Why The Poor Embrace Inequality | Rousseau's Second Discourse Explained

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  • @bi.johnathan
    @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +18

    Instead of ad reads, my channel is funded directly by people passionate about the Great Books. Help me keep making more episodes with a paid subscription: johnathanbi.com
    * Full transcript: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/transcript-for-rousseau-second-discourse
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    Companion lectures and interviews:
    * My lecture on Rousseau’s First Discourse: ua-cam.com/video/C8ucJ29O1kM/v-deo.html
    * Frederick Neuhouser on Self-Esteem: ua-cam.com/video/bhzg5qbXXVg/v-deo.html
    * Christopher Kelly on Heroes: ua-cam.com/video/OMwm-FbzHes/v-deo.html
    Read the Second Discourse:
    * Preferred Translation: amzn.to/3XIaMPm (affiliate)
    * My book notes: www.johnathanbi.com/p/discourse-on-the-origin-of-inequality
    * Secondary Reconstruction: amzn.to/4ekByDc (affiliate)
    * My book notes: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/rousseaus-critique-of-inequality
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00:00 0. Introduction
    00:07:10 1. The Form of Rousseau’s Argument
    00:17:09 1.1 The Form of Rousseau’s Argument: The State of Nature
    00:38:04 1.2 The Form of Rousseau’s Argument: Technology
    00:48:11 1.3 The Form of Rousseau’s Argument: Civilization
    00:56:54 1.4 The Form of Rousseau’s Argument: The State
    01:06:50 1.5 The Form of Rousseau’s Argument: Rousseau's Full Answer
    01:13:08 2.1 The Foundations of Inequality: The Abuses of Inequality
    01:25:46 2.2 The Foundations of Inequality: The Uses of Inequality
    01:42:18 3. Conclusion

    • @anjanmon
      @anjanmon 2 місяці тому

      Could you provide a source for the Rousseau quote "Citizens consent to bear chains, so they may impose chains on others in turn."?

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  2 місяці тому +2

      @@anjanmon second discourse, part II, paragraph 51: "Political distinctions necessarily bring about civil distinctions. Growing inequality between the People and its Chiefs soon manifests itself among private individuals, where it undergoes a thousand modifications according to passions, talents, and circumstances. The Magistrate could not usurp illegitimate power without creating clients to whom he is forced to yield some share of it. Besides, Citizens let themselves be oppressed only so far as they are swept up by blind ambition and, looking below more than above themselves, come to hold Domination dearer than independence, and consent to bear chains so that they might impose chains [on others] in turn ..."

    • @anjanmon
      @anjanmon 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@bi.johnathan Thanks for your reply. I appreciate the full paragraph even more.

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  2 місяці тому +2

      @@anjanmon sure. That's not the full paragraph, just the first half leading to that sentence btw.

    • @anjanmon
      @anjanmon 2 місяці тому

      @@bi.johnathan Ah no worries, found it here: www.files.ethz.ch/isn/125494/5019_Rousseau_Discourse_on_the_Origin_of_Inequality.pdf
      Couldn't find the line earlier because of the paraphrase.

  • @florianm5756
    @florianm5756 2 місяці тому +48

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      @Beissi-nb9hi Місяць тому +1

      in the comment section apparently it is.

  • @whatever13579
    @whatever13579 Місяць тому +6

    This is my 5th time watching this lecture and every time I learn something new. Oh how great Rousseau is!.

  • @SenpaiAustin
    @SenpaiAustin 3 місяці тому +168

    2 hours for free is nasty work. Thank you

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      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +96

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      @gnlapex9911 3 місяці тому +17

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    • @NgatiaAlex
      @NgatiaAlex 3 місяці тому +6

      I have an aspiration to philosophy, you such a treasure to me.Thank you

    • @wcarthurii
      @wcarthurii 3 місяці тому +4

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    • @SenpaiAustin
      @SenpaiAustin 3 місяці тому +4

      @@wcarthurii so much information had to be integrated in an almost impossible fashion for him to articulate himself so well and convey different ideas coherently. He deserves every single bit of wealth coming his way, and then some.

