GrapheneOS: What to Expect from Your De-Googled Phone

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  • Опубліковано 16 січ 2025

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  • @simonmaersk
    @simonmaersk 10 місяців тому +2

    I just ordered the Pixel 8. Looking forward to flash Graphene OS to it!

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  10 місяців тому +1

      Go for it!

    • @simonmaersk
      @simonmaersk 10 місяців тому

      @@privacyproshop Loving it so far! Thanks for the informative videos.

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk 7 місяців тому

      ​@@simonmaersk3 month update?

    • @simonmaersk
      @simonmaersk 7 місяців тому +1

      @@utubepunk I'm loving it! Definitely never going back

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk 7 місяців тому

      @@simonmaersk Good to hear. I think the Pixel 9 drops this year. Sounds like you won't be upgrading.

  • @user-rn9uy2rq1w
    @user-rn9uy2rq1w Рік тому +4

    Thanks for the content. As for the keyboard, you need to install a keyboard without a keylogger that sends everything you type to some servers.

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +2

      Very true. You could also block all network traffic by the app.

    • @user-rn9uy2rq1w
      @user-rn9uy2rq1w Рік тому

      @@user-fm5xf4pe6v Yes

    • @heinzkitzvelvet
      @heinzkitzvelvet Рік тому +2

      I have Gboard on my 6a with GrapheneOS. The app has no permissions allowed, so it cannot possibly send any data, to any server, anywhere. Yet it works great. However, I cannot use the GIF feature as it has no ability to connect to the web and search gif images.

    • @user-rn9uy2rq1w
      @user-rn9uy2rq1w Рік тому +1

      @@heinzkitzvelvet I don't see the point of installing gboard and denying all permissions if you can install an open source keyboard that does not have any permissions except the necessary ones, for example vibration

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому

      @@heinzkitzvelvet Thanks for sharing

  • @dagoelius
    @dagoelius 10 місяців тому +1

    By buying a Pixel phone are you not still funding Google? It bugs me GrapheneOS based development to the Pixel line of phones and not other brands.

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  10 місяців тому +1

      That has to do with Google's commitment to security. Graphene is firstly a highly secure OS, and secondarily a privacy OS.

  • @reclee8333
    @reclee8333 Рік тому +2

    Can Graphene OS disable cellular connectivity so that your phone won't ping any cellular base station (even without SIM)?
    If not, are there apps which can do this?

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +1

      If you put it in airplane mode it should disable the cellular radio as far as I understand.

  • @utubepunk
    @utubepunk 7 місяців тому

    Is there tap to pay functionality in GrapheneOS?

  • @technofi2554
    @technofi2554 Рік тому

    The phone still maintains a connection to the cell tower after the sim is removed and can be tracked via hardware identifiers. Anyone who cares about cellular tower tracking are better off just not having a phone.
    Put it on airplane mode or turn it off if you are that worried.

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +2

      True

    • @heinzkitzvelvet
      @heinzkitzvelvet Рік тому

      The phone might be tracked by hardware identifiers, but it's only dangerous if the hardware is linked to you in a database. Anonymity is the key to winning the cat and mouse game with big tech.

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому

      @@heinzkitzvelvet That's true.

    • @itsmelampoi
      @itsmelampoi Рік тому +2

      I think it's called the ss7 network in the uk, even with a sim out your 0hone still pings and you can call emergency only.

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@heinzkitzvelvet I thought GrapheneOS obscures hardware identifiers & randomizes its MAC address? Am I missing something?

  • @joannaconnelly4701
    @joannaconnelly4701 Рік тому +1

    I asked some questions in the GraphneOS Matrix Channel. If I had a second user on my phone, and if this space had Google Play Services installed, would there would be back-and-forth communication for apps with the first space and vice versa.
    At first, I got multiple responses saying that yes, in fact, this happened. I then kept asking and got this, whatever it means: ( If app A in the first profile has a server that can be accessed via localhost, then app B in the second profile can access that server, and vice versa (if they both have network permission).
    Does this mean that apps in the second user account not work profile can read the apps and other settings on the first user account that does not have gplay installed?
    I am confused. Can you help clear this up please.

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +1

      No. Sandboxed gplay apps can't read anything in the first, unless an app in the first profile has a server installed that allows access to it from the network.
      So, could there be an app that allows access to other apps? Probably. Is it likely? I don't think so.

  • @iamshewhowalksalone820
    @iamshewhowalksalone820 Рік тому

    I am trying to find an alternative to GBoard, I need the microphone for talk to text and the app I have, the microphone doesn't work, is there another app I need?

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +2

      I don't think talk to text will work on GrapheneOS as it requires some Google cloud magic.

    • @iamshewhowalksalone820
      @iamshewhowalksalone820 Рік тому

      @@privacyproshop Thank you for responding, as much as I don't want to I may have to use GBoard.

