Voice Coach Reacts | NIGHTWISH | Nemo | Tarja Turunen

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 464

  • @Ged0Thenar
    @Ged0Thenar 3 роки тому +210

    I looooove this analysis, finally someone actually showing their technical differencies in such a clear way! Thank you!

    • @JuanRodriguez-ys8vh
      @JuanRodriguez-ys8vh 3 роки тому +4

      Yeees! 😉

    • @jindas4217
      @jindas4217 3 роки тому +1

      I hear the difference's definitely.

    • @kakaneto8570
      @kakaneto8570 3 роки тому +1

      Yep.. hugs from Brasil, Voice Teacher. =)

    • @hayeswaylon2514
      @hayeswaylon2514 2 роки тому

      I dont mean to be so offtopic but does anyone know a method to get back into an instagram account..?
      I was stupid lost my account password. I appreciate any help you can give me!

    • @jaskau2462
      @jaskau2462 2 роки тому

      If not earlier, then better than late... On this "train" of musicality on earth.... 😉

  • @Green-Lyon
    @Green-Lyon 3 роки тому +105

    I love how Tarja floats and spins around the stage with such a childlike energy. Always brings a smile to my face.

    • @Ozzy_2014
      @Ozzy_2014 2 роки тому +1

      She said it at the time. Sick with a cold. Could not even sing during rehearsal. But was well enough by showtime to do this. She was happy. Crying tears of joy because of the new video feature and costume changes and sick had her very worried about carrying out the show. About disappointing the fans, her bandmates, crew and fans. It went off without a hitch. The audience ate it up. They were into the music and rocking out. It was such a high point. Musically the band in synch. She loved where they were musically. Loved what they were doing. Excited for a short break then one more album and tour while preparing to take the ultimate plunge into solo work to do her thing in her style and no nightwish to back her up or to use as a crutch. She would sink or swim on her own merits Comoletely blindsided by how those she trusted and thought things were good with. Having the time of their lives with success at a level never seen before, had already put it motion their plan to fire her after the concert. To publish a letter overnight before she even gets a chance to read it. No chance to talk. To hash things out. They did her dirty!! Whatever grievances you had, making her last to know humiliation and bewilderment. That was awful. Lacking guts to tell her in person. That poisons this concert for me. I have no hard feelings for Floor who came in later and never would do anything to upset or betray her friend Tarja. No doubt having her blessing to tour with and take over singing duties with them. But the band itself apart from Marko who has made amends with Tarja, no. I will have nothing to do with them. I place loyaty very high and betrayal of that is not something I forgive easilly.

  • @ResurrectionDreams
    @ResurrectionDreams 3 роки тому +115

    One Tarja performance that I really love is The Siren - live End of an Era (this same concert dvd). Would love to see you react to that one at some point too, not enough people do.

    • @sarahwithstars
      @sarahwithstars 3 роки тому +4

      Exactamundo
      I loved that Anette did something completely different with the siren and didn't try to copy Tarja! I love that track so much.
      Planet Hell and The Siren are two tracks that on random I never ever skip whatever my mood. Tuuuuune!

    • @anssia3123
      @anssia3123 3 роки тому +7

      The Siren is the best Tarja performance for me, I really wish people would react to it

    • @bornready6924
      @bornready6924 3 роки тому +3

      you would love her live version of "passion and the Opera", then...beyond astounding

    • @TheDucess1
      @TheDucess1 2 роки тому

      @@bornready6924 indeed ...her staccato is IMPERIAL...SUBLIM

    • @quillant757
      @quillant757 2 роки тому

      my second favorite NW song. i agree

  • @KyleS.1987
    @KyleS.1987 3 роки тому +198

    I'm a Floor fanboy at heart, but for me Tarja owns this one. Some songs really benefit from a classical specialist's touch, and "Nemo" is absolutely one of them.

    • @mayday6880
      @mayday6880 3 роки тому +12

      Tarja always sings in her stunning "operatic mode" and for some songs, like Nemo, this fits perfect..others less and those are the ones I prefer Floor.

    • @ChrisPage68
      @ChrisPage68 3 роки тому +1

      This underlines for me how much warmth Floor brings to the song. And I miss Troy's pipes. This is one case where I believe the original has been improved-upon.

    • @Shiva-_-
      @Shiva-_- 3 роки тому +20

      “This one”, shut the f* up poser. Tarja IS nightwish, of course floor is great but in fact shes just singing tarja’s songs.

    • @kuscheldrache
      @kuscheldrache 3 роки тому +11

      Definitely there are some songs e.g. Ghost Love Score where I prefer Floor's interpretation but for a lot of the old Nightwish songs I prefer Tarja's interpretation for sure. Non is better than the other it's a matter of personal preference.

    • @mayday6880
      @mayday6880 3 роки тому

      @@kuscheldrache Storytime Wacken 2013 with Floor, stunning, a way better than from Anette live

  • @AnOldGreyDog
    @AnOldGreyDog 3 роки тому +86

    I think the difference is that Tarja was classically trained and added rock vocals to her voice, while Floor studied rock singing and added classical.

    • @Rosannasfriend
      @Rosannasfriend 3 роки тому +18

      That’s exactly it. They both do both things, but dominated in one or the other. For some reason floor fans seem to think only the way she does things should get respect. It’s too bad. Both women are great singers.

    • @Raziel21K
      @Raziel21K 3 роки тому +6

      @@Rosannasfriend I am sorry but this is so far from the truth. But it seems it is the recent narrative only because you got into this whole debate recently. If you followed it since 2012 you would have completely the opposite opinion. This is just an overreaction (justified/unjustified) to a previous toxic action.

