HALF GOLF swing changed my GOLF GAME

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  • in this video to club golfers tried using a half backswing to see if it helpep
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  • @conorharrison4645
    @conorharrison4645 Рік тому +76

    Half swing Jesus never seen more of a full swing in my life 😂😂

  • @kenirving5240
    @kenirving5240 Рік тому +51

    How can Pete decide it doesn’t work for him when he didn’t actually ever do it???😂😂😂

    • @GolfMates
      @GolfMates  Рік тому +4

      Lol that’s so true

    • @laurencegoulty3196
      @laurencegoulty3196 Рік тому +5

      Yeah not a lot of evidence of half swings there pete😊

    • @robinc3307
      @robinc3307 Рік тому +6

      Pete's one and a quarter swing...same as ever....
      It's that extra little bit at the end that messes him up every time....practice swings look great

    • @jjamesd1
      @jjamesd1 Рік тому +1

      Couldnt agree more!

    • @mikemccarthy1398
      @mikemccarthy1398 Рік тому

      exactly🤣🤣

  • @bbucks71
    @bbucks71 Рік тому +19

    Liam, the feel of half or 3/4 swing is really your full swing. It's more a controlled swing. When you over rotate, the timing you use to rotate on the downswing gets more over the top move to compensate to meet the ball. This will also create hitting the ball fat or thin. The golf swing will vary from player to player. So this is a controlled swing where it feels that it's a half to 3/4 swing. There is only a 2-3 feet on the downswing where the power comes from with full extension of the follow through.

    • @ristoaksila5677
      @ristoaksila5677 Рік тому

      True. Little can change (consistency) from a shorter swing.

    • @cromity5
      @cromity5 Рік тому +2

      I had this exact same lesson and what I felt was a half swing was actually a much more controlled full swing.

  • @andykirsh7695
    @andykirsh7695 Рік тому +2

    Two years ago I shortened my backswing. My hands don't go any higher than my shoulders and at the top the butt end of the club is pointing straight down at the ground For me, I feel like I have complete control of the clubhead. I haven't noticed any difference in distance but I have more consistency and taken six shots off the handicap. Now, if I could make some putts.........

  • @paulkeating1376
    @paulkeating1376 Рік тому +1

    Not so much half swing as slow smooth swing.. I found the same 1 day playing links golf. When it's breezy swing it easy and it worked great.. I hit it further

  • @GDJ1957
    @GDJ1957 Рік тому +2

    Pete was still swing full...lol... on most shots

  • @kevingreenacre4670
    @kevingreenacre4670 Рік тому +1

    omp always plays with a half swing , and just look how he plays !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @narkyspark
    @narkyspark Рік тому +2

    OMP should tell you all you need to know. Half swings all day long and generally batters the lot of ya. 😀

  • @billhalyburton4125
    @billhalyburton4125 Рік тому +1

    Ebay moves his body and loses his balance on his backswing (he gets to the apex and goes a bit wobbly) thus it's hard for him to stay on the correct swing plane for hitting the ball square at impact on the downswing.. he tries to correct it on his downswing with his hands and arms and it's very hard to be consistent doing that.. He's fighting that on most of his longer shots.. he fixes that he'll be consistent.. notice he is much more consistent around the greens where his backswing doesn't take him off balance..

  • @andrewmccann5705
    @andrewmccann5705 Рік тому +4

    I've been trying this shorter back swing for a couple of months now and I certainly feel it's improved my game.

  • @ianwaller5700
    @ianwaller5700 Рік тому +3

    Ive used the 1/2 -3/4 swing all my life, i tell myself the less distance the club goes back the less can go wrong.
    Going to start trying out the stack and tilt golf swing this week as i struggle to hit the ball first and this may help.
    Golfers should try new swings you never know what might work for you.
    Great video keep up the good work.

