I'm with you Cliff, this mill should be preserved. It is a beautiful stone historical building. I love old buildings and historical places. It is a part of our heritage. Love your videos!
That's a cool building with the water in one side for the wheel. When I was a kid I cut the one farmers grass and in his garage he had panels covering a hole in the floor. Under those was an underground stream/river with a STRONG current. It was really refreshing to dip your feet into but I definitely would not try going further in. That's how fast that water was moving.
those round wheels was for a belt drive systems inside the mill probably multiple wheels for grinding usually different stages of grinding ruff to fines . hope this helps .
Beautiful building left to deteriorate. Hope the new owner renovates it pretty soon. You go into some quite dangerous places on your own so I hope you let someone know where you are going.
You really do find some historical stuff and its so awesome! It brings so much awareness and enlightens ones imagination as to how the places were/looked like before and how it ended up how it is now. Thanks for always showing us these great adventures that you go on and finding some of the most incredible places.
Hi Cliff, I totally agree with you, it is their responsibility to at least see it's not going to fall down with the next strong wind. These types of things really annoy me, I am a member of a UK organisation called "The National Trust" and they buy old historic places and restore them as much as they can be restored and regularly maintain them. They also open these places up to the public, they are a great organisation actually as they also own beaches and woodland areas, they even organise beach cleans where the general public help them to clean the beaches of rubbish. Such a gorgeous old house, I really hope the new owners try and save it. Thanks for sharing. x
I definitely share your concern about preserving historical heritage. I realize it costs money to tear it down but it might cost more to repair and maintain it. Although if they would they could make it into a museum and recoup the cost.
Article 1, Section 27 of the Pennsylvania Constitution reads: "The people have a right to clean air, pure water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic, historic, and esthetic values of the environment. Pennsylvania's public natural resources are the common property of all the people, including generations yet to come." This was approved by a statewide referendum and support for it was 4 to 1. We need to remind our representatives of our rights.
I rant along with you, Cliff!!! It makes my blood boil to see these historic places left to rot. Thanks for sharing! What a gem of a park this could become, especially with its.proximity to the Horseshoe Trail.
Amazing that this is still standing. The construction looks like native stone, cut and fitted - maybe there was no brick works in the area when it was built? At first I thought the soil was clay with a lot of iron in it, but realized the red color was probably rust from those iron gears and fittings. Thanks for sharing!
I think it is part of a plan to disengage people from history and our roots...i know it sounds kinda negative but sometimes you have to wonder. Beautiful building and grounds.
That is an ingenious system built by industrious men. I grew up in the Lehigh valley. We had some amazing stone work in that area. Some beautiful churches built by German stone masons. Nice vid
great video it was fascinating to see the inner workings of the mill i totally agree with you that historic buildings/sites should be maintained it's history!!!
Great Video WW! So many places are gone or torn down. Seems that the Game Comm. is more interested in collecting money than preserving. This mill should be preserved as so many are gone. Rhoyers Mill near Strasburg had a fire a number of years ago. They still milled different grains and I used to buy their stone ground flours, which were delicious. It was tasting history. I almost bought a mill years ago to restore but all fell through. There are the remains of one a mile from me that was built in 1767. My Grandfather when a boy remembered when they would save and dry their best sweet corn and take it to the mill for their winters supply of corn meal. Unfortunately the mill burned and gutted the building. From there it has been falling down stone by stone. But at least a few walls still stand. There was also a bone mill near by but all you find from that are a few bricks that wash down the creek where it was located. They'd grind bones for fertilizer. My wife is from Europe where they still have building from over 800 years. Of course some have been torn down but people still live in some and some shops are still used as such after centuries. Where the Lancaster court house now stands, the old part from the 1850s, there stood one of the finest examples of Georgian Archatecture. It was even known in London as a fine example. Raised paneled wood working, beautiful stair case and so much more. It seems I've seen many barns and old farm houses being torn down and replaced with building that will never stand the test of time. Meanwhile, acres and acres of fine farm land are being developed. Thus it is so important to preserve what is left for future generations. Indeed, if a building is on your property, a historical building no less, it should be preserved. I don't care what the mission is. Preserving our heritage wether it be American or Native should be done regardless. So Thanks Kindly and I'm delighted that someone will preserve this beautiful stone mill. I know there is a lot of work to do there but even if they can fix the roof and preserve the foundation this would help to preserve and other work done later. The Historic Haldeman Mansion near Baimbridge was nearly destroyed but the community stopped it. Still much to do there but it is weather tight for now. Happy Hiking and Thanks Again! DaveyJO
I really enjoyed seeing this old mill. American history is my passion and I love these structures. I just found ur channel and subscribed. I look forward to the next video. Well done sir b
The two large wheels inside he mill whose name you didn't know: Those are the millstones! The lower stone is the fixed stone and the upper stone is the runner stone. The whole purpose of the mill was the get the runner stone turning in order to crush the grist against the fixed stone.
