@@allarfckingdeem There are many who know that without you Chad Summerchild faced certain defeat. The King won't give you any honors, the histories won't mention you, but we will not forget.
Hahaha I knew vaguely that was a character from ASOIAF but didn't remember him, had to check and he is just a cronie of Janos Slynt. Pretty funny how you took such a random minor character from the books as your persona. Most use more iconic characters with a twist. Like calling themselves Dunk the Drunk or Goldenhand the Just, names that book characters thought/mentioned at some point but don't really matter so far despite being memorable.
"...leading to their team losing to a potentialy grand upset against the University of Chicago. Which, by the way, is my alma mater." So, Preston, does that make you the George R. R. Martin's archnemessis? OMG, EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW!
Sounds a lot like someone is going to overdose on sweetsleep to keep their consciousness in the past, then. Given that sweetsleep is obviously most heavily-associated with Sweetrobin, I wonder if his seizures have a temporal element to them in addition to consciousness. I guess that just makes sense if George considers time and mind to be so inextricably woven together like they are in these stories.
Honestly he loves the stories he's written so much that he very purposefully rewrites them over and over. One of the reasons we get so many crazy theories is because so many storylines are mirrors of each other.
And also probably why all of the crazy theories could be true, I just feel like he's trying to perfect the ideas he wanted to get out all along in asoiaf
George wrote a few episodes for the 80's reboot of The Twilight Zone. He used time travel in the episode "The Once and Future King". An Elvis Presley impersonator goes back in time and ends up replacing him, because the real one is impaled on his broken guitar. GRRM's trademarks are definitely there.
I lost so much care for GOT because of the stalled release on top of the disaster that is season 4 and up on the show. At least Preston has stayed consistent.
I’m just glad we’re done with that Brienne stuff. I’m not trying to trash Preston’s work because it’s great and thoughtful and offered for free, but that Brienne stuff just didn’t hit the spot for me.
I find it shameful that we don't talk enough about the high ressemblence between siege of Sveaborg and current Stannis' situation before the Battle of Snow. It has everything - the misinformation of communication and intel, the frozen lake as a major plot point, the potential mutiny, the various betrayals and so on. Martin is actually pretty much obsesed with the Sveaborg siege - "Under Siege" is not even his first story about this historical event, it's just expanded story "The Fortress", one of his first works.
I saw an interview with GRRM where he recommended the book 'Replay' by Ken Grimwood, which is about a guy who dies at the age of 44 and relives his life with all of his memories starting at age 18. I like where you are going with this video series and I think that time traveling Bran will be the central element of it.
This synopsis sounds like a thougt process most of us have had in one variation or another: 1. Wouldn't it be great to go back in time with my current knowledge? 2. I would get around this entire awkward problem of puberty. 3. Abusing the gift of maturity feels extremely creepy with a strong hint of illegal. 4. Ok, let's say we go back until we're 18, just to avoid that.
The reason "Under Siege" is about the Siege of Viaborg is because George R. R. Martin had written a straightforward short story about the siege (titled "The Fortress") for a history magazine in college. He was reusing old material with a new framing.
For years, I always loved how you dissect A Song of Ice and Fire. Such a great perspective, especially since you know so much about Martin's writing. Much more interesting and fitting than those "Jon is the secret Chosen One/hero/king/Jesus" stuff so many others do. Keep doing what you are doing, man. This is excellent. 🙂
I didn’t know GRRM also had an ‘Under Siege’ story. Anyway, Steven Seagal’s version is much more complex, sophisticated and intellectually challenging.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin maybehe did finish them but went back to the past to undo what he had done. Just like he did with asoiaf in an attempt to save us from the final seasons. Unfortunately it didn't work and only made (forced) D&D to make it up in the way they did.
So in the end Bran swallows a lethal dose of sweet sleep and dives into the past to possess and blend into the mind of the captain of the seedship to make him leave the Planetos and not engage with the hrangan minds found there?
The idea that suicide would preserve consciousness in the past evokes the adwd prologue where varamyr tries to possess the wildling right before he dies so as to preserve his consciousness in her. This is preservation over "space" rather than time, but it's substantially similar.
I suspect if you skinchange a weirwood, go back in the past, do something that prevents you from being born, your mind is still in the weirwood because it still exists (unless it go cut, unlikely for those far north). So Bran can use the protected weirwood up north as a time-traveling shelter from which he can try a bunch of different moves "safely".
This talk of Grandfather paradoxes has gotten me thinking. Did Bran make the Mad King insane? Did Bran kill his own Grandfather, Rickard, through the Mad King? You are giving us answers that only bring about more questions.
That would made no sense why would Bran kill his own Grandfather?. If you think about it, everyone play their part in this whole mess Aerys should have let Rhaegar marry Cerise, she and him would be better off.
@@sophiawilson8696 It makes no sense to us, but if it's the only way or series of events that allows men to win against the Others, and Bran seems to have little qualms about doing taboo things. Its also possible that it's an accident. That he tries to warg the Mad King in that moment, to take control of the kingdoms to better prepare for the fight to come, but fails and it causes Aerys to burn Rickard. There are lots of reasons and possibilities. I'm asking the question if there is evidence for it.
@@pomelofromchina what? I don't get you what are saying. Listen my question is who is best bet for Bran to warg into to stop his family being kill. With this storyline it could alter future.
My boyfriend read all 5 books and then watched all 8 seasons of the show just so he could watch ASOIAF theory and analysis videos with me. Mainly Preston Jacobs. Im recruiting viewers slowly but surely!
Interested to possibly learn what this implies, if anything, about the “bones of a thousand other dreamers” impaled on the spires that Bran sees in the beginning.
Interesting: chronine seems to derive from the word Chrono, which means 'time'. And Under Siege has another meaning- back before we had modern medicine, seizures were thought to be another entity 'seizing' the victim's consciousness. Which is what Bran essentially does to Hodor
Someones conciousness probably also went back in time to manipulate Georges work rate. This could be the reason behind why he hasn't finished Winds to this day.
