Tarja had a flu on that concert day, she wasn't quite at her best but did very good job nevertheless. About vocalist changes; basically Tarja and her husband/manager and rest of the band (and their management) were pulling in different directions. Tarja was replaced by Anette Olzon, who was pure rock/pop vocalist with some musical theater background. Wonderful singer on her own, but maybe not best fit for Nightwish. On 2012 Imaginaerum-tour, she had some health issues and she was also pregnant. Because NA tour was very important for a band, they didn't want to cancel any shows but use temporary vocalists instead. Shit basically hit the fan in Denver, where the audience was already inside the venue - Alissa White Gluz and Elize Ryd came to rescue and they had quite unusual "karaoke night". Anette was very upset about temporary replacements, and she also knew that Floor Jansen was coming to help the band for the rest of the tour if needed (Floor had 48 hours to learn the whole setlist). I don't think that sit well with Anette either, so once again personal differences were so fundamental that they had to part ways with the singer. Floor did amazing job for the rest of the Imaginaerum-tour, and after the tour Floor Jansen and multi-instrumentalist Troy Donockley became permanet members of the band. My opinion about line-up changes: those are natural for a band which has been around for 20 years. Personal differences, health issues, you name it. Those things happen. But, they handled situation with Tarja poorly, causing unnecessary drama with that "open letter" to Tarja, media and fans. I don't know what they could have done differently with Anette though. Cancel the tour? Anyway, Floor has been in a band for 6 years now and everything seems to be going smoothly and professionally. It's like they are finally complete band, with everybody on the same page, and pulling in same direction.
It seems that band is quite happy now, on some interview Tuomas said that Floor is at home now(After joined Nightwish), Floor and other members agree on that. Good base to the future....For the band and for the fans/audience.
You mentioned Tarja's strange vowels, but I quite like it when I can hear an accent through the singing. Tarja is Finnish, so I like that she sounds Finnish when she sings.
Yes, like honestly, I'm listening for the overall music, not the vowel pronunciation. For all I care, Tarja can say vowels however she wants, since she sings it amazingly regardless.
That's one of the things I like with Tatiana from Jinjer too, her Ukrainian accent and pronunciations come through from time to time and it gives the performance an extra natural feel.
I see everyone talkin about Tarja but YESSSS I love that you recognise Marco and how his style is ALSO Great for this song, even though youre a purist. Thank you!
@merja hassinen Marco is a more conventional rock guitarist- he was recruited specifically to sing parts Tarja might not be able to use her operatic voice to sing
The energy was quite unbelievable, I was there. Great concert and I'm happy to see Marco Hietala getting some appreciation, he has such a great voice and the combination of his and Tarja's voice is really what makes the song great.
Marco's voice bring a more sinister/eerie feel to the song, and you almost become fearfull of what will happend when Tarja hits those notes at the end of the song. I do believe I read somewhere that Andrew lloyd Webber, really loved this version of the song.
Tarja was studying classical singing when she got invited into a band by her former school mates, and they decided to go symphonic metal to fit music for her voice. Her first 3 albums she sang classical style, but they changed her singing style into more contemporary style in her two last albums (change I really didn't fancy). Tarja and the band had problems in the world tours, it's mentioned both in the open letter - the band wrote a letter as an explanation why they fired her - and in the press confrence Tarja gave a bit after, she thought that the touring was behind the problems they had. Tarja and her husband-agent tried to get Nightwish reduce the amount of gigs, because she felt her voice and health couldn't take several gigs every week, but the band wanted to keep the gigs: that divided them into two camps. There is this quite popular theory too, that this "Jack Sparrow" there, Tuomas, the composer of Nightwish songs, had a romantic interest on Tarja, but she married another one, and jealousy stepped in. Tarja's husband in fact said in his letter's to Nightwish fans twice that this was so, and he even discussed about it with Tuomas. Anyway, Tarja had already told she would retire the band after the next album's world tour. But they fired her in advance before that next album, right after this concert. So she wasn't disapointed that she got fired, she was already leaving. But she was disapoined on the way the firing was done, and that the relationships in the band had gone so bad they gave her a letter instead talking to her (that's the part where she cried in her press confrence). The firing and the open letter left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and poisoned the fandom for a long time. There was some really rude things said, and I do regard it a biased and misleading letter, which left things unsaid. Tarja's one and a half hours long press confrence on the contrary was quite detailed.
No, I agree with OP that High Hopes is probably the best showcase of Marco's voice. Marco's strength is in his versatility and High Hopes shows off his every aspect. The Islander and Wish I Had an Angel are both much more one-dimensional songs.
This vocalist, Tarja Turunen, was fired from the band with an open letter directly after this concert back in 2005. She had been with the band since the start in 1996. As one might assume, a lot of drama ensued. (Still somewhat ongoing, by the way.) Two years later, in 2007, they hired Anette Olsson. Anette was fired in 2012 during the Imaginaerum tour in the US. Floor Jansen was then asked to step in, starting on their next concert. In two days. She accepted, and is still their current vocalist.
@TheBlackiwid You're correct. She was going to leave anyway, so they asked her to leave before she left of her own free will. Either way, it was coming to an end. The main problem was the way in which it was handled, not the fact she left. She was going to do that anyway.
Well I've listened Tarja's hour and a half long Finnish press confrence where she goes very detailed on what was happening in the band, why she left, and issued in the letter. In her opinon the main problem was the world tours. They were having several gigs each week during the tour, and Tarja felt it was too much for her voice and her health: she wanted to cut the amount of the gigs, but the band wanted to keep the gigs. This divided them into two opposing camps. Because Tarja saw that she can't do such world tours any more, she gave her notice to the band: she said she will retire after next album's world tour. And that she would not tour next time but tops two weeks at a time (found also in the open letter, where this attitude was found problematic by the band). There may be also reasons that were not told in the letter nor in Tarja's press confrence. Jealousy could be one of them. In his answers to Nightwish fans Tarja's husband Marcelo twice says Tuomas was romantically interested in Tarja, and claims he had a talk about it with Tuomas too. This is quite a popular and well known theme among NW fans.
That's a hard question - why did Tarja leave. You will get so many answers from one side and the other side, believe me. But long story short - the band had been together at that point for 9 years and since they all were young, lots of stupid things happened - like lots of alcohol and partying - Tarja (the singer) were never a fan of this, so she found a solace of one south american manager who started to manage her business life, including her role in the band. In the end, it didn't sit well with the other band members, specially when her and her manager were grearing up for her solo career and they fired her with an open letter. It was a huge scandal in Finland and it took the band many years to recover. They also had a middle singer Anette (who was really good at albums but not soo good live) and they fired her almost on the same reasons as Tarja - what she wanted and the band wanted were two different things. Since Anette was fired in the middle of the tour, they flew in Floor Jansen from The Netherlands (their old friend) to finish up the Imaginaerum tour. Since everything worked well with the band and she fit in the band like a glove (just like she was meant to be the singer of Nightwish), they asked her to stay, which she did. Floor has been the singer now since 2012. I really enjoyed your reaction to the video, it made me smile so hard. Thank you!
Except that I disagree Anette not being good live! That's the legend zealous Floor fans push, but to me it's complete ballony. What role of Tarja in the band was Marcelo trying to change?
