Isuzu MU-X Provent 200 Catch Can - Draining my Catch Can after 9000 km
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2019
- G'Day Guys and Gals!
In this video i show you how to drain your Provent 200 Catch can and also how much oil my catch can has stopped from going through the intake system on my 2018 Isuzu MU-X.
It is a good idea to check and drain your catch can approximately every 5000 km especially if it is a Provent 200 as they work extremely well to separate the oil from the crank case ventilation fumes that are circulated back into the intake.
This is the second time i have drained my catch can in the last 9000 km, first after around 5000 km of having it fitted and now at around 9000 k. The Provent 200 caught approximately 200ml of oil in around 9000 km. When you see this amount of oil in a cup it really puts it into perspective of why it is so important to fit a catch can to your turbo diesel 4x4.
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Hi Guys!
Here's a link to the Western Filters Catch Can!
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Cheers :)
Thanks for the video; narrated and edited really well mate. I just had Ultimate Diesel Tuning do a soot clean, tune and fit one to my Pajero Sport. They recommended checking it after two fuel tanks of fuel after it was fitted to get a gauge on how much oil vapour it’s collecting. I’ve done about 4 tanks of fuel and I’ll be checking it tomorrow now lol.
Good Job Mate. Very Informative. All the best.
Hi Nik, love the video. Would be great to do another at the 40K mark replacing the filter and also ripping the inlet pipe off the intercooler to see if there was any blow by of oil. Thanks.
Can't argue with that Nick. Thanks mate.
Best mod I did was installing the Provent 200 at 3000km on the DMax. Drained about half a litre over 20000km. Done monthly it all adds up.
Re the ball valve, I bought a pack of rubber chair leg end caps. Cheap and keeps the valve clean.
Hi Nick, good insight into the benefits of installing a catch can, especially the Provent 200. I've got a 2020 3.2 Pajero I've had since new. At 50.000kms I had to get the egr pulled out and cleaned manually as it was very gunky and the valve was sticky and not opening and shutting properly which was causing it to run a bit off and the motor would run on for a second after turning it off and would stop with a shudder. The dpf light was on too. I had it fixed by a independent reputable diesel workshop as i didn't trust the Mitsubishi dealership. Got a Provent 200 catch can fitted and 10.000kms later and no problems. Bit surprised it happened at low klms.
I have the Provent in my Jeep Ecodiesel and collect about the same amount you do. I do drain it every month 😄
After watching your video i made up my mind to get one for my hilux, it done nearly 70k already probably there alot of oil in the intake system
Nice job mate 👍
Ryco does a replacement element for the Provent and now make their own version of the Provent filter style catch can.
Thank you for that great information
Hi love watching the catch can video but have got one on a second fuel filter thanks
I get similar out of the Ranger and 200 Nick, well worth it. Cheers Steve
Absolutely! Its nice to know the intake system is looked after with the provent.
protip: run new hose towards the radiator along the chassis and strap it to the air deflector under the radiator but out of sight or can't be snagged, it should be about a metre long. this gives you more than 400ml of oil to store in the hose. I also cap off the tap end in case the tap gets turned open and you suck a gutful of dusty air or water if u crossed a river.
Works well.
Thanks for the the video put one in the d max
Hi Nik, Your vids are prof. I really appreciate your work. I have no knowledge about diesel turbo charge engine at all. I am a user, driver. It takes me a while to understand Why? Catch can is use to filter out the incomplete combustion diesel residue from outlet of the engine before it returns back to the combustion again. Catch can filter out more than 350ml for every 10,000km, it helps to avoid the 350ml of dirty oil trap in the combustion chamber and pollute the environment. This is an amazing idea. Every diesel engine should add one of this. Good job Nik. My question was after adding this catch can, is there any affects to the fuel consumption? Better or worst?
Thanks alot! No noticeable effect on fuel consumption.
@@LowRangeNick How long after getting the MUX did you fit the catch can?
@@Mick_4591 30,000km
Hey nick that’s really good to follow up on this to see how it’s performing. I saw your episode where you fitted it and at that time I wasn’t sure about it as I didn’t know how much oil it would take out and I heard that diesels use a bit of oil but what you’ve just shown looks reasonable. I’ve never had a diesel before and my 2WD Dmax now has about 7200kms on it and I’ll probably get the oil changed between services anyway as I do short trips at the moment and probably will be for the next six months. The service intervals at 15000kms seems a bit long anyway what do you think about that ?
I think it's a great idea to change the oil and filter every 10,000km. A catch can would definately look after the intake on your dmax. If you are planning on keeping it long term it is a great investment in the longevity and reliability of your engine. 😊
LowRangeNick ok thanks.
I realised if I ran a tube down from the catch can and into an old oil can (through a sealed union I fitted in its cap) the oil would simply drain down the tube and into the sealed can to collect. This way the (still pressurised by blow by gases in the second stage of the catch-can) oil can simply gravity drain any time whether the engine is running or not.
Great idea!
Interesting to see, Thanks Nick.
How many kms on motor? And do you run it in the higher performance modes much?
