I knew I was onto something when I bought my ‘22 brand new. I knew Toyota was gonna become the Japanese Chevy and Nissan would take the top spot with this truck
I am a Silverado owner. On my third Chevy truck. My 1996 Silverado 2500 was a great truck until it was totaled in an accident. The best truck I owned was the 02 Avalanche that I had for 17 years in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. But my 2014 is rusting out big time. Just test drove two used Nissan Frontiers, a 2021 and a 2023, and both drove really great. Being retired and on a fixed income, I need reliability as the 14 Silverado has 150,000 and is basically falling apart mechanically and because of rust. The Frontier is a lot less expensive than used Tacomas are. The only Tacomas I can afford are the 2-wheel drive one with the smaller cab. I need 4x4! As for the 2025 Nissan, I probably can’t afford a new one, but the changes in the body really don’t matter. I don’t need a pretty pavement princess truck, I just need one that will stand up to winter conditions and being used like a truck. Fancy wheel packages are useless. Give me basic and durable!
Sad that GM falls Apart that soon. You might like to see the Million Mile Frontier on TFL truck channel. A Million work miles in Chicago! I bought a used Nissan Hardbody with 204,000 miles, and apparently it was just getting started. 428,000 now. Using it most every day. Most work on it has been standard maintenance.
Nissan gets judged very harshly comparing to the other manufacturers. They do nothing they get criticized, they do something they get criticized. Overall I think the refresh looks really good. More plastics means less rock chips, only thing I would say they messed up on was the placement of the frontier badging on the dash. Should have been smaller and off to the side. That’s it, imma a mechanic and I am telling you this drivetrain will be the GOAT 20 years from now when turbos are failing left right and center on the other. Can’t wait to buy a 2025 used with 10k miles for 38-39k
Unless you need a 6 foot bed in a Pro trim, there is very little changes in the 2025 that would justify it over a 2024 that given the deals that can be found and a lower MSRP. A 2025 is going to cost $5-7k more than a 2024 can be had for right now.
Front is better on 2024, the piece they added on the tailgate wasn’t necessary. The 2024 is cleaner looking. All other changes to 2025 are good. I’d buy the 2025.
There even newer eliminators that do not require a separate power lead and cost ~$35 a nd I am sure more designs will be coming since start/stop is relatively new with Nissan
Thanks Nissan for sticking with the V6! I have the 2024 model and never use the Auto Stop feature and am getting 22 mpg in and around town.... Suck it EPA....
Suck it EPA🎉🎉🎉❤😅❤😅❤😂😅😂😂 LOVE IT! IF THE biden administration didn't wage war on fossil fule there wouldn't be an issue! Also we need to get rid of Ethanolo, stop hurting the farmers I say!
Correct. The small displacement turbo engines almost universally used now is designed for one thing and one thing only: To meet the ridiculously stringent EPA CAFA fuel economy regulations by NOT having the turbo kick-in on the test cycle. But in the real-world driving, the turbo is kicking in all the time, sucking fuel worse than a comparably powered NA engine. Doesn't matter. It was designed to pass the test. But at least you get a more expensive, complex and less reliable engine with much worse driving dynamics that a NA engine. That's liberal government bureaucrats at work for us.
There have been comparisons (TFL) between the Nissan V6 and all the other turbo models and in a normal driving loop, the V6 does get lower fuel economy as would be expected. But it is only ~2 mpg less and that is acceptable to me. I own a 2024 Pro-X
Awesome 👍 a real naturally aspirated V6. Love it, thank you very much Nissan for not giving in to the crappy EPA. Now we have a real truck that is reliable and better than other brands.👍🇨🇦👍
2024 Frontier . Very smooth 9 speed auto transmission. 6 cylinder very smooth good on gas.Auto start and stop can be turned off on the dash.Not an issue.Very well put together.Good pricing.
@@chrisheiderscheit7077 Not sure what that means. Towing more than the manufacturer recommends can cause overheating and reduced longevity. Since all trailers over 2k lbs are required to have brakes, it should not effect braking and pulling too heavy a load will reduce your top speed, so I don't see where it could cause an accident. We are talking about 500 lbs here and I have never heard of an insurance company immediately coming to the scene of an accident and weighing a trailer and vehicle contents to determine if GVWR was exceeded. My point is simply that 2022-2024 have been underrated by 500 lbs. Towing capacity is affected by outside temperature and elevation. The real limit on towing capacity is tongue weight and oil/trans temps.
I never thought I'd consider a Nissan but sticking with a normally aspirated v6 and now a 6' bed on the Nismo has it on my list in place of the chevy and ford that have left those real truck traits behind. I just hope they have updated the transmission for reliability.
I agree but no matter what you choose there will be some tech. I was so happy to see the Frontier with a mechanical foot e-brake. No motors to go bad and no special procedure to unlock e-brake when replacing pads.
Lots of Tacoma owners are now looking at, and buying, Frontiers. I've owned Toyota trucks all my adult life but I won't buy that turbo 4. I need my trucks to last.
Remember, if you don’t like the auto stop start feature, then take a guitar pic or something similar and wedged in between the button and make sure the button stays pushed in all the time. You’ll never need to worry about it shutting off again.
