I got a theory bout joyboy. He was oars 1, the orginal continent puller and in his battle with the new world gov. His crew got captured. He probably could have kept fighting but valued his crew more so made a deal with the world government to spare their lives. The deal was to split pangea and make the grand line and the one piece world we see today. When he was doing this lily helped him leave poneglyphs around and thats why the gorosei despise her so much. After his journey of leaving the poneglyphs he went to wano, the country that isnt governed by the world government and lived the rest of his life. The giant skull in onigashima is his and i feel like thats only fitting thats why kaido lived there, someone who wanted to be joyboy and luffy unlocked gear 5 there. Thats also why the robot apologized for being captured or defeated and why zuenesha wasnt killed and now instead is walking for 800 years because of a crime zuenesha committed
Thank god I hate april fools so much. It makes the internet unusable for 2 days for no good reason. 99% of the jokes are not funny and just a waste of time.
Ugh, my ears hurts cuz he got all real facts wrong or he doesn't read. Called vikings pirates, and he also called Kaido a serpent. Oh my god, never recommend this channel again 😢
I was the guy who asked if it was worth catching up on the manga and you said it absolutely was…. Fast forward to today, and I’m so grateful I caught up. Thanks man!
Oda said that he always wanted to draw a character with an eyepatch. He said when we see a character with an eyepatch, one piece will be near its end. Eyepatches are mainly attributed to pirates, but do you know who else wore an eyepatch? The Allfather, Odin. The left eye symbolism in the show is already insane.
Ragnarök includes the world sinking underwater? Can't you believe this video was released before vegapunks reveal stating the same thing, you must have been excited lol
I know it was only briefly mentioned at 20:52, but this really reminded me of something I learned from one of GrandLineReviews recent videos on Blackbeard, on how he was supposed to originally be accompanied by three women. Maybe these women where like the norns? Could be why BB won't stop jammering about "fate" and "destiny" every five seconds...
The comparison of Shanks and Odin got me thinking maybe the parellel exists somewhere else. We know he got that scar on his eye from Blackbeard, so to me it doesn't seem like it was a sacrifice he made. So what if him losing his arm while saving Luffy was that sacrifice? If you want to go even further, you could even say it wasn't an accident, he could've easily dealt with the Sea Beast, but chose to give away his arm for some other gain, just like how Odin gave up his eye for wisdom.
i am fully convinced shanks cut his own arm off before ever getting in the water. it was a yakuza apology to the underworld boss, and now he's the underworld boss.
This is literally what happened in the story tho, shanks even said to wb (i think, or rayleigh) that he "bet" his arm on the new generation. We know this, there is no need to speculate.
That is kind of what I meant, the speculation part is the parallel with Odin and there possibly being some other gain besides betting on the future.@@thepixel024
Shanks has that comparison with Tyr too, the norse god that dies just when ragnarok is about to start. Anyway, your theories are the best!keep up the good work man and a big shout-out from Brazil 🤙
Honestly Luffy is like Loki. Because Loki is the one to start Ragnarok. Loki also a children of Giant, with a size of a human, like Luffy ancestors is Joyboy the giant. The only thing that doesn't fit in is the world serpent should be on Loki side to fight Asgardian, not with them.
Congrats on another banger, Hidden! You should check out the myth of Kvasir and the Mead of Poetry. I think that Kvasir is analogous to the technology that Vegapunk was working on with Punk Records and global connection to knowledge. This tech likely was present during the Void Century and could have been Binks Sake... I believe that drinking Binks Sake (Mead of Poetry) granted your dreams/wishes in the form of devil fruits... Eventually it gets stolen and hidden under a huge mountain... I could go on but I'll leave you to fill in the rest
Yoooo that part about imu standing in the garden with the tree of eve that’s grows devil fruits in the back had me getting hype af because that something I could 100% see and would absolutely love to see great video man keep em coming
I'm torn between "This video is well researched and slickly edited and you did a great job on it." and "The idea that Luffy is gonna wreck Mariejois isn't a fan theory, it's an inevitability."
Peak theory as always! I know you probably won’t see this and have your own theories in the works but I would love to see a video like the Koby one recently but with Sabo. I think he is super important in the story but people are pushing him to the side like Koby. The fact that he is the first person to see the Gorosei forms shows how vital of a character he is in the final saga! Keep up the great vids as we come to the end of Egghead!
Nordic person here, and I just wanted to say that the Jotnar being "a race of giants" is actually a common misconception. They were neither giants nor a different race to the Aesir/Vanir. They were distant cousins to them, but of a different tribe, again not a race, but a tribe. Many of them were even worshipped as gods themselves and they did have powers rivaling the gods, which is why they were so feared, as not only were they on par with the gods, but they outnumbered them greatly. But most Jotnar were the same size as regular people, and only a few grew to gigantic proportions, they weren't born that way. This is because the Jotnar were beings of chaos so their appearence and sometimes size would reflect that. You could also look at them as gods of chaos, or anti gods. But the vast majority of them were no taller then a regular man. It would be the same with calling all humans for dwarves IRL just because a few of us grow a bit shorter then the rest, but that doesn't mean all of us are dwarves. Same with the Jotnar, just because a few of them grew a little bigger then the rest, doesn't mean all of them were giants. All giants in Norse Mythology were Jotnar, that is true, but not all Jotnar were giants. It's funny that giants have become synonomis (or however you spell that word) with Norse Mythology when there aren't actually any giants aside from maybe 2-3 here and there, and Greek Mythology actually have more of them. Jotnar and giants are two seperate things. Calling a Jotunn a giant is the same as calling a fairy for a dragon just because both have wings.
