Yes, but sometimes the alternate adage applies: "Travel light, freeze at night.". It helps to know the terrain/climate of one's travel route. Sub-freezing weather with little or no wood for a fire makes for a very dreary night.
you can find a plastic 2 qt. gov issue and cover with Alice clips you can clip to the side. Having used Alice when I was in in 80-84 there were also H straps to fix your sleep system on the bottom and your pad would probably tie down tighter if you close your top and bring the slack in your main straps to the top and run your pad thru the loops created by the straps then tighten your 2 main straps. just a suggestion from an old soldier
Best pack ever conceived. Yes. All you ever need. Carried all my 782 gear in my car/truck/jeep for decades after I got out of the Corps. Now, they call it “survival” gear, bug-out-Bag, or some such. But it’s really just your basic necessities. Good video.
The webbing on the sides of an ALICE pack fit some MOLLE pouches by sheer coincidence. The large ALICE can haul more than you want. The Medium is a good three day pack.
I know all to well how much extra you can carry by adding more pockets on the outside of the pack. It’s nice for gear you need to get to quickly or regularly.
Camping, bush crafting, survival, bugout, getting home on foot..... There's all kinds of ways and reasons to keep a kitted out ruck handy. In the civilian world its fully up to yourself to figure out what you want in your ruck. You can go for function over form or lean toward comfort of over function it up tp you! Just remember ONCES = POUNDS and POUNDS = PAIN. No ones going to carry it for you!
GREAT PRESENTATION AND WELL ARTICULATED. 2-PONCHO'S AND A LINER IS A GOOD IDEA. MAY WANT TO ADD - BUGSPRAY, COOKING OIL, A WRIST-ROCKET SLINGSHOT/AMMO & FISHING HOOKS/LURES/SPLIT-SHOT. THEY'VE COME IN HANDY IF YOU WANT TO CATCH DINNER AND COOK.
I have a Gregory Spear UM21 (main, assault, and butt pack), a CFP-90 with patrol pack, Molle field pack with assault pack, a Large Alice and Medium Alice. Out of those packs, the large Alice is my favorite.
Im from the UK and just bought a Large Alice Pack (with aluminium frame). I think its the best rucksack purchase I ever made. I dont think it does any one specific thing brilliantly, but it can do everything fairly well. Its just an amazing versatile pack. You can even strip off the pack, store that, and take the frame and straps out to collect firewood. I can understand why it pisses some people off, but as an all-round versatile back pack, you can turn it to any situation. Thanks for the video. Happy Thanks Giving.
You are absolutely right on all account, I’m actually about to start packing for a 2 week work/hunting/camping trip and I’m taking my big Alice with the frame and the small without the frame as a day pack/small work pack.
LC-1 and LC-2 are definitely tried and true. I use both for overnight to 5 day rucks. Helikon Tex Matilda is nice too and fairly reasonable for a new aftermarket ALICE. Recently I acquired an ILBE and I dont have anything bad to say about it. Thinking of trying out a medium MOLLE II. The large ruck is ridiculous 😄. For used surplus keep checking on EBAY. Also try looking into the DD frontline hammock. Can be used as a hammock or ground tent. Has a hooped bugnet. Big plus and light. A field cover, some bungee and a DD covers most bases. 👍👍
For Bushcraft use I the old Norwegian army Telemark/Ludvig, a great rucksack, lots of straps on and around it it fit Poncho, mats and sleeping bags [XL no problem] and you can push axes [or skis] between the side pouches and main compartment itself. Older ones in canvas, newer in Nylon.
Nice job. Im about to pull out my large Alice pack "Ranger Ruck" from my attic. Hey...look into some two quart canteens instead for bulk water storage.
I have seen some street medics use those vests as easily accessible med supply storage, the magazine and grenade pouches are great for holding often used items. I have a military style canteen and I bought a canteen pouch that has 2 side pockets for it, it has 2 molle hangers. I can fit my canteen cup and lid in that, hope to get the matching stove since I do not have any kind of portable stove at this time
Kaylynn Strain this vest was set up for both tactical and medical on my last deployment. If you check out my Instagram @o.t.r.outdoors there is a picture of it, it's one of my early post toward the bottom. It's a great way to keep everything you need close and easily accessible.
...and the good thing about how this fellow packed his large ALICE Pack,he still had plenty room for other items;thus,it is settled...I'm getting the medium size ALICE Pack.
