the trashing of designers...they definitely researched all of this 'stuff' but in the end they had to make it SIMPLE for the animation as well as make it easily iconic and recognizable to kids as well as fit in with the time period it was created..the early 90s. While the green Ottoman sultana outfit for Jasmine is lovely, the tiara is too convoluted and complex, the veil would have been too hard to animate and the color green would clash far too much with Jafar. Red and green...yikes.
I understand but it isn’t too hard to make their outfits more modest to fit the actual facts, I’m not saying I want full hand drawn gold embroidery, just clothes instead of skin especially since they already did it with their previous films which were animated more than 40 years prior (I’m looking at you Cinderella and Snow White). The crop top on jasmine seemed wayyy more like what a belly dancer in the modern era would wear than a royal in the ottoman state, which to me seems like they’re fetishising the look and the stereotype rather than focusing on the character.
Still culturally insensitive, as a star wars fans many Americas currently feel some mild version of the Disney effects, without the anachronistic hyperbole.
N A Jay Oh yeah, I’m definetly on board with you there. Disney had that weird period of fetishising people of colour (Jasmine and Pocahontas to name some) Even as a kid I thought that was Pretty weird. I might not have know what Jasmine was supposed to look like, but I was not stupid enough to Think she was supposed to wear a crop top.
@@katrinepetersen2566 this is silly, I thought it was simply because where Jasmine lived the weather was hot. Besides, what's wrong about having a beautiful main character in a Disney movie? Belle was beautiful too. Snowhite was inspired by the beauty canons of the 30s, Cindarella and Aurore by those of the 50s.. There is nothing wrong in having a hot Pocahontas. Had she been uglier, you would have said Disney was racist because it drew only pretty characters for white people.
The whole villains having Middle Eastern accents didn’t make sense to me cuz is it me or in every movie are the villains always British Russian or German they always have some strong European accent
@Wade Church u have no idea what hypocrisy means bc ur being the biggest hypocrite and theres nothing "woke" about wanting to be historically accurate bc its honestly just facts. how can facts be a political statement unless u want to change those facts and then tell people "HA UR JUST BEING A SJW LIBERAL WOKE LOSER, WHO CARES ABOUT UR HISTORY" lmaooooo ur honestly the biggest hypocrite Wade
@Wade Church as far as I remember, lots of teenager girls dressed like that when the film was released. Just look at the Spice Girls or Britney Spears, and you´ll see the inspiration for Jasmine´s attire (short top, big pants and visible midrif). Disney NEVER was historically accurate with the princesses, in fact, they tried to made them as fashionable as posible.
no it's not about being "woke" but educated. everyone who studies non european studies and cultures knows about the science paper "Orientalism". if you want to understand the issues. read it or just shut up because y'all moping about "negativity," even though it's clearly just critical thinking and academic research, look hella dumb.
Honestly, I was real surprized that "jasmine" would have worn a corset. That always felt so western, but then again it's not like each area was in little fashion vacuums. And who wouldn't want some flattering shape wear if you could afford it. lol
I am a middle eastern and i remember i was so shocked when i heard it was resembling us specially the castle looks very Indian and Jasmine’s clothing The new movie is more accurate but the dancing is so Indian and the music but I think it’s better than before.i like it anyways 👌🏼😊
Didn’t like the narrator in this, the repetition of the same things and the constant cutting off of the historian made it seem the narrator was trying to steal the show or something
@ In the original story Jasmine has fair skin but disney dismissed that like they the dismissed the origin of the story which is in Iraq and the designs and dresses that are more indian or south asian than Arab or even middle eastern
@@yejiii9204 even in India the dress would be culturally inaccurate. Maybe the crop top was easier to animate because there won't be any rustling of garments or so. And yes, if the princess was of Iraq, she wouldn't be white but still be quite fair.
How come we get a good illustrator for this video but not for any of the others? I would have loved to see Snow White, Mary Poppins, Tiana, Mulan, and the others given this much attention.
This video is coming after the much criticised Mulan video. There was a lot of backlash about the illustrations in that one. So I imagine they got a better illustrator for this one. They can't really do anything about older videos unless they remake them
Gosh ppl.... bad guys have accents - wow.... im Russian and literally every freaking movie my ppl are portrayed as bad, evil, horrible ppl.... at this point it isnt even funny anymore and I am getting pretty disappointed and avoid certain movies altogether... seriously none of you noticed how everyone but Americans are portrayed as bad by Hollywood? Consistently.... smh....
I bet Americans in your movies are portrayed as stupid, greedy or selfish, I know for a fact they are in most countries yet here I am not offended or caring at all. Follow my example and don’t let the stupid beliefs of people who don’t know your culture hurt you.
So you only saw Cold War era movies, please shut up and look for some more filmography with quality (besides, most of villains in USA movies has British accent, because it sounds so freaking good and elegant, all directors said that)
You also have to keep in mind that some of the inaccuracies might have happened out of comedic purposes (like the first prince‘s underwear) or because of the animation. When you animate frame by frame, you have to draw a new picture for each frame. The more details a character has, the longer it takes to draw each frame. I‘m guessing that‘s why they simplified the sultans outfit.
Exactly... plus children do not give two fucks about historical accuracy and the more complex outfits would be hard for kids to remember and identify when at walmart picking out action figures... They certainly researched historically accurate fashion but its a disney movie for goodness sake not a history lesson. And to be frank, its clearly more based on Mughal India than whatever Ottoman nonsense shes talking about anyway.
Even if someone used underwear back then it would be a linen diaper. People washed themselves after defecating just like today so hygiene was not a problem.
The Clothes: I am a kurdish Lady and I know Kurds wear this type of pants, both men and women. these pants were part of our traditional costume. even the fighters against IS wear them
THE ART IS SO MUCH BETTER NOW THANK YOU SO FRIGGIN MUCH. Also props to the historian, it was really nice having someone who truly seems like they have an understanding of the topic at hand.