@@Aurinkohirvi I'm a "zealous Floor fan" but I disagree with your statement completely. I happen to think Annette was/is a very good singer; she'd not have been in Nightwish if she was not. The problem with Anette was not that she was not a good vocalist, but rather that her style was too poppy for the band. Especially after Tarja, who is a classically trained singer. Also, Annette is a mezzo-soprano, so her range is different; a little lower. It was difficult for her to sing songs written for Tarja and the range Tarja has. For example, if you listen to Ever Dream with Annette singing, she has to drop her voice into a lower register where Tarja sang the higher notes. I presume that many fans heard this (and other situations where the song was altered to fit Annette's vocal range) as "not being good live." This has nothing to do with her quality as a singer, which a lot of people seem to misunderstand, but her natural range being what it is. People have a set limit on their range. this has to do with the vocal chords, not someone's ability. Someone can improve their effective range by training the higher and lower extremes of their range to be stronger. However, they cannot extend past that set limit; a limit imposed upon them by their very anatomy. In short, while Annette is a fantastic singer, she was a poor fit for the band.
If you look at the men when they perform Sleeping Sun, where their part is little compared to Tarja's, you realize how much they are into instruments and how little they are into voice. Marco is ok though , but I believe their collective ego fired Tarja . Maybe Tarja's husband had his part in that event . Maybe she went diva, I do not know, but clearly their ego is as high as The Empire State Building.
@@Aurinkohirvi I like anette on her two albums, and a lot of her live stuff is really good too. But a lot of it isn't as well. The live stuff I've watched with her seems very inconsistent, some days she was brilliant, other days, not so much. Consistency is key for a good live performer, even more than outright ability like Tarja or Floor I think. In the studio you have as many times as you like to get it just right. Live, you only have one. A band the size and musical style of Nightwish can't afford (in my opinion) to have a singer that's all over the place live.
My favorite version of phantom by far. Marco's voice just adds to any performance and Tarja is incredible also. You should definitely check out more of Marco. Nightwish High hopes And The Islander are great songs
Hi; I loved your reaction. Here is the answer of the question. The first lady (Tarja Turunen) was fired because things didn't worked as they wanted and a lot changed since she married in 2000. In fact, this is her last concert with them in 2005. She was notified by an open letter. In 2007, Anette Olzon was the second singer and things didn't worked again because she isn't a classical singer, so fans tried to bash her a lot. She was fired in 2012 and the circumstances are still a bit tricky because she was fired in a middle of a tour, pregnant and she was really sick when they decided to perform without her. She made a last concert in October of that year. The following night, Floor Jansen (The one in the Ghost love socre video) filled for her and she had better luck. Fans loved her because her long career with her previous band After Forever, and as you saw, she is classical trained, but also has a lot of pop and rock elements in her singing. Hope this can clarify your question. Thank you for the video and I recomend you for the next: Nightwish The Siren Live at Gampel Open air 2008 with her second vocalist Anette Olzon.
Tarja was fired from NW with a public letter in internet and second singer was Anette olzon she is like pop singer and now is the spectacular Floor Jansen. Tarja has amazing songs and videos rock and classical music. songs like :Supremacy, until my last breath, innocence and other classical performance like song to the moon, carmen.
Good. I also recommend the songs SLAYING THE DREAMER, THE SIREN, WISHMASTER, PLANET HELL, SLEEPING SUN, NEMO from this concert. Tarja is a great in these songs.
IMHO it is sad that nearly all Tarja reactions come from this End of an Era concert. Understandable, as it was the only live concert they fully recorded in Tarja's era. Because they had changed Tarja's singing style from classical to more contemporary in her two last albums, and this is her very last concert where she sings a lot that style. But she sings much more beautiful in classical style than contemporary. Much better Tarja's live songs IMHO you could find for example in Tampere Pakkahuone concert, when she still sang classical style.
First- Thank you so much for reacting to more Nightwish! Marco, the bassist singing the male part here, also sings backup on several other songs. He sings lead on The Islander, which you could take a look at live at Tempere! I'd highly recommend it, it shows off even more of what he can do and is a nice change of pace for Nightwish. Tarja was the original singer for Nightwish, and she was childhood friends with Jukka (Drums up until recently) and Tuomas ('Jack Sparrow', keys, and composer). She left the band somewhat dramatically in 2005 over professional differences (And some say because she was gearing up for a solo career anyway). The reasons why depend a lot on who you ask, but the summation is that she and the other band members weren't getting along well enough to perform anymore. Anette was chosen after Tarja left. She stayed from 2007 - 2012, but also wound up having differences with the band. (I'm sure someone else will go into that whole thing, I don't know enough about it to say- I'm not a huge fan of Anette.) She left and was almost immediately replaced with Floor Jansen, whom the band had previously toured with. (Floor was with ReVamp at the time, I think?) Tuomas has said he had Floor in mind even before Anette officially left, and she finished that tour with them in her place. Floor and Troy were both invited to join the band formally in 2013 and have been with Nightwish since then. Plenty of us Nightwish fans have been listening since way back when Tarja sang lead, and to me, the important part is that the band is still going and they still have the same soul in their music as they always have. Whoever is singing lead, Tuomas is the real secret behind making Nightwish what it is. Even if Floor left (And I really hope she never does, because I love her!) I would still listen as long as Tuomas was the one writing the songs.
The Phantom's character is twisted, corrupted, evil. Christine is pure, angelic and good. This is what didn't make sense to me in most versions, you need a "demon", you can't have two angels. You need the Phantom to SOUND twisted, a voice that is beautiful in the same disturbing way Goya's "Saturn Devouring His Son" is beautiful. Also the "anxiety" created by the band emphasized Christine's struggle and catharsis when hitting her highest note. It seems to me that with all it's flaws, this is one of the better versions of this piece. Not the best, but it has a lot of things to teach.
Marco, the singing bassist, is actually the frontman of his own band Tarot, in addition to either singing duets, backing vocals as well as being the primary vocalist for some songs. I especially like the song The Islander which is sung by him. Give him a good listen when you have the time, I'm sure you'll find lots of more great suggestions in the comments
I don't consider myself a fan of nightwish but I always liked the band since I was 16 or something, I'v heard some of the history of the band and as I understand, they let Tarja go because of her attitude she was to sum it up a bit of a diva, not attending to band meetings and rehearsals, apathetic with other members of the band, so Toumas ("Jacksparrow") which is the composer and keyboardist of the band and old friend of Tarja decided to let her go, in fact this concert was the last one they had, in one of the songs of this same concert I can't remember which one you can see him almost crying, after that they got Anette Olzon which didn't lasted too long and then Floor Jansen, Toumas actually felt really bad about the Tarja situation that he felt depressed and a bit suicidal, so he composed a song base on his feelings in those hard moments "The poet and the pendulum", which is actually a really good song to react to (I especially like the live version sang by Floor instead of Anette).
Yeah... There was some friction there from she got married. The husband was very dominating and claimed a lot of royalties on her behalf, though she didnt Write much ir anything. 50% or so i believe i've heard. Also.. as you said she didnt show up to the rehearsals, and was quite much in Argentina. During the last years there were also presented some plans of going solo, which made them even more insecure about the future, so i Guess they didnt see any other way out than firing her. Thus this was a deicision done by the Whole band, Tuomas was the one who got the blame, and a Whole lot of hate-mail from angry "Tarja-fans".
A little one sided...or at least uneven. Never mind that Tuomas was infatuated with Tarja and resented she had married someone else....as reflected in several songs....or that the band was objecting to things like her not travelling on the tour bus....when they were drinking all the time, something she said she found it hard to be around....the apathy also can, in part, be explained by the band not being particularly friendly towards her husband. Any way you slice it, the way the band behaved, posting an open letter, not discussing things in private, hurling accusations and even reflecting a few things in songs in a rather unpleasant way (Master Passion Greed anyone) or a few of the things suggested int he open letter such as "cultural differences" were utterly unnecessary and wholly distasteful and immature....not to mention underhand and sneaky.