Maybe completing ASoIaF brings about the Apocalypse and some time traveller is doing everything he can to stop that from happening. We should be happy!
I think the weirwood up north can serve as a shelter; if you alter the past and your body is never born, your mind can survive in the tree, so you can go back again and again, you can even correct it to get your body back.
Glad to find a fellow Finn enjoying Preston Jacobs videos. Now, which Tori are all Finnish PJ and GRRM fans going to meet up at to celebrate the revelation of Under Siege?
I know alot of your stuff is considered "out there" but your channel is allowing us to experience and theory craft for a story that most of us love but will probably never be finished. Your channel helps me work through this and find enjoyment in my favorite series again. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep doing the good work Preston and thank you soooooooooo much❤️
I think it's more that Bran had to orchestrate the events of ASoIaF thereby dooming almost his entire family in order to ultimately ensure a better future for Westeros.
more and more I grow to believe that the comment by the old nan that all the Brandon Starks were the same was some pretty heavy foreshadowing right in the beginning of the story. From the show we get two confirmations: the Hodor/hold the door incident and the fact that Bran is king in the end. I'm not sure Bran would literally be king by the end of GRRM's story - probably yes, he must have told that to the creators of the show - but at the very least he ends in a position of power, and that is enough already.
So GRRM’s time travel(in ASOIAF) seems to be both 1) consciousness-only 2) stable-loop, otherwise we wouldn’t see TTB until we reached the point of Bran’s journey where he became TTB and saw him going back in time (also because TTB seems to be behind putting Bran on the path towards becoming TTB) This would also make the act of traveling back in time essentially locking the free will of any past people in place, which checks out as a thing TTB would be do Also also I think any suicide of TTB will be more metaphorical than in the examples here, probably just a full merge into the Weirdwood net, barring him forever from the world of the present.
All the events in ASOIAF being controlled by a timetraveller pulling the strings...actually makes a lot of sense once you go into the events of the series, and even beyond it. There are so many times were a different outcome would have completely changed the status quo of the world. Also, when we see individual perspectives it becomes clear just how influenced people are by things they interpret as their subconscious. I mean Aerys II wouldn't even exist unless Daeron had a weird dream about Dunk killing one of his family.
If were Bran I would warned Ned not go with Robert to be Hand of the King. Or better yet he should climb those stairs and crown himself KING. Not Robert!.
How is that? Daeron told Duncan about the dream. Him killing a dragon. It was indirectly link to him, it really Aerion Brightflame who cause the whole mess.
@@sophiawilson8696 True. Buuuuuuuut Dunk would've never been involved in that mess, unless he'd met and teamed up with Egg, and that would have never happened if Daeron hadn't had that dream and decided to keep him and Egg as far away from the tourney as possible.
15:46 That makes me so happy for some reason! It feels so relevant somehow, it sometimes feel like you're having our author's story figured out better than Martin himself does and he's written himself into a corner or killed that character which apparently has made the story impossible to finish or whatever so he's now trying to rewrite stuff so it fits but it never comes together properly. Meanwhile you/your alma mater like keep on winning or whatever.
That botched chess move being like Martin killing off that character too early, but even having changed the story a bunch of times making it longer and longer than he had planned doesn't really make it work. I'm more and more starting to hope we will get you to finish the story for him. Ebrose surely remembers Samwell as a good student that even managed to heal Jorah’s advanced Greyscale without infecting himself or others in the process of the Dead marching on the wall in the first place and the small ones got in anyway so it was a good improvement for the new King’s personal Maester and the small ones got in anyway and they were laughing because you couldn't have fun with them. I just got "Ebrose" as a suggestion so I clicked on it and started clicking on the first suggestion just to see where it got me before it started looping. I'm writing way to much about AsoIaF/GoT on this phone lol
Some people have thought that Bran decades earlier tried to warn Aerys about the white walkers coming by whispering in Aerys ear "burn them all" but Aerys misinterpreted the message, in turn it drove Aerys into madness and instead of him preparing for the white walkers he turned on his people and started burning them.
@@arditd7724 isn't there a saying that everytimea targaeryen is born, the gods throw a coin? implying that they sometimes are sane and sometimes not. i always interpreted that as proof that they are indeed inbred with all the consequences
If I was GRRM I would be simultaneously very pleased with the fact that I had such a dedicated fan in Preston Jacobs, who actually read most if not all my long catalog of material, and remembered it all and all the overlapping themes, but also very annoyed that Preston keeps giving away all my plot twists!
I mean if you leave people more than a decade in between books to analyse every tiny detail of your material they will obviously work things out sooner or later.
Well, continuing my eternal crusade on time travel here's what I have gathered: Even if you can change a timeline by using drugs and technology to swim in the pool of nostalgia and regret, you don't really change anybody's future other than killing your own. P.S.: as a Russian I never heard of the siege of Sveaborg. I guess I will check it out, thanks.
Maybe timetravel is just a paradox and should just be used in "time-travel" stories, where ignoring the paradoxical nature is part of the premise of the movie (Terminator, Back to the Future). Putting it anywhere else just leads to either confusion/incoherent story (DBZ, Endgame, Harry Potter: Cursed Child) or a cop-out (Prisoner of Azkaban, MCU if we take the two Infinity saga films as "one story", any/most "flashpoints", Superman). All examples of the top of my head. If you have a story where focus and stackes lie somewhere totally different, the introduction of time travel later on basically undermines ANYTHING that has happened up to that point.
I don't think that much about GOT anymore, so I really don't have any idea about why I like your videoes, but somehow i get really exited when i see a new one.
Maybe Bran isn't the first one to do this. If you remember from the first Dunk & Egg book, when Targaryen's see dragons in their dreams, the dragon is actually another Targaryen. And Daenerys sees "the dragon" in her dream in the dothraki sea. What if a Targaryen has been in the weirwoods for some time and has been changing the past for some time and Bran is meant to counter him?
Preston. Dude. I would NEVER have dabled in any of GRRM's other works, so I really appreciate you going to such lengths to link his themes in other works back to ASoIaF ♥ These time travel ideas in particular are super interesting, both for Bran purposes and for just general interest in different takes on time travel.
