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  • An interview with Robert Pippin on Nietzsche, Technology, and Nihilism.
    Some links to further guide your study:
    * Join my email list to be notified of future episodes: greatbooks.io
    * Full transcript: open.substack....
    Companion lectures & interviews:
    * Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Morality: • Masters vs. Slaves | N...
    Professor Pippin's Book (affiliate)
    * Nietzsche, Psychology, and First Philosophy: amzn.to/4bEvp2W
    * My book notes: open.substack....
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00:00 0. Introduction
    00:02:55 1. What is Nihilism
    00:20:24 2.1 The Causes of Nihilism: The Wrong Kind of Truth
    00:37:13 2.2 The Causes of Nihilism: Deficiency of Self-Contempt
    00:43:53 3.1 The Solutions to Nihilism: Self-Overcoming
    00:50:55 3.2 The Solutions to Nihilism: Literature Over Philosophy
    00:56:54 3.3 The Solutions to Nihilism: The Ideal of Montaigne
    01:01:32 4. Nietzsche's Failure to Overcome Nihilism

КОМЕНТАРІ • 84

  • @bi.johnathan
    @bi.johnathan  Місяць тому +9

    An interview with Robert Pippin on Nietzsche, Technology and Nihilism.
    Some links to further guide your study:
    * Join my email list to be notified of future episodes: greatbooks.io
    * Full transcript: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/transcript-for-robert-pippin-interview?r=2mzsg
    Companion lectures & interviews:
    * Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Morality: ua-cam.com/video/M0w2eQ-FcEA/v-deo.html
    Professor Pippin's Book (affiliate)
    * Nietzsche, Psychology, and First Philosophy: amzn.to/4bEvp2W
    * My book notes: open.substack.com/pub/johnathanbi/p/nietzsche-psychology-and-first-philosophy?r=l66v&
    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00:00 0. Introduction
    00:02:55 1. What is Nihilism
    00:20:24 2.1 The Causes of Nihilism: The Wrong Kind of Truth
    00:37:13 2.2 The Causes of Nihilism: Deficiency of Self-Contempt
    00:43:53 3.1 The Solutions to Nihilism: Self-Overcoming
    00:50:55 3.2 The Solutions to Nihilism: Literature Over Philosophy
    00:56:54 3.3 The Solutions to Nihilism: The Ideal of Montaigne
    01:01:32 4. Nietzsche's Failure to Overcome Nihilism

  • @henri.r94
    @henri.r94 Місяць тому +49

    this is the kind of cinematography that Philosophy deserves

    • @Wingedmagician
      @Wingedmagician Місяць тому +1

      love this comment 🎞️ 🎥

    • @jw6487
      @jw6487 16 днів тому

      philosophy*

    • @jw6487
      @jw6487 16 днів тому

      With a ‘p’ not a ‘P’

  • @mrmoeezali
    @mrmoeezali 25 днів тому +7

    These conversations are what I LIVED for. I've missed this ever since I graduated and got busy in real life. I would love to connect with you if possible and discuss philosophy! These videos are on repeat in my headphones everyday now. They are food for my soul.
    With so much garbage on youtube, I am so grateful to have found your channel.

    • @Mageuzichannel
      @Mageuzichannel 12 днів тому

      Johnathan B have you ever read Max Stirner? Given your devotion to dedicating yourself to a passion?

  • @IFGODWILLSIT
    @IFGODWILLSIT Місяць тому +33

    Babe wake up, new Jonathan Bi video dropped.

  • @thelogosembodied
    @thelogosembodied Місяць тому +6

    I'm a 20 year old undergrad student studying computer science, and llike Jonathan, I've become disillusioned with my probable career path.
    This lecture has truly been eye-opening to me because it is the first time that I've truly engaged with Nietzsche's ideas. I've taken over a page of notes so far and there is a lot that I have to think about.
    Jonathan, I think these videos and lectures are awesome and I look forward to more, especially on Nietzsche!

    • @muz1658
      @muz1658 Місяць тому +1

      If you want to truly engage with Nietzsche's ideas, you would do much better off reading his books directly - or are you not capable of forming your own opinions on his philosophy?

