Exactly! I buy and grade games I like for myself, they're not for resale or seen as an investment. Example: Was able to secure a physical copy of metroid prime remastered for switch. The copy was flawless so I sent it off to Wata for grading and even paid for the deep badge. This game is basically worthless from an investment prospective, however Metroid Prime was the reason I bought a game cube back in the day so the game itself for me is worth the price to grade and preserve. Its nostalgic nothing more. Great comment!👌🏽
Makes perfect sense in my opinion. Like Beanie Babies, the more collected something is immediately when it releases, the less collectible it is likely to eventually become. The most collectible things are usually the things that nobody thought to collect in the first place.
Exactly, organic supply is key. Nobody considered these items valuable at the time, so they were thrown away. Only decades later do people want to find them again. Wonder what will be an expensive collectible in 30 years? It’s probably in your trash can right now.
@@GetTheGreg I'm a bit angry about the current situation tbh 😅 As you said in the video people are buying anything as long as it's gradable.. We need to see memories in games again and not the chance of earn as much money as possible
@@nothere6991 - Not the same factors at all. What's happening now is akin to the comic book crash in the 90's. Most media wasn't printed anywhere near the level it is now, and there was little of the "artificial scarcity" that has dominated the speculative market.
What about collectors editions? You never touched on those mate. Those didnt exist in the same form they do now and some of them already sell for crazy amounts
I 100% agree with your first point, As someone who collected a full PS3 set and have moved onto the PS4. I have really noticed that finding games in bad condition isn't much of a thing today. Last gen missing manuals damaged covers ect was very common
but all in all you are correct, my dads friend sold his whisky collection when he retird for 230.000 dollars, and you have to buy "expensive whisky" through the years, they are the only ones that climbs in value. for ex one bottle that cost 2800 became 41.000 , 25 years later.
I totally agree. I'm now investing in older sealed games and spending that extra money buying them. I think of it as like, "buy a model for like $50-70, or... buy a vintage for around $200ish and you're basically buying 4 moderns that won't appreciate as much as the vintage"
I started buying a bunch of sealed 3DS games recently but this helped me realized that they probably won’t make me bank in the future BUT I am buying them to have a collection.
If you're buying for collection purposes, don't put too much pressure on the potential future gains. I buy tons of stuff regardless of its potential future outlooks!
@@GetTheGreg haha trust me. The majority of the common man opinion is hostile towards anything other than that mentality, you’re stuck in a vacuum and I’m stuck in a morbius strip of collectors fusing together, sometimes it’s hard to focus and differentiate properly, but I’m trying to maintain a handle on it. You talk about a lot of things that I feel similarly on but would receive insane backlash for mentioning 😅. There’s a mutual envy right there.
You’re bang on about not buying modern collectibles. This reminds me of hockey, baseball and football cards in 1990/91. Those things are just coasters to this day even though there were some awesome rookie and promo cards.
With increasing digital sales i think the market for currently modern games will be great down the road when people who went the digital route realise they would like to have something real/physical from their past to collect. Digital sales are currently over 50% of all sales and growing which makes physical copies more and more rare
And that is a valid argument. But that is a rather "unknown" area of *if* that will be the actual way that demand goes. Couldn't it be just as easily argued that due to the increased digital sales, this generation won't hold the same nostalgic feelings of owning physical that the prior generations do?
@@GetTheGreg It could also be argued that a volcano will erupt blocking out the sun sending us back into another ice age making all of this redundant. Hopefully that doesnt happen. Until it does i will bet on human nature. Human beings become nostalgic for their childhood and im betting many of these current kids will grow up and their pockets will grow with them. When they see a sealed copy of Fortnite (a game that is 99% digital) in 20 years i think that nostalgia might just get the better of them. But ya..who knows. Great videos by the way, i learn a lot watching them.
@@philmc2224 haha oh come on, I didn't think my counter-point was that outrageous to consider😅 It's an assumption being based on a scenario we've never seen before. What is certain, though, is more people are buying and keeping many of these games sealed than ever before in expectation of future gains. It really can play out either way. What I will say though, if you feel confident in your assessment, take your shot on it. Better to go with your own gut and see how it all plays out! Edit: Fortnite is definitely an example of a game that will likely always remain valuable (PS4 version) and become a bit of a grail into the future. Minecraft 360 is already showing that trend.
@@GetTheGreg no you're right, your counter point wasnt outrageous at all..its a totaly valid point of view that i am still concidering. i just have a flair for the dramatic..i meant no offence. Yes its true more and more people are collecting and preserving but i still think its very niche. The vast majority are digital or using game cases and discs as coasters and not even thinking twice about it. All your points have been good ones dont get me wrong..i just really think with digital taking over slowly, the amount of people who do collect and preserve games will be so small in comparison that rarity will be preserved.
It's always hard to gauge sarcasm levels via text haha. But yea, I can't discount your opinion on this! I will definitely be keeping a close eye on trends as the years pass and may yet hop in if I see indications that I like!👀
I do agree with you. I think that there will be some modern era games from now that will have potential collectability and selling for a profit in the future. For the most part, most modern era games will not have as much value because they made many more copies than a lot of distributers did before the 2000s. The more durable type of packaging and having less stuff included with a game nowadays will decrease the value. Most people a long time ago didn't see video games the way people do now. People yapping about types of factory seals, cracks or scratches on the case, partially factory tears, etc. I never thought that a market for this sort of thing was going to exist but it will be hear to stay.
I agree with basically all modern retail games, they're printed in mass and too many will be in premium condition. There's a big caveat with modern, we have a huge amount of limited print companies only supplying a few thousand copies of games. We have not seen that type of supply constraint before. Now will the demand for those games be high in the future? That part is questionable, but the way we're seeing market manipulation with vintage games today, I can 100% seeing it be way worse with limited print games in the future. I can also see these games going up in demand if and when game companies like Nintendo and Sony decide to go all digital.
this is exactly how pokemon is! thanks for all the vids. had a bunch of sealed 3ds games (luckily have dragon quest viii) i bought from clearance racks and started deep diving. Great information appreciate you!
Yea the parallels between modern video games and Pokemon cards are pretty close haha. If you understand one hobby, you can at least have baseline knowledge in the other! And thanks for checking out the channel, guys! I've also seen a bunch of your vids. Always cool to have other content creators watching!👌🙌
Hahah I was checking out some the other day! Pretty sure I sold Gold Mario like 5 years ago for more than its selling for currently😬 I still keep the ones I own sealed too, though. You may have noticed that I added the Banjo Kazooie amiibo to my backdrop haha👌
@@GetTheGreg lol of course! I can't see how they can't go up in value long term. They are beautifully made, official Nintendo product and you can/could use it in a game. They look great on the shelf too!
If I may just add: the good thing about most PS1 games is that as long as the manual, inserts, artwork, etc is in good shape, the jewel cases can be replaced easily since they aren't specific to PS1. Yes, some CDs have exactly the same jewel cases as PS1 games
The fact that HE is saying not too and OTHER PEOPLE think so.... and they are making less hard-copies today due TO DIGITAL! I would COLLECT!!!! This guy is gonna be in regret and wish he had the time machine again.
Yea invest in newer games i try to avoid go newer than wii u stuff I collect wii u games its new stuff But i wasent there When Nintendo 64 launched and barely gamecube i Sadly sold that collection But was nothing special none of the games was sealed.. Im to late to buy old games now everyone know can charge a lot of Money for them and I dont have like 20 grand to spend on one game i aint rich unemployed well thats swedish krona everything cost a lot here and that is not gonna change
Earth Bound SNES & Ocarina of time n64 were modern at one time. Imagine buying them when they first came out, never opening it, and then putting it them in a secure case to protect it. Imagine the worth today…
Yes I think this video is very accurate. Many people mention that a lot of demand for current modern games for future value speculations is inorganic. I think there's a lot more of arbitrage opportunities for even the less popular sealed/cib n64, snes, gameboy games than the modern games.
DVD style cases can get damaged but nothing like cardboard. It's very easy for the artwork to receive depression marks where the case is hollow but a surprising amount of people don't seem to care about this. This is a big pet peeve of mine.
Especially with CIB, I see NO ONE mention cover art condition, even still haha. It's kind of crazy, because I agree, depressions in the art are the big cause for concern with DVD cases
This is a great video! The modern game is def different than the vintage game. There still is opportunity in modern tho. But yes, you’re right, it will start to look more and more like Pokémon cards - for example, we’ll start to see the chunky premiums only on Gem Mint copies … which in vintage are basically non-existent. It’ll be interesting to inspect the pop reports to see how many Gem Mint copies of modern games have already been graded.
I can understand this logic but I remember people telling me the same about the gamecube era and you could buy for ex fire emblem for 5 dollar or skies of arcadia for 5 dollar sealed. which people didnt even pick up then. And now sells for 300-500. Might not sound much, but that paid your "switch" or you can trade those rare sealed with another collector in the future. I think big franchises will always be worth something (people always want the games for a certain franchises) - especially if game X for it sold less. So do I think a sealed Mario Kart 8 deluxe that sold 30 million will be ever worth anything? no. But im sure you can get 2-3x back in 10+ years. And so while I wouldnt invest into that, I can see for ex how a Xenoblade 2 might climb in value in 10-15 years (SEALED) jrpgs from series people are in love with, much like fire emblem. Pokemon? no, it sold 20 million copies on the switch and knowing what pokemon games sealed sell for today? ofc people will have them "saved". I know for ex a guy who traded 14 zelda 64 cartridges which he bought on sales and flea markets here in Sweden and if I remember right 4 diddy kong racing. He traded them all in for a Final Fantasy 6 sealed in 2012. That game is now worth 5000 dollar+ You can always make good trade deals if you think out of the box, even with a lot of "sealed games" in the future, for retro stores etc.