Always thought that was one of the dumbest auto industry trends ever. Should only be an option to turn on if you’re stuck in hour traffic. It sounds so dumb at a light hearing someone’s engine fire up every stop lol
2016 to 2019 was the peek FRONTIER. Fuel Efficiency improvements have been insignificant. Styling is not really improvement. I like the manual transmission option, switch gear and thank God for the integrated satellite navigation screen. Subwoofer under front passenger seat made deep rich sounds. All of these trucks are used commercially in construction sites or security patrols, idling 4 to 6 hours per day so a smaller engine option would make sense. Maybe three litres or so producing around 200 horsepower/torque getting 20/30mpg.
I wouldn’t say they’re not bowing if it’s only a minor refresh with the same powertrain. Not that refreshes are bad. But I’m interested what they’re going to do for a new powertrain when the time actually comes. With that said, I actually love how it looks. I think it looks badass. And the 6ft bed is a good bonus. I’m super curious with pricing . Hopefully, with this refresh prices don’t go up since it’s not an actual powertrain upgrade. Also Nissan needs to be managed better . They can’t keep Losing 97% net profits if they want to continue going forward with the Frontier and overall.
@@user-JBT 100% agree with you the frontier is the best midsize truck on the market in 2024 The Tacoma lost the number one spot whenever they switch to a turbo
@@cnn787-i9e Thanks, but I'm a fairly smart guy and that's one reason I went with Jeep, to NOT be in the dealer's Service Dept much (contrary to your imaginations). In reality, Mr. Incredibly Clueless (to be kind), I only go in for my regular servicing: Oil/filter change & tire rotation (so far)...about ever 7 months or so for just over 3 years now. Next such servicing due in 2-3 months I guess (according to my Oil Life monitor as I use that vs. a set mileage number on my odometer). Still, you might want to educate yourself about the Jeeps of today -- UNLESS you're the kind of guy that loves to parrot what other also clueless people say about Jeep and keep making lame criticisms (which you just did) about issues that really don't exist anymore. And unlike Ford, Toyota and Mazda lately, NO Recalls or even TSBs issued on my Gladiator. Not even for airbags. Amazing, but no surprise really for those who know better. The fact is the current Jeeps (meaning the "classic-looking" ones, the Wrangler JLs 2018+ and Gladiator JTs 2020+) are the best Jeeps have even been. In fact, if I had to buy a new (I don't buy used) vehicle tomorrow, I'd get another Gladiator (Rubicon) w/o any hesitation whatsoever. Just tell me where to sign. ;-) "Jeep Wave" -- BR
Trucks looks awesome! Glad they kept the V6. Glad they have a 6 foot bed option. Rear Locker? Front Locker? Ground Clearance? Payload? Better departure and approach angles?? This is what matters most to so many that want to go out on overlanding/camping/off-road adventures! Not just for going to Home Depot or Costco!
Nismo has aftermarket bumpers as well as upgraded billstien shocks with reservoirs light weight alloy wheels & a nice leveling/lift kit you can add at dealership & still spend less$ than most competitors top tier in the same class & believe me the suspension & wheels alone really improve ride & the steel bumpers are tough as well also you'll have a real nice personalized truck that most others wont have
I would like one but i can not afford it due to the inflation on other necessity items. Stil thought i like the exterior better than the tacoma. Most likely will get a used 2023 pro 4x.
The main reason why manufacturers are doing away with manual transmissions is because of all of the mandatory safety systems. Like lane keep assist, and frontal collision avoidance, and so forth. They have to rely on autonomous brake and transmission response to work properly. Systems that would be unattainable with a manual transmission.
I would argue a manual is one of the best safety features in a vehicle. It forces one to drive, and not passively-drive, relying on all the nanny tech as one multi-tasks on their phone or tries to operate all the poorly configured info-tech screens.
Manuals are disappearing simply because people are NOT buying them. If there was a demand then manufacturers would offer then. They are the best theft deterrent as so few today know how to drive one.
I've been a Toyota guy all my life. But gotta say, if i was in the market for this size truck, I'd choose it over a the Tacoma hands down, no questions asked. I'm still in a 2006 DC 2wd Tundra until it dies.
I’m glad to hear they won’t bow down to the EPA! So now, they should go ahead and put the manual transmission back in the Frontier. It would be a no-brainer Best Buy if it had a 6 speed manual! I’m told the automatics are better for EPA ratings. Why do manufacturers put manual transmissions in their cars everywhere else in the world but not North America?
@@iiiiii7680Who is we? I use my two manuals daily. My Hardbody trans is 37 years old and still acts young. These are jewels. A FEW of us keep a vehicle instead of always trading in, and those new automatics are a fortune to fix. What is so hard about shifting anyway? A 6 speed in the Frontier would be the best simple, analog truck. NO computer running the transmission just because lazy Americans don't want to shift gears.
@@jeanclaude7018 Im saying "we" as in people in north america. I personally enjoy driving a manual but 90%+ of people in the north american region do not want a manual
@@iiiiii7680 got it. Yes, lazy Americans love the luxuries, and don't mind paying for them, either by constant trade-ins, or the $6000 bill when that nice slushbox gives up the ghost. They're too complex to rebuild yourself like I once could with the old autos. My 37 year old manual transmission has spoiled me, because I know a transmission can outlast the truck without that horrible expense. Oh, and I can push start if the battery or starter croak in Timbuk 3.
