Blackbeard’s Plan To Take Over The World Just Came Together

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    2:27 Becoming A King
    4:37 The Bargaining Chip
    7:33 Catarina Devon’s Role
    10:59 Addressing Objections
    14:11 The Final Step
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  • @MrMorj
    @MrMorj  4 місяці тому +28

    Use code MORJ50 to get 50% OFF First Box and free wellness shots for life with any active subscription at bit.ly/3TiUieY

    • @M3plusYOU
      @M3plusYOU 4 місяці тому +3

      Um, based??

    • @elsa9026
      @elsa9026 4 місяці тому +1

      Morj, ever heard of tartaria? thats an amazing theory you gotta check out!
      many people talk about it on youtube

    • @griswo3272
      @griswo3272 4 місяці тому

      I wonder if morj gets extra money for doing all these classy shots

    • @Coolgamer..
      @Coolgamer.. 4 місяці тому +1

      Blackbread has the potential to be the final villain of One Piece. I'm intrigued by his character and plan. I hope his goal ends up being interesting and unique. 🌎

    • @imthe_catgod
      @imthe_catgod 4 місяці тому

      ​@@griswo3272off course yes

  • @calvinnguyen1870
    @calvinnguyen1870 4 місяці тому +909

    In *just this arc* Blackbeard has gotten:
    -Law’s Road Poneglyph rubbings
    -Pudding, who can read them
    -Garp as leverage against the WG
    -A crewmember being able to impersonate a gorosei
    -Caribou, with knowledge of TWO ancient weapons
    This guy is an absolute menace. Not even Luffy has ever done this much in just one arc.

    • @Cc-ew9oh
      @Cc-ew9oh 4 місяці тому +8

      Pudding can’t read them

    • @RaffyDGoat
      @RaffyDGoat 4 місяці тому +75

      @@Cc-ew9oh probably can now

    • @harmen98
      @harmen98 4 місяці тому +45

      @@Cc-ew9ohIt depends. We don’t know what can awaken it, but it might’ve awakened during WCI or afterwards.

    • @jaywbell2002
      @jaywbell2002 4 місяці тому +41

      And he has the seraphim due to high level access from impersonating Saturn

    • @asdf0747
      @asdf0747 4 місяці тому +11

      @@RaffyDGoat its not definite, and Roger needed Oden to actually decipher what the road islands were

  • @trehubb6144
    @trehubb6144 4 місяці тому +574

    Blackbeard sneaking into Mariejois is top tier planning. Imagine if they take it over at one point. I feel we also gotta remember the Celestial Dragons are still on lockdown due to the Revs. Now imagine if a Quake man and a Island Human(Avalo) sneak into the Holy Land. Imagine Avalo fusing with the Red Line 😮

    • @soulscribe_h
      @soulscribe_h 4 місяці тому +50

      It could be a way to showcase the Holy Knights in full action but after Sabos' infiltration I doubt that they will not have their guard up. And I don't think BB will attempt to conquer Mariejois or "the world" before reaching Laugh Tale.
      Catarina's mission will simple be to manipulate from within and achieve something in favour of BB before being caught.

    • @radaro.9682
      @radaro.9682 4 місяці тому +8

      Well, Avalo only matters if the Red Line counts as an island.

    • @alvirhasan7513
      @alvirhasan7513 4 місяці тому +1

      Gods knight exist

    • @saeedabdo2083
      @saeedabdo2083 4 місяці тому +16

      @@radaro.9682 Well, Nami said that the Red Line is basically a collection of islands with different climates

    • @samuellaakso7012
      @samuellaakso7012 4 місяці тому +12

      Think about this
      In the last chapters of pre-timeskip, Avallo told BB to make him a captain, to which Laffitte says does he have a deathwish on him.
      Now, if Avallo can fuse with Red Line, what stops him to try to became captain again? Or even better, the King of the world? What stops him from trying to betray Teach?
      Answer is simple. His Devil Fruits. I dont think it's impossible to break parts of the Red Line with eartquakes, now that Teach is stronger and more experienced with his Devil Fruits. And if that doensnt work, he always have the Yami Yami no mis df-canceling power. It's really telling of their groupdynamics when they have really overpowered DF's, but Blackbeard still has a way to keep them in line.

  • @mosdeaf
    @mosdeaf 4 місяці тому +187

    The best part about Blackbeard is that we the readers view him the same way the rest of the world views Luffy. And he now recruited an admiral to his side after Luffy gained a warlord. And now he has his own fan in Caribou.
    All thats left to highlight is the difference in growth.

    • @ocelotlove
      @ocelotlove 4 місяці тому +11

      Now the strawhats just have to recruit Kizaru to even the odds lol

    • @mosdeaf
      @mosdeaf 4 місяці тому +19

      @@ocelotlove Assuming we get an admiral, I'd rather Fujitora join. Without much justification.
      Let Kizaru remain a pawn like Bellamy until the final war. And we get the badass swordsman with GRAVITY that already likes Luffy.
      Peak fiction. Raftel in space confirmed.

    • @extremelynoobgaming4742
      @extremelynoobgaming4742 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@mosdeafI think enel already conquered laughtale with his moon army

  • @wisdommanari6701
    @wisdommanari6701 4 місяці тому +316

    Morj on God I hope you marry a profession chef. Your hatred of cooking is legendary

    • @BaraeSnoussi
      @BaraeSnoussi 4 місяці тому +12

      fr

    • @ReddSquall
      @ReddSquall 4 місяці тому

      Everytime I see one of those Factor ads I chuckle at the fact that they're probably sponsoring Morj because there's a disproportionate amount of fatties that watch his videos. After that I order Popeyes for the third time this week and cry myself to sleep.

