In Brazil people hated Donk because he thought Furia was going to be 0/3 and they beat Spirit so Donk was turned into some kind of villain. In the end, Furia didn't go to the Playoffs so Donk partially corrected his guess and was still champion and these people who turned him into a villain are having serious problems accepting that 😄😄😄😄
@@palpuck8409I know they can’t do anything about it, but them not having accents turns me off from their commentary, I think individually they are great but I don’t like their duo.
One thing you can understand from their vlogs that Donk is a team player and he wants to invest in team wins, not his personal. He understands to some extent that he is the greatest rn but he wants to win with his team, he appreciates his teammates and his connection with them that I why he doesn’t give a shit about his mvps. It is like Messi who couldn’t win with Argentina and was very upset about it As for him going to Faze right after win, it is just sportsmanship, he waited patiently, he was tired and wanted things to end quickly but he respected Faze and their emotions He is just a kid, do not try to read between the lines He is modest person who loves his team that’s all
1:50:15 - Liquid is missing not having Yekindar in the squad, how he is not kicked long ago is a big question, the dude never adapted to cs2 and his play style is relying on him shooting like donk, but with his current form he is just headless chicken running and dying every round
@ddr4v7z well trying to be igl was his excuse for being bad ok, but since cs2 came out he had never recovered even having no igl duties. He has Donk roles but has bot skills
The Maui tweet is actually brain dead. Perfect analogy would be baseball. A player’s rookie year is the first season they spend significant time in the major leagues. Regardless of how many seasons in the minor leagues they played prior to that.
It was very fair to say Monesy was a better player than donk before, I don't know why you're caught up on that. Donk just proved that he was number 1 this year in the last hurdle, doesn't mean everybody's opinion before was irrelevant
if faze still had twistzz they wouldve won copenhagen and shanghai frozen always crumble under pressure while twistzz rose up taking the game into his own hands
No way monesy gets #2 over Zywoo after this major. I had monesy #1 with an insanely slight edge before but he completely shat the bed at the end and the stats don't lie. I know it can't be all about stats, but you can't give zywoo #3 with those stats, that'd be grotesque
@@darklordinateurzywoo lost all games versus monesy in this year in playoff’s,and win only one tournament,when monesy got 3.What are you talking about when you say no way monesy better when zywoo in this year?
siuhy, jimmy, m0nesy, niko, malbs, would be a crazy good combo, even with jimmy instead of hunter, niko already splits if he goes to falcons propably, so the cousins would propably be split at that point
Spirit & donk совершили революцию в CS. Никто не ждал, что они так быстро ворвутся на сцену и возьмут 3 очень значимых турнира по CS. donk поставил очень много рекордов, и показал такой высокий уровень игры в свой дебютный год, что это заставит всех признанных звёзд CS поднять свою планку, больше работать над своей игрой, и становиться лучше!❤
I don’t get the zywoo defense. To say he had no Niko and Malbs is insane. Vitality have the most consistent rifler bar donk in Spinx, and flamez is pretty insane ( I know he was shit in that matchup v faze) but still, if you are the talisman of the team, then do what donk or m0nesy do, have impact with a hero AK and a Deagle. He did nothing great that series. Even in the major, all this guy does is farm 1.6 ratings in group stages, and if he doesn’t get a plumber or a carpenter team in the playoffs there’s positive ratings but no impact.
I agree that Zywoo played bad against Faze, IN ZYWOO'S STANDARS. Which means he was the second best player on the server, he had a 1.22 ratings. If this is a low, then I'm good with it. What did Monesy did against the same opponent (Faze) in playoff ? The rating (0.89) sums it up but the overall performance was disgusting. The thing with Zywoo is that the standard is so high that we think he should perform all the time the same way (which he does most of the time), but we don't have the same expectation with the other players. Still Vitality going out that early is a big disappointment.
Vitality biggest problem is Apex, I just don´t get, how can be the most mentally crumbling member of a team your IGL .... and his toxicity is another topic
@@elToro-yd9hy Nah Apex toxcicity is a myth. Every one on the scene likes the guy, He just love trashtalking and the scene would be boring without trashtalker, unles you prefer the Riot/Valorant type of mood... For IGLing, who would you suggest ? If you watch Vitality games, you can see so many times where he outsmarts the opponent. Appart from Siuhy I can't see anyone toping Apex for next year in this role... There is a reason why Falcons wanted him
@@OhDuur If everything in match goes fine, he is doing good ... but if they are behind he has absolutely zero mentality to break it ... he totally crumbles ... if you cannot see it, than you are blind, sry but it is what it is
Was rooting for niko to get his major on g2 especially since it was gonna be spirit in grand final but it wasnt meant to be. Hopefully he returns to a better org after falcons, maybe as an IGL he has the experience and voice for it.