  • @EricLeCrennSanchez
    @EricLeCrennSanchez 3 місяці тому +99

    This is quickly becoming one of my favorite UA-cam channels.

  • @kurdonoid
    @kurdonoid 3 місяці тому +15

    You are one of the best channels on UA-cam, finding your channel has been life-changing. thank you

  • @SeKo1844
    @SeKo1844 2 місяці тому +6

    This is soo good and slow.. i like how this is not rushed..not edited so much, natural.

  • @walterwhitehead7046
    @walterwhitehead7046 2 місяці тому +5

    The is the coldest, smartest, most intelligent channel I've found on UA-cam, since Jared left Wisecrack!!! Kudos, Jonathan Bi!!!

  • @aaronaragon7838
    @aaronaragon7838 8 днів тому

    I'm 65...this young man is amazing. At my age, I need even more questions than answers.🎸

  • @LohitUchil
    @LohitUchil 3 місяці тому +33

    Man you are becoming the best Nietzsche and Rousseau lecturer on UA-cam. Would like to here more from you about other Nietzsche books in this style

  • @johntrollinski8549
    @johntrollinski8549 3 місяці тому +15

    Another treat and a real masterpiece - really appreciate it! Thank you so much for uploading!

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +4

      thank you for engaging with my work!

  • @saqh.4439
    @saqh.4439 16 днів тому +1

    Beautifully explained 👏

  • @thebestperiod3766
    @thebestperiod3766 3 місяці тому +6

    I am tired of watching American Dad on reruns because what I seek to watch on my downtime is almost impossible to find, engaging/thoughtful work. Finding your channel is a godsend, whatever you take that to mean.

  • @nadianoelcontreras1529
    @nadianoelcontreras1529 3 місяці тому +5

    2 minutes in and I'm absolutely grateful for seemingly accidentally on purpose noticing this particular video. Btw , new subscriber here and I'm just a little bit over the 2 minute mark ... Gratitude and humility are sincerely sacred and Worth the process of which it takes to arrive at gratitude. The experience of gratitude is truly divine and spot on time . From this soul's perspectives . So thank you. ✨🦋

  • @SikandarKashfi
    @SikandarKashfi 3 місяці тому +3

    Congratulations, you have become my favorite philosophy lecturer. 💛🌼

  • @dhopeyinyang4103
    @dhopeyinyang4103 2 місяці тому +1

    This was an incredibly scary/frightening and hopeful/inspiring lecture! Thank you!

  • @bncpa
    @bncpa 3 місяці тому +8

    Amazing work connecting philosophy and business. And a lot to think about with AI being a source of personal validation or even mimesis.

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +6

      Thanks! I’m working on a paper right now on this exact topic… AI and the desire for recognition

  • @Skargar
    @Skargar 3 місяці тому +3

    Looking forward to him being excellent for the next 50 years and keep documenting this legacy

  • @w1zzk1dd
    @w1zzk1dd 17 днів тому

    Thank You, My Friend!

  • @MichaelPiecyk
    @MichaelPiecyk 3 місяці тому +5

    You are the man Johnathan!

    • @Brainteaser5639
      @Brainteaser5639 3 місяці тому

      Jonathan has the spirit of Michael Sugrue in his approach to getting us underway in understanding the thinkers of the past. Check MS on "Plato" or Shakespeare's Measure for "Measure for Measure" amongst others.

  • @abf7172
    @abf7172 3 місяці тому +5

    Thankyou algorithm for pointing me in the direction of my brain itch . This was edifying

  • @amaniabdallah9572
    @amaniabdallah9572 Місяць тому

    That introduction made my morning!