That sweet blue mat has served as home many a time, lordy do I love mine. I cut down a 3 3/4' piece to just lay my back and hips on just to save that extra bit of room, but that's just my 2 cents, ain't nothing wrong with a whole pad
I suppose everyone will have their own idea of how to pack a ruck, unless it was issued to you; in which case, you'll pack it the way you're told!!! LOL!!! Back in the day, we called those medium rucks you mention as "baby rucks".......... simply because we never used anything but the large rucks in our units; which are nearly twice the size............which means, unfortunately, you carry twice the weight. LOL!!! When you're doing it, it sucks like nobody's business; but now that we're considered old men, I guess it's a good laugh to reminisce. Either one, which ever you use though, will be a reliable piece of gear. There was nothing high-tech about them; just basic, strong & durable, and lightweight when it was empty. My last eight or so years, the army was pushing hard for a replacement, trying the hi-tech route, and we were forced to use all the crazy ideas from folks that never had to carry it full of gear; but absolutely nothing was worth a damn compared to the ALICE pack, which I could carry over 120 lbs worth of equipment in (when I was young). Couldn't tell ya what the boys are carrying now, or if the stuff is any good, but I do know the stuff is godawful expensive. I retired just before the GWOT started, so I no longer get gear for free. Save a heap of cash and get yourself one of these if you can find them, either the smaller one here, or the large, and make sure you have the frame. I still have my two large ALICE packs I was issued, both are over twenty years old now, and still holding up with no deficiencies. Us old guys can't do much anymore, but our words are still pretty strong. I'm sixty-three, and I haven't found a pack that can do the job for less than 50 bucks yet. Stay Outdoors ~ Stay Alive in your Heart & Soul
+Whiskey River couldn't agree more with you I've been using one size or another of the Alice Pack since 2006, and I gave up using the issued hi-tech stuff when we had the option an just used it instead.
nice video, I love my large alice, I was watching ya pack it back up and I kept thinking, DON'T FORGET THE MORA ELDRIS UNDER THE PACK! lol, good video thanks for sharing, definitely going to subscribe
Having used the large Alice for years and still like it. I prefer the Molle II Medium for civilian use. The Alice Large may be able to hold more gear but the molle II medium is more comfortable, more customizable, and fits my current needs.
O.T.R. Outdoors Great news! it will be good to see you back. I am looking at the Molle II for winter camping to hold all the extra insulation items. It has more internal storage with the two sustainment pouches than the Alice large. I am looking at external frames only.
when i went on holiday i used my A.L.I.C.E pack ( medium ) the airport emptied & checked it because tacticool isn't grayman ~ its suspected militant ! also mine has a separate pouch; with light sticks , a compass( kaggage i camp out not travel distance ) fishing gear , flint&steal ,multi tool, torch, basic first aid, etc
I have the US Army issue Alice Pack, I call it the bottomless kit pit lol. But there is no better pack for quality and space. I use the rucksack for my primary bugout pack and the Alice for my bushcraft pack that is loaded on my ATV. Appreciate your review on the use of military gear and I use very similar gear as yours.
They are both great pack, I’ve been using the Alice pack as my go to pack for almost 15 years now. I haven’t found anything I like better, not saying it can’t be done, but it hasn’t happen yet.
I love the Alice pack! I have the large one I have had since I was like 8. Now I have a medium one that I have a mmss carrier underneath the pack on the frame. Also I took the molle shoulder straps off a newer style molle pack and replaced the older shoulder straps. The last thing I am going to do is replace the old waist belt with one of the molle ones. Great looking load out!!! I did a video on my pack if you wanted to check it out. The pack rides like a dream now!
The Dog House Outdoors like I said this is my go to pack, I love it. I'll have to look into the new shoulder straps. I personally don't ever use the waistband, it's on there if I need it, but with my military background I've always had other gear on my waist so I couldn't use it. Now it's just habit that I don't. There are a few thing I'd like to add but I'm set up pretty well for just about any trip I want to take. I'll check out your video, thanks for the heads up on it.
Love the video give me good ideas of things to take with me. did you know you can put your sleeping mat on the outside of the top flap and the strap will hold it in place.
Nice set up. Your swede saw needs to have more bow to the frame, I own an antique Boy Scouts model with the triangle shaped frame and I have found that the frame touches down and lifts the blade if I don't keep the stoke short, everything else looks great.
Nice job on the video brother I like how you are very descriptive of all of your gear and of this pack itself. I am planning on buying one of these packs in the future. My question for you is what are your thoughts of using a heavy contractor grade garbage bag as a waterproof pack liner have you ever tried this? All of the military waterproof bags I ever find are just no good, and a trash bag if ruined could just be used for that and cheaply replaced. Also what about tying it or using the pack for flotation in an emergency.
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. Yes I have used the heavy duty bags to water proof gear and it is a great low cost way to keep your gear dry. I have a few medium to high end dry bags that I use instead, simply because of durability, they do cost you some money up front but they last a long time and can be used as just a bag. Both are good options. Both the trash bag and the dry bag option can be sealed or tried off and placed inside the bag and then used as an emergency floatation device. Even used simple to get you and your gear across a body of water that is not passable any other way but by swimming.
I thought the large Alice was much bigger than the medium I just ordered the large one off eBay I have the medium already I have owned the medium sized Alice a couple of months now and found out it's too small for my hunting needs...can you please give me a good idea of what kinda of army backpack would be a ideal backpack for packing for a week hunting trip thanks.
Thanks for watching the video. The large Alice pack can be used for a week long trip, if you pack correctly. By putting your sleep system on the bottom of the bag and add a pouch or two on the sides you gain a ton of space in the main bucket. If you are looking for a larger pack and want to keep with a military style, you may want to look into the ILBE gen 2 ruck. It’s taller and has more space for adding external pouches, it also has a daypack as part of the pack that can be taken off and used independently.