This seems super connected, thank you for pointing this out Hidden, you got great theories and this is for sure one of my favorites, it’s so cool that One Piece is so deep like this. W
I don’t read, watch or even follow one piece. But I somehow was introduced to the mythos and I’ve looked into it a bunch and found it fascinating. Came across your videos awhile ago and I’ve gotta say, you’ve convinced me! Amazing production and analysis.
Excellent theory! I feel like I need to brush up on my Norse mythology and listen to the Poetic Edda before this break is over, you never know what Oda will pull out.
@10:20 could be why crocodile wanted pluton, maybe he already knows what’s its meant for, I think he was a slave as a child correct? So revenge against the dragons
Actually, just a thought... Luffy's generals all relate to the same thing as the ancient weapons. Sanji's mom is Sora - sky - Uranus Zoro's mom is Tera - earth - Pluton Jinbe is the first son of the sea - Poseidon And it makes sense for Zoro and Jinbe to commandeer Pluton and Poseidon. Zoro is from the land of Wano, and Wano is where Pluton hides. Jinbe knows Shirahoshi personally and would be the best to work with her undersea. That leaves Sanji to commander Uranus. But from that thread, would Uranus be in the North Blue? Or with Germa? (after listening, eta: so Elbaf, how does that connect to Sanji though?)
Been taking a break from watching one piece content. But I’m so happy to be coming back and seeing that your videos are doing so well. I remember watching the first ones years ago and knowing that you’d be able to make it.
I only got into One Piece recently and I still can't get over how long Elbaf has been set up for. Oda has the patience of a saint to save it for this long.
I never made the leap to read the ridiculous back-catalog of OP, but I've been following the story from a certain point. Your theories are some of the best, for sure (and your channel's theme is perfect "chill"). I'm really looking forward to the answers that seem only just around the corner now. I'm sure the traditions of the Giants include a LOT of good lore. After all, Elbaf | fablE - what fable? Oh, only the very tale that the world government has wanted to keep very quiet for generations. Vegapunk, Ohara, etc knew the truth of the past, but only the Giants might know both the past AND what is fated to happen in the future (assuming it's not just a Norse naming scheme.. but it's Oda, so there will be some actual overlap, and it won't be just surface-deep). You've earned my subscription. Keep doing what you do :)
Another thing to note is how Arlong Park looks VERY similar to the original Marineford HQ design. Almost like a metaphor about how cyclical things can get without agents of change like Luffy around to make sure power doesn't get too corrupt. Left unchecked, the roles simply reversed, and humans became the new fish-men and mermaids, while the fish-men became the new celestial dragons and world govt. "Justice" has no face, only a goal. Freedom, however, does have a face. And a will. And a name. And it all ties into Luffy, the Will of D, Nika, and Elbaph.
I can't believe I still didn't do IMU=YMIR after already 270 versions of that dude lmao. Great idea, and makes sense, so I'll do at least one. Thanks for sharing those ideas. -The Imu Guy
Really enjoyed the piece at the end talking about Ymir being taken down by Oden. Made me think of how much Luffy paralleled Oden in Wano. That plus the three brothers being Will, Wisdom and Spirit with Luffy carrying everyone's will, Sabo being wise beyond his years when he was young and Ace... being there in spirit...
I like the theory. Regarding "Urdabrunnr", I think Oda initially might have wanted to make Skypiea One Piece's "Urdabrunnr". As we know, Oda himself has said that he initially didnt think One Piece would go as long as it does, so I think when he got to Skypiea he had already made some parallels to Urdabrunnr but then decided to keep the show going and changed the skript a little. Some parallels: -highest layer = in the sky -3 maidens live at the well = the three Skypiean races: Birkans, Shandians and Skypieans -maidens that peer into the future = the Mantora that the priests of Skypiea as well as the little girl from the Shandians possessed, which we know would call just an advanced form of observation haki. Maybe the little girl could have played an even more important role in a parallel universe? -runes = well there was one porneglyph there I suppose but probably that was already partly changed. My guess is in a more shortened version One Piece would have still visited Elbaf as one of the last islands, since that was mentioned before Skypiea but maybe there wouldnt have been a Wano Kuni or even maybe even no Zou (if the need of road porneglyphs hadnt been a thing and since Zou was heavily intertwined with Wano). So like, after Skypiea where they had acquired knowledge of the first ancient weapon Uranus, they would continue to learn about Pluton on Water 7 and about Poseidon on Fishman Island but after Fishman they could have more or less already set sails to Elbaf to collect all 3 ancient weapons and destroy the red line. But either way, since One Piece was such a success and there was no need to finish it fast we got to see far more of the One Piece world and a potentially altered in which the strawhats learned about the ancient weapons. Thats just my theory... to your theory LOL. Also fun fact: In the German intro of the Skypiea arc ("Übers Meer) they also said that there is a "valuable treasure above the skies and only the one who acquires it can become king of the pirates", although in the original Japanese version (Bon Voyage) there is no mention of that so they took some translation liberty in it (in the original they just say "a treasure at the end of the sea and the one that claims it will be king of the pirates" which could just as well mean laugh tale). Also thats why I dont think we will get to see any return of Urouge, as some had theorized since he is so far pretty much the only supernova that didnt have any friendly or hostile relation to Luffy and his crew. (or maybe they eventually acquire Uranus and place it on Skypiea with the help of Urouge to place it "in the sky"??? similarly to how you said, that the redline will be destroyed from above, below and at sea level idk)
Just stumbled upon your channel and can I tell you, from the calming intro to the way you put your video together the information and the outcome man I had to subscribe, great job man
I feel like your spot on. Don't forget in fishman island arc, the fishman fortuneteller foresaw Luffy destroying fishman island and she said she's never been wrong. That's why there originally scared of straw hats. Luffy will def liberate fishman island by destroying it.
