Guide to Level 2 Charging Your Electric Vehicle
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2018
- Check out my latest video where I talked about buying, installing, and using a 240 volt level 2 electric vehicle charger. If you have an electric vehicle than having one of these installed at your house is a must!
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All your details are truly correct. I have done installing all these type of L2 Charger. And this is so cool.
This is exactly the info i was looking for thanks.
I’m glad I helped!
Well done Chris - a realistic assessment of NEEDS with relationship to daily mileage and whether a car is a pure EV or a Hybrid - the only thing I might add and most people know this (or at least SHOULD know it : ) is that one should NEVER have to charge from ZERO in a pure Battery Electric Vehicle (BEV) - it is SUPER detrimental to the longevity of the high voltage battery to be depleted to that degree - I would suggest that people try their best not to let the charge go substantially below 20% - I know YOU know this Chris but if someone comes across your video, they should be aware of this "rule" about EV's. I think your advice about going to as big a charger as one can afford is a good idea for future proofing. Cheers and happy EV'ing!
Nice video, very informative. I have a Model 3 and it comes with what Tesla calls a Mobile Wall Connector. The MWC can plug into 120v (level 1) and it can also plug into 250v (level 2) via a fairly standard NEMA 14-50 outlet. Such an outlet on a properly wired circuit will charge the Model 3 at 28 to 30 mph. Again this is what comes with every Tesla.
Coming with a level 2 charger is pretty nice! But having to pay $500 for a level two charger and then at least another $500 for an electrician to install the outlet is a turn off for a lot of people. But having a level two charger that comes with the car the total cost for a new EV owner is much less.
OK ....your Model 3 can be plugged into BOTH 115V outlet AND THE 230V outlet ....WHICH MAKE TOTAL SENSE. The vehicle has a voltage-sensing circuit. So you DO NOT NEED ANY CHARGER.
I am struggling with WHY A LEVEL 2 CHARGER IS NEEDED AT ALL!! A vehicle (most all BEV and PHEV) have the LEVEL 1 charging circuitry and the plug configuration. The current plug configuration is the J1772, which is used for both 115VOLT and 230VOLT CHARGING …and now they are talking CCS, which will take higher current rates.
The Nissan Leaf has both Type 2 (Level 2) and CHAdeMO plugs. This means the vehicle can take 230 volts.
If there is both 115 outlets and 230 volt outlets on the wall, and the vehicle has a J1772 plug configuration, WHY is a charger needed for LEVEL 2, 230 VOLT, when the plug, plugs into the SAME PORT ON THE VEHICLE????
Yes, of course, if people want to be able to play with the charger with their cell phone for whatever reason, then sure, let them pay out $600 ….but for the people who do NOT rely on their cell phones to know where they are, what time it is, and figure out if they are hungry or not ….then what’s the purpose for ANY LEVEL 2 CHARGER???
What am I missing?
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@@taxicamel I’m not exactly sure what you are asking. It is true that the “charger” is built into the car and the thing that most people call a charger is in fact not a charger at all but just a connector. The connector’s purpose is merely to provide a way to connect the mains of a house to the car. So regardless of whether the car has J1772 or Tesla proprietary, you still have to have a way to connect to the electrical circuit in your house. Maybe you would want that to be just a simple cord and nothing else and this would be possible. My guess is that no manufacturer does this because they want to have some control over the safety of this connection. I know from experience that the Tesla mobile connector tests for proper grounding and it probably also checks for other quality aspects of the electricity. I can think of at least a few other reasons why electric car manufacturers don’t want you to just plug the car in with any old cord that someone can scrounge up.
Thanks, I enjoy your vids.
Regarding level one charging though for the Volt I think it's important to mention there are 2 charge settings, 8 amps is the default but 12 amps can be selected by which reduces charge time to 8 - 9 hrs for Gen 1 and around 10 hrs for Gen 2 when charging from 0%.
I definitely think for most people, if you can get 12 amps out of a 110 outlet in your garage then you can probably be fine without a level 2 charger.
I just bought my wife a 2017 Chevy Volt. Only getting about 2.7 miles per hour. Def not able to fill up battery in 12-13 hours. Is there something in the car settings to bump up to 12 amp charging to completely recharge?
@@Aceofthedynasty Make sure you're on a dedicated circuit, 120v/20 amp is best but a 15 amp will do. Go to your Volt's charging menu you should see a setting to change from 8 amps to 12 and your Gen 2 should remember your home location so you don't have to keep setting it for a few month. Gen 1 can't do that.
@@evtrekker1317 thanks bro. Figured it out. Big time help
So once again, a commenter has posted that a vehicle has TWO CHARGE SETTINGS ....in other words, can be plugged into the 115V outlet OR a 230V outlet ......SO NO NEED FOR A LEVEL 2 CHARGER!!!!
I am struggling with WHY A LEVEL 2 CHARGER IS NEEDED AT ALL!! A vehicle (most all BEV and PHEV) have the LEVEL 1 charging circuitry and the plug configuration. The current plug configuration is the J1772, which is used for both 115VOLT and 230VOLT CHARGING …and now they are talking CCS, which will take higher current rates.
