SIO2 Car Soaps - Do They Work & Warning!!
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- SCOTT WITH DALLAS PAINT CORRECTION & AUTO DETAILING IN PLANO TEXAS TALKS ABOUT SIO2 CAR SOAPS AND IF THEY LEAVE ANY PROTECTION BEHIND
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Products Used:
1. McKee's 37 MK37-690 Sio2 Auto Wash, 16 fl. oz. - amzn.to/2TVyqpy
2. Americana Global Ceramic Aftercare Soap - Infused with Silica SiO2 (Gallon) - amzn.to/335goW5
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Yeah the point is to use it WITH ceramic coated paints to help durability of the coating and not adding coating
I've only ever seen these types of soaps advertised as a ceramic coating aftercare soap, not for bare paint.
Well thats convenient
@@ShellSnell fast forward to today, there are some out there that do leave protection now. Carpro Hydro2 foam, Turtle wax, Griots, Mothere, and Meguiars all have offerings now.
Scott...the first several times I watched your detail videos, I thought 'when is he going to shut up?;. After watching a ton of other videos by pro detailers then watching a few more of your vids, I realized your intent. You talk your thoughts and methods through each one. You do make good sense of it all...and I do mean ALL products you demo and/or review. There are just a few others, like the AMMO guy, who give it all they got. I have to say, you save me time thinking about a product. I'm just a weekend detail warrior on my new 2018 black Silverado and you've been a tremendous help. Thank you
I've actually had a good experience with the sio2 soaps, particularly carpro hydro2 soap. I will say that I've only used it in a foam cannon, never in a bucket wash. I usually get around 1-2 months of durability
This is a soap that I will probably never buy. Especially since I'm a high schooler at 16 years old detailing cars. I can barely afford Chemical Guys products. For someone young, I am pretty wise with my money. These videos also help with that. Especially the cheaper alternative videos that you do. Those have saved me alot of $$$. Keep up the good work Scott!
Slater Roberge ...yeah, the $3 Megs works great for your needs, trust Scott here🐣
If you want powerful soap throw some apc in bucket
Do you think maybe it doesn’t work because it’s not coated? I’m wondering if it’s advertised that way because it actually meant to react with the SiO2 coating on the vehicle. So then if the car isn’t coated, there is no SiO2 to react with, therefore rendering it as useful as a regular car soap. I feel that’s why a lot of these soaps advertise the SiO2
How do we know if it works on a coated car if it's already coated. Snake oil
@@Dee--Jay
True, but then you can say that about pretty much any product that’s meant to “boost” the coating....
I tested Gyeon Bathe+ (SiO2 shampoo) almost 4 years ago on my house windows. The glass I washed with it is still beading as we speak. Try Gyeon's version of it and I guarantee you'll have a different opinion. The reason I no longer use SiO2 shampoo is because everything the product touches ends up becoming hydrophobic and extremely slippery including tyres and anywhere else the soap runs. SiO2 of course loves to water spot, which means you then get lovely water spotting everywhere even in the crevasses you can't reach. Lovely! Great idea but in reality not the most practical. I'll stick with normal shampoo.
the tiny amount of sio2 in these soaps did seem gimmicky, but spraying on something like CarPro Hydro2 then rinsing it off is a different story, those products are game changers. love your no-nonsense style by the way!
Love your honest, no nonsense reviews- keep it up!
There's a lot of snake oil out there, thanks for calling this marketing gimmick out !
I agree with you, but me as a detailer I need to research a bit more about ceramic coat wash soaps.
I also believe it can be fake too but you need to know that the real si02 wash soap have surfactants and emulsifiers as their main ingredient and that's why they work better in coated vehicles. This test shows that silica soap on uncoated vehicles work as dish soap.
Hello Scott, thanks for the video! I am thinking back and wondering if I have ever heard the claim that SiO2 wash, by itself, leaves behind "protection" on uncoated surfaces (which I believe was the point of the video) and I don't think I have. While, as you said, they are great soaps they are intended as a system. What I know of SiO2 it seems to bond best to itself, which is why the process of applying a coating has one or many types of adhesives in the traveling agent to help it bond. Also, while the soaps are great for coated vehicles they do contain SiO2 and at a minimum you should use gloves while handling it. Your skin is very porous and your body does not need SiO2, in fact, has to work very hard to clear what soaks into you. Anything you can do to minimize exposure is worth it. If it does that to your shoes, imagine what it does to your organs! Please people, use PPE when handling even light caustic chemicals and expect the best results of SiO2 soap with SiO2 coatings. Thanks again, for the video.
William Brown I actually just bought a bottle of carpro hydrofoam because it claims exactly that. It will leave behind a protective layer that will last around 3 months according to the manufacturer.
You know I got respect for you Scott. I use hydrofoam on stripped surfaces, glass, trim, and paint....100% OF THE TIME is changes the contact angle and beads and sheets water. What I have found to be the case with this soap is the fact it is hyper sensitive to other detergents. I have a bucket, foam.cannon, sprayer, and Mitt just for hydrofoam so I dont cross contaminate. If yourMitt, or bucket wasn't washed properly of all prior detergents, it wont work at all. Also of the panel you stripped still has apc or solvent on it, it wont work. I will strip with hyperwash and an oz of citrus ppwer cleaner plus and rinse it really well. If this was hydrofoam I'm actually shocked. I've never had a failure with it yet. I pay $20 per liter.