  • @alexandru.marinica
    @alexandru.marinica 3 місяці тому +3

    Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts. I still refer to your lectures on Girard when attempting to entice the curious. As for your conclusions here, I am inclined to believe that an alternative, elevated path might present itself in the presence of a more holistic aproach. While I am thankful to JJ, and reluctantly identify with the benevolent Machiavellians who will push society forward, I think we might miss the forest for the trees. You said it yourself, the ones that hit it out of the park make up for all the crazy misses. How many such misses can we afford with AI? I would argue 0. One just needs to look at social media and the ongoing havock there. A reassesment of our value judgments where we take into account these personality archetypes seems like a reasonable start. My honest opinion is that we need to educate this new cohort in a way that puts the spiritual (or consciousness) on equal footing with the material and then hope that they might continue the work.

  • @adamqadmon
    @adamqadmon Місяць тому

    Over the years I've listened to many lectures, where Rousseau was frequently mentioned, and for whatever reason never really bothered to read him (tried his novels and they felt way too sentimental and outdated for my sensibilities (though I have no issue with reading really old literature, it's that barocco period specifically I think)), and he was mostly just casually mentioned in regards to his idea on the state of nature, and that's it really. Little did I know that he had such a comprehensive view on society. One could argue, I suspect, that he was the first psychologist, prior to Nietzsche? I'm astonished that the man had such an in-depth view of society and social psychology at large during his time. Thank you for rescuing Rousseau. Definitely going to read his Discourses after such a pristine & nuanced representation of his ideas.

  • @victorramirez9197
    @victorramirez9197 Місяць тому

    Thank you, this exactly what I’ve been looking for

  • @seth_khaneki
    @seth_khaneki Місяць тому

    These lectures are mind-blowing,Thank You 🙏🥷🙏

  • @ruatarengsicolneyrengsi8924
    @ruatarengsicolneyrengsi8924 3 місяці тому

    The best lecture I have heard on UA-cam. It is clear and enlightening. Thankyou.

  • @gideonocholi130
    @gideonocholi130 3 місяці тому +8

    Your work, presentation and delivery makes philosophy super interesting

  • @bardhylblinishta7473
    @bardhylblinishta7473 3 місяці тому +37

    The multitude of those praising this discourse without actually discussing any particular topic whatsoever is amazing. Let alone critique any premises or conclusions, God forbid. Let’s not make this like Instagram where all that counts is likes. Nobody cares about likes in philosophy or sociology rooms; we must care about ideas. We must talk about them.

    • @AS-gz8oe
      @AS-gz8oe 3 місяці тому +14

      Go on then....

    • @Cylantraa
      @Cylantraa 3 місяці тому

      😂​@@AS-gz8oe

    • @rubijenn
      @rubijenn 3 місяці тому

      Hear Hear!!

    • @nobodynowhere21
      @nobodynowhere21 3 місяці тому +6

      Is this some form of satire? I'm genuinely curious.

    • @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl
      @tyranmcgrathmnkklkl 3 місяці тому

      True, though. Every comment below is "Thank you!", "Great talk!". No interesting take.
      I'd give one but that's a 1.5 hr video.

  • @moviebites9636
    @moviebites9636 2 місяці тому +3

    That last line made me cry.

  • @tsm7964
    @tsm7964 3 місяці тому +2

    All of your lectures are interesting. Thank you.

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for following my work!

  • @SolCareMimi
    @SolCareMimi 2 місяці тому +1

    Not just eating. My man ATE in tweed 👌🏾

  • @ajyannotta378
    @ajyannotta378 2 місяці тому +3

    appreciate this account

  • @victorramirez9197
    @victorramirez9197 Місяць тому

    Legit 💯

  • @AkshayThakurJk
    @AkshayThakurJk 3 місяці тому +5

    Most insightful lecture!

  • @hardywolv742
    @hardywolv742 2 місяці тому

    Brilliant brilliant lecture

  • @cloudmonkeys
    @cloudmonkeys 3 місяці тому +8

    Global Social Mobility Index
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    • @nicolem889
      @nicolem889 3 місяці тому +1

      America is slipping and sliding

  • @cxa011500
    @cxa011500 3 місяці тому +15

    Some day, maybe you should give a lecture on poverty at a homeless shelter, or in some poor rural or urban area. And maybe a lecture on religious philosophy at a fundamentalist church or temple. It might be interesting to see people's reactions to ideas that they are living with and challenged by day to day.