Depends on the publisher or size of the print run. Atlus, some Sega, and Vanillaware titles generally increase in value quite well. Try buying Yakuza Dead Souls or Persona 5 Dancing for MSRP, you can’t.
I do agree with you there. If you're selective and have a good grasp of what you're doing, you can definitely hit some good ones. In those instances of quick doubling or even tripling, I would much rather take the quick profits than holding, though.
@@GetTheGreg yeah, you just have to be smart with what you buy and when you sell. Stalking BrickSeek and buying things when they go on clearance isn’t a half bad idea either.
What I’m getting from this is as soon as video game makes started putting their games in flexible plastic, finding mint condition became too easy. But I will present a counter. We are fast approaching the age of digital only. What impact will that have on physical modern games?
This is the big question a lot of people pose. For some, these current gens may be seen as the last beacon of physical gaming and have unparalleled demand vs some older consoles. We know the supply will be higher on most games across the board just due to public consciousness of collecting/investing, but the demand is hard to predict...
@@GetTheGreg What you say is true. Another issue is video games are more popular than they have ever been. The ps4 outsold the SNES by over double. Heck, the Xbox One outsold SNES and the N64. Means there is a LOT of software out there.
@@GetTheGreg Nooooooo (I say sheepishly), For what it’s worth, I already kinda knew those details. He just reminded me. I’m the same level of dork who has looked at that wiki article many, many times.
@@leeartlee915 it was really interesting for me to see. Like you said, gaming is as popular as it's literally ever been. I didn't realize just how drastic some of the console sales numbers, overall, had grown though!
it all depends what game it is... and how old u are. if u get into collecting games, @ young age. why not collect modern sealed games. besides next consoles would probably be downloaded games only...which by default would make damn near all cd and cartridge based games and consoles very valuable in time. trust me I collect cards as well as video games... history (age) and rarity, of anything u collect is very important
How difficult is it to buy or get a Amazon or Apple stock? And what else can you do with it as holding or selling to someone who will pay the price for it? I don't see any difference to modern games. So even modern games can rise in price very easily if you ask me.
I’ve just saw your grading video about the pros and cons, and this video of course. I’ve been collecting for the last 10 years. I’m a huge fan of the PS4, because that was the first console I bought on day one. I’ve. collected most of the 1st party exclusives, and kept them sealed. I’ve done that for the PS5 exclusives too. You’re right on modern games, but watching the PS3 games blow up in prices makes me think that PS4 games will be important too 10 to 15 years from now. I have a PS4 Nier Automata Limited Edition Steelbook Edition sealed, and I really want to get it graded. I’ve seen it on eBay for $400 and up. I just subbed your channel too.
Appreciate your thoughts, man! PS4 is definitely showing some strong love amongst collectors so it could absolutely see a good boost in the coming years! Sounds like your grabbing some of the games that have a good shot👌
I hear some modern games are not wholly on the disc meaning you have to part download from the server, could that impact the collectibility of modern games as they could pull the plug on future digital stores or support for games?
I generally agree. That's why I collect modern, but don't necessarily invest in it. I think it's fun to run around to different stores and find some sealed games to buy. I have a rule that I never spend of $20 per game, so it's not a terribly expensive hobby. I do expect though, 20 or 25 years from now, to at least be able to get my money back, lol. Or maybe even turn a little bit of a profit. Time will tell.
It used to be that once games had been out for a while, prices were low even for mint condition stuff. You could get fairly rare games for good prices, too. However, maybe that type of scenario no longer exists since video games have become the new baseball card hobby. I would definitely stay away from mass produced stuff, especially with the focus on video games the past couple years. They won't be worthy much if anything.
I thought about buying sealed games but my thing is what if the sealed game u think is factory sealed but was resealed by someone. They know u bought it cuz it was sealed so chances are ur not gonna open it. The game inside could be used or no game at all.
Okay so, about a minute and a half in, you said to comment our opinion. Check. A buddy of mine recently gave me a decent theory on why certain modern games will be worth more. You may cover this, again I’m only a minute and a half in, so yea. But I have a couple modern games I’ll keep sealed because I feel one day they’ll be highly sought after. Long story long, you’re wrong I hate you don’t tell be what to do you’re not my mom. I’m telling my dad. Jk.
It's funny how nintendo games are more expensive because nintendo was cheap as fuck and used cardboard way after other game companies sold games in plastic cases.
How do you feel about the PlayStation Vita? It seems to live on both polarities of collectibility: On the one hand, many games by Atlus and other niche publishers created naturally low print runs. On the other hand, around half the physical library has that artificial scarcity from LRG. One thing I am convinced of is that regardless, Breach and Clear will be worth it in the future if for nothing else than being the start of LRG. Thanks for posting great content!
Hello I just had a question. What’s your opinion on the call of duty black ops 3 juggernog edition.? Do you think it’ll be worth a lot more than it is now in the future? It was $200 retail when it came out. And the mini fridge alone is worth around $500 now. Sealed ones sell for $1000. I feel like it will but then again it’s a reskinned poorly working mini fridge I can’t imagine people buying them $2000-$3000 brand new sealed 10-15 years from now.
Good points. I'm still not sure we will see enough of this happening for it to matter in 5-10 years. If there IS future demand, I think whatever supply exists will be wiped out quickly.
It really depends. Buying new gen sealed games and keeping them sealed is not a great risk if you pay way less than the MSRP. For instance black Friday 2022 breath of the wild was 29.99. Buying an extra copy to keep it sealed for that price makes sense to me. There is no way three years from now a sealed copy of this game will sell for less than this amount. Most of the Wii u sealed games are already up to their new MSRP price...
For sure, I do agree with you there. If you are sourcing the stuff for cheap, it makes it *very* hard to ever "lose". Albeit, with those BOTW you're likely getting 3rd prints, which greatly hinders their potential upside.
I completely agree although I do find myself buying newer sealed games from time to time. I definitely have better luck with the older games but I have had some good luck with new games as well. Another great video man you are so wise in the video game force haha!
Haha oh for sure, it's inevitable not to buy some here and there, take a gamble on a few, whatever! I almost exclusively play modern games myself so im always poking around, seeing what's going on haha. Since you're so in tune with gaming, I'm sure you can spot out worthy titles with decent accuracy! And thanks dude haha🙌
I still think that there will be some value in factory sealed Nintendo Switch games...only because its nintendo...but they wont be worth as the rare nes/super nintendo / n64 games... anyway...great video, as always...
Came from mizkif twitch. Enjoy your videos im new to the collecting world and find it interesting to say the least all the factors that can effect these games. Like the example you made with the wii u. Should be interesting to see what happens a year from now with prices we see now. New sub. Cheers
3ds seems to already be blasting off due to the closure announcements. Hopefully you have a bit of stuff you can also sell into this wave of excitement! Hedge yourself a little bit 😎
In my opinion, the modern games that are worth collecting are the collectors and special editions of certain games. There are some games that have been released for the switch that are already at retro prices.
Don't underestimate how early we are and the effect going digital will have. CIB yeah but sealed first prints for retail is different. The main problem is predicting which game is going to be GOY etc.. so just buy what you like and hold imo. Of course buying NES is probably the better investment
My only problem with this video is that you didn't define "Modern". You mainly compared cardboard collecting to diamond case and DVD case collecting. You even brought up PS1 and Saturn games that have cases that can get cracked and replaced. But that are in the same era as N64. That being said, I completely agree with this when it comes to 7th/8th/9th gen collecting. These generation are saturated with games put out by Limited Run and the likes for intentional low print runs and "collector's editions". Very few games retain or go up in value because of easy of access though digital download, GOTY Editions, and other factors. At the same time, 3/DS collecting is now a huge pain due to GameStop throwing away cases and manuals. It's almost equally as hard to find a CIB 3/DS game as it is a cardboard era game.
Hey! 1:26 is my general guideline for where I consider the modern cutline, and it is moreso due to what I saw regarding hoarding factory sealed games at retail. The "modern collecting" cutline. Yours may differ as there is no hard set line.
@@GetTheGreg My main point is that your video is about Modern, but most of what you talk about is cardboard vs. DVD/Diamond case. It's basically your whole 1st point and a bit of the 2nd. And I get it, people think me having even a scuffed Super Mario RPG box is cool. I just think that it would have been better to focus more on the vast amount of speculation and dilution of the market for more recent consoles. Hell, there's plenty to talk about right there. If you wanted to talk about why you also don't collect games in DVD cases like Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, ect, leave that for another video. So again, I don't disagree with any of it. I just think one doesn't really have anything to do with the other and both could be expanded on to make your point clear. Because I would have liked to know what makes a sub-90 sealed DVD cased game and if it's just cardboard games that are a premium or if it's just Nintendo cardboard games.
What are you’re thoughts on modern games that could potentially require patches/updates/installation/dlc? I know the intent is not to play the sealed games, but do you think it loses some of it’s perceived value considering you’re not actually buying the entire “game” with a lot of modern games. I feel like if I ever collected sealed games that would matter a lot to me.
Well so far, people are seeking original prints of games regardless of if they are the "definitive" editions or not. Since like you said, people aren't really concerned with the actual gameplay given that it will stay sealed. HOWEVER, there definitely could be an angle to collect the "finished" versions of games as well as people may very well care about stuff like that in the coming years in sealed collecting continues to be popular and more people go in different directions with it!
I got 150 switch games (and hope to play them!) most of them sealed. It freaks me out this thing of patches or buying game incomplete. In that aspect I love older consoles like the 16 bit era. Just insert the damned game and play!