If you're going to get through thick bush, leave the small ax, folding saw and bow saw at home. Get yourself a good quality and light machete, easy to sharpen and a sharpening stone. It will replace all of that tools. Forget carrying a chair. Leave that for beer camping with buddies. Use a light hammock, it will do the same and it's much lighter. I grew up in the mountains in Venezuela, and I could say you may don't need so many tools.
I definitely believe it’s a lot of gear, and it’s all situation dependent. There are places I use a machete and only a machete, but there are lots of places you need something more.
Did’t see a water filter. Do you carry one? If so, what kind? Beyond that, you had a well thought out and well organized pack. I have the large ALICE pack also and like it real well. Good vid, thank you.
Not trying to take away from your pack, just saying what I use. I used the large alice pack for 5 years and loved it. But then I found the large molle II pack. I've used it for 2 years now year round and see no reason to change. For the most part its just like the alice, but I can configure the outside of it the way I like.
+Mark Steele Thanks for the tip, I just learned that trick this last week, you'd think I would have seen it back in the day when I was with the grunts , but never did.
The pathfinder canteen kit you have is awesome you should use it some time. You will find it works very well. I have an Alice pack as well, I replaced it with the new Mollie 2 large ruck sack. Way more comfortable and way stronger
The Alice Pack is the best,be it camping,bob,shtf,(IMO)I’ve seen nice(Molle)packs zippers break off,Yes you can rig it using a safety pin.But I’ve also seen the teeth on the zipper shear off.Even on )100.00 packs.Any Alice Pack(IMO)is not superior it’s far superior.Than that Molle CRAP.
Ive seen a few large ALICE packs moddified. On the sides they added zips for PLCE pouches. But the PLCE pouches tthem slves were modified put a extra sleeve pocket on to hd 2lt water bladders
Here is the link to the video I did on it. If my memory serves me correctly, it’s a Blackhawk Interceptor vest. m.ua-cam.com/video/_W31Pa6s2yQ/v-deo.html
Thank you for taking the time to watch my video. Yes, it is the large, I clearly say that it is a large. I also say that I own a medium and have used a medium. I also discussed the differences between the large and medium Alice pack.
Your sleep system goes on the out side of your Alice pack. Not the inside. I keep seeing people put their tent and or tarp on the inside when it was originally designed to be placed on the outside. This made room for clothing and ammunition and food. But your load out looks ok. People keep using the pack wrong. Makes me question. SEMPER FI
The medium ALICE is meant to be set up with or without the frame. The large ALICE is meant to be used with frame only. I set my large ALICE up with a DEI 1606 AC (ALICE Compatible) frame. Better than the GI aluminum frame.
+Mark Chambers here is the cheapest I found online, you might have better luck finding a local surplus store but this is a decent price for the large pack. www.armynavyoutdoors.com/surplus-issue-large-alice-pack-with-frame/?sku=208389
Sorry if you are getting 3 response on here, service isn’t great where I’m at. I’ve got one just need to put it on, they do make a difference, especially on long hikes. Plus I’m going to add a 550 cord handle.
Its Hard to go against the ALICE pack. I have the Medium one and like yourself I may Like you move on to the Large one. I have owned different Higher priced bags which have indeed served their purposes and its hard to tell they aren't new as they are in FANTASTIC Shape. ( Just use a wet sponge on them and BANG, New car smell ) But I have seen some Alice Packs over 40 years old and Have seen combat that can say the same. Like you I am a Tarp rather than a tent person as it just gives you more options, I also have seen many go the way of the Poncho and never have problems or regrets. I do carry a North Face Wasatch 40°F bag that with a few small additions can take my to Well Below 0°F. You sound Like you have a Lot of What I like to call " Head Equipment " and it will serve you well. I'm not sure if you mentioned where you live and if For nothing more than OPSEC sake I understand. I myself Live in the Appalachian Mountains area so Knowing not only the terrain but other things that can kill you other than Mistakes or Accidents or Fate known but to God, Other Than Humans The Biggest Wildlife threat would be the Black Bear but to be Honest if you spend anytime in the woods more than likely you have been less that 5 to 10 feet away from a Black Bear and Never Noticed. The reason is because He or She were on their knees praying " Dear God, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE Let this 2 legged thing not see me and keep on walking, I've tried to be a good Bear and I won't even snatch a picnic basket again if you get me out of this one AMEN." I was just wondering ( As I too will be carrying a 10/22 and a Ruger Mark IV ) Will You be carrying another type of Handgun that Can protect you against the 2 and 4 legged Predators ? I will only carry one of 3 1) .357 Magnum 2) .45 ACP or 3) 10mm all with FMJ Deep Penetrating rounds. Again, Great Video and I have Subscribed to your Channel and Please forgive me for being Long winded. Sounds like you may be a Veteran ?.If so Thank you for your Service, God Bless you and Your Family with Long Life, Health, and Prosperity.