  • @graemesmith3117
    @graemesmith3117 11 місяців тому +1

    Half power but no way some of those were half swings lol

  • @dmitrireavis1729
    @dmitrireavis1729 Рік тому +2

    You need to take a full swing, but use 50% power = more solid contact = better flight and possibly distance

  • @geofffloyd5734
    @geofffloyd5734 Рік тому +1

    Must be good for senior golfers to protect backs and hips ………perhaps 🤷‍♂️. Great video very entertaining
    . Thanks 👍

  • @nealfreeman01
    @nealfreeman01 Рік тому +4

    It's about sequence and flexibility. Pete doesn't quiet turn as much as Liem, so Pete taking a fuller looking swing works for him. Liem gets "stuck' on the downswing if he goes longer than normal... but this is from an armchair golf instructor. lol

  • @jamesbolton2877
    @jamesbolton2877 Рік тому +1

    Ebay Pete is definitely still full swinging .

  • @marktelford3507
    @marktelford3507 Рік тому +1

    I guess if in your head you think you are doing a half or 3/4 swing, which neither of you were, then that slows you down and improves the timing.

  • @noelevans-nu4vr
    @noelevans-nu4vr Рік тому +2

    Hi Liam, Your swing feels like a half swing to you but it’s a lot more controlled by you. This has worked for me, but when you start to feel good about the swing the next thing you want to do is swing harder for more distance, and then the dreaded hook and slice come in. All the best stick at it.

  • @stephencoffey4705
    @stephencoffey4705 Рік тому +1

    I haven't seen a half swing on this video

  • @marceldubois5073
    @marceldubois5073 Рік тому +3

    Pete’s “half” swing with the driver is better than his normal over swung drives!

  • @larryd4352
    @larryd4352 Рік тому +1

    Liam....after reconstructive surgery on my left knee in 1977....which required reattaching my patella tendon to the Tibia, repairing my torn ACL, and removing about 8 inches on my Vastus Lateralis, which was infected beyond being able to have saved the infected area.
    I had to learn how to play golf using a half to 3/4s swing. I ended up carrying a 3 handicap for almost 20 years.

    • @GolfMates
      @GolfMates  Рік тому

      Hope your still playing now larry

  • @zoeyf3471
    @zoeyf3471 Рік тому +1

    When Pete does his practice swing, he keeps his left arm straighter. His swing looks controlled, and fluid during the practice. When he is going to hit the ball, he ends up bending that left arm a lot. I think he's losing power and torque because of that. I like to think about stretching my hands away from the ball, rather than lifting my hands up in the air.

  • @1960livvy
    @1960livvy Рік тому +1

    I'd just say watch John Rahm

  • @kp6007
    @kp6007 Рік тому +2

    This is what the whole ‘feel vs real’ is all about. When I was having lessons, my coach said to do half swings…. when we watched the video back, it looked like I was doing a full swing and he said that the momentum (and your brain) will automatically take you to pretty much a full swing. So whilst you’re not technically doing a half swing, the important thing is that you ‘THINK’ you are.

    • @marklags2396
      @marklags2396 Рік тому +1

      Best comment of the day. So true.

  • @bjweath
    @bjweath Рік тому +1

    To me all it looks like is your slowing your swing down which is something I was told to do when you start your round or in the practise area to get the muscle memory working, then you build the club head speed naturally as it becomes routine. Pete doesn't look like he changed anything he still was trying to knock the cover off the ball.

  • @rodneytravis4852
    @rodneytravis4852 Рік тому +1

    Another Cracking Video... Biggest lesson I have made this year is just this...and LEAVE THE DRIVER IN THE BAG... Cheers Mate....

  • @joeperez3520
    @joeperez3520 Рік тому +1

    Correct about the difficulty making a half-swing.
    It's not the half-swing that's resulting in better, longer shots. It's the RELAXATION in the arms and wrists that you get when you try to make a half-swing and THINK that is what you're doing.

  • @barrykeville5035
    @barrykeville5035 Рік тому +1

    Not shorter but slower getting Liam results. Great video again fellas

  • @mondeogolf
    @mondeogolf Рік тому

    GMF Done ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, you are getting the speed in the right place when doing the half swing Pete always over swings is arms fold , and feel is not real

  • @paulgolfer
    @paulgolfer Рік тому

    Paul, Liam, you think your badly done to , well courses I play in Yorkshire as my handicap is now 18 at Silkstone I get 20 but I am lowest man so get non and yet seems I play better , I think more, so hit it off the tee then what is left what do I play best break it down where is the danger and safe parts , like our plate 2nd green , ditch before it bunker left path right BUT WORST OF ALL THE GREEN YOU HAVE A 1/3 LEFT TO LAND THE BALL OR IT RUNS OFF SHELF AT BACK AND WOODS , so I drive lay up chip on ok par is 4 but 5 is not bad.