My 6th ggrandfather owned a grist mill in Pennsylvania and it and his 2 story rock home, luckily, was saved by the historical society. It is called The Rabb House and is on the internet. I feel the same way....we need to preserve our history and this is a shame that the game & fish dept. won't let the historical society save this amazing site. Thank you for sharing! Love our history.
You are absolutely right to take on the Game Commission for its hands-off policy on the building. I hope the property ends up in the hands of a non-profit which will restore and maintain it. History matters.
I'm on that soapbox with you. I'm makes me sick that so many historic house med in this town, that I live in, have been torn down....replaced with parking lots.
Unfortunately that's how it is this days no body cares and those who suffers the most are our future generations to come. Thanks for sharing your concerns and hopefully someone will wake up and do something about it.
Me and a buddy were crawling in a crawl space similiar to that on our stomachs and we smelled a really bad smell but kept going. I put my flashlight and saw two eyes it was a mummified cat (its Arizona) I thought that was it. A few seconds later I hear him screaming well he had crawled face first through a bloated decomposing dog. It was horrible he had goo and slime all over his body. There was no water no hose it was terrible
Cliff, I agree with you 100% that is a incredible building ,and for it's age it in pretty good shape considering .Your correct in saying the blank commission can just joint venture with historical society and restore the many great quality built structures in the state rather than let them decay .I'm sure historical society's can get up money and volunteers to restore buildings maybe even businesses like 84 lumber , Lowe's ,or Home Depot would donate materials who knows, but I agree with you . Thank you for sharing this incredible building it was awesome . Joe M.
Great video...I respect your views on such Historic places and agree also they should be taken care off not let go and be left to rot. It's a shame how many places are being left sat like this was. And like you said they would rather spend money to destroy it than to keep it up, what a backwards world we live in...
I FULLY AGREE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, WHY DESTROY IF IT CAN BE MAINTAINED FOR HISTORY.SOMEONE SHOULD PLUG THOSE HOLES AS ANY ANIMAL CAN CRAWL IN THERE AND CAN'T FIND THERE WAY OUT. EVEN IF THEY PLUGED IT WITH WOOD. YES THAT HAS BEAUTIFUL SONEWORK. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A HOUSE LIKE THAT.
Wonder how much something like that would go for on open market. Take a lot of work, but it looks like it could be restored. Make a nice single family residence.
I'd love if you could get that skull identified. I was curious so hit up Google, did all the obvious ones, cat, dog, etc, then looked up jaguar and it's oddly similar! I think it's definitely some sort of big cat. Look at those upper fangs.
All of our ‘protection’ organizations need to be shook up and see beyond their tight boundaries. Sad that this doesn’t happen. Too bad someone can’t declare it an important part of the local history and give the owners a chance to restore or it be given to a group who will. Just my opinion. Thanks for bringing these problems to light.