I have always known how the Ottoman Empire has inspired our traditions, but seeing the Aladdin outfits gave me flashbacks of my grandfather, who was photographed wearing a very similar outfit in the 1920s, with the exception of the turban being swapped for the tarbouch. It was a great video, and I really loved the historical part of it. I also wonder if what was called a "kaftan" is what we are actually calling a "caftan," just an evolved version.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Jafar have a British accent? I mean, don’t get me wrong, there are definitely things wrong with Jafar and the rest of the cast, but I’m not sure he’s the sole Arabic-sounding guy. Edit: I made a mistake here. Sorry guys!
sure ill correct you! I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.) But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point.
"The royal palace in Aladdin seems like an exact replica of the Taj Mahal in Agrar India" It's definitely not an exact replica it's only inspired by it.
The setting is clearly inspired heavily by Mughal India in general...as much as she wants it to be 18th century Ottoman Empire, the designers clearly did a pastiche...they didn't say...gee the original storyteller was 18th century Ottoman, lets go with that....eyeroll.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 She's trying to make it accurate, and that entails being specific to one region. Since the original animated film (as well as the remake) is kind of a mishmash of the Middle East and India, they have to pick one. And since the movie leans more to the Middle East (at the time, the Ottoman Empire), that's what they went with for this analysis.
I can understand why they never added the detail on the Saltan's outfit is because it would've taken a long period of time to animate them on any of the characters clothes
@@BUSeixas11kuwait stole Iraqi oil and the Kuwaiti king refused to negotiate in diplomatic talks and went out calling Iraqi women prostitutes in a pubilc speech and the US embassy reassured Iraq not to intervene in case of a war
Sabreen Rashid well since the original story was published in 1837 and judging by Ariel and Eric’s human wardrobe, the film takes place in the late 19th century. There could be potential in comparing Ariel’s pink and blue gowns with Victorian nautical fashion. And with her mermaid attire, it could be compared to historical art depictions of mermaids at the time.
Aladdin is one of Disney’s greatest films and one of the greatest animated films of all time. But it’s understandably insensitive and hasn’t aged well as far as cultural depictions.
I always knew their outfits weren’t historically accurate and I didn’t even know that much a Middle Eastern clothing, Jasmines outfit was too revealing to be historically accurate. Apparently they wanted her to look like the American teenagers of the time. Then when the live action movie came out everyone was mad because the main characters weren’t dressed as revealing as they were in the animated movie. Then Jasmines slave outfit didn’t appear and they were even more pissed. I personally think that we shouldn’t sexulize slaves no matter what the ethnicity is.
Thank you so much!!! I am costuming "Disney's Aladdin Jr." on a zero budget and my costumes will reflect your much more accurate depiction of the appropriate type of dress!
There’s a few more Disney movies I would love to see fashion historians analyse the accuracy of in terms of main characters and their costumes: - The Hunchback of Notre Dame (especially Frollo and Esmerelda’s attires) - The Emperor’s New Groove (we all know Yzma’s outfit is played up for comedy, but the rest of the cast could prove interesting comparison for Incan attire) - Tangled (what era and place is Rapunzel supposed to be set in?) - Brave (How accurate is the depiction of clothing for medieval Scotland?) - Moana (Is it accurate or stereotypical? And when is it set exactly?)
Moana actually was pretty accurate if you watch the bonus features. The point is that its a childrens movie. Pocahontas in reality was forced to leave the woods, she took a Christian name, caught small pox and died. Good luck showing that version to children.
@@mrmrswelch7641 Just because its for children, doesn't mean it shouldn't have a level of accuracy. People should learn about the life of the actual Pocahontas and not obsess of keeping an animated movie's plot in tact.
Christian Salgado Moana’s clothing was actually pretty accurate. Her dress would’ve most likely been one piece rather than two, but the patterns and colors used are spot-on.
I have to disagree about the accents, as other people have pointed out Jafar didn’t have a middle eastern accent it was English....I think Disney does a pretty good job at giving most of the evil characters English accents 😂😂
No. If Aladdin takes place in China, he'd wear Hanfu, or Changshan, and Jasmine would be wearing Hanfu, or Qipao. The king would be wearing a Drangon robe.
and for kids to care about...the more simple the better for children's iconography. aint no kid gonna remember a sultan covered in complicated ikat patterns.
As an Egyptian growing up I hated Aladdin so much For me it was filled with stereo types and I always felt it disrespect the cultures they try to represent.. I mean I didn't know if they want to represent the Arabian culture or the Indian culture or even the Chinese culture and each one of them have more culture and history than the entire history of America I kinda loved the remake tho just because they solved all the things that pissed me.... And thanks for the video it was awesome 💜💜
Jafar doesn't have a 'Middle Eastern' accent though, his accent is Polish-British accent. Aladdin is very popular in India and the Middle East. Yes there are many things culturally wrong with Aladdin, but this lady went say overboard.
I love the fact that disney actually made their clothes accurate in the live action !!!! If you take a look at the accurate drawing and the l.a clothes you will see that they actually tried!!!
For the costume, I think the animators wanted it simple. Comparing to Aladdin’s movie costume and the revised. It is easier to drawing the first one, but that is just one aspect of my speculation because I tried historically animating characters with their clothes are a pain to draw again and again haha.
@Wade Church She wouldn't because it wouldn't be available to her. The Bollywood outfits white people think about are a movie industry only thing. They didn't use to exist in real life. (Now they do because it's the 21st century). In India/Pakistan even High-end prostitutes use to be covered up back in the day.