It's staggering to me that prof after all these years still doesn't get whare "that zywoo expectations" are coming from. For real? Zywoo is measured against only the best of the best, some say he could content for goat in the future?! Of course he is gonna be scrutinised! The guy never fucking won against any other top 18 team in major playoffs other than c9 without an awper in Paris. Thats just embarrassing after 5 years in the game and he should of course be critiqued! donk already won more in playoffs than zywoo, having played 2 majors. s1mple is in another universe. Kind of ironic you guys call mouz bedwetters right after the zywoo talk :D
By stats he isn't the best rifler at the moment. Donk has better stats and collected more MVPs. I know haters gonna hate and Niko is more likable, but being more likable doesn't change the numbers.
Donk has been playing for like a year. Niko has roughly a decade of legacy behind him. Being "the best" is about the entirety of your career. If Donk can maintain his performance, he will be the GOAT in 2-3 years, even overtaking simple. You just cant get there in a single year.
@@Looneytunebro what? You can’t just casually say that being a top player doesn’t help you be a top player. Like the past practice doesn’t apply anymore 🤣
About donks "i don't care", he means that titles and medals actually less worth than the playing and winning with his teammates and overall Spirit org. I mean, he tried to become humble and didn't wanna take all the fame, it was result all of team, not only donk.
2:21:30 - m0nesy seems to have more of a European personality and character since being on G2. I have a hard time seeing him go for a Rus team when international projects are the hotness rn - Spirit being the outlier as a national team.
He moved to berlin when he joined g2 or shortly after and lives there now. Most russians who ever went here dont wanna go back, even if they are pro putin, theyll still not go back. So ye, doubt monesy wants to deal with russian mentality and unprofessionalism and political influence.
Also staying in germany means he cant be sent into the russian meatgrinder in ukraine. I dont see any russian who got a taste of freedom going back to that shithole. His family moved to berlin too with him.
All teams are facing issues, s1mple is the x-factor at this point. If s1mple stays in Falcons Nikos career will be diff. m0nesy is still too young for big moment.
Your hltv content creater of the year awards are a shame, how can neither thorin nor Richard be nominated, being two of the best we have. But sure put in every fucking skins guy. Wtf.
half of the teams had easy runs to playoffs. The teams that ended up having a hard time into playoffs were those said top teams of which lost to some of the easy teams that liquid beat. They only had hard runs because they were losing to teams they shouldnt have. Liquid lost 1 Bo3 all event, against the team that won the major. They nearly beat Navi if it werent for a wonderful life game. The rest of navi was playing like ass. Still a close game and only a Bo1 with an expected result. I honestly swear half the times you guys dont even watch the games. Which is almost pathetic considering one of you was casting the damn event. And sorry spunj your wrong, again. Yes they made some bad calls, as all teams do. But no donk in that game or donk with a slightly off game, Liquid wouldve had that match any day of the week. Instead he somehow managed to pull off impossible 3k or 4k rounds over and over again. Some that should've been impossible.
So what you're saying is Liquid almost won the Major except for all the times they didn’t? Sounds like you're auditioning to be their PR manager: ‘We only lose when the other team plays well!’
Liquid played shitter teams except for Navi and spirit where they LOST lmaooooo, they choked both games, notice anything? Maybe they have a weakness.. maybe losing when you have a lead every game doesn’t help either. They also were not winning dust 2 in overtime so keep coping 10% win rate ahh map bro get out of here. Trying to push some narrative they had a chance to win this major when they would have gotten smashed by Mongolz or mouz in round 2
@@tp4801I mean tbh they did. They didn’t play well at any point it’s why they were losing to furia and t2 teams. Same can be said about faze ig but like if it wasn’t for magixx playing out of his mind for 3 consecutive maps they lose 2-0. None of the teams looked like themselves though so ig any winner would’ve been lucky
donk simple walks across a stage and waits to shake hands, and the entirety of europe is fuming as if he went over and gave FaZe the middle finger lol
it's really crazy. People just hate donk for some reason and need to find some justification to continue
hahaha, fr, it just filters insecure and jealous people, i enjoy it
In Brazil people hated Donk because he thought Furia was going to be 0/3 and they beat Spirit so Donk was turned into some kind of villain. In the end, Furia didn't go to the Playoffs so Donk partially corrected his guess and was still champion and these people who turned him into a villain are having serious problems accepting that 😄😄😄😄
Well he is russian
@@Monkeytownboss least xenophobic cs player
Mad props to Spunj and Machine, their casting was absolutly amazing especially in the final, best in the world of casting no doubt in my mind.