"...and not wanting to leave his girlfriend with his dead body." If only more people were this considerate, the world would be an even sweeter place than it already is. Excellent video PJ!
So I understand, there's gonna be a new asoiaf book out soon, smth with 'Winter' in the title. Can anyone tell me when exactly and hiw to preorder? Will I receive it before christmas? It shall be a gift for someone. Thanky!
Hi Preston, are you in Taiwan now or still settling? I am happy that part 2 came out. I was thinking maybe you will not have enough time to do a video. Great work!
Wait so maybe when Tyrion experienced the repeated bridge of dreams maybe it was someone going back in time to create a new variation in which JonCon got greyscale?? Just a thought
This really makes me want to write a story about a total narcissist who builds a time machine to go back in time to another dimension with the sole purpose of killing Hitler as a deconstruction of the "If I had a time machine, I'd go back in time to stop Hitler" paradox. He knows that he will still be a nobody in our dimension and nothing will change in our timeline because of the grandfather paradox, but he can go to another dimension and become a world hero for stopping WW2, the Holocaust, and possibly preventing the Cold War based on knowledge he gained living in our world. But then his intentions and true identity come to light as the story goes on: He doesn't do it to stop a genocide or prevent a war, he does it simply because he wants people to kiss his ass and stroke his own ego. He wants people to adore him because he did "the right thing" and spared the world decades of political and cultural turmoil. He wouldn't want to commercialize the time machine because then everyone could be a hero in their own dimensions and alternate timelines. And if the luster of being a world hero wears off, he can just keep skipping around to get that high back by doing other things and making other realities. Stopping 9/11, saving JFK, saving Sharon Tate and stopping the Manson Murders, exposing the Zodiac Killer's identity, etc. Just random events in history that he can alter to seem like an altruist who wants to do good, but in reality he just wants to reap the benefits of the work of other people and knowledge of the future he could never hope to capitalize on in our timeline. He keeps chasing the high of being a hero, he begins doing reckless things to get attention. Eventually, he dies in one of these timelines far in the past in a timeline he never changed anything in. Just a John Doe with a funny little machine nobody knows what it actually does. He can technically die knowing he did good deeds in other worlds and timelines, but to us he was just some guy who went missing and has a cold case file in his town's police station. And it opens up a bunch of cans of worms on the issues like "If he actually did stop Hitler for the sole purpose of becoming famous, is he a good person?" and "If he changes events in another dimension, does it really change anything since he's the only one of us who knows he did it?" And hell, we don't even know if his time machine tapped into a multiverse scenario or if it created a carbon copy of our universe that wouldn't have existed if his ego wasn't so massive. He keeps creating scenarios where people continue to suffer and die and he swoops in and puts an end to exactly one issue plaguing the world before leaving to do it all over. Sure, he stopped the Holocaust, but he didn't end the Indian Famine or end the Japanese Occupation of China or outright prevent the Cold War. He just wanted to be the guy who killed Hitler before moving on to another single issue in another world.
@manband20 I'm not sure how this could work. Kill Hitler when he was a child? That would certainly change a lot, it might even be enough to prevent fascists from taking over Germany, but your protagonist would only be a hero in his own mind, and he'd be seen as a child murderer by everyone else. Kill Hitler after he became a far-right politician, but before he seized power? Again, your protagonist would just be seen as a murderer. Kill Hitler after he became the dictator of Germany, but before the war started? Well, I'm sure some people would be relieved about it, but the protagonist would still be considered a murderer. Just imagine someone had killed Trump during his presidency - would we celebrate the murderer as a hero? I don't think so, even though Hitler and Trump are so similar in their personalities it's genuinely scary. Hitler would have to be killed, then, after the war started. Would his death be enough to stop the war? Hitler had a lot of enablers that were just as convinced of fascist ideology, so while it would certainly hurt the Nazis' morale, the war would continue for a while. And keep in mind Hitler was a lazy drug addict - it's not inconceivable that someone else could do a "better" job at waging the war. Though admittedly, the Allies would consider your protagonist a hero at this point. That said, the assassination would still be perceived as only one of many things that ended the war, and I'm not sure a shiny medal from the American government is the hero-worship you're envisioning for your protagonist. Same goes for 9/11 and stopping the murder of JFK. It would be incredibly difficult to pull these things off in a manner that lets other people know what almost happened. Each catastrophe would have to be stopped at just the last minute. And even then, I'm not convinced people would realise just how significant the prevention of these things was. I mean, just consider Vasili Arkhipov. That man is an absolute HERO, and most people have never even heard of his story. And even when you know about him, it's hard to grasp just how much we have to thank him for. Tldr: I don't think killing Hitler would make your protagonist famous, hence, it would be utterly unfulfilling to a narcissist.
This is very, very, good. I like story of the character of going back to time to 1857 very interesting. The Civil War was long time coming, it one first blood bath. The President at the time was not hard enough against the South.
Want to point out something from 14:31. "The past and the present and the future are not contemporaneous" sounds like someone describing the eternalist view on time. Anybody familiar with the Fate/ series should understand. In that verse, all time and all its variations have occurred already. In other words, the future has already occurred and can have effects on the past and present. That is how a future variation of a present character travels through time with the intention of killing his past self. Warhammer 40k is another fictional universe that plays around with the eternalist view on time. Specifically, things in the Warp understand time differently and are able to exist before coming into existence. Admittedly the mechanics and the full implications are rarely, if ever, given to individuals in the universe.
How often does Bran get called Brandon? On top of that, how often does anyone think about themselves as their full name? (Bran’s Timetraveling weirwood dream, last vision with Coldhands being made).
Ya know Preston some people think your intro is too long. I mean who doesnt like 30 seconds of royalty free content? Joking. You’re a fucking genius and i love your videos
So the nature of time travel is potentially that you have to die in the present in order to linger and actually change the past. Hmm... what is the worst possible thing Bran could do to affect the timeline in that case? Bran = Rhaegar confirmed, let’s make Rhaegar and Lyanna and even grosser relationship than it already is!