  • @ristoaksila5677
    @ristoaksila5677 Рік тому

    Tried it some months ago and it's suppurb. Accelarate smoothly. Good angle of attack and it works. Accuracy increased.

  • @paulgolfer
    @paulgolfer Рік тому

    paul , LIAM, have you tried this , as a fader of a shot ,I now move my back foot back slightly as if playing a draw , but then like walking after it inches downswing I go through so far that my body is past left side of flag , the ball goes straight, DRIVER ROGUE D SET AT -1 D ON A 10° LOFT DRIVER.

  • @paulgolfer
    @paulgolfer Рік тому

    LIAM ,
    Slowing swing down gets more yards BUT in WINTER do the same mechanics work .
    Paul

  • @northernlite3368
    @northernlite3368 Рік тому

    I took the time to review all the video twic. Off all the shots both of you took, one or two were real half swings (3rd hole Pete's 3rd shot) and one was 3/4, (same hole, Liam's 2nd shot) all the others were full swings where the club was parallel to the ground over your heads. You were feeling half swing because you only gave 75 to 80% power to a full swing which is the way golf should be played. Check the following times if you care to: Hole 1 Liam 1:14 and 4:10 club horizontal above the head,...Pete, 2:18 and 3:21 same thing - Hole no 2 Liam 6:52/53, and 9:32 (Congrats, this one was closest to 1/2 I saw) Pete 7:35 and 8:37 Both full above the head - HOLE NO 3 Liam 11:46 full 14:51 and 18:04 were 3/4 - Pete 13:10 full 16:11 7/8 + 18:51 REAL half swing but no follow through this why he muffed it - Hole no 4 Liam 20:51 and 22:42 FULL + Full Pete 21;20 and 22:12 FULL and FULL 23:24 full again - Feel and real are different unless one tales a reference point while executing a slow motion swing. Example: fwd arm parallel to ground and no wrist cock at all, club about 45 degrees to ground upwards. Rotate fwd with a swift movement of the hips and make sure follow through is complete way over the head. It was nice just the same seing you guys putting in the effort. You are not the village idots, nor golf scientists; your eye or your glasses are just out of wack Ha ha ha from CANADA

  • @ffalk11
    @ffalk11 Рік тому +1

    The half-swing is a wonderful thought process over the ball to keep the swing from getting too big and promoting a more pure strike of the ball! Thanks for covering this concept.

  • @paulgolfer
    @paulgolfer Рік тому

    Paul , Liam your back swing reached 11pm through swing 1am good but not half swing

  • @jessandphoebe6996
    @jessandphoebe6996 Рік тому

    Earlier this summer I had a bad back and was unable to play. When I came back, to protect my back I was shortening my swing. My driving for me was better than ever. Now my back is ok and I’m back to my old swing, my driving is back to normal. Rubbish!!!

  • @russellmills2044
    @russellmills2044 Рік тому

    😂😂😂. Pete never once did the half swing.
    Liam, your swing especially with the driver looked much better, so much more controlled. You should definitely adopt this permanently with longer shots

  • @jodyrohde6938
    @jodyrohde6938 Рік тому +1

    I find that when I try to crack a long tee shot, I tend to do more things incorrectly and end up with a bad shot. But, if I slow down and concentrate on my back swing, everything falls into place, and I can hit a great shot. In fact, sometimes slowing down allows me to hit a longer drive that trying to kill one off the tee. Enjoy your videos - keep up the great work!

  • @magicllama9614
    @magicllama9614 Рік тому +2

    Good lord these guys are so fun to watch. I've genuinely learned a lot too that has helped my game enough to shave some strokes.