    • @CramRockets
      @CramRockets 22 дні тому

      You sound gey ​@@muz1658

    • @newyorkalb
      @newyorkalb 18 днів тому

      Bro just read the books yourself lol

  • @nyeo
    @nyeo 27 днів тому +2

    It’s the first channel that I’ve come across with well spoken men. It’s refreshing

  • @Lennyviews_official
    @Lennyviews_official Місяць тому +4

    Thank you sir for uploading such deep high quality content, surely would love to see more of Nietzsche from your perspective ❤

  • @mistahrhee
    @mistahrhee Місяць тому +3

    Incredible work. My favorite interview yet. Keep it up.

  • @daniellewis5473
    @daniellewis5473 Місяць тому +5

    thank you for this elite content

  • @katiefischer8094
    @katiefischer8094 Місяць тому +2

    Stunning background (visual)! Also I appreciate your take on this topic.

  • @bArda26
    @bArda26 12 днів тому

    thank you for the well produced episode, nice conversation. Please continue making videos about Nietzsche and maybe some Baudrillard!

  • @ProdigalExplorer
    @ProdigalExplorer Місяць тому +1

    Keep it up Jonathan. These videos satisfy a thirst I did not know I had.

  • @SiphepheloZondi-xd2ux
    @SiphepheloZondi-xd2ux Місяць тому +2

    It's 17:50 pm here in South Africa ❤thank you sir.

  • @regstrength
    @regstrength Місяць тому +5

    Tremendous channel 👍

  • @danielcallcut1877
    @danielcallcut1877 24 дні тому +1

    Thank you for making and sharing this. Listening to Pippin's later remarks in the conversation, about Hegel and against Nietzsche, made me think of Bernard Williams's similar observations: We "need each other" as Williams memorably put it in Truth and Truthfulness, "in order to be anybody." It's also fascinating to hear Pippin say so emphatically that the true problem isn't nihilism, it's global capitalism; I didn't expect such an unequivocal embrace of the view that the apparent philosophical problem is in reality merely a social one. I'm tempted to say that Pippin's resignation to the idea that all we can do is preserve is itself a symptom of nihilism. (Final thought: perhaps you might interview Miranda Fricker or Sophie Grace Chappell or Nikhil Krishnan or Vlad Vexler on Bernard Williams.)

  • @tibinjohn8752
    @tibinjohn8752 Місяць тому +1

    Heck yes, getting this notification made my week - don’t stop!!

  • @Brahmsian
    @Brahmsian Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for introducing me to Mr. Pippin and his work.

  • @bryanutility9609
    @bryanutility9609 Місяць тому +1

    Love it how the professor says he didn’t become famous for the right reason, but Nietzsche actually predicted the horrors committed in his name. He is being validated exactly as deserved in our modern era, we are half way through the nihilism timeline as he predicted.

  • @TheRavetetsei15
    @TheRavetetsei15 Місяць тому +7

    Curious to see how other people view philosophy? Jonathan said in the discussion he views it as a way to guide him towards a purpose to throw himself towards
    I’ve found philosophy to be a place of comfort in knowing the questions and concerns I have with simply existing are not unique and billions of other souls are just as curious as I am to assign values and hear how others perceive the meaning they’ve assigned to their own lives
    Being and Nothingness by Jean Paul Sartre is a book I hope Jonathan discusses in the near future

    • @aaiirssjoy
      @aaiirssjoy Місяць тому +3

      I believe it has great importance in assessing how to shift your paradigms you’re currently in in life but it doesn’t travel that road for you. Like it won’t show you in of itself how to energetically embrace life and tap into your higher/greater being. That takes natural curiosity to jump into and be brave. Realizing you don’t need to conform and that you are life itself and venturing to expand beyond current limits with intentional composed focus of course so you’re not all over the place like people are on smartphones/media addiction.