Dang, this is a really compelling theory. I still can’t believe we’ll probably end up on elbaf this arc. Something else that goes with this theory that’s interesting is that ragnarok is a cycle. Given that we know that the lunarians were the red lines previous inhabitants, I wouldn’t be suprised if ragnorok has played out before and the difference this time will be breaking the cycle of history. This theory makes me wonder if joyboy was attempting to do the same with the ancient weapons, and was either betrayed my Imu or they were never fighting together but imu ended up taking over the redline after joyboy drove out the lunarians. If either is the case, I’m sure Blackbeard will attempt to do the same and then luffy will succeed where joyboy failed especially given him trying to get in good with the world government. But maybe that’s just my hope that Blackbeard will be the final antagonist lol. Anyway, great vid as always!
I've been intrigued by Sisyphys the last couple weeks, the man cursed to forever roll a boulder up a mountain only to restart at the bottom each day. Makes me kind of wonder if other Nika Fruit users made it far on the Grand Line and if maybe one did awaken near wherever the Iron Oas was being stored 200 years ago. It didn't awaken when Luffy got Gear 5 on Wano a week or two sail away, so maybe Zunesha couldn't hear the time it awakened 200 years ago before that Joyboy was killed and the fruit went to a new user. Also how the WG got it +/- 13 years ago, they finally got the user to Impel Down or something and had the only fruit for a long distance upstairs in the guard house until it flipped into a new fruit. I also gotta say I still think Blackbeard is the final antagonist, seems like Luffy and Blackbeard will fight for the power vacuum that is about to appear in the world. Plus there is a part of me that thinks Blackbeard needs to WG to tell him where the Man Marked by Flames is for the Final Poneglyph which is why Catarina touching Saturn matters, and it also matters that the last time we saw Leffitte was when they asked a recently recruited Kuzan who the Man Marked by Flames is.(who I think is the Warlord Ace beat before Luffy took off, Ace would have burnt that Warlord correct?)
I hope this channel blows up off this post! Never had you cross my screen but glad I found it, great vibe to your video and amazing intro/editing. Keep going man! You’re onto something great
Hidden, You're the goat. You're one of the EXTREMELY few who actually gets how Oda works. I've watched so many videos and theories, this is one of the very few times that a theory sounds exactly like how Oda thinks and makes OP. I love Par but come on... Vander Decken being a mushroom? This video is peak. Ty Hidden!
10:56 shit hits hard when you realize the five elders are also named after planets and the ancient weapons are also named after them, Poseidon's roman name is Neptune but we already have it as the king's name.
I was really worried for a split second that this was an april fools joke and then I immediately felt relief when I looked at your pinned comment. "Oh thank god, because I had been craving an Elbaf vid"
7:35 this was 2 months before we learned the world was flooded after a battle with joyboy against the alliance of 20 kingdoms (the gods) maybe has some correlation?
Great theory. I think the Red Line theory is 100% right. I’m curious as to how exactly it was created though. So much potential there. Also excited to see how much of this lines up with whatever we get in the void century reveal. Nice job and high quality though!
I like how you laid out your theory man, good video. Especially the Imu tie in to Ymir. What do we think happened to the Egg Roger had? Because there is a myth in Slavic mythology about the Buyan Bird protecting a giant tree, maybe the Adam tree on Elbaf? The 3 Fates that you said sit at the top of Yggdrasil at a well also appear in Greek Mythology, and lately I've been really thinking about the 3 times the Iron Oars seems to have awoken 800/200/now. Could we describe the challenge of Luffy(really the Nika Fruit) reaching Laugh Tale at the end of the Grand Line like a climbing a mountain? Because for some reason the myth of Sisyphys pushing a boulder up the mountain day after day only to start again at the bottom has become very intriging to me. Especailly after we found out the fruit hadn't been captured in 800 years by the WG until about 13 years ago right? So what if it kept getting eaten by different users who all tried to make it to Laugh Tale toeither finish what was started or avenge the original Joyboy, because Zoan fruits can carry some will of their own too right? Also makes me wonder if Blackbeard has a "3 fates" Devil Fruit, or combine it with Ceberus Zoan fruit for 3 heads and voila. Thats how he can consume multiple fruits too, and his faces/teeth look different and he never sleeps becase he swaps between heads in human form but we haven't seen his true DF form yet.
I have this general rule when using real world mythology to theorise about One Piece, which is that Oda has to have directly referenced that mythology in the story of One Piece itself. That way, not only can you be sure Oda knows about it, but it also means that Oda potentially wants you to know that he knows about it, because it's a hint. So it's significant to me that nearly every major part of Norse mythology gets a reference in some point in the story. Kaido's "Ragnarok" attack. Moria's "Shadow's Asgard" attack. The "serpent soaked in blood" being a clear reference to Jormungandr and more generally the fact that we have Elbaf, an island themed entirely around Norse mythology, which Oda has been building up for nearly the entire span of the series. At this point, Norse mythology is definitely a major, major hint for how the rest of the overarching story of One Piece is gonna pan out.
Alright this might be a crazy stretch but Kaido used a move called Conquer of Three Worlds: Ragnaraku, so what if once Luffy conquers the three “worlds” as in the locations that the weapons are in Ragnarok begins, Poseidon is in Fishman Island which became Luffy’s territory, and u can argue he conquered Wano too by beating Kaido and Orochi, so next Luffy will go to Elbaf, Shanks’ territory and either win it in a Davy Back fight or just helping them like he always does thereby conquering it, this kinda hinges on Kaido’s knowledge of the Joyboy prophecy so it’s possible it inspired the name of his move
8:32 I don't know if you mention it, but while Luffy could be the one to destroy the Red Line, I feel it'd be more of a set up for Usopp. This is based off the the Usopp Mjnoir theory, it'd make sense for him to be the one to destroy/fight the red line. If I remember correctly in Norse Mythos, Thor dies after destroying Jörmungandr, so it'd also tie into the Usopp dying as a brave warrior theory.