If you need need more weight why not add a file for re-profiling your axe blade just in case its needed. I bought a file when I bought the sharpening puck. It just seemed like a really great idea... Its a good video you put together for a lot though. I'm looking at buying a Large ALICE myself as well to replace my Large ACU ruck.
@@OTROutdoors Yeah I'm looking on eBay. I'm always looking for the best deal. I bought the Large Molle 2 ACU ruck and really hate it. Too much weight even just empty. In my days of the Army Molle wasn't even heard of I don't think. That was nearly 20 yrs ago. Lol. But I do want the Large ALICE. I did buy the MMSS for $85 (+$32 shipping). It had only been used once the guy said. He had bought 5 for him and his family. It is practically Brand New. Apparently God truly blessed me with a really good system. It was the woodland Bivy. I looked for a deal I couldn't refuse for months. And it was $95 but the guy couldn't find the compression bag so he knocked off $10 and then it got here and I pulled out the Bivy and there was the compression bag and I offered to send the $10 back and he said no need. He said he looked EVERYWHERE but in the box... Lol
@@OTROutdoors yeah I figured the MMSS would be a great addition to a BOB. I have my mother and daughter packs ready as well just to get the Hell outof dodge just in case Russia does hit us with EMP and I have a couple Walkies, headlamps, and extra solar radios stored in a Faraday Cage as well. Can never have too much equipment when it comes to survival and a crap load stored for first aid, antibiotics, and natural pain reliever from like processed wild lettuce...
All the people who show videos on packs and gear make the same mistakes. They do not include their sheath knives, pocket knives, compass in your shirt pocket, matches in your pockets. These items and more do not go into the pack weight. They do not include water weight, usually go light on food weight. TP is often left out, more a bulk issue no a weight issue. No extra glasses if you wear glasses, no medication. Weight is weight whether it is in your pocket, on your belt you get to carry it. .
Richard Provost that can be true, but it can also help people who are new to the outdoors and need a starting point or want some new ideas of what they can care. For me personally, I just like sharing what I use in hopes that it will inspire and help other people to learn and get outside and spend time in the woods too.
the lighter you are the farther you will go, and the more you know the less you carry.
All very true statements
Yes, but sometimes the alternate adage applies: "Travel light, freeze at night.". It helps to know the terrain/climate of one's travel route. Sub-freezing weather with little or no wood for a fire makes for a very dreary night.
you can find a plastic 2 qt. gov issue and cover with Alice clips you can clip to the side. Having used Alice when I was in in 80-84 there were also H straps to fix your sleep system on the bottom and your pad would probably tie down tighter if you close your top and bring the slack in your main straps to the top and run your pad thru the loops created by the straps then tighten your 2 main straps. just a suggestion from an old soldier
Best pack ever conceived. Yes.
All you ever need.
Carried all my 782 gear in my car/truck/jeep for decades after I got out of the Corps.
Now, they call it “survival” gear, bug-out-Bag, or some such.
But it’s really just your basic necessities.
Good video.
Thank you, it’s all about the basic essentials, but it goes by a ton of different names these days.
The webbing on the sides of an ALICE pack fit some MOLLE pouches by sheer coincidence. The large ALICE can haul more than you want. The Medium is a good three day pack.
I know all to well how much extra you can carry by adding more pockets on the outside of the pack. It’s nice for gear you need to get to quickly or regularly.
Camping, bush crafting, survival, bugout, getting home on foot..... There's all kinds of ways and reasons to keep a kitted out ruck handy. In the civilian world its fully up to yourself to figure out what you want in your ruck. You can go for function over form or lean toward comfort of over function it up tp you!
Just remember ONCES = POUNDS and POUNDS = PAIN. No ones going to carry it for you!
You are absolutely right, NO one is going to do it for you. Thank you for taking the time to watch the video.
GREAT PRESENTATION AND WELL ARTICULATED.
2-PONCHO'S AND A LINER IS A GOOD IDEA. MAY WANT TO ADD - BUGSPRAY, COOKING OIL, A WRIST-ROCKET SLINGSHOT/AMMO & FISHING HOOKS/LURES/SPLIT-SHOT. THEY'VE COME IN HANDY IF YOU WANT TO CATCH DINNER AND COOK.
Thank you
great video man. The ALICE has been worn out since around 2007. And yet I still use mine for all official business!
I still rock mine all the time.
Thanks to TACTICAL TAILOR to keep the ALICE alive.
Dude that was the best gear dump ever... you gave me a great view of your Alice pack and your gear... great.. J
Thank you.
I have a Gregory Spear UM21 (main, assault, and butt pack), a CFP-90 with patrol pack, Molle field pack with assault pack, a Large Alice and Medium Alice. Out of those packs, the large Alice is my favorite.
I’ve used all of those as well, the Alice is such a good pack it’s hard to change to something different.
Got to love the Alice pack. Like your setup good basic kit. Thanks.
+Opal Preston Shirley thanks taking the time to watch.