Older games will always be king like comics and cards, they're hard to find in good condition and supply was just so much lower than the commercial society we live in. However it's worth considering that the current generations don't necessarily feel a strong connection to NES games etc. They have the nostalgia for newer systems. Xbox 360 and PS3 will be to this generation what playstation and GBA are to me. Everyone starts collecting what they know and what they like. There will always be value in grading high quality video games. I just think that the margins of increase on average will be much lower. You are right when you say that newer console games are easier to find sealed because of plastic cases etc. Another thing to consider now though is there are many companies producing low price runs of games, even though they might not be as sought after, certainly the supply is lower. Gaming preservation is becoming more of a hot topic as of late (especially with PS3 marketplace being shutdown). I think this will also drive interest and collectability of newer generations. You didn't have to worry about Mario 3 being gone one day off of the "internet marketplace". Great video as always Greg!
I agree with everything you said. That really is the opposite side of my argument - or at least a great "unknown" factor. Will the demand for sealed games be as strong by today's youth as it was for generations prior, will they be interested in going backwards to collect the origins of many of these characters, will the organic demand outweigh the inorganic supply from current speculation? Those are all really huge unknowns haha - everything can make their best assumption but it's hard to say with 100% certainty. I am never great at speculating on future demand which is why I try to stick to smaller supply sides haha. At least then I know I only need small market demand in order for the price to sustain itself!
The big scare for this market going forward, is that kids, who have their formative years as gamers today, are (for the most part) just dealing in digital downloads. They simply do not put actual copies of games on the pedestal, like older gamers do. Hell, even I (at the ripe, old age of 37) appreciate the convenience of simply downloading something and having it good to go in a heartbeat. Considering the embrace of more minimalism, that is running strong these days, and a lack of nostalgia for standing before a store shelf and browsing through games, I just cannot see this alleged future run on copies of games, which most of these gamers will have readily available in their digital libraries anyway. Add to that the contrived future availability of factory sealed games and any of the guys, who are leaping into this fad, with shoes and socks, WILL be in for a rude awakening. The candle is burning from both ends.
I disagree... There is a generation of comic book collectors that never read or read comics they just collect because pop culture tells them it's the thing to do and they are a fan of marvel. Imo video game collecting will be engrained into the younger generation as a cool thing to do. There will be dips and 💯 NES cardboard is the way to go I just have always seen the potential for video games to be this generations comics it's just hard to pick the winners and losers which is another reason to just buy early NES if nothing else but for the intellectual property attached to it ie) the first appearance of Link or wario idk Kirby
@@tomcruz7479 But if people just buy for the sake of "number go up" (talking about the price) then they are just chasing the price tag. Which means they have no genuine interest in the underlying item. They just want to get money for free. And if too many people do that, you have a seller market in disguise. Because none of them is really collecting anything. They are buying and holding ... with the intent to sell into the market eventually. And that will always catch up, because the (actual) demand is not there.
I have a question for you. I finally found a copy of Super Mario 3d All Stars for the Nintendo switch. I got it for $70 and it came with the pre order bonus coins sealed. I sent it to get graded and scored a 9.2 A+. I honestly thought it was going to get a lower grade because the game was sealed but had an intent inside of it. So I was happy to get the score. I also didn't pay to get it graded. Do you think its a good grade. And you're honest opinion on getting it graded. I couldn't find this game anywhere new. So I thought it was a good price. But what do you think?. Thanks.
Hey! Paying $70 for it as great but grading it as a damaged copy was not a good choice. 9.2 A+ on this title is a bad grade. Out of 248 graded copies with WATA, 235 of them are better than 9.2 haha. 9.2 A+ makes it one o the worst graded copies that exists haha. I'm just being as honest as I can about it. You could (probably) still get all of your money back if you went to sell it, but that's about it. With Switch games, you really want 9.6 A+ minimum grade.
Honestly I thought it was going to be graded lower. A friend of mine works for GameStop he looked at it and said it looks like a manufacturing defect. So I was expecting an 8.5 A++ because the seal looked crisp. But remember I have a total of $70 into the game. I didn't pay for shipping nore the grading . So at worst I can definitely make a little more then my $70s . But honestly I won't sell it. I liked the simple fact I found it in the wild. I also got a 9.8 A+ Of Lollipop Chainsaw for the Xbox 360 . I know that's not a high value game but it's one of my favorite Xbox 360 games. I also have a copy of NeverDead for the 360 I'm thinking of getting graded . And don't worry I didn't take any offense to your comment lol. Just a little. Lol no I'm kidding. I asked you for a reason I know you've been grading for a while.
I really like to collect games but I understand what your coming from. What am I supposed to do if I basically collected every Nintendo console and video game? Collect special editions or variations of the consoles, start a new video game collection or do I just wait till there next console comes out
Plus I really don’t want to collect different versions of the game just cause they are special edition. I do want to get some third party games that are on every console because I feel like it gives a different experience but I won’t get another version of a game just because it’s a sealed version. I just feel like collecting games I want to collect
Valid point. There are 2 things people should know about modern games. Collecting sealed modern games are totally useless. 1. From 7th gen and up, all games required patches. They need to connect to the internet to upgrade themself. This also require the server needs to be up and running. Let say you go to an area with no internet connection and play the game as is. It's like playing a beta version. 2. Day one purchases with DLC. DLC has expiration date. I bought God of War Ascension Day one with DLC. 1.5 year later, I opened it up and try to installed the code. It's expired and wouldn't registered. If it's me, I would understand from PS2 era and before because those games do not have internet access and come as is with almost less bugs. Modern video games are as buggy as hell without the internet.
@@alex12104 You can collect it but why having a sealed game when it's the same as a used game in function. The tough part of these modern games are the reliability of the internet. Who knows if the psn store, xbox life, Nintendo store, the servers are going to be there 20, 30, 40 years later. Look at the Wii, their store close down. Ps3 almost did too. The likelihood is inevitable.
Really wish there was a noticeable difference and smaller batches for 1st print runs when dealing with modern. Example, Halo with the big orange "Do not sell before date"
Rewatching some of your videos. I can tell you from experience now: Finding good condition multi-disc Xbox 360 cases is a god damn pain. I don‘t know what people are doing with their games, they are all torn to shreds.
Hahah I'll do a Q&A at some point! I workout basically daily though/am conscious about my diet - nothing too serious on the diet side though! Workouts have been stuck at home for months so the routines are isolation work with DBs and body weight stuff.
What about collector's editions of modern video games? I have a lot of collector's edition games for the ps4 that are worth way more than I paid for them already
Oh for sure. In instances like that, I would much rather be a seller than a buyer at current prices. But I'm obviously quite bearish on modern overall, so you may very well have a great grasp of how to navigate it all and be very successful with your collecting!
I bought Dead Space 1 and I own 2 copies.... I was about to buy a third copy but i had to hold myself back. Since the person was asking for $150 lol I told myself I bought 2 copies when it was low.... now I can step back and let it rise up in price.... no reason to over invest on games
@@GetTheGreg let me get your thoughts..... should I buy manhunt 1 for the PS2 with original seal..... its pricey over $200.... I'm hesitant since I only see it for grading... nothing more
Manhunt is a title that I personally don't know a lot about, but I know it has its fair share of fans... It's one of those games for me where I would have to look at all of the places I could spend $200 since I don't have a personal connection/feeling on that specific game
@@GetTheGreg It's a Rockstar game that got banned and did not sell in the states till a year later.... so thats its history and it was too gory for its time. It has its following
I'm with you on everything except the wii u. Sure there are people sitting on them, so they won't be worth as much, but they will still go up pretty well. Especially anything with a cardboard box. Once the amazon resellers have no more new old stock, what they have already went up, will go up a lot more. There's a few other titles in a cases, but mostly the cardboard box games, and boxed amiibo games that'll garner some value. Hell they already are. And why? Because the amazon new old stock resellers have run out of those, and the boxes easily get ruined. But anybody buying sealed ports, or sealed mario karts, are probably not going to get the return they want five years from now. They will go up, sure, but buying the common issued plastic case games is probably going to be low return, instead of scouring for deals on older stuff (for me only the gamecube, even though that market is too hot right now to really touch, is the newest I'll go, no ps2 or xbox, save a very few titles).
But n64 GameCube Xbox sega was once a modern games and I’m pretty sure the collectors back then thought the same maybe 20 years from now the games today will be worth what these games are worth
Well the amount of collectors back then we're like a handful of weirdos who enjoyed owning multiple games. Even sealed collectors barely existed in 2010 - just a small group on enthusiasts for the most part. But for sure, it could play out that way. I just worry collecting is far too mainstream now which will lead to a ton of hoarding in hopes of the last repeating.
For "modern games" would you consider games such as PS4 Godzilla Factory sealed a modern game? Or by modern game do you mean thing such as games you can walk into stores an still purchase to this day with hopes it will rise in value in 10-15 years.
Godzilla PS4 would definitely fit into this category for me. I don't see that game being a strong longer-term hold. Most random ps2/Wii games that were propped up years ago haven't held their steam into the future. Just my personal opinion on a game like Godzilla PS4.
I collect nintendo ds and ps4 games, but not as an investment, just the one i played so i have a nice memory in my shelf. But you are right that the newer games arent good for investment. That should be clear before collecting them.
I don’t know if this is a stupid question but… wouldn’t the modern of today be vintage in 10-20 years time? Modern is just a relative concept isn’t it?
Of course, except the perceptions and collective consciousness of the collecting community is vastly different in this modern, vs the modern of 20+ years ago. The amount of people who have now taken to a "buy 2 - one to open, one to keep sealed" type of mentality is abundantly more widespread than any kind of hoarding that took place years and years ago.