GREAT VIDEO! I have a couple of facts and thoughts that build on this First of all, coincidentally (not) both FMI and Marigeoise (Asgard) and located 10.000 meters below and above the sea level, which makes the island and human (Midgard) at EXCATLY the middle between those 2 points. Also you said that once the redline is broken there will come fire and then floods. I think it is obvious Noa will be used to save the humans, why else would a giant ship be located in FMI where most everyone can swim? The real role of Poseidon is to control the seabeast to move the Noa and save the other races, not to destroy the redline!
I feel like I should point out that while Ragnarok does include the death of the world serpent, it also starts with a preamble of events. Including the death of Baldur, the start of a long winter, and the sun and moon are both swallowed up by wolves. All long before the death of Jormangandr. So Baldur a god of warmth, peace, and joy is slain by the trickery of Loki through Baldur's own blind brother Hod. The winter sets in as the great wolf Fenrir and Jormangandr awaken. The sun and moon are both swallowed by Hel's wolves, bringing darkness to the world. If Oda is going the route of Norse mythology and Luffy has reached his "peak" as sun god, he would be in several forms of trouble. We might even see the rare "Chrono Trigger" arc for our protagonist for those that know what I mean.
Something to note is that before Ragnorok is fimbelwintur, which is really cold, work Aokiji into that however you will. Also Baldur’s gotta die, dunno who that could be or what metaphor would match fhat
I would say Shanks is Baldur. Their descriptions match. Shanks last name is close to Baldurs mother’s name. Baldur was pretty cool with the giants it seem as even they wept when he died And he died due to Loki , whose name is used in one piece as the giants king or prince. Shanks equal (in my opinion) would be a mix of Tyr and Baldur
just realized that punching a hole through and destroying the red line is a very luffy-like idea, something so simple that luffy tends to come up with as a solution to even political/life-threatening problems
Really well put. None of it seems far fetched either and Oda will always meld and blend different ethos as the story goes. Exciting to see how much it matches up!
There is no way you making a Jormungandr theory(the thumbnail looks fire). Hidden you always make the best theories fr. I still remember your promise though. You pinky promised that thugshaker video better be out soon.
if its not mentioned in the video, you should look up the Cosmic Egg, its other name is the World Egg. it has imu and nika vibes as well as links several mythos like ancient egypt gods with the jormungandr
you should also look into the World Elephant, part of the hindu mythos. its a bit of a rabbit hole but you will find similarities to how yggdrasil is comparable to the redline/eve tree
Imagine if Oda tweeted today “GUYS! IM CANCELING MY MONTH BREAK!” Or even worse… “Guys, one piece will be going to a tri-monthly schedule similar to black clover”
So I have an interesting idea regarding Elbaf. We know the Giants see Joyboy/Nika as a god (the sun god), but the giants have more than one god, one of which is Elbaf, who is said to honourably judge their battles. My theory is that the "god" Elbaf was a member of Joyboy's crew, specifically his version of Usopp, who was one the "bravest warrior of the sea"
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I got a theory bout joyboy. He was oars 1, the orginal continent puller and in his battle with the new world gov. His crew got captured. He probably could have kept fighting but valued his crew more so made a deal with the world government to spare their lives. The deal was to split pangea and make the grand line and the one piece world we see today. When he was doing this lily helped him leave poneglyphs around and thats why the gorosei despise her so much. After his journey of leaving the poneglyphs he went to wano, the country that isnt governed by the world government and lived the rest of his life. The giant skull in onigashima is his and i feel like thats only fitting thats why kaido lived there, someone who wanted to be joyboy and luffy unlocked gear 5 there. Thats also why the robot apologized for being captured or defeated and why zuenesha wasnt killed and now instead is walking for 800 years because of a crime zuenesha committed
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Fry, his eyes squinting.
Today has been difficult thank you😭
My favouite kind of April Fools Day video is the one that isn't an April Fools Day video
Thank god I hate april fools so much. It makes the internet unusable for 2 days for no good reason. 99% of the jokes are not funny and just a waste of time.
@@Jankmastashut up, no one cares
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April fools day shouldn’t be even a thing cuz it’s the same day that Jesus got resurrected from the dead
Ugh, my ears hurts cuz he got all real facts wrong or he doesn't read. Called vikings pirates, and he also called Kaido a serpent. Oh my god, never recommend this channel again 😢
It still baffles me how comfy and amazingly animated your intro is
Thanks homie, giant shoutout to @Leejayanimation on twitter for animating the opening, he did an incredible job fr. Very talented artist
Fire intro 🔥
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I was the guy who asked if it was worth catching up on the manga and you said it absolutely was…. Fast forward to today, and I’m so grateful I caught up. Thanks man!
Yes bro One Piece gets better chapter by chapter
Oda said that he always wanted to draw a character with an eyepatch. He said when we see a character with an eyepatch, one piece will be near its end. Eyepatches are mainly attributed to pirates, but do you know who else wore an eyepatch? The Allfather, Odin.
The left eye symbolism in the show is already insane.
Finally, a flashback cover story of Oden introducing oden to Oðinn
I think rock is the eyepatch guy
Also in the third water thingy maybe Luffy sacks off an eyw
Reading this I laughed when I thought of Usopp accidentally poking Charlotte Puddings 3rd eye out, and her wearing an eye patch.
@@overlookers I'm Swedish and we call the god "Oden", so it would literally be Oden introducing oden to Oden
Holy s*t, I never thought of the connection between the Red Line and Jormungander, now with Elbaf being on the horizon is just makes sense. XD
Wild, it’s been talked about quite frequently for years.