The Nissan Leaf has both Type 2 (Level 2) and CHAdeMO plugs. This means the vehicle can take 230 volts.
If there is both 115 outlets and 230 volt outlets on the wall, and the vehicle has a J1772 plug configuration, WHY is a charger needed for LEVEL 2, 230 VOLT, when the plug, plugs into the SAME PORT ON THE VEHICLE????
Yes, of course, if people want to be able to play with the charger with their cell phone for whatever reason, then sure, let them pay out $600 ….but for the people who do NOT rely on their cell phones to know where they are, what time it is, and figure out if they are hungry or not ….then what’s the purpose for ANY LEVEL 2 CHARGER???
What am I missing?
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if you use a charger with a higher amp than the car can accept, will that damage the car?
I got a level 2 for my Volt. I just unplug the drier to do it and run it through the window. total cost, including an $8 j1772 holster was $165.
Nice! Being able to charge with a level 2 charger makes it so that I never need to us gas unless I’m taking a road trip.
Look into using the stock 2nd gen volt charger as a level 2. Just need to make an adapter and put 240v on it
How long does it take for a full charge for the volt? My 2018 volt takes like 13 hours for a full charge
So, in other words .....YOU DID NOT NEED TO BUY A LEVEL 2 CHARGER!!!
I am struggling with WHY A LEVEL 2 CHARGER IS NEEDED AT ALL!! A vehicle (most all BEV and PHEV) have the LEVEL 1 charging circuitry and the plug configuration. The current plug configuration is the J1772, which is used for both 115VOLT and 230VOLT CHARGING …and now they are talking CCS, which will take higher current rates.
The Nissan Leaf has both Type 2 (Level 2) and CHAdeMO plugs. This means the vehicle can take 230 volts.
If there is both 115 outlets and 230 volt outlets on the wall, and the vehicle has a J1772 plug configuration, WHY is a charger needed for LEVEL 2, 230 VOLT, when the plug, plugs into the SAME PORT ON THE VEHICLE????
Yes, of course, if people want to be able to play with the charger with their cell phone for whatever reason, then sure, let them pay out $600 ….but for the people who do NOT rely on their cell phones to know where they are, what time it is, and figure out if they are hungry or not ….then what’s the purpose for ANY LEVEL 2 CHARGER???
What am I missing?
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My commute is roughly 45 miles daily. I'm looking at a 2016 Kia Soul EV, which has a 93 mile max range. On a normal day I can charge the vehicle for at least 9-10 hours. Do you think that a Level 1 charger will be enough?? I am mostly concerned about winter when the vehicle expends a lot of energy heating the batteries (which will then need to be replenished).
I am trying to buy a new house so therefore I do not want to invest in Level 2 charging equipment just for a few months.
I am struggling with WHY A LEVEL 2 CHARGER IS NEEDED AT ALL!! A vehicle (most all BEV and PHEV) have the LEVEL 1 charging circuitry and the plug configuration. The current plug configuration is the J1772, which is used for both 115VOLT and 230VOLT CHARGING …and now they are talking CCS, which will take higher current rates.
The Nissan Leaf has both Type 2 (Level 2) and CHAdeMO plugs. This means the vehicle can take 230 volts.
If there is both 115 outlets and 230 volt outlets on the wall, and the vehicle has a J1772 plug configuration, WHY is a charger needed for LEVEL 2, 230 VOLT, when the plug, plugs into the SAME PORT ON THE VEHICLE????
Yes, of course, if people want to be able to play with the charger with their cell phone for whatever reason, then sure, let them pay out $600 ….but for the people who do NOT rely on their cell phones to know where they are, what time it is, and figure out if they are hungry or not ….then what’s the purpose for ANY LEVEL 2 CHARGER???
What am I missing?
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I only have a basic 110V outlet at home. Do I need a 220v outlet?
That depends on how much you drive everyday. Using 110v will only recharge about 40 miles overnight. If you drive more than that regularly then you need to have a public charger available nearby to top it off regularly.
Also - it is not really a great idea to use the 110v charger that came with your car on a regular basis - it is really meant as a sort of "spare tire" energy source in case you get stuck staying over at a hotel or a friend's house etc. and you need those few extra miles to get home or to a public charger.
Why is it not recommend to use a 110 charger regularly?
@@electricchris Hi Chris - I hope you saw my congratulatory note (see below) re your video. RE your question - I suspect that if one relies solely on a 110 charger, it's VERY slow rate of charge might render your EV experience a frustrating one because it takes SO long to charge an EV with one - something like 4 miles per HOUR of charge, IF that. So if one day you MUST get out to do an important errand and your EV has been plugged in all night, and it STILL doesn't have the range required for your errand, you won't be too happy. That may be the most important reason . . . Secondly . . .