Im from the UK and just bought a Large Alice Pack (with aluminium frame). I think its the best rucksack purchase I ever made. I dont think it does any one specific thing brilliantly, but it can do everything fairly well. Its just an amazing versatile pack. You can even strip off the pack, store that, and take the frame and straps out to collect firewood. I can understand why it pisses some people off, but as an all-round versatile back pack, you can turn it to any situation. Thanks for the video. Happy Thanks Giving.
You are absolutely right on all account, I’m actually about to start packing for a 2 week work/hunting/camping trip and I’m taking my big Alice with the frame and the small without the frame as a day pack/small work pack.
@@OTROutdoors Thank you. And have a great trip.
Nice set-up. Thank you sharing it with us.
shovelhead8 anytime. If you want me to got more in depth with any of the gear in the kit let me know.
LC-1 and LC-2 are definitely tried and true. I use both for overnight to 5 day rucks. Helikon Tex Matilda is nice too and fairly reasonable for a new aftermarket ALICE. Recently I acquired an ILBE and I dont have anything bad to say about it. Thinking of trying out a medium MOLLE II. The large ruck is ridiculous 😄. For used surplus keep checking on EBAY. Also try looking into the DD frontline hammock. Can be used as a hammock or ground tent. Has a hooped bugnet. Big plus and light. A field cover, some bungee and a DD covers most bases. 👍👍
Thanks for the load info...
For Bushcraft use I the old Norwegian army Telemark/Ludvig, a great rucksack, lots of straps on and around it it fit Poncho, mats and sleeping bags [XL no problem] and you can push axes [or skis] between the side pouches and main compartment itself. Older ones in canvas, newer in Nylon.
Nice job. Im about to pull out my large Alice pack "Ranger Ruck" from my attic. Hey...look into some two quart canteens instead for bulk water storage.
I have seen some street medics use those vests as easily accessible med supply storage, the magazine and grenade pouches are great for holding often used items. I have a military style canteen and I bought a canteen pouch that has 2 side pockets for it, it has 2 molle hangers. I can fit my canteen cup and lid in that, hope to get the matching stove since I do not have any kind of portable stove at this time
Kaylynn Strain this vest was set up for both tactical and medical on my last deployment. If you check out my Instagram @o.t.r.outdoors there is a picture of it, it's one of my early post toward the bottom. It's a great way to keep everything you need close and easily accessible.
...and the good thing about how this fellow packed his large ALICE Pack,he still had plenty room for other items;thus,it is settled...I'm getting the medium size ALICE Pack.
Plus, you can always scale up the medium Alice if need. Eberlestock side saddles are quite nice for adding extra storage.
Totally agree. Thanks for sharing
Thank you.
That sweet blue mat has served as home many a time, lordy do I love mine. I cut down a 3 3/4' piece to just lay my back and hips on just to save that extra bit of room, but that's just my 2 cents, ain't nothing wrong with a whole pad
Good loadout. I carry a tiny lightweight hammock also. We used to wrap 550 cord around the frame horizontally and a few bungees.
I do carry a hammock pretty regularly, it’s nice and convenient. I’m going to do a part 2 soon, with some upgrades and diy add ons.
My flibe Alice MOLLE hybrid I have 4 bungies on
I suppose everyone will have their own idea of how to pack a ruck, unless it was issued to you; in which case, you'll pack it the way you're told!!! LOL!!! Back in the day, we called those medium rucks you mention as "baby rucks".......... simply because we never used anything but the large rucks in our units; which are nearly twice the size............which means, unfortunately, you carry twice the weight. LOL!!! When you're doing it, it sucks like nobody's business; but now that we're considered old men, I guess it's a good laugh to reminisce. Either one, which ever you use though, will be a reliable piece of gear. There was nothing high-tech about them; just basic, strong & durable, and lightweight when it was empty. My last eight or so years, the army was pushing hard for a replacement, trying the hi-tech route, and we were forced to use all the crazy ideas from folks that never had to carry it full of gear; but absolutely nothing was worth a damn compared to the ALICE pack, which I could carry over 120 lbs worth of equipment in (when I was young). Couldn't tell ya what the boys are carrying now, or if the stuff is any good, but I do know the stuff is godawful expensive. I retired just before the GWOT started, so I no longer get gear for free. Save a heap of cash and get yourself one of these if you can find them, either the smaller one here, or the large, and make sure you have the frame. I still have my two large ALICE packs I was issued, both are over twenty years old now, and still holding up with no deficiencies. Us old guys can't do much anymore, but our words are still pretty strong. I'm sixty-three, and I haven't found a pack that can do the job for less than 50 bucks yet. Stay Outdoors ~ Stay Alive in your Heart & Soul
+Whiskey River couldn't agree more with you I've been using one size or another of the Alice Pack since 2006, and I gave up using the issued hi-tech stuff when we had the option an just used it instead.
63 ain't old !!
Alice pack is so versitile
awesome lay Out buddy
well done
so steve thank you.