    • @Problemsolver434
      @Problemsolver434 4 місяці тому +9

      Made me laugh 😂

    • @uglykgb
      @uglykgb 4 місяці тому +11

      ong i know bro cannot cook

    • @PER578
      @PER578 4 місяці тому +12

      I have seen that sponsor too many times

  • @KittSpiken
    @KittSpiken 4 місяці тому +119

    Observation haki is not the reason I'm incredulous about the Gorosei not sussing out Devon Saturn, it's that Saturn has been working closely with the other 4 elders for decades if not centuries.
    Previous examples of clone impersonation are the top of a sovereign hierarchy fooling their subjects or momentarily tricking a close relation before a sneak attack.
    Not that this doesn't fit, only that it if it the case, it need handled with care. The Gorosei could look very smooth brained not seeing through her performance that seemingly would be entirely based off one brief conversation.

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 4 місяці тому +24

      Yeah that's why I think the Saturn impersonation is most noteworthy for giving Blackbeard control over the Seraphim.
      Also since we know characters don't die, I really can't imagine Saturn just being taken completely out on Egghead to the point that he could be impersonated and nobody ever finds the original.

    • @bigt100
      @bigt100 4 місяці тому

      Exactly they'd look even more stupid if they don't notice it's her

    • @bigt100
      @bigt100 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@LoudWafflenow that makes sense!!

    • @snowwhite1494
      @snowwhite1494 4 місяці тому +16

      the "mythical" upgrade part of her fruit could be that it doesnt just replicate looks, but also give Devon the memories and ability to recreate mannerisms too

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 4 місяці тому

      @@snowwhite1494 Not saying that isn't possible - but the mythical part just means she has the magical transformation powers, instead of only being able to turn into a regular fox. Just like Marco's fruit being mythical just means he has the fire and regeneration powers instead of only being a bird.

  • @ClanDWoolz
    @ClanDWoolz 4 місяці тому +69

    If Luffy takes care of 1 of BB's goals, im going to assume Van Auger is the one who fed Luffy.

    • @ocelotlove
      @ocelotlove 4 місяці тому +14

      oh snap that's a good theory

    • @userusernomi
      @userusernomi 4 місяці тому +6

      I was just thinking how weird it was that they just decided to leave instead of helping finish off Saturn, if that's supposed to be their plan. This would count as help and so I'm 100% on board with it.

    • @thetruth997_
      @thetruth997_ 4 місяці тому +1

      I still feel like it was Kizaru which would 100% mean that Kizaru is holding back and doesn’t wanna do this mission lol

  • @amartinez97
    @amartinez97 4 місяці тому +137

    I can see Blackbeard making it all the way to Imu and getting immediately humbled in a Magellan 2.0 situation

    • @clydu91
      @clydu91 4 місяці тому +29

      if Imu can fodderize a Yonkou why would the 3 powers even be needed

    • @sivanandkalita2563
      @sivanandkalita2563 4 місяці тому +1

      Imu simply wants to hide his identity to prevent chaos. By hiding his identity he is creating an illusion of freedom. If he didn't do this then he would have to constantly fight people for 800 years no matter how strong he is​@@clydu91

    • @timurjack8773
      @timurjack8773 4 місяці тому +4

      That was because Teach underestimated Magellan as Shiryu said, and poison in One Piece can one-shot people with high durability as we see Jack and Yeti brothers one-shotting Zoro and Inu/Neko with poison.
      While you can sah Teach even also underestimated WB, but still even WB that KOed Akainu with 2 hits, couldn't KO Teach with 2 hits.

    • @MarshallDTeach-ee3ip
      @MarshallDTeach-ee3ip 4 місяці тому

      This shit sounds stupid af

    • @simonromer5889
      @simonromer5889 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@clydu91well imu is the secret King of the World, o e is not really a secret if they walk around and kill pirates, the gorosei also didnt really fight in their true form all that often

  • @CognitiveDissonance05
    @CognitiveDissonance05 4 місяці тому +39

    Van Augur telling Saturn Blackbeard’s ultimate plan is pretty much the biggest death flag for Saturn. Gonna be disappointed if he doesn’t die in this arc.

    • @Sirius2376
      @Sirius2376 4 місяці тому +5

      Augur and Devon are about to leave the island tho. They would be stupid to just bet on the straw hats killing Saturn.

  • @Mantosasto
    @Mantosasto 4 місяці тому +52

    What doesn't work for me in Katarina impersonating Saturn in that way is that the old fart should have a vast worth of knowledge that she simply wouldn't have. The five crapolds start talking and she's out of her depth immediately. I don't see how they wouldn't notice without Oda's help.

    • @divinebanana9782
      @divinebanana9782 4 місяці тому +16

      I think that's where her mythical fruit comes in help.. so far whatever we saw makes it no different than bon clays clone clone fruit.. for oda to justify the mythical zoan part of the fruit oda would maybe introduce another ability that would allow her to gain knowledge of the person user is impersonating...

    • @bishopofeternity48
      @bishopofeternity48 4 місяці тому +2

      Pudding.

    • @jasonmatthews52
      @jasonmatthews52 4 місяці тому +12

      Keep in mind, Katarina's fruit is a mythical zoan, way above the likes of Bon Clay's. It's possible that the nine-tails fruit allows the user to perfectly impersonate others. Not just mimicking their appearance, but also their memories, speech patterns, mannerisms etc.

    • @Mantosasto
      @Mantosasto 4 місяці тому +22

      @@jasonmatthews52 Yes, but that would be a whole different can of worms. We would get a character to know, presumably, the void century and all the secrets of the world without the poneglyphs or finding the One Piece or anything.