@@Le1fur I agree completely with you. They were supposed to be childhood friends but they fired her with an open letter, like she was yesterday trash, so disrespectful. It's easy to say that she had diva attitudes instead of recognizing that they were drunk most all the time, making hard and uncomfortable for everyone
Best version of this song I've ever listened to, and I've heard hundreds! I've gone back and listened to the Sarah Brightman version after this and it is not half as good as this! 🤘
Hello and thank you for doing this video! As for why Tarja (the first vocalist) left, drama and creative differences between her, her husband on one side and the band leader Tuomas (keyboardist) on the other.
I like to compare the differences in their voices to Beauty and the Beast. They fit together so well. One is rough and gritty and the other smooth and beautiful. It's truly a special thing.
It works amazingly!!!! And Marco has a phenomenal voice! He can do so many different things! Check 'the Islander' live in Tampere for a taste 😉 Great reaction!
Don't know if somebody has mentioned this already, but listen to Marco singing High Hopes (Pink Floyd). You wouldn't think those sort of vocals would work on a song so plaintive but it does and brilliantly.
Lmao! Omg that look you gave the camera in the beginning at 1:48 seconds is PRICELESS! You can see you’re literally scared of what you’re about to hear! Lol glad you enjoyed it! I loved the performance too and your reaction! And I’ve said before, so glad you put “oh dear” back in the beginning montage of your vids. You had a different one up for awhile without #ohdear and it was missed! That’s like your trademark word! Lol
I really enjoy seeing someone who is not normally a metal fan, but who has musical training/musical knowledge, listening to Nightwish and enjoying it; potentially becoming a fan. All the musicians in Nightwish are very good. Likewise, Tuomas (the keyboardist aka 'Jack Sparrow') is a phenomenal composer; he writes roughly 90% of the band's material, including the arrangements that go to the symphonies and choirs that record with them. (I've heard they record with the London Symphony Orchestra but I am unsure what choir they use. They then use the prerecorded tracks in their live shows, which I imagine is a very difficult task for their tech person in charge of synching up the recorded tracks with the band's live playing.) Marko (the bassist who also sings) is a great singer as well. He harmonizes well with the ladies (all three different NW female lead vocalists). If you would like to hear more Marko, there are several recommendations, depending upon whether you wish to hear his distorted voice, or his clean vocals. He has a beautiful clean voice! Romanticide from Wacken 2013 is a good one for distorted, as is Yours Is An Empty Hope, from Wembley 2015. Clean, I'd recommend The Islander from Tampere. The comment about your seeing Jack Sparrow every time you looked at Tuomas made me literally laugh out loud. :-)
Finally a reactor who gives Marco the props he deserves! Everyone always talks about how great Tarja is (which yes she's amazing) but I've always felt like Marco is the star of this performance. Blows me away every time I listen.
A more Gothic version! I kind of preferred him to her, but they worked well together and it was pretty original! She could really cut it at the end too! Just gloriously over the top! I agree with what you say about this seeming like what Webber intended. It captured a real energy. Love the finale!
It does work. If Phantom had been done like that originally I would have been more of a fan. Tarja was shown the door. Straight after that concert, in fact. An event which directly leads to another Nightwish epic piece with an awesome vocal performance, Poet and The Pendulum. Something of a saga that you might be able to read up on while you’re checking out the Nightwish ladies.
Tbh the really awesome vocal performance of Poet and the Pendulum only came with Floors interpretation of it. Anette was good, but Floor took it to another level - again. For me, her performance of this song at Wembley 2015 is her masterpiece. That longing, that sadness, that anger, that love. Brings tears in my eyes just writing about it.
Not sure if one of the other 400 comments brought this up but they have a VERY heavy Finish accent and that's the vowel thing I think you're hearing. As for Tarja gasping, I think this song was 15 or 20 minutes into a very high energy set while she had the flu. It's amazing she had the lungs left to perform like this at all. I thought your review was spot on. Enjoyed the video. Oh, and greetings from Mississippi :D
I love watching your videos, even though I'm not much into pop. When I saw you'd reviewed Nightwish, I was so happy! :) Nightwish introduced me to symphonic metal and Tarja is, by far, my favourite of the 3.
Nice reaction! Tarja was the frist Singer and she's amazing! You should try The Siren, Ever Dream, Nemo from the same concert of this vídeo. I think you're gonna love them!
Please no, not from this concert! Tarja sings much more beautiful in classical style than in contemporary style. She sings her first 3 albums in classical style, and her last 2 albums more contemporary style. This was her very last concert so she is in contemporary mode here. Not so pretty. Also she was very sick. Unfortunately this is the only live concert they recorded with Tarja, but there are some decent recordings for example from Tampere Pakkahuone concert, her classical period. Each song from there are much better than from End of an Era concert.
You could look for "Amaranth" by Nightwish, there's a version with Anette Olzon, and a demo with Marko, the bass player you just heard. And damn it works, there are lotta metal band with sopranos ... try Therion ♥
I was about to write a small essay about nightwish and their history as I just stumbled upon your channel because of your nightwish reacts, but I notice there was a far better one already written. Love your honest reactions, keep the honesty flowing and never stop being true to your opinions!
Next try Floor Jansen as a guest singer for another Symphonic Metal band called: "Epica" the song is: "Sancta Terra - Featuring Floor Jansen", from their Live Retrospect Concert. They had a full orchestra on stage and it was AMAZING.
Seen this video time again time... and your reaction also... I come to back to this when I want to see a surprised face ;) It is bloody good song by Andrew and this is bloody good version. Thank you
You are absolutely refreshing! Just learned of your channel this evening, and I've already watched a couple of videos. You really seem to know what your talking about. Subscribed :-).
I really like Marco's version of the phantom, and that combined with Tarja's voice? Loved it
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If I remember well that kind of rock singing is based on classical singing, just by hearing them the vibratos are quite similar, the way they belt are similar. I may be wrong tho. And I think that the fact that both were often on the same exact frequencies helped it work
This is apparently the wording of the letter sent by Nightwish's members to Tarja right after this concert/show (see link). It would seem that all the band members bar Tarja (and the audience/crowd) knew at the time that this was the end for her in the band. nightwish.fandom.com/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Tarja_Turunen
Your country and your neighbours have done so much to sustain and evolve metal where it has been sidelined and ridiculed in other countries. We owe you all so much collectively. Thank You all.
Tarja received a letter by the band during the end of their last tour, in which she was announced that she would no longer work with Nightwish. The reasons seemed a bit personal, related to her manager/husband and her character not being aligned with the values of the band. I don't know how true that letter was, and I don't really care about some of the accusations. Their last tour's DVD was named "End of an Era", so I believe it was premeditated by the band to be that way. Then they got Anette, who was probably a way to transition the band to sounds closer to Floor's (last singer) voice. After the way they broke their ties with Anette, I became more skeptical of the "open letter" approach to Tarja. Because, again it looked as a planned action to temporarily use Anette.
Tarja Turunen, the original singer - the one in the video, was kicked out of group after the concert you've just reacted to. It was a massive scandal in Finland. Tarja is a classically trained lyric soprano. And she often takes vocal lessons, because she is very respectful of her vocal instrument. She has been in the group for 10 years and due to her vocal abilities and the colour of her voice the group made their sound. Since the departure from the group she has released 4 solo albums (not counting Christmas and other classical albums). Some of the albums even went platinum. Nightwish is now on their 3rd singer if I'm not mistaken. There are rumours that the 2nd one was kicked out when she got pregnant. Would love it if you would react to more Tarja stuff. Her songs with Nightwish or her solo works (classical or not, she even made a classical album of different versions of Ave Maria). :) P.S. - the Jack Sparrow guy you mentioned is actually the leader of the band who writes most of their songs.
"There are rumours that the 2nd one was kicked out when she got pregnant." - The story is that she was kicked out, because she was mad that they performed live with two other singers, while she was sick, on their US tour. She wanted the concert to be cancelled, but they did not - she did not want people to pay for tickets and not get what they paid for.