@@user-xc7pu7kb2v I don’t believe there’s a way unfortunately but you have a great point because those features are not cheap. Hopefully there’s not much of a price increase.
All the new extra options were on the Nissan Maxima. Had a 16 & a 23. Some of those options were annoying. They just didn't belong on a truck. Traded in the 23 Maxima for a 24 Pro x-4. Simpler and the v6 is great.
All of these updates are great, I've been eyeballing the Frontier for a few years. Was hoping 2025 was gonna be it. But sounds like the cameras have yet to be updated.
What good is a V6 with no payload? The #1 reason I would never buy this truck is the payload rating. A loaded Pro4X short bed barely has 1000 pounds of payload which is pathetic, and the new long bed P4X will be much lower than that. Calm down, Nissan isn't bucking the EPA. They're keeping the V6 because they can't afford to develop a new engine. Nissan has been on the brink of bankruptcy for years.
I hate it also as it is on my 2024 Pro-x. But there are multiple ways to defeat it and you still get all the bennies (HD starter, HD battery, HD heating/cooling system).
I have 2024 SV 4x4 Long Bed with the convenience and technology packages, spray in bed liner with the utili-track system. What a nice truck. My second Frontier. I would have bought the Pro 4X, but it only came with a short bed. Show stopper for me. Interesting, Nissan did a refresh for 2025. Nissan did next to nothing on the Gen 2 Frontier your years. I think they smell blood in the water because of the issues Toyota is having with their Tundra's and buyers not thrilled with the 4-banger in the Tacoma.
I’m admittedly a Toyota fanboy. Early small Toyota truck before they branded them Tacoma, two Gen 1 Tundras, and currently a 3rd Gen 2017 Tacoma. But for the first time in my adult life I would look long and hard at the Nissan Frontier if I was ever in the market for a new truck.
I like the front end on the 2024 model. However, I'm going to wait for the 2025 model. I want the 6-foot bed and the increased towing capacity. Also, the cameras on the older models are terrible.
I'm curious does the 6-ft bed one have the option with the big screen with wireless Android Auto cuz if there's an option for that one that rather get that one
Yeah hands down the current truck looks better, it's the best looking out there and the refresh detracts from that. That big black peice across the tailgate, WTF!! :-(. Six foot bed now on Pro4x is a great addition. If I bought the '25 I would have to buy a black one to tone down that crap they stuck on it.
I had a 2004 Nissan Frontier with a 4cyl power plant. I was plenty of pep for me and it got okay gas mileage. This 6cyl for the size of truck is just stupid.
Of the 4..Colorado, Tacoma, Frontier and Ranger, I love the v6. Most assume Toyota and then Nissan are the trucks to get. Unfortunately, the Nissan felt dated, and the steering felt heavy and was terrible in the city or just trying to park. Underway It was louder and not nearly as comfortable as the Colorado or Ranger. The V6 is reliable but lacked that punch of the turbo but I realize that's the trade off . Then we got to the interiors and the seats, materials, ergonomics, tech were the best in the Ranger and the size was larger than the rest especially in the rear with the Frontier being the smallest. Towing and payload are important and all 4 would work but again the Ford did excellent and the size of the This is a truck that I am buying for a long-term employee and close friend and the reliability and price point on the Nissan was the best by about 1500.00 along with lower financing. I ended up with a 2wd Ranger XLT w sport package, tech and towing 500.00 under invoice. It just felt the best overall in this tight segment and I was sure I was going to get the Toyota or Nissan.
If only there is a manual transmission option for frontier i would go for it, i am in the market right now looking at tacoma because of the 6 speed manual they have but i dont like its engine
It is a truck not a playstation. People demand so much tech on a vehicle that has nothing to do with getting from point A to B and then complain about the price.
I wish all manufacturers of midsized trucks kept their V6 while Toyota might have the most reliable turbo 4 eventually I would prefer a naturally aspirated V6 for reliability. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
No port fuel injection. Stay clear. Clear of carbon build i mean. If they included a Toyota-like D-4S injection system I would buy one - a second one. The power is awesome even at high altitude like Flagstaff.
I'm likely to buy a new Frontier in a year or so. I could care less if it's the current body style or the latest. Just want a midsized truck with a 6 cyl.
Ya that's not how it works!! Nissan doesn't have to meet the same EPA standards cause they don't sell nearly as many trucks. Nobody's buying the Titan so the overall emission numbers are low compared to the big 3.
For the last three years Ive been all Tacoma but had to wait until this year to get a Taco. But now that Toyota decided to go four cylinder in the new Taco’s, Im going with the Frontier in a couple months. Toyota can go suck an egg.
I hate those screens and all the worthless 'safety features' like the v6, looks cheap with the plastic. probably has a cvt so that would be a deal breaker. same for stop start gimmick
The Peterbilt front truck look is getting outdated, but they are all still doing it. The Nissans would look better with body color grilles. The Tundra front end gives me seizures.
Of course I’d say I like the 2023 model/style better. Thank god I really do(relieved actually). Overpaid for mine, I was thinking. Now not as much. Definitely not a fan of the CVT transmission, so thought I’d hear something about that with the 2025-either way. (Can’t figure out how to get mine out of eco drive, though, so I think that’s most of the problem.) Surprised (pissed) not more owners complained about that when I was scanning the internet for reviews. And, yes, dealerships: A different breed.