Ragnarök includes the world sinking underwater? Can't you believe this video was released before vegapunks reveal stating the same thing, you must have been excited lol
Perhaps the WG is trying to delay the onset of Ragnarok
I know it was only briefly mentioned at 20:52, but this really reminded me of something I learned from one of GrandLineReviews recent videos on Blackbeard, on how he was supposed to originally be accompanied by three women.
Maybe these women where like the norns?
Could be why BB won't stop jammering about "fate" and "destiny" every five seconds...
Thank God he didn't. I wouldn't like to think that the godly Tengen Uzui reminds me of Blackbeard
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The comparison of Shanks and Odin got me thinking maybe the parellel exists somewhere else. We know he got that scar on his eye from Blackbeard, so to me it doesn't seem like it was a sacrifice he made. So what if him losing his arm while saving Luffy was that sacrifice? If you want to go even further, you could even say it wasn't an accident, he could've easily dealt with the Sea Beast, but chose to give away his arm for some other gain, just like how Odin gave up his eye for wisdom.
i am fully convinced shanks cut his own arm off before ever getting in the water. it was a yakuza apology to the underworld boss, and now he's the underworld boss.
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This is literally what happened in the story tho, shanks even said to wb (i think, or rayleigh) that he "bet" his arm on the new generation. We know this, there is no need to speculate.
That is kind of what I meant, the speculation part is the parallel with Odin and there possibly being some other gain besides betting on the future.@@thepixel024
I think he let his arm get cut off so luffy would feel in debt to him thus fulfilling his purpose with the Nika fruit
Shanks has that comparison with Tyr too, the norse god that dies just when ragnarok is about to start. Anyway, your theories are the best!keep up the good work man and a big shout-out from Brazil 🤙
True Tyr is the god of war and is said to have stopped wars instead of starting them. Who else has stopped wars shanks at marineford
Honestly Luffy is like Loki. Because Loki is the one to start Ragnarok. Loki also a children of Giant, with a size of a human, like Luffy ancestors is Joyboy the giant. The only thing that doesn't fit in is the world serpent should be on Loki side to fight Asgardian, not with them.
Came for the intro, stayed for the theory. Your videos and how you break down topics have gotten so much better, keep up the good work!
Just found your channel the other day and this is probably my new favorite op channel. Love the jazz vibes and creativity in analysis/theories
Congrats on another banger, Hidden!
You should check out the myth of Kvasir and the Mead of Poetry. I think that Kvasir is analogous to the technology that Vegapunk was working on with Punk Records and global connection to knowledge. This tech likely was present during the Void Century and could have been Binks Sake... I believe that drinking Binks Sake (Mead of Poetry) granted your dreams/wishes in the form of devil fruits... Eventually it gets stolen and hidden under a huge mountain... I could go on but I'll leave you to fill in the rest
new hidden vids are always the greatest way to relax and have fun lmao
By far one of my favorite theories made about this topic, I love Norse mythology and this really did a good job explaining it well done man!
Some coffee, and a new hidden video during the long break? Made my day better :)
Yoooo that part about imu standing in the garden with the tree of eve that’s grows devil fruits in the back had me getting hype af because that something I could 100% see and would absolutely love to see great video man keep em coming
Hidden the GOAT! Unreal level of research to make all these parallels. Sheesh!
I'm torn between "This video is well researched and slickly edited and you did a great job on it." and "The idea that Luffy is gonna wreck Mariejois isn't a fan theory, it's an inevitability."
Peak theory as always! I know you probably won’t see this and have your own theories in the works but I would love to see a video like the Koby one recently but with Sabo.
I think he is super important in the story but people are pushing him to the side like Koby. The fact that he is the first person to see the Gorosei forms shows how vital of a character he is in the final saga!
Keep up the great vids as we come to the end of Egghead!
Nordic person here, and I just wanted to say that the Jotnar being "a race of giants" is actually a common misconception. They were neither giants nor a different race to the Aesir/Vanir. They were distant cousins to them, but of a different tribe, again not a race, but a tribe. Many of them were even worshipped as gods themselves and they did have powers rivaling the gods, which is why they were so feared, as not only were they on par with the gods, but they outnumbered them greatly.
But most Jotnar were the same size as regular people, and only a few grew to gigantic proportions, they weren't born that way. This is because the Jotnar were beings of chaos so their appearence and sometimes size would reflect that. You could also look at them as gods of chaos, or anti gods.
But the vast majority of them were no taller then a regular man. It would be the same with calling all humans for dwarves IRL just because a few of us grow a bit shorter then the rest, but that doesn't mean all of us are dwarves. Same with the Jotnar, just because a few of them grew a little bigger then the rest, doesn't mean all of them were giants.
All giants in Norse Mythology were Jotnar, that is true, but not all Jotnar were giants.
It's funny that giants have become synonomis (or however you spell that word) with Norse Mythology when there aren't actually any giants aside from maybe 2-3 here and there, and Greek Mythology actually have more of them. Jotnar and giants are two seperate things. Calling a Jotunn a giant is the same as calling a fairy for a dragon just because both have wings.
This seems super connected, thank you for pointing this out Hidden, you got great theories and this is for sure one of my favorites, it’s so cool that One Piece is so deep like this. W
The intro is so melancholy and calming - elbaf is the most anticipated arc by far just like this video haha - brilliant analysis per usual.
I don’t read, watch or even follow one piece. But I somehow was introduced to the mythos and I’ve looked into it a bunch and found it fascinating. Came across your videos awhile ago and I’ve gotta say, you’ve convinced me! Amazing production and analysis.
Excellent theory! I feel like I need to brush up on my Norse mythology and listen to the Poetic Edda before this break is over, you never know what Oda will pull out.
@10:20 could be why crocodile wanted pluton, maybe he already knows what’s its meant for, I think he was a slave as a child correct? So revenge against the dragons
what a video, what a intro, what a story telling, warraaaaa W channel. How come you havent got recognitions that you deserve yet???!!