Nice load out ! Great job
Thank you
nice video, I love my large alice, I was watching ya pack it back up and I kept thinking, DON'T FORGET THE MORA ELDRIS UNDER THE PACK! lol, good video thanks for sharing, definitely going to subscribe
+Barefoot Pete truly appreciate it.
Having used the large Alice for years and still like it. I prefer the Molle II Medium for civilian use. The Alice Large may be able to hold more gear but the molle II medium is more comfortable, more customizable, and fits my current needs.
It definitely has some advantages, I’m trying out a new pack now, I’ll have a new video up with it in the near future.
O.T.R. Outdoors Great news! it will be good to see you back. I am looking at the Molle II for winter camping to hold all the extra insulation items. It has more internal storage with the two sustainment pouches than the Alice large. I am looking at external frames only.
Awesome pack
when i went on holiday i used my A.L.I.C.E pack ( medium ) the airport emptied & checked it because tacticool isn't grayman ~ its suspected militant !
also mine has a separate pouch; with light sticks , a compass( kaggage i camp out not travel distance ) fishing gear , flint&steal ,multi tool, torch, basic first aid, etc
I have the US Army issue Alice Pack, I call it the bottomless kit pit lol. But there is no better pack for quality and space. I use the rucksack for my primary bugout pack and the Alice for my bushcraft pack that is loaded on my ATV. Appreciate your review on the use of military gear and I use very similar gear as yours.
They are both great pack, I’ve been using the Alice pack as my go to pack for almost 15 years now. I haven’t found anything I like better, not saying it can’t be done, but it hasn’t happen yet.
nice pack, i have the same one and the medium
I love the Alice pack! I have the large one I have had since I was like 8. Now I have a medium one that I have a mmss carrier underneath the pack on the frame. Also I took the molle shoulder straps off a newer style molle pack and replaced the older shoulder straps. The last thing I am going to do is replace the old waist belt with one of the molle ones. Great looking load out!!! I did a video on my pack if you wanted to check it out. The pack rides like a dream now!
The Dog House Outdoors like I said this is my go to pack, I love it. I'll have to look into the new shoulder straps. I personally don't ever use the waistband, it's on there if I need it, but with my military background I've always had other gear on my waist so I couldn't use it. Now it's just habit that I don't. There are a few thing I'd like to add but I'm set up pretty well for just about any trip I want to take. I'll check out your video, thanks for the heads up on it.
If you take a look at the Australian Army infantry most of them use an ALICE pack in DPCU and typically it will have some more pouches
Nice setup
Well thoughtout gear.
Thanks
Living next door ... to Alice
well done
Great, you had me worried for a moment.
Love the video give me good ideas of things to take with me.
did you know you can put your sleeping mat on the outside of the top flap and the strap will hold it in place.
Nice set up. Your swede saw needs to have more bow to the frame, I own an antique Boy Scouts model with the triangle shaped frame and I have found that the frame touches down and lifts the blade if I don't keep the stoke short, everything else looks great.
Very interesting, good ideas ....... excellent channel ..... Greetings from Austria
Sava Adventures thank you, really appreciate it.
You're welcome ... I wish you all the best
Nice job on the video brother I like how you are very descriptive of all of your gear and of this pack itself. I am planning on buying one of these packs in the future. My question for you is what are your thoughts of using a heavy contractor grade garbage bag as a waterproof pack liner have you ever tried this? All of the military waterproof bags I ever find are just no good, and a trash bag if ruined could just be used for that and cheaply replaced. Also what about tying it or using the pack for flotation in an emergency.
Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. Yes I have used the heavy duty bags to water proof gear and it is a great low cost way to keep your gear dry. I have a few medium to high end dry bags that I use instead, simply because of durability, they do cost you some money up front but they last a long time and can be used as just a bag. Both are good options. Both the trash bag and the dry bag option can be sealed or tried off and placed inside the bag and then used as an emergency floatation device. Even used simple to get you and your gear across a body of water that is not passable any other way but by swimming.
@@OTROutdoors thanks for the info, have a good one.
Nice rig!
Good vid man!
Thank you
wilderness innovations poncho for the win it's a chair and a hammock and a tarp too.
I thought the large Alice was much bigger than the medium I just ordered the large one off eBay I have the medium already I have owned the medium sized Alice a couple of months now and found out it's too small for my hunting needs...can you please give me a good idea of what kinda of army backpack would be a ideal backpack for packing for a week hunting trip thanks.
Thanks for watching the video. The large Alice pack can be used for a week long trip, if you pack correctly. By putting your sleep system on the bottom of the bag and add a pouch or two on the sides you gain a ton of space in the main bucket. If you are looking for a larger pack and want to keep with a military style, you may want to look into the ILBE gen 2 ruck. It’s taller and has more space for adding external pouches, it also has a daypack as part of the pack that can be taken off and used independently.
If you're going to get through thick bush, leave the small ax, folding saw and bow saw at home. Get yourself a good quality and light machete, easy to sharpen and a sharpening stone. It will replace all of that tools. Forget carrying a chair. Leave that for beer camping with buddies. Use a light hammock, it will do the same and it's much lighter. I grew up in the mountains in Venezuela, and I could say you may don't need so many tools.