@@mikekolb238 You sure? 😂 I think you’re wrong there, friend. And as a newly retired English teacher, I promise you I’ve read a few books. Including the poorly designed Frontier manual. I’ve got mine in eco drive right now and it runs like a slug. Can’t figure out how to switch out of it. Scoured through the manual, and the Internet. Can you offer some more neighborly advice?
@@mikekolb238 Dang, you are right!!! Just back from the dealership. I’ve been looking at so much stuff online and UA-cam I’ve blown circuits. And, pretty sure wrong again about the eco drive. Doesn’t seem to have that either. Never mind.🥳Now, to get back to lying on the couch… maybe some fishing. 👴🏻🤙🏼
Regular cab 2 door. 6 foot bed. Twin turbo! Ok, maybe not gunna happen. The 6 foot bed would be great, could fit my fishing poles in there. Like the wheels, the front end looks good. More plastic, but most painted fronts ends suffer the most stone chips. I like the black on the tailgate, but wasn't really needed. A decal would have been better than the obtrusive plastic thing that sticks out and will just collect salt and dust behind it. A place for corrosion to start and ha e that annoying "seepage" of crap running down the everytime it rains or when you wash it. Now, I hope they don't increase the price anymore. Vehicles are nuts! If I could get zero interest or a REALLY low rate for maybe 60 months, I just might be in. Just no way in hell am I forking out 7 or 800 a month for a vehicle.
I knew I was onto something when I bought my ‘22 brand new. I knew Toyota was gonna become the Japanese Chevy and Nissan would take the top spot with this truck
I am a Silverado owner. On my third Chevy truck. My 1996 Silverado 2500 was a great truck until it was totaled in an accident. The best truck I owned was the 02 Avalanche that I had for 17 years in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. But my 2014 is rusting out big time. Just test drove two used Nissan Frontiers, a 2021 and a 2023, and both drove really great. Being retired and on a fixed income, I need reliability as the 14 Silverado has 150,000 and is basically falling apart mechanically and because of rust. The Frontier is a lot less expensive than used Tacomas are. The only Tacomas I can afford are the 2-wheel drive one with the smaller cab. I need 4x4! As for the 2025 Nissan, I probably can’t afford a new one, but the changes in the body really don’t matter. I don’t need a pretty pavement princess truck, I just need one that will stand up to winter conditions and being used like a truck. Fancy wheel packages are useless. Give me basic and durable!
Silverado? Isn't there lawsuits for your engine and transmission needing to be replaced?
Sad that GM falls Apart that soon. You might like to see the Million Mile Frontier on TFL truck channel. A Million work miles in Chicago!
I bought a used Nissan Hardbody with 204,000 miles, and apparently it was just getting started. 428,000 now. Using it most every day. Most work on it has been standard maintenance.
Nissan gets judged very harshly comparing to the other manufacturers. They do nothing they get criticized, they do something they get criticized. Overall I think the refresh looks really good. More plastics means less rock chips, only thing I would say they messed up on was the placement of the frontier badging on the dash. Should have been smaller and off to the side. That’s it, imma a mechanic and I am telling you this drivetrain will be the GOAT 20 years from now when turbos are failing left right and center on the other. Can’t wait to buy a 2025 used with 10k miles for 38-39k
Thank you Nissan for keeping the V6
Most of the Nissan bashers are those who don't buy them, but keep recycling rumors from Toyota fanboys.
Nissan’s trucks are different it’s their cars and crossovers that are garbage and 99% of that is due to three letters: CVT!
Unless you need a 6 foot bed in a Pro trim, there is very little changes in the 2025 that would justify it over a 2024 that given the deals that can be found and a lower MSRP. A 2025 is going to cost $5-7k more than a 2024 can be had for right now.
@@clarkkent9080 Tech addicts will pay $7000 just to have the all-important bigger screen. It's more important than water and food these days .
Front is better on 2024, the piece they added on the tailgate wasn’t necessary. The 2024 is cleaner looking. All other changes to 2025 are good. I’d buy the 2025.
Agree, 💯
@@eddiehaskell5578 so buy the 25 and swap the bumper and grill for a 24
Edit: meant for OP
@@JJsGA I got 2,500 miles on my 2024. My next truck will be 2030-2035.
@@eddiehaskell5578 nice! I'm just under 1800 on mine. Got it July 3rd
@@eddiehaskell5578 Same.
4D Tech has the stop start eliminator, I just installed one on my 2023 P4x. Works great and easy install. 100.00
There even newer eliminators that do not require a separate power lead and cost ~$35 a nd I am sure more designs will be coming since start/stop is relatively new with Nissan
Thanks Nissan for sticking with the V6! I have the 2024 model and never use the Auto Stop feature and am getting 22 mpg in and around town.... Suck it EPA....
Suck it EPA🎉🎉🎉❤😅❤😅❤😂😅😂😂 LOVE IT!
IF THE biden administration didn't wage war on fossil fule there wouldn't be an issue!
Also we need to get rid of Ethanolo, stop hurting the farmers I say!
The new look of the 2025 looks really good. 2024 also looks good but overall, the update shows very well.
What baffles me is these 4 cylinder turbos get worse MPG than the Frontier.