    • @zakirauf9244
      @zakirauf9244 4 місяці тому +3

      Also it would be really dumb for the WG to invite blackbeard to mariejois even if they make him a king

  • @JoyBoyTheories
    @JoyBoyTheories 4 місяці тому +11

    Personally I don't find this theory very satisfying
    - You have a devised a convoluted way for Blackbeard to be made a king, but it presumes Devon has the capacity to not only impersonate a Gorosei's appearance, but also their personality/knowledge. My gut feeling is if the gorosei are duped so easily it would feel contrived.
    - The gorosei should be aware of Devon's powers, and this make all of this feel even more contrived, especially when Saturn starts suddenly advocating for him
    - Even if Blackbeard is made a king, it is very unlikely the Gorosei will trust him, and "access" to marie geoise even if granted would be questionably advantageous. Blackbeard showing up would certainly be red alert.
    - And I also question the timeline here, for Blackbeard to become a regular king and having the time to somehow utilize that, while also having a purpose for the poneglyphs
    IMO Blackbeard will do something else with Devon's power

    • @poenpotzu2865
      @poenpotzu2865 4 місяці тому +2

      I think Blackbeard is going for a gamble here. The gorosei fall for it he gets access, they don't he can still use the face of Saturn to his politcal advantage.

    • @mokaljordan
      @mokaljordan 4 місяці тому +1

      Preach JB, perhaps Caterina touching was a bonus to the mission as they originally came to egghead to impersonate someone else and probaly then some. What if Blackbeard not only uses saturns image as another bargaining chip but as a means to lure the burn scar man out since it seems that they was gonna impersonate vegapunk first to deceive someone with, the BBP may have learned a connection between vegapunk, the gorosei and the burn scar man

    • @ThePenguin1812
      @ThePenguin1812 4 місяці тому

      This is more plausible (and also more interesting) than you may realize.
      Akainu. There is NO way he's letting this slide. This would ABSOLUTELY be the tipping point he's needed to just go absolutely ballistic. Certainly he would know that fighting head on would be suicide - and perhaps that is effectively what he would be fine with committing when the government he spent his life's work for ends up in the hands of a pirate. ESPECIALLY one that is as textbook evil as Blackbeard.
      It could also easily set up akainu as ANOTHER admiral
      And obviously, the death of the fleet admiral at a time like this could EASILY be the event needed to really jumpstart the downfall of the world government. Especially with Kizaru turning coat to the strawhats. Greenbull is already corrupt at his core - a person (arguably) equally as dirty as blackbeard - so he poses no real threat to his plan. Even if he did, he stands ZERO chance against the gura gura let alone the yomi yomi. Certainly, he would side with blackbeard at a point.
      Blackbeard killing akainu is actually more fitting because it could easily lead to an iconic panel of akainu dying in the same way akainu killed whitebeard. With two BLACK HOLES in his chest. And beyond this, they are woven from the same cloth. They are equally driven - in opposing directions. It's also quite fitting that BB has the quake fruit as well as earthquakes are often associated with volcanic eruptions. Perhaps the fight between the magi magi and the gura gura is fated to happen regardless of who eats either fruit at any time.

  • @soulscribe_h
    @soulscribe_h 4 місяці тому +44

    After the Revolutionary's infiltration, Sabo having info of Imu's existence and Vivi escaping I doubt that Imu and the Gorosei will have their guard down enough for BB to pull off an assassination attempt.
    Imu has BB on his list so, if anything, if he was to be let into Mariejois somehow and for some reason because the Reverie already happened, the one that's in danger of being killed is BB himself.

    • @dreambokek
      @dreambokek 4 місяці тому +4

      I agree they might actually let him get in to assassinate him but BB would expect this and maybe kick their butt? Not sure it all depends.

    • @blacc_rain8124
      @blacc_rain8124 4 місяці тому +4

      Blackbeard is way too smart for that. I'm just going to sit back and let my captain cook

  • @MarianaBello-fq3hx
    @MarianaBello-fq3hx 4 місяці тому +47

    If the plan gets to happen off-scree you know he is going to win.

  • @MiguelAngel-jz7vo
    @MiguelAngel-jz7vo 4 місяці тому +25

    The only but i have with this theory is that BB pirates arrived to Egghead before the marines fleet arrived , so they were there before Saturn was confirmed.
    So, this was an improvisation, they wanted anyone with enough authority to supplant, or they had intel that a gorosei would arrive to the island

    • @sagecoder8802
      @sagecoder8802 4 місяці тому +4

      Indeed. Garp alone is enough to bargain with. If no intel, then Devone and Augar were most probably there for powerups or Vegapunk.

  • @austinharris9290
    @austinharris9290 4 місяці тому +32

    Its proof that Blackbeard as a genius is not to be underestimated

  • @theluigifan1
    @theluigifan1 4 місяці тому +15

    Blackbeard’s entire MO is “Work smarter, not harder.”

  • @galaxyvita2045
    @galaxyvita2045 4 місяці тому +31

    Even better we saw that Saturn just stayed on his room all alone when going to egghead.

  • @nyshyn307
    @nyshyn307 4 місяці тому +32

    11:35 I think observation is less of an "activation" and more like Spider Sense. As it is primarily meant to protect the user from harm it's easy to fool if nothing is threatening you and you're unaware that there's something to be looking for. This is why Carrot snuck onto the Straw Hat's ship easily, Blackbeard snuck an entire crew with a ship into Marineford's battle of elites, and Katakuri didn't know there was a mob watching and assisting him while he fought Luffy: all those actions had no innate harm to any of the subjects involved

    • @jukaa1012
      @jukaa1012 4 місяці тому +3

      nope

    • @taichimokubaful
      @taichimokubaful 4 місяці тому +8

      Sanji could sense a woman being attacked on the other side of Onigashima but not that the woman was actually baiting him into a trap😐 and he's VERY GOOD in observation Haki.
      How's that "Spider Sense"?