Your theory videos are too GOATED. Amazing 🔥🔥🔥
Actually, just a thought... Luffy's generals all relate to the same thing as the ancient weapons.
Sanji's mom is Sora - sky - Uranus
Zoro's mom is Tera - earth - Pluton
Jinbe is the first son of the sea - Poseidon
And it makes sense for Zoro and Jinbe to commandeer Pluton and Poseidon. Zoro is from the land of Wano, and Wano is where Pluton hides. Jinbe knows Shirahoshi personally and would be the best to work with her undersea.
That leaves Sanji to commander Uranus. But from that thread, would Uranus be in the North Blue? Or with Germa? (after listening, eta: so Elbaf, how does that connect to Sanji though?)
Been taking a break from watching one piece content. But I’m so happy to be coming back and seeing that your videos are doing so well. I remember watching the first ones years ago and knowing that you’d be able to make it.
“Dickhead City”
That completely caught me off guard, I snorted my coffee
7:10 absolutely wild take
I will not stand for Ragnarok slander other than that great video
videos always a vibe
Babe don't make dinner, Hidden cooked again 🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
I only got into One Piece recently and I still can't get over how long Elbaf has been set up for. Oda has the patience of a saint to save it for this long.
The word you're looking for is money, not patience.
As I grew up as a young little Swede, I read Vicke Viking. He was a young viking who solved problems using clever ideas and tricks.
I never made the leap to read the ridiculous back-catalog of OP, but I've been following the story from a certain point. Your theories are some of the best, for sure (and your channel's theme is perfect "chill"). I'm really looking forward to the answers that seem only just around the corner now. I'm sure the traditions of the Giants include a LOT of good lore. After all, Elbaf | fablE - what fable? Oh, only the very tale that the world government has wanted to keep very quiet for generations.
Vegapunk, Ohara, etc knew the truth of the past, but only the Giants might know both the past AND what is fated to happen in the future (assuming it's not just a Norse naming scheme.. but it's Oda, so there will be some actual overlap, and it won't be just surface-deep).
You've earned my subscription. Keep doing what you do :)
Hidden! You truly are The Greatest Man Ever Made!
bro might as well change his bar into a hibachi bc we’re just here to watch this man cook atp 🤦🏽♂️
Another thing to note is how Arlong Park looks VERY similar to the original Marineford HQ design.
Almost like a metaphor about how cyclical things can get without agents of change like Luffy around to make sure power doesn't get too corrupt. Left unchecked, the roles simply reversed, and humans became the new fish-men and mermaids, while the fish-men became the new celestial dragons and world govt.
"Justice" has no face, only a goal. Freedom, however, does have a face. And a will. And a name. And it all ties into Luffy, the Will of D, Nika, and Elbaph.
First of all I absolutely love your intros can tell a lot of work was put into it and that was a nice Matt pat nod at the end
I can't believe I still didn't do IMU=YMIR after already 270 versions of that dude lmao.
Great idea, and makes sense, so I'll do at least one.
Thanks for sharing those ideas.
-The Imu Guy
Really enjoyed the piece at the end talking about Ymir being taken down by Oden. Made me think of how much Luffy paralleled Oden in Wano. That plus the three brothers being Will, Wisdom and Spirit with Luffy carrying everyone's will, Sabo being wise beyond his years when he was young and Ace... being there in spirit...
So good right!
I like the theory. Regarding "Urdabrunnr", I think Oda initially might have wanted to make Skypiea One Piece's "Urdabrunnr". As we know, Oda himself has said that he initially didnt think One Piece would go as long as it does, so I think when he got to Skypiea he had already made some parallels to Urdabrunnr but then decided to keep the show going and changed the skript a little.
Some parallels:
-highest layer = in the sky
-3 maidens live at the well = the three Skypiean races: Birkans, Shandians and Skypieans
-maidens that peer into the future = the Mantora that the priests of Skypiea as well as the little girl from the Shandians possessed, which we know would call just an advanced form of observation haki. Maybe the little girl could have played an even more important role in a parallel universe?
-runes = well there was one porneglyph there I suppose but probably that was already partly changed.
My guess is in a more shortened version One Piece would have still visited Elbaf as one of the last islands, since that was mentioned before Skypiea but maybe there wouldnt have been a Wano Kuni or even maybe even no Zou (if the need of road porneglyphs hadnt been a thing and since Zou was heavily intertwined with Wano). So like, after Skypiea where they had acquired knowledge of the first ancient weapon Uranus, they would continue to learn about Pluton on Water 7 and about Poseidon on Fishman Island but after Fishman they could have more or less already set sails to Elbaf to collect all 3 ancient weapons and destroy the red line. But either way, since One Piece was such a success and there was no need to finish it fast we got to see far more of the One Piece world and a potentially altered in which the strawhats learned about the ancient weapons. Thats just my theory... to your theory LOL.
Also fun fact: In the German intro of the Skypiea arc ("Übers Meer) they also said that there is a "valuable treasure above the skies and only the one who acquires it can become king of the pirates", although in the original Japanese version (Bon Voyage) there is no mention of that so they took some translation liberty in it (in the original they just say "a treasure at the end of the sea and the one that claims it will be king of the pirates" which could just as well mean laugh tale).
Also thats why I dont think we will get to see any return of Urouge, as some had theorized since he is so far pretty much the only supernova that didnt have any friendly or hostile relation to Luffy and his crew. (or maybe they eventually acquire Uranus and place it on Skypiea with the help of Urouge to place it "in the sky"??? similarly to how you said, that the redline will be destroyed from above, below and at sea level idk)
Also destroying the red line would create a place where every ocean on Earth combines into one... otherwise know as the ALL BLUE.
i don’t usually watch anymore theory videos but when i see hidden island posted i always gotta save it for later
Calling GOW Ragnorok disappointing is a crazy take
Yeah lol, ragnarok was fucking awesome
First 3 GOW are better, then again I haven’t played any of the new ones since it looks more like a movie.