@Wade Church That doesn't make sense at all. In the movie this outfit is shown as the norm and you are responding to the OP's comment about it being Bollywood. So you are saying she is wearing it to be rebellious but Bollywood doesn't exist in this fictional world and nothing is explained about her outfit. So which is it ?
These clothes are not indian.. they are mainly for the slave women in the palace ..or the dancers .. when bollywood made a movie about Thief of Baghdad in 40’s the actresses who played slaves were wearing what jasmine is wearing and it became a trend in bollywood till today.
When I clicked on this video I did not expect to hear "the setting was changed because America was bombing Iraq"
Because "the content was changed" is your default or American have been bombing Iraq a lot?
@@fionafiona1146 we bomb Iraq a lot
@@painoftheheart12
True
Honestly (as an american), it really annoyed me that they changed the name.
It had nothing to do with the war whatsoever...
Dakota Conn still it’s just a little insensitive to capitalize off of the place their country is literally bombing don’t you think?
Jasmine's historically accurate costume is gorgeous!!!!!
Yeah, the blue one is terrible. It’s not modest at all
It is very nice. Though blue suits her more.
@@leenfira6821 I agree. I've read many complaints about how Jasmine was not wearing her bare midriff outfit in the live-action film. But Jasmine represents the politics of her homeland, therefore wearing an outfit that resembles a seducing belly dancer is not appropriate. I think the live-action film did her justice by removing that.
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@@karmeeleon I agree with you. Though I know that some complained about how Jasmine's outfits look more Indian. Personally, that doesn't bother me since the creators confirmed that Agrabah is a port city with Middle Eastern, Indian, and even East Asian influences. In fact, looking at India's culture, you can easily see some Middle Eastern influence. The Taj Mahal looks like a Middle East mosque.
Ok but can we get “fashion historian fact checks Emperor’s New Groove”
Omg yes!
We all know that it's not accurate
please!!!
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"ok so they didnt turn into llamas and the llamas couldnt talk"
When I was little I thought Aladdin was set in India because of all the Indian references. Like the palace and the tiger.
Me too!!
Xiletelo Mabasa well it’s not real. It’s fiction. Maybe they thought of a fictional place that had Indian,Arab,Turkish, culture all mixed into one. Again it is fiction but it is quite interesting
SAME
Xiletelo Mabasa bro me too
Same i thot they were indian cuz the palace looked like a gurdwara
Thank GOD they finally got a better illustrator! And a historian who knows this specific era and culture! So much better!!!
@Wade Church hmmm aren't you the same wade church who wasnt able to comprehend that all fashion worn by royals is politically motivated???
@Wade Church I'm not Trying to imply anything. I'm very clearly saying that I've seen you comment quite a bit on other peoples comments and I noticed how vehemently you argued over the political history of clothing. Frankly dude you're making your self look ridiculously silly. People who read your comments don't think hmm he's got a valid point. All royalty (disney princess) related videos are politically charged. I have an interest in "historical clothing" and have yet to see a good video on UA-cam that ignores the importance of political influence on fashion. I went back and watched a few more of past videos and couldn't find one that didn't mention politics multiple times. I can understand your aversion to wanting to see so much politics just about everywhere but if you are a grown adult I'm sorry to say that you are disillusioning yourself if you are not aware that politics is heavy is your life now so no point in whining huh.
@Wade ChurchTo be fair, the person they normally have analyze these videos makes a lot of mistakes.
Wade Church check the comments on the frozen one, there you have some examples.
I haven't watched the other videos but this lady knows her stuff better because she's Turkish
Is it just me or is the more historically accurate dress prettier than the movie’s version?
If like me you love textiles, the range of fabrics are gorgeous compared to the simple blue of the animation. I guess social class also dictated heavier amounts of cloth, the higher you went.
No it is not just you.They are pretty good and i think they relay did a great job
Of course.
not just you, jasmine was the sultan's daughter she 100% would NOT be wearing plain blue cloth. if you have money and power you had to show it off!
A salwar kameez(top) always looks beautiful.
I always kinda assumed Aladdin’s clothing was small because he’s probably had that vest for years, and since he didn’t have a mom he just kept it despite him growing 🤷🏼♀️
Muslim vests are shorter because the sash covers the lower parts of the upper body.
Mystery Man Thank you for telling me that. Ya learn something new everyday
it was the disneyfication of the story; in the original, his mother was alive and she was the one who went to the palace to ask the princess hand for him; also, the wizard posed as aladdin's uncle to persuade him to get the lamp.
lmao same ....
Killua zoldyck Same. Jasmine’s looked really pretty.
"The more villainous characters have strong middle eastern accents" Cuts to Jafar with a posh British accent...
yeah there is only jafar and iago and they both do not have ME accents.
I think the video is referring to how the "r" is pronounced.
Laila Dawn yes the way it’s pronounced in a posh British accent, or a strong Scottish accent and many others. Many accents roll their r’s. With that logic she’d be saying the same thing if Jafar had a strong Scottish accent.
IKRRRR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah she is definitely not a linguist
Thank you so much for better drawings this time - I'm sorry, but the ones used in the Mulan video were just awful.
Lionstar16 😭😭😭
They have ALL been awfull and messy up till this one
@@LadyLocket i know right? mulan was the worst by far but they all sucked
Bet you couldn’t do better
@@Ava-bv8xq I wish I could ☺️ hahaha
i’m sure that this had already been said, but i would love this same lady to do an an analysis of the live-action aladdin remake, and do a comparison as well!!!
Bio Kimistry mmmnmmm not really :/
YAASSS
I like that the historically accurate Jasmine outfit looks like the live action remake, too.
@@ArtsyChick24 yeah
I have a feeling this historian low-key doesn't like Aladdin
Pandulse123 Nothing low key about it. She has obvious disdain for it but a very professional demeanor.
