Raven Guard SNEAK ATTACK! - Thematic List Build 10th Edition Warhammer 40k

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  • In this Thematic List Build for 10th edition Warhammer 40,000 the focus is on the Space Marines of the Raven Guard. The focus - subterfuge deception, and stealth special ops tactics!
    This video follows the format of the previous Warhammer 40K list builds, starting with a rules critique, definition of thematic goals and to create a list which allows the sons of Corax to CONFOUND and UTTERLY DESTROY the opposition. And like with the previous, there are a few opinion pieces peppered (or maybe salted?) throughout 😂
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    0:00:00 - Intro
    0:00:31 - Mechanics Review
    0:01:45 - Thematic Objectives
    0:02:13 - List Build
    0:09:36 - Review
    0:10:28 - Outro and Supporting the Channel
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  • @linkdancer3890
    @linkdancer3890 8 місяців тому +26

    Finally a list breakdown of my favorite loyalist legion! Thank you so much 😊.

  • @nuttyteetee8495
    @nuttyteetee8495 8 місяців тому +40

    Not even the biggest raven guard fan, I just enjoy watching these

  • @JonathanCrane82
    @JonathanCrane82 Місяць тому +4

    This. All of this. So stealthy even GW forgets we exist

  • @wusa2go
    @wusa2go 8 місяців тому +9

    Not to forget, the Invictor Warsuits also have the Phobos keyword. It could be a lot of fun with all these Phobos Stratagems.

    • @tastefulavenger
      @tastefulavenger 8 місяців тому

      There's only 2 and both are movement oriented. Guerrilla Tactics is the one they'll get most use out of.

  • @arturoeduardoescartinrojas5762
    @arturoeduardoescartinrojas5762 8 місяців тому +6

    WOW this one Is really good, not only flaverfull, but really competitive and fun to play

  • @Zilong17
    @Zilong17 6 місяців тому +3

    I super appreciate your themed lists. It's a sorely needed reference for a player like me who only plays locals with friends/known quantities and are more interested in narrative set-ups and themed matches rather than a tournament/competitive meta. I especially love your PoV on the RG theme, this video was invaluable in my setting up my first army.

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  6 місяців тому +1

      Always happy to hear that ☺️ 🍻

  • @HighlandPhoenix
    @HighlandPhoenix 8 місяців тому +4

    Another great video! Nice and thematic, however I think the Lieutenant and Intercessors are the weak link in this list, I have a few options instead to consider to go in the Executioner:
    1) instead of the Lieutenant with Ghostweave Cloak (80) take Lord Inquisitor Kyria Draxus (75) instead who can join a Battleline unit in their Transport (Authority of the Inquisition). Both her Xenos Hunter (add 1 to the Hit roll to the Unit, excluding against Imperium and Chaos units) and Psychic Veil (on a 2+, the unit can only be selected as the target of a ranged attack if the attacking model is within 18" - sort of like a unit-wide Lone Op) abilities add thematic value, and with her Dirgesinger and Psychic Tempest that is some nice addition firepower from an otherwise mundane shooting unit; Or,
    2) remove the Lieutenant with Ghostweave Cloak and Intercessors (165) and add a Techmarine (55) with Ghostweave Cloak (15), and a unit of 5 Assault Intercessors with Power fist and Plasma pistol on the Sergeant (80) ; Or,
    3) remove Execute and Redeploy (-20) from the Phobos Capt and remove the Lieutenant with Ghostweave Cloak and Intercessors (165), and then add 6 Bladeguard Veterans (180) to go in the Executioner.
    I think any of these options will overall be better at bossing midfield objectives, and in the case of the Techmarine aid the lone Executioner. You could of course drop the Lieutenant and Intercessors for a Callidus Assassin and an Eversor Assassin...!

    • @joelhenry2527
      @joelhenry2527 8 місяців тому +2

      All decent options imo - I like the inquisitor one especially. If my list ran battle line, it’s use Draxus too

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  8 місяців тому +2

      Great analysis, and thanks for taking the time to write and share it! ☺️ Since I'm biased against allies, I'd personally opt for option 3. 6 blade guard vets would be spicy.

    • @HighlandPhoenix
      @HighlandPhoenix 8 місяців тому +2

      @@WhatThe40k Ah but Inquisitors ALWAYS have a place in an Imperial army...they have the AUTHORITY! 😏

  • @ravenRedwake
    @ravenRedwake 8 місяців тому +1

    6:03 you can give them all one of the special pistols (all plasma, all melta, all grav etc) for some localized, fast special shooting.