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 4 місяці тому +3

      Or it's just something that is consciously activated (except for Katakuri and Fujitora) like the manga directly states. 🤔

    • @chrislin6570
      @chrislin6570 4 місяці тому +3

      Crazy how one piece fans dont even read the story

    • @nyshyn307
      @nyshyn307 4 місяці тому

      @taichimokubaful
      1) I was talking in general, and you pulled up a specific character example. Exceptions wouldn't really go against this because the basic observation haki seems to fit that rule of thumb best. Future sight and Fujitora/Issho are clearly on a different tier of observation haki for example so obviously those go beyond what the standard is
      2) It's been said by the manga that Sanji honed his observation to detect women better while he was stranded on Kamabakka. It's not a good explanation in my eyes, Oda likely just did that to add another element to his obsession with women, but regardless it is the given reason. Oda also stated in a Vol 71 SBS that Sanji's specialty is in observation out of the 3 haki styles so it makes sense that his is attuned in a way other users' observation isn't, similar to the aforementioned Fujitora who can do outlandish things like "see" the weather and clouds despite being blind
      3) We were also told that emotions heavily tie into observation haki. Writing convenience or not Sanji is amazing at observation but was hit by bullets while fleeing from Queen on Onigashima because he was having a moment. Luffy could see the future but was so riled up that he didn't sense he was about to be one shot. Observation haki has many flaws even among "expert users"

  • @Problemsolver434
    @Problemsolver434 4 місяці тому +41

    I think it'll be hard to Devon to act and respond exactly like Saturn without accessing his knowledge. You can't just fake that for long

    • @Nortrodamas
      @Nortrodamas 4 місяці тому +13

      And just watch when they explain that her DFA allows her to have their knowledge as long as she is them.

    • @bigt100
      @bigt100 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Nortrodamasthat would be fire

    • @KayDSavage-dy6of
      @KayDSavage-dy6of 4 місяці тому +9

      ​@@bigt100no not really. cuz if she did she'd know waaay too much for a character that we'll barely see during the final battle. regardless of the knowledge she can't mimic strength

    • @dylanphelan3010
      @dylanphelan3010 4 місяці тому

      maybe they can use Pudding for that

    • @rockstar-made
      @rockstar-made 4 місяці тому +4

      @@KayDSavage-dy6of I don't see how her knowing a lot is a negative when eventually Blackbeard will know the exact same information lol

  • @TitanBait
    @TitanBait 4 місяці тому +15

    I don't think impersonating Saturn would work with Imu and the other Gorosei, not because of observation Haki, but just because I would think after 800 years they would know each other other pretty well. Impersonation could definitely get them in the door but any extended stay would definitely make them suspicious. They would know that there are at least 2 Devil fruits that allow someone to impersonate others, one of them being Catarina, one of most dangerous pirates on a Yonko's crew. Maybe she could trick them for a single meeting but what does she do after that? Just leave and then Saturn is MIA? Does she stay there for days, astronomically increasing the risk of them realizing Saturn is not behaving normally?
    Unless her power gives you the memories, personalities, and or powers of who they impersonate, I don't know how this could really pan out. She MIGHT be able to copy the powers of the person she copies just because she showed curiosity in Saturn's, but even still.
    I don't think the top 5 people in the world would fall for the "oh i forgot what we talked about in our last 800 years of meetings, can you remind me?"

    • @curtisjackson4090
      @curtisjackson4090 4 місяці тому +5

      This is exactly it. I commented the same thing... unless memories and personality are also copied with the Ninetails df, the Copy won't go that far at all

    • @TitanBait
      @TitanBait 4 місяці тому +1

      @@curtisjackson4090 Yeah, that seemed like a pretty big flaw that I'm not sure why Morj didn't address. I think they are going to use Saturn's likeness to cause mass confusion and enter government facilities. Very "in the moment" kind of usage rather than a long-term plan like getting them to agree to let him be King. He kind of was already king of the pirate island. His ambitions have moved past control over a single island or people as we've seen in this last chapter.

    • @soulscribe_h
      @soulscribe_h 4 місяці тому +1

      It's not even clear if Saturn holds that much of a weight among the elders for his sole opinion to make the rest of them agree on making BB an official king. If anything, him suggesting it and insisting on it would be the very thing that would expose Catarina @@TitanBait

  • @Jiver
    @Jiver 3 місяці тому +6

    oda bringing saturns buddies destroying this wonderful theory

  • @acetofresh1
    @acetofresh1 4 місяці тому +7

    Very interesting that part of Blackbeard’s story arc has been being a man from the sheer bottom of society achieving social mobility to the top through any means necessary. Through kindness, through subterfuge, through state power.

  • @alexandruandros1271
    @alexandruandros1271 4 місяці тому +15

    While this is more speculative, I find it hard to believe that the nine-tail fox fruit and the clone-clone fruit will work in the exact same way ability-wise, I'd imagine the nine-tail fox is more powerful due to being a mythical zoan. So what if the fox fruit also allows you to change the appearance of other people? In which case Blackbeard can take a significant shortcut and just turn himself into Saturn

  • @wholelottawhale4103
    @wholelottawhale4103 3 місяці тому +4

    This aged like the finest milk in the world LOL

  • @iurypadilha
    @iurypadilha 4 місяці тому +11

    By the last chapter Catarina complaint about them not being off the island already, the plan isn't to take Saturn's place right here, right now. They may even use Saturn's appearance to take information from Garp.

  • @retrohanska4441
    @retrohanska4441 4 місяці тому +9

    Boy did this immediately not age well. But to be fair, absolutely nobody expected Oda to escalate the conflict from both sides the way he did.

    • @wholelottawhale4103
      @wholelottawhale4103 3 місяці тому +2

      Literally one week and then this theory becomes a million times harder to make happen lolll😂

  • @Aaaa-gs7ww
    @Aaaa-gs7ww 4 місяці тому +5

    considering lafitte's introduction to the story was sneaking into marie geois I feel like the reason he wants a country has to be for something more ambitious than just gaining access to the holy land, with van augur now if his goal is to infiltrate and kill imu he's more than equipped already

  • @ianprivett9210
    @ianprivett9210 4 місяці тому +6

    While there's a lot of focus on Katarina impersonating Saturn for politics, let's also not forget that the Gorosei are also the top authority for all of the Pacifistas/Seraphim (excluding Bonnie). Is Blackbeard going to have the WG come to rescue Garp only to have their Pacifistas/Seraphims turn on them via Katarina's Saturn transformation taking authority?