@@XanVicious the new ones are better in terms of story
@@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 I’ll have to give them a shot then, thanks.
@@my.pfp.say.it.all.5u5 God of War 3 clears, unfortunately.
Just stumbled upon your channel and can I tell you, from the calming intro to the way you put your video together the information and the outcome man I had to subscribe, great job man
I feel like your spot on. Don't forget in fishman island arc, the fishman fortuneteller foresaw Luffy destroying fishman island and she said she's never been wrong. That's why there originally scared of straw hats. Luffy will def liberate fishman island by destroying it.
It still baffles me people still hate on One Piece even though this much detail has gone into every page, every manga panel. Insane
Awesome video I love viking lore as well!
Dang, this is a really compelling theory. I still can’t believe we’ll probably end up on elbaf this arc. Something else that goes with this theory that’s interesting is that ragnarok is a cycle. Given that we know that the lunarians were the red lines previous inhabitants, I wouldn’t be suprised if ragnorok has played out before and the difference this time will be breaking the cycle of history.
This theory makes me wonder if joyboy was attempting to do the same with the ancient weapons, and was either betrayed my Imu or they were never fighting together but imu ended up taking over the redline after joyboy drove out the lunarians. If either is the case, I’m sure Blackbeard will attempt to do the same and then luffy will succeed where joyboy failed especially given him trying to get in good with the world government. But maybe that’s just my hope that Blackbeard will be the final antagonist lol. Anyway, great vid as always!
I've been intrigued by Sisyphys the last couple weeks, the man cursed to forever roll a boulder up a mountain only to restart at the bottom each day.
Makes me kind of wonder if other Nika Fruit users made it far on the Grand Line and if maybe one did awaken near wherever the Iron Oas was being stored 200 years ago. It didn't awaken when Luffy got Gear 5 on Wano a week or two sail away, so maybe Zunesha couldn't hear the time it awakened 200 years ago before that Joyboy was killed and the fruit went to a new user. Also how the WG got it +/- 13 years ago, they finally got the user to Impel Down or something and had the only fruit for a long distance upstairs in the guard house until it flipped into a new fruit.
I also gotta say I still think Blackbeard is the final antagonist, seems like Luffy and Blackbeard will fight for the power vacuum that is about to appear in the world. Plus there is a part of me that thinks Blackbeard needs to WG to tell him where the Man Marked by Flames is for the Final Poneglyph which is why Catarina touching Saturn matters, and it also matters that the last time we saw Leffitte was when they asked a recently recruited Kuzan who the Man Marked by Flames is.(who I think is the Warlord Ace beat before Luffy took off, Ace would have burnt that Warlord correct?)
Vinland saga’s Mangaka, Makoto Yukimura was also inspired by Vicke the viking
You present your theories in a manner better than some older One Piece Theory channels! Kudoos!
I hope this channel blows up off this post! Never had you cross my screen but glad I found it, great vibe to your video and amazing intro/editing. Keep going man! You’re onto something great
Hidden, You're the goat. You're one of the EXTREMELY few who actually gets how Oda works.
I've watched so many videos and theories, this is one of the very few times that a theory sounds exactly like how Oda thinks and makes OP.
I love Par but come on... Vander Decken being a mushroom?
This video is peak. Ty Hidden!
10:56 shit hits hard when you realize the five elders are also named after planets and the ancient weapons are also named after them, Poseidon's roman name is Neptune but we already have it as the king's name.
Elbaf is about to be the biggest lore drop in One Piece history
That intro is straight heat.
I was really worried for a split second that this was an april fools joke and then I immediately felt relief when I looked at your pinned comment. "Oh thank god, because I had been craving an Elbaf vid"
I love the intro. Thats sublime. ❤
Man, you were cooking with this one Hidden! A lot of this makes too much sense!
7:35 this was 2 months before we learned the world was flooded after a battle with joyboy against the alliance of 20 kingdoms (the gods) maybe has some correlation?
Great theory. I think the Red Line theory is 100% right. I’m curious as to how exactly it was created though. So much potential there. Also excited to see how much of this lines up with whatever we get in the void century reveal. Nice job and high quality though!
24:19 BingoBongo doesn't sound far fetched anymore.
The hidden island dropped another Ramadan feast
الله اكبر
Just subscribed and this is my first video of yours. This is really cool 😎
I like how you laid out your theory man, good video. Especially the Imu tie in to Ymir.
What do we think happened to the Egg Roger had? Because there is a myth in Slavic mythology about the Buyan Bird protecting a giant tree, maybe the Adam tree on Elbaf?
The 3 Fates that you said sit at the top of Yggdrasil at a well also appear in Greek Mythology, and lately I've been really thinking about the 3 times the Iron Oars seems to have awoken 800/200/now. Could we describe the challenge of Luffy(really the Nika Fruit) reaching Laugh Tale at the end of the Grand Line like a climbing a mountain? Because for some reason the myth of Sisyphys pushing a boulder up the mountain day after day only to start again at the bottom has become very intriging to me. Especailly after we found out the fruit hadn't been captured in 800 years by the WG until about 13 years ago right? So what if it kept getting eaten by different users who all tried to make it to Laugh Tale toeither finish what was started or avenge the original Joyboy, because Zoan fruits can carry some will of their own too right?
Also makes me wonder if Blackbeard has a "3 fates" Devil Fruit, or combine it with Ceberus Zoan fruit for 3 heads and voila. Thats how he can consume multiple fruits too, and his faces/teeth look different and he never sleeps becase he swaps between heads in human form but we haven't seen his true DF form yet.