New subscriber here my good sir, love all your vids. Huge history nerd hear love seeing Mother Nature is such a beautiful place makes you wonder who had the imagination to create all this magical surrounding us, just a few Hills or hikes away waiting to be discovered!
So close to where I grew up Mt Wilson I know exactly where this there is a very old house close to the twin kiss if it's still there on the right does it go with the mill same stone I believe?
Please be careful sir, I appreciate your video, and the possible danger you might be in. This takes a LOT of guts folks. Thank you..cat skull? Glad you got out safely.
While it is a shame to see things like this fall into disrepair, the PGC's mission is not historical preservation. All too often there are restrictions on what entities can and cannot do for various reasons. Some of these are often political as well as what funds allocated to them are strictly earmarked. (Federal excise taxes for example.) Many of the places you visit are lands preserved by the PGC and cannot be touched, in most cases, accordingly.
@@mrentremattor5772 Unless you are in Baltimore city or perhaps New York, I certainly hope there are no rats that big. Lol But then again at, if in fact you are an exterminator, I will defer to your recognition. Lol
Those are "flywheels" on that vertical shaft going up. They help maintain constant momentum. We used them on gas engines in the oilfield. The Fairbanks-Morse 739 and 503 had two massive flywheels. The Ajax 8/12 x 10 had one as did the Continental Emsco C- 96.All were single cylinder gas engines replace by electric motors in the 80's. I saw a junked and deteriorating Cooper- Bessemer. It was huge! The biggest single cylinder engine that I think was ever used!
I'm with you Cliff, this mill should be preserved. It is a beautiful stone historical building. I love old buildings and historical places. It is a part of our heritage. Love your videos!
That's a cool building with the water in one side for the wheel. When I was a kid I cut the one farmers grass and in his garage he had panels covering a hole in the floor. Under those was an underground stream/river with a STRONG current. It was really refreshing to dip your feet into but I definitely would not try going further in. That's how fast that water was moving.
those round wheels was for a belt drive systems inside the mill probably multiple wheels for grinding usually different stages of grinding ruff to fines . hope this helps .
Beautiful building left to deteriorate. Hope the new owner renovates it pretty soon. You go into some quite dangerous places on your own so I hope you let someone know where you are going.
Absolutely preserve and maintain our history and historical artifacts!!!
It would be an awesome museum. That green grass and trees, the birds singing and lovely stonework. It's lovely. TFS ❣️👍🏾
The 45 people who disliked the video probably work for he game commission lol...
I really enjoy all Cliff's videos. He is very interesting.
Or are Irish from the 19century who don't like Ulster-Scots from the 18century,Pathetic.
Its getting hot out. About time we head back inside some abandoned mines.
It definitely should be kept and restored!
USE FOUND BONES?? TOLD VINNIE TO BURY HIM DEEP, NEXT TIME MORE LIME😎🔫
Hoping for a happy ending on this building. Thank you for this video.
You really do find some historical stuff and its so awesome! It brings so much awareness and enlightens ones imagination as to how the places were/looked like before and how it ended up how it is now. Thanks for always showing us these great adventures that you go on and finding some of the most incredible places.
Great place. I hope it is preserved. The skull is a raccoon. Some of the teeth are worn.
Very cool explore! I love how old it is. You'll have to show us your skull collection.
Hi Cliff, I totally agree with you, it is their responsibility to at least see it's not going to fall down with the next strong wind. These types of things really annoy me, I am a member of a UK organisation called "The National Trust" and they buy old historic places and restore them as much as they can be restored and regularly maintain them. They also open these places up to the public, they are a great organisation actually as they also own beaches and woodland areas, they even organise beach cleans where the general public help them to clean the beaches of rubbish. Such a gorgeous old house, I really hope the new owners try and save it. Thanks for sharing. x
I definitely share your concern about preserving historical heritage. I realize it costs money to tear it down but it might cost more to repair and maintain it. Although if they would they could make it into a museum and recoup the cost.
Great building. You said bones I saw bones I'm happy.