    • @chris8535
      @chris8535 3 місяці тому +6

      He couldn’t afford the fake audience

    • @AS-gz8oe
      @AS-gz8oe 3 місяці тому +5

      Nobody better suited to speak on the hidden virtue of inequality than a guy wearing a tweed jacket making jokes about the 'barely educated'

    • @HB-ni2wv
      @HB-ni2wv 29 днів тому

      You are not homeless - you have WiFi & enough energy to think shit
      You are a keyboard warrior 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jeremiahbok9028
    @jeremiahbok9028 3 місяці тому +11

    So far this is engrossing, as always. Thank you!

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому

      thanks for following my work. Personally, I felt this started slower than both the Nietzsche and First Discourse lecture.

    • @jeremiahbok9028
      @jeremiahbok9028 3 місяці тому

      @@bi.johnathan Maybe, I didn't even notice though, I enjoyed myself. In any case, a slow start is at least preferable to frontloading the lecture with too much information so that the audience can't keep up. Thanks for responding!

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +1

      @@jeremiahbok9028 Agreed. For some books you do need a lot more build up (e.g. to explain his method) before you can even start to make sense of the insights.

  • @tsm7964
    @tsm7964 3 місяці тому +24

    This reminds me of Andrew Carnegie who believed extreme poverty forces people to hate their situation so much they work harder to get out of it.

    • @qualdatatechnologysolution4076
      @qualdatatechnologysolution4076 3 місяці тому +9

      That’s true. I had a pair of broken eye glasses but couldn’t afford new ones. I hated being in that poverty so badly, I swore it off. I now make over 200k a year.

    • @tagtraumhoch2
      @tagtraumhoch2 3 місяці тому +6

      I took another way: being OK with being poor, no children, no friends, no connections, working just 28 hours a week to have enough to eat and pay my rent. I studied and had a realisation: effort is not worth the outcome. Civilisation is not the way humanity are going to be happy.

    • @qualdatatechnologysolution4076
      @qualdatatechnologysolution4076 3 місяці тому

      @@tagtraumhoch2 ​​⁠That’s an interesting idea/point. Seems counterintuitive. I need to think about that

    • @surfbum8166
      @surfbum8166 3 місяці тому +2

      This is rubbish because it assumes that endless toil is our purpose.

    • @qualdatatechnologysolution4076
      @qualdatatechnologysolution4076 3 місяці тому

      @@surfbum8166If we aren’t toiling, either for professional, relationship, personal improvement, then what is our purpose? Because even if you admit we have another purpose, “toil” is inherent

  • @cashmoneysamuels4018
    @cashmoneysamuels4018 3 місяці тому +9

    Obviously at a certain point poverty leads to insufficient human development. You dont see progress coming from ultra unequal vountries like Brazil and abject poverty like Nigeria. A relatively high base line of development maximizes collective human potential.

    • @DrRussell
      @DrRussell 3 місяці тому

      Depends on the timeframe?

    • @femdivinemind7777
      @femdivinemind7777 2 місяці тому +2

      Both places have been exploited and destabilized by foreign influence.

  • @chrissiano82
    @chrissiano82 2 місяці тому

    This is awesome. Thank you.

  • @colinmakhubela
    @colinmakhubela 3 місяці тому +3

    My kind of slow content, epic!

  • @studentforlife9687
    @studentforlife9687 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this great lecture !

  • @Mo-xc2ku
    @Mo-xc2ku 19 днів тому

    Great job,,,,keep it up

  • @sanahalph436
    @sanahalph436 3 місяці тому +3

    Lecturer reminds me of Dr. Michael Sugrue .