  • @OtakuTalkOD
    @OtakuTalkOD 4 місяці тому +4

    Good video but i think it's hilarious we just jump right to them knowing Saturn is an imposter because of observation haki and not simply hey Saturn acting different and does not know high level information and protocol.

  • @wildwtv1
    @wildwtv1 3 місяці тому +3

    Nice theory, but I doubt Catarina can bypass imu as saturn. Especially with whatever telepathy they use and their weird connection to imu. I feel it'll be difficult

  • @akashshetty5112
    @akashshetty5112 4 місяці тому

    Great job with that elaborate explanation Mr. Morj! I always enjoy your commentary and insight on One Piece. Please, keep up the good work! ❤

  • @BraceDecades
    @BraceDecades 4 місяці тому +35

    I feel like Imu and the Gorosei would notice the switch anyway, Observation or not. These men have lived together literal centuries and probably seen a lot weirder things than impersonation and doppelgangers.
    But that still doesn't mean they can do anything about it. It'd be some really big egg on their face if the truth came out. So they'd be forced to play along, at least for a while.

    • @curtisjackson4090
      @curtisjackson4090 4 місяці тому +7

      Lol facts.... It would literally be like the Body Snatchers trope in films. People that are close with the individual will KNOW something is wrong.
      Unless the 9 tails also copies the person's personal/ memories.... it really won't fool ppl that actually know them for that long

    • @KayDSavage-dy6of
      @KayDSavage-dy6of 4 місяці тому +3

      and we know she can't mimic strength cuz she would've done it sooner. cuz why would she nor touch law or even Jesus burgess if she could mimic powers or strength..hell they could've had boas powers by now.

    • @userusernomi
      @userusernomi 4 місяці тому +3

      @@curtisjackson4090 if it doesn't allow something like a full personality copy along with memories and everything, I don't see how it would be different than Bon Clay's fruit. Unless Oda just literally created a copy fruit with a different name because he didn't wanna kill Bon Clay. I really hope this fruit's ability goes beyond just a body copy.

    • @poutineausyropderable7108
      @poutineausyropderable7108 4 місяці тому

      ​@@curtisjackson4090
      If it copies memories, then that by itself is gonna be worth everything.
      Having access to all the knowledge a gorosei keeps hidden, that's a bigger chip then anything else.
      Especially to make a plan of attack.

    • @bishopofeternity48
      @bishopofeternity48 4 місяці тому

      They have Pudding. In addition to memories, think of all the juicy secrets they can steal.

  • @xuepingsong5329
    @xuepingsong5329 4 місяці тому

    Great video as usual.

  • @jazzyprince3335
    @jazzyprince3335 4 місяці тому +1

    I’ve been anticipating this theory since your 1107 stream, can’t wait to finally see what you have to say.

  • @arunrana9887
    @arunrana9887 4 місяці тому +7

    As always, your theory certainly makes a valid argument which could happen in the future. But while watching the video, I had another thought which represent an alternate viewpoint. Assume the blackbeard is able to infiltrate the WG but eventually, Gorosei and Imu figures it out and Kill him, assuming by the time BB is already well know than what he currently is. In that case, it would be proved how WGs and Imu survived the 800 years so far reigning on the top. This will also make them a formidable enemy which would question how would luffy face them and what the strawhats will do.
    This is just a theory ofc, as I also feel BB eventually needs to be defeated by Luffy and not anybody else and I also agree with your point in the video, but what if everything I wrote above turns out to be true, but I too feel that would be highly unlikely. (Also, this is the longest comment by me on any video so far and also validates my one of the earlier comments on your video Mr. Morj where I said that yours is the only channel with most of the comments being the longest comments). Thank you for reading, everyone who did.

  • @moosatch8586
    @moosatch8586 4 місяці тому

    Always a good time listening to some Morj thoughts, thank you for your videos! A pleasure on a nice day!

  • @jaywbell2002
    @jaywbell2002 4 місяці тому +10

    BB did in ten chapters what it took Luffy to do in 20 years of story he’s the greatest mastermind I’ve seen in shonnen he’s gonna be Aizen level by the end of the show in terms of planning 😊

  • @hassy4969
    @hassy4969 4 місяці тому +2

    Thematically this is perfect too. Luffy's actions have also strangely aided BB everytime i feel like, making it a correct parallel.

  • @yukijadenfilms3425
    @yukijadenfilms3425 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m 10000% sure that no matter what Imu will kill off Katarina later into the story and just to pretend to think that she’s Saturn.

  • @whimzycloud
    @whimzycloud 4 місяці тому +1

    Devon impersonating Saturn should give her control over the Seraphim

  • @FelipeFrotaBass
    @FelipeFrotaBass 4 місяці тому

    one of my favorite videos, loved it

  • @damnbruh7612
    @damnbruh7612 4 місяці тому +1

    Personally, I think that Blackbeard aim is to control the seraphim with Devon, not to sneak into Mariejois. After touching Saturn, Auger and Devon said that this was an unforeseen blessing and even better than their original goal. I believe that their original goal was for Devon to touch Vegapunk in order to control the Seraphim, since they didn't assume a Gorosei was going to make an appearance. And because Saturn is even higher than Vegapunk on the hierarchy, it's even better for the BB Pirates since no one would be able to take away control of the Seraphim.

  • @jtthomas7349
    @jtthomas7349 4 місяці тому +4

    I have a theory that Teach and Dragon cut a deal to work together to take down the Celestial dragons when they met and probably fought at Baltigo. We've heard next to nothing in like 300 chapters since that conflict. It would fit both Teach and Dragon's master planner character traits. And as a pirate and Rev they don't have any natural conflict. It would be cool to see all the will of D boys take down Imu together then battle it out after.