@@GetTheGreg I definitely have to agree on that! To be honest with myself I’m also one of those few that have grown with that mentality. Currently I’ve started selling my opened 3DS games and hunting for sealed ones since I do not play them anymore but still want to be nostalgic and collect a sealed copy. This video helps to set my expectations and remind me to first collect out of passion and interest. The hopes of it gaining interest in the future would just be a bonus for me
That's exactly how I go about it too. I try to make great decision where I can and try not to "lose value" on purchases, but the love for the hobby itself is what keeps me here far more that any potential future gains!👍
I'm really excited to see what Wii U looks like in the next 3-5 years. It seems like it's super popular to collect for or to even do a fullset collection for right now. I'm curious to see if that popularity holds up!
I am brand new to this graded video game scene, so much that my first ever submission of one game is currently at WATA now. My thought process with modern is if I can find a game right as it's on clearance for $20 it less, new, factory sealed with no damage to the seal then I feel like $20+ the grading fee I should be able to at least break even but maybe turn a profit in the future. As I said I am brand new to this graded game collecting so am I wrong in this thought process? I would never purchase a brand new game full price to send it off and get it graded. I am sure to lose money that way.
Or a game that has a limited release so there won't be as many copied readily available. The only game I recently paid basically full price for that I am going to get graded, and these will basically be for my PC unless I decide far in the future to sell are the differe t versions of Grim Fandango Remastered for the different consoles. I know that game has a huge following and should at the very least hold value in sealed condition.
My kids don’t care about things they can hold and they are the future so , they are the people that will be buying in the future, everything is online so you luck
ps4 and ps5 horror titles in limited print with ALL you need to enjoy the game ON DISC would be an exception. Same with RPG's and shooters. Take it from someone who has been in the game 45 years....yes I collected 2600 games as a little boy lol
I currently have 5 Wata graded Wii games, and 2 more at Wata now, Is that modern? I've always speculated the Wii and tried to buy all the "rarer" games in the library for my personal collection, within that was some sealed games that I had graded.
I personally don't consider it when I say modern, but I assume some people would group it into that category. Wii certainly is exploding right now, though!
i collect both ps3 and ps4 games, i only collect rare titles, those that did not sell well with low print numbers even though they were great games, first print controversial titles, or games that were so bad not many were sold and its near difficult to find them sealed
So many "collectors" are flooding the market right now, that it seems like a good time to unload a bunch of this stuff and only keep what I find irreplaceable. Like a gift from mom, or something I have memories of an exact time and place when I played it. To be perfectly honest I rarely find myself going back to play anything retro. If you want to try it out for a time you have the ability to on Switch/PS Premium or even emulation vs forking out a ton of money. Also doesn't include remasters and remakes. While some lose things (like ost music), others gain quality of life. Its hard to say, but I think if you gave a little kid RE2 on PS5 and then asked him to try RE2 on PS1, they would question how anyone would love the PS1 version. They didn't grow up with it, so no nostalgia ties to it. By the time that kid gets older, 10 years from now that game will have an even better version for whatever PS hardware is out at the time. That PS1 version will still be meaningless to them, but different to the older generation. It will also be different as gaming heads towards a digital future. More profitable, and no leaks online early/streaming early. Factor in disc rot and other things, it makes sense to unload things you don't care about.
Great logic and nice video, although I did sold all my old games collection and focused on switch but not for a investment, I genuinely love the switch and surpassed my fav console of all time (snes) Altho it was painful to say goodbye to my beloved collection I love the huge switch library, now I got a very personalized one, built according to my taste refined since my early gaming in the 80s, got around 150 switch games and I love them all, no fillers! (I do despise the high prices in games that are not older than a year damn it! Also fear how I will patch games in 20 years if servers are gone).
Peopl are grading games you can still buy new of the shelf. You buy a new game pay $100 for them to tell you it's new and in good condition and then they put it in $5 plastic box for you. In 20 years time every game will be a 9.4+ graded so these games won't be rare or valuable. The played opened copys will probably be worth more because of the novelty of actually seeing what a real game looks like. I kid you not.
While I understand your points, I'd would like to point out the fact that new Gen consoles/games require internet updates day of release. At some point the servers will be shut down. This is why I collect older games and will happily trade in newer games for credit. WATA collecting is already questionable, but sealed games from then on new Gen is ridiculous. There are collectors and there are investors. No game collector will ever pay investor prices
I'll do a full video rundown on them eventually but essentially they will have inflated sealed supply due to speculation, and I'm not confident they have have huge organic demand in the future!
if everything becomes digital, for a physical being (us), the physical format will be more desirable the demand for physical will go up, this is the next sustainer for the market along with the usual relatable factor Nostalgia is always marketable throughout the ages. Collecting games, pokemon cards becomes more commonplace and a show piece in everyones home creates more desire & demand Just because many people are making the rarer mint 9.6 - 9.8 available, doesn't change human nature. Essentially, game collecting has room to become more common as a conversation starter, or showpiece.
Your points are valid but imo you really can’t compare one franchise with another like for example TLOZ with another that is not that valuable and overtime gets that boost.
I still think those 10 sealed copies of Super Mario 3D All Stars I ran out to get at launch is going to be worth a fortune in the future. I mean Nintendo did say they were only making a _limited_ amount of them.
Hey dude, stumbled on your channel and been enjoying it. How do you feel about big box cardboard variants from modern sets? So like the Pokemon Sword & shield double game variant, or Mario Maker outter cardboard case. Even though these are modern, would you consider buying these or having long term potential?
I do like those much more. Really, anytime there is at least a cardboard outer of some sort, you add in that extra difficulty of obtaining "mint" examples. I still prefer short term flips on those types of items, but the long term potential for sure exists!
These games are going to be like trading cards from the 90s. I have a sealed ff chronicles and anthologies (greatest hits)that I bought 20 years ago and never opened because I never got around to playing them. They are sitting there in great condition with stickers and all. You would think final fantasy games on ps1 would be worth a good chunk nowadays but they have barely gone up in value from when I bought them years ago for $20 a piece. I'm no expert by any means, but seems like a pretty risky business.
Well I'd better get my colour palette out so I can differentiate 8th print and 9th print of breath of the wild since no one takes photos of the UPC but in 20 years I'll be the one laughing with my gold mine of "hidden gems"
haha that's about it. If you want to go after them, just buy the most popular games. They will *most likely* do better than any kind of LRG type game🤷♂️
How is your Option zu „new“ Limited Games? For Example Street Fighter 30 th or Mega Man 30 th (Snes)? They titles are very popular and Games are very rar (World wide only 5.500 of 8.500 Games)? Thank you for Option !
Do you mean the Iam8bit releases? I don't like them at all. Personally, I see them the same way I do reproduction cartridges. I also don't think 5500 and 8500 are small production numbers when we're talking about a manufactured-to-be-rare item. Just my own opinion; they've never appealed to me!
Some of my modern games like Super Mario 3D All-Stars as shown in your thumbnail are digital copies anyway, so I don't have to worry about prices getting higher. I just wished that Nintendo kept the Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary stuff though.
@@GetTheGreg True, but with limited edition games like 3D All-Stars, it's better to get a digital copy that you can keep for yourself since you only have one chance to get it before it's gone forever.
I like to collect games honestly, but I only buy games that I like and I don't see it as a investment but I do it because I love my games
Same
Same here I buy and collect physical after I play them and beat them.
@@hyperfusiongear9050 same :)
Exactly!
I buy and grade games I like for myself, they're not for resale or seen as an investment.
Example: Was able to secure a physical copy of metroid prime remastered for switch.
The copy was flawless so I sent it off to Wata for grading and even paid for the deep badge.
This game is basically worthless from an investment prospective, however Metroid Prime was the reason I bought a game cube back in the day so the game itself for me is worth the price to grade and preserve.
Its nostalgic nothing more.
Great comment!👌🏽
Makes perfect sense in my opinion. Like Beanie Babies, the more collected something is immediately when it releases, the less collectible it is likely to eventually become. The most collectible things are usually the things that nobody thought to collect in the first place.
Exactly
agree
Exactly, organic supply is key. Nobody considered these items valuable at the time, so they were thrown away. Only decades later do people want to find them again. Wonder what will be an expensive collectible in 30 years? It’s probably in your trash can right now.
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A game needs time to increase value imo.. nobody gets emotional by looking at a picture taken 3 days ago
That's a big reason why seeing this modern stuff ALREADY selling for premiums is so worrying to me. That's pure speculation without any organic growth
@@GetTheGreg I'm a bit angry about the current situation tbh 😅 As you said in the video people are buying anything as long as it's gradable.. We need to see memories in games again and not the chance of earn as much money as possible
You say this now.... just like everyone else has did in 90s, 80s 70s, 60s an so on when they thru out everything......
@@nothere6991 - Not the same factors at all. What's happening now is akin to the comic book crash in the 90's. Most media wasn't printed anywhere near the level it is now, and there was little of the "artificial scarcity" that has dominated the speculative market.
Your comment reminds me a the day I saw this video and read your comment, can't help to get a bit emotional about the whole thing.
What about collectors editions? You never touched on those mate. Those didnt exist in the same form they do now and some of them already sell for crazy amounts
I 100% agree with your first point, As someone who collected a full PS3 set and have moved onto the PS4. I have really noticed that finding games in bad condition isn't much of a thing today.
Last gen missing manuals damaged covers ect was very common
Full PS3 set!? You're a mad lad. That's an incredible feat haha.
Thanks man, I took it to the next level and have a full worldwide English language PS3 collection
Agree 110%. Grading didn’t exist during the cardboard era, so everything had to naturally survive the times. Makes sealed items very impressive lol
I mean the cardboard era was pretty much just Nintendo lol. Most other companies were smart enough to have actual cases.
but all in all you are correct, my dads friend sold his whisky collection when he retird for 230.000 dollars, and you have to buy "expensive whisky" through the years, they are the only ones that climbs in value. for ex one bottle that cost 2800 became 41.000 , 25 years later.