  • @dipjoychoudhury
    @dipjoychoudhury Місяць тому +1

    The question of what we want is very tricky. With a day job, it isn't easy to go deep and wide in various philosophies, and you are doing significant work to make it more accessible. I am well-read in existentialism, more than an average guy if not good as an academic. I am curious if you can consider attacking these cross-functional topics from a very practical lens - I am going to blaber them...
    a) Existential Leadership In Business. How to motivate a new class of workforce. Is American positivism toxic to the extent that it suppresses authentic confrontation with a part of us? How recent traction in emotional intelligence blanket covers things and creates resistance for newer forms of leadership. Can the face of death create more earthly meaningful ways of leading that is based on authentic confrontation with the indifferent world?
    b) Questioning the "purpose" rhetorics of a businessman. Questioning the "motherland" rhetorics of a man in war. Are both arenas a platform to bring a part of a man i.e. what if there is no purpose at all. Does business mean efficiently and effectively satiating the desires of other humans? If so, why (a part of the answer is in this video, though)
    c) Lacan and Rousseau
    d) Self-Sabotage
    and so on,..,

  • @lukeshen8301
    @lukeshen8301 2 місяці тому

    Great upload. Hope you do Max Weber at some point!

  • @hn6187
    @hn6187 3 місяці тому +12

    The people who believe competition / inequality create "greatness" tend to be the administraters of the competitions, and the surrounding commentariat. In a pharma corp that's the CEO and lackies rather than the scientists.
    America is an economic force because it has the biggest military so can issue the most debt and buy the best people.
    Like Ayn Rand the presenter is pushing an open door with this argument in America. It would be more interesting to think it through skeptically.

    • @simonnilsson5356
      @simonnilsson5356 3 місяці тому +1

      Still.. the scientists create medicines that help many people. Scientists in the USA and other countries.

  • @jamesdickens1252
    @jamesdickens1252 3 місяці тому

    Wow that was very well put together😊

  • @hurric4n3ike
    @hurric4n3ike 3 місяці тому +2

    Another COOK Sesh J, great lecture

  • @ItzNim
    @ItzNim 3 місяці тому

    Aw yes, a hottie teaching me about some of my favorite subjects. ❤

  • @adrianjohn4163
    @adrianjohn4163 3 місяці тому +1

    If romantic desire is deeply tied to amour propre, what does it predict about actual relationships/love in the good state vs the powerful state?

  • @noahlenten8360
    @noahlenten8360 3 місяці тому +15

    this guy isnt even a good bullshitter. id be a way better sophist if i had rich parents sending me to the ivy league

    • @dionysian222
      @dionysian222 2 місяці тому

      Don’t hate, it’s the internet, take what you can get for free, never pay. You can learn even from a cosplay.

    • @noahlenten8360
      @noahlenten8360 2 місяці тому

      @@dionysian222 you cant though by the sounds of it

    • @dionysian222
      @dionysian222 2 місяці тому

      @@noahlenten8360 You can learn how to not be cringe.

    • @noahlenten8360
      @noahlenten8360 2 місяці тому

      @@dionysian222 xD

  • @CTRSZ
    @CTRSZ 3 місяці тому

    THESE LECTURES REALLY CHANGED HOW I THINK

  • @epectase6314
    @epectase6314 2 дні тому

    how about using this frenzy to combat inequality?

  • @pocilemon6511
    @pocilemon6511 Місяць тому +1

    1:10:06 I think the insight there is that even the building and investing of technology is not really about technology at all it's about dealing with people dealing with humans your customers your clients your investors and I think this human Centric lens I think this Amor prop Centric lens is also critical to us i

  • @gmw3083
    @gmw3083 3 місяці тому

    1:44:57 It's not just science and art. Civilizations themselves commit Sioux aside. It has always been this way and continues thusly..

  • @indigo9997
    @indigo9997 3 місяці тому

    Along with your lecture, you're clothing, and fashion are fantastic. Where do you buy your clothes, and specifically those brown blazers?

  • @JohnDorian-j7x
    @JohnDorian-j7x 3 місяці тому +1

    Heat, my boy! Heat!