I have this general rule when using real world mythology to theorise about One Piece, which is that Oda has to have directly referenced that mythology in the story of One Piece itself. That way, not only can you be sure Oda knows about it, but it also means that Oda potentially wants you to know that he knows about it, because it's a hint.
So it's significant to me that nearly every major part of Norse mythology gets a reference in some point in the story. Kaido's "Ragnarok" attack. Moria's "Shadow's Asgard" attack. The "serpent soaked in blood" being a clear reference to Jormungandr and more generally the fact that we have Elbaf, an island themed entirely around Norse mythology, which Oda has been building up for nearly the entire span of the series. At this point, Norse mythology is definitely a major, major hint for how the rest of the overarching story of One Piece is gonna pan out.
Zoom out, think bigger
Alright this might be a crazy stretch but Kaido used a move called Conquer of Three Worlds: Ragnaraku, so what if once Luffy conquers the three “worlds” as in the locations that the weapons are in Ragnarok begins, Poseidon is in Fishman Island which became Luffy’s territory, and u can argue he conquered Wano too by beating Kaido and Orochi, so next Luffy will go to Elbaf, Shanks’ territory and either win it in a Davy Back fight or just helping them like he always does thereby conquering it, this kinda hinges on Kaido’s knowledge of the Joyboy prophecy so it’s possible it inspired the name of his move
This is one of the greatest one piece theories I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot!
8:32 I don't know if you mention it, but while Luffy could be the one to destroy the Red Line, I feel it'd be more of a set up for Usopp. This is based off the the Usopp Mjnoir theory, it'd make sense for him to be the one to destroy/fight the red line. If I remember correctly in Norse Mythos, Thor dies after destroying Jörmungandr, so it'd also tie into the Usopp dying as a brave warrior theory.
I love the parallel you draw between Arlong Park and Mary Geoise
Absolutely love the vibes that these videos have.
Man , your music in your latest videos were top vibes
Excellent choice
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This is the best One Piece channel in YT ever!
That jazz music from intro is so soothing calm
GREAT VIDEO!
I have a couple of facts and thoughts that build on this
First of all, coincidentally (not) both FMI and Marigeoise (Asgard) and located 10.000 meters below and above the sea level, which makes the island and human (Midgard) at EXCATLY the middle between those 2 points.
Also you said that once the redline is broken there will come fire and then floods. I think it is obvious Noa will be used to save the humans, why else would a giant ship be located in FMI where most everyone can swim? The real role of Poseidon is to control the seabeast to move the Noa and save the other races, not to destroy the redline!
I feel like I should point out that while Ragnarok does include the death of the world serpent, it also starts with a preamble of events. Including the death of Baldur, the start of a long winter, and the sun and moon are both swallowed up by wolves. All long before the death of Jormangandr. So Baldur a god of warmth, peace, and joy is slain by the trickery of Loki through Baldur's own blind brother Hod. The winter sets in as the great wolf Fenrir and Jormangandr awaken. The sun and moon are both swallowed by Hel's wolves, bringing darkness to the world. If Oda is going the route of Norse mythology and Luffy has reached his "peak" as sun god, he would be in several forms of trouble. We might even see the rare "Chrono Trigger" arc for our protagonist for those that know what I mean.
Something to note is that before Ragnorok is fimbelwintur, which is really cold, work Aokiji into that however you will.
Also Baldur’s gotta die, dunno who that could be or what metaphor would match fhat
Luffy died fighting kaido? 🤔
@@bossdozz Ohh, that's a real possibility!
I would say Shanks is Baldur. Their descriptions match. Shanks last name is close to Baldurs mother’s name.
Baldur was pretty cool with the giants it seem as even they wept when he died
And he died due to Loki , whose name is used in one piece as the giants king or prince.
Shanks equal (in my opinion) would be a mix of Tyr and Baldur
just realized that punching a hole through and destroying the red line is a very luffy-like idea, something so simple that luffy tends to come up with as a solution to even political/life-threatening problems
Really well put. None of it seems far fetched either and Oda will always meld and blend different ethos as the story goes. Exciting to see how much it matches up!
There is no way you making a Jormungandr theory(the thumbnail looks fire). Hidden you always make the best theories fr. I still remember your promise though. You pinky promised that thugshaker video better be out soon.
Hidden dropping a new banger to keep my sanity in check during this long break
Commenting for visibility 🙌🏽 amazing video as always
That opening music goes unspeakably hard oh my goddd. ❤❤❤ liked, loved, subscribed and joined
hi! I'm new here and I have to say: BEST INTRO EVER !!!!
16:06 I think the treasure doffy was talking about could be the devil fruit tree, since he was distributing smile
if its not mentioned in the video, you should look up the Cosmic Egg, its other name is the World Egg. it has imu and nika vibes as well as links several mythos like ancient egypt gods with the jormungandr
you should also look into the World Elephant, part of the hindu mythos. its a bit of a rabbit hole but you will find similarities to how yggdrasil is comparable to the redline/eve tree
Awesome theory and great vid. Literally everything you said makes sense :D
Wow, today is my first day on vacation and what could make it even better than the new Hoddens video😊
This makes so much sense it's eerie bro
always keep the intro i love it so much ❤ amazing vid
Imagine if Oda tweeted today “GUYS! IM CANCELING MY MONTH BREAK!”
Or even worse… “Guys, one piece will be going to a tri-monthly schedule similar to black clover”
yo this intro was fire. classy af
This has to be my favorite theory of all time
I dreaded this to be an April fools video
So I have an interesting idea regarding Elbaf. We know the Giants see Joyboy/Nika as a god (the sun god), but the giants have more than one god, one of which is Elbaf, who is said to honourably judge their battles. My theory is that the "god" Elbaf was a member of Joyboy's crew, specifically his version of Usopp, who was one the "bravest warrior of the sea"