100% agree, seems like an unpopular opinion, but I like their banter/yapping. I also have launders and scrawny very close 2nd
@@palpuck8409I know they can’t do anything about it, but them not having accents turns me off from their commentary, I think individually they are great but I don’t like their duo.
@@trademarked2476they should get pimp and bubzkji on the mic
@@trademarked2476they should get pimp and bubzkji on the mic
They knocked it out of the park. Personally I value launders and scrawny equal, love their style.
One thing you can understand from their vlogs that Donk is a team player and he wants to invest in team wins, not his personal. He understands to some extent that he is the greatest rn but he wants to win with his team, he appreciates his teammates and his connection with them that I why he doesn’t give a shit about his mvps. It is like Messi who couldn’t win with Argentina and was very upset about it
As for him going to Faze right after win, it is just sportsmanship, he waited patiently, he was tired and wanted things to end quickly but he respected Faze and their emotions
He is just a kid, do not try to read between the lines
He is modest person who loves his team that’s all
I totally agree with you! I'm glad anyone understands this.
China #1
Racism #1
Mongolz silver > Spirit diamond
I wonder what happened to the Uygurs
@@wfb.subtraktor311 They get anti-eco'd and they don't have Donk on deagle
I remember you said you were gunna stop doubting faze, the moment you doubted in pickems they play well and get to finals lmao
I actually loved being able to watch the games live instead of the morning after in Australia
Very fast upload this time W please keep doing it like this
1:50:15 - Liquid is missing not having Yekindar in the squad, how he is not kicked long ago is a big question, the dude never adapted to cs2 and his play style is relying on him shooting like donk, but with his current form he is just headless chicken running and dying every round
@ddr4v7z well trying to be igl was his excuse for being bad ok, but since cs2 came out he had never recovered even having no igl duties. He has Donk roles but has bot skills
The Maui tweet is actually brain dead. Perfect analogy would be baseball. A player’s rookie year is the first season they spend significant time in the major leagues. Regardless of how many seasons in the minor leagues they played prior to that.
If Monesy is not going to Falcons, Falcons will have a one more iteration of washed veterans that are about to retire
donk was always better than m0nesy i was tired of saying but Finally everyone acccepr it
yes, as an individual donk has way more impact than any other player right now
It was very fair to say Monesy was a better player than donk before, I don't know why you're caught up on that. Donk just proved that he was number 1 this year in the last hurdle, doesn't mean everybody's opinion before was irrelevant
Should lose to m0nesy once in a while as well lol
I just watch the major through UA-cam, I'd just rewind it to the start and crack on
if faze still had twistzz they wouldve won copenhagen and shanghai frozen always crumble under pressure while twistzz rose up taking the game into his own hands
100%
Not only that but it means Rain is their only aggressive rifle talent. Don't think that's efficient at all.
pure speculation haha
It's not pure speculation. Go watch the top rated players in big arena at 2024. Frozen is not in the top 20. He is always absent in big matches
@ pure speculation
donk #1 m0nesy #2 zywoo #3
zywoo > m0nesy im not talking about potential
No way monesy gets #2 over Zywoo after this major. I had monesy #1 with an insanely slight edge before but he completely shat the bed at the end and the stats don't lie. I know it can't be all about stats, but you can't give zywoo #3 with those stats, that'd be grotesque
@@darklordinateur zywoo ghosted copenhagen more than monesy ghosted shangahi
yes m0nesy and zywoo are real close, they could be either way I agree
@@darklordinateurzywoo lost all games versus monesy in this year in playoff’s,and win only one tournament,when monesy got 3.What are you talking about when you say no way monesy better when zywoo in this year?