Uuuhhhh I can’t wait for morning, when my husband wakes up and I tell him that Preston mentioned a Finnish war :) my husband hates Preston, just because I love him so much, but my husband is Finnish and Finnish people love hearing Finland being mentioned… can’t wait to see the conflict in his eyes 👀
@@duganrocks100 he hates PJ because he’s jealous…. It’s been many years that I’ve been obsessed and hear his videos on loops to sleep… Mr husband rolls his eyes :(
The Me and Bobby McGee fun fact hits hard. That was my grandma's song she'd always sing at the top of her lungs. she also died of a heroin overdose. I'll have to give it a read.
So shadows are associated to the future, huh? This could mean that Stannis' shadow/counciousness seized Brienne and made her kill Renly. Since she has giant genes she would make a good host for telepaths, just like Hodor.
These videos coming out are now more exciting than I felt when actual Game of Thrones aired from season 5 onward. I'm more excited about these videos than Winds of Winter lol
Damn, the concept of timetripping has so much potential... it reminds me of Lovecraft's story "An abyss in time" about ancient beings that launch their minds to the future and invade those of modern-day people to learn about us
Considering Bran in control of timelines has made me rethink the Knight of the Laughing Tree. A Bran (or even Lyanna via dreams by Bran) controlled teenage Hodor could fit the description of the knight right? Shorter than a man, but much taller and stouter than a boy, ill-fitting armor, booming voice… Plus GRRM would of course play the narrative of Jojen, Bran, and Meera talking about the Knight, while the knight is standing right there next to them.
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Someone changing the past through time travel is probably also the reason why no one remembers my pov chapters from adwd.
I remember. The North Remembers. Allar Deem is the Stallion Who Mounts the World.
@@domsquared9878 the prince who was promised but barely rememberd.
@@allarfckingdeem There are many who know that without you Chad Summerchild faced certain defeat. The King won't give you any honors, the histories won't mention you, but we will not forget.
Hahaha I knew vaguely that was a character from ASOIAF but didn't remember him, had to check and he is just a cronie of Janos Slynt. Pretty funny how you took such a random minor character from the books as your persona. Most use more iconic characters with a twist. Like calling themselves Dunk the Drunk or Goldenhand the Just, names that book characters thought/mentioned at some point but don't really matter so far despite being memorable.
Deeds unsung are no less great. Didn’t you die though
"...leading to their team losing to a potentialy grand upset against the University of Chicago. Which, by the way, is my alma mater."
So, Preston, does that make you the George R. R. Martin's archnemessis?
OMG, EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW!
I'd like to see a chess match between Martin and Preston.
@@Vossenator This UA-cam channel is basically Preston trying to defeat Martin by decoding his strategy.
Sounds a lot like someone is going to overdose on sweetsleep to keep their consciousness in the past, then. Given that sweetsleep is obviously most heavily-associated with Sweetrobin, I wonder if his seizures have a temporal element to them in addition to consciousness. I guess that just makes sense if George considers time and mind to be so inextricably woven together like they are in these stories.
horse.. takes sweetsleep… goes back to tyrek… it all makes sense
This means Bran can stop the HBO Game of Thrones show from ever being produced
The original ending was good, but thanks to time traveling Bran... He rewrote history so he'd be king and fucked the continuity in the process.
@@BudravenOG lol
But then if the show wasn't ever produced Bran wouldn't have been able to back to....... oh god
Not ideal
But can he go back and make this joke land?
I love it when you make comparisons to his other works, you really see the influence of his past works on ASOIAF
Honestly he loves the stories he's written so much that he very purposefully rewrites them over and over. One of the reasons we get so many crazy theories is because so many storylines are mirrors of each other.
Preston is like the only person I know who realizes George RR Martin has a 30 year writing career before he even started on Game of Thrones.
This is probably what I most enjoy about Preston's ASOIAF analysis and theories, and what probably got me hooked in the first place.
And also probably why all of the crazy theories could be true, I just feel like he's trying to perfect the ideas he wanted to get out all along in asoiaf
Some people have fits if you use his other books for your ASOIF theories, silly as those people are they are in the majority on youtube.
George wrote a few episodes for the 80's reboot of The Twilight Zone. He used time travel in the episode "The Once and Future King". An Elvis Presley impersonator goes back in time and ends up replacing him, because the real one is impaled on his broken guitar. GRRM's trademarks are definitely there.
It was like waiting for winds of winter. Much relieved it’s here
Except that it arrived
Preston is going to finish all his series before Winds of Winter comes out
I lost so much care for GOT because of the stalled release on top of the disaster that is season 4 and up on the show. At least Preston has stayed consistent.
I’m just glad we’re done with that Brienne stuff. I’m not trying to trash Preston’s work because it’s great and thoughtful and offered for free, but that Brienne stuff just didn’t hit the spot for me.
@@jrbowler84 I actually agree with you on that, mostly because she’s one of my least favorite protagonists. Mary Sue in armor.
I love the fact you renamed the noseless dwarf as Tyrion, lmao.
I find it shameful that we don't talk enough about the high ressemblence between siege of Sveaborg and current Stannis' situation before the Battle of Snow. It has everything - the misinformation of communication and intel, the frozen lake as a major plot point, the potential mutiny, the various betrayals and so on.
Martin is actually pretty much obsesed with the Sveaborg siege - "Under Siege" is not even his first story about this historical event, it's just expanded story "The Fortress", one of his first works.
The Gibraltar of The North.
Also, Suomenlinna.
Well, it was a monumental treachery by the ”man whose name shall not be named”
Source: I’m swedish
@@Myth-zd6ko Literally the best thing that happened in Finnish history.
shameful is a strong word
What's your thoughts on how Stannis' story is going to go in Winds?
I saw an interview with GRRM where he recommended the book 'Replay' by Ken Grimwood, which is about a guy who dies at the age of 44 and relives his life with all of his memories starting at age 18. I like where you are going with this video series and I think that time traveling Bran will be the central element of it.