  • @archiemccafferty9136
    @archiemccafferty9136 Рік тому

    Older players generally lack the flexibility of younger players. We generally subconsciously compensate for this lack of flexibility by loosening our grip at the top to generate what our muscle memory remembers as a "full" swing. If we do this loosening of the grip, we then retighten the grip from the top and quite often this results in an altered swing plane and clubhead position at impact.
    I personally found that what our brain perceives is often significantly different to reality..........video your swing........you will be surprised!!
    Well done Golf Mates!! Another great video and thought provoking information.

  • @patmcgrath289
    @patmcgrath289 Рік тому

    Can smell the food...........same as our club every single round when you get to the 14th. Serious struggle to stay out.

  • @alanrhind4960
    @alanrhind4960 Рік тому

    Half swing my arse🙄. Pete's practice swing is better than his actual swing. If you want to try a half swing technique try using a GEM swing training aid. It will transform your swing technique.

  • @michaelodriscoll
    @michaelodriscoll 10 місяців тому

    Scientists yes,because Scientists do not know, that's what Scientists are about, finding out.
    Super stuff,practice , do as you suggest?
    ❤namaste 🙏

  • @paulmasters2022
    @paulmasters2022 Рік тому

    Sorry Liam I’ve seen more of a Half Swinger at a Snow White and the seven dwarfs after hours party 😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @fishingotheradventuresonke7996

    Half swing? 😂🤣 School report; Must try harder. Great video guys keep up the great work 👍🏌️‍♂️

  • @2Eaglez
    @2Eaglez Рік тому

    As a senior golfer, nearly as old as OMP, I have used a 3/4 swing for years. And watching this video , Liam used about a 3/4 swing, not a half swing.

  • @diggerlenny4836
    @diggerlenny4836 Рік тому

    Not a half swing in sight😅 really hard to do that properly tho. Try starting from back there. No real back swing just hold the club up there behind you and swing away...be tricky aswel tho wouldn't it!
    Interesting tho lads👍

  • @GeoffMack
    @GeoffMack Рік тому

    Those weren't half swings. If you want actual half swings, hold your club for two seconds at the top of your backswing before coming back down.🤣

  • @simmo5071
    @simmo5071 Рік тому

    Save your kids Liam the first swing was full. Pete you made a 3/4 swing. A half swing in your head makes you swing with a lot better tempo.

  • @charliedyer3431
    @charliedyer3431 Рік тому +1

    Pete has always had a bad over swing with the big hook, I've had the same issue and now think of a half swing. I've gone from 24 handicap to 14.6 in 8 months it works 👍👍

  • @kdc7759
    @kdc7759 Рік тому +1

    I often do the "9 o’clock swing" with a 3 or 5 wood when I need to find the fairway. Always surprises me how far they go! Try a slight pause as you start the downswing to get your weight shift

  • @funchysfishing5612
    @funchysfishing5612 Рік тому

    The scientist of golf eh? Well Liam looks like Mr Peabody 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @bobazevedo4874
    @bobazevedo4874 Рік тому

    I used to be a member at Wanstead golf club when the pro there was an elderly old chap named Reg Knight, and he used to say to me when I was 25 years old, "young Bob, half as hard and twice as far" and do you know what, he was right. I'm now 75 years young, but do I do it? no, still go for billy big Ba**s. We never learn, it must be a bloke thing.

  • @rowdyroddy519
    @rowdyroddy519 Рік тому

    Pete..Pete.. Pete. You really should give it more of a chance. Your backswing with the "half swing" idea was a lot better than trying to go full swing. Trust me. I am a golf pro/instructor.

  • @Raystephen1903
    @Raystephen1903 Рік тому

    Think I saw maybe 5% of your shots being a half swing 🤷🏼‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂

  • @chadode9048
    @chadode9048 Рік тому

    Every once in awhile, I do the 'half swing' - and everyone tells me it is still a full swing. I still like doing it, because it makes me feel like I have to pause at the top of my swing, improving the tempo of my downswing.
    All that said...I am very aware everything I just typed could very well be just a load of poo! 😅

  • @petecroxford3277
    @petecroxford3277 Рік тому

    I was really surprised when Pete had his lesson with the pro that he didn’t pick up on his back swing because he over swings. You don’t hit the ball on the backs swing I had a lesson with my pro and he told me to stop the overswinging which I’ve done. I’ve tried to hit a half swing Why didn’t the pro pick this up during his lesson he had, because definitely over swings I think Pete will improve on awful lot, but hey Ho, you can only do, what do you been taught? 🍺🍺🍺👍👍🍺🍺