I totally agree. I'm now investing in older sealed games and spending that extra money buying them. I think of it as like, "buy a model for like $50-70, or... buy a vintage for around $200ish and you're basically buying 4 moderns that won't appreciate as much as the vintage"
That's basically how I see it to! Flip some modern here and there and cycle it back into vintage!
I started buying a bunch of sealed 3DS games recently but this helped me realized that they probably won’t make me bank in the future BUT I am buying them to have a collection.
If you're buying for collection purposes, don't put too much pressure on the potential future gains. I buy tons of stuff regardless of its potential future outlooks!
Got some news for you now
I have this same conversation with so many people, basically feel exactly the same way.
I envy you because you get to see the "common man" opinion haha. Sometimes I feel like I'm stuck inside of a vacuum with collecting!
@@GetTheGreg haha trust me. The majority of the common man opinion is hostile towards anything other than that mentality, you’re stuck in a vacuum and I’m stuck in a morbius strip of collectors fusing together, sometimes it’s hard to focus and differentiate properly, but I’m trying to maintain a handle on it. You talk about a lot of things that I feel similarly on but would receive insane backlash for mentioning 😅. There’s a mutual envy right there.
You’re bang on about not buying modern collectibles. This reminds me of hockey, baseball and football cards in 1990/91. Those things are just coasters to this day even though there were some awesome rookie and promo cards.
With increasing digital sales i think the market for currently modern games will be great down the road when people who went the digital route realise they would like to have something real/physical from their past to collect. Digital sales are currently over 50% of all sales and growing which makes physical copies more and more rare
And that is a valid argument. But that is a rather "unknown" area of *if* that will be the actual way that demand goes. Couldn't it be just as easily argued that due to the increased digital sales, this generation won't hold the same nostalgic feelings of owning physical that the prior generations do?
@@GetTheGreg It could also be argued that a volcano will erupt blocking out the sun sending us back into another ice age making all of this redundant. Hopefully that doesnt happen. Until it does i will bet on human nature. Human beings become nostalgic for their childhood and im betting many of these current kids will grow up and their pockets will grow with them. When they see a sealed copy of Fortnite (a game that is 99% digital) in 20 years i think that nostalgia might just get the better of them. But ya..who knows. Great videos by the way, i learn a lot watching them.
@@philmc2224 haha oh come on, I didn't think my counter-point was that outrageous to consider😅 It's an assumption being based on a scenario we've never seen before. What is certain, though, is more people are buying and keeping many of these games sealed than ever before in expectation of future gains.
It really can play out either way. What I will say though, if you feel confident in your assessment, take your shot on it. Better to go with your own gut and see how it all plays out!
Edit: Fortnite is definitely an example of a game that will likely always remain valuable (PS4 version) and become a bit of a grail into the future. Minecraft 360 is already showing that trend.
@@GetTheGreg no you're right, your counter point wasnt outrageous at all..its a totaly valid point of view that i am still concidering. i just have a flair for the dramatic..i meant no offence. Yes its true more and more people are collecting and preserving but i still think its very niche. The vast majority are digital or using game cases and discs as coasters and not even thinking twice about it. All your points have been good ones dont get me wrong..i just really think with digital taking over slowly, the amount of people who do collect and preserve games will be so small in comparison that rarity will be preserved.
It's always hard to gauge sarcasm levels via text haha.
But yea, I can't discount your opinion on this! I will definitely be keeping a close eye on trends as the years pass and may yet hop in if I see indications that I like!👀
One thing is for sure, collector's editions are a scam, they go down in price 9 times out of 10, just take too much space.
I do agree with you. I think that there will be some modern era games from now that will have potential collectability and selling for a profit in the future. For the most part, most modern era games will not have as much value because they made many more copies than a lot of distributers did before the 2000s. The more durable type of packaging and having less stuff included with a game nowadays will decrease the value. Most people a long time ago didn't see video games the way people do now. People yapping about types of factory seals, cracks or scratches on the case, partially factory tears, etc. I never thought that a market for this sort of thing was going to exist but it will be hear to stay.
I agree with basically all modern retail games, they're printed in mass and too many will be in premium condition. There's a big caveat with modern, we have a huge amount of limited print companies only supplying a few thousand copies of games. We have not seen that type of supply constraint before. Now will the demand for those games be high in the future? That part is questionable, but the way we're seeing market manipulation with vintage games today, I can 100% seeing it be way worse with limited print games in the future. I can also see these games going up in demand if and when game companies like Nintendo and Sony decide to go all digital.
this is exactly how pokemon is! thanks for all the vids. had a bunch of sealed 3ds games (luckily have dragon quest viii) i bought from clearance racks and started deep diving. Great information appreciate you!
Yea the parallels between modern video games and Pokemon cards are pretty close haha. If you understand one hobby, you can at least have baseline knowledge in the other!
And thanks for checking out the channel, guys! I've also seen a bunch of your vids. Always cool to have other content creators watching!👌🙌
I'm still banking on my glorious sealed amiibos!
Hahah I was checking out some the other day! Pretty sure I sold Gold Mario like 5 years ago for more than its selling for currently😬 I still keep the ones I own sealed too, though. You may have noticed that I added the Banjo Kazooie amiibo to my backdrop haha👌
@@GetTheGreg lol of course! I can't see how they can't go up in value long term. They are beautifully made, official Nintendo product and you can/could use it in a game. They look great on the shelf too!
Not the animal crossing ones lol
If I may just add: the good thing about most PS1 games is that as long as the manual, inserts, artwork, etc is in good shape, the jewel cases can be replaced easily since they aren't specific to PS1. Yes, some CDs have exactly the same jewel cases as PS1 games
Darn, if only I had played the video for 5 seconds longer, I wouldn't have needed to make this comment lol
Absolutely!
The fact that HE is saying not too and OTHER PEOPLE think so.... and they are making less hard-copies today due TO DIGITAL! I would COLLECT!!!! This guy is gonna be in regret and wish he had the time machine again.
Very possible! Honestly, I hope so. Only my opinion on the matter as I was asked quite a bit🤝
Yea invest in newer games i try to avoid go newer than wii u stuff
I collect wii u games its new stuff But i wasent there When Nintendo 64 launched and barely gamecube i Sadly sold that collection But was nothing special none of the games was sealed..
Im to late to buy old games now everyone know can charge a lot of Money for them and I dont have like 20 grand to spend on one game i aint rich unemployed well thats swedish krona everything cost a lot here and that is not gonna change
I was not even a year old When Nintendo 64 launched so i Had no chance to buy neither games or console at retail so like pokemon snap today 16 grand
Wii u games some* has Come bit up in value The zelda stuff or Mario maybe 30% cost 60$ retail sell for maybe 100$-120
What about SRG and LRG?
Logic alone should warm you to not collect modern games as it is now with how hot collecting is
Earth Bound SNES & Ocarina of time n64 were modern at one time. Imagine buying them when they first came out, never opening it, and then putting it them in a secure case to protect it. Imagine the worth today…
Yes I think this video is very accurate. Many people mention that a lot of demand for current modern games for future value speculations is inorganic. I think there's a lot more of arbitrage opportunities for even the less popular sealed/cib n64, snes, gameboy games than the modern games.
DVD style cases can get damaged but nothing like cardboard. It's very easy for the artwork to receive depression marks where the case is hollow but a surprising amount of people don't seem to care about this. This is a big pet peeve of mine.
Especially with CIB, I see NO ONE mention cover art condition, even still haha. It's kind of crazy, because I agree, depressions in the art are the big cause for concern with DVD cases
I agree. The only modern games I've bought sealed is pokemon sun and moon but I got them at walmart for retail
This is a great video!
The modern game is def different than the vintage game.
There still is opportunity in modern tho. But yes, you’re right, it will start to look more and more like Pokémon cards - for example, we’ll start to see the chunky premiums only on Gem Mint copies … which in vintage are basically non-existent. It’ll be interesting to inspect the pop reports to see how many Gem Mint copies of modern games have already been graded.
Excellent points. It seems that in the end collectors will continue to find ways to distinguish their products.
I can understand this logic but I remember people telling me the same about the gamecube era and you could buy for ex fire emblem for 5 dollar or skies of arcadia for 5 dollar sealed. which people didnt even pick up then. And now sells for 300-500. Might not sound much, but that paid your "switch" or you can trade those rare sealed with another collector in the future.
I think big franchises will always be worth something (people always want the games for a certain franchises) - especially if game X for it sold less.
So do I think a sealed Mario Kart 8 deluxe that sold 30 million will be ever worth anything? no. But im sure you can get 2-3x back in 10+ years.
And so while I wouldnt invest into that, I can see for ex how a Xenoblade 2 might climb in value in 10-15 years (SEALED) jrpgs from series people are in love with, much like fire emblem.
Pokemon? no, it sold 20 million copies on the switch and knowing what pokemon games sealed sell for today? ofc people will have them "saved". I know for ex a guy who traded 14 zelda 64 cartridges which he bought on sales and flea markets here in Sweden and if I remember right 4 diddy kong racing. He traded them all in for a Final Fantasy 6 sealed in 2012. That game is now worth 5000 dollar+ You can always make good trade deals if you think out of the box, even with a lot of "sealed games" in the future, for retro stores etc.
Depends on the publisher or size of the print run. Atlus, some Sega, and Vanillaware titles generally increase in value quite well. Try buying Yakuza Dead Souls or Persona 5 Dancing for MSRP, you can’t.
I do agree with you there. If you're selective and have a good grasp of what you're doing, you can definitely hit some good ones.
In those instances of quick doubling or even tripling, I would much rather take the quick profits than holding, though.
@@GetTheGreg yeah, you just have to be smart with what you buy and when you sell. Stalking BrickSeek and buying things when they go on clearance isn’t a half bad idea either.