    • @Haidar-Philosophy
      @Haidar-Philosophy 23 години тому

      I tend to think of philosophy as broadly explaining reality and how it works. If I take that approach then all religions also offer interpretation of reality. So all philosophy is ultimately tested by how well it can explain our reality and help us make useful predictions. Nietzsche is only useful in the modernity context where “God is dead”. He laments the lack of purpose inherent in religions. So in our post-God world there is no single authority that explains it all. Science ultimately explains the how but not the why. And now in a globalised world all of philosophy is like a melting point which only adds to the confusion. So I think the direction of philosophy of the future is we’ll need new prophets and new revelations to make sense of the senseless.

  • @untimelyreflections
    @untimelyreflections Місяць тому +2

    Nice work, gentlemen.

  • @wolfenheimer
    @wolfenheimer Місяць тому +1

    johnathan bi is the goat for bringing this to life, my favorite way to consume philosophy.

    • @muz1658
      @muz1658 Місяць тому

      You are an intellectual slave if you think the best way to consume philosophy is to have someone tell you about the writings of a philosopher rather than just reading their works yourself.

    • @sidhantsharma9961
      @sidhantsharma9961 28 днів тому

      @@muz1658All the teachings have been doctored by the lizard people.
      The only way to consume philosophy is by going within.
      When you do this, several entities will stop you by distracting you from seeking the truth. They would inject thoughts that you would be swayed away by.
      But if you are able to push through it all, the other side holds immortality.

  • @henri.r94
    @henri.r94 Місяць тому +3

    Great interview. But can you also upload an unedited version of the interview? It seems Robert Pippin got cut short in multiple occasions when he was trying to elaborate his point and things started to get really interesting. We don’t mind the lengthiness of the interview. It doesn’t have to be completely and uniformly structured. Part of engaging in intellectual dialogue like this is its improvisation and spontaneity

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  Місяць тому +4

      Thanks for the feedback. This was indeed edited down from 2 hours to what it is now to give it more coherence. It was less so elaboration or spontaneity that was cut out and more so unrelated tangents. Regardless your point stands

    • @henri.r94
      @henri.r94 Місяць тому +1

      @@bi.johnathan Thanks for the reply. Please keep up the good work and look forward to your future contents. Always a joy to watch.

  • @avasthii
    @avasthii Місяць тому

    What an amazing channel this is. Truely Amazing.

  • @patrickroden2917
    @patrickroden2917 Місяць тому

    Gorgeous discussion, this is content worth investing time with.

  • @BecomingJP
    @BecomingJP Місяць тому

    i will be buying that book!! I have be paradoxically searching for that which inspires me enough that searching becomes irrelevant and becomes more like revelation that calls to me. I will broaden my literary tastes for a starter and see if there is anything of the underlying Gestalt that demands investigation. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Great content by the way!!

  • @BebiloB
    @BebiloB Місяць тому +1

    Mr Johnathan your video is not seen cause you thumbnail please try to change that . i love your content a lot

  • @farmpite
    @farmpite 29 днів тому +1

    Phenomenal

  • @CarlosBernard0
    @CarlosBernard0 Місяць тому

    You're videos popped after having searched for Nietzsche's the gay science. Robert Greene recommended. I like your style it doesn't feel stuffy or convoluted and that you ask questions the common person would very interesting and entertaining

  • @jw6487
    @jw6487 16 днів тому

    The only corner of western authenticity and devotion left IS Nietzsche.

  • @jw6487
    @jw6487 16 днів тому

    I’m trepidatious about listening to an old dude talk about nietzschean ideas but here I am

  • @teo11teo11teo11
    @teo11teo11teo11 Місяць тому

    Bad audio, good video, good interview

  • @buglepong
    @buglepong Місяць тому

    existential meaning lies somewhere between madness and mysticism. like its mostly just an intuition.

  • @im_that_guy
    @im_that_guy Місяць тому

    Please include the video footage in your Spotify content.

  • @foodmens
    @foodmens Місяць тому +1

    Here before this channel reaches 1 million

  • @user-bz8kz9tt8s
    @user-bz8kz9tt8s Місяць тому

    I eat this shit up for some reason. Man found a perfect Niche and is the embodiment of an educated millennial.

  • @HealthyThinkingsubstack
    @HealthyThinkingsubstack Місяць тому

    Better than scrolling for shootouts

  • @ParaSempreLuxo
    @ParaSempreLuxo Місяць тому

    Damn my bro here is cooking!! Let him cook!