Zontix likes the same books as Faker 😲 Also not surprised his favourite player is Ropz
Mouz core (Siuhy, Jimmy, Torzsi) to Falcons, add Niko and Magisk, seems good.
siuhy, jimmy, m0nesy, niko, malbs, would be a crazy good combo, even with jimmy instead of hunter, niko already splits if he goes to falcons propably, so the cousins would propably be split at that point
Spirit & donk совершили революцию в CS. Никто не ждал, что они так быстро ворвутся на сцену и возьмут 3 очень значимых турнира по CS. donk поставил очень много рекордов, и показал такой высокий уровень игры в свой дебютный год, что это заставит всех признанных звёзд CS поднять свою планку, больше работать над своей игрой, и становиться лучше!❤
Its not just donk donk and sh1ro their combo is good one is best opener andother closer if they can find someone in the middle would. Be insane
@@SaddamHussain-192 Kyousuke
Justice for Thorin
I don’t get the zywoo defense. To say he had no Niko and Malbs is insane. Vitality have the most consistent rifler bar donk in Spinx, and flamez is pretty insane ( I know he was shit in that matchup v faze) but still, if you are the talisman of the team, then do what donk or m0nesy do, have impact with a hero AK and a Deagle. He did nothing great that series. Even in the major, all this guy does is farm 1.6 ratings in group stages, and if he doesn’t get a plumber or a carpenter team in the playoffs there’s positive ratings but no impact.
I smell pure hatred in this one lmao
I agree that Zywoo played bad against Faze, IN ZYWOO'S STANDARS. Which means he was the second best player on the server, he had a 1.22 ratings. If this is a low, then I'm good with it. What did Monesy did against the same opponent (Faze) in playoff ? The rating (0.89) sums it up but the overall performance was disgusting. The thing with Zywoo is that the standard is so high that we think he should perform all the time the same way (which he does most of the time), but we don't have the same expectation with the other players.
Still Vitality going out that early is a big disappointment.
Vitality biggest problem is Apex, I just don´t get, how can be the most mentally crumbling member of a team your IGL .... and his toxicity is another topic
@@elToro-yd9hy Nah Apex toxcicity is a myth. Every one on the scene likes the guy, He just love trashtalking and the scene would be boring without trashtalker, unles you prefer the Riot/Valorant type of mood...
For IGLing, who would you suggest ? If you watch Vitality games, you can see so many times where he outsmarts the opponent. Appart from Siuhy I can't see anyone toping Apex for next year in this role... There is a reason why Falcons wanted him
@@OhDuur If everything in match goes fine, he is doing good ... but if they are behind he has absolutely zero mentality to break it ... he totally crumbles ... if you cannot see it, than you are blind, sry but it is what it is
Was rooting for niko to get his major on g2 especially since it was gonna be spirit in grand final but it wasnt meant to be.
Hopefully he returns to a better org after falcons, maybe as an IGL he has the experience and voice for it.
Falcons might. Get good player knowing niko is there
It's staggering to me that prof after all these years still doesn't get whare "that zywoo expectations" are coming from. For real?
Zywoo is measured against only the best of the best, some say he could content for goat in the future?! Of course he is gonna be scrutinised! The guy never fucking won against any other top 18 team in major playoffs other than c9 without an awper in Paris. Thats just embarrassing after 5 years in the game and he should of course be critiqued!
donk already won more in playoffs than zywoo, having played 2 majors. s1mple is in another universe.
Kind of ironic you guys call mouz bedwetters right after the zywoo talk :D
next major needs to have a bo5 final
With donk winning the major how will this affect Nikos legacy? Can you really still crown him as the best rifler in CS?
yes. because he also did it when the awp was strong.
By stats he isn't the best rifler at the moment. Donk has better stats and collected more MVPs. I know haters gonna hate and Niko is more likable, but being more likable doesn't change the numbers.
Donk has been playing for like a year. Niko has roughly a decade of legacy behind him. Being "the best" is about the entirety of your career. If Donk can maintain his performance, he will be the GOAT in 2-3 years, even overtaking simple. You just cant get there in a single year.
Past doesn't really matter. Being the best last year won't help you being the best this year.
@@Looneytunebro what? You can’t just casually say that being a top player doesn’t help you be a top player. Like the past practice doesn’t apply anymore 🤣
Some great ANECTODES in this episode
1:10:28 Spunj Resident sleepper
Not being able to hear the onstage mics during the show match was fucking shit.
Typical PGL though
About donks "i don't care", he means that titles and medals actually less worth than the playing and winning with his teammates and overall Spirit org. I mean, he tried to become humble and didn't wanna take all the fame, it was result all of team, not only donk.
Striker knows "you know" 😅😆
what headphones is prof using? because everyone ive owned was just painful to wear since i have a sensitive top of my head
Steelseries arctis nova pro!