Scott, have you tested any of the newer Si02 washes that have come out since this video? I ask because I've used some with incredible results on vehicles with no coatings or waxes on the paint.
i guess since were not naming brands i wont ether lmao the product i use works much better and is more economical when used in a foam cannon after the car is already clean also it protects anything it touches like plastics, glass, rubbers and unclear-coated surfaces, i constantly see 3 months of protection i enjoy it so much my clients have to pay more for tradition waxes because they take much longer to apply
Hello, Scott! Thanks for the insight on sio2 soaps. I was close on buying one a few days ago and second guessed myself.
I heard from a coating manufacturer that the amount of SiO2 in soaps is so small that It's just for gloss and shine, not for protection
Fawad Hassan this^^ haha hows a small amount of si02 going to literally leave protection haha.
Hi Scott, I started to believe what your were showing and telling until I saw the water clearing out on the side you used the silicon soap by the time the video was done. If you look at what they are advertising is exactly for that reason, so maybe you may want to wait and see how fast the water clears and dries out on the siicon used side vs regular soap side before making any inaccurate conclusions. Thanks for the video. Appreciate your efforts to share your experiences.
I bought some SIO2 soap once. i coated my car and wanted to wash it with an SIO2 soap to maybe add a thin layer of protection over the coating after every wash. Maybe to help the coating last a bit longer. Even though i knew it would be a very minute amount of SIO2 added to the surface. I thought, it cant hurt anything. The soap worked great. So i thought ill wash a car with no protection and see how it changes the beading or sheeting. Just like your video shows. Nothing changed at all. I thought hmmmmmm. Needles to say once i used it I didn't buy anymore lol.
What type you bought
Wish you could test Modesta products but they're smart since they don't sell it to the general public. I was asked to wash a friend's car with their products since he was told by his coating installer you need to use their products only or the coating will lose it's gloss. Used the special soap and boy was it not slick nor foamy vs Meg's hyper wash. Only positive side was it smelled amazing! So much gimmick being sold on the coating market these days on that you have to wash your car a specific way to maintain the coating that is supposedly strong enough to resist scratches. Makes no sense.
I tried HydroSilex Silica Soap today, they say 1oz in a bucket wash. I started with 2oz in 3 gallons of water, no beading or sheeting, bumped it up to 4oz and still nothing. Then 8oz, nothing. Then 15oz of silica soap in 3 gallons of water and still absolutely nothing. Finally I dumped 1oz of silica soap on the hood and washed with my mitt, and guess what no beading or sheeting. All of this was done after I did my pre wash with Carpro Muti X, let it sit for 3 minutes then rinsed with pressure washer. Then foamed with 1oz Carpro Reset and 2oz bug remover in the IK Foam Pro 12, let sit for 3 minutes then did a 2 bucket wash and rinsed with pressure washer. Then did the Hydro Sikex Silica soap test, all of this was done with DI water. A rep from Hydro Sikex told me that this is normal and that it takes several washes to get any results. I washed the truck 4 times with 15oz of soap in 3 gallons of water with no results, highly disappointed.
You should try Gyon Bath + i have try it many times on cars whit no protection, and it beads up well for some weeks
Well now I know what’s happened to my shoes! Slick as a minnow! Thank you.
Another great video Scott!! I'm using a while ago Carpro Reset (because i have a coated veichle) and the major problem i notice is LACK OF CLEANING HABILTY, wich for me is a major problem!
CarPro eraser isn't a car wash, it's a paint prep.
Ken Lawton , 😂😂 correct. I ment Reset! Thanks for the repair.
@@mqdias1 😉
Check out Brians video APEX Detail on Reset... I use it on my coated / sealed cars with no problem..
ken bence i use it also, but i think in comparison to others that are not sio2, it misses some cleanliness hability. Just my opinion! I'll check Brian's vídeo! Thanks
So since they aren't PH neutral, will it help remove Traffic Film?
"Lemme make sure I wash this thing improperly" lol.
I would have to disagree...I have a Black car that has 5 year ceramic pro coating. The hood had a warranty claim and had to be repainted last month. The Si02 soap (Americana) that I use does not sheet the water off the hood however when it rains it still prevents water spotting and does offer some beading. I will have the hood coated soon but overall I think Si02 is worth the price
Scott, can you do a video on starting a detailing business. Cover things like how to start, pricing, supplies you need, starting budget, etc. Thanks, from Georgia!
I guess when it is called a sio2 soap, it just means the soap is for sio2 coating but there is not any sio2 in the soap. Maybe SiO2 soap perform more cleaning power on coated surface.
Zhen Li - Some of those soaps, like the Gyeon Bathe+ (plus), actually do contain a small amount of SiO2.