I agree they should turn it over to people who will take care of it.🌹
Once you lose the roof , you lose the building.
Thank you for your work.
Yes!! Spend the money to preserve and maintain history!!! Agreed! Thanks for sharing.
Excellent documentation of a historical 1793 mill building, Thank You
Article 1, Section 27 of the Pennsylvania Constitution reads: "The people have a right to clean air, pure water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic, historic, and esthetic values of the environment. Pennsylvania's public natural resources are the common property of all the people, including generations yet to come." This was approved by a statewide referendum and support for it was 4 to 1.
We need to remind our representatives of our rights.
This Building is very special,preserve it.
I just imagine im a fly on your shoulder when you visit some of these places simply amazing the places you visit bro thank you👍👍😊
thanks👍
Nice post. I was eating when U showed the dead cat. Glad I gut a good stomach ☺
I rant along with you, Cliff!!! It makes my blood boil to see these historic places left to rot. Thanks for sharing! What a gem of a park this could become, especially with its.proximity to the Horseshoe Trail.
Fantastic video I really enjoy your informative narration and agree that it should be maintained Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
Amazing that this is still standing. The construction looks like native stone, cut and fitted - maybe there was no brick works in the area when it was built? At first I thought the soil was clay with a lot of iron in it, but realized the red color was probably rust from those iron gears and fittings. Thanks for sharing!
Man that is a cool old building. Great vid.
Totally agree with you, well said!
I think it is part of a plan to disengage people from history and our roots...i know it sounds kinda negative but sometimes you have to wonder. Beautiful building and grounds.
I love me some old mills!! Thay are Amazing!!
That is an ingenious system built by industrious men. I grew up in the Lehigh valley. We had some amazing stone work in that area. Some beautiful churches built by German stone masons. Nice vid
They should be made to maintain the building. Theyre using it!!! Very nice building and history.
great video it was fascinating to see the inner workings of the mill i totally agree with you that historic buildings/sites should be maintained it's history!!!
It's nice to see historic buildings be restored unfortunately where I live they knock them down which is sad to see them go
It needs to be preserved! It’s part of Pennsylvania history. Hope they can save it.
Great Video WW! So many places are gone or torn down. Seems that the Game Comm. is more interested in collecting money than preserving. This mill should be preserved as so many are gone. Rhoyers Mill near Strasburg had a fire a number of years ago. They still milled different grains and I used to buy their stone ground flours, which were delicious. It was tasting history. I almost bought a mill years ago to restore but all fell through. There are the remains of one a mile from me that was built in 1767. My Grandfather when a boy remembered when they would save and dry their best sweet corn and take it to the mill for their winters supply of corn meal. Unfortunately the mill burned and gutted the building. From there it has been falling down stone by stone. But at least a few walls still stand. There was also a bone mill near by but all you find from that are a few bricks that wash down the creek where it was located. They'd grind bones for fertilizer. My wife is from Europe where they still have building from over 800 years. Of course some have been torn down but people still live in some and some shops are still used as such after centuries. Where the Lancaster court house now stands, the old part from the 1850s, there stood one of the finest examples of Georgian Archatecture. It was even known in London as a fine example. Raised paneled wood working, beautiful stair case and so much more. It seems I've seen many barns and old farm houses being torn down and replaced with building that will never stand the test of time. Meanwhile, acres and acres of fine farm land are being developed. Thus it is so important to preserve what is left for future generations. Indeed, if a building is on your property, a historical building no less, it should be preserved. I don't care what the mission is. Preserving our heritage wether it be American or Native should be done regardless. So Thanks Kindly and I'm delighted that someone will preserve this beautiful stone mill. I know there is a lot of work to do there but even if they can fix the roof and preserve the foundation this would help to preserve and other work done later. The Historic Haldeman Mansion near Baimbridge was nearly destroyed but the community stopped it. Still much to do there but it is weather tight for now. Happy Hiking and Thanks Again! DaveyJO
The game commission only cares about fines and attracting out of state hunters
I really enjoyed seeing this old mill. American history is my passion and I love these structures. I just found ur channel and subscribed. I look forward to the next video. Well done sir b
The two large wheels inside he mill whose name you didn't know: Those are the millstones! The lower stone is the fixed stone and the upper stone is the runner stone. The whole purpose of the mill was the get the runner stone turning in order to crush the grist against the fixed stone.