Anette was fired when she was pregnant, yes. Was this the reason she got fired? I highly doubt that. However. They were in the middle of a tour that had another year left, with the finale as headliner on Wacken open air. Not making sure to absolutely protect yourself from getting pregnant mid tour is a rather irresponsible thing to do. But I still think the band would have been lenient towards this if the chemistry between her and the band was good. Was the pregnancy the sole reason? Probably not. Was it the straw that broke the camel's back? I think that would be a much more reasonable assumption. But in the end, these are little more than mere rumors and speculation.
They kicked second singer not of pregnancy, but because she become lazy, toxic, and so on. You just look at her performance and you will understood. If i would be Tuomas, i would kick her much earlier. I just don't like how they did that with both singers, little bit more respect would be better
When Anette was rushed to the ER from the concert venue, the guys were unsure what to do about the show. Tuomas and Troy walked to the stage and told the audience what was going on. Then they asked what the people, who had paid for the show, wanted them to do. The audience wanted to see them play even without Anette. Two female vocalists from the supporting bands started to go through the lyrics and sang what they could. Only a few people wanted their money back after the show. :)
Adorei você, descobri seu canal por acaso, e amei seu jeito e você ainda oferece as legendas em português que ajuda muito as pessoas ter acesso a você, obrigado :3
on top of the fact Tarja was fighting a virus (and could barely sing during practice), Jukka (the drummer) was fending off a nasty migraine. Nightwish has performed when one or more of their members were sick and they hit such phenomenal performances. Also too Tarja speaks English as a fifth language at least so some of her vocals show it. Marko seems to blow people's socks off when they hear him full sing. Definitely recommend some of the songs he did lead on (Islander, While Their Lips are Still Red, Higher Hopes). To me, Marko was the real voice of Nightwish even if the female leads (Tarja, Anette and now Floor) are all top-tier in their craft.
Tarja and Marco was the best thing, musically speaking, that gave us Nightwish as a band for so many years, an unbeatable duo within the Metal scene! Sadly the band and Tarja had internal problems that led the band to put an end to a great era with Tarja as the female singer! Thank you very much for this video, every day I enjoy watching your videos so much more!!!
About the Tarja' departure, Tuomas wrote ¨The poet and the pendulum¨ This one particularly is pretty emotional, talks about himself during the time he had to let Tarja go and the depression he had about it besides the media storm he had to struggle. He divided the whole song into 5 parts, like a theatre play or something, pretty awaesome. The title of the song and some ideas are based on the work of Edgar Allan Poe "The pit and the pendulum" (The well and the pendulum), where a man waits in a dark room, empty and wet for his execution in the end dies beheaded by a blade that fell on his neck (that's why the sound of the blade before the last part of the song entitled "Mother and Father" begins) a half-moon blade balancing like a pendulum.
There are places in Marco's parts where he sings very cleanly - so you know the growl he mostly uses was a *choice*. I think it works wonderfully, it adds a primal menace to the Phantom part that is missing from the more classical versions. Yes, they really do make it seem like the song was meant to be done this way.
Great video, I love your low-key style. The reason it sounds like it was meant to be this way is because the original has a huge sound, there's an entire orchestra backing up the cast. Nightwish's version really keys into that, just amping up what is essentially a soft rock number into a harder style. And, yeah, that guy can just pound out the vocals; I really love his voice. It's so unique.
Marco brings the menace to the Phantom that no one else ever did. That character is not an urbane gentleman, but a crazed killer lost in his delusion. Bravo to him!
Great reaction! I am late replying. So for me, I love - adore really - Tarja's vowels in this. It's a little fanciful and different, and has such character. Obviously, her voice has such depth and resonance. And Marko - he is perfect for the Phantom, because for me, that part should be sung much more menacingly and with much more contrast than Christine. It just makes the Phantom that much better. You of course need to be able to sing up to Christine's range to be able to harmonize and make that work, and Marko can do it. The arrangement from Tuomos is amazing too. The constant tone during Christine's opening just sets the tone perfectly. This is the best performance of Phantom of the Opera I have ever heard. The heavier, rockier tone is also in my opinion better than what most productions do with it, although part of it is the high level of musicianship here. I think it should always be done this way and this is the bar to aspire to.
Nightwish are an awesome live band - very hard rocking but incredibly melodic. Aside from their original songs, a lot of their cover song choices are inspired.
Bassist Marco Hietala is a superb rock singer. In fact, whenever Nightwish is demoing new material for an album it's him who comes in and does all of the vocals.
So nice to see you embracing heavy metal, Georgina! I'm both a pop and a metal fan myself, so I've learnt there's always a moment for every music style. Anyway, unfortunately Tarja was kicked out of the band in quite a rude way, in 2005, as other people already mentioned here. Since then, she has made a solid career as a solo artist.
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Tarja had a flu on that concert day, she wasn't quite at her best but did very good job nevertheless.
About vocalist changes; basically Tarja and her husband/manager and rest of the band (and their management) were pulling in different directions. Tarja was replaced by Anette Olzon, who was pure rock/pop vocalist with some musical theater background. Wonderful singer on her own, but maybe not best fit for Nightwish.
On 2012 Imaginaerum-tour, she had some health issues and she was also pregnant. Because NA tour was very important for a band, they didn't want to cancel any shows but use temporary vocalists instead. Shit basically hit the fan in Denver, where the audience was already inside the venue - Alissa White Gluz and Elize Ryd came to rescue and they had quite unusual "karaoke night". Anette was very upset about temporary replacements, and she also knew that Floor Jansen was coming to help the band for the rest of the tour if needed (Floor had 48 hours to learn the whole setlist). I don't think that sit well with Anette either, so once again personal differences were so fundamental that they had to part ways with the singer. Floor did amazing job for the rest of the Imaginaerum-tour, and after the tour Floor Jansen and multi-instrumentalist Troy Donockley became permanet members of the band.
My opinion about line-up changes: those are natural for a band which has been around for 20 years. Personal differences, health issues, you name it. Those things happen. But, they handled situation with Tarja poorly, causing unnecessary drama with that "open letter" to Tarja, media and fans. I don't know what they could have done differently with Anette though. Cancel the tour?
Anyway, Floor has been in a band for 6 years now and everything seems to be going smoothly and professionally. It's like they are finally complete band, with everybody on the same page, and pulling in same direction.
I think that is the most even-handed explanation I have ever read - kudos to you!
It seems that band is quite happy now, on some interview Tuomas said that Floor is at home now(After joined Nightwish), Floor and other members agree on that.
Good base to the future....For the band and for the fans/audience.
The flu doesn't excuse the horrendous cheese she was performing.
Great, concise description.
@@Qwerty-ks8dn Tf are you talking about?
You mentioned Tarja's strange vowels, but I quite like it when I can hear an accent through the singing. Tarja is Finnish, so I like that she sounds Finnish when she sings.
Yes, like honestly, I'm listening for the overall music, not the vowel pronunciation. For all I care, Tarja can say vowels however she wants, since she sings it amazingly regardless.
That's one of the things I like with Tatiana from Jinjer too, her Ukrainian accent and pronunciations come through from time to time and it gives the performance an extra natural feel.
Tarja also trained in Germany, where the techniques will twist voices
Agree, its her accent
yes it’s her accent and I don’t like it!
I see everyone talkin about Tarja but YESSSS I love that you recognise Marco and how his style is ALSO Great for this song, even though youre a purist. Thank you!
@merja hassinen Marco is a more conventional rock guitarist- he was recruited specifically to sing parts Tarja might not be able to use her operatic voice to sing
Sevrion He was the star of this song in my opinion. Wow!