What I’m getting from this is as soon as video game makes started putting their games in flexible plastic, finding mint condition became too easy. But I will present a counter. We are fast approaching the age of digital only. What impact will that have on physical modern games?
This is the big question a lot of people pose. For some, these current gens may be seen as the last beacon of physical gaming and have unparalleled demand vs some older consoles. We know the supply will be higher on most games across the board just due to public consciousness of collecting/investing, but the demand is hard to predict...
@@GetTheGreg What you say is true. Another issue is video games are more popular than they have ever been. The ps4 outsold the SNES by over double. Heck, the Xbox One outsold SNES and the N64. Means there is a LOT of software out there.
Haha did you recently watch Scott's new video, by chance?👌
@@GetTheGreg Nooooooo (I say sheepishly), For what it’s worth, I already kinda knew those details. He just reminded me. I’m the same level of dork who has looked at that wiki article many, many times.
@@leeartlee915 it was really interesting for me to see. Like you said, gaming is as popular as it's literally ever been. I didn't realize just how drastic some of the console sales numbers, overall, had grown though!
Your right ✅
Now there more places to find and buy video games. Very city has a Walmart or near by
I find that finding WiiU cases that haven’t warped can be a real pain. They bend quite easily.
That's interesting actually. I haven't handled them enough to notice myself
it all depends what game it is... and how old u are. if u get into collecting games, @ young age. why not collect modern sealed games. besides next consoles would probably be downloaded games only...which by default would make damn near all cd and cartridge based games and consoles very valuable in time. trust me I collect cards as well as video games... history (age) and rarity, of anything u collect is very important
How difficult is it to buy or get a Amazon or Apple stock? And what else can you do with it as holding or selling to someone who will pay the price for it? I don't see any difference to modern games. So even modern games can rise in price very easily if you ask me.
I’ve just saw your grading video about the pros and cons, and this video of course. I’ve been collecting for the last 10 years. I’m a huge fan of the PS4, because that was the first console I bought on day one. I’ve. collected most of the 1st party exclusives, and kept them sealed. I’ve done that for the PS5 exclusives too. You’re right on modern games, but watching the PS3 games blow up in prices makes me think that PS4 games will be important too 10 to 15 years from now. I have a PS4 Nier Automata Limited Edition Steelbook Edition sealed, and I really want to get it graded. I’ve seen it on eBay for $400 and up. I just subbed your channel too.
Appreciate your thoughts, man! PS4 is definitely showing some strong love amongst collectors so it could absolutely see a good boost in the coming years! Sounds like your grabbing some of the games that have a good shot👌
I hear some modern games are not wholly on the disc meaning you have to part download from the server, could that impact the collectibility of modern games as they could pull the plug on future digital stores or support for games?
I generally agree. That's why I collect modern, but don't necessarily invest in it. I think it's fun to run around to different stores and find some sealed games to buy. I have a rule that I never spend of $20 per game, so it's not a terribly expensive hobby. I do expect though, 20 or 25 years from now, to at least be able to get my money back, lol. Or maybe even turn a little bit of a profit. Time will tell.
It used to be that once games had been out for a while, prices were low even for mint condition stuff. You could get fairly rare games for good prices, too. However, maybe that type of scenario no longer exists since video games have become the new baseball card hobby.
I would definitely stay away from mass produced stuff, especially with the focus on video games the past couple years. They won't be worthy much if anything.
I thought about buying sealed games but my thing is what if the sealed game u think is factory sealed but was resealed by someone. They know u bought it cuz it was sealed so chances are ur not gonna open it. The game inside could be used or no game at all.
Okay so, about a minute and a half in, you said to comment our opinion. Check. A buddy of mine recently gave me a decent theory on why certain modern games will be worth more. You may cover this, again I’m only a minute and a half in, so yea. But I have a couple modern games I’ll keep sealed because I feel one day they’ll be highly sought after.
Long story long, you’re wrong I hate you don’t tell be what to do you’re not my mom. I’m telling my dad. Jk.
It's funny how nintendo games are more expensive because nintendo was cheap as fuck and used cardboard way after other game companies sold games in plastic cases.
I’m digging your content man. I agree with a lot of your saying and I appreciate the education you are offering to newbies like me
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How do you feel about the PlayStation Vita? It seems to live on both polarities of collectibility: On the one hand, many games by Atlus and other niche publishers created naturally low print runs. On the other hand, around half the physical library has that artificial scarcity from LRG.
One thing I am convinced of is that regardless, Breach and Clear will be worth it in the future if for nothing else than being the start of LRG.
Thanks for posting great content!
His point is kinda already obvious with vita stuff. Most rare games are either just as easy to find sealed as opened and or almost the same price.
Hello I just had a question. What’s your opinion on the call of duty black ops 3 juggernog edition.? Do you think it’ll be worth a lot more than it is now in the future? It was $200 retail when it came out. And the mini fridge alone is worth around $500 now. Sealed ones sell for $1000. I feel like it will but then again it’s a reskinned poorly working mini fridge I can’t imagine people buying them $2000-$3000 brand new sealed 10-15 years from now.
Good points. I'm still not sure we will see enough of this happening for it to matter in 5-10 years. If there IS future demand, I think whatever supply exists will be wiped out quickly.
The sage is dropping that wisdom again!
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It really depends. Buying new gen sealed games and keeping them sealed is not a great risk if you pay way less than the MSRP. For instance black Friday 2022 breath of the wild was 29.99. Buying an extra copy to keep it sealed for that price makes sense to me. There is no way three years from now a sealed copy of this game will sell for less than this amount. Most of the Wii u sealed games are already up to their new MSRP price...
For sure, I do agree with you there. If you are sourcing the stuff for cheap, it makes it *very* hard to ever "lose".
Albeit, with those BOTW you're likely getting 3rd prints, which greatly hinders their potential upside.
I completely agree although I do find myself buying newer sealed games from time to time. I definitely have better luck with the older games but I have had some good luck with new games as well. Another great video man you are so wise in the video game force haha!
Haha oh for sure, it's inevitable not to buy some here and there, take a gamble on a few, whatever! I almost exclusively play modern games myself so im always poking around, seeing what's going on haha.
Since you're so in tune with gaming, I'm sure you can spot out worthy titles with decent accuracy!
And thanks dude haha🙌
It’s always a gamble but if you know enough an educated guess usually won’t hurt you too bad haha! Just have to be choosy and be in the know!
I still think that there will be some value in factory sealed Nintendo Switch games...only because its nintendo...but they wont be worth as the rare nes/super nintendo / n64 games... anyway...great video, as always...
For sure. I don't think they will be junk or anything, just not where I personally want to shoot my shot!
Came from mizkif twitch. Enjoy your videos im new to the collecting world and find it interesting to say the least all the factors that can effect these games. Like the example you made with the wii u. Should be interesting to see what happens a year from now with prices we see now.
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Hey thanks a lot dude, glad you made your way over!
just started watching your account and I am loving it ! Wii U and 3ds is all GAME for me due to the eshop diminishing and low sales (for wii u )
3ds seems to already be blasting off due to the closure announcements. Hopefully you have a bit of stuff you can also sell into this wave of excitement! Hedge yourself a little bit 😎
@@GetTheGreg so hard letting some games go :(
In my opinion, the modern games that are worth collecting are the collectors and special editions of certain games. There are some games that have been released for the switch that are already at retro prices.
Would you recommend people to purchase some of those at their current second-hand prices, or would you only go after them at retail?
Don't underestimate how early we are and the effect going digital will have. CIB yeah but sealed first prints for retail is different. The main problem is predicting which game is going to be GOY etc.. so just buy what you like and hold imo. Of course buying NES is probably the better investment
My only problem with this video is that you didn't define "Modern". You mainly compared cardboard collecting to diamond case and DVD case collecting.
You even brought up PS1 and Saturn games that have cases that can get cracked and replaced. But that are in the same era as N64.
That being said, I completely agree with this when it comes to 7th/8th/9th gen collecting. These generation are saturated with games put out by Limited Run and the likes for intentional low print runs and "collector's editions". Very few games retain or go up in value because of easy of access though digital download, GOTY Editions, and other factors.
At the same time, 3/DS collecting is now a huge pain due to GameStop throwing away cases and manuals. It's almost equally as hard to find a CIB 3/DS game as it is a cardboard era game.
Hey! 1:26 is my general guideline for where I consider the modern cutline, and it is moreso due to what I saw regarding hoarding factory sealed games at retail. The "modern collecting" cutline. Yours may differ as there is no hard set line.
@@GetTheGreg My main point is that your video is about Modern, but most of what you talk about is cardboard vs. DVD/Diamond case.
It's basically your whole 1st point and a bit of the 2nd. And I get it, people think me having even a scuffed Super Mario RPG box is cool.
I just think that it would have been better to focus more on the vast amount of speculation and dilution of the market for more recent consoles. Hell, there's plenty to talk about right there. If you wanted to talk about why you also don't collect games in DVD cases like Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, ect, leave that for another video.
So again, I don't disagree with any of it. I just think one doesn't really have anything to do with the other and both could be expanded on to make your point clear. Because I would have liked to know what makes a sub-90 sealed DVD cased game and if it's just cardboard games that are a premium or if it's just Nintendo cardboard games.
For sure, I hope to expand on the whole "collector consciousness" idea more in the future!
What are you’re thoughts on modern games that could potentially require patches/updates/installation/dlc? I know the intent is not to play the sealed games, but do you think it loses some of it’s perceived value considering you’re not actually buying the entire “game” with a lot of modern games. I feel like if I ever collected sealed games that would matter a lot to me.
Well so far, people are seeking original prints of games regardless of if they are the "definitive" editions or not. Since like you said, people aren't really concerned with the actual gameplay given that it will stay sealed.