  • @hanskung3278
    @hanskung3278 11 днів тому

    I'm also "desperately trying to become religious".

  • @at8981
    @at8981 10 днів тому

    Islam has a blend of eastern religious principles and also the abrahamic religions as well.

  • @jw6487
    @jw6487 16 днів тому

    And so Zarathustra began his downgoing

  • @newyorkalb
    @newyorkalb 18 днів тому +2

    Jonathan is either too full of himself or too naive. I hope the later otherwise just pity for another opportunity to do something great, dying off to the hustle culture

  • @Hugh-s7b
    @Hugh-s7b Місяць тому

    These interviews (w Pippin, Neuhouser, etc.) are excellent, but please stop interrupting your interviewees when they are mid-sentence.

  • @07bmarshall
    @07bmarshall Місяць тому

    If philosophy is a waste of our time then what should we read instead? Obviously, great literature, but which?

    • @jw6487
      @jw6487 16 днів тому +1

      Maybe nothing just do push-ups instead

    • @jw6487
      @jw6487 16 днів тому +1

      Read the idiot by Dostoevsky in between sets though

  • @user-vd1vm7cs3x
    @user-vd1vm7cs3x Місяць тому

    To Waste Existence
    I wonder,
    what shall become waste within human entities?
    As,
    said entities seek simplistic existence,
    what shall such,
    attempt to be?
    What shall become of thee?
    For,
    I wonder is waste,
    tethered to that of reality?
    Does that which the human create,
    simply exist as,
    waste?
    For,
    I wonder,
    does the simplicity of an artificial existence,
    lead only to senseless accumulation?
    To the human,
    existing absent why,
    whilst tethering oneself to creation.
    For,
    in truth,
    may we simply be beings of nature?
    To take oneself from such,
    may not only disrupt,
    but,
    of course,
    irrevocably alter the way which the human seeks.
    For,
    that which exist as artificial,
    in truth,
    simply externalizes that of the organism.
    Meaning,
    it would seem the human,
    simply seeks,
    itself.
    Rationalizing ways to exist tethered to the human,
    whilst claiming said existence is tethered to externalities.
    For,
    that of competition,
    is a simple internal existence,
    relating to that of the organisms,
    reproductive intention.
    For,
    each entity exist tethered to "Winning".
    Being,
    that which exist as a zygote.
    The forming of an entity,
    now tethered to being.
    Tethered,
    to the simplicity of,
    that which exist as,
    existence itself.
    That of replication.
    That which drives survival,
    and,
    procreation.
    Simply to exist,
    externally.
    To be that which is simply able to be.
    For,
    within that of competition,
    as it relates to the external.
    There seems to be three forms which,
    human entities continously exist tethered.
    The first,
    I would simply deem,
    "Full Cycle".
    Within that of the "Full Cycle",
    that which represents the phallic system takes the form of,
    the arm,
    the leg,
    the club,
    the bat,
    the hockey stick.
    Each existing tethered to,
    that of a deliver system.
    That which propels,
    semen as it attempts to reach the egg.
    Such an existence is represented,
    within that of the,
    ball,
    the goal,
    the net.
    The moment where procreation is actualized,
    and,
    existence begins.
    The second form of externalizing internal reproductive intention,
    one deems simply,
    the "Race" stage.
    Within such,
    there is only a race to exist as number one.
    The simplicity of being first.
    Such an existence is plainly seen within,
    of course,
    racing.
    That of nascar,
    track.
    That of,
    swimming,
    a marathon.
    Each existing tethered to the simplicity of being dynamic beings,
    seeking only to be first.
    To be that which moves,
    simply to be that which,
    exist.
    The third stage of externalizing,
    that which exist as internal,
    relating to that of the organism.
    Is,
    of course,
    existence itself.
    Within,
    that of the "Existence" stage,
    said organism seeks simplistic violence.
    For,
    there can only the one.
    One tethered to being.
    One able to exist,
    within,
    that of the egg.
    Such an existence was seen plainly in the,
    coliseum.
    Where as,
    gladiators fought to be beings.
    To be that which,
    draws breath.
    To be tethered to,
    existence.
    Of course one sees such,
    within,
    that of,
    fighting.
    That of war,
    the simplicity of conflict.
    Each and every combat situation
    essentially exist in such a way.
    As to create,
    the simplicity,
    of existence.
    I wonder,
    since such is tethered to actuality,
    what truly does the human,
    create?
    How is such an existence not tethered to waste,
    if,
    within such,
    be not,
    even a human mind?
    Not even the ability to exist as such a kind.
    For,
    of course,
    each human entity tethered to creating such realities,
    knew not of,
    why.
    For,
    all deem such to be apart of,
    human life.
    To be,
    that which matters.
    But,
    of course,
    such could never matter.
    Could never be,
    that which one deems,
    not only substantive,
    but,
    tethered to that of rationality.
    For,
    I deem all that exist,
    absent a mind.
    Absent,
    simplistic contemplation leading to immense comprehension,
    to be tethered to,
    nothing.
    Nothing but,
    uselessness.
    Nothing but,
    senseless ascension.
    Nothing but,
    a,
    wasteful,
    existence...