  • @Thesisinxumaloblog
    @Thesisinxumaloblog 3 місяці тому

    Great lecture. 👍

  • @danioldan4189
    @danioldan4189 3 місяці тому +4

    A theoretical speech, far aside from any reality, many empirical studies show that exaggerated inequality is bad for most.

  • @marcoesteves4367
    @marcoesteves4367 3 місяці тому +8

    Inequality means Opportunities. Assymetric enviroment offers all ways of to build up strong character and strenght to suceed. But this assymetric enviroment just happens in capitalism.

    • @alo5301
      @alo5301 Місяць тому

      The lore of Meritocraty. The top 1% will never change and get richer and richer that is the truth.

  • @MiyamotoMusashi9
    @MiyamotoMusashi9 3 місяці тому +1

    What was that experiment where a bystander is jealous of a cash winner ,not accepting part of the sharing of the winning until it was 1/2 of the money?

  • @KchopraUSA
    @KchopraUSA 2 місяці тому

    How does one get to attend these in person?

  • @shermainejoseph-barnwell3269
    @shermainejoseph-barnwell3269 Місяць тому +2

    Doesnt nature justify inequality. The idea of inequality being a negative thing is skewed by man. Uniqueness is accepted and inequality is one such luck and chance but using inequality for sinful and base desires is what makes inequality a problem.

  • @guillermorojo6572
    @guillermorojo6572 3 місяці тому +3

    where are these filmed?

  • @risewithsteve
    @risewithsteve Місяць тому

    Please make a video on Philip Mäinlander

  • @allwecanseeisaboveusnow
    @allwecanseeisaboveusnow 2 місяці тому

    How can one attend this in-person?

  • @Beissi-nb9hi
    @Beissi-nb9hi Місяць тому +4

    Average American thinking he will be a millionaire.

  • @VanCliefMedia
    @VanCliefMedia 3 місяці тому +2

    Rousseau is such a nuanced writer to understand or apply, and I belive you expanded on this part of his life and writing wonderfully. Thank you for the effort.
    P.S. I sent you a message through Instagram on collaboration in some graduate studies if you'd be willing to take a look.

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +2

      Don't think I received it. what's your @?

    • @VanCliefMedia
      @VanCliefMedia 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@bi.johnathan I used my personal account @lostandlucky. I sent it to your @bi.johnathan account.
      I specifically want to build upon your concepts of Amour-propre or mimetic theory in the idea of AI governance and ethics as I feel like many professors I've been working with are missing the fundamental importance of this concept.

  • @hugooc
    @hugooc 3 місяці тому

    Kerning. Get that 'A' tucked under that 'V' for the love of the Lord!! 😊

  • @michaelmarchese3567
    @michaelmarchese3567 3 місяці тому +4

    you guys are lucky you get to hang out in this hogwarts knowledge den.. AMOUR PROPRE INTENSIFIES

  • @nunezsantiago_
    @nunezsantiago_ 3 місяці тому

    Nice video, like always.
    How we can get access to that room? I’m able to pay if it is necessary to assist to one of your talks.
    Please let me know.

  • @remipoujoulat7759
    @remipoujoulat7759 3 місяці тому +1

    Yeah this guy gets the ladies...😮 Haha great work !

  • @lightyagami6362
    @lightyagami6362 Місяць тому

    Comparative Status. People do it all the times even amongst the poorest

  • @kyanstack
    @kyanstack 3 місяці тому +1

    Please do Spinoza

  • @D13VR
    @D13VR 2 місяці тому

    I am part of the power that wills eternal evil, and works eternal good.

  • @cbbcbb6803
    @cbbcbb6803 2 місяці тому

    How do you know?
    How did he know?