    • @clivewright7778
      @clivewright7778 9 місяців тому

      ​@@privacyproshopUse futo voice app. It need no internet or server

  • @MrBobWareham
    @MrBobWareham 7 місяців тому

    Can I install Graphene OS on my Samsung s6? Thanks, Bob in the UK.

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  7 місяців тому

      No. GrapheneOS only works on Google Pixel devices.

  • @itsmelampoi
    @itsmelampoi Рік тому

    What about protection or detection with IMSI scanners, the police in the uk call them stingray, is there anyway to stop an IMSI attack, ?

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому

      Faraday bag for sure. Or possibly Airplane mode in GrapheneOS

    • @itsmelampoi
      @itsmelampoi Рік тому

      @@privacyproshop thank you, what about when the phone is in use , ? I use orbot on android and run all my apps through the vpn mode. I used to run nord vpn , but nord only runs downloaded apps through and not system apps, so there are still vulnerabilities. Im Non techy

  • @TLM860
    @TLM860 Рік тому

    Have you tried Calyxos? What is MicroG?

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +1

      I have not tried CalyxOS. Seems fairly similar to GrapheneOS, but supports some Google services through MicroG, which is an open-source implementation of Google Play Services. GrapheneOS supports native play services in a "sandbox" if you need them.

  • @QuikRay
    @QuikRay 11 місяців тому

    For GPS on Graphene, you should tether you old android phone to the Graphene OS phone then start the GPS app on your old phone. You didn't address the case where you are installing Graphene on a pixel phone that already has a phone number...which is what I'm about to do. Wanted to hear what you had to say, but you missed my case completely.😢😮

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  11 місяців тому +1

      I don't understand the purpose of GPS tether, and how it would work, and why.
      Best is to get a new phone, as the old phone hardware is registered with Google and associated with your account.

  • @iamshewhowalksalone820
    @iamshewhowalksalone820 Рік тому

    I just installed Graphene OS, when I reboot, I get the screen saying “this phone will load an alternative operating system” and have the side button. Its the same screen where I changed/unlocked the bootloader or actually installed Grapheme.
    Is this normal?

  • @louishurr393
    @louishurr393 Рік тому

    What do you do with family and friends who still have iPhones when you need to text them and they don’t want to install a privacy texting app like Signal?Do you just cut them off? Or use less secure and less private SMS, losing the security of iMessage?

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому

      Tough choices... You could get Voip.ms service and use that for SMS messaging. Of course, it is still insecure and tracked, but at least it isn't tied to your GrapheneOS phone's location and it's number. Also, limit what you say over SMS as that's pretty much a permanent record. Apple's iMessage is secure, but not privacy friendly. It's worse than using SMS in my opinion.

    • @Tatar_Piano
      @Tatar_Piano Рік тому +1

      Telegram? Whatsapp? Others?

  • @NobodyNothing-c9r
    @NobodyNothing-c9r Рік тому

    It immediately stops working

  • @needsomehike
    @needsomehike Рік тому

    pixel phones come with google's own chips. does graphene os "fix" that...?!

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +3

      To some extent, but you can hide all sorts of nasty stuff in hardware.

    • @needsomehike
      @needsomehike Рік тому

      @@privacyproshop thanks for the reply, much appreciated. so, whats the best "safe" phone? I used sailfish and ubuntu touch before.....didnt like them too much....

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +2

      If you want modern functionality, GrapheneOS is it, but again, who knows if there is something lurking in hardware. PinePhone should be safe, but lacks modern conveniences.

    • @needsomehike
      @needsomehike Рік тому

      @@P2B_JC i have been wondering about graphene os.....became mainstream too quick. is there any voice out there that debates its "privacy" ?!

  • @rojoroj9777
    @rojoroj9777 Рік тому

    Story of video is promotes your merchandise

  • @gazivelija5552
    @gazivelija5552 Рік тому

    You seem angry pops!

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +1

      •`_´•

    • @webbfast
      @webbfast 11 місяців тому

      It's not him he made an AI generated image so no one knows what he really looks like, can't you tell. He may look angry but thats just a giveaway, sort of has no facial expressions either, another giveaway, go watch MKBHD's latest on AI generated videos.
      Seriously though, he does need to hire an influencer to read this for him.

  • @gregrollins4031
    @gregrollins4031 Рік тому

    graphineoxside phone lol

  • @masada369
    @masada369 Рік тому

    What about esim? Will it go from Android

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому

      sorry, not sure what your question is

    • @masada369
      @masada369 Рік тому

      @@privacyproshop i am using esim in pixel 6. So if i install graphene OS. Will it be there or not

    • @privacyproshop
      @privacyproshop  Рік тому +1

      @@masada369 I don't know. I haven't tried it. However, you should be able to reactivate it after you install GrapheneOS based on what I have read. Maybe someone else will know.