  • @kennymacm3031
    @kennymacm3031 Рік тому

    Out of the hundreds of coaching videos this is NOT the one I will be learning anything from. EBay “it’s not for me”Pete

  • @johnp1040
    @johnp1040 Рік тому +1

    What feels like a 1/2 swing is closer to a full swing. Not the over swing, (beyond parallel), we usually get. It’s a more controlled swing that generates its speed through the zone, 12 inches before and 12 inches after the ball, rather than generating the speed at the top which results in an over-the-top motion. The 1/2 swing feel allows for more shots to be hit on the sweet spot.

  • @dionpilkington6111
    @dionpilkington6111 Рік тому

    Never saw 1 half swing in the whole video......lots of half speed full swings though....I always mess up when I try and grunt on 1 .....its better to take an extra club and swing easy but Ego always seems to get in the way

  • @brianowen6372
    @brianowen6372 Рік тому

    Play this all the time. Easier to deliver club head back to ball and pure it which is why you are hitting longer And Straighter. See Over Swingers Spraying It Around All The Time.

  • @ptop49
    @ptop49 Рік тому

    It’s actually a 3/4 swing they’re after. John Rahm hits a 3/4 swing

  • @richardhill4023
    @richardhill4023 Рік тому

    Played with a half swing all my life Liam .Ive always said you don,,t hit the ball golng backwards you just need to drive down into the ball and keep the forward shaft lean .Good luck if you carry on using the half swing mate.

  • @mikefranco6901
    @mikefranco6901 Рік тому

    I’ve used a half swing for awhile but always try to go back farther making my swing inconsistent. Your video may convince me to stop trying to do more.

  • @viggendriver1975
    @viggendriver1975 Рік тому

    I am 69 and just started a Jon Rahm backswing. I am longer and straighter. Thanks

  • @KevinORourke25
    @KevinORourke25 Рік тому

    Liam's first swing was certainley a full swing. Pete's first swing was ceretainley a full swing. We're being gaslighted here more than an American politician. Don't believe what you see believe what we say! LOLOLOL.

  • @eastcoastuk1120
    @eastcoastuk1120 4 місяці тому

    first 2 goes both full swings. What is engrained is hard to break. Pete has always over swung but if he could shorten it a bit he would drop his handicap, I am sure. .

  • @velo8784
    @velo8784 Рік тому

    Half swings won't help you much. It's not trying to hit the cover off the ball is where you are improving.

  • @davedowsett5345
    @davedowsett5345 Рік тому

    Been doing the same lately, I get a more powerful follow through hand less mistakes. Pete never really did it correctly. Your swing looked more controlled Liam keep at it.

  • @kellycoates5027
    @kellycoates5027 Рік тому

    The harder you try to swing the more your muscles tighten up and you won't hit it good. Try standing with feet maybe 2 driver heads width apart and swing driver at 50 percent and see just how far you hit it, you will be amazed.

  • @500VulcanRider
    @500VulcanRider Рік тому

    You are having a more controlled swing by trying that and you are hitting the ball on the sweet spot, Pete NEVER did a half swing

  • @simonwallis84
    @simonwallis84 Рік тому

    Never wanted to say it but Pete has always over swung but it works for him,the only thing he should try to correct his slight collapse at the top. I’m ten years younger than Pete and I wish had his flexibility!

  • @ronanlaverty7819
    @ronanlaverty7819 Рік тому

    Liam, I think you need to tee it high like the Pros and also use 1/2 swing, your handicap will drop in no time. Much better and more consistant strikes.

  • @paulgolfer
    @paulgolfer Рік тому

    Paul , OK guys your missing a trick , hit 2 balls of a different colour same make , one old swing one 3/4 as you think you hit , then you can assess on course same ball same conditions . So test is equal.