    • @FemaleMetalLover
      @FemaleMetalLover 3 роки тому +12

      @@kharnynb When Anette joined, it was Nightwish and Tarja fans alike who were giving shit to Anette. When Floor joined, most Nightwish and Tarja fans were relieved and accepted her with open arms. A tiny portion of Tarja fans continues to charade and will never be satisfied.
      With that said, it is with no doubt Floor fans who stand for the sheer majority of all the negativity nowadays. Especially with this reaction phenomenon, constantly going to Tarja videos just to rant that she has 1000 flaws and try to continue smearing her name over what happened 15 years ago.
      I also notice a lot of these people are sexist assholes who call themselves "metalheads" - who have preconceived notions that a metal singer should be of a certain type, and Floor fits that, Tarja does not.
      I have lost the count on how many reactions who have done Tarja videos, and the dislike ratio was just disproportionate. Never the case with Floor - only if the vocal pro gave valid criticism, then the Floor fans go bananas upon the realization that she is human after all.

    • @Raziel21K
      @Raziel21K 3 роки тому +3

      @@FemaleMetalLover I wish youtube posting would accept screenshots to make a funny screen shot from a recently posted Tarja era song by Nightwish themselves on their channel to see that the people that do the most noise/fuss and unchallenged by any other fans (Annette/Floor) are actually the Tarja fanatics. I mean imagine yelling and screaming to none.....

    • @Raziel21K
      @Raziel21K 3 роки тому +2

      Yea I want to say that I am not a "fan" of any band. Certainly of any singer (or have ever been in my life). Nevertheless I love NW music and been listening to them since 2000. But I am extremely allergic to hypocrisy and dishonesty.

  • @frankohero
    @frankohero 3 роки тому +59

    Tarjas version - Nightwish performing "Nemo" with Tarja as lead-vocalist, is my favourite version too.
    Floor is amazing. A vocalist I set right beside Dimash, Angelina Jordan, Katrina Velarde or Morgan James for example.
    But I REALLY like this classical operatic style Tarja forces to fit into Heavy Metal. That was the hook that got me back in the day.
    I learned to know some actual (German) opera-singers - their voices would be sooo great for Symphonic Metal...
    But their personalities don't seem to fit the requirements. We were so lucky to have Tarja go for it :).
    Tarjas work on her own is very cool - But Tarja with Nightwish was perfection, in my opinion. (On her own, Tarja does not ROCK hard enough.)

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 3 роки тому +8

      Exactly. Her classical vocals added a refined Goth metal vibe for me.

    • @oo.llpee.7457
      @oo.llpee.7457 3 роки тому +2

      There have been few opera singers in the metal bands, but it has always been either that music and lyrics didn't fit, or that opera voice was "too potato", like Tarja said in one recent interview. She had to made it her own way, and for me it was the perfect way. Nobody told her how to sing metal with classical voice. I will always miss her and old Nightwish, even that Floor is probably the best overall female vocalist out there, and perfect fit for today's Nightwish.

    • @frankohero
      @frankohero 3 роки тому +2

      @@oo.llpee.7457 Potato? lol
      I think a lot of Opera-texts are very potato :).
      But yes. Missing old Nightwish.

  • @r.e.4640
    @r.e.4640 3 роки тому +62

    Man!!!!!! Tarjas voice is SOOOOO VERY MAGISTICAL AND ENCHANTING!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!😮😮😮😮😀👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @Kilee1129
      @Kilee1129 3 роки тому +4

      Like a siren calling you out to sea, so haunting but absolutely beautiful.

    • @rientsdijkstra4266
      @rientsdijkstra4266 2 роки тому

      Where is the Tarjagasm?

  • @sakeratoys9555
    @sakeratoys9555 3 роки тому +28

    Tarja made me love Nightwish at the first time hearing
    Respect for her and still love her cause without her I would never know Nightwish and never enjoy the journey to the Nightwish world
    And SHE IS MY SIN was the first song I was hearing

  • @isadorabarbosadecarvalho3353
    @isadorabarbosadecarvalho3353 3 роки тому +12

    It is so lovely to see people loving Tarja like we do

  • @annabern8814
    @annabern8814 3 роки тому +54

    I recommend songs The siren and Swanheart from the concerts "End of an Era" and "From Wishes to enternity", these are the best songs to really appreciate Tarja's voice.

    • @sebastienriviere7371
      @sebastienriviere7371 3 роки тому +2

      I agree but there is a version of Swanheart that Tarja sang by herself without Nightwish and with an orchestra that is so much better. She completely blew me away the first time I heard it and is definitely my favorite version of the song.

    • @beernmetal6964
      @beernmetal6964 3 роки тому

      @@sebastienriviere7371 That's from Beauty and the Beat. I have it on DVD. Buy all the Tarja era stuff you can now, because it's being "disappeared". I had amazon music with a couple of Tarja era albums, but they were removed from my playlist. Now says "available in 2034". Not to be morbid, but I was a Sailor, and plan to be buried at sea. I want "Deep Silent Complete" played at my memorial. Tarja owns that song.

    • @Aurinkohirvi
      @Aurinkohirvi 3 роки тому

      Yeah I agree the after Nightwish 2015 Swanheart is better. No wonder, she was almost a beginner in 2000 FWTE concert. And her 2019 concert "Christmas Together" was best of Tarja I ever heard.
      But the way she sings it in 2000 is still wonderful. I like her vocal colour back then and that's an emotional performace. Also the "remastered" one is far better than the 2015 audio/video quality.

  • @haraldmax9685
    @haraldmax9685 3 роки тому +4

    The version with Tarja has a special vibe and is in my opinion much better as the others.