HOWEVER, there definitely could be an angle to collect the "finished" versions of games as well as people may very well care about stuff like that in the coming years in sealed collecting continues to be popular and more people go in different directions with it!
I got 150 switch games (and hope to play them!) most of them sealed. It freaks me out this thing of patches or buying game incomplete. In that aspect I love older consoles like the 16 bit era. Just insert the damned game and play!
Older games will always be king like comics and cards, they're hard to find in good condition and supply was just so much lower than the commercial society we live in. However it's worth considering that the current generations don't necessarily feel a strong connection to NES games etc. They have the nostalgia for newer systems. Xbox 360 and PS3 will be to this generation what playstation and GBA are to me. Everyone starts collecting what they know and what they like. There will always be value in grading high quality video games. I just think that the margins of increase on average will be much lower. You are right when you say that newer console games are easier to find sealed because of plastic cases etc. Another thing to consider now though is there are many companies producing low price runs of games, even though they might not be as sought after, certainly the supply is lower. Gaming preservation is becoming more of a hot topic as of late (especially with PS3 marketplace being shutdown). I think this will also drive interest and collectability of newer generations. You didn't have to worry about Mario 3 being gone one day off of the "internet marketplace". Great video as always Greg!
I agree with everything you said. That really is the opposite side of my argument - or at least a great "unknown" factor. Will the demand for sealed games be as strong by today's youth as it was for generations prior, will they be interested in going backwards to collect the origins of many of these characters, will the organic demand outweigh the inorganic supply from current speculation? Those are all really huge unknowns haha - everything can make their best assumption but it's hard to say with 100% certainty.
I am never great at speculating on future demand which is why I try to stick to smaller supply sides haha. At least then I know I only need small market demand in order for the price to sustain itself!
@@GetTheGreg yea the short answer is, who the heck knows!
@@Shnickerman hahah AMEN to that! All I can do is present my argument and hope people make their own decisions for themselves!
The big scare for this market going forward, is that kids, who have their formative years as gamers today, are (for the most part) just dealing in digital downloads. They simply do not put actual copies of games on the pedestal, like older gamers do. Hell, even I (at the ripe, old age of 37) appreciate the convenience of simply downloading something and having it good to go in a heartbeat.
Considering the embrace of more minimalism, that is running strong these days, and a lack of nostalgia for standing before a store shelf and browsing through games, I just cannot see this alleged future run on copies of games, which most of these gamers will have readily available in their digital libraries anyway.
Add to that the contrived future availability of factory sealed games and any of the guys, who are leaping into this fad, with shoes and socks, WILL be in for a rude awakening. The candle is burning from both ends.
I disagree... There is a generation of comic book collectors that never read or read comics they just collect because pop culture tells them it's the thing to do and they are a fan of marvel. Imo video game collecting will be engrained into the younger generation as a cool thing to do.
There will be dips and 💯 NES cardboard is the way to go I just have always seen the potential for video games to be this generations comics it's just hard to pick the winners and losers which is another reason to just buy early NES if nothing else but for the intellectual property attached to it ie) the first appearance of Link or wario idk Kirby
@@tomcruz7479 But if people just buy for the sake of "number go up" (talking about the price) then they are just chasing the price tag. Which means they have no genuine interest in the underlying item. They just want to get money for free. And if too many people do that, you have a seller market in disguise. Because none of them is really collecting anything. They are buying and holding ... with the intent to sell into the market eventually. And that will always catch up, because the (actual) demand is not there.
I have a question for you. I finally found a copy of Super Mario 3d All Stars for the Nintendo switch. I got it for $70 and it came with the pre order bonus coins sealed. I sent it to get graded and scored a 9.2 A+. I honestly thought it was going to get a lower grade because the game was sealed but had an intent inside of it. So I was happy to get the score. I also didn't pay to get it graded. Do you think its a good grade. And you're honest opinion on getting it graded. I couldn't find this game anywhere new. So I thought it was a good price. But what do you think?. Thanks.
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Paying $70 for it as great but grading it as a damaged copy was not a good choice. 9.2 A+ on this title is a bad grade.
Out of 248 graded copies with WATA, 235 of them are better than 9.2 haha. 9.2 A+ makes it one o the worst graded copies that exists haha.
I'm just being as honest as I can about it. You could (probably) still get all of your money back if you went to sell it, but that's about it. With Switch games, you really want 9.6 A+ minimum grade.
Honestly I thought it was going to be graded lower. A friend of mine works for GameStop he looked at it and said it looks like a manufacturing defect. So I was expecting an 8.5 A++ because the seal looked crisp. But remember I have a total of $70 into the game. I didn't pay for shipping nore the grading . So at worst I can definitely make a little more then my $70s . But honestly I won't sell it. I liked the simple fact I found it in the wild. I also got a 9.8 A+ Of Lollipop Chainsaw for the Xbox 360 . I know that's not a high value game but it's one of my favorite Xbox 360 games. I also have a copy of NeverDead for the 360 I'm thinking of getting graded . And don't worry I didn't take any offense to your comment lol. Just a little. Lol no I'm kidding. I asked you for a reason I know you've been grading for a while.
I really like to collect games but I understand what your coming from. What am I supposed to do if I basically collected every Nintendo console and video game? Collect special editions or variations of the consoles, start a new video game collection or do I just wait till there next console comes out
Plus I really don’t want to collect different versions of the game just cause they are special edition. I do want to get some third party games that are on every console because I feel like it gives a different experience but I won’t get another version of a game just because it’s a sealed version. I just feel like collecting games I want to collect
Valid point.
There are 2 things people should know about modern games. Collecting sealed modern games are totally useless.
1. From 7th gen and up, all games required patches. They need to connect to the internet to upgrade themself. This also require the server needs to be up and running. Let say you go to an area with no internet connection and play the game as is. It's like playing a beta version.
2. Day one purchases with DLC. DLC has expiration date. I bought God of War Ascension Day one with DLC. 1.5 year later, I opened it up and try to installed the code. It's expired and wouldn't registered.
If it's me, I would understand from PS2 era and before because those games do not have internet access and come as is with almost less bugs. Modern video games are as buggy as hell without the internet.
Not sure why internet connection matters for the game when people are going to collect it, not play it.
@@alex12104 You can collect it but why having a sealed game when it's the same as a used game in function. The tough part of these modern games are the reliability of the internet. Who knows if the psn store, xbox life, Nintendo store, the servers are going to be there 20, 30, 40 years later. Look at the Wii, their store close down. Ps3 almost did too. The likelihood is inevitable.
I have been grabbing 3ds games got 30 sealed games for around £5s on average, most are worth £20+ already
You are doing it right! Very nice!
@@GetTheGreg thanks for the great uploads btw
Really wish there was a noticeable difference and smaller batches for 1st print runs when dealing with modern. Example, Halo with the big orange "Do not sell before date"
Rewatching some of your videos. I can tell you from experience now: Finding good condition multi-disc Xbox 360 cases is a god damn pain. I don‘t know what people are doing with their games, they are all torn to shreds.
You should post your gym routines/ dieting tips you use!
Hahah I'll do a Q&A at some point! I workout basically daily though/am conscious about my diet - nothing too serious on the diet side though! Workouts have been stuck at home for months so the routines are isolation work with DBs and body weight stuff.
I’m curious what is your opinion about collecting limited run games? Because some are ps4
Hey man, I'll try to do a video soon to fully articulate my thoughts on them!
Oh sick can’t wait
It's funny because of all this I live collecting ps3 ps4 to actually play. Get games in good condition.
What about collector's editions of modern video games? I have a lot of collector's edition games for the ps4 that are worth way more than I paid for them already
Oh for sure. In instances like that, I would much rather be a seller than a buyer at current prices. But I'm obviously quite bearish on modern overall, so you may very well have a great grasp of how to navigate it all and be very successful with your collecting!
you should talk about more comics! i feel that’s a good place for investing
Not at ALL my area of expertise haha, I just try to keep up on many collectible markets to gain a wider appreciation of what's taking place
I bought Dead Space 1 and I own 2 copies....
I was about to buy a third copy but i had to hold myself back. Since the person was asking for $150 lol I told myself I bought 2 copies when it was low.... now I can step back and let it rise up in price.... no reason to over invest on games
I like the way you think👌
@@GetTheGreg let me get your thoughts..... should I buy manhunt 1 for the PS2 with original seal..... its pricey over $200.... I'm hesitant since I only see it for grading... nothing more
Manhunt is a title that I personally don't know a lot about, but I know it has its fair share of fans...
It's one of those games for me where I would have to look at all of the places I could spend $200 since I don't have a personal connection/feeling on that specific game
@@GetTheGreg It's a Rockstar game that got banned and did not sell in the states till a year later.... so thats its history and it was too gory for its time. It has its following
Yea for sure, I just mean it's never been on my radar haha, I'm definitely familiar with the game and it's notorious story!😬 😎
I think the resale will be there for cartridges but not discs because a cartridge you can play straight away
I'm with you on everything except the wii u. Sure there are people sitting on them, so they won't be worth as much, but they will still go up pretty well. Especially anything with a cardboard box. Once the amazon resellers have no more new old stock, what they have already went up, will go up a lot more. There's a few other titles in a cases, but mostly the cardboard box games, and boxed amiibo games that'll garner some value. Hell they already are. And why? Because the amazon new old stock resellers have run out of those, and the boxes easily get ruined. But anybody buying sealed ports, or sealed mario karts, are probably not going to get the return they want five years from now. They will go up, sure, but buying the common issued plastic case games is probably going to be low return, instead of scouring for deals on older stuff (for me only the gamecube, even though that market is too hot right now to really touch, is the newest I'll go, no ps2 or xbox, save a very few titles).