I’ve seen a lot of criticism for Aladdin over the last few years.
She elegantly dragged its issues the entire video, I lived!!
I didn't like it much either.
Pandulse123 or anything American like this movie. They transformed it into something children can watch
To everyone saying that Ja'far's accent is an English accent, to be very honest it sounds almost exactly like my grandfather who is Pakistani in origin but learned English in Britain. It's mostly English but definitely has some sort of 'ethnic' undertones.
It is a very arab-british accent, I heard it too!
A lot of people forget a lot of arab countries were colonised and for a very long time this is how arabs spoke English
But if you want to be more obvious about it, point to the guards with HEAVY stereotypical middle eastern accents.
It's embarrassing, I have to fast forward those parts
@@starcherry6814 yeah
@@starcherry6814 yup
The lack of detail on the embellishments is definitely because of the limitations on animation when the movie was created, but its so nice to see accurate representations of the clothing!
Yeah, I think this is was an issue with Disney in general, because even with the European princess stories, many of the princesses' gowns weren't that detailed also for the same reasons.
Anyone else notice how Jasmine and Aladdin's historically accurate outfits have similar looks to those in the live action? Disney clearly did their research this time around
Its not that they didnt do their research the first time...its an animated cartoon, it needs to be simplied for the animators and easily adapted to be 'iconic' and recognizable.
Caligula Longhbottom the live action costumes were heavily inspired by the Indian culture, not Arab.
True!!!!
Not to mention how cheap and tacky they look
guys the 90s version was a cartoon...... please... I could look at the hunchback of notre dame and tell you that the clothes are too minimized, or to Snowhite, the same. It's not a cultural problem, it's not racism, it was a CARTOON
i only just got through the part where she's talking about aladdin's clothes, but the sketch of what his historically accurate clothes would have looked like looks almost identical to his initial concept art. it looks like they changed it for the animated movie and brought it back for the live action.
Plus his outfit when he is in Prince clothes is more like the historical look. So in some ways I wonder if at least with him the reason for omitting items was just to try and show just how poor he was. That his outfit was just pieced together out of whatever could be found. Whilst someone poor would still have shoes, someone homeless might not. Like I've seen homeless people in the UK with no shoes. It happens. :( If he'd had a full outfit but still ragged it might not have emphasised his poverty nearly as much.
@@AlexaFaie that's certainly possible, but I've also heard they wanted to make him more appealing to female viewers, and felt the concept art didn't do that enough
@@crzylkfx Why should his look be appealing to female viewers when the movie was made for kids? So little girls would find a teenage boy attractive if he's shirtless? If that was the case then the (probably male) executives who decided to do that have a skewed sense of logic in thinking that way.
@@erinlee5936 It's more likely for older female audiences who would watch it with the children who'd watch. Just because its G (general audience) rated doesn't mean it's only for kids and Disney always aims their movies for everyone
I know this may not be relevant to attire but anyone else realised that Jasmine’s title would not have been Princess. If Aladdin has followed Ottoman attributes then I’m guessing her name should’ve been Jasmine Sultan and be addressed as “Sultana”, as most of the Ottoman Empire women were after Ayse Hafsa Sultan introduced it for women of the dynasty.
ottmoan empire women weren't adressed as sultana, thy were adressed as "sultans" too
@@NarutoUzumaki-vy3jb Female leaders were called Sultanas, which is the feminine form of Sultan.
@@jaspreetdayal8366 no not in Ottoman Empire, there is not adding a to make feminine form, they were adressed as lady sultan but not sultana www.theottomans.org/english/family/harem2.asp
The story was written before the ottomans
Jaspreet Dayal
Yes but in the Ottoman Sultanate all their women were addressed as Sultan since they couldn’t ascend the throne. Also the Ottomans ruled over Baghdad for some time after Sultan Murad IV.
In the case that there were no male heirs of the throne then the throne would go to another whole dynasty and not a female member of the Sultanate.
This was great, and the drawings are so much better now. Keep this illustrator please, the detail is brilliant.
@Wade Church You can always skip straight to the drawings. Though I find it interesting how you prefer scribbled drawings onto mannequins with little to no context, over in-depth analysis of how the social and cultural conditions of the time actually influenced these outfits. 🙄
Wade Church to understand the fashion you have to understand the surrounding politics.
@Wade Church but what they wear is different based on the time and the first half of the video they tried to guess the period and shown the clues that points to it. With other Disney films they've done it's a bit easier but because of mixture of different cultures in Aladdin it became quite difficult to decide on a timeline of it so they explained what are the potential clues and why they chose the era they chose to be accurate and informate you about potential misinformation, so noone ( or the minimum of people get mad at them)
@Wade Church and the video is approximately the same length as others they've done
@Wade Church so you just can't see why the politics are important in this vid? Ok, I don't know how else to explain it to you than I just explained before. In the Middle East who is running the countries there is very important for the time and I suppose that lot of people appreciated that they got the right and greatly explained context to the dress decade
I like the historian's calm and clear presentation without smug jokes or obnoxious tone.
Same. Something that slightly puts me off about fashion historians examining the outfits is they are quite rude and disrespectful about it and flat out smashes the designer.
Jasmine's accurate dress is even more gorgeous than her original costume
I think they should re-do the Mulan video with a historian and the illustrator who did the illustrations in this one.
Topher Topher Ur wasn’t as bad as you think it is
Oh God the Mulan illustrations were TERRIBLE
@@mcwyman7928 IKR
Christian Salgado the illustrations in Mulan WAS AS BAD AS I REMEMBER
@@iamchristian1129 you again 😩
So it looks like the outfits in the live action remake is the more historical accurate ones
jonathan freeman , jafar's voice actor, is an american
Jasmines were not
Arabian Mariam ur perspective is more informed and as a textile designer I can say it is valuable information
Sara K but isn’t Aladdin supposed be a mix of india and Arab culture since the sultan’s palace is based on the Taj Mahal
Christian Salgado still applies tho
I love how she wasn’t afraid to drag the obvious westernisation of Middle Eastern culture and people in Aladdin.