This synopsis sounds like a thougt process most of us have had in one variation or another:
1. Wouldn't it be great to go back in time with my current knowledge?
2. I would get around this entire awkward problem of puberty.
3. Abusing the gift of maturity feels extremely creepy with a strong hint of illegal.
4. Ok, let's say we go back until we're 18, just to avoid that.
@@DrZaius3141 lol, I've had that #3 realization. I'd be happy going back just 20 years. Buy some Bitcoin, Apple stock... Take better care of myself...
I wish I could travel back in time to watch all of Prestons videos for the first time all over again
You did but you had to forgot the traveling back part or it would have ruined the experience
The reason "Under Siege" is about the Siege of Viaborg is because George R. R. Martin had written a straightforward short story about the siege (titled "The Fortress") for a history magazine in college. He was reusing old material with a new framing.
I'm hoping this gets rolled into Preston's future arguments for George recycling his works for song of ice and fire
For years, I always loved how you dissect A Song of Ice and Fire. Such a great perspective, especially since you know so much about Martin's writing. Much more interesting and fitting than those "Jon is the secret Chosen One/hero/king/Jesus" stuff so many others do. Keep doing what you are doing, man. This is excellent. 🙂
I love those videos too. But maybe its time to explore other works.
Wait so your telling me Bran-9000 was on the grassy knoll.
He was flying on UA 93,
That shadow in the footage it was probably he ...
Queen in the North!
I didn’t know GRRM also had an ‘Under Siege’ story. Anyway, Steven Seagal’s version is much more complex, sophisticated and intellectually challenging.
It's too bad GRRM never finished his versions of Above the Law and Out for Justice.
Anybody seen Richie?
Huh?
Anybody know why he clipped Bobby Lupo?
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin maybehe did finish them but went back to the past to undo what he had done. Just like he did with asoiaf in an attempt to save us from the final seasons. Unfortunately it didn't work and only made (forced) D&D to make it up in the way they did.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin don't forget Marked for Death too!
It also has more of a focus on cake, interestingly enough.
So in the end Bran swallows a lethal dose of sweet sleep and dives into the past to possess and blend into the mind of the captain of the seedship to make him leave the Planetos and not engage with the hrangan minds found there?
Bran goes back to build The Wall, and someone else becomes king of Westeros.
@@alanpennie8013 Imagine if Brandon the Builder becomes king lmao.
Seedship?.
@@sophiawilson8696 yep, the red comet :)
You mean the abandoned seedship of the long-defunct Federal Empire's Ecological Engineering Corps? Oh, everybody knows about that.
The idea that suicide would preserve consciousness in the past evokes the adwd prologue where varamyr tries to possess the wildling right before he dies so as to preserve his consciousness in her. This is preservation over "space" rather than time, but it's substantially similar.
I suspect if you skinchange a weirwood, go back in the past, do something that prevents you from being born, your mind is still in the weirwood because it still exists (unless it go cut, unlikely for those far north). So Bran can use the protected weirwood up north as a time-traveling shelter from which he can try a bunch of different moves "safely".
The Wilding Girl got posses by the Ice People. Not if she killed herself or not.
It's a good day whenever Preston uploads.
This talk of Grandfather paradoxes has gotten me thinking. Did Bran make the Mad King insane? Did Bran kill his own Grandfather, Rickard, through the Mad King? You are giving us answers that only bring about more questions.
That would made no sense why would Bran kill his own Grandfather?. If you think about it, everyone play their part in this whole mess Aerys should have let Rhaegar marry Cerise, she and him would be better off.
@@sophiawilson8696 It makes no sense to us, but if it's the only way or series of events that allows men to win against the Others, and Bran seems to have little qualms about doing taboo things. Its also possible that it's an accident. That he tries to warg the Mad King in that moment, to take control of the kingdoms to better prepare for the fight to come, but fails and it causes Aerys to burn Rickard. There are lots of reasons and possibilities. I'm asking the question if there is evidence for it.
@@ethankendall9499 ok you have point. Let me ask you this if Bran was going to this who would the best bet? I would say his Father.
@@sophiawilson8696 and than the Dornish would be dismissed again!
@@pomelofromchina what? I don't get you what are saying. Listen my question is who is best bet for Bran to warg into to stop his family being kill. With this storyline it could alter future.
My boyfriend read all 5 books and then watched all 8 seasons of the show just so he could watch ASOIAF theory and analysis videos with me. Mainly Preston Jacobs. Im recruiting viewers slowly but surely!
I hope you've married that man by now.
As good as the books are on their own, ASOIAF wouldn't be what they are to me without this channel. Keep it up brutha.
In the original outline, there the wights, the Others, and "the never born", who may be those who are never born due to timeline-changing shenanigans.
Interested to possibly learn what this implies, if anything, about the “bones of a thousand other dreamers” impaled on the spires that Bran sees in the beginning.
Your comment Reminded me of the xmen episode where apocalypse collects psychics to disturb the flow of time with their combined telepathic powers
Bloodraven's river metaphor makes perfect sense if you're a salmon.
Interesting: chronine seems to derive from the word Chrono, which means 'time'. And Under Siege has another meaning- back before we had modern medicine, seizures were thought to be another entity 'seizing' the victim's consciousness. Which is what Bran essentially does to Hodor
Doesn’t Robin also suffer from seizures?
@@JNDReacts and euron well maybe not seizures but somthing poss mountain aswell
This gives the Tyrion time traveling fetus theory a whole new meaning
Someones conciousness probably also went back in time to manipulate Georges work rate. This could be the reason behind why he hasn't finished Winds to this day.
Maybe completing ASoIaF brings about the Apocalypse and some time traveller is doing everything he can to stop that from happening. We should be happy!
@@johnpotts8308 It all makes sense now!
GRRM's consciousness is currently in the past, dictating the first book to himself. It's going to take a while for him to get up to Winds.
Sweetrobin, Brandon and Chad did this at end of Season 8 Watch, they used DeLorean though.
I think the weirwood up north can serve as a shelter; if you alter the past and your body is never born, your mind can survive in the tree, so you can go back again and again, you can even correct it to get your body back.