Correct. The small displacement turbo engines almost universally used now is designed for one thing and one thing only: To meet the ridiculously stringent EPA CAFA fuel economy regulations by NOT having the turbo kick-in on the test cycle. But in the real-world driving, the turbo is kicking in all the time, sucking fuel worse than a comparably powered NA engine. Doesn't matter. It was designed to pass the test. But at least you get a more expensive, complex and less reliable engine with much worse driving dynamics that a NA engine. That's liberal government bureaucrats at work for us.
There have been comparisons (TFL) between the Nissan V6 and all the other turbo models and in a normal driving loop, the V6 does get lower fuel economy as would be expected. But it is only ~2 mpg less and that is acceptable to me. I own a 2024 Pro-X
Awesome 👍 a real naturally aspirated V6. Love it, thank you very much Nissan for not giving in to the crappy EPA. Now we have a real truck that is reliable and better than other brands.👍🇨🇦👍
GO NISSAN!!!!!!!! 🎉 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
2024 Frontier . Very smooth 9 speed auto transmission. 6 cylinder very smooth good on gas.Auto start and stop can be turned off on the dash.Not an issue.Very well put together.Good pricing.
The frontier, the last of the Mohican… gonna be checking this or might get the 2024 Pro 4X either one both are fantastic
I've got the 24 P4X. It's been great
@@JJsGA thank you for the update
The new one is nicer on many levels, and looks like the hardbody model they just had for 2024. The extra towing is also a welcome improvement.
There were no suspension or drive train changes between 2022 and 2025, so the increased towing is technically identical for all gen 3s
@@clarkkent9080 not for insurance purposes.
@@chrisheiderscheit7077 Not sure what that means. Towing more than the manufacturer recommends can cause overheating and reduced longevity. Since all trailers over 2k lbs are required to have brakes, it should not effect braking and pulling too heavy a load will reduce your top speed, so I don't see where it could cause an accident. We are talking about 500 lbs here and I have never heard of an insurance company immediately coming to the scene of an accident and weighing a trailer and vehicle contents to determine if GVWR was exceeded. My point is simply that 2022-2024 have been underrated by 500 lbs. Towing capacity is affected by outside temperature and elevation. The real limit on towing capacity is tongue weight and oil/trans temps.
I love that Nissan brought back the three horizontal slots on top of the grille like they had on their trucks in the 80's and 90's
Like my 80s Hardbody has. Those slots are almost 40 years old!
Thanks Nissan! Can't wait to buy this new 2025.
I never thought I'd consider a Nissan but sticking with a normally aspirated v6 and now a 6' bed on the Nismo has it on my list in place of the chevy and ford that have left those real truck traits behind. I just hope they have updated the transmission for reliability.
Nissan trucks never had bad transmissions, ever. People take the car CVT problems of the past, and apply them to ALL Nissans, past and present.
Nissan needs to put V6 badges on their trucks!
I don't want tech, I want mechanical and analog that's super reliable once the warranty expires.
I agree but no matter what you choose there will be some tech. I was so happy to see the Frontier with a mechanical foot e-brake. No motors to go bad and no special procedure to unlock e-brake when replacing pads.
Lots of Tacoma owners are now looking at, and buying, Frontiers. I've owned Toyota trucks all my adult life but I won't buy that turbo 4. I need my trucks to last.
Been buying Tacoma's for 20 years. Three of them. Looks like I'll buy a Nissan this time.
That Frontier logo under the screen is hideous
check the mirror
@@robthomas1829 Ouch!😆
I'm gonna use a black sharpie to color it out can't wait
Thank you Nissan for keeping that V6!
Remember, if you don’t like the auto stop start feature, then take a guitar pic or something similar and wedged in between the button and make sure the button stays pushed in all the time. You’ll never need to worry about it shutting off again.
Always thought that was one of the dumbest auto industry trends ever. Should only be an option to turn on if you’re stuck in hour traffic. It sounds so dumb at a light hearing someone’s engine fire up every stop lol
The gladiator also still has a V6! It’s not the last one standing! Luckily. Love both trucks
2016 to 2019 was the peek FRONTIER. Fuel Efficiency improvements have been insignificant. Styling is not really improvement. I like the manual transmission option, switch gear and thank God for the integrated satellite navigation screen. Subwoofer under front passenger seat made deep rich sounds. All of these trucks are used commercially in construction sites or security patrols, idling 4 to 6 hours per day so a smaller engine option would make sense. Maybe three litres or so producing around 200 horsepower/torque getting 20/30mpg.
I've never warmed up to the looks of the new Frontier but good for them for keeping the V6.
I wouldn’t say they’re not bowing if it’s only a minor refresh with the same powertrain. Not that refreshes are bad. But I’m interested what they’re going to do for a new powertrain when the time actually comes.
With that said, I actually love how it looks. I think it looks badass. And the 6ft bed is a good bonus.
I’m super curious with pricing .
Hopefully, with this refresh prices don’t go up since it’s not an actual powertrain upgrade.
Also Nissan needs to be managed better . They can’t keep Losing 97% net profits if they want to continue going forward with the Frontier and overall.
@bryx100
I really hope they don’t go crazy on the price
Nissan did NOT bow down to the EPA, but it seems like all the other manufactures have
@@user-JBT 100% agree with you the frontier is the best midsize truck on the market in 2024
The Tacoma lost the number one spot whenever they switch to a turbo
@@WheelsandWallets yeah me too. Prices have gotten out of hand this year. I hope they keep the price the same
@@WheelsandWalletsTacoma transmissions are crap too.