  • @chaseherrington
    @chaseherrington 8 місяців тому +2

    That’s so many units packed into a fluffy list. Looks fun and competitive too

  • @masongrae5010
    @masongrae5010 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks this was helpful I’m currently build a raptors list that can be run as either dark angels or raven guard by switching out very few units as possible

  • @HorizonIsHere1337
    @HorizonIsHere1337 6 місяців тому +2

    Just stumbled across this.
    Love the theme of it.

  • @AgoristDryad
    @AgoristDryad 6 місяців тому +3

    Here's my 2000 pt RG List. Thoughts and criticism welcome:
    Kayvann Shrike with Blackout and The Raven's Talons
    10 Vanguard Veterans with Jump Packs, 6 Bolt Pistols, 5 Relic Weapons, 4 Relic Shields.
    Captain in Phobos Armour with Bolt Pistol, Instigator Carbine, Combat Knife, and the Ghostweave Cloak (Warlord)
    3 Eliminators with 1 Instigator Carbine, 2 Las Fusil, and 3 Close Combat Weapons
    Lieutenant in Phobos Armour with Master-crafted Scoped Bolt Carbine, Bolt Pistol, and Paired Combat Blades
    3 Eliminators with 3 Las Fusil and 3 Close Combat Weapons
    Librarian in Phobos Armour with Force Weapon, Smite, and Shadow War Veteran
    5 Infiltrators with 5 Marksman Bolt Carbines, 5 Close Combat Weapons, the Helix Gauntlet and the Comms Array
    Chaplain with Jump Pack and Inferno Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, and The Blade Drive Deep
    5 Assault Intercessors with Jumpacks, 1 Power fist, 2 Plasma Pistols, and 3 Heavy Bolt Pistols, and 4 Chainswords
    Lord Inquisitor Kyria Draxus
    10 Tactical Marines with 1 Thunder hammer, 1 Combi Weapon, 1 Flamer, and 1 Lascannon, 9 Bolt Pistols, and 10 Close Combat Weapons
    5 Incursors with the Haywire Mine, 5 Oculus Bolt Carbines, 5 Bolt Pistols, and 5 Paired Combat Blades
    5 Intercessors with 1 Power Fist, 1 Hand Flamer, 1 Astartes Grenade Launcher, 4 Bolt Rifles, 5 Bolt Pistols, and 5 Close Combat Weapons
    1 Deredeo Dreadnought with Armored Feet, the Anvilus Autocannon Battery, Aiolos Missile Launcher, and Twin Heavy Bolter
    2 Firestrike Servo Turrets with 2 Close Combat Weapons and 2 Firestrike Las-talon
    1 Invictor Tactical Warsuit with Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter, Invictor Fist, Incendium Cannon, and Twin Ironhail Heavy Stubber
    1 Invictor Tactical Warsuit with Fragstorm Grenade Launcher, Heavy Bolter, Invictor Fist, Twin Ironhail Autocannon, and Twin Ironhail Heavy Stubber
    The idea is to use the various kinds of infantry to contest objectives and obstruct enemy movement. The Eliminators, Deredeo, and Turrets are there to actually kill stuff. Shrike's and the Chaplains squads are there to focus on enemy infantry. Captain gives three Lasfusil free overwatch. The Warsuits are kinda just Chaff that the enemy can't ignore.

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for taking the time to share your list. I like it quite a bit. Though... I'm not one for allies😅 But overall.... I dig it. Definitely has that tacticool flavor I'd want to flex with the RG and the servo turrets are a nice touch.

  • @cypher4783
    @cypher4783 8 місяців тому

    A great list! The list I've been working on is 1 Phobos captain, 3 squads of eleminators, 3 squads of 5 infiltrators and 3 squads of plasma incepters. The idea of this list being that the infiltrators are to screen the force. The elemenators are for fire support, more intending them to soften up a target. The plasma inceptors are the assault units, using their 3 inch deep strike to isolate the enemy into more manageable chunks.

  • @Roeland666
    @Roeland666 8 місяців тому

    Awesome work again!!

  • @eriadorranger2196
    @eriadorranger2196 5 місяців тому +1

    Watching this to get ideas for my Dark Krakens army :)

  • @travelingspartan2035
    @travelingspartan2035 3 місяці тому

    I have a similar army idea that Ill be painting as Raptors chapter. Good video!

  • @invisible5144
    @invisible5144 8 місяців тому +2

    These help me so much, not knowing how to make a half decent list.

  • @BIGDADY11-wh2yg
    @BIGDADY11-wh2yg 8 місяців тому

    Love this series. Please do a blood Angels thematic list!

  • @CMTechnica
    @CMTechnica 8 місяців тому +2

    I’m not guilty of running the Deathwatch with the Vanguard Detachment. Having a stealthy techmarine dismantle enemy tanks isn’t the only reason.

  • @ronin5995
    @ronin5995 7 місяців тому +1

    Im a simple men i see a 40k quality channel i subscribe 😁

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the list.

  • @invisible5144
    @invisible5144 8 місяців тому +2

    Yes, more thematic list bulids

  • @GytisGG
    @GytisGG 6 місяців тому

    Great video! ❤

  • @jjsyrena706
    @jjsyrena706 5 місяців тому +1

    Sturdy list 👍👍

  • @rickdriver0
    @rickdriver0 8 місяців тому +1

    I shall paint them green and call 'em Raptors 😂 just need to replace Shrike 😢 im loving the lists, can't wait to see your Fire Keepers 🤘🏻

  • @tomjordan7606
    @tomjordan7606 7 місяців тому

    I actually use this detachment alongside BT rules. Basically allows me to have librarians in SB squads and get a 4+ invul with -1 to hit. I also put the infiltration enhancement on a gravis cap with heavy intercessors to secure central objectives. I also bring about 2 squads of eliminators and 1 squad of infiltrators with phobos libs. I have been informed it is a really challenging list to deal with. I have found more success with it then using the BT detachment and the rules/strats from it. For anti armour i either use 2 gladiator Lancers or other vehicle stuff. I just tend to lock down sections of the map which force my oppenant to run a guantlet to get into melee or into position, then they tend to regret melee with SB squads who are dealing 2w and have 3w stats with a 4+ invul.

  • @darkelf2040
    @darkelf2040 4 місяці тому +2

    I wanna see Blood Ravens

  • @Lem0nsquid
    @Lem0nsquid 7 місяців тому +1

    This army looks slick as hell

  • @Linus-yr3hh
    @Linus-yr3hh 2 місяці тому

    So this list still works, if you replace the Assault Squad w/JP with the Assault Intercessors w/JP. The Assault Squad doesnt exist anymore. You also have to take Ghostweave Cloak from the normal Lieutenant.

  • @Eric-jt8yx
    @Eric-jt8yx 8 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @TheCyborg000
    @TheCyborg000 8 місяців тому +2

    Can you do a White Scars detachment with the stormlance task force detachment rule?

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  8 місяців тому +1

      I definitely could.... And I probably will.🤞🤞

    • @TheCyborg000
      @TheCyborg000 8 місяців тому +2

      Cheers! I only ask because i made my own thematic army list of that myself.
      But I'm open to seeing others options on the matter.@@WhatThe40k

  • @nicholasforsyth4031
    @nicholasforsyth4031 2 місяці тому

    Can we get a night lords themed list with the new dread talons detachment and kill team upgrade? Would love to see it, maybe even alley in a knight for more battle shock?

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  2 місяці тому +1

      Should be quite likely.

  • @birdknight6616
    @birdknight6616 8 місяців тому

    Ayyy nice Killer7 bgm!

  • @benjaminwilson8693
    @benjaminwilson8693 8 місяців тому +1

    Love this sort of list. Might have to make one reduced down to 1k

  • @orcvsivstitia7608
    @orcvsivstitia7608 6 місяців тому +2

    Nah....Here is the play. 10 Van Guard Vets, all inferno pistols..... Rapid egress deep strike get close to an enemy...Unload into their face with Shrike & 10 inferno pistol & then disappear. Use other deep striking/infiltrating models.+ Librarians to take objectives a Jump Captain to Alph strike as well. Clip two units a turn & score objectives.

    • @orcvsivstitia7608
      @orcvsivstitia7608 6 місяців тому +1

      RG needs a very punchy unit to help though.... maybe a couple small knights? Apparently some houses can deepstrike a knight or something ?That's fair. Ok pick one Shrike & his boys or that knight...Good luck.

  • @mcw280
    @mcw280 6 місяців тому +1

    Short and simple

  • @necrosis7525
    @necrosis7525 8 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much for this. The Raven Guard are my favorite chapter and I’m glad to see them get a thematic list video this early.

  • @michaelcrawford1233
    @michaelcrawford1233 8 місяців тому +1

    It sounds so mean to set shrike up and they can't do anything. Then you move.. shoot.. charge. And he just flies away back into reserves like he was never there.

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  8 місяців тому

      Absolutely, it's soo gross 😬. Good for the Raven Guard.

  • @SWATDRUMMUH
    @SWATDRUMMUH 8 місяців тому

    Would it be thematic for the marines to be from the 3rd company, considering that's Kayvaan Shrike's previous company before ascending to Chapter Master?

  • @jeffreyroy5375
    @jeffreyroy5375 6 місяців тому

    Decided tonight to put together a Raven Guard list. Have never played before but love the lore and well the Raven Guard are a fit to my personality. How are the points counted in 10th.? I got the space marine cards but as far as i know there isnt a codex out...

  • @RamboArminius1
    @RamboArminius1 7 місяців тому

    Please do Genestealer Cult thematic lists!

  • @lana_del_Rei.neet-
    @lana_del_Rei.neet- Місяць тому +1

    is the song in the background the main theme from the silver case by suda51?

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  Місяць тому +1

      Maybe...🤷‍♂️😅 Music attribution should be in the description.

    • @lana_del_Rei.neet-
      @lana_del_Rei.neet- Місяць тому +1

      @@WhatThe40k ah! if i had a coin for every warhammer channel ive seen using killer7 music Id had 2 coins, wich is not kuch but it is weird that it happened twice

    • @WhatThe40k
      @WhatThe40k  Місяць тому

      @@lana_del_Rei.neet- killer 7 OST is such a mood 😩👌

  • @blackknight2323
    @blackknight2323 5 місяців тому

    So my question to this is what would a Loyalist Alpha Legion Thematic List look like? Is it more of the same or do you swap out a few things?

  • @gangstalker47
    @gangstalker47 8 місяців тому +2

    Remember nerds; Like the video and leave a comment.

  • @DustyPazner
    @DustyPazner 8 місяців тому

    Gigachad commisar thematic list. 36 ogryn 3 squads of 6 bullgryn and 3 squads of 6 ogryn. 2 stormlords for transport. The commisar with kirovs aquila. And 2 squads of atillians since you got 140 points left.

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 8 місяців тому

      Do Ogryns count as battleline?

    • @DustyPazner
      @DustyPazner 8 місяців тому

      @@KillerOrca no 😭😭😭

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 8 місяців тому

      @@DustyPazner Better f ind some replacements for that then.

    • @DustyPazner
      @DustyPazner 8 місяців тому

      @@KillerOrca battle line x6 all other units x3. My digga you belong to the streets

  • @joelhenry2527
    @joelhenry2527 8 місяців тому +1

    I liked seeing the wound breakdown across the units and toughness - not really considered that before - made me look at my current vanguard (Raven guard) list - 144 wounds across 14 units, 60 at T4, 60 at T6/7, 24 at T10.

    • @michaeltopholm3588
      @michaeltopholm3588 7 місяців тому

      See the list??

    • @joelhenry2527
      @joelhenry2527 7 місяців тому +2

      @@michaeltopholm3588 sure 👍🏻
      Current iteration is:
      Kayvan shrike
      Phobos librarian
      10 jump pack intercessors
      5 infiltrators
      6 inceptors - bolsters
      2x3 inceptors - plasma
      6 centurion devastators (missile/las)
      2 redemptors
      2 eliminator squads
      2 scout squads (sniper, 4 shotguns)
      Callidus assassin

    • @michaeltopholm3588
      @michaeltopholm3588 7 місяців тому

      Looks cool, you don't use HB or ML on yours Scouts???

    • @joelhenry2527
      @joelhenry2527 7 місяців тому +1

      @@michaeltopholm3588 no, I really just want them mobile

    • @michaeltopholm3588
      @michaeltopholm3588 7 місяців тому

      @@joelhenry2527 I understand that too, I let my HB die before SG

  • @RevanR
    @RevanR 8 місяців тому

    Sneaky Beaky marines

  • @williamcederberg9860
    @williamcederberg9860 8 місяців тому +3

    Would making a Black Templars thematic list be possible? I know you already made one in 9th, but it is my resolute belief that they are much more powerful then in the previous edition.

    • @starlord157
      @starlord157 8 місяців тому +2

      They are one of the best space marine detachments right now.

  • @alpharius42069
    @alpharius42069 8 місяців тому

    Hawklords

  • @spacewolves5539
    @spacewolves5539 8 місяців тому

    Space wolves 10th edition? Bro

  • @tupoibydlos
    @tupoibydlos 8 місяців тому

    flesh tearers next and then charcorodons right after

  • @CS-ri1eo
    @CS-ri1eo 8 місяців тому

    A list to surpass Metal Gear

  • @magnos_decimus
    @magnos_decimus 8 місяців тому

    sneaky terminators are the way to go! I read the rules and that's all I wanted to do. Skip all the phobos crap. Go hard mode.

  • @dexterello
    @dexterello 8 місяців тому +1

    More and more Primaris models meh