Fuck YES! More PJ!
PJ used to mean Pearl Jam to me but now it means *Preston Jacobs*
I never knew grrm wrote something about my country, Finland. Interesting, your pronounciation of Anttinen is also quite good.
Glad to find a fellow Finn enjoying Preston Jacobs videos. Now, which Tori are all Finnish PJ and GRRM fans going to meet up at to celebrate the revelation of Under Siege?
I know alot of your stuff is considered "out there" but your channel is allowing us to experience and theory craft for a story that most of us love but will probably never be finished. Your channel helps me work through this and find enjoyment in my favorite series again. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep doing the good work Preston and thank you soooooooooo much❤️
I wonder if part of the "bittersweet" ending is that Bran changes the timeline and multiple characters end up never existing
I think it's more that Bran had to orchestrate the events of ASoIaF thereby dooming almost his entire family in order to ultimately ensure a better future for Westeros.
@@amysteriousviewer3772 good point.
Convincing Rob to marry the Westerling girl?
more and more I grow to believe that the comment by the old nan that all the Brandon Starks were the same was some pretty heavy foreshadowing right in the beginning of the story. From the show we get two confirmations: the Hodor/hold the door incident and the fact that Bran is king in the end. I'm not sure Bran would literally be king by the end of GRRM's story - probably yes, he must have told that to the creators of the show - but at the very least he ends in a position of power, and that is enough already.
One of your better intros Preston. Love to see it
The most happy part of my day is finding that there's a new Preston Jacobs upload.
Thanks for that!
For a Single Yesterday is an idea I love, George definitely shared some hobbies with Mario at some point 😂
So GRRM’s time travel(in ASOIAF) seems to be both
1) consciousness-only
2) stable-loop, otherwise we wouldn’t see TTB until we reached the point of Bran’s journey where he became TTB and saw him going back in time (also because TTB seems to be behind putting Bran on the path towards becoming TTB)
This would also make the act of traveling back in time essentially locking the free will of any past people in place, which checks out as a thing TTB would be do
Also also I think any suicide of TTB will be more metaphorical than in the examples here, probably just a full merge into the Weirdwood net, barring him forever from the world of the present.
All the events in ASOIAF being controlled by a timetraveller pulling the strings...actually makes a lot of sense once you go into the events of the series, and even beyond it. There are so many times were a different outcome would have completely changed the status quo of the world. Also, when we see individual perspectives it becomes clear just how influenced people are by things they interpret as their subconscious. I mean Aerys II wouldn't even exist unless Daeron had a weird dream about Dunk killing one of his family.
If were Bran I would warned Ned not go with Robert to be Hand of the King. Or better yet he should climb those stairs and crown himself KING. Not Robert!.
@@sophiawilson8696 I would prevent the Summerhall disaster.
How is that? Daeron told Duncan about the dream. Him killing a dragon. It was indirectly link to him, it really Aerion Brightflame who cause the whole mess.
@@YggdrasilAudio Goodpoint.
@@sophiawilson8696 True. Buuuuuuuut Dunk would've never been involved in that mess, unless he'd met and teamed up with Egg, and that would have never happened if Daeron hadn't had that dream and decided to keep him and Egg as far away from the tourney as possible.
You are the only person doing theories on this. I salute you, sir.
15:46 That makes me so happy for some reason! It feels so relevant somehow, it sometimes feel like you're having our author's story figured out better than Martin himself does and he's written himself into a corner or killed that character which apparently has made the story impossible to finish or whatever so he's now trying to rewrite stuff so it fits but it never comes together properly. Meanwhile you/your alma mater like keep on winning or whatever.
That botched chess move being like Martin killing off that character too early, but even having changed the story a bunch of times making it longer and longer than he had planned doesn't really make it work.
I'm more and more starting to hope we will get you to finish the story for him. Ebrose surely remembers Samwell as a good student that even managed to heal Jorah’s advanced Greyscale without infecting himself or others in the process of the Dead marching on the wall in the first place and the small ones got in anyway so it was a good improvement for the new King’s personal Maester and the small ones got in anyway and they were laughing because you couldn't have fun with them.
I just got "Ebrose" as a suggestion so I clicked on it and started clicking on the first suggestion just to see where it got me before it started looping. I'm writing way to much about AsoIaF/GoT on this phone lol
Preston uploads a video.
Me:
A blessing. A blessing from the lord.
Some people have thought that Bran decades earlier tried to warn Aerys about the white walkers coming by whispering in Aerys ear "burn them all" but Aerys misinterpreted the message, in turn it drove Aerys into madness and instead of him preparing for the white walkers he turned on his people and started burning them.
Or it was the generation of inbreed by his parents Jaeherys and his sister. His grandfather marry a Blackwood.
It's obviously that Valiryan descendants don't get affected by incest like everyone else so no.
@@sophiawilson8696 It could've been because of incest like everyone says. I wasn't saying the theory was cannon, just thought I'd mention.
@@arditd7724 isn't there a saying that everytimea targaeryen is born, the gods throw a coin? implying that they sometimes are sane and sometimes not. i always interpreted that as proof that they are indeed inbred with all the consequences
If I was GRRM I would be simultaneously very pleased with the fact that I had such a dedicated fan in Preston Jacobs, who actually read most if not all my long catalog of material, and remembered it all and all the overlapping themes, but also very annoyed that Preston keeps giving away all my plot twists!
I mean if you leave people more than a decade in between books to analyse every tiny detail of your material they will obviously work things out sooner or later.
Well, continuing my eternal crusade on time travel here's what I have gathered:
Even if you can change a timeline by using drugs and technology to swim in the pool of nostalgia and regret, you don't really change anybody's future other than killing your own.
P.S.: as a Russian I never heard of the siege of Sveaborg. I guess I will check it out, thanks.
Maybe timetravel is just a paradox and should just be used in "time-travel" stories, where ignoring the paradoxical nature is part of the premise of the movie (Terminator, Back to the Future). Putting it anywhere else just leads to either confusion/incoherent story (DBZ, Endgame, Harry Potter: Cursed Child) or a cop-out (Prisoner of Azkaban, MCU if we take the two Infinity saga films as "one story", any/most "flashpoints", Superman). All examples of the top of my head.