Oh you can find better. For me, it would be Lesley Garrett and the peoples choice, Sierra.
That's right! Since Tuomas and Marco are still there, nightwish will keep alive.
They both were amazing for This song
The energy was quite unbelievable, I was there. Great concert and I'm happy to see Marco Hietala getting some appreciation, he has such a great voice and the combination of his and Tarja's voice is really what makes the song great.
so lucky T_T
OMG you are so so lucky to be there!!!!!!!!
Omg are you serious!!? You were in the presence of one of the best performance in history there's no doubt, im so jealous lol....
Great reaction! Marco sounds good with all singers he performs with, he is a great musician overall...
He really is. His stage presence as a featured artist in performances is undeniable as well. Always looks so natural and fun on stage.
I like his work on Tarot too ! The harmonizing with the other keyboarder/vocal in the band is good . Really talented composer as well !
even solo like you can see while his masked singer moments :D
Marco's voice bring a more sinister/eerie feel to the song, and you almost become fearfull of what will happend when Tarja hits those notes at the end of the song. I do believe I read somewhere that Andrew lloyd Webber, really loved this version of the song.
And then she blows you awayyy. Better than the one on the record.
This channel just gets better and better. Keep up the great work Georgina, this video gave me goose-bumps. xxx
Marco is a veteran, he started in 1982 in a band called Tarot. I love his work and the guest apperances in Delain is amazing to.
I love how this vocal coach is not hating and not being rude, she's actually really nice and sweet also 😍 subscribed
Tarja was studying classical singing when she got invited into a band by her former school mates, and they decided to go symphonic metal to fit music for her voice. Her first 3 albums she sang classical style, but they changed her singing style into more contemporary style in her two last albums (change I really didn't fancy).
Tarja and the band had problems in the world tours, it's mentioned both in the open letter - the band wrote a letter as an explanation why they fired her - and in the press confrence Tarja gave a bit after, she thought that the touring was behind the problems they had. Tarja and her husband-agent tried to get Nightwish reduce the amount of gigs, because she felt her voice and health couldn't take several gigs every week, but the band wanted to keep the gigs: that divided them into two camps. There is this quite popular theory too, that this "Jack Sparrow" there, Tuomas, the composer of Nightwish songs, had a romantic interest on Tarja, but she married another one, and jealousy stepped in. Tarja's husband in fact said in his letter's to Nightwish fans twice that this was so, and he even discussed about it with Tuomas.
Anyway, Tarja had already told she would retire the band after the next album's world tour. But they fired her in advance before that next album, right after this concert. So she wasn't disapointed that she got fired, she was already leaving. But she was disapoined on the way the firing was done, and that the relationships in the band had gone so bad they gave her a letter instead talking to her (that's the part where she cried in her press confrence). The firing and the open letter left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and poisoned the fandom for a long time. There was some really rude things said, and I do regard it a biased and misleading letter, which left things unsaid. Tarja's one and a half hours long press confrence on the contrary was quite detailed.
although Once was the album in which Tarja felt more happy with the placement of her voice. :)
Nice reaction, you really should check more Nightwish and specially Marco -> go for Pink Floyd cover with "High Hopes" from the End of An Era show
For Marco, you really need stuff like the Islander or I wish I had an angel!
No, I agree with OP that High Hopes is probably the best showcase of Marco's voice. Marco's strength is in his versatility and High Hopes shows off his every aspect. The Islander and Wish I Had an Angel are both much more one-dimensional songs.
High Hopes is great, I agree, but I much prefer 'Tides'...one of my favourite songs ever and sung amazingly by Marco with his band 'Tarot' 😊
My goosebumps tells it all .........
This vocalist, Tarja Turunen, was fired from the band with an open letter directly after this concert back in 2005.
She had been with the band since the start in 1996.
As one might assume, a lot of drama ensued. (Still somewhat ongoing, by the way.)
Two years later, in 2007, they hired Anette Olsson.
Anette was fired in 2012 during the Imaginaerum tour in the US.
Floor Jansen was then asked to step in, starting on their next concert. In two days.
She accepted, and is still their current vocalist.
Why did they fire her? She sounds absolutely incredible to me xx
@TheBlackiwid You're correct. She was going to leave anyway, so they asked her to leave before she left of her own free will.
Either way, it was coming to an end. The main problem was the way in which it was handled, not the fact she left. She was going to do that anyway.
Well I've listened Tarja's hour and a half long Finnish press confrence where she goes very detailed on what was happening in the band, why she left, and issued in the letter. In her opinon the main problem was the world tours. They were having several gigs each week during the tour, and Tarja felt it was too much for her voice and her health: she wanted to cut the amount of the gigs, but the band wanted to keep the gigs. This divided them into two opposing camps. Because Tarja saw that she can't do such world tours any more, she gave her notice to the band: she said she will retire after next album's world tour. And that she would not tour next time but tops two weeks at a time (found also in the open letter, where this attitude was found problematic by the band).
There may be also reasons that were not told in the letter nor in Tarja's press confrence. Jealousy could be one of them. In his answers to Nightwish fans Tarja's husband Marcelo twice says Tuomas was romantically interested in Tarja, and claims he had a talk about it with Tuomas too. This is quite a popular and well known theme among NW fans.
It is always interesting to see your reaction to this type of music. It is good to see that music is not dependent on style but rather on quality!
That's a hard question - why did Tarja leave. You will get so many answers from one side and the other side, believe me. But long story short - the band had been together at that point for 9 years and since they all were young, lots of stupid things happened - like lots of alcohol and partying - Tarja (the singer) were never a fan of this, so she found a solace of one south american manager who started to manage her business life, including her role in the band. In the end, it didn't sit well with the other band members, specially when her and her manager were grearing up for her solo career and they fired her with an open letter. It was a huge scandal in Finland and it took the band many years to recover. They also had a middle singer Anette (who was really good at albums but not soo good live) and they fired her almost on the same reasons as Tarja - what she wanted and the band wanted were two different things. Since Anette was fired in the middle of the tour, they flew in Floor Jansen from The Netherlands (their old friend) to finish up the Imaginaerum tour. Since everything worked well with the band and she fit in the band like a glove (just like she was meant to be the singer of Nightwish), they asked her to stay, which she did. Floor has been the singer now since 2012.
I really enjoyed your reaction to the video, it made me smile so hard. Thank you!
Except that I disagree Anette not being good live! That's the legend zealous Floor fans push, but to me it's complete ballony.
What role of Tarja in the band was Marcelo trying to change?
That's a very good summary. And a reasonable way to tell the story.
@@Aurinkohirvi I'm a "zealous Floor fan" but I disagree with your statement completely. I happen to think Annette was/is a very good singer; she'd not have been in Nightwish if she was not. The problem with Anette was not that she was not a good vocalist, but rather that her style was too poppy for the band. Especially after Tarja, who is a classically trained singer.
Also, Annette is a mezzo-soprano, so her range is different; a little lower. It was difficult for her to sing songs written for Tarja and the range Tarja has. For example, if you listen to Ever Dream with Annette singing, she has to drop her voice into a lower register where Tarja sang the higher notes. I presume that many fans heard this (and other situations where the song was altered to fit Annette's vocal range) as "not being good live." This has nothing to do with her quality as a singer, which a lot of people seem to misunderstand, but her natural range being what it is.
People have a set limit on their range. this has to do with the vocal chords, not someone's ability. Someone can improve their effective range by training the higher and lower extremes of their range to be stronger. However, they cannot extend past that set limit; a limit imposed upon them by their very anatomy. In short, while Annette is a fantastic singer, she was a poor fit for the band.