  • @zacharyb2723
    @zacharyb2723 2 місяці тому +14

    This guy is so wrong on so many points I have to write a whole essay.
    If radical inequality is necessary for 'greatness', 'greatness' is overrated. The 'frenzy' might not be worth it. 'But how would we get to where we are???' - it doesn't matter. Maybe slavery was necessary at some point to 'advance' civilization. So what? We stand where we are, and can decide that inequality is no longer worth it. We keep the good, discard the bad. (Of course his whole thesis is dubious, since we have plenty of research about how inequality degrades and stagnates societies, rather than improving anything.
    He thinks vanity is the driving force of achievement, but lots of the 'achievers' he likes actually suck. Facebook and Palantir are the foundation of the American economy? wtf are you talking about man. Palantir is evil, the ambition that created it is not something we want in society.
    Real anthropologists don't agree with most of what he says, and we have overwhelming evidence that status and money are terrible for people and cause acquired narcisisstic tendencies. And that highly unequal societies have much more violence and other negative results he spends very little time on.
    Switzerland had 500 years of peace and brotherhood. If true, that's a BETTER ACHIEVEMENT than almost any other civilization. Then he counterpoints that with competition between states. Well, that's just a game theory trap - competition is bad after all! Oh and nevermind that Switzerland managed for centuries to mostly neutralize its competitors (those seeking 'greatness' at the cost of inequality). And totally And they invented complex machinery anyway. His counterpoints to this are really, really weak.
    He also casually states that American military might 'protects American and Canadian interests' - that's a HUGE claim. American military efforts have frequently destabilized the world in ways that probably harms America. He seems to be a fan of American militarism. I am not.
    I dislike even his use of 'greatness' in very vague terms without examining whether the things he talks about ARE ACTUALLY GREAT.

    • @NateGs1
      @NateGs1 Місяць тому

      1st comment I’ve seen offering discourse on his points. Thanks for sharing!

    • @LickerOfAnuses
      @LickerOfAnuses Місяць тому

      This is a good reply. Even if Machiavellian, narcissistic ambition partly brought us here, society can still discard its negative aspects once it has achieved a level of technological progress that makes life easy enough.
      Empathy was crucial when humanity was small in numbers, and it’s just as important now with 8 billion of us.
      Why isn’t empathy valued more? Why don’t we praise kindness more? I wish kindness were the most popular and potent form of status signalling.

  • @darladrury76
    @darladrury76 2 місяці тому

    Right. I do

  • @beepbeepimmadragon8758
    @beepbeepimmadragon8758 2 місяці тому +2

    Inequality is natural the problem is unnatural forms of inequality. People are naturally hierarchical and the problem isn't an elite existing but an elite being disloyal to the rest of the hierarchy.
    Anarchy is Marxism's ultimate goal but anarchy is impossible because it goes against human nature. In anarchy communities will naturally reform and trade will eventually be reestablished. People naturally look up to their older relatives and family is the best example of a natural hierarchy. Our parents take care of and guide us and older siblings went through what we went through. A society is like a family and elites are supposed to be the elders of the family.
    Equality under the law is good but beyond that it has to be forced so it's immoral. Some people are richer than others and some are better authority figures and that's okay

  • @Vandelay--Industries
    @Vandelay--Industries 2 місяці тому

    This is so good because it is all Ai sorry to have to break it you

  • @johnanderson1421
    @johnanderson1421 3 місяці тому +15

    Cartoonishly conservative. If this is your thing that's great, but there is enough of a slow walk here that some will not be aware that they are being spoon fed 'just so' arguments with an ideological bent. Also the lavish production values here aren't backed up with the necessary views to fund such a thing. So where does the money come from? I smell astroturf. Have to add that Sugrue was much more concise and to the point. Is the excessive length and wordiness one of the tools used to obfuscate the larger ideological bent?

    • @scott3802
      @scott3802 2 місяці тому +2

      I think he has links to Peter Thiel if I remember correctly.

    • @scott3802
      @scott3802 2 місяці тому +1

      They both share a interest in memetic theory

    • @peteplayz-norskgaming5723
      @peteplayz-norskgaming5723 Місяць тому

      It’s an interpretation no?

  • @StephenDix
    @StephenDix 2 місяці тому

    The guy in shorts must be the lighting tech 😆

  • @jakelong6860
    @jakelong6860 2 місяці тому +1

    Why rich embraces greed do that one next while you're at it.