Thank you so much loved that
My 6th ggrandfather owned a grist mill in Pennsylvania and it and his 2 story rock home, luckily, was saved by the historical society. It is called The Rabb House and is on the internet. I feel the same way....we need to preserve our history and this is a shame that the game & fish dept. won't let the historical society save this amazing site. Thank you for sharing! Love our history.
we don't knock over statues and erase history either.
Hopefully when you continue with the Horseshoe Trail series you will have a chance to check on the mill
That needs saved. And looks in pretty good condition. But on the cusp of disaster.
Those three circular discs that you werent sure what they were... i believe they were the actual grist wheels that grind the grain..
Nice building.
Interesting explore
You are absolutely right to take on the Game Commission for its hands-off policy on the building. I hope the property ends up in the hands of a non-profit which will restore and maintain it. History matters.
it looks like if that building isn't restored within the next 10 to 15 years that building will be collapsed by that time
Michael Storm a lot of these mills here that havent been maintained since the late 1800’s still have their stone standing.
Nice ! I see your at 12k subs now
I'm on that soapbox with you. I'm makes me sick that so many historic house med in this town, that I live in, have been torn down....replaced with parking lots.
Interesting building!! Thanks for the explore cliff.
Unfortunately that's how it is this days no body cares and those who suffers the most are our future generations to come. Thanks for sharing your concerns and hopefully someone will wake up and do something about it.
Me and a buddy were crawling in a crawl space similiar to that on our stomachs and we smelled a really bad smell but kept going. I put my flashlight and saw two eyes it was a mummified cat (its Arizona) I thought that was it. A few seconds later I hear him screaming well he had crawled face first through a bloated decomposing dog. It was horrible he had goo and slime all over his body. There was no water no hose it was terrible
Cool Place
Cliff, I agree with you 100% that is a incredible building ,and for it's age it in pretty good shape considering .Your correct in saying the blank commission can just joint venture with historical society and restore the many great quality built structures in the state rather than let them decay .I'm sure historical society's can get up money and volunteers to restore buildings maybe even businesses like 84 lumber , Lowe's ,or Home Depot would donate materials who knows, but I agree with you . Thank you for sharing this incredible building it was awesome . Joe M.
Great video...I respect your views on such Historic places and agree also they should be taken care off not let go and be left to rot. It's a shame how many places are being left sat like this was. And like you said they would rather spend money to destroy it than to keep it up, what a backwards world we live in...
I FULLY AGREE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, WHY DESTROY IF IT CAN BE MAINTAINED FOR HISTORY.SOMEONE SHOULD PLUG THOSE HOLES AS ANY ANIMAL CAN CRAWL IN THERE AND CAN'T FIND THERE WAY OUT. EVEN IF THEY PLUGED IT WITH WOOD. YES THAT HAS BEAUTIFUL SONEWORK. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A HOUSE LIKE THAT.
Good video. I'd like to know what is on the upper floors.
We like your rants. Just so ya know.
Wonder how much something like that would go for on open market. Take a lot of work, but it looks like it could be restored. Make a nice single family residence.
Hopefully that building gets restored, at least to being safer...
Cool
I'd love if you could get that skull identified. I was curious so hit up Google, did all the obvious ones, cat, dog, etc, then looked up jaguar and it's oddly similar! I think it's definitely some sort of big cat. Look at those upper fangs.
I enjoy all your videos
If I ever get over to your neck of the woods I might check some of these places out.
Any information on the condition of this beautiful gem?