If you have a story where focus and stackes lie somewhere totally different, the introduction of time travel later on basically undermines ANYTHING that has happened up to that point.
@@matt_9112 I mostly agree with you. Only I don't consider MCU case as a time travel, but rather a hope to 4 parallel dimensions.
New material to listen to multiple times in the next few weeks. Thanks Preston.
Ever since that purple wedding video awhile back Preston has been killing it with these intros!
I don't think that much about GOT anymore, so I really don't have any idea about why I like your videoes, but somehow i get really exited when i see a new one.
I am loving these explorations of the metaphysics of consciousness. I feel like I'm back in college. How fitting.
So, which characters in the past seemed to have a sudden personality change at some point? Rhaegar? The Mad King?
All of them. 🤔
Varys hearing a voice in the flame.
You’re right. Aeron is another that seriously changed his life. I guess all divine experiences in asoiaf could have been caused by time travel.
Maybe Bran isn't the first one to do this. If you remember from the first Dunk & Egg book, when Targaryen's see dragons in their dreams, the dragon is actually another Targaryen. And Daenerys sees "the dragon" in her dream in the dothraki sea. What if a Targaryen has been in the weirwoods for some time and has been changing the past for some time and Bran is meant to counter him?
The Mad King it doesn't explain the Mad King lusting over Tywin wife?.
I get so excited when a new Preston video hits!!!
Preston. Dude. I would NEVER have dabled in any of GRRM's other works, so I really appreciate you going to such lengths to link his themes in other works back to ASoIaF ♥ These time travel ideas in particular are super interesting, both for Bran purposes and for just general interest in different takes on time travel.
Great timing Preston
"...and not wanting to leave his girlfriend with his dead body." If only more people were this considerate, the world would be an even sweeter place than it already is. Excellent video PJ!
PJ!!! Great timing! Here I go...
So I understand, there's gonna be a new asoiaf book out soon, smth with 'Winter' in the title. Can anyone tell me when exactly and hiw to preorder? Will I receive it before christmas? It shall be a gift for someone. Thanky!
LOL
You videos are always so fascinating. Thanks for reading all of GRRM’s other stories.
Your intro’s get better and better with each series
I love these videos, but they make me sadder that GRRM will never finish ASOIAF 😩
Much appreciated Preston!
Lol I love the intro. Keep up the good work.
such a great intro! thought I’d clicked the wrong video for a hot second
Hi Preston, are you in Taiwan now or still settling?
I am happy that part 2 came out. I was thinking maybe you will not have enough time to do a video.
Great work!
Wait so maybe when Tyrion experienced the repeated bridge of dreams maybe it was someone going back in time to create a new variation in which JonCon got greyscale?? Just a thought
Wow, great thought 👍
Why is important that JonCon get Greyscale?.
@@sophiawilson8696 So he can spread it when he gets to Westeros?
Fascinating. Thanks Preston
This really makes me want to write a story about a total narcissist who builds a time machine to go back in time to another dimension with the sole purpose of killing Hitler as a deconstruction of the "If I had a time machine, I'd go back in time to stop Hitler" paradox.
He knows that he will still be a nobody in our dimension and nothing will change in our timeline because of the grandfather paradox, but he can go to another dimension and become a world hero for stopping WW2, the Holocaust, and possibly preventing the Cold War based on knowledge he gained living in our world.
But then his intentions and true identity come to light as the story goes on: He doesn't do it to stop a genocide or prevent a war, he does it simply because he wants people to kiss his ass and stroke his own ego. He wants people to adore him because he did "the right thing" and spared the world decades of political and cultural turmoil. He wouldn't want to commercialize the time machine because then everyone could be a hero in their own dimensions and alternate timelines.
And if the luster of being a world hero wears off, he can just keep skipping around to get that high back by doing other things and making other realities. Stopping 9/11, saving JFK, saving Sharon Tate and stopping the Manson Murders, exposing the Zodiac Killer's identity, etc. Just random events in history that he can alter to seem like an altruist who wants to do good, but in reality he just wants to reap the benefits of the work of other people and knowledge of the future he could never hope to capitalize on in our timeline.
He keeps chasing the high of being a hero, he begins doing reckless things to get attention. Eventually, he dies in one of these timelines far in the past in a timeline he never changed anything in. Just a John Doe with a funny little machine nobody knows what it actually does.
He can technically die knowing he did good deeds in other worlds and timelines, but to us he was just some guy who went missing and has a cold case file in his town's police station. And it opens up a bunch of cans of worms on the issues like "If he actually did stop Hitler for the sole purpose of becoming famous, is he a good person?" and "If he changes events in another dimension, does it really change anything since he's the only one of us who knows he did it?"
And hell, we don't even know if his time machine tapped into a multiverse scenario or if it created a carbon copy of our universe that wouldn't have existed if his ego wasn't so massive. He keeps creating scenarios where people continue to suffer and die and he swoops in and puts an end to exactly one issue plaguing the world before leaving to do it all over. Sure, he stopped the Holocaust, but he didn't end the Indian Famine or end the Japanese Occupation of China or outright prevent the Cold War. He just wanted to be the guy who killed Hitler before moving on to another single issue in another world.
That’s an incredible idea, you should write it if you can
Yeah great idea write that book
This could definitely be a short story middle schoolers are forced to read for an English essay
@@BigDaddy_Geoff I wear that description like a badge of honor.
@manband20 I'm not sure how this could work. Kill Hitler when he was a child? That would certainly change a lot, it might even be enough to prevent fascists from taking over Germany, but your protagonist would only be a hero in his own mind, and he'd be seen as a child murderer by everyone else.
Kill Hitler after he became a far-right politician, but before he seized power? Again, your protagonist would just be seen as a murderer.