I mean, it doesn’t really matter. The movie only ever claims to draw cultural and aesthetic influences rather than being completely accurate. Cultures, east and west, were meant to be blended.
I thought it was strange when she said the bad guys had middle eastern accents.. but then the clip of Jafar sounded English..
maybe I missed something 🤨🤔
I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.)
But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point
I think they switched to his face to show is less-European features
That’s Exactly what I thought! Lol
Sandra Rose it’s an englishman doing a terrible middle eastern accent but we never noticed because we are largely ignorant of these cultures
He is a British man trying to do a hoge poge of Arabic/Persian/Indian accent while still maintaining the tradition of British villains speech.
Why did they keep rushing the historian and cutting her off? It's frustrating.
Elisabeth Chavarria omg yes it’s so rude!
I noticed this too, the narrator even sounds irritated... "Ok, moving on..."
They weren't. She was explaining it all in one whole footage that needs to be cut into different parts during editing.
Well when the historian spends the first 5 minutes complaining about the film....
@@amygodward4472
sure she was displeased. but around the internet, not only youtube, it seems normal for historians to complain about the movies. i mean, i am yet to see a video about a movie that a historian says yes! thats it! yes thank god someone did a good movie.
the best i have heard was " oh! wow, the armours and the costumes were very accurate, so was the casting and buildings. (and then go on about the lack of spears, use of swords against armour, them bows are not warbows, and that person was historically two different persons, or that other person was banished so was not there when that skirmish happened, or that skirmish happened before the current monarch) but wow overall a very historically accurate movie compared to others, good job. watch this people. "
I love Jasmine’s historically accurate look vs her original one! 💕 😍
me too ♥
Bio Kimistry not really. It turned Asian than Arabic. And even the new Asian look was not completely accurate anyway
x2
But she is wearing stays(corset) on a bare skin
You better make a historically accurate version of Disney’s Cinderella.
Yeah
This would be kind of difficult because every culture has a Cinderella story.
Lizzie Cottrell it would most likely be the Charles Perrault version which is the one with the glass slipper that everyone knows
sounds so boring, all European dresses are almost exactly the same with a few minor nuances over the centuries
fictionmeister the biggest understatement about history I’ve ever heard!! 😂😂 just because you’re too lazy to research and study historical European clothing doesn’t make you right in saying it’s all the same, it’s like if you said that for Arabic Chinese or Indian clothing
"I assume he'll wear underwear, but I'm not sure" OMG I died 💀💀💀
In the live action for Aladdin the outfits looked a lot like Indian clothing but the place looked Arabian but a bit of Persian and also india . They just mixed everything up , so chaotic
GO OFF SIS. I love the addition of the social constructs of why the characters look the way they did!
I get a lot of what she is saying, but one thing should be mentioned: Aladdin was mainly hand drawn. This means that it would be nearly impossible to make intricate embroidery on the charcters. I think it is allright that she tells about it (the video is about historical accuracy after all) but I do not want people to think it was out of laziness.
AMEN. I hate the trashing of designers...they definitely researched all of this 'stuff' but in the end they had to make it SIMPLE for the animation as well as make it easily iconic and recognizable to kids as well as fit in with the time period it was created..the early 90s. While the green Ottoman sultana outfit for Jasmine is lovely, the tiara is too convoluted and complex, the veil would have been too hard to animate and the color green would clash far too much with Jafar. Red and green...yikes.
I understand but it isn’t too hard to make their outfits more modest to fit the actual facts, I’m not saying I want full hand drawn gold embroidery, just clothes instead of skin especially since they already did it with their previous films which were animated more than 40 years prior (I’m looking at you Cinderella and Snow White). The crop top on jasmine seemed wayyy more like what a belly dancer in the modern era would wear than a royal in the ottoman state, which to me seems like they’re fetishising the look and the stereotype rather than focusing on the character.
Still culturally insensitive, as a star wars fans many Americas currently feel some mild version of the Disney effects, without the anachronistic hyperbole.
N A Jay Oh yeah, I’m definetly on board with you there. Disney had that weird period of fetishising people of colour (Jasmine and Pocahontas to name some) Even as a kid I thought that was Pretty weird. I might not have know what Jasmine was supposed to look like, but I was not stupid enough to Think she was supposed to wear a crop top.
@@katrinepetersen2566 this is silly, I thought it was simply because where Jasmine lived the weather was hot. Besides, what's wrong about having a beautiful main character in a Disney movie? Belle was beautiful too. Snowhite was inspired by the beauty canons of the 30s, Cindarella and Aurore by those of the 50s.. There is nothing wrong in having a hot Pocahontas. Had she been uglier, you would have said Disney was racist because it drew only pretty characters for white people.
The whole villains having Middle Eastern accents didn’t make sense to me cuz is it me or in every movie are the villains always British Russian or German they always have some strong European accent
"Let's use the 18th century male European gaze to design the princess"
"Great idea, bro"
"Thanks, bro"
@Wade Church People love drama and negativity that's it.