  • @63302426
    @63302426 3 місяці тому +2

    I want you to go through all the good books!

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +2

      i want me to go through all the good books too

  • @individualm6712
    @individualm6712 2 місяці тому

    European culture is fascinating and brutal. Wow.

  • @DrRussell
    @DrRussell 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic presentation, but missing the fact that an entire country was taken from the indigenous. Does might make right? Time will tell.

  • @femdivinemind7777
    @femdivinemind7777 2 місяці тому +3

    Thats such bullshit😂 the way rivh people gaslight themselves is funnyy

  • @lmaozedong2153
    @lmaozedong2153 2 місяці тому +3

    Lecturers just like the sound their own voice, they lecture not to be productive, but to make themselves feel like they are smarter than their audience.

    • @Ggianni10
      @Ggianni10 2 місяці тому +1

      So who lectures to be productive then?

    • @lmaozedong2153
      @lmaozedong2153 2 місяці тому

      @@Ggianni10Pick yourself up by your bootstraps, figure it out yourself.

    • @spencer3039
      @spencer3039 Місяць тому

      Hey if your iq isn’t that high thats ok try to follow along but don’t make pre judgments if you can’t iterate how you perceived the points that were made

  • @thevet2009
    @thevet2009 3 місяці тому +2

    I think the commentator wore a path in the carpet walking back and forth. And little heavy on the dramatic mannerisms too.

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  3 місяці тому +3

      Was trying to get my steps in!

    • @DrRussell
      @DrRussell 3 місяці тому

      I see what you mean but aren’t we surrounded by those who do not care for their work? Prefer over enthusiasm in that context.

    • @thevet2009
      @thevet2009 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DrRussell Over enthusiasm is a red flag of sorts...deserves to be scrutinized a little more.

    • @thevet2009
      @thevet2009 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DrRussell I understand your preference for overenthusiasm in a context where many seem disengaged, but it’s important to recognize that overenthusiasm can be misleading and even dangerous. While it may create an initial sense of energy, it can mask underlying issues and lead to unrealistic expectations.
      When enthusiasm is excessive, it often overshadows critical thinking and careful decision-making. This can result in rushed decisions or projects that lack proper planning. Additionally, it can create pressure for others to mimic that enthusiasm, leading to a culture where genuine concerns are overlooked in favor of maintaining a façade of positivity.
      Ultimately, fostering a work environment that encourages authentic engagement and constructive feedback is more beneficial. It allows for a balance between enthusiasm and accountability, ensuring that team members feel valued and heard while also striving for excellence.

    • @DrRussell
      @DrRussell 3 місяці тому

      @@thevet2009 wow. Screenshot taken, thank you for your wisdom!

  • @joshuagoodman6359
    @joshuagoodman6359 22 дні тому

    Everyone, it's private property time! Let's go! 58:29

  • @CramRockets
    @CramRockets 3 місяці тому +2

    Yo!

  • @Luke-z2l
    @Luke-z2l 2 місяці тому +1

    Masters love their whips

  • @JaneScharf-e6d
    @JaneScharf-e6d 2 місяці тому

    You have completely misunderstood his theory. His theory is that our nature is social and cooperative when we live naturally. When we live in a society it perverts where we are not in nature we become aggressive and seek to be higher in the hierarchy.

  • @JamesBarry-j7m
    @JamesBarry-j7m 2 місяці тому +3

    Capitalism isn't the cure all for everything

  • @danielnyongesa7541
    @danielnyongesa7541 Місяць тому

    Amour prop and Decidua...new french words

  • @toughbiblepassages9082
    @toughbiblepassages9082 3 місяці тому +9

    I tried listening to this guy because it would be nice to learn these philosophical ideas.. but he talks as if he’s performing in a thespian club, and I can only hear him with cynicism.

    • @ChadHowarth
      @ChadHowarth Місяць тому +2

      Perhaps this was just your opportunity to use thespian in a sentence 😉

  • @curious_one1156
    @curious_one1156 3 місяці тому

    Light Yagami, without the Death Note.