I wish I could mix and match and create my own truck from the Frontier, Colorado, and Tacoma.
What's nice in Tacoma? Ugly screen, turbo 4, junk transmissions, plastic bed, cartoon body....What's left except a fanboy name?
I like the older bumper too
The Jeep Gladiator is also a mid size truck body on frame with a V6
True...and I rather have a Gladiator than a Nissan (and I do).
-- BR
@@billredding2000 if you're the kind of guy that loves to visit dealer's shops once a month.
@@cnn787-i9e Thanks, but I'm a fairly smart guy and that's one reason I went with Jeep, to NOT be in the dealer's Service Dept much (contrary to your imaginations). In reality, Mr. Incredibly Clueless (to be kind), I only go in for my regular servicing: Oil/filter change & tire rotation (so far)...about ever 7 months or so for just over 3 years now. Next such servicing due in 2-3 months I guess (according to my Oil Life monitor as I use that vs. a set mileage number on my odometer).
Still, you might want to educate yourself about the Jeeps of today -- UNLESS you're the kind of guy that loves to parrot what other also clueless people say about Jeep and keep making lame criticisms (which you just did) about issues that really don't exist anymore. And unlike Ford, Toyota and Mazda lately, NO Recalls or even TSBs issued on my Gladiator. Not even for airbags. Amazing, but no surprise really for those who know better.
The fact is the current Jeeps (meaning the "classic-looking" ones, the Wrangler JLs 2018+ and Gladiator JTs 2020+) are the best Jeeps have even been.
In fact, if I had to buy a new (I don't buy used) vehicle tomorrow, I'd get another Gladiator (Rubicon) w/o any hesitation whatsoever.
Just tell me where to sign. ;-)
"Jeep Wave"
-- BR
Hopefully they also do a kingcab pro4x.
I had a Nissan 1990 Hardbody. Incredible vehicle. !!!
I love my 23 Pro 4X and it has all those safety features you mentioned and it doesn’t have the stop start button 👍🏼
Trucks looks awesome! Glad they kept the V6.
Glad they have a 6 foot bed option.
Rear Locker?
Front Locker?
Ground Clearance?
Payload?
Better departure and approach angles??
This is what matters most to so many that want to go out on overlanding/camping/off-road adventures!
Not just for going to Home Depot or Costco!
99% of owners will never see dirt road.
I mean, they kinda did cuz the new Armada/Patrol/QX80 are gonna be TTV6 instead of their V8
Stop starting sentences with “I mean.” So not straight.
@@bjornironsides6474 if it's not straight, then what is it?
@@JokerG16 flamboyant or teen bopper girl talk. And also incorrectly used.
@@bjornironsides6474 not sure why this bothered you so much man. and it takes away from the initial topic at hand.
@@JokerG16 I’m good, just helping a brother out.
Nismo has aftermarket bumpers as well as upgraded billstien shocks with reservoirs light weight alloy wheels & a nice leveling/lift kit you can add at dealership & still spend less$ than most competitors top tier in the same class & believe me the suspension & wheels alone really improve ride & the steel bumpers are tough as well also you'll have a real nice personalized truck that most others wont have
watch what dealership you use. My local charges TWICE the Nissan MSRP for all parts. I found an online Nissan dealer that charges ~20% less than MSRP.
I would like one but i can not afford it due to the inflation on other necessity items. Stil thought i like the exterior better than the tacoma. Most likely will get a used 2023 pro 4x.
Nissan is thousands less that the Taco and I just got $5,500 off MSRP on a pro-x and some people are saying they got more than $7,000 off.
The main reason why manufacturers are doing away with manual transmissions is because of all of the mandatory safety systems. Like lane keep assist, and frontal collision avoidance, and so forth. They have to rely on autonomous brake and transmission response to work properly. Systems that would be unattainable with a manual transmission.
I would argue a manual is one of the best safety features in a vehicle. It forces one to drive, and not passively-drive, relying on all the nanny tech as one multi-tasks on their phone or tries to operate all the poorly configured info-tech screens.
Manuals are disappearing simply because people are NOT buying them. If there was a demand then manufacturers would offer then. They are the best theft deterrent as so few today know how to drive one.
@@RareGenXerI agree, but insurance and profitable tech manufacturers disagree.
The 2025 just needs a paint strip in the middle. The all black front end is ehhhh.
I like the club cab. I prefer the old grill. I like the old price. I don’t like the start/stop button. I like the V6.
I think 2022 -2024 was the best Frontier when it comes to style.
I've been a Toyota guy all my life.
But gotta say, if i was in the market for this size truck, I'd choose it over a the Tacoma hands down, no questions asked.
I'm still in a 2006 DC 2wd Tundra until it dies.
I’m glad to hear they won’t bow down to the EPA! So now, they should go ahead and put the manual transmission back in the Frontier. It would be a no-brainer Best Buy if it had a 6 speed manual! I’m told the automatics are better for EPA ratings. Why do manufacturers put manual transmissions in their cars everywhere else in the world but not North America?
Nobody in the US buys manuals. Other parts of the world are taught on manuals and we don't really use them.