@Wade Church u have no idea what hypocrisy means bc ur being the biggest hypocrite and theres nothing "woke" about wanting to be historically accurate bc its honestly just facts. how can facts be a political statement unless u want to change those facts and then tell people "HA UR JUST BEING A SJW LIBERAL WOKE LOSER, WHO CARES ABOUT UR HISTORY" lmaooooo ur honestly the biggest hypocrite Wade
@Wade Church as far as I remember, lots of teenager girls dressed like that when the film was released. Just look at the Spice Girls or Britney Spears, and you´ll see the inspiration for Jasmine´s attire (short top, big pants and visible midrif). Disney NEVER was historically accurate with the princesses, in fact, they tried to made them as fashionable as posible.
no it's not about being "woke" but educated. everyone who studies non european studies and cultures knows about the science paper "Orientalism". if you want to understand the issues. read it or just shut up because y'all moping about "negativity," even though it's clearly just critical thinking and academic research, look hella dumb.
@Wade Church I doubt children would find that very relatable.
I would have liked to see Jafar.
Ironically I think his clothing would be the most accurate, right up there with his Middle Eastern accent. Go figure.
@@Nurichiri He has a British accent
@@lillian9445 Still closer than an American one.
@@Nurichiri Idk I think British would be closer to American rather than Middle Eastern
@@lillian9445 I meant that GB is closer to the Middle East than the United States is.
I would kill to be a in lecture about her take on orientalism
Same
that’s embarrassing
Read Edward Said's book, Orientalism. Everything's in there.
Yes!
Jasmine’s outfit looks more like a Bollywood actress outfit than a princess tbh
OMG thank you I knew when I was little that Jasmine was reminding me of something 😂
The historian spent more than the first 5 minutes of the video DRAGGING Aladdin
Nocturne22 the movie deserves it
I dont think so
Lol they asked her opinion! 🤷♀️
It pissed me off... This was supposed to be about wardrobe.
She was giving context for the time and location. Can’t figure out “historically accurate” dress without time and location.
Honestly, I was real surprized that "jasmine" would have worn a corset.
That always felt so western, but then again it's not like each area was in little fashion vacuums. And who wouldn't want some flattering shape wear if you could afford it. lol
I like Jasmine's historically accurate outfit better then the one she has in the movie
“Historian fact checks aladdins costume” *starts giving everyone a lecture on why this movie is racist*
Carrot Artichoke she’s really right though
If not for this video, I never would have known
As she should be, because it's true and entire cultures are being harmed because of it?
Even as a kid I felt Jasmine's costume to be too revealing 😳
Well look at that, the live action was closer to historical accuracy.
I am a middle eastern and i remember i was so shocked when i heard it was resembling us specially the castle looks very Indian and Jasmine’s clothing The new movie is more accurate but the dancing is so Indian and the music but I think it’s better than before.i like it anyways 👌🏼😊
Same
I know right those dances are mainly inspired by Indian classical dance kathak.
Didn’t like the narrator in this, the repetition of the same things and the constant cutting off of the historian made it seem the narrator was trying to steal the show or something
Agreed. The narrator was completely unnecessary in this. Just let the exist talk. I promise, wet won't get confused.
Agreed, it felt like the narrator was only interested in the fashion and was annoyed at the rest of it.
I know right! The historian was brilliant but the narrator was so annoying. It seemed rude to cut off the historian.
But that is surely the editing not the narrator. The narrator was probably given a script, and the editor chose how it was put together.
Right
Isn't Jafar's accent British though? I'm English, and that is an English accent.
oh I can answer this they edited it at "the ruff" part to make him sound less British 1:34
@ In the original story Jasmine has fair skin but disney dismissed that like they the dismissed the origin of the story which is in Iraq and the designs and dresses that are more indian or south asian than Arab or even middle eastern
@@yejiii9204 even in India the dress would be culturally inaccurate. Maybe the crop top was easier to animate because there won't be any rustling of garments or so. And yes, if the princess was of Iraq, she wouldn't be white but still be quite fair.
No
How come we get a good illustrator for this video but not for any of the others? I would have loved to see Snow White, Mary Poppins, Tiana, Mulan, and the others given this much attention.
This video is coming after the much criticised Mulan video. There was a lot of backlash about the illustrations in that one.
So I imagine they got a better illustrator for this one. They can't really do anything about older videos unless they remake them
The only truly terrible one was Mulan
Because the left worships Islamic culture for some reason
@@milliebilling5352 stfu
Gosh ppl.... bad guys have accents - wow.... im Russian and literally every freaking movie my ppl are portrayed as bad, evil, horrible ppl.... at this point it isnt even funny anymore and I am getting pretty disappointed and avoid certain movies altogether... seriously none of you noticed how everyone but Americans are portrayed as bad by Hollywood? Consistently.... smh....
A lot of Americans are tired of it too. It undermines otherwise okay movies! Makes them feel like racist propaganda.
I bet Americans in your movies are portrayed as stupid, greedy or selfish, I know for a fact they are in most countries yet here I am not offended or caring at all. Follow my example and don’t let the stupid beliefs of people who don’t know your culture hurt you.
So you only saw Cold War era movies, please shut up and look for some more filmography with quality (besides, most of villains in USA movies has British accent, because it sounds so freaking good and elegant, all directors said that)
Cold war baby..
Dalie's Art Lab - What I’ve noticed is that most villains have posh English accents.... As a Brit I take it as a compliment 👹😂
16:26 The level of detail in those drawings 😳
I’m glad you took meme mom’s advice, these informative and honest and focused videos have been incredible
I would be so glad if that were the reason! I love her
It can't be too accurate because the Sultan should've looked normal instead of Papa Smurf.
THEY FINALLY HIRED A GOOD ILLUSTRATOR YAYYYYY
You also have to keep in mind that some of the inaccuracies might have happened out of comedic purposes (like the first prince‘s underwear) or because of the animation. When you animate frame by frame, you have to draw a new picture for each frame. The more details a character has, the longer it takes to draw each frame. I‘m guessing that‘s why they simplified the sultans outfit.