If you look at the men when they perform Sleeping Sun, where their part is little compared to Tarja's, you realize how much they are into instruments and how little they are into voice. Marco is ok though , but I believe their collective ego fired Tarja . Maybe Tarja's husband had his part in that event . Maybe she went diva, I do not know, but clearly their ego is as high as The Empire State Building.
@@Aurinkohirvi I like anette on her two albums, and a lot of her live stuff is really good too. But a lot of it isn't as well. The live stuff I've watched with her seems very inconsistent, some days she was brilliant, other days, not so much. Consistency is key for a good live performer, even more than outright ability like Tarja or Floor I think. In the studio you have as many times as you like to get it just right. Live, you only have one. A band the size and musical style of Nightwish can't afford (in my opinion) to have a singer that's all over the place live.
She had the flu, I think, during this performance.
So that might explain some of the gasping.
No maybe this is her accent in English.
T René how do you know ?
T René yes thats correct. Tarja was sick on this show.
I like your reaction and thank you for appreciating Marco's voice.
My favorite version of phantom by far. Marco's voice just adds to any performance and Tarja is incredible also. You should definitely check out more of Marco. Nightwish High hopes And The Islander are great songs
Hi; I loved your reaction. Here is the answer of the question. The first lady (Tarja Turunen) was fired because things didn't worked as they wanted and a lot changed since she married in 2000. In fact, this is her last concert with them in 2005. She was notified by an open letter.
In 2007, Anette Olzon was the second singer and things didn't worked again because she isn't a classical singer, so fans tried to bash her a lot. She was fired in 2012 and the circumstances are still a bit tricky because she was fired in a middle of a tour, pregnant and she was really sick when they decided to perform without her. She made a last concert in October of that year. The following night, Floor Jansen (The one in the Ghost love socre video) filled for her and she had better luck. Fans loved her because her long career with her previous band After Forever, and as you saw, she is classical trained, but also has a lot of pop and rock elements in her singing.
Hope this can clarify your question.
Thank you for the video and I recomend you for the next: Nightwish The Siren Live at Gampel Open air 2008 with her second vocalist Anette Olzon.
Face it, when you put Tarja in her element, she is unbelievable!!!
nowadays, she is superb in any setting
@@marchon2578 For obvious reasons, i do not doubt it :)
Tarja was fired from NW with a public letter in internet and second singer was Anette olzon she is like pop singer and now is the spectacular Floor Jansen. Tarja has amazing songs and videos rock and classical music. songs like :Supremacy, until my last breath, innocence and other classical performance like song to the moon, carmen.
ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Good. I also recommend the songs SLAYING THE DREAMER, THE SIREN, WISHMASTER, PLANET HELL, SLEEPING SUN, NEMO from this concert. Tarja is a great in these songs.
IMHO it is sad that nearly all Tarja reactions come from this End of an Era concert. Understandable, as it was the only live concert they fully recorded in Tarja's era. Because they had changed Tarja's singing style from classical to more contemporary in her two last albums, and this is her very last concert where she sings a lot that style. But she sings much more beautiful in classical style than contemporary.
Much better Tarja's live songs IMHO you could find for example in Tampere Pakkahuone concert, when she still sang classical style.
@@Aurinkohirvi And a good concert From Wishes to Eternity to live.
First- Thank you so much for reacting to more Nightwish!
Marco, the bassist singing the male part here, also sings backup on several other songs. He sings lead on The Islander, which you could take a look at live at Tempere! I'd highly recommend it, it shows off even more of what he can do and is a nice change of pace for Nightwish.
Tarja was the original singer for Nightwish, and she was childhood friends with Jukka (Drums up until recently) and Tuomas ('Jack Sparrow', keys, and composer). She left the band somewhat dramatically in 2005 over professional differences (And some say because she was gearing up for a solo career anyway). The reasons why depend a lot on who you ask, but the summation is that she and the other band members weren't getting along well enough to perform anymore.
Anette was chosen after Tarja left. She stayed from 2007 - 2012, but also wound up having differences with the band. (I'm sure someone else will go into that whole thing, I don't know enough about it to say- I'm not a huge fan of Anette.) She left and was almost immediately replaced with Floor Jansen, whom the band had previously toured with. (Floor was with ReVamp at the time, I think?) Tuomas has said he had Floor in mind even before Anette officially left, and she finished that tour with them in her place.
Floor and Troy were both invited to join the band formally in 2013 and have been with Nightwish since then.
Plenty of us Nightwish fans have been listening since way back when Tarja sang lead, and to me, the important part is that the band is still going and they still have the same soul in their music as they always have. Whoever is singing lead, Tuomas is the real secret behind making Nightwish what it is. Even if Floor left (And I really hope she never does, because I love her!) I would still listen as long as Tuomas was the one writing the songs.
I love this version. It gave me chills!
Wow,,, the finale was epic ! :)))
I've always thought Tuomas looked like Jack Sparrow, especially during the Anette era.
Pra mim,essa sem dúvida é a melhor versão.
The Phantom's character is twisted, corrupted, evil. Christine is pure, angelic and good. This is what didn't make sense to me in most versions, you need a "demon", you can't have two angels. You need the Phantom to SOUND twisted, a voice that is beautiful in the same disturbing way Goya's "Saturn Devouring His Son" is beautiful.
Also the "anxiety" created by the band emphasized Christine's struggle and catharsis when hitting her highest note.
It seems to me that with all it's flaws, this is one of the better versions of this piece. Not the best, but it has a lot of things to teach.
What flaws would you point out in this performance? I'm just curious
You can not fault this in any way. Totally amazing.
Marco, the singing bassist, is actually the frontman of his own band Tarot, in addition to either singing duets, backing vocals as well as being the primary vocalist for some songs. I especially like the song The Islander which is sung by him. Give him a good listen when you have the time, I'm sure you'll find lots of more great suggestions in the comments
I love seeing you so excited🥰Loved this video❤️
I don't consider myself a fan of nightwish but I always liked the band since I was 16 or something, I'v heard some of the history of the band and as I understand, they let Tarja go because of her attitude she was to sum it up a bit of a diva, not attending to band meetings and rehearsals, apathetic with other members of the band, so Toumas ("Jacksparrow") which is the composer and keyboardist of the band and old friend of Tarja decided to let her go, in fact this concert was the last one they had, in one of the songs of this same concert I can't remember which one you can see him almost crying, after that they got Anette Olzon which didn't lasted too long and then Floor Jansen, Toumas actually felt really bad about the Tarja situation that he felt depressed and a bit suicidal, so he composed a song base on his feelings in those hard moments "The poet and the pendulum", which is actually a really good song to react to (I especially like the live version sang by Floor instead of Anette).
Yeah... There was some friction there from she got married. The husband was very dominating and claimed a lot of royalties on her behalf, though she didnt Write much ir anything. 50% or so i believe i've heard. Also.. as you said she didnt show up to the rehearsals, and was quite much in Argentina.
During the last years there were also presented some plans of going solo, which made them even more insecure about the future, so i Guess they didnt see any other way out than firing her. Thus this was a deicision done by the Whole band, Tuomas was the one who got the blame, and a Whole lot of hate-mail from angry "Tarja-fans".
A little one sided...or at least uneven. Never mind that Tuomas was infatuated with Tarja and resented she had married someone else....as reflected in several songs....or that the band was objecting to things like her not travelling on the tour bus....when they were drinking all the time, something she said she found it hard to be around....the apathy also can, in part, be explained by the band not being particularly friendly towards her husband.
Any way you slice it, the way the band behaved, posting an open letter, not discussing things in private, hurling accusations and even reflecting a few things in songs in a rather unpleasant way (Master Passion Greed anyone) or a few of the things suggested int he open letter such as "cultural differences" were utterly unnecessary and wholly distasteful and immature....not to mention underhand and sneaky.