  • @georgediamond5309
    @georgediamond5309 4 місяці тому

    I think half swing is suited to Pete as he seems to go to far back . Looks much more controlled with shorter back swing 😊

  • @JonathanBudd-oc6iv
    @JonathanBudd-oc6iv Рік тому

    That's full swing for both, I've gone to half swing and been hitting it longer and straighter than my full swing

  • @blue24563
    @blue24563 Рік тому

    You’re not really doing a half swing. It’s impossible to do a half swing if you are still trying to hit the same distance. All you are doing is slowing your tempo which helps you hit the middle of the club face more often.

  • @seamusdoody7921
    @seamusdoody7921 Рік тому

    I think what you are doing by, "trying," to do a half swing, is it actually promotes you to slow your back swing down and to be more
    accurate in your hitting of the ball and follow through.

  • @Compete8
    @Compete8 Рік тому

    Interesting. Must be a mind thing as eBay was doing full swings. Most of Liams were 3/4 😂

  • @blue24563
    @blue24563 Рік тому

    There’s no such thing as a ‘half swing’. It’s a complete misconception.

  • @charlesbarry7479
    @charlesbarry7479 Рік тому

    Most of the swings weren't half swings. But it does work, just ask Mr. Rahm.

  • @thombales1299
    @thombales1299 Рік тому

    My humble and uneducated opinion is you both have long arm swings, but limited body turns, so a shorter swing syncs your arms and body much better.

  • @artcore1950
    @artcore1950 Рік тому

    Liam and Pete appear to be swinging more at three-quarters. Perhaps the only player on the channel with a half swing is OMP.

  • @martindaly1229
    @martindaly1229 Рік тому

    Half swing should not be over the shoulders surelly , maybe trying half power here , not sure mates , dont play golf myself but been watching videos on you tube for a wee while and thinking about picking a second hand set up and having a few rounds , cheers

  • @BUNGLE7
    @BUNGLE7 Рік тому

    More controlled tempo than half swing but great experiment and video.

  • @alansmith8234
    @alansmith8234 Рік тому

    Liam you are too generous giving EBay shots as well as allowing him to play off the front tees
    Should be one or the other !
    Good to watch though
    I bet you don’t keep it up !

  • @ColinSmith-ph2xd
    @ColinSmith-ph2xd Рік тому

    When Pete says Liam that you are swinging fully, you are. You might think otherwise but we are seeing it. What is this trying to prove aanyway?

  • @williamparke4952
    @williamparke4952 Рік тому

    When are yous doing the half swings lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🏌️‍♂️⛳️

  • @davechavezjr5399
    @davechavezjr5399 Рік тому

    Liam, you guys do not know what a half swing is! 😂 You guys are thinking half swing but you are doing full swings! 😂

  • @mickclarke5741
    @mickclarke5741 Рік тому

    And your still two down 😂😂whenever my games struggling i always revert to a half swing.

  • @KevinDrury
    @KevinDrury Рік тому

    For the approach shots you should take one more club than you need to promote the same idea of swinging within yourself.

  • @Steviemac05
    @Steviemac05 Рік тому

    Pete is incapable of ever doing a half swing lol . He just done same swing slightly slower . I've always said his swing is far to long for his size

  • @Kirtlington-Bandit
    @Kirtlington-Bandit Рік тому

    That’s my normal game so much more accurate then trying to do an excessive swing and rarely going down the middle. You may lose a little distance but your scores will be lower.

  • @DavidSmith-od6cj
    @DavidSmith-od6cj Рік тому

    Never seen half swing…both of you were swing ing fully. Give your head a shake😂

  • @colstoncox4880
    @colstoncox4880 Рік тому

    Perhaps you have something, I'm currently away at the moment in Manchester so may pop in to the driving range tomorrow and have a go.

  • @davidthomas7032
    @davidthomas7032 Рік тому

    Your cruel to mess with eBay Pete after he’s just being fixed with his lessons 😂

  • @rolandcolegate8228
    @rolandcolegate8228 Рік тому

    I have tried the thought of a half swing when laying up and have hit an almost perfect strike, as you thought, I think it promotes a better through swing, cheers.

  • @paulaskey1508
    @paulaskey1508 Рік тому

    Delete 1/2 swing,,,,, Insert “smooth swing”. Might be closer to the truth 😊

  • @keithbutcher5386
    @keithbutcher5386 Рік тому

    All full swings, just a better tempo on what you think are your half swings.