@@iiiiii7680Who is we? I use my two manuals daily. My Hardbody trans is 37 years old and still acts young. These are jewels. A FEW of us keep a vehicle instead of always trading in, and those new automatics are a fortune to fix. What is so hard about shifting anyway? A 6 speed in the Frontier would be the best simple, analog truck. NO computer running the transmission just because lazy Americans don't want to shift gears.
@@jeanclaude7018 Im saying "we" as in people in north america. I personally enjoy driving a manual but 90%+ of people in the north american region do not want a manual
@@iiiiii7680 got it. Yes, lazy Americans love the luxuries, and don't mind paying for them, either by constant trade-ins, or the $6000 bill when that nice slushbox gives up the ghost. They're too complex to rebuild yourself like I once could with the old autos.
My 37 year old manual transmission has spoiled me, because I know a transmission can outlast the truck without that horrible expense. Oh, and I can push start if the battery or starter croak in Timbuk 3.
I read that manufacturers say manual transmission represents only 4% of total truck sales. I think the extra build runs etc is hardly worth it
I like the look, it makes the truck look more rugged and capable
I like both but i thing the refresh looks robust and bulky while older one is sleeker
I could do without the orange trim on everything in the interior. Otherwise, it looks decent.
Is there a way to take away the safety features. I can drive with common sense, and it would bring costs down on a new vehicle.
@@user-xc7pu7kb2v I don’t believe there’s a way unfortunately but you have a great point because those features are not cheap. Hopefully there’s not much of a price increase.
Wait until even a minor fender bender throws all those systems off kilt. Thousands more in repair costs replacing and then re-calibrating everything.
All the new extra options were on the Nissan Maxima. Had a 16 & a 23. Some of those options were annoying. They just didn't belong on a truck. Traded in the 23 Maxima for a 24 Pro x-4. Simpler and the v6 is great.
All of these updates are great, I've been eyeballing the Frontier for a few years. Was hoping 2025 was gonna be it. But sounds like the cameras have yet to be updated.
What good is a V6 with no payload? The #1 reason I would never buy this truck is the payload rating. A loaded Pro4X short bed barely has 1000 pounds of payload which is pathetic, and the new long bed P4X will be much lower than that. Calm down, Nissan isn't bucking the EPA. They're keeping the V6 because they can't afford to develop a new engine. Nissan has been on the brink of bankruptcy for years.
The added plastic is only for the "Pro" trims like the Pro-X and Pro-4X.
Start-Stop doesn't save gas, it's purpose is to cause accelerated engine wear from having to start up all of the time.
I hate it also as it is on my 2024 Pro-x. But there are multiple ways to defeat it and you still get all the bennies (HD starter, HD battery, HD heating/cooling system).
I have 2024 SV 4x4 Long Bed with the convenience and technology packages, spray in bed liner with the utili-track system. What a nice truck. My second Frontier. I would have bought the Pro 4X, but it only came with a short bed. Show stopper for me. Interesting, Nissan did a refresh for 2025. Nissan did next to nothing on the Gen 2 Frontier your years. I think they smell blood in the water because of the issues Toyota is having with their Tundra's and buyers not thrilled with the 4-banger in the Tacoma.
I’m admittedly a Toyota fanboy. Early small Toyota truck before they branded them Tacoma, two Gen 1 Tundras, and currently a 3rd Gen 2017 Tacoma. But for the first time in my adult life I would look long and hard at the Nissan Frontier if I was ever in the market for a new truck.
6 foot bed is definitely cool but other then that I’ll just keep my 2024 pro 4x
I wish theyd bring back the grill styling of the d21.
I like the front end on the 2024 model. However, I'm going to wait for the 2025 model. I want the 6-foot bed and the increased towing capacity. Also, the cameras on the older models are terrible.
I like the 2025 a lot I'm considering swapping my 2020 pro-4x for this one, I also love the orange color
I like the 2025 Grill, it goes back to the Hardbody slot design.
I’m digging the 2025. Really like what Nissan is doing with the Frontier.
Of course they are obeying the EPA, don’t kid yourself.
I'm curious does the 6-ft bed one have the option with the big screen with wireless Android Auto cuz if there's an option for that one that rather get that one
Awesome, they kept the way under powered v6, awesome 🤡
Yeah hands down the current truck looks better, it's the best looking out there and the refresh detracts from that. That big black peice across the tailgate, WTF!! :-(. Six foot bed now on Pro4x is a great addition. If I bought the '25 I would have to buy a black one to tone down that crap they stuck on it.
I had a 2004 Nissan Frontier with a 4cyl power plant. I was plenty of pep for me and it got okay gas mileage. This 6cyl for the size of truck is just stupid.
Of the 4..Colorado, Tacoma, Frontier and Ranger, I love the v6. Most assume Toyota and then Nissan are the trucks to get. Unfortunately, the Nissan felt dated, and the steering felt heavy and was terrible in the city or just trying to park. Underway It was louder and not nearly as comfortable as the Colorado or Ranger. The V6 is reliable but lacked that punch of the turbo but I realize that's the trade off . Then we got to the interiors and the seats, materials, ergonomics, tech were the best in the Ranger and the size was larger than the rest especially in the rear with the Frontier being the smallest. Towing and payload are important and all 4 would work but again the Ford did excellent and the size of the This is a truck that I am buying for a long-term employee and close friend and the reliability and price point on the Nissan was the best by about 1500.00 along with lower financing. I ended up with a 2wd Ranger XLT w sport package, tech and towing 500.00 under invoice. It just felt the best overall in this tight segment and I was sure I was going to get the Toyota or Nissan.