Exactly... plus children do not give two fucks about historical accuracy and the more complex outfits would be hard for kids to remember and identify when at walmart picking out action figures... They certainly researched historically accurate fashion but its a disney movie for goodness sake not a history lesson. And to be frank, its clearly more based on Mughal India than whatever Ottoman nonsense shes talking about anyway.
we got some literary history as well as fashion history that’s pretty.... lit 😎
Y’all finally got a good illustrator!!!!
I Wonder what Jasmine's and Aladdin's wedding clothes would have looked like if they were historically accurate.
Wait you never explained why you rushed through the underwear...
Because the layer 1 pictures would’ve probably all been nudes...
Even if someone used underwear back then it would be a linen diaper.
People washed themselves after defecating just like today so hygiene was not a problem.
Guys you are missing the biggest thing they got an actually good artist!!!
I would say Jafar's accent is more British/Theatrical/Shakespearean than Middle Eastern
The Clothes: I am a kurdish Lady and I know Kurds wear this type of pants, both men and women. these pants were part of our traditional costume. even the fighters against IS wear them
kuwa jzhn labari aka rast nakai
These types of pants, salwar, are worn in India too! I guess the Arabs introduced then to India
THE ART IS SO MUCH BETTER NOW THANK YOU SO FRIGGIN MUCH. Also props to the historian, it was really nice having someone who truly seems like they have an understanding of the topic at hand.
Would have been nice to have Aladdin be Central Asian/Chinese like the original story.
Yup, with Chinese fashion and architecture. I would be a different kind of beautiful.
I have always known how the Ottoman Empire has inspired our traditions, but seeing the Aladdin outfits gave me flashbacks of my grandfather, who was photographed wearing a very similar outfit in the 1920s, with the exception of the turban being swapped for the tarbouch. It was a great video, and I really loved the historical part of it. I also wonder if what was called a "kaftan" is what we are actually calling a "caftan," just an evolved version.
Okay so the artist for this episode is great! Also the historical context is great
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Jafar have a British accent? I mean, don’t get me wrong, there are definitely things wrong with Jafar and the rest of the cast, but I’m not sure he’s the sole Arabic-sounding guy.
Edit: I made a mistake here. Sorry guys!
Sweaty Skeleton yeah he had a British accent and he’s the biggest villain
sure ill correct you!
I even checked to make sure I was remembering this right, and sure enough, among the characters who have 'Middle Eastern' accents, it's mostly the guards, henchmen, that one vaguely untrustworthy trader in the intro, and (I think-- I couldn't find the clip--) prostitutes. The heroes sound American. (And there's plenty to say about the fact that the voice cast of this film is almost entirely white and American.)
But you're undermining Professor Baltacıoğlu-Brammer's otherwise correct point by picking the wrong footage to illustrate her point.
I think they were trying to show less-European features
But isn’t his voice actor American?
Who else wants a Indian disney princess ?
I love how this historian tears apart the inaccuracies and racism of the film and delivers the truth with a divine fury. Get it, girl.
"The royal palace in Aladdin seems like an exact replica of the Taj Mahal in Agrar India" It's definitely not an exact replica it's only inspired by it.
Agra*
The setting is clearly inspired heavily by Mughal India in general...as much as she wants it to be 18th century Ottoman Empire, the designers clearly did a pastiche...they didn't say...gee the original storyteller was 18th century Ottoman, lets go with that....eyeroll.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 She's trying to make it accurate, and that entails being specific to one region. Since the original animated film (as well as the remake) is kind of a mishmash of the Middle East and India, they have to pick one. And since the movie leans more to the Middle East (at the time, the Ottoman Empire), that's what they went with for this analysis.
Way more historically accurate in the live-action version clothing wise.
I can understand why they never added the detail on the Saltan's outfit is because it would've taken a long period of time to animate them on any of the characters clothes
2:00 “when the US started bombing Iraq” what a savage. I love it
Because Iraq was bombing Kuwait
@@BUSeixas11 and the us was bombing iraq
@@BUSeixas11kuwait stole Iraqi oil and the Kuwaiti king refused to negotiate in diplomatic talks and went out calling Iraqi women prostitutes in a pubilc speech and the US embassy reassured Iraq not to intervene in case of a war
Historically accurate Little Mermaid please!!!
Accurate to what, mermaid culture? Lol
Sabreen Rashid well since the original story was published in 1837 and judging by Ariel and Eric’s human wardrobe, the film takes place in the late 19th century. There could be potential in comparing Ariel’s pink and blue gowns with Victorian nautical fashion. And with her mermaid attire, it could be compared to historical art depictions of mermaids at the time.
@@harrisonschaufel7309 Yeah, you wish. Since "historical art depictions of mermaids" are nude.
Aladdin is one of Disney’s greatest films and one of the greatest animated films of all time. But it’s understandably insensitive and hasn’t aged well as far as cultural depictions.
Princess Jasmine’s accurate outfit is BEAUTIFUL
TIMESTAMPS FOR Y’ALL!:
Aladdin: 9:33
Jasmine: 12:27
Her dad: 15:21
Aladdin is one of the Iraqi legends mentioned in the book 1000 nights
As an arab myself this analysis is very accurate to what ive observed in history class lol
I always knew their outfits weren’t historically accurate and I didn’t even know that much a Middle Eastern clothing, Jasmines outfit was too revealing to be historically accurate. Apparently they wanted her to look like the American teenagers of the time. Then when the live action movie came out everyone was mad because the main characters weren’t dressed as revealing as they were in the animated movie. Then Jasmines slave outfit didn’t appear and they were even more pissed. I personally think that we shouldn’t sexulize slaves no matter what the ethnicity is.
"The villain has a strong Middle Eastern accent" Jafar has a stereotypical 'British' accent?? 😂
Yeah Jeremy Irons is British
@@midlight9758 it's not Jeremy Irons, it's Jonathan Freeman
@@midlight9758 Jeremy Irons is Scar in The Lion King 😊
Finally someone called that movie out.