But n64 GameCube Xbox sega was once a modern games and I’m pretty sure the collectors back then thought the same maybe 20 years from now the games today will be worth what these games are worth
Well the amount of collectors back then we're like a handful of weirdos who enjoyed owning multiple games. Even sealed collectors barely existed in 2010 - just a small group on enthusiasts for the most part.
But for sure, it could play out that way. I just worry collecting is far too mainstream now which will lead to a ton of hoarding in hopes of the last repeating.
@@GetTheGreg that’s a very good point!
I wonder what would be the case if vintage games came in plastic covers and modern ones in cardboard/jewel cases.
For "modern games" would you consider games such as PS4 Godzilla Factory sealed a modern game? Or by modern game do you mean thing such as games you can walk into stores an still purchase to this day with hopes it will rise in value in 10-15 years.
Godzilla PS4 would definitely fit into this category for me. I don't see that game being a strong longer-term hold. Most random ps2/Wii games that were propped up years ago haven't held their steam into the future.
Just my personal opinion on a game like Godzilla PS4.
I collect nintendo ds and ps4 games, but not as an investment, just the one i played so i have a nice memory in my shelf. But you are right that the newer games arent good for investment. That should be clear before collecting them.
2y later, games like Super mario 3D Collection is hard to find for anything less than $100+ and we now have the Limited edition Oled
I don’t know if this is a stupid question but… wouldn’t the modern of today be vintage in 10-20 years time? Modern is just a relative concept isn’t it?
Of course, except the perceptions and collective consciousness of the collecting community is vastly different in this modern, vs the modern of 20+ years ago. The amount of people who have now taken to a "buy 2 - one to open, one to keep sealed" type of mentality is abundantly more widespread than any kind of hoarding that took place years and years ago.
@@GetTheGreg I definitely have to agree on that! To be honest with myself I’m also one of those few that have grown with that mentality. Currently I’ve started selling my opened 3DS games and hunting for sealed ones since I do not play them anymore but still want to be nostalgic and collect a sealed copy. This video helps to set my expectations and remind me to first collect out of passion and interest. The hopes of it gaining interest in the future would just be a bonus for me
That's exactly how I go about it too. I try to make great decision where I can and try not to "lose value" on purchases, but the love for the hobby itself is what keeps me here far more that any potential future gains!👍
Good points. The Wii U is an interesting one. I'm personally buying Wii U stuff because it's cheap, and there are some good titles on it.
I'm really excited to see what Wii U looks like in the next 3-5 years. It seems like it's super popular to collect for or to even do a fullset collection for right now. I'm curious to see if that popularity holds up!
I am brand new to this graded video game scene, so much that my first ever submission of one game is currently at WATA now. My thought process with modern is if I can find a game right as it's on clearance for $20 it less, new, factory sealed with no damage to the seal then I feel like $20+ the grading fee I should be able to at least break even but maybe turn a profit in the future. As I said I am brand new to this graded game collecting so am I wrong in this thought process? I would never purchase a brand new game full price to send it off and get it graded. I am sure to lose money that way.
Or a game that has a limited release so there won't be as many copied readily available. The only game I recently paid basically full price for that I am going to get graded, and these will basically be for my PC unless I decide far in the future to sell are the differe t versions of Grim Fandango Remastered for the different consoles. I know that game has a huge following and should at the very least hold value in sealed condition.
Buying them for around $20 or s and assuming you do get high grade, yea, you'll be in a good spot!
My kids don’t care about things they can hold and they are the future so , they are the people that will be buying in the future, everything is online so you luck
ps4 and ps5 horror titles in limited print with ALL you need to enjoy the game ON DISC would be an exception. Same with RPG's and shooters. Take it from someone who has been in the game 45 years....yes I collected 2600 games as a little boy lol
Do you think Limited Run Games sealed will hold value over time?
I currently have 5 Wata graded Wii games, and 2 more at Wata now, Is that modern? I've always speculated the Wii and tried to buy all the "rarer" games in the library for my personal collection, within that was some sealed games that I had graded.
I personally don't consider it when I say modern, but I assume some people would group it into that category.
Wii certainly is exploding right now, though!
i collect both ps3 and ps4 games, i only collect rare titles, those that did not sell well with low print numbers even though they were great games, first print controversial titles, or games that were so bad not many were sold and its near difficult to find them sealed
So many "collectors" are flooding the market right now, that it seems like a good time to unload a bunch of this stuff and only keep what I find irreplaceable. Like a gift from mom, or something I have memories of an exact time and place when I played it. To be perfectly honest I rarely find myself going back to play anything retro. If you want to try it out for a time you have the ability to on Switch/PS Premium or even emulation vs forking out a ton of money. Also doesn't include remasters and remakes. While some lose things (like ost music), others gain quality of life. Its hard to say, but I think if you gave a little kid RE2 on PS5 and then asked him to try RE2 on PS1, they would question how anyone would love the PS1 version. They didn't grow up with it, so no nostalgia ties to it. By the time that kid gets older, 10 years from now that game will have an even better version for whatever PS hardware is out at the time. That PS1 version will still be meaningless to them, but different to the older generation. It will also be different as gaming heads towards a digital future. More profitable, and no leaks online early/streaming early. Factor in disc rot and other things, it makes sense to unload things you don't care about.
Great logic and nice video, although I did sold all my old games collection and focused on switch but not for a investment, I genuinely love the switch and surpassed my fav console of all time (snes) Altho it was painful to say goodbye to my beloved collection I love the huge switch library, now I got a very personalized one, built according to my taste refined since my early gaming in the 80s, got around 150 switch games and I love them all, no fillers! (I do despise the high prices in games that are not older than a year damn it! Also fear how I will patch games in 20 years if servers are gone).
Was really hoping you'd make this video! Love it Greg :-)
haha I had too many messages about it to simply ignore!😅
@@GetTheGreg I bet and you nailed exactly how I feel in this video :-)
They will go up if you buy the right things and get at discounts
I brought five Hades sealed on PS4 for £3 each
Peopl are grading games you can still buy new of the shelf. You buy a new game pay $100 for them to tell you it's new and in good condition and then they put it in $5 plastic box for you. In 20 years time every game will be a 9.4+ graded so these games won't be rare or valuable. The played opened copys will probably be worth more because of the novelty of actually seeing what a real game looks like. I kid you not.
While I understand your points, I'd would like to point out the fact that new Gen consoles/games require internet updates day of release. At some point the servers will be shut down. This is why I collect older games and will happily trade in newer games for credit. WATA collecting is already questionable, but sealed games from then on new Gen is ridiculous. There are collectors and there are investors. No game collector will ever pay investor prices
Great video! How do you feel about Limit Run Games? It seems a lot of people are speculating on all their titles.
I'll do a full video rundown on them eventually but essentially they will have inflated sealed supply due to speculation, and I'm not confident they have have huge organic demand in the future!
if everything becomes digital, for a physical being (us), the physical format will be more desirable
the demand for physical will go up, this is the next sustainer for the market along with the usual relatable factor
Nostalgia is always marketable throughout the ages.
Collecting games, pokemon cards becomes more commonplace and a show piece in everyones home creates more desire & demand
Just because many people are making the rarer mint 9.6 - 9.8 available, doesn't change human nature.
Essentially, game collecting has room to become more common as a conversation starter, or showpiece.
Your points are valid but imo you really can’t compare one franchise with another like for example TLOZ with another that is not that valuable and overtime gets that boost.
I still think those 10 sealed copies of Super Mario 3D All Stars I ran out to get at launch is going to be worth a fortune in the future. I mean Nintendo did say they were only making a _limited_ amount of them.
Hey dude, stumbled on your channel and been enjoying it.
How do you feel about big box cardboard variants from modern sets? So like the Pokemon Sword & shield double game variant, or Mario Maker outter cardboard case. Even though these are modern, would you consider buying these or having long term potential?
I do like those much more. Really, anytime there is at least a cardboard outer of some sort, you add in that extra difficulty of obtaining "mint" examples. I still prefer short term flips on those types of items, but the long term potential for sure exists!
These games are going to be like trading cards from the 90s. I have a sealed ff chronicles and anthologies (greatest hits)that I bought 20 years ago and never opened because I never got around to playing them. They are sitting there in great condition with stickers and all. You would think final fantasy games on ps1 would be worth a good chunk nowadays but they have barely gone up in value from when I bought them years ago for $20 a piece. I'm no expert by any means, but seems like a pretty risky business.
Well I'd better get my colour palette out so I can differentiate 8th print and 9th print of breath of the wild since no one takes photos of the UPC but in 20 years I'll be the one laughing with my gold mine of "hidden gems"
I like the way you think
haha that's about it. If you want to go after them, just buy the most popular games. They will *most likely* do better than any kind of LRG type game🤷♂️
How is your Option zu „new“ Limited Games? For Example Street Fighter 30 th or Mega Man 30 th (Snes)? They titles are very popular and Games are very rar (World wide only 5.500 of 8.500 Games)? Thank you for Option !
Do you mean the Iam8bit releases? I don't like them at all.
Personally, I see them the same way I do reproduction cartridges. I also don't think 5500 and 8500 are small production numbers when we're talking about a manufactured-to-be-rare item.
Just my own opinion; they've never appealed to me!
Some of my modern games like Super Mario 3D All-Stars as shown in your thumbnail are digital copies anyway, so I don't have to worry about prices getting higher. I just wished that Nintendo kept the Super Mario Bros. 35th Anniversary stuff though.
I always try not to buy digital whenever possible. I like to have the "option" to sell the game after I play it and recoup some of the money!😎
@@GetTheGreg True, but with limited edition games like 3D All-Stars, it's better to get a digital copy that you can keep for yourself since you only have one chance to get it before it's gone forever.