It has about 36000km on it now, it's always in the higher performance modes haha but this seems to be very normal catchment from every one i have talked to with the provent fitted. 😊
Thanks for the video Nick. Excuse my ignorance in the following two questions. 1) The hose and fittings into the catch can are quite small so can there be a problem over time as oil residue builds in that line with air flow via the catch can. 2) The DPF is becoming a big issue with class actions already starting, so could adding things such as catch cans into an engine system give manufactures a get out on warranty claims and recalls.
It is not an issues with the catch can hoses as they are an oil resistant rubber. They will last a very very long time. As for Dpf issues, i havnt heard of many Isuzus having dpf issues. I know the toyota 2.8l have alot of issues. As for warranty, the dealer can only legally deny warranty if the modification is the direct cause of an issue or fault. So there shouldnt be any issues in regards to the dpf as the catch can isnt directly related.
Thanks Nick
Its funny how they say this is safe for the engine, even tho they will try and void your warranty if you put a oil catch can on your new car. But if this is shown they should know this saves engines and keep them running for longer.
asking for an advice. how do you reset fuel filter warning light on an mux or dmax?
Hi mate, nice works on your car! Did you get new car? Will the warranty be effected by your modifications?
Warranty wont be affected. Cheers 😊
If you're not pulling that much oil out of yours, congrats, you are running the right oil.
If you are pulling out that much, the oil you are using is too thin.
It's not "the thinner the better," those numbers indicate ambient operating temperatures, in spite of what oil marketing suits tell you.
So unless you're in Tasmania, put the 0w40 back and get 10w50. if it's cold in winter and you drive at night, fine, get some 5wsomething for winter.
The thinner the oil, the more blow by you get. Go as high on the first viscosity/SAE number as your morning commute. That's in Celsius because we're talking about Australia.
Just scored this kit on ebay for $300, special running until 29 Jan.
Hi. Do you have the link? The link given above "Currently Unavailable" / out of stock. Thanks.
The ball valve taps are rubbish. I put this on my car and after about 1000kms noticed a few oil spots on the ground it was the valve leaking. BTW I installed about the same place as u
Can these catch cans cause crank pressure and cause oil leak from dipstick.
That's quite a bit, over 4 x my 3L Prado.
Good stuff Nick. I'm up to my 3rd drain on the dmax. Though I've always wondered if taking the oil out will damage the turbo in anyway as its not getting oil inside of it anymore to lubricate stuff or something.. no weird noises from mine yet so I'm probably all good.
The turbo will be fine. Its got its own oil supply. Pumping oil mist into the intake does not lubricate anything, just clags up the intake and intercooler.
I have just fitted a Provent 200 to my 2018 ISUZU MUX, I used your very instructional video as a guide, Thanks heaps.
I do have a question though,
When I fitted mine, no matter how I routed the hoses, they still seem to touch the intercooler pipe.
The plumbing on the underside of the intercooler pipe pushes the hose to the catch can up.
I decided to wrap some antin friction rubber to the intercooler pipe.
Is this necessary of am I just worrying about nothing?
Cheers
Glen
Hey Glen! My hoses dont touch the intercooler pipe at all. Maybe the bracket holding the catch can is not on the right rung. You can adjust how high or low the catch can sits and the angle it sits on by removing the catch can from the stainless bracket then removing the black plastic mount from the catch can, at the back there is a little plastic locking tab and some rungs were you can adjust it up and down. It might just need a bit more adjusting to get it to sit right.
Glen manning I had the same issue so what I did was rotated the hose anticlockwise on the catch can so it allowed the hose to lay down a bit flatter against the clean/lower hose, that is provided the catch can is in the correct orientation
Hi mate, its ok if i getting more oil than yours in the video? I drain around 3k since I installed it. Thanks
Nick, obviously you did not install the specific mounting and plumping for your wagon. I have the provent as well. Your mounting and plumbing is a pain in ass.
This catch-can thing seems to be really catching on
Hey mate, did you end up getting the reservoir added? - I cant seem to find one for the western filters kit.
Na, I didn't get any extra resivoir added.
Looks good. What does the EGR look like? Any soot build up?
None, because I have the valve electronically shut 😉
@@LowRangeNick Thank you Nick. Are you saying you had your EGR effectively blanked?
@@Hathrandir Yep
@@Hathrandir No he is saying it work fine at a 0% duty cycle :D
Hello Nik. Would fitting catch can void your warranty or is it okay to fit it..The Provent 200 is quite expensive at 370 Dollars..I'm about to pick up a new Mux and this problem has me worried..
Doesn't void warranty and the provent is a quality unit 👍
@@LowRangeNick Thanks for that nick , much appreciated..Love your videos , very informative...
What's your thoughts about older pre egr engine's like my old td42t?
That's a good question. I would still say that it is a great idea to fit a catch can even if you don't have an engine with an egr system as it still prevents the rubber intake hoses from perishing and the intercooler from becoming oil soaked and loosing its efficiency. 😊
I've got a Nissan patrol 04 TD42ti...💪...I put a Pro vent c/can in about 4K ago...250 K on the clock...Filter still clean but starting to get oil in it now...For $300 it's worth putting in...👍🍻😎...