Thank u , good to know
Very useful information I'll make sure I wear a helmet when I go on the grocery store!😆
So the old wash and wax method is still the best method
SiO2 soap has always worked for me, so far, but I've stuck Adams Polishes wash and wax. If that has something to due with it.
I think it's meant to preserve the ceramic wax or coating. Not add coating.. Normal soap usually strips wax easily. My car doesn't bead up anymore and it has hydro silex with bead maker and on top of that, seal and shine! So i was considering a ceramic wash
Garry Dean’s EVO shampoo works but you have to rinse the soap off then dry the car and then spray water on it and it will bead water like you got a ceramic coating on your vehicle but it is $27.00 a 16 oz. or $80.00 gallon and smells like watermelon. I love it gives you 2 months protection!!!
Thank you Scott
I have a DA orbital palm air sander, can I use that for correction work with a hook and loop attachment and the correct pad
Another great video Scott!
What exactly is the protection you talk about. What does it protect against?
Scott the Silicon Dioxide Truth Warrior! Unfortunately, it's sometimes easy to manipulate people's passions and unscrupulous marketers take advantage of those passions.
Scott, could you please do a review on Bead Maker, it’s been out for a year or better but all of a sudden seems to be making its way through the “UA-cam” detailers. But frankly yours is the only opinion that matters to me. The product looks very interesting, but not sure if it’s all money driven hype. Thanks for all the great content
Ive been using it well before the youtube detailers got a hold of it , its a gem for sure. If it was marketing hype dont you think they wouldve sent the product to guys like matt from obsessed garage , or to scott when it first released if they were after money? P&S markets their local area thats how I found about them, I always see their detail van at car shows.
Cody Boss just recently beadmaker has been out for a while now
Can you please give us your opinion on cross over sealants and waxes? And products like Ardex. Straight the point. 😊
@@Gnetbird I'm a big Ardex fan ... very solid performance at great prices. I make better profits using Ardex and other off the radar products. Technicians Choice is another great product line.
beadmaker is 100% hype
😂🤣 This is hilarious. Very well done!
Got armor all, I didn’t see much different on my car. But parts of driveway became hydrophobic.
I’m sitting down watching this video I haven’t had problems falling after using soaps like this. But what I’m getting at I rubbed my shoes on the ground and it was very slick I just realized it that’s funny.
Scott u r video are very informative but please Try Carpro soap they are popular brand in coating .
I think they will not dispointed u
What was the point of the tape if you just worked both sides. Now there's no comparison
great video again. I'm going 2 change ur name 2 Scott the science guy!!!!
You da man Scott !
I was taught through the auto parts industry that is soap I'd to b used with ceramic coated cars only
Good info. Thanks so much.
what about it helping to reduce spots
What about soaps which may or may not strip wax.
Thanks Scott. I was gonna buy one, not any more. 🤯
...so what happens when it gets onto your car tyres?
I’ll take purple power wash and a easy sealant like opti seal any day I’m not into the whole coating thing I love wax and sealants
Scott please let us know when you think a product falls short by telling us what it is!
Try gyeon's bathe+ you'll have rethink you oppinion 🙂
Damn, and I just bought a soap that is Si02 for people with coated cars.
Which soap is this?
Yeah for car soaps it's really tough to beat Meguiars Gold Class for the money I think a lot of people agree with me on that.
It's not that hard to beat. Gold Class dilution ratio isn't good. Try Meguiar's Hyper Wash. It's more economical when you factor in how little of it you have to use compared to Gold Class. It's also a better soap imo.
Scott love your channel. Do you know why sio2 is needed for coatings?
Just as long as this wasn’t carpro reset this is valid.
I only ever use sio2 soap once and a blue moon when ever I’m applying my maintenance IGL premier
Would have made more sense if you had used half the hood! You marked it up, why not use half?
Does anyone here have a thought on ceramic pro?
I purchased Mckees sio2 car wash soap also and was not impressed
I'm getting ready to decontaminate, polish and seal my new car, and I have a question - how does one not get polishes/waxes/sealants on rubber/plastics?
painters tape
Reggie Reginato masking tape
Painters tape NOT masking tape. Painters tape WON'T leave a tape line and removes effortlessly.
Thanks everyone... Just find it strange because everyone I know and every video I've seen to date I had never seen painters tape used except when runing comparisions. I'm just looking to improve my amatuer techniques (and keep the resale value of the car up for the long term).
I meant masking tape for automotive work not cheap crap from walmart i.e. 3m masking tape
I paid 80 for a gallon I wish I seen this sooner 😞
Gyeon bath + beads like crazy
you dont show which soap you used, so it easily could have been a non si02 soap. we are supposed to just take your word? haha
Scott, the one with the + at the end is the one you wanna use here, come on now. You have many "sheeple" here, steer the herd in the right direction, please🐏
Klasse Act who says this isn't gyeon bathe plus:)
Sorry, I go with scientific evidence, not conjectures and hypotheses. He has visual evidenciary proof these soaps do not work; you have conjecture and innuendo. I will side with scientific evidence every time.
Scott will set you free
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Haha you call yourself a Detailer and you don’t even know how the product works what a joke
This is baloney
Newfoundland steak???