    • @ironboy89
      @ironboy89 4 місяці тому

      That would be sick.

  • @samuellaakso7012
    @samuellaakso7012 4 місяці тому +2

    Imagine the size of the bargaining chips BB's going to have once Caribou tells him his knowledge on the Ancient Weapons. If he still needs them at this point.

  • @derpderpson8796
    @derpderpson8796 4 місяці тому +2

    I wonder what was the BB Pirates actual goal on Egghead. I think it has to do something with Vegapunk or the Seraphim, Saturn landing there gave them a fortune shortcut though.

  • @derrickmiles5240
    @derrickmiles5240 4 місяці тому +3

    Too many holes in this theory. First, BB had no way of knowing Saturn would be there. Thus it's likely their original target was someone reported to be on the island. Second, this plan does not account for Saturn living. The plan needs to work regardless of the outcome here.
    You were so close Morj. BB had an agent on Doflamingo's island. He knows Doffy had blackmail info on the WG. From BBs perspective it's reasonable to assume that Doffy, confronted with a Gorosei or an ASSASSIN, would raise the matter of his blackmail in an attempt to barter for his life. Doffy is cut off from info so it doesn't matter if their target dies.
    That gives BB the same leverage Doffy had, as well as setting up his play for the empty throne.

  • @sub.sa.3058
    @sub.sa.3058 4 місяці тому +2

    Garp's capture's importance will either be off screened, or shown later, maybe in Elbaf, in the side like in egghead. And things will get more and more chaotic.

  • @sfxdlwsrs
    @sfxdlwsrs 4 місяці тому +2

    Maybe Katarina poses as Saturn in chains for the Gorousei to see

  • @steezmac732
    @steezmac732 4 місяці тому +14

    I don’t think Observation Haki can always be used to determine is someone is a phony or not. It’s more about foresight and reading intentions. I’m sure some characters would be able see things others can’t with observation though.

    • @Arkayjiya
      @Arkayjiya 4 місяці тому +4

      this. it's not even that you don't constantly use it, it's also that it doesn't necessarily allow you to identify someone.

  • @blakex2699
    @blakex2699 4 місяці тому

    i got to save this to watch later but thank you for making this video. i always said blackbeard was my favorite villain next to azula from avatar the last Airbender. and the fact oda mentioned his hobbies are studying history make so much sense. his planning ability while not perfect as shown when Magellan literally almost kill him. it still impressive.. he plan his rise to power since being on wb ship. his break in of impel down. how he stole wb power then all his territory was genius..

  • @adoniscreed4031
    @adoniscreed4031 4 місяці тому +4

    I never thought about it, but if the Marines capturing Roger and executing him was a world changing event, Black Beard capturing and executing Garp would be an event on the same level but on the opposite direction. The WG can't afford to let this happen.

  • @user-yv8gx7qq9s
    @user-yv8gx7qq9s 4 місяці тому

    Good video as always Morj. I got the impression the BB pirates were retreating for now, especially from Devons comment on how they were still on the island.

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 4 місяці тому +1

    Imu is using Observation Haki all the time.
    Its why he's such a Godlike Being to the Celestial Dragons.
    In fact it will play part of why he betrayed Joyboy. He knew he would betray him all along.
    But most important his Observation Haki is not perfect, it shows what he wants. Which is why everything he has planned was for his Great Plan. He can see far into the future and even alternate futures, and all this time everything he has done was to ensure that Alternate Future is the one that becomes the True Future.
    Its why everyone is irrelevant for him. So long as that Goal is reached.
    He is haunted by how Good his Observation Haki is, so good that it can see specific parts of alternate futures.

  • @shorii2951
    @shorii2951 4 місяці тому +3

    Theres one thing that doesnt make sense for this theory. Why does Blackbeard need Garp, when he could just use Saturn (Devon) as a Pawn for negotiating? If Saturn dies on Egghead, but nobody from the government knows, then he could just claim that he rescued/captured him, to use the disguised Devon as a pawn why simultaneously getting her into the inner circle. Also why did they claim the mission to be complete, when saturn isnt even defeated yet? Why count on luffy to beat saturn, when they could stay around, to make sure he dies.

    • @djacks247
      @djacks247 4 місяці тому

      The Saturn thing was a lucky coincidence that was not part of the plab

  • @rangalang9669
    @rangalang9669 4 місяці тому +3

    Where does finding the One Piece fit into Blackbeard's plan? Maybe that's necessary either to kill Imu or for what comes after killing Imu?

  • @TheKrigeron
    @TheKrigeron 4 місяці тому +2

    MOOOORJ you speedreader. Saturn being there was dortuitous but that wasn't their objective at first. They came there for another mission and saw a shortcut by finding Saturn there, impersonating a Gorosei would be improvisation.

  • @andreiapetrei1605
    @andreiapetrei1605 4 місяці тому +3

    I mean if they do take over Marijois, Avalo then can become the Red Line with his Devil fruit, that would actually be insane. Circling back at what the giants said about a ‘giant snake soaked in blood’ that surrounds the planet.

  • @TheMrstevewalker
    @TheMrstevewalker 4 місяці тому +18

    My only problem with this theory is that you’re assuming the other Gorosei and Imu don’t have Vivre Cards. So I don’t think the real Saturn can die and Catarina be able to fool the other Gorosei and Imu. Unless her fruit gives her all his memories and Abilities it would be trash if they fell for that BS after living 900 years

    • @zaryabK-vi8fh
      @zaryabK-vi8fh 4 місяці тому +2

      true but the fruit being mythical might be for this reason that it can not only copy someone but also get their memories else it's just bon clays fruit

    • @sunwukong5518
      @sunwukong5518 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@zaryabK-vi8fhSo the BB Pirates basically know all about the Void Century now?