I just bought a D-Max with 100k already on the clock. Is it worth the money and effort to install the catch can, or is it too late to bother now?
That's a great question. Fitting a catch can now is still a good idea. You should also get the intake checked for carbon build up and cleaned if necessary. Fitting the catch can now will prevent any more oil mixing with the egr gas and soot, but there may already be a build up which would need to be cleaned. 😊
@@LowRangeNick thanks!
Good Video. Looks like you are draining about the same amount of oil as I am each 5,000km in my D-Max. I have a Chinese copy of the Provent 200 - it seems to work equally as well - but installing it without a kit was a real pain.
The catch-can has a fine metal mesh filter instead of the paper one in the Provent 200. So occasionally it might need a wash with solvent, instead of having to replace the paper element - not sure if that's good or bad?
If you aren't handy at making metal brackets, buying the appropriate installation kit with the Provent 200 is probably worth the expense.
That's good to know, interesting that they use a metal style washable filter in the copys, i think the provent filter design may be patented. Maybe that is why. There are a few catch cans on the market with washable filters, they seem to work ok.
Hi Nick, once we drained the catch can do we need to top up engine oil ? please advise
You shouldn't need to. But it would be a good time to check the engine oil every time you drain the catch can as general maintenance.
@@LowRangeNick thanks Nick. just drained mine after 5k
Bloody hell, I'm getting close to 4k on mine; might have to check it soon. That's bloody concerning just how much oil is collected hey
Yeah definately worth checking, the provent 200 work really well. It's definately nice knowing its looking after the intake thats for sure.
@@LowRangeNick Dumd question................What would happen if you forgot to drain the catch can and the oil filled up back into the catch can?
@@Mick_4591 Potential runaway briefly at least.
@@mjhmech4903
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At 50T km, I'm a little worried now. Really need to fit a catch can on our mux.
It will be fine, it takes a long time for the oil to cause issues but it will be a good time to start thinking about putting one on 😊👍
@@LowRangeNick thanks for the comforting words.
happy new year from the Philippines. I have the 2.5L 2wd MUX version, non offroader, just for touring duties. Cheers.
should you replace the oil that comes out or does it not effect oil levels between services ?
It will effect engine oil level so it pays to check the level when you drain the catch can.
Will this work with a 2018 d-max 1.9 litre?
You can fit a catch can but you would have to get a kit specifically for that car/ Engine.
Does it make any difference if i have a 2WD, not 4x4? Do you know if there is any difference between the TXC and TC motors. The Provent is advertised for the TXC. Think mine is TC type. 2017 MU-X
It doesnt matter wether its 2wd or 4wd. They are the same engine. I think it will be the same kit that I got for mine! Mines 2018.
@@LowRangeNick hey mate, ordered one today from western filters. looking forward to the install, cheers
Should you clean out your Intercooler?
The catch can will catch and remove the oil from the intake system before it goes through the intercooler. So cleaning out the intercooler isn't necessary.
Lowrangenick what weight oil do you use
I use a 5w30 fully synthetic, dpf compatible oil. I think I will try a 10w40 next though 😊
@@LowRangeNick I'll be curious to see what the difference will be with 10w40 full synthetic
Where can i buy this provent 200 catch can like yours sir? Tqvm
It's a western filters catch can kit. Check out my other video on the install and for more info on how the crank case ventilation system works 😊🛠
Already watch the installation video sir and it's nice, but where can i get it by online purchases?
@@andrelay9427 Perfect! Here's the link, www.westernfilters.net.au/
Tqvm for the link sir!👍
Do we need to change the filter of the catch can? For how many k’s?
Yes, every 40,000 km
Can i ask where you bought it? If online pls comment the link. Thanks a lot. Big help
Hey, been watching your videos. Great job.... one little comment would be is, if you got a wireless mic it would be much better. Rode Wireless GO would be perfect for these presentations. Internal mics of cameras are really not good for much. Good luck
Cheers Peter, i agree a mic would be great. Unfortunately my camera isnt compatible with a mic. I would have to get a new camera. I broke my lense the other day so maybe im up for a newie 😂😂😂
I have one on isuzu and I drank a 140 of out of it every 2000 km and it has 65000 km on it I have let the dealer no at isuzu
Good Video however catch cans are not required. The engine will successfully burn all residue if not captured in a catch can - that's how they are designed.
New engine designed to burn that oil but good to have catch can oil extra fees for owning 4x4
@Tim B Thanks to engineering design they make you pay extra $ for failure in their stupid designs
@Tim B EU can't see losing to Asian car designer
I Nick. I'm from Belgium in Europe and I have an ISUZU DMAX with the same engine as yours. In Europe we have a DPD (diesel particulate defuser) exaust which collect the micro particle in order to reduce the pollution and this DPD have to be regenerated regularly (about each 200 miles) increasing the fuel consummation a lot. I guess that one of the reason of such frequent REGEN process is due to the oil going to the engine cylinder but I would like to have your advice before to install a Catch Can. I'm not sure that you have the same depolution system (perhaps you just have adblue).
More info