All of our ‘protection’ organizations need to be shook up and see beyond their tight boundaries. Sad that this doesn’t happen. Too bad someone can’t declare it an important part of the local history and give the owners a chance to restore or it be given to a group who will. Just my opinion. Thanks for bringing these problems to light.
You said this is in Colebrook? Where at? I'd love to take a few pictures of it!
right along route 241
New subscriber here my good sir, love all your vids. Huge history nerd hear love seeing Mother Nature is such a beautiful place makes you wonder who had the imagination to create all this magical surrounding us, just a few Hills or hikes away waiting to be discovered!
That's for this video.Penndot should put some money into saving Pa history,living in the northern tier,they don't spend money on the roads
I wonder what were you feeling in that place sadness happiness or what
Please?
dome aboveus obviously he felt security since this makes him money. Don't you feel secure when you snuggle up to a bag of dead Presidents?
@@firebreathinggarage2117 :))
@@firebreathinggarage2117 don't think he's rolling in dough. he's a teacher and they are underrated across the board.
So close to where I grew up Mt Wilson I know exactly where this there is a very old house close to the twin kiss if it's still there on the right does it go with the mill same stone I believe?
Bones found inside....excuse me for chuckling.
Cat I think ... Man this game commission sucks ..for sure cool old building take care brother
Please be careful sir, I appreciate your video, and the possible danger you might be in. This takes a LOT of guts folks. Thank you..cat skull? Glad you got out safely.
Cliff agree completely--rant on brother!!
That building is an American treasure. Maintain it or forfeit it to someone who will
Mudflood building
What kind of mill was that? A flour mill? I love old buildings.
Grist mill...I think
@@thewanderingwoodsman7227 Thanks. I guess that could be a flour mill, corn mill, or cereal mill.
Colebrook near Mt. Gretna?
Did you say the place was haunted? Just asking. Have a great day everyone.
Maintain our heritage !
They should restore the wheel
Really liking your channel and it’s content. It would be better if you replied to a few of our comments however.
While it is a shame to see things like this fall into disrepair, the PGC's mission is not historical preservation. All too often there are restrictions on what entities can and cannot do for various reasons. Some of these are often political as well as what funds allocated to them are strictly earmarked. (Federal excise taxes for example.) Many of the places you visit are lands preserved by the PGC and cannot be touched, in most cases, accordingly.
Agreed. Tied hands can't do much good. Untie them, then we'll see what they're all about.
Coleman mill ? Not sure you ever said it ...?
Where is this building? Is it legal to go in it? lol I collect animal bones I wanna see if theyre still there
Looks like a frankenchrist skull to me.
I think the skull looks too big to be a cat. Fox maybe?
Ratt.
@@mrentremattor5772 Unless you are in Baltimore city or perhaps New York, I certainly hope there are no rats that big. Lol
But then again at, if in fact you are an exterminator, I will defer to your recognition. Lol
A few miles from my house
Be careful dude or before you know it you'll be a character on South Park.
P. S. I do sympathize with how you feel about historic sites.
I wish you would be more careful . OK , so its looking good now . And it is interesting . Thank you .
Amen! Be careful so we always have a cliff to bless us with great Vids and share his concerns that are NOT rants bro.
Those are "flywheels" on that vertical shaft going up. They help maintain constant momentum. We used them on gas engines in the oilfield. The Fairbanks-Morse 739 and 503 had two massive flywheels. The Ajax 8/12 x 10 had one as did the Continental Emsco C- 96.All were single cylinder gas engines replace by electric motors in the 80's. I saw a junked and deteriorating Cooper- Bessemer. It was huge! The biggest single cylinder engine that I think was ever used!
You l👀k like Brett Gelman!! 😃😃😃
Brill video well done xx
Losing a building like this is losing history.
Evp captured when youre checking out the dead animal. 6:08 min mark
You say cubey hole. Us hicks say coobey hole. Some say creak, we say crick.
Where is this located?