  • @watchtheskies
    @watchtheskies 3 роки тому +9

    Nightwish really are the gateway drug into the metal scene for people who otherwise wouldn't have known that there were so many genre's and sub genre's which fall under the metal banner, there really is something for everyone

  • @deaf00
    @deaf00 3 роки тому +10

    THE SIREN (Next pls!) & Sleeping Sun from the same concert are beautiful!!! ❤️

  • @Alvvays667
    @Alvvays667 3 роки тому +67

    I was like 🤦‍♂️ Just don't try to do this, you'll get mangled by haters amidst a war that should never be. Luckily from the start of your comments throughout the analysis, I remembered why I became a Patron. Really appreciated how you pointed out how there's no right or wrong way to sing this and how different their approach, technique/education and talent is.
    I'd like to add that in the mid nineties having a classically trained singer in a metal band was unique and Nightwish often was labelled as Opera Metal. Their first demo, actually became their first album (Angels Fall First) and they quickly grew to fame with Oceanborn and Wishmaster, getting praise first for their power (they even had death growls and grunting in the beginning until From Wishes to Eternity), power and symphonic elements. Later on terms like Folk metal were used more and more. Anette brought more pop-rock elements and Floor of course can do anything. Dynamics have shifted to fit the singers, with addition of Marko as replacement for Sami, the bass changed and they got a better male singer (Tuomas vocal abilities were not the best for Nightwish). And of course addition of Troy brought a lot of extra instrumental options (and less need for backing instrumentals).

    • @js0988
      @js0988 3 роки тому +5

      I don't get the division, they are both great and suited Nightwish like a fist fits an eye. The only Universal truth that all can agree on is that Anette was shit! :D

    • @ResurrectionDreams
      @ResurrectionDreams 3 роки тому +7

      The singer war amongst fans has always been stupid. I have enjoyed all the singers on studio albums. Annette isn't great live, but Floor and Tarja are both wonderful in their own ways.

    • @Alvvays667
      @Alvvays667 3 роки тому +7

      @@js0988 She had a few nice songs she did great live too. But that's the key I think 'a few'. Other performances without Nightwish are better. Personally I think she and Nightwish simply didn't match enough although the sales during her era tell a different story (then again it's studio over live recordings that sold better). It was one hell of a scaretale, luckily we're now in meadows of heaven 😉

    • @js0988
      @js0988 3 роки тому +3

      @@Alvvays667 Well, look at who are the top selling artists at the moment. Not much talent in the top 1000. Horrible rap and hip hop that is closer to cats fighting in an alley than music. She was definitely more mainstream, that unfortunately doesn't mean good.

    • @nancylee2601
      @nancylee2601 3 роки тому

      @@js0988 Perfectly put!

  • @ImForwardlook
    @ImForwardlook 3 роки тому +50

    The magic and glamour of Nightwish died without Tarja.

    • @antoniocarlin5026
      @antoniocarlin5026 3 роки тому +4

      Same case as The Gathering without Anneke

    • @TheDucess1
      @TheDucess1 2 роки тому +4

      indeed

    • @christosv.4692
      @christosv.4692 4 місяці тому

      You don’t know what you’re talking about lil wigga, go to sleep 💤

  • @stefanratkiewicz
    @stefanratkiewicz 3 роки тому +10

    This is a situation where you can 'Flip a Coin' and never lose.

  • @vuv10
    @vuv10 3 роки тому +18

    Love this video ❤️, I personally enjoy this more operatic approach, probably because I grew up listening to Tarja, but I love Floor too and enjoy her take on this amazing songs. I think they are both amazing and we should enjoy and appreciate different ways of singing.

  • @valiktarnavsky2169
    @valiktarnavsky2169 4 місяці тому +1

    You analyze perfectly, and you said everything correctly! Tarja is symphonic metal, and Flor is just metal.

  • @pcgamesjogosryzen7768
    @pcgamesjogosryzen7768 3 роки тому +9

    Tarja's voice has life, on the Floor it seems simple normal lifeless

    • @justskip4595
      @justskip4595 2 роки тому +1

      I do not know what it is but I do not like Floor despite of what a lot of people are saying. There is something that I can not pinpoint. Some might say that is is for listening too much Tarja but Anette wasn't that bad either.
      I think I just don't understand or something is literally wrong with my hearing. (I know for a fact there are some problems with specific frequencies.)

  • @MetalFranz
    @MetalFranz 3 роки тому +2

    You are now ready for SLEEPING SUN, from that very same concert

  • @jorluo
    @jorluo 3 роки тому +12

    Great reaction again Christi. For those who are interested and haven't seen it yet, there's an episode of a Finnish cooking show in UA-cam (with English subtitles) where a Michelin-star chef Hans Välimäki visited Tarja Turunen in her home in Spain. They talked about life, food, etc. and made dinner together with Tarja and her daughter: Hansin matkassa (7.4.2020) (with subtitles!)

  • @metalhead4624
    @metalhead4624 3 роки тому +3

    you should really hear Tarja in her very early, mezzo days..the sheer vocal energy , rapidly changing pitch and register an her robust stage presence was intoxicating..any song from the "from wishes to eternity" concert will more than adequately prove my point....

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 3 роки тому

      Tarja was very much the light lyric soprano in "From Wishes to Eternity". She's just talented enough to have a full low range for a soprano, and she was very well trained.