The 110 V charger that came with your car is not really MADE for daily use in that IF it goes caflooey, you won't have an alternative except a public charging station which might not exactly be next door and then on TOP of that, you will be stuck there waiting for your EV to charge when you could be out doing your errand : ) The THIRD reason is that if someone swipes it or it goes missing, the chargers from your dealer are VERY expensive - almost the price of a wall charger - to replace. And the 110V chargers are really meant to be treated as a "spare tire" to use in a fix to be stored in the trunk and to go along with the car when it is sold. IF you use your 110 ALL the time and it fails . . .
@@davidbee8178 that’s not true... the standard charger is definitely meant for everyday use. A slower charge is much healthier for the overall life of the battery. Those quicker chargers are fine, but overall reduce the battery lifespan with heavy repeated use. Trinkle charging overnight is perfectly fine for most people who have a light commute everyday. Without the need for other accessories like a L2 charger. I plugged my volt in from dead last night at 9:30/10 and it said it would be ready at 3 am on 12 amps. And 9:30 am on 8 amps
I been charging my 32 amp charger on a dryer with 30 amp breaker nothing happened for almost 2 yrs now. Not super paranoid helps.
Your breaker is probably overheating.... could me starting to melt.
@@fking6543 I think you imagining things? If you even understand what I wroteor you missed something? And you know what breaker does? It breaks the current not melt something. SMH
Some breakers are rated for 80% of amperage under continuous use. If you have a 32 amp breaker that would 25.6... which means components could start to overheat. Regardless, I was just trying to be helpful.
@@fking6543 I understand what you are saying, my dryer breaker is just 30amps and I am just saying too nothing is happening for 2 yrs, so you think 2yrs is not enough to see if there is something wrong? I think if it is heating up or melting a little each day should it be burned by now? That's why I said sometimes experience like this proves it's okay. So don't be too paranoid about it. Anyways thanks for help not fighting with you just saying relax not all written in the book is all true.
Yo Dude I here you. When it comes to electrical I’m probably a bit paranoid. ✌️
hi I have EV level 2 charger, would you like to make a Video evaluation for my charger? if you do, I would like to pay for the Video evaluation
my email address rickiexue95@yahoo.com
I think most house hold outlets can't handle 12 amps for 16 hours. We learned that one the hard way, the outlet gets way too hot.
Before we got our level 2 charger installed I’d usually only use 12 amps when 8 amps wasn’t going to be fast enough to charge up over night. Sometimes when I would get home late there wouldn’t be enough time to fully charge.
If your outlet got way too hot then it might be that your wiring is inadequate OR that your outlet is not properly secured - either way it is really important that you get that checked out by a CERTIFIED ELECTRICIAN before your house burns down !! - I would suggest that a continuous demand of 12 amps would require wiring of 10 AWG to be on the safe side. It's not expensive. A 16amp charger needs a 20 amp breaker with 10AWG wiring. A 24amp charger needs a 30 breaker with at minimum 10AWG wiring. A 32amp charger needs a 40 amp breaker with 8AWG and a 40amp charger needs a 50 amp breaker with 6 AWG wiring. It NEVER hurts to go OVER the AWG minimums but NEVER go UNDER!!!
To provide a very quick response, without going into any electrical engineering, .....if you "THINK" ....."OUTLETS" (PLURAL) get hot at 12 amps for 16 hours, then very simply stated, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ......plain and simple.
You have NOT learnt anything. You likely know NOTHING about simple electricity.
If "something" got "way too hot", (whatever that means) .....then there might be a problem in an outlet that needs fixing. The standard 115 volt outlet is designed to handle 15 amps all day long without any "heat" issues. There is ALWAYS a safety factor built into ALL electrical components. There is also "supposed" to be a circuit breaker that does NOT allow any current over 15 amps in ALL standard 115 volt outlets.
So, once again, you very highly likely have no idea what you are stating .....and therein lies one of the problems with forums like UA-cam ......people like you, making comments that are completely unfounded and incorrect.
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@@electricchris Love it man 😆
I am struggling with WHY A LEVEL 2 CHARGER IS NEEDED AT ALL!! A vehicle (most all BEV and PHEV) have the LEVEL 1 charging circuitry and the plug configuration. The current plug configuration is the J1772, which is used for both 115VOLT and 230VOLT CHARGING …and now they are talking CCS, which will take higher current rates.
The Nissan Leaf has both Type 2 (Level 2) and CHAdeMO plugs. This means the vehicle can take 230 volts.
If there is both 115 outlets and 230 volt outlets on the wall, and the vehicle has a J1772 plug configuration, WHY is a charger needed for LEVEL 2, 230 VOLT, when the plug, plugs into the SAME PORT ON THE VEHICLE????
Yes, of course, if people want to be able to play with the charger with their cell phone for whatever reason, then sure, let them pay out $600 ….but for the people who do NOT rely on their cell phones to know where they are, what time it is, and figure out if they are hungry or not ….then what’s the purpose for ANY LEVEL 2 CHARGER???
What am I missing?
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Why are you talking about chargers? Most modern, if not all, EVs have the charger as a part of the car. And you only need a charging station that you plug in to your car. (End of snarky comment). :-)
The vast majority of new ev owners call them chargers not stations. Searching amazon the level 2 stations are listed as a charger for most of them.