King cab, 6' box in the Pro4x... would be perfect.
If only there is a manual transmission option for frontier i would go for it, i am in the market right now looking at tacoma because of the 6 speed manual they have but i dont like its engine
Waiting for the 6ft bed on the pro4 X 2025
Huh???? 70% of the world uses Android on their phones.
It is a truck not a playstation. People demand so much tech on a vehicle that has nothing to do with getting from point A to B and then complain about the price.
New front end is butt ugly. 😢
@@jamesgraham1662 Agreed. Not a good look.
I’m ok with strong 4 cylinders in mid size trucks.. it’s the cylinder deactivation that is highly unnecessary. Hello GM
2024 is better looking!
Can't believe I only needed 30k for a new loaded 2011 pro-4x. 50k now? wow, prices have gone insane.
There are deals. I just got a 2024 Pro -X for $5,500 under MSRP, no add-ons, no BS.
I wish all manufacturers of midsized trucks kept their V6 while Toyota might have the most reliable turbo 4 eventually I would prefer a naturally aspirated V6 for reliability. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
No port fuel injection. Stay clear. Clear of carbon build i mean. If they included a Toyota-like D-4S injection system I would buy one - a second one. The power is awesome even at high altitude like Flagstaff.
I'm just going to wait for someone to list the new wheels for sell so I can replace my current 2024 pro4x wheels
I can’t say it enough thank you Nissan
Kinda of, they're also saying they want to go all electric very soon.
It looks amazing but it’s missing the cooled seats since other midsize trucks have it like new taco and Chevy Colorado and maybe the canyon
But then it costs more, and folks gripe about that...
I like reliable V6 far more than seat cooler. We're getting way too spoiled.
Where are the roof racks?
I don't wan't the safety features. I don't trust them anyway.
I'm likely to buy a new Frontier in a year or so. I could care less if it's the current body style or the latest. Just want a midsized truck with a 6 cyl.
The refresh I’m ok doesn’t bother me
Is there a manual transmission ?
Ya that's not how it works!! Nissan doesn't have to meet the same EPA standards cause they don't sell nearly as many trucks. Nobody's buying the Titan so the overall emission numbers are low compared to the big 3.
For the last three years Ive been all Tacoma but had to wait until this year to get a Taco. But now that Toyota decided to go four cylinder in the new Taco’s, Im going with the Frontier in a couple months. Toyota can go suck an egg.
Love my 2023 Nissan Frontier Pro4x
I hate those screens and all the worthless 'safety features'
like the v6, looks cheap with the plastic. probably has a cvt so that would be a deal breaker. same for stop start gimmick
Please fix the steering
Nissan truly makes the ugliest trucks on the market
idk i like the new look much more.
@@n0xxm3rcyxx i’m ready to see it in person
So happy they kept the V6
The Peterbilt front truck look is getting outdated, but they are all still doing it. The Nissans would look better with body color grilles. The Tundra front end gives me seizures.
Tundra grill = modern equivalent of Edsel.
Of course I’d say I like the 2023 model/style better. Thank god I really do(relieved actually). Overpaid for mine, I was thinking. Now not as much. Definitely not a fan of the CVT transmission, so thought I’d hear something about that with the 2025-either way. (Can’t figure out how to get mine out of eco drive, though, so I think that’s most of the problem.) Surprised (pissed) not more owners complained about that when I was scanning the internet for reviews. And, yes, dealerships: A different breed.
No CVT in the Frontier. NOT even for 2025. Still the same 3.8 and 9speed auto from 2020 and up.
Frontier never had a CVT. Read a book or something JC
@@mikekolb238 You sure? 😂 I think you’re wrong there, friend. And as a newly retired English teacher, I promise you I’ve read a few books. Including the poorly designed Frontier manual. I’ve got mine in eco drive right now and it runs like a slug. Can’t figure out how to switch out of it. Scoured through the manual, and the Internet. Can you offer some more neighborly advice?
@@mikekolb238 Dang, you are right!!! Just back from the dealership. I’ve been looking at so much stuff online and UA-cam I’ve blown circuits. And, pretty sure wrong again about the eco drive. Doesn’t seem to have that either. Never mind.🥳Now, to get back to lying on the couch… maybe some fishing. 👴🏻🤙🏼
Nissan can you do Hybrid V6 😂
Lie...Ranger Rapter is v6 also
Love it. Just a beast.
Regular cab 2 door. 6 foot bed. Twin turbo! Ok, maybe not gunna happen. The 6 foot bed would be great, could fit my fishing poles in there. Like the wheels, the front end looks good. More plastic, but most painted fronts ends suffer the most stone chips. I like the black on the tailgate, but wasn't really needed. A decal would have been better than the obtrusive plastic thing that sticks out and will just collect salt and dust behind it. A place for corrosion to start and ha e that annoying "seepage" of crap running down the everytime it rains or when you wash it. Now, I hope they don't increase the price anymore. Vehicles are nuts! If I could get zero interest or a REALLY low rate for maybe 60 months, I just might be in. Just no way in hell am I forking out 7 or 800 a month for a vehicle.
I will probably buy a 25
Breaking news Toyota is bringing back the V6 engine in the 2025 Toyota Tacoma……