    • @bishopofeternity48
      @bishopofeternity48 4 місяці тому

      Why would they have vivre cards?

    • @sunwukong5518
      @sunwukong5518 4 місяці тому +7

      @@bishopofeternity48 Why not? They are the most important public figures

    • @keepinitrealdio
      @keepinitrealdio 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@sunwukong5518blackbeard has always been ahead of everyone in the supernova, wouldnt be surprised if he got to know all that and more and we even get an arc or two with Blackbeard (maybe with Imu as co-king/queen) ruling the world

  • @GeorgeMesaros
    @GeorgeMesaros 3 місяці тому

    On observation haki: as I understand it the basic application is letting you see that somebody is there, like knowing how many enemies there are and where they are + in a fight you get to read the oponent's moves. I'm not sure it's stated anywhere you can figure out somebody's identity through observation haki. That means it's reasonable to assume observation haki is as vulnerable as regular sight when it comes to imitating appearance

  • @ryanarmani3082
    @ryanarmani3082 4 місяці тому +3

    Honestly if we stick with the 3 devil fruit theory, and expect the gorosei (or even Imu) to have mythical zoans, it would be series-defining to have BB take Imu’s devil fruit now that he has access to Imu. BB would have the strongest fruits from each category, and it would pin Luffy against the strongest foe possible

  • @luffyjam
    @luffyjam 4 місяці тому +1

    Don't forget that Pudding can see ppl's memories.

  • @Ray_D_Tutto
    @Ray_D_Tutto 4 місяці тому +9

    Maybe Blackbeard has someone he wants to unpetrify (Boa Hancock could have lied about previous users being unable to). He won't need Hancock if he has S-Snake under his command via Caterina Devon posing as a Gorosei.

  • @Fireywhiteboi
    @Fireywhiteboi 4 місяці тому +3

    Blackbeard walking into Marisjois with Shanks head 😭😭😭

    • @GreenHotDogz
      @GreenHotDogz 4 місяці тому

      Yea right 😂 basically saying Shanks haki loses against someone with Devil fruit dependency

  • @pokeminer8400
    @pokeminer8400 4 місяці тому +3

    Do we know if Blackbeard knows about Imu? As far as I remember the only people who we have confirmed knowledge of Imu's existence is The Gorosei, Sabo/The Heads of the Revolutionary Army, Vivi, and Wapol?

  • @jaegerjaqueztv233
    @jaegerjaqueztv233 4 місяці тому +1

    BB can possibly control seraphim now via devon (saturn appearance). "Mission Completed" maybe bcuz the real reason they went to egghead is to get that command authority for seraphim by copying vegapunk. And since saturn is there it make "easier" for them to complete that mission. 💀

  • @barrow_3490
    @barrow_3490 4 місяці тому

    The end of the video really tied it all together. Great theory.
    I hope Oda briefly explains what the BB pirate were attempting in Egghead in the first place. Perhaps, Devon was only going to impersonate Vegapunk or Kizaru to first enable Devon's access to Mary-Joe's before imprinting on a Gorosei. The unexplained happen-stance is otherwise hard to digest.

  • @gakatasintoki1881
    @gakatasintoki1881 4 місяці тому

    Love your content morj but I love cooking idc about Factor one bit😂

  • @simplyemmanuel2850
    @simplyemmanuel2850 4 місяці тому

    Damn it Morj You Got Me

  • @kahamsha
    @kahamsha 4 місяці тому +1

    MORJ!!!!! YOU CONNECTING SOME DOTS MY BOY!!!!!!

  • @alaye5583
    @alaye5583 4 місяці тому +4

    Imagine if Devon’s df gives her access to memories

    • @TheBlueBlur100
      @TheBlueBlur100 4 місяці тому

      They already have Pudding for that

    • @sunwukong5518
      @sunwukong5518 4 місяці тому +3

      No it would be dumb.
      If that werenthe case the BB pirates would know about the Void Century

  • @hamoudaxp97
    @hamoudaxp97 4 місяці тому

    This makes sense! Maybe Catharina's fruit allows here to, not only impersonate others with contact, but she can also get access to their personnality/memories. That would make here inflitration make sense, and Blackbeard would also know the whearabouts of Uranus and Imu (supposing that Uranus is in Marijoie), and many other things.

  • @KayDSavage-dy6of
    @KayDSavage-dy6of 4 місяці тому +3

    the one thing we havent considered is saturn being the bargaining chip

  • @gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926
    @gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 4 місяці тому +2

    shanks is walking around using conquerors haki all the time

    • @georgez2702
      @georgez2702 4 місяці тому

      He turns it on and off genius

  • @KellyClowers
    @KellyClowers 4 місяці тому

    And that kid on Skypeia... she had always on observation haki, but seems to have been straight up born with it

  • @veganbazooka2148
    @veganbazooka2148 4 місяці тому

    Morj is blazin these days

  • @emmanuelajayi1308
    @emmanuelajayi1308 3 місяці тому +1

    Latest chapter seems to have confirmed the elder stars can communicate telepathically. Therefore Katerina would not be able to successfully fool the others.

  • @princek_24
    @princek_24 4 місяці тому

    You’ve done it again cooked 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @KataisTrash
    @KataisTrash 3 місяці тому

    Feels like copying the appearance and behavior won't be enough: the Gorosei seem to communicate telepathically. Unless that gets copied too, it seems unlikely she would fool anyone. Even worse: that means that if Saturn dies, he can tell them that he has been defeated (without anyone being around). Even if he can't, they would certainly wonder why he didn't report back telepathically if he survived (that would be the fastest and most secretive way to inform them, so any other way would seem out of place).

  • @kamarrawlings6285
    @kamarrawlings6285 4 місяці тому +1

    Devon better hope that Imu is not a person who doesn’t tolerate failure and kill her on the spot lol

  • @jackroberts2704
    @jackroberts2704 4 місяці тому

    He can't keep getting away with this!