Thank you so much!!! I am costuming "Disney's Aladdin Jr." on a zero budget and my costumes will reflect your much more accurate depiction of the appropriate type of dress!
Now I want a desi/Indian/Pakistani/Bengali Disney Princess movie
At disney world the aladdin and jasmine actors wear outfits seemingly more historically accurate according to this. very interesting!
Girll those outfits you reillustrated are not Arabic, its turkish & Persian outfits.
Exactly. Yet everyone likes to lump Arabs with Persianate cultures
That's the whole point the historian was making - the story was set closer to Persian than Arab civilisations.
The story was happening in iran while the ottoman empire was ruling what did you expect?
There’s a few more Disney movies I would love to see fashion historians analyse the accuracy of in terms of main characters and their costumes:
- The Hunchback of Notre Dame (especially Frollo and Esmerelda’s attires)
- The Emperor’s New Groove (we all know Yzma’s outfit is played up for comedy, but the rest of the cast could prove interesting comparison for Incan attire)
- Tangled (what era and place is Rapunzel supposed to be set in?)
- Brave (How accurate is the depiction of clothing for medieval Scotland?)
- Moana (Is it accurate or stereotypical? And when is it set exactly?)
Can you plz do Pocahontas or maybe Moana
Moana actually was pretty accurate if you watch the bonus features.
The point is that its a childrens movie.
Pocahontas in reality was forced to leave the woods, she took a Christian name, caught small pox and died. Good luck showing that version to children.
Yes Moana
@@mrmrswelch7641 Just because its for children, doesn't mean it shouldn't have a level of accuracy. People should learn about the life of the actual Pocahontas and not obsess of keeping an animated movie's plot in tact.
MrMrs Welch they're talking about the character's clothes
Christian Salgado Moana’s clothing was actually pretty accurate. Her dress would’ve most likely been one piece rather than two, but the patterns and colors used are spot-on.
> The villains have Middle Eastern accents
> Cut to Jafar with a very British accent
🤷🏼♂️
I have to disagree about the accents, as other people have pointed out Jafar didn’t have a middle eastern accent it was English....I think Disney does a pretty good job at giving most of the evil characters English accents 😂😂
Same thing with Uncle Scar lol
For real. Scar comes to mind
This actually makes me happy that means the live action Aladdin really tried to get it more accurate.
No. If Aladdin takes place in China, he'd wear Hanfu, or Changshan, and Jasmine would be wearing Hanfu, or Qipao. The king would be wearing a Drangon robe.
If it's set in Xinjiang, he would not wear Hanfu, but still Uyghur's ruler wasn't Sultan but Khan.
I read the original fairytale as a kid and when I saw this I was like
"Ooooooh, this must have been a frustrating research!"
I could listen to this lady talk about how wrong Aladdin is historically for hours. It's really interesting!
I thought Jafar’s accent was British 🤷🏽♀️
There is a long history of making the bad guys have British accents
I prefer the more accurate versions. They're absolutely beautiful! They probably would've been a whole lot harder for animators tho.
and for kids to care about...the more simple the better for children's iconography. aint no kid gonna remember a sultan covered in complicated ikat patterns.
As an Egyptian growing up I hated Aladdin so much
For me it was filled with stereo types and I always felt it disrespect the cultures they try to represent.. I mean I didn't know if they want to represent the Arabian culture or the Indian culture or even the Chinese culture and each one of them have more culture and history than the entire history of America
I kinda loved the remake tho just because they solved all the things that pissed me....
And thanks for the video it was awesome 💜💜
Ooh thanks for sharing your feelings on it! Now I want to check out the new movie
@@Ninkira thank YOU for your nice replay 💜💜
The remake is soooo good!
*Persian and Persianate (Ottoman) cultures
As soon as Muslim heard it is a jinn helped a human there was already a boycot by scholars.
Please do this again with is the 2019 version!! I really want to know the Dr's thoughts on it :)
Jafar doesn't have a 'Middle Eastern' accent though, his accent is Polish-British accent. Aladdin is very popular in India and the Middle East. Yes there are many things culturally wrong with Aladdin, but this lady went say overboard.
I love the fact that disney actually made their clothes accurate in the live action !!!! If you take a look at the accurate drawing and the l.a clothes you will see that they actually tried!!!
For the costume, I think the animators wanted it simple. Comparing to Aladdin’s movie costume and the revised. It is easier to drawing the first one, but that is just one aspect of my speculation because I tried historically animating characters with their clothes are a pain to draw again and again haha.
Jafar has an english accent who's stayed in the U.S too long.
this made so much sense! I always thought Aladdin was a story set in India.
I was surprised to grow up and find out he was in the middle east!
I always thought Jasmine's outfit looks a lot more like a Bollywood dancer's not a modest Muslim woman 👀
@Wade Church She wouldn't because it wouldn't be available to her. The Bollywood outfits white people think about are a movie industry only thing. They didn't use to exist in real life. (Now they do because it's the 21st century). In India/Pakistan even High-end prostitutes use to be covered up back in the day.
@Wade Church That doesn't make sense at all. In the movie this outfit is shown as the norm and you are responding to the OP's comment about it being Bollywood. So you are saying she is wearing it to be rebellious but Bollywood doesn't exist in this fictional world and nothing is explained about her outfit. So which is it ?
@Wade Church eh do you know that it's illegal for a princess in the middle east to be wearing some bras in public?
Jasmines earrings are nice.
These clothes are not indian.. they are mainly for the slave women in the palace ..or the dancers .. when bollywood made a movie about Thief of Baghdad in 40’s the actresses who played slaves were wearing what jasmine is wearing and it became a trend in bollywood till today.