It's so easy to spot how many kids have never played a real sport or any competitive activity IRL and have only done their life online 😂😂
2:21:30 - m0nesy seems to have more of a European personality and character since being on G2. I have a hard time seeing him go for a Rus team when international projects are the hotness rn - Spirit being the outlier as a national team.
He moved to berlin when he joined g2 or shortly after and lives there now. Most russians who ever went here dont wanna go back, even if they are pro putin, theyll still not go back. So ye, doubt monesy wants to deal with russian mentality and unprofessionalism and political influence.
Also staying in germany means he cant be sent into the russian meatgrinder in ukraine. I dont see any russian who got a taste of freedom going back to that shithole. His family moved to berlin too with him.
18 rounds away from being 4x major winner :(
It’s always so close for karrigan every time
yeah they did it when magixx flanked liquid, it was the game deciding moment that prevented what should've been an OT.
Mongolz top 3 and Tyloo top 20 next year Pog
Donk soeedrunning cs, he doesnt even understand what was all this fuss about, easy
Elige to G2 or Liquid.
When it comes to companies who have invested countless hours and development dollars into noise cancelation, yes, more expensive does equal better 😂
fl4mus going to be really good
falcons need jimmy+siuhy+top3 AWPer to even consider them doing good in 2025. if they don't get the mouz players falcons will be tier 3 team lol.
Mongolz top 3 next year and winning Austin Major
All teams are facing issues, s1mple is the x-factor at this point. If s1mple stays in Falcons Nikos career will be diff. m0nesy is still too young for big moment.
Bro is a top 2 player in the world, he had a bad series holy shit !!
2:03:30 the thing about Navi is every team prepared to play against them to get something new in a week or 2 ita hard
Elige to G2 fr
Now thats a bed time story i would listen to
Falcons is cooking something 🤢🤢
Whos takin fat rips in the back?
You spelled skinionaire without an i at 15:30
Your hltv content creater of the year awards are a shame, how can neither thorin nor Richard be nominated, being two of the best we have. But sure put in every fucking skins guy. Wtf.
Thee Mongollzz! MONGOOOLLLZZZZ THE GENGHISS KHAN JUNIOR! SHANGHAI 2024 MAJOR CHAMPION! THE MONGOLZZZZ 😢😢😢
Pog
1:53:40 - Striker just cuts off and interrupts Chad so rude - too rude. And he couldnt' shut up for like a minute after that. Can't read the room.
PagMan
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half of the teams had easy runs to playoffs. The teams that ended up having a hard time into playoffs were those said top teams of which lost to some of the easy teams that liquid beat. They only had hard runs because they were losing to teams they shouldnt have. Liquid lost 1 Bo3 all event, against the team that won the major. They nearly beat Navi if it werent for a wonderful life game. The rest of navi was playing like ass. Still a close game and only a Bo1 with an expected result. I honestly swear half the times you guys dont even watch the games. Which is almost pathetic considering one of you was casting the damn event. And sorry spunj your wrong, again. Yes they made some bad calls, as all teams do. But no donk in that game or donk with a slightly off game, Liquid wouldve had that match any day of the week. Instead he somehow managed to pull off impossible 3k or 4k rounds over and over again. Some that should've been impossible.
So what you're saying is Liquid almost won the Major except for all the times they didn’t? Sounds like you're auditioning to be their PR manager: ‘We only lose when the other team plays well!’
Liquid were easily the worst team in the playoffs and it isn’t close, they would of lost to any of the 7 teams.
@@Lucid34would have*
Liquid played shitter teams except for Navi and spirit where they LOST lmaooooo, they choked both games, notice anything? Maybe they have a weakness.. maybe losing when you have a lead every game doesn’t help either. They also were not winning dust 2 in overtime so keep coping 10% win rate ahh map bro get out of here. Trying to push some narrative they had a chance to win this major when they would have gotten smashed by Mongolz or mouz in round 2
Spirit got lucky.. that's all.
Funny, thats what haters say since Katowice haha
@@tp4801I mean tbh they did. They didn’t play well at any point it’s why they were losing to furia and t2 teams. Same can be said about faze ig but like if it wasn’t for magixx playing out of his mind for 3 consecutive maps they lose 2-0. None of the teams looked like themselves though so ig any winner would’ve been lucky
@@leadpoison7877All the teams in this major lost to weaker opponents. The same Navi, who were eliminated, although they were favorites
@@leadpoison7877 Destroying Major winner Navi 13:2 wasn't well. True haha
@@leadpoison7877the mainly have been losing to G2 this season and lost a couple of bo1’s. What are you even talking about?
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