    • @metalhead4624
      @metalhead4624 3 роки тому +3

      @@kimberlyh.1090 superbly so, indeed and at that time she was only half way thru her initial training...i can only imagine how much practice she put in to adjust her strict classical training to the needs of a metal band vocalist, particularly the innovations she introduced into the very genre...in those days, alone, she put out so many, shades and nuances of vocal splendor...versatility..haha...Tarja is the epitome of it and a master of emotional delivery through facial contortions and hand gestures.. but alas, some people only respond to robocop outfits and intense hair-tossing (although that could be nice too)

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 3 роки тому

      @@metalhead4624 "and a master of emotional delivery through facial contortions and hand gestures" Particularly "Gethsemene". XD

    • @metalhead4624
      @metalhead4624 3 роки тому +1

      @@kimberlyh.1090 amen to that...i believe you are echoing my sentiments and loving it ..haha.. can never get through a Tarja song without an intense mixture of emotions ... sometimes, i even wonder if she is mortal, like the rest of us (always a privilege to speak with a fellow Tarja-holic)

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 3 роки тому +1

      @@metalhead4624 I used to be a diehard Floor fan, but then I saw her "fans" always shitting on Tarja's talents (on Tarja's videos...) and the same never happened in reverse (probably because we're evolved enough to know how good a singer Floor is - we just don't go on Floor's videos to talk shit about her). It made me go through a mini-"renaissance". I fell in love with Tarja's dark soprano all over again, and while I still love Floor, it's her "Flooraholics" I absolutely hate (comments like "Tarja who? ;)" - give me a fucking break). Floor's a good singer, but there's no comparison. Tarja is the OG Nightwish Frontwoman, the OG Gothic Metal aesthetic, and she pioneered to an entire new Metal genre (with Liv Kristine); Symphonic Metal. Without Tarja, there'd be no Nightwish (and no Floor).

  • @LICENCIADA81
    @LICENCIADA81 3 роки тому +7

    Oooh I adore that keyboard's sound at the beginning of the performance!! She has great vocals and the setting on stage is amazing. I would definitely have enjoyed that live concert!

  • @mkrichards7281
    @mkrichards7281 3 роки тому +8

    Great reaction and breakdown. Personally I think that certain nightwish songs are just so much more emotionally intense with Tarja's ethereal classical sound and Nemo is definitely one of them. She's brilliant.

  • @frankpuncekar5051
    @frankpuncekar5051 3 роки тому +10

    Great Job, great analysis of Tarja and Floor. I always try to explain( you did a better job than I do) as a fan of Nightwish for over 20 years, comparing Tarja with Floor it’s not to compete on who is better, it’s to enjoy both singers interpretations of Tuomas masterpieces. Even Annette Olsen did a great job on some of the songs and Annette Olsen fans are as passionate about a competition against Floor & Tarja but I say Enjoy you get three beautiful versions of Tuomas masterpieces, they are not easy to sing properly. Again great reaction/analysis of Nemo can’t wait to you do others! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

    • @Sannoz
      @Sannoz 3 роки тому

      Love your point, i allways seen Tarja as the 5th instrument to Toumas composing of the music of the band rather then a "lead" singer. And not to forget Toumas Tarja and Emppu formed the band in highschool

  • @sergioandreszamudiopizarro1822
    @sergioandreszamudiopizarro1822 3 роки тому +7

    React Nightwish - The Siren with Tarja in the same concert is great

  • @melicriszoe1
    @melicriszoe1 3 роки тому +11

    Thanks for starting to listen to Tarja and I hope there are more of her songs! your analysis is the best I've ever heard !! and I'm dying to continue listening to more songs. Tarja is a great singer! With nigthwish I recommend the siren, ghost love Score, walking in the air, sleeping sun etc. But Tarja has an incredible solo career and I'm eager for you to analyze one of her songs: victim of ritual in Woodstock, innocence, supremacy, anteroom of death for example, but it's hard to choose. I subscribe to your channel waiting for more analysis on Tarja.

  • @SnakeM98
    @SnakeM98 3 роки тому +10

    I loved your analysis and take on this one and I'd like to hear more Tarja version analysis from you! :)

    • @jyips
      @jyips 3 роки тому +1

      You mean more original versions? ;)

    • @SnakeM98
      @SnakeM98 3 роки тому +1

      @@jyips well sure, but there are some Tarja versions of the songs after she left NW that sound much better than when she was in NW, so those don't belong in the original version category :P

  • @Rafael-qi9bt
    @Rafael-qi9bt 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for this analysis! This is the best I've ever seen. You just gained one more subscriber.

  • @ligeiasiren4290
    @ligeiasiren4290 2 місяці тому

    Nemo is the band's biggest hit to date, and the song that resulted in their global breakthrough. It's a very special song for the band.
    Many people discovered the band through this track, and the selling point was, precisely, Tarja's operatic vocals. It made them stand out as a group, and caught everyone's attention at the time.

  • @OathKeeper95
    @OathKeeper95 3 роки тому +5

    I would love to see tour reaction to the siren from the same concert :) end of an era!

  • @emiliom.5940
    @emiliom.5940 3 роки тому +13

    Really enjoyed this. Thank you 😊
    Any chance of more reactions on Tarja in her solo band?

  • @danellwein8679
    @danellwein8679 3 роки тому +2

    the rawness of this time in NIghtwish's life is just amazing .. Tarja is mystical .. Floor is powerful .. both are good .. Tuomas and Tarja were magical together .. not sure why that ended .. this Nightwish doesn't exist anymore .. but it was nice while it lasted ..

    • @garyballard179
      @garyballard179 3 роки тому +1

      It ended because Tarja never really was a 'frontwoman.' She's never had the temperament to be in a band - she's always been more suited to being the 'headliner,' a soloist.
      Among everything that happened, it came out that she wasn't thrilled with the guys' typically rockstar behavior, and felt 'excluded' because of it. Floor on the hand embraces that, and her male bandmates (she's never been a solo singer) are always her 'brothers.'