  • @RanmaSyaoranSaotome
    @RanmaSyaoranSaotome 28 днів тому

    Never understood the appeal of having the camera show the host nodding and listening. Strikes me as narcissism. I'd rather look at the speaker and focus on what they have to say.

    • @bi.johnathan
      @bi.johnathan  27 днів тому +1

      Narcissism notwithstanding, it’s to hide cuts in the editing process

  • @jw6487
    @jw6487 16 днів тому

    “Nietzsche would regard that as…”
    Hah!

  • @TheAmbientJournal
    @TheAmbientJournal Місяць тому +3

    Practice honesty, see past the rhetoric in media, and study Islam.

  • @Best-BBQ
    @Best-BBQ 5 днів тому

    Robert’s clear cynicism for the future, rooted in his clear hatred of trump and Nixon is telling.

  • @jw6487
    @jw6487 16 днів тому

    Neelism

  • @Asakhe346
    @Asakhe346 Місяць тому

    This guy knows how to dress🥵

  • @OceanusHelios
    @OceanusHelios Місяць тому +3

    Nihilism does not exist. It is an adjective. How long does this Nihilism last? Moments? By what criteria do you define Nihilism? Something like (insert hand waving) when nothing means anything to a singular person and he adopts that as his philosophy. This world is indeed absurd.
    Apparently, there is great meaning in nice suits, lavish old furniture and neat hair with the obligatory unread books as part of the background, and some piano music.
    Apparently if we engage with "the texts" which texts? The buy bull with the talking snake and magic apples...we can delude ourselves into saying we learned something because we now have delusions about our own delusions.
    I'm a man of science and I find "great meaning" in drinking a Pepsi and knowing that I do indeed find my carbonated high fructose infused soft beverage delightful. It means a great deal to me because I am addicted to the crap.
    Now, music has NO particular meaning whatsoever and in any way shape or form does music have a meaning on its own, but you included it in your video, didn't you?
    Where is this elusive "great meaning" and how can we word salad it into a physical manifestation?
    The meaning of my own life is very very simple to state: I want to, in some small way, some how, make this world a better place while I am on this Earth and alive. That's my meaning. That is my purpose. I need neither sky daddy nor to delude myself with pseudo intellectual nonsense in order to achieve that. So far I have saved 8 lives from near instant death or the destruction of people's lives. They are alive today because I was there and I wasn't considering the meaning of anything other than....two (separate occasions) runaway trucks, somebody choking to death, and somebody in the beginning stages of dying from hypothermia. I've put out fires before they got out of hand. I've helped my fellow human beings wherever I could.
    The "great meaningness" or "meaning" or "meaningfullness" of it all?
    It stems from a singular idea: NOBODY, BUT NOBODY rises to the top on their own, succeeds on their own, or survives on their own.
    We all need each other in order to survive.
    Any meaning we make up along the way is just entertainment within our meaty brains.
    Because the rocks will never care if we have meaning or not.
    We are here today, and someday that will change.
    The end.