@@Le1fur I agree completely with you. They were supposed to be childhood friends but they fired her with an open letter, like she was yesterday trash, so disrespectful. It's easy to say that she had diva attitudes instead of recognizing that they were drunk most all the time, making hard and uncomfortable for everyone
Best version of this song I've ever listened to, and I've heard hundreds! I've gone back and listened to the Sarah Brightman version after this and it is not half as good as this! 🤘
slash 1971 so true💕🙌🤘
Hello and thank you for doing this video! As for why Tarja (the first vocalist) left, drama and creative differences between her, her husband on one side and the band leader Tuomas (keyboardist) on the other.
I LOVE TARJA AND I LOVE THAT YOU REACT TO THIS... YOU COULD MAKE MORE REACTS ABOUT TARJA'S SOLO CARRER
I like to compare the differences in their voices to Beauty and the Beast. They fit together so well. One is rough and gritty and the other smooth and beautiful. It's truly a special thing.
I think, I'm going to watch your videos from the beginning, because its allow me to learn english better and better, thank you so much !!
well it's a Symphonic Metal version =)
It works amazingly!!!! And Marco has a phenomenal voice! He can do so many different things! Check 'the Islander' live in Tampere for a taste 😉 Great reaction!
Love from Costa Rica ! Thanks for reacting to this
YEES! Thank you, loved the reaction
So much fun seeing your reactions and the joy and pleasure in your face.
I’m on a binge and I think this is my favorite so far. What an amazing performance!!!
Don't know if somebody has mentioned this already, but listen to Marco singing High Hopes (Pink Floyd). You wouldn't think those sort of vocals would work on a song so plaintive but it does and brilliantly.
This channel is getting better and better.
That concert was aaaamazing. I love both Tarja and Marco.
Love, love, love hearing Marco sing...............................
You seems like a very nice and wholesome person, for that reason i subscribed.
Lmao! Omg that look you gave the camera in the beginning at 1:48 seconds is PRICELESS! You can see you’re literally scared of what you’re about to hear! Lol glad you enjoyed it! I loved the performance too and your reaction! And I’ve said before, so glad you put “oh dear” back in the beginning montage of your vids. You had a different one up for awhile without #ohdear and it was missed! That’s like your trademark word! Lol
I really enjoy seeing someone who is not normally a metal fan, but who has musical training/musical knowledge, listening to Nightwish and enjoying it; potentially becoming a fan. All the musicians in Nightwish are very good. Likewise, Tuomas (the keyboardist aka 'Jack Sparrow') is a phenomenal composer; he writes roughly 90% of the band's material, including the arrangements that go to the symphonies and choirs that record with them. (I've heard they record with the London Symphony Orchestra but I am unsure what choir they use. They then use the prerecorded tracks in their live shows, which I imagine is a very difficult task for their tech person in charge of synching up the recorded tracks with the band's live playing.)
Marko (the bassist who also sings) is a great singer as well. He harmonizes well with the ladies (all three different NW female lead vocalists). If you would like to hear more Marko, there are several recommendations, depending upon whether you wish to hear his distorted voice, or his clean vocals. He has a beautiful clean voice! Romanticide from Wacken 2013 is a good one for distorted, as is Yours Is An Empty Hope, from Wembley 2015. Clean, I'd recommend The Islander from Tampere.
The comment about your seeing Jack Sparrow every time you looked at Tuomas made me literally laugh out loud. :-)
Finally a reactor who gives Marco the props he deserves! Everyone always talks about how great Tarja is (which yes she's amazing) but I've always felt like Marco is the star of this performance. Blows me away every time I listen.
Watch Carl John Franz's reaction to this then, he really gives props to Marco.
Try the studio version they did a good job on it
A more Gothic version! I kind of preferred him to her, but they worked well together and it was pretty original! She could really cut it at the end too! Just gloriously over the top! I agree with what you say about this seeming like what Webber intended. It captured a real energy. Love the finale!
It does work. If Phantom had been done like that originally I would have been more of a fan.
Tarja was shown the door. Straight after that concert, in fact. An event which directly leads to another Nightwish epic piece with an awesome vocal performance, Poet and The Pendulum. Something of a saga that you might be able to read up on while you’re checking out the Nightwish ladies.
Tbh the really awesome vocal performance of Poet and the Pendulum only came with Floors interpretation of it. Anette was good, but Floor took it to another level - again. For me, her performance of this song at Wembley 2015 is her masterpiece. That longing, that sadness, that anger, that love. Brings tears in my eyes just writing about it.
...and Anette was shown the Floor :)
Yeah that's the one I was meaning. I can only imagine the comments if Georgina did a reaction to it and it was Anette's!
Tarja is Finnish, English is not her first language. That account for the variation in certain lyrics. She is the best classical singer in Metal.
I love your honest first reaction
I love this performance! I melt every time :D! Loved your reaction!
Thats why i love symphonic metal
Not sure if one of the other 400 comments brought this up but they have a VERY heavy Finish accent and that's the vowel thing I think you're hearing. As for Tarja gasping, I think this song was 15 or 20 minutes into a very high energy set while she had the flu. It's amazing she had the lungs left to perform like this at all. I thought your review was spot on. Enjoyed the video. Oh, and greetings from Mississippi :D
and a throat infection....she is superb
I love watching your videos, even though I'm not much into pop. When I saw you'd reviewed Nightwish, I was so happy! :)
Nightwish introduced me to symphonic metal and Tarja is, by far, my favourite of the 3.
Nice reaction! Tarja was the frist Singer and she's amazing! You should try The Siren, Ever Dream, Nemo from the same concert of this vídeo. I think you're gonna love them!
Please no, not from this concert! Tarja sings much more beautiful in classical style than in contemporary style.
She sings her first 3 albums in classical style, and her last 2 albums more contemporary style. This was her very last concert so she is in contemporary mode here. Not so pretty. Also she was very sick. Unfortunately this is the only live concert they recorded with Tarja, but there are some decent recordings for example from Tampere Pakkahuone concert, her classical period. Each song from there are much better than from End of an Era concert.
It truly was an end of a era
You could look for "Amaranth" by Nightwish, there's a version with Anette Olzon, and a demo with Marko, the bass player you just heard.
And damn it works, there are lotta metal band with sopranos ... try Therion ♥
I was about to write a small essay about nightwish and their history as I just stumbled upon your channel because of your nightwish reacts, but I notice there was a far better one already written.
Love your honest reactions, keep the honesty flowing and never stop being true to your opinions!
Marco kills it. Tarja is incredible of course.
Love the way you react to videos!
Georgina, you're such a sweetheart! 💖🌹🌟🎶
Next try Floor Jansen as a guest singer for another Symphonic Metal band called: "Epica" the song is: "Sancta Terra - Featuring Floor Jansen", from their Live Retrospect Concert. They had a full orchestra on stage and it was AMAZING.
And a choir.
wow this is literally the bigger part of my teen years. Love it still, the long-forgotten good stuff!
still love and follow Tarja who is better than ever
Seen this video time again time... and your reaction also... I come to back to this when I want to see a surprised face ;)
It is bloody good song by Andrew and this is bloody good version.
Thank you
You are absolutely refreshing! Just learned of your channel this evening, and I've already watched a couple of videos. You really seem to know what your talking about. Subscribed :-).
I really like Marco's version of the phantom, and that combined with Tarja's voice? Loved it
If I remember well that kind of rock singing is based on classical singing, just by hearing them the vibratos are quite similar, the way they belt are similar. I may be wrong tho. And I think that the fact that both were often on the same exact frequencies helped it work
This is apparently the wording of the letter sent by Nightwish's members to Tarja right after this concert/show (see link). It would seem that all the band members bar Tarja (and the audience/crowd) knew at the time that this was the end for her in the band. nightwish.fandom.com/wiki/Open_Letter_to_Tarja_Turunen
Oh Dios cómo me encanta su acento is soooo soooo nice and strong!!! I just love it!!