    • @danellwein8679
      @danellwein8679 3 роки тому

      @@garyballard179 thanks for the info ..

    • @FemaleMetalLover
      @FemaleMetalLover 3 роки тому +1

      @@garyballard179 Well, Floor and Tarja entered the world of metal differently.
      Floor knew beforehand what she was diving into. She heard The Gathering and Anneke Van Giersbergen and knew right after that that was something she also wanted to do, and applied for the Rock Acadamey - she started as a rock singer, and ADDED operatic singing after.
      For Tarja it was the opposite. She started with classical singing and was preparing herself for that world, which is the complete opposite of the typical rock-star life.
      But she fell in love with it, and continue with it till this day.
      "She's never had the temperament to be in a band"
      She has had her own band for the past 15 years, where Alex and Max have pretty much been with her from the start, so that has nothing to do with it. Her personality and priorities just did not click with those of the guys - and she voiced them and was ready to leave on her own will, so lets not open that can of worms for the millionth time.

  • @piccMu51c
    @piccMu51c 3 роки тому +12

    I love Tarja, she is obviously the literal definition of classic Nightwish, and I'm very glad you've taken the time to visit this performance. The discourse comparing the singers often gets just nasty and painful, but to continue off your reaction, what makes Floor stand out today with modern NW is her dynamic approach to reproducing these songs. Tarja sounds the same the whole way through and it comes off as "easy" or "effortless", which you commented on and is certainly a big part of her appeal. Then Floor comes along and takes you on a journey - there is a progression to the way she performs a song, and she's able to move between many styles on the fly, it's part of her story-telling. It's also is super appealing, just for very different reasons. Thanks for taking another look at NW, looking forward to your next reaction!

  • @mornjnglori
    @mornjnglori 3 роки тому +5

    Thank you so much for this reaction and analysis! This was the first song by Nightwish I discovered so it holds a special place in my heart, while Floor is an amazing singer (and I love modern Nightwish to death), Tarja's voice has a haunting and dark quality that sticks. I'd love to see you check out something more recent from her. :)
    Her cover of Supremacy by Muse at Hellfest is fantastic and I think you'd enjoy it.

  • @fernandorodrigues1939
    @fernandorodrigues1939 3 роки тому +1

    She is amazing as is Floor, and the fact that this song was wrote for Tarja's voice sure helps... an work of art for sure! Diferent but great both of them! The best analysis about their diferences!

  • @guitarplayerz4893
    @guitarplayerz4893 3 роки тому +9

    As always, great job Christi. I loved Tarja, and when she and the band parted ways I was worried Nightwish wouldn't recover, despite all of their talent. Anette had her own sound, which to me was more of a "pop" sound. It didn't seem to fit the band as much. I thought I would need therapy, but then Anette and the band parted ways and Floor came along. She fit the band perfectly. I absolutely love her vocals. We, i.e. The Nightwish Army, are very lucky to have had this amazing journey. If you want to have some fun, watch Tarja as she reacts to people singing her songs. Her reaction to the kid singing "Nemo" is priceless. For convenience, I've included it here. ua-cam.com/video/JxPK1cboSbk/v-deo.html

  • @tereflores1316
    @tereflores1316 3 роки тому +1

    I love Tarja so much!!!

  • @Dave_K.
    @Dave_K. 3 роки тому +2

    It's not surprising that you prefer Tarja's version because this song was originally composed by Tuomas for her and her vocal/tonal abilities. She is the singer who performs this song in the album Once (2004) which 'Nemo' come from. And this live performance is very accurate to the recording version.
    I love Floor Jansen as a singer, I listen her from her first band After Forever and she's my favorite metal singer of all time and perfectly fit with modern Nightwish. But Tarja Turunen will always have a special place in my heart as the best 'old-school' Nightwish singer, her pure classical dark voice is still amazing.

  • @MikeyV77
    @MikeyV77 3 роки тому +2

    Tarja is a one-of-a-kind. Floor has big shoes to fill and I think she does a good job not many people can do what she did. And the fans really like and respect her. There has to be a lot of pressure put on floor doing the back catalogue of Nightwish songs. I would imagine they are not the easiest songs to sing but good on her I think she does a great job and I got a chance to see them with floor A couple of years ago and it was a great show.

  • @christopherkelly4555
    @christopherkelly4555 3 роки тому +5

    What an excellent way to discuss both of these incredible women. Subscribed. More Tarja please!
    ...I can't help myself, sorry:
    Solo:
    I Feel Immortal, Supremacy, Falling Awake
    And from her time with Nightwish:
    Slaying the Dreamer, Ever Dream, 10th Man Down

  • @Razor2k3
    @Razor2k3 3 роки тому +1

    I raise a problem. Regarding what you said - anytime i listen to Floor, i tend to smile - because she is smiling when she sings .(as you are saying - obvious) - as for Tarja - i am just impressed. Rarely, i mean really rarely does Tarja make me shiver - but Floor - that is another level. She emits so much happiness. I started listening to the band in 2003 and is still my number one band. I am listening to the Greatest Band on Earth.

  • @JuanRodriguez-ys8vh
    @JuanRodriguez-ys8vh 3 роки тому +2

    Good job as usually 😉! I love the Tarja's voice. I could appreciate the delicate way that you explained these 2 different voices, as well! Always smart and elegant 👍💖

  • @markfrancis6886
    @markfrancis6886 3 роки тому +25

    Floor is awesome but there is something otherworldly about Tarja

    • @byankavega9048
      @byankavega9048 3 роки тому +2

      I agree!