I definitely believe it’s a lot of gear, and it’s all situation dependent. There are places I use a machete and only a machete, but there are lots of places you need something more.
Did’t see a water filter. Do you carry one? If so, what kind? Beyond that, you had a well thought out and well organized pack. I have the large ALICE pack also and like it real well. Good vid, thank you.
I do carry one from time to time, it’s a sawyer squeeze mini. Thank you.
If money isn't an option, take a look at the Titanium Canteen set from Heavy Cover.
+tracker fiend it is on my get list for later. I've been eyeing them for about a year now.
I'm interested what branch and what you did while in?
+Cory Boyd go watch my Who is Tyler video, I cover most of what I did.
When you gonna do the AT with that Alice pack?
If I lived in the area still I would, but I’m not close to it anymore.
Merry Christmas
Not trying to take away from your pack, just saying what I use. I used the large alice pack for 5 years and loved it. But then I found the large molle II pack. I've used it for 2 years now year round and see no reason to change. For the most part its just like the alice, but I can configure the outside of it the way I like.
Where did you buy your rucksack ? Im tryin to find a rucksack like that but not getting anywhere.
I’ve had both of mine for almost 15 years and got both while in the military. The last few I’ve seen at a good price was facebook marketplace.
Why not slide your mat through the straps on top of the cover flap rather than under the cover flap?
+Mark Steele Thanks for the tip, I just learned that trick this last week, you'd think I would have seen it back in the day when I was with the grunts , but never did.
I'm confused. Are you saying all the items described are able to be fitted in the Alice Pack...??
Yes everything in the video fits in the pack, minus the sleep pad.
Can you send me a link to bye couple ? Than you for your service . Mark
Louisiana
Did you ever get the black bag. wondering how you run the whole thing. Black bag adds size.
+paulsir1500 not yet but once I get to my next location I'll be getting one and will do a follow up video then.
The pathfinder canteen kit you have is awesome you should use it some time. You will find it works very well. I have an Alice pack as well, I replaced it with the new Mollie 2 large ruck sack. Way more comfortable and way stronger
Sleeping pag carrier molle 2, pag under that alice and its complette👍
The Alice Pack is the best,be it camping,bob,shtf,(IMO)I’ve seen nice(Molle)packs zippers break off,Yes you can rig it using a safety pin.But I’ve also seen the teeth on the zipper shear off.Even on )100.00 packs.Any Alice Pack(IMO)is not superior it’s far superior.Than that Molle CRAP.
I completely agree with you.
i like the alice pack i am ex brit army i had one love them
Ive seen a few large ALICE packs moddified. On the sides they added zips for PLCE pouches. But the PLCE pouches tthem slves were modified put a extra sleeve pocket on to hd 2lt water bladders
where do i this backpack for to buy ?
Amazon has them.
Thanks
+Mark Chambers anytime.
great video can ya tell me again what type vest is that ,thank you Great job Sir .
Here is the link to the video I did on it. If my memory serves me correctly, it’s a Blackhawk Interceptor vest.
m.ua-cam.com/video/_W31Pa6s2yQ/v-deo.html
check out way point survival for his folding chair pack frame idea very cool.
The alice pack you have there is a large, not medium.. medium does not have the 3 pockets on the top center..
Thank you for taking the time to watch my video. Yes, it is the large, I clearly say that it is a large. I also say that I own a medium and have used a medium. I also discussed the differences between the large and medium Alice pack.
Your sleep system goes on the out side of your Alice pack. Not the inside. I keep seeing people put their tent and or tarp on the inside when it was originally designed to be placed on the outside. This made room for clothing and ammunition and food. But your load out looks ok. People keep using the pack wrong. Makes me question.
SEMPER FI
Yep... ALICE packs are tried and true. Nice setup you got there.
Bushcraft, Survival, & Emergency Preparedness thank you.
Remember a First Aid Kit and Toilet Paper! Maps, Binos, extra cash, better knives, etc. :-)
What vest is that?
Blackhawk intercepter if memory serves me correctly.
Side arm and bear spray.👍
Yes and location dependent,
Admit it...
the best pack ever is a fanny pack.
Brand ?
Skurrcules - USGI
How do you use the ALICE pack without the frame?
I’ll try to put a video out covering that while I’m on leave.
The medium ALICE is meant to be set up with or without the frame. The large ALICE is meant to be used with frame only. I set my large ALICE up with a DEI 1606 AC (ALICE Compatible) frame. Better than the GI aluminum frame.
Missing Commo..
The pack
+Mark Chambers here is the cheapest I found online, you might have better luck finding a local surplus store but this is a decent price for the large pack.
www.armynavyoutdoors.com/surplus-issue-large-alice-pack-with-frame/?sku=208389
buy a sternum. it makes a big difference. you will like it.
Sorry if you are getting 3 response on here, service isn’t great where I’m at. I’ve got one just need to put it on, they do make a difference, especially on long hikes. Plus I’m going to add a 550 cord handle.