Love seeing youtubers react to people from my country haha
Your country and your neighbours have done so much to sustain and evolve metal where it has been sidelined and ridiculed in other countries. We owe you all so much collectively. Thank You all.
Tarja received a letter by the band during the end of their last tour, in which she was announced that she would no longer work with Nightwish. The reasons seemed a bit personal, related to her manager/husband and her character not being aligned with the values of the band. I don't know how true that letter was, and I don't really care about some of the accusations. Their last tour's DVD was named "End of an Era", so I believe it was premeditated by the band to be that way.
Then they got Anette, who was probably a way to transition the band to sounds closer to Floor's (last singer) voice. After the way they broke their ties with Anette, I became more skeptical of the "open letter" approach to Tarja. Because, again it looked as a planned action to temporarily use Anette.
Great reaction i was impressed with his singing so now I need to check out more Nightwish
Tarja Turunen, the original singer - the one in the video, was kicked out of group after the concert you've just reacted to. It was a massive scandal in Finland.
Tarja is a classically trained lyric soprano. And she often takes vocal lessons, because she is very respectful of her vocal instrument.
She has been in the group for 10 years and due to her vocal abilities and the colour of her voice the group made their sound. Since the departure from the group she has released 4 solo albums (not counting Christmas and other classical albums). Some of the albums even went platinum.
Nightwish is now on their 3rd singer if I'm not mistaken. There are rumours that the 2nd one was kicked out when she got pregnant.
Would love it if you would react to more Tarja stuff. Her songs with Nightwish or her solo works (classical or not, she even made a classical album of different versions of Ave Maria). :)
P.S. - the Jack Sparrow guy you mentioned is actually the leader of the band who writes most of their songs.
"There are rumours that the 2nd one was kicked out when she got pregnant." - The story is that she was kicked out, because she was mad that they performed live with two other singers, while she was sick, on their US tour. She wanted the concert to be cancelled, but they did not - she did not want people to pay for tickets and not get what they paid for.
Anette was fired when she was pregnant, yes. Was this the reason she got fired? I highly doubt that.
However. They were in the middle of a tour that had another year left, with the finale as headliner on Wacken open air.
Not making sure to absolutely protect yourself from getting pregnant mid tour is a rather irresponsible thing to do.
But I still think the band would have been lenient towards this if the chemistry between her and the band was good.
Was the pregnancy the sole reason? Probably not. Was it the straw that broke the camel's back? I think that would be a much more reasonable assumption.
But in the end, these are little more than mere rumors and speculation.
They kicked second singer not of pregnancy, but because she become lazy, toxic, and so on. You just look at her performance and you will understood. If i would be Tuomas, i would kick her much earlier. I just don't like how they did that with both singers, little bit more respect would be better
Thank you all for clearing things up for me. :)
When Anette was rushed to the ER from the concert venue, the guys were unsure what to do about the show. Tuomas and Troy walked to the stage and told the audience what was going on. Then they asked what the people, who had paid for the show, wanted them to do. The audience wanted to see them play even without Anette. Two female vocalists from the supporting bands started to go through the lyrics and sang what they could. Only a few people wanted their money back after the show. :)
Adorei você, descobri seu canal por acaso, e amei seu jeito e você ainda oferece as legendas em português que ajuda muito as pessoas ter acesso a você, obrigado :3
My favorite video so far 🙌🏻💚
Thanks to the UA-cam algorithm that brought me here...WOW
on top of the fact Tarja was fighting a virus (and could barely sing during practice), Jukka (the drummer) was fending off a nasty migraine. Nightwish has performed when one or more of their members were sick and they hit such phenomenal performances. Also too Tarja speaks English as a fifth language at least so some of her vocals show it. Marko seems to blow people's socks off when they hear him full sing. Definitely recommend some of the songs he did lead on (Islander, While Their Lips are Still Red, Higher Hopes). To me, Marko was the real voice of Nightwish even if the female leads (Tarja, Anette and now Floor) are all top-tier in their craft.
Tarja is a legend! She was fired in 2005 and ever since the band made a departure in the operatic style of songs almost.
Tarja and Marco was the best thing, musically speaking, that gave us Nightwish as a band for so many years, an unbeatable duo within the Metal scene! Sadly the band and Tarja had internal problems that led the band to put an end to a great era with Tarja as the female singer! Thank you very much for this video, every day I enjoy watching your videos so much more!!!
Tarja all the way, I got nothing against the new singer but Tarja's voice is so... I cant describe it it's just enchanting.
soul caressing, toe curling, eye popping,skin tingling ear-popping splendor
About the Tarja' departure, Tuomas wrote ¨The poet and the pendulum¨
This one particularly is pretty emotional, talks about himself during the time he had to let Tarja go and the depression he had about it besides the media storm he had to struggle. He divided the whole song into 5 parts, like a theatre play or something, pretty awaesome.
The title of the song and some ideas are based on the work of Edgar Allan Poe "The pit and the pendulum" (The well and the pendulum), where a man waits in a dark room, empty and wet for his execution in the end dies beheaded by a blade that fell on his neck (that's why the sound of the blade before the last part of the song entitled "Mother and Father" begins) a half-moon blade balancing like a pendulum.
Awsome to read that Floor is Dutch.... btw time to do a reaction on Rammstein's Deutschland !!
There are places in Marco's parts where he sings very cleanly - so you know the growl he mostly uses was a *choice*. I think it works wonderfully, it adds a primal menace to the Phantom part that is missing from the more classical versions. Yes, they really do make it seem like the song was meant to be done this way.
Great video, I love your low-key style.
The reason it sounds like it was meant to be this way is because the original has a huge sound, there's an entire orchestra backing up the cast. Nightwish's version really keys into that, just amping up what is essentially a soft rock number into a harder style. And, yeah, that guy can just pound out the vocals; I really love his voice. It's so unique.
Adorei a sua abordagem. Gostaria muito que fosse minha professora 😁. Parabéns pelo canal. Cheers from Brazil.
I really love Marco!
6:45 very slow jaw-drop... :D nice reaction
Marco brings the menace to the Phantom that no one else ever did. That character is not an urbane gentleman, but a crazed killer lost in his delusion. Bravo to him!
Great reaction! I am late replying. So for me, I love - adore really - Tarja's vowels in this. It's a little fanciful and different, and has such character. Obviously, her voice has such depth and resonance. And Marko - he is perfect for the Phantom, because for me, that part should be sung much more menacingly and with much more contrast than Christine. It just makes the Phantom that much better. You of course need to be able to sing up to Christine's range to be able to harmonize and make that work, and Marko can do it. The arrangement from Tuomos is amazing too. The constant tone during Christine's opening just sets the tone perfectly. This is the best performance of Phantom of the Opera I have ever heard. The heavier, rockier tone is also in my opinion better than what most productions do with it, although part of it is the high level of musicianship here. I think it should always be done this way and this is the bar to aspire to.
I love Tarja... thanks for this
Nightwish are an awesome live band - very hard rocking but incredibly melodic. Aside from their original songs, a lot of their cover song choices are inspired.
Bassist Marco Hietala is a superb rock singer. In fact, whenever Nightwish is demoing new material for an album it's him who comes in and does all of the vocals.
So nice to see you embracing heavy metal, Georgina! I'm both a pop and a metal fan myself, so I've learnt there's always a moment for every music style.
Anyway, unfortunately Tarja was kicked out of the band in quite a rude way, in 2005, as other people already mentioned here. Since then, she has made a solid career as a solo artist.