    • @romualdandrzejczak4093
      @romualdandrzejczak4093 3 роки тому

      @@byankavega9048 Many of main symphonic metal singers have that; Sharon den Adel, Simone Simons, even Floor herself...

    • @paulos1466
      @paulos1466 3 роки тому

      Definitely otherwordly 💃🎼

  • @tapanim6576
    @tapanim6576 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to see and hear that you don't (have to) choose sides, because they all (Tarja, Anette and Floor) are great singers and brought their own style to Nightwish. Let us all enjoy each and everyones era and love them all equally.

  • @anashiedler6926
    @anashiedler6926 3 роки тому +4

    For me it was as if Nightwish was shifting from Gothic Metal (Tarja always had that kind of longing for something unknown in her voice) over a short period of power metal (annette) to symphonic metal (floor).
    I liked the Tarja era best of all. Tarjas sound was really something mostly unique (just mentioning: "Dianne van Giersbergen/ex-libris+xandria", whereas floor is just one out of many highly talented singers/frontwomen in symphonic metal bands

  • @Oliveandcheese
    @Oliveandcheese 3 роки тому +1

    Tarja is my first love and my forever love.

  • @bazkeen
    @bazkeen 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely managed. This is the song that got me listening to Nightwish back in the day. Definitely have a soft spot for this version

  • @RandallMorris222
    @RandallMorris222 3 роки тому +1

    I was one of the first people to view this reaction this morning. I didn't bother to comment because I dreaded getting caught up in the inevitable war. I was VERY pleasantly surprised to come back this afternoon and see how much much respect and love you are all expressing. Thank you. You've given me hope for the Nightwish Army. As more than one of you has said, this doesn't doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, a question of who's better. Christie, you've done a great job of highlighting the reasons these performances sound different without getting caught up in whether one is better than the other. So thank YOU, as well. (Now for my very controversial opinion: the very best performance of NEMO was given by Tim Akkerman on the Dutch television show Beste Zangers 2019).

  • @folklore.evermore3
    @folklore.evermore3 3 роки тому

    this is the best analysis for theses two singers I've seen in YT, thank you !

  • @lujalainen1
    @lujalainen1 3 роки тому +1

    this was first video where i see that tuomas drink his favorite red wine :) 1996 was revolution year to symphonic metal and women singer heavy metal bands generally. atleast nightwish and within temptations start that year and both have women lead singer. sharon den adel and tarja turunen was pioneers when women start singing heavy music. i dont know sharon but i know and see in you tube that she have sing almost every women metal singer together to concert or feat some music videos or album. big respect to women pioneers of heavy metal genre. thanx great react and have great day there.

  • @helia4161
    @helia4161 3 роки тому +6

    I am so glad you reacted to Tarja's version. I see many requesting The Siren (with Marko - you'll absolutely love it) and Swanheart (I love this one too, completely different and one that Floor does not sing) and I would second these requests! Keep up the great work!

  • @oceansoul085
    @oceansoul085 3 роки тому

    I really enjoyed your side-by-side dissection of both performances. Fascinating and informative.

  • @michaelwanklin3580
    @michaelwanklin3580 3 роки тому +9

    Hi. This actually the exact song that caught my ear to enjoy Nightwish. I only heard it whilst my beautiful daughter played it in her room. The music captivated me especially the guitar and piano. I forgot about it for years and recalled it and spoke to my baby girl - what was that band that sang Nemo - bammmmm Nightwish with Floor at Wacken and I fell in love. I like Tarja but Floor is so versatile and gorgeous as a human being. Love Floor 🤘🤘🤘😄😄

  • @tapanim6576
    @tapanim6576 3 роки тому +1

    Hopefully you could have a listen to Tarja's solo songs too and give your opinion on some of them, like "Until My Last Breath", "You and I", "Ave Maria" (Paolo Torsti), "Railroads" etc. Tarja did an amazing live version of the Muse song "Supremacy" live at Woodstock 2016, it really showcases Tarja's voice abilities. It would be nice to hear your thoughts on that live performance.

  • @diegoferreira3934
    @diegoferreira3934 3 роки тому

    Great analysis, thank you!!!!

  • @AnnieNYC1
    @AnnieNYC1 3 роки тому +1

    Nightwish fans have an AMAZING concert-energy. Just had to say that. Fantastic. This band! Wow. Every time I listen to them (and I've only heard of Nightwish through your reaction, Christi, and I'm deeply grateful for the exposure of the canyon in my musical knowledge, which I've been delightedly filling for the last year or so), I am floored (no pun) by how amazing their mastery of the music is. Tarja's voice is rich and velvety and I love this rendition, too. These ladies are out-of-this-world talented. Also, I found the analysis fascinating. Thank you for the comparison of technique and WHAT we were hearing (which of course is a universe apart from comparing hierarchical quality or skill). You rock. Lovely.

  • @Rosannasfriend
    @Rosannasfriend 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful performance.

  • @duskwalker6817
    @duskwalker6817 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for reacting to this one! Every reactor totally sleeps on Tarja.

  • @JariJuslin
    @JariJuslin Рік тому

    Tarja was trained as opera singer. Floor started with rock and metal and then later studied classical singing to extend her capabilities.
    So they come from different directions and have personal preferences for different styles.
    And oh, I believe Nightwish and Tarja were part of the influence that made Floor realize classical singing can also ROCK.

  • @badsiony
    @badsiony 3 роки тому +1

    While Floor is my favourite Nightwish singer to date, Nemo with Tarja was the very first Nightwish song I ever heard around 12+ years ago, so it still holds a special place in my heart. ♥️ Plus Tarja is obviously incredible.