Kill Hitler after he became the dictator of Germany, but before the war started? Well, I'm sure some people would be relieved about it, but the protagonist would still be considered a murderer. Just imagine someone had killed Trump during his presidency - would we celebrate the murderer as a hero? I don't think so, even though Hitler and Trump are so similar in their personalities it's genuinely scary.
Hitler would have to be killed, then, after the war started. Would his death be enough to stop the war? Hitler had a lot of enablers that were just as convinced of fascist ideology, so while it would certainly hurt the Nazis' morale, the war would continue for a while. And keep in mind Hitler was a lazy drug addict - it's not inconceivable that someone else could do a "better" job at waging the war. Though admittedly, the Allies would consider your protagonist a hero at this point. That said, the assassination would still be perceived as only one of many things that ended the war, and I'm not sure a shiny medal from the American government is the hero-worship you're envisioning for your protagonist.
Same goes for 9/11 and stopping the murder of JFK. It would be incredibly difficult to pull these things off in a manner that lets other people know what almost happened. Each catastrophe would have to be stopped at just the last minute. And even then, I'm not convinced people would realise just how significant the prevention of these things was. I mean, just consider Vasili Arkhipov. That man is an absolute HERO, and most people have never even heard of his story. And even when you know about him, it's hard to grasp just how much we have to thank him for.
Tldr: I don't think killing Hitler would make your protagonist famous, hence, it would be utterly unfulfilling to a narcissist.
Loving the intro
This is very, very, good. I like story of the character of going back to time to 1857 very interesting. The Civil War was long time coming, it one first blood bath. The President at the time was not hard enough against the South.
Want to point out something from 14:31. "The past and the present and the future are not contemporaneous" sounds like someone describing the eternalist view on time. Anybody familiar with the Fate/ series should understand. In that verse, all time and all its variations have occurred already. In other words, the future has already occurred and can have effects on the past and present. That is how a future variation of a present character travels through time with the intention of killing his past self.
Warhammer 40k is another fictional universe that plays around with the eternalist view on time. Specifically, things in the Warp understand time differently and are able to exist before coming into existence. Admittedly the mechanics and the full implications are rarely, if ever, given to individuals in the universe.
When I least expected it, another awesome Preston video appears. Thanks Preston!
Coldhands is the Rogue Prince. Change my mind (preferably not by warging)
How often does Bran get called Brandon? On top of that, how often does anyone think about themselves as their full name? (Bran’s Timetraveling weirwood dream, last vision with Coldhands being made).
(preferably not by warging) - you just made me LOL irl. Thank you sir.
This greaves new life into the time-traveling Tyrion theory
Ya know Preston some people think your intro is too long. I mean who doesnt like 30 seconds of royalty free content?
Joking. You’re a fucking genius and i love your videos
So the nature of time travel is potentially that you have to die in the present in order to linger and actually change the past. Hmm... what is the worst possible thing Bran could do to affect the timeline in that case?
Bran = Rhaegar confirmed, let’s make Rhaegar and Lyanna and even grosser relationship than it already is!
But Bran’s already changed the past with Hodor.
Did Bran tell Jon to have sex with his aunt because he did the same to Lyanna? Nope, way too meta.
@@MissPopuri well, if you are following Preston's videos, she's not really his aunt 😜
Yes!!!! My day is complete
Another time traveling bran stories. Hell yeah
The way I like to think about time travel is that while it makes for great story premises, it makes for impossible worldbuilding
Thank you.
Uuuhhhh I can’t wait for morning, when my husband wakes up and I tell him that Preston mentioned a Finnish war :) my husband hates Preston, just because I love him so much, but my husband is Finnish and Finnish people love hearing Finland being mentioned… can’t wait to see the conflict in his eyes 👀
I hope I remember to update his reaction here tomorrow hahaha
@@derfelkardan7369 lol why does he hate Preston, cause he over analyze everything?
@@derfelkardan7369 sooo…?!?! (Just kidding)
@@duganrocks100 he hates PJ because he’s jealous…. It’s been many years that I’ve been obsessed and hear his videos on loops to sleep… Mr husband rolls his eyes :(
@@mistermaestersirthomas9164 unfortunately his hatred won, I didn’t convince him to listen to this video yet 😭😭😭
The Me and Bobby McGee fun fact hits hard. That was my grandma's song she'd always sing at the top of her lungs. she also died of a heroin overdose. I'll have to give it a read.
return of the king
Thanks, Preston! One love my G irie
So shadows are associated to the future, huh? This could mean that Stannis' shadow/counciousness seized Brienne and made her kill Renly. Since she has giant genes she would make a good host for telepaths, just like Hodor.
Very interesting video as always! I can't wait for the next part!
This and the previous series is the true big brain take on asoiaf
Preston is someone who actually made it to university of Chicago through Merit
These videos coming out are now more exciting than I felt when actual Game of Thrones aired from season 5 onward. I'm more excited about these videos than Winds of Winter lol
Damn, the concept of timetripping has so much potential... it reminds me of Lovecraft's story "An abyss in time" about ancient beings that launch their minds to the future and invade those of modern-day people to learn about us
I read all three stories. I found unsound variations was the best of them but I never considert that I can look at them to get clues for ASOIAF.
TY i live for your videos. hope you're doing well after move. stay safe
You make me so happy
And just when I was wishing to listen to something I hadn't heard from Preston to still my tumultuous mind, he appeared, as if knowing
Considering Bran in control of timelines has made me rethink the Knight of the Laughing Tree. A Bran (or even Lyanna via dreams by Bran) controlled teenage Hodor could fit the description of the knight right? Shorter than a man, but much taller and stouter than a boy, ill-fitting armor, booming voice…
Plus GRRM would of course play the narrative of Jojen, Bran, and Meera talking about the Knight, while the knight is standing right there next to them.
Yay, thanks for the upload!
what happen witth taiwan videos?
Bran is the Builder!
Back are we and
Ah, just in time before I started my assignments, I was almost not going to procrastinate
My reign is just begun 💥🔥🔥🐉🐲🐉🔥🔥💥
All hail the Bran 9000
Grateful Dead played Me and Bobby McGee for years. We all know how Georgie is with the Dead