    • @transformations1
      @transformations1 28 днів тому

      I agree with you - utterly everything is saturated with meaning except Pepsi, Coca Cola is better.
      When people say nihilism, I can only think of the tragedy of something like Cotards syndrome [which is extremely rare in any case] when person thinks they are dead. (Type of deluded hallucination along with confabulation)
      Otherwise, nihilistic "philosophers" have all sorts of meaningful purposes such as writing books and publishing them.
      Not to mix up nihilism with relativism, anarchy or skepticism- all quite different pathways.

  • @mohammedabohnad760
    @mohammedabohnad760 18 днів тому

    I don’t understand this man; if he is against slaves morality as he calls it weak and degrading. How come then he went mad by witnessing a beaten horse ?
    If he denies free will - all the definitions of free will - then the salves will always be as they are and never upgrade to superman. ?
    There is a distinction between not having a truth of things beyond phenomenology and to deny any truth at all.

  • @jw6487
    @jw6487 16 днів тому

    Bro is clearing imitating Peterson. He shouldn’t though, he should be his own man.

  • @davidondrejek8947
    @davidondrejek8947 9 днів тому

    oh, so going to Mars is "low minded" ... right

  • @OceanusHelios
    @OceanusHelios Місяць тому

    1:54 No. Nihilism is NOT a disease, and now you are just lying at worst, and using hyperbole at best. Weasel words like "more and more people are feeling this way" is not evidence to support your claim.
    Currently, right now, in "Modernity" there are people making the clothes you will wear in the future, and growing the food you will eat, and making things to entertain you, so let's show some gratitude because they don't get to wear nice suits and make youtube videos and pretend to be urbane and educated. (Spoiler alert, your material wouldn't even sum up a single course or even the chapter of a course on a college campus).
    Don't you think other people have thought of these things before you did? Do you somehow believe that the Victorian Era was somehow superior and the height of civilization? Which period was it that was somehow the "ideal" to which we should all miss and weap for now that it is gone? I think that maybe just maybe people idealize the past. Spoiler alert, "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best" are works of fiction and the world as portrayed in those television shows was NOT that way even during the time of production.
    People feel "disaffected" by the world they live in because maybe, just maybe, they dreamed too big and had their dreams shattered. Perhaps just perhaps somebody got the job the promotion and the acclaim they deserved because of favoritism by a faction or a church towards somebody else.
    Every single age and every single society is dystopian because NONE of them are utopian.
    Most of the video is going to be a bunch of mental masturbation because the guy lost me with his dishonest approach in the first two minutes. And I am not going to subscribe or watch the rest of it.
    Enjoy fawning over yourselves! Good luck.

    • @samuelelijahlubang9585
      @samuelelijahlubang9585 Місяць тому

      Do you also study philosophy? I'm just a teenager so I don't know much rn, I wanna know your in depth perspective on the topic

    • @isiddiqui5162
      @isiddiqui5162 Місяць тому

      Make your points without vitriol if you want to have a discussion. Maybe work on your resentment. Guest has written many books and may know something we don't know yet

    • @jw6487
      @jw6487 16 днів тому

      There is no utopian society. There is only superior men.

    • @jw6487
      @jw6487 16 днів тому

      Dude if you want my advice as a 25 year know nothing I’d say trust & act on your intentions and your instincts TODAY. If you want to be a pilot start reading books and looking for the best academy today. If you want to be jacked start eating a hefty meaty diet and doing intense workouts today. If you want to know big words like inculcate and dynasticism start reading classic novels today. Don’t wait seize your youth and your vitality. Everyday we’re only getting older but if you begin your ascend, your inward journey, your life adventure NOW you will be something quite formidable come your 20s 30s whatever. And be formidable today by choosing life and beauty and excitement and instinct.
      Only the best! -Josh
      Oh yes and philosophy is only a mental exercise, it’s a playground of the mind, the real thing is right in front of you 24/7 waiting to be known acutely.

  • @thedeifiedjulius2310
    @thedeifiedjulius2310 14 днів тому +1

    Contemptible misunderstanding of the true spirit of Nietzsche.
    I would wipe the floor with you two insipid academics in a debate any day of the week.