  • @srj6678
    @srj6678 3 роки тому +14

    Please react to " Dead boy's Poem" live in Buenos Aires.

  • @Karma4Evrrr
    @Karma4Evrrr Рік тому

    Tarja really was the Queen of Nightwish. 🙏 I miss her. ❤️

  • @j.lahtinen7525
    @j.lahtinen7525 2 роки тому

    Yes, this song is one that is really made for Tarja's voice, and I think the version with her is the best one. I think this was also the best known Nightwish song - It was a pretty big hit here in Finland when it came out.

  • @pen7759
    @pen7759 3 роки тому

    I came late here, but I appreciate your explaining between
    Tarja and Floor. So nice to watch you n hear prof. comments.
    Stay safe down there! Greets from snowy Finland.

  • @Idefixu
    @Idefixu 3 роки тому +1

    Loved your diplomatic analysis!🇫🇮

  • @sarahwithstars
    @sarahwithstars 3 роки тому +1

    I love you, Christi, so pleased you are still enjoying your Nightwish discovery journey and helping people understand why their ears love them too and why it is ok to love all the vocalists equally!(!) And they don't need to fight to the death in a tarja Vs floor 4ever battle!(!) 🤭😂
    Be safe darling, stay well xxxxx

  • @MooreCEJr
    @MooreCEJr 3 роки тому

    Beautiful reaction... love the in depth analysis and the love for this amazing singer. Frontwoman of Nightwish are uniqued; all within their own talents and style.
    "Deep Silent Complete" is another good Tarja reaction song.

  • @kurzzyou5537
    @kurzzyou5537 3 роки тому +1

    Love them both..Ghost Love Score also..both fantastic.

  • @silviabarreiropazos5296
    @silviabarreiropazos5296 Рік тому

    Tarja is amazing, love her!❤

  • @moriiyanis3526
    @moriiyanis3526 3 роки тому +1

    I truly enjoyed this reaction and your analysis! You are right, there is no better or worse, only different styles. I’ve recently described Floor as ‘the one ring that binds it all’ and as such Nightwish had a consistent evolution. I’ve been a fan since their origin in the mid nineties and I’ve enjoyed their music with all three vocalists. They all have/had merit, and often it’s a mood thing which version of a song I feel like listening to. Excellent job on the comparison, I’ve never seen that done yet!

  • @Darnaguen
    @Darnaguen 3 роки тому +9

    Part of the difference is probably what they focused on in their training. Tarja majored in chamber music (specifically lied singing) while Floor has some classical training but I believe her major was musical theatre. That's why, to generalize, Tarja sounds like an opera diva and Floor sounds like a Disney princess.

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 3 роки тому +4

      Tarja majored in classical singing (specifically lied singing, yes), chamber music is instrumental only. "Floor sounds like a Disney princess" Which I don't get how is befitting for a *Metal* band but whatever.

  • @andrewvarley3887
    @andrewvarley3887 3 роки тому +3

    Love everything Floor does, but, This is the track that got me into Nightwish and will ALWAYS be my favourite...

  • @cristiankalymayor8759
    @cristiankalymayor8759 3 роки тому +1

    Genial análisis, ambas cantantes son sorprendentes, muchas gracias por hacer tan excelente trabajo, tu voz es hermosa por cierto

  • @johnhitchens2265
    @johnhitchens2265 3 роки тому +2

    Nightwish is lucky to have had two awesome singers

  • @guitar_noodle
    @guitar_noodle 3 роки тому +4

    Great analysis coach. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Both are good.l, it just depends on what you’re in the mood for. I’ve always loved both of them. There are some songs I prefer Tarja over Floor and vice versa.

  • @torpitsanas9010
    @torpitsanas9010 3 роки тому +1

    You are absolutely right. Both Tarja and Floor are amazing. Both have own and different style. Band have definitely evolved from early days. All three singers, every album and every tour have bring something new their sound.
    They have said interviews that they want to do always something different in every album, not for fans but to themselves to keep it interesting and challenging. Maybe next NW song, first track from new album Music. Btw. you have yet hear 2nd singer Anette? her songs Amaranth or maybe her first NW single Eva(only lyric video).

  • @kira5563
    @kira5563 3 роки тому +2

    I also love this one the most! I love Floor with all of my person and absolutely adore her work with the band but I just have so many memories connected with the old Nightwish songs and with Tarja's voice that I usually prefer her original versions (they were obviously written for her) and IMO it's totally fine because it's just the matter of taste and we are free to choose the one which resonated with us the most ♥️

  • @heart_of_garnet
    @heart_of_garnet 3 роки тому +1

    Great analysis, thank you! I originally came to Nightwish in the Tarja era, so she and the songs like Nemo that were written in her era will always be very special to me. I think I’m one of the few fans who has loved what each of the three singers has brought to the table reasonably equally. Tarja, Anette, and Floor each have many songs that I prefer their version of over the others. All different colours, tones, moods... all very talented ladies. I would be interested to see more reactions/analysis of yours to Tarja - either with Nightwish or her solo work. She also did a duet with Sharon den Adel from the symphonic rock/metal band Within Temptation. Sharon is another beautiful vocalist in her own right, and apparently mostly self-taught!

  • @German_1
    @German_1 3 роки тому +1

    The official video of this is good too.

  • @Karma4Evrrr
    @Karma4Evrrr Рік тому

    Beautiful Tarja ❤

  • @osbournecrak
    @osbournecrak 3 роки тому +4

    Good reaction 😉
    You haven't seen yet
    Dead Boy's Poem or devil and the deep dark ocean from Buenos Aires ?
    Even though I like the Nightwish era with Tarja, I wouldn't say that I'm big fans of her voice.
    It's always the same and tarja uses her vibrato a lot
    I like the versatility that Nightwish has today

  • @jurgenbruin4729
    @jurgenbruin4729 3 роки тому +1

    Great review! As long as you're back on NW, it is all fine!

  • @drrraug
    @drrraug 3 роки тому

    Sudden Laudato Si Ad Astra edited in caught me offguard, I can hardly listen to it without tearing up from the beauty, almost had me again in just those few seconds it played! Thanks for analyzing some more Tarja!

  • @olagsanger7436
    @olagsanger7436 11 місяців тому

    Tarja is a Phantom. Floor a Godess. Right on the beat.

  • @jaanahedemaki6993
    @jaanahedemaki6993 3 роки тому +1

    Oh how I ❤ this reaction and this MAJESTIC performance of NEMO.This was the song that I always came back to listen from the Pop world I was in.And then one day decided to check how Nightwish is doing nowadays. Then I discovered FLOOR was with Nightwish and my journey really began. But there is something magical with old NW stuff and I love how TARJA brought her operatic elegance to the band.Even though I wasn't a fan at that time I always knew about them and I absolutely love the old NIghtwish. I absolutely love the new Nightwish as well and how the band has evolved. And I really like how Christi is able to respect the performance and see the progression of the band and not start the stupid"Who did it better?" That is such a turn off.Nobody cares who your preferred singer is anyway if you're a fan of Nightwish the band you don't belittle or bash any of their members....but still....what I would give to see TARJA AND FLOOR together performing Nightwish songs.I don't care I'm weak.Tarja could visit them.It's never going to happen I know but could you imagine THE POWER of that stage??!! Anyway: Than you, Christi. I love how you are able to support the whole band and recognize it and the talent that they had/have.

  • @johannessilver8653
    @johannessilver8653 6 місяців тому +1

    Most emotional live of this song ever. Brand new singer - no no...the original one !!! 5 albums and founding member of the band...make it all possible with Tuomas - took this band from school band level to the leader of the genre globally. Sorry but the others are substitutes for her in reality having table set ready to go...check history.

  • @Blackounay77
    @Blackounay77 3 роки тому

    Tarja is life !

  • @adecentdelinquent8986
    @adecentdelinquent8986 3 роки тому +1

    This was so informative! I'm getting into classical singing recently, and I want to know if I'm truly a low alto (according to my fach. And my D3-F#5 vocal range.) So I think learning opera singing would help me determine my voice type. I can't afford a vocal coach so I'm on UA-cam videos like yours. Keep them coming!
    Away from me, Rarja's version is my favorite because I think her singing style fits the song topic, lyrics, and melody (which is kinda tricky and I still can't memorize lol). I'm starting to get the hang of classical singing and I feel proud of myself because I noticed and understood what you were explaining.

  • @fabiobrito6031
    @fabiobrito6031 3 роки тому

    I totaly i gree, Tarja is iconic.

  • @efz629
    @efz629 2 роки тому

    Tarja Turunen was the Original singer of the band.
    She was fired from the band right after this gig - by keyboard player Tuomas Holopainen.

  • @hugogodoyalvarez4212
    @hugogodoyalvarez4212 3 роки тому +3

    Ghost Love Score (Tarja)

  • @stcpimus
    @stcpimus 3 роки тому

    Tarja is an angel

  • @milo20060
    @milo20060 3 роки тому

    The studio version is SOOOO GOOD

  • @asxulxetesteronsxez538
    @asxulxetesteronsxez538 3 роки тому

    I found Nightwish through Annette’s songs. I listened to Floor’s album of the time and didn’t want to listen to their older songs... until The Siren came on. Little while later I delved into their older stuff. I liked Annette, I really enjoy Floor, but I love Tarja. It’s always just been “I like one better”. But you’ve explained why for me.

  • @NaelBoustany
    @NaelBoustany 3 місяці тому

    No one can replace Tarja she will always be Nightwish N1 vocalist 🤟

  • @Nyarlathotep_Flagg
    @Nyarlathotep_Flagg 3 роки тому +2

    It's fine some do prefer Tarja's deeper opera voice over Floor's versatility.

  • @kammurabi2313
    @kammurabi2313 3 роки тому +1

    On arrangement comparisons, I suppose it would also be fair to mention that this was a hit song and new for that tour, so was given more of that prestige treatment. It is also perfectly fine to prefer Tarja on this song. It is after all one of the ones she is most known for.

  • @skiptindle5976
    @skiptindle5976 3 роки тому +2

    Father daughter duet - All I Ask of You - Phantom of the Opera Cover you will never regret it! :) Love ya, you have helped to keep me sane during this trying times!

  • @maggaw9869
    @maggaw9869 3 роки тому +15

    Please react to Tarja. Nightwish- Kuolema Tekee Taiteilijan. End of an Era. Kiitos.

    • @metalhead4624
      @metalhead4624 3 роки тому

      stunningly beautiful performance, indeed

    • @maggaw9869
      @maggaw9869 3 роки тому

      @@metalhead4624 I love end of an eras songs :)

    • @metalhead4624
      @metalhead4624 3 роки тому

      @@maggaw9869 ..absolutely...for me, all that was missing was swanheart as only Tarja can render it...such a shame that the vocal portion was replaced was replaced by a flute in post Tarja-era...loved to hear Floor's take on it...

    • @maggaw9869
      @maggaw9869 3 роки тому

      @@metalhead4624 Tarja & Floor both are good.And Tuomas is fantastic. Loving Nightwish.

    • @metalhead4624
      @metalhead4624 3 роки тому

      @Mapz Hmar Zate Tarja's heavenly voice does it to me every time