I use a old Alice pack for every day no frame
I’ve used mine a few time with no frame, I don’t mind it as long at I’m not carrying a lot of weight.
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Its Hard to go against the ALICE pack. I have the Medium one and like yourself I may Like you move on to the Large one.
I have owned different Higher priced bags which have indeed served their purposes and its hard to tell they aren't new as they are in FANTASTIC Shape.
( Just use a wet sponge on them and BANG, New car smell ) But I have seen some Alice Packs over 40 years old and Have seen combat that can say the same.
Like you I am a Tarp rather than a tent person as it just gives you more options, I also have seen many go the way of the Poncho and never have problems or regrets. I do carry a North Face Wasatch 40°F bag that with a few small additions can take my to Well Below 0°F. You sound Like you have a Lot of What I like to call " Head Equipment " and it will serve you well.
I'm not sure if you mentioned where you live and if For nothing more than OPSEC sake I understand. I myself Live in the Appalachian Mountains area so Knowing not only the terrain but other things that can kill you other than Mistakes or Accidents or Fate known but to God, Other Than Humans The Biggest Wildlife threat would be the Black Bear but to be
Honest if you spend anytime in the woods more than likely you have been less that 5 to 10 feet away from a Black Bear and Never Noticed.
The reason is because He or She were on their knees praying " Dear God, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE Let this 2 legged thing not see me and keep on walking, I've tried to be a good Bear and I won't even snatch a picnic basket again if you get me out of this one AMEN."
I was just wondering ( As I too will be carrying a 10/22 and a Ruger Mark IV ) Will You be carrying another type of Handgun that Can protect you against the 2 and 4 legged Predators ?
I will only carry one of 3
1) .357 Magnum
2) .45 ACP or
3) 10mm all with FMJ Deep Penetrating rounds.
Again, Great Video and I have Subscribed to your Channel and Please forgive me for being Long winded. Sounds like you may be a Veteran ?.If so Thank you for your Service, God Bless you and Your Family with Long Life, Health, and Prosperity.
The pack is definitely on the top of the list of best packs ever. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and respond.
So can a regular joe get ahold of one? A real one that is.
+chinchudo if you are referring to the pack, yes most surplus store will have them and you can get them on amazon as well.
If you need need more weight why not add a file for re-profiling your axe blade just in case its needed. I bought a file when I bought the sharpening puck. It just seemed like a really great idea...
Its a good video you put together for a lot though. I'm looking at buying a Large ALICE myself as well to replace my Large ACU ruck.
Thank you taking the time to watch, I do carry a file now and really only use my stone for my knife. And I do highly recommend getting the Alice pack.
@@OTROutdoors
Yeah I'm looking on eBay. I'm always looking for the best deal. I bought the Large Molle 2 ACU ruck and really hate it. Too much weight even just empty. In my days of the Army Molle wasn't even heard of I don't think. That was nearly 20 yrs ago. Lol. But I do want the Large ALICE. I did buy the MMSS for $85 (+$32 shipping). It had only been used once the guy said. He had bought 5 for him and his family. It is practically Brand New. Apparently God truly blessed me with a really good system. It was the woodland Bivy. I looked for a deal I couldn't refuse for months. And it was $95 but the guy couldn't find the compression bag so he knocked off $10 and then it got here and I pulled out the Bivy and there was the compression bag and I offered to send the $10 back and he said no need. He said he looked EVERYWHERE but in the box... Lol
It’s a great set up and you can go without a shelter if you don’t want to set one up or just need to get out of the weather.
@@OTROutdoors yeah I figured the MMSS would be a great addition to a BOB. I have my mother and daughter packs ready as well just to get the Hell outof dodge just in case Russia does hit us with EMP and I have a couple Walkies, headlamps, and extra solar radios stored in a Faraday Cage as well. Can never have too much equipment when it comes to survival and a crap load stored for first aid, antibiotics, and natural pain reliever from like processed wild lettuce...
No food?
This is the load out, without food added.
Where's the duct tape?
It’s in the first aid kit.
Top vid bud, defo guna get it hat pack from a our kit load out and pack review... You dipping???? If so dipper to dipper check out my channel bro....
All the people who show videos on packs and gear make the same mistakes. They do not include their sheath knives, pocket knives, compass in your shirt pocket, matches in your pockets. These items and more do not go into the pack weight. They do not include water weight, usually go light on food weight. TP is often left out, more a bulk issue no a weight issue. No extra glasses if you wear glasses, no medication. Weight is weight whether it is in your pocket, on your belt you get to carry it. .
The trouble with these videos is these people want us to see them .. Nothing more or less in these packs then any one else's has.. Its look at me ...
Richard Provost that can be true, but it can also help people who are new to the outdoors and need a starting point or want some new ideas of what they can care. For me personally, I just like sharing what I use in hopes that it will inspire and help other people to learn and get outside and spend time in the woods too.
The camera is far away and therefore your articles are not seen in detail ... I'm sorry
Need to get the weight back up…..
Wow, it occurs to there was a time when I had that opinion too😆
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