  • @BladeYGO
    @BladeYGO 4 місяці тому

    It seems VERY likely that Von Augur was the one to put luffy next to the food machine as well with the warp fruits, which adds an additional layer that Blackbeard may have been responsible for luffy beating Saturn and the escape of the straw hats.
    Awesome vids as always Morj, I’m always looking forward to weekly vids in my feed

  • @BrolyPowerMaximum
    @BrolyPowerMaximum 4 місяці тому +1

    10:45 it’s not just thanks to Luffy that they get to mimic Saturn, it’s also thanks to the StrawHats Blackbeard is going to know about the ancient weapon locations,
    … and thanks to them that Fishmen Island will be attacked.

  • @rojoanguimena3038
    @rojoanguimena3038 4 місяці тому

    That stairclimber is gonna do it

  • @EmperorFreezaSama
    @EmperorFreezaSama 4 місяці тому +2

    You did *NOT* cook but, it is indeed BLACKBEARD’S ERA!

  • @iRemilia
    @iRemilia 4 місяці тому +4

    i like the theory, but does blackbeard even know imu exists?

  • @RanDSavage
    @RanDSavage 4 місяці тому

    "babe wake up Mr Morj just uploaded a new video"

  • @TwilightNK
    @TwilightNK 4 місяці тому

    The way my jaw dropped at 7:45 when it clicked in my head where this theory was going 😭

  • @NotTheWEJ
    @NotTheWEJ 4 місяці тому +2

    Blackbeard could just use “Saturn” as the barganing chip

  • @asimkasir
    @asimkasir 4 місяці тому

    But have to consider Fake Saturn will be surrounded by other powerful character like Elder, Imu and Admirals. So i think her infiltration will be quick and well planned together with other BB Pirates. Black Beard will get something fast that it will be too late for the other to notice.
    Most likely Black Beard will orchestrate another Marineford level event which the Holyland will be involve and while everyone is busy they will infiltrate. My guest will be Revolutionary vs WG event on Holyland.

  • @555lemonade
    @555lemonade 4 місяці тому

    If the gorosei are immortal, I would presume that they would quickly suspect Katirina's identity. They should all know each other pretty well even if they are just acquaintances. There could be a lot of small telltale signs that point to Saturn being a fake like maybe he sits down in the same spot every time. Also, I would presume Kizaru would leave with Saturn unless he dies or fully leaves the Marines, which I don't see, and it also looks like Katirina is leaving now, so I would guess that she isn't immediately infiltrating Marygeoise.

  • @Darthlightskin
    @Darthlightskin 4 місяці тому +25

    So my theory is Katarina is gonna transform into Saturn and announce that hachinosou is gonna be its own kingdom either that or they are gonna pretend like they captured Saturn after luffy beats him.

    • @KittSpiken
      @KittSpiken 4 місяці тому +8

      This seems like a better way to fool them rather than convince us she's convinced them that she is their colleague whom they're known their entire lives.

    • @ClanDWoolz
      @ClanDWoolz 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh great idea! Capturing Saturn would def be a chip worth bargaining for.

    • @mokaljordan
      @mokaljordan 4 місяці тому

      Yup this seems to be the case if saturn dies or is in a predicament that prevents him from returning to Mariejois as Caterina and Augur seems to be banking on one of these 2 options when they adjusted the mission

    • @koketso31
      @koketso31 3 місяці тому

      weak ass theory

  • @erickramirez65
    @erickramirez65 4 місяці тому

    If BB just wanted to get access to mariejois he doesn't need to become a king. Fisher tiger just climbed the red line. He could use the island fruit, invisibility fruit and warp fruit and that would be enough to get into pangea

  • @bennybeck
    @bennybeck 4 місяці тому

    Loving this turn of events, I couldn’t wrap my head around why they showed up and it more than delivered. I can actually see them being the final villains now because before Imu and the elders were making a good case, it’s not so clear now.

  • @isaiahdavis5957
    @isaiahdavis5957 4 місяці тому

    Basically Kizaru is getting his shit rocked before the Saturn Switcheroo happens

  • @persononinternet7868
    @persononinternet7868 4 місяці тому +2

    No one talking about how devina (the 9 tails fox user) might have touched garp meaning she has his appearance and a goresei's appearence

  • @pandanganmatiyn1487
    @pandanganmatiyn1487 4 місяці тому

    Sounds like the next "raid in Onigashima will fail" theory soup to me. And I'm here for it

  • @karimamr3963
    @karimamr3963 4 місяці тому

    bro blackbeard is like that one kid who was able to get the answer key for the test EVERYTIME

  • @rebelrebel8398
    @rebelrebel8398 4 місяці тому

    2:42 this is Buggy D Clown slander I will not tolerate, know your masterminds behind greatest jailbreak in history

  • @GabberGandalf93
    @GabberGandalf93 4 місяці тому

    I like the idea of this sequence of events and think they will happen, however I doubt Blackbeard planned this at all. He is more of an opportunist and can improvise extremely well.
    He went to Amazon Lily to get Boa (or at least her fruit)
    He never anticipated to leave with Coby instead and especially never anticipated the Seraphim.
    With this knowledge he sent Van Augr and Devon to Egghead. To get hold of these new super weapons.
    They most likely wanted to copy Vegapunk to get control of the seraphim, but Saturn is an even better loot, since he is higher in the command hierarchy.
    Meanwhile BB could not have known that Cobys Imprisonment would lead to a raid from Garp.
    So BB got an even better bargaining chip than before.
    I think BB has a plan, but the story gives him even better cards right now.

  • @leman337
    @leman337 4 місяці тому

    seeing Van Augur stake BB's claim over the world last chapter reminded me of what i imagine the original celestial dragons may have been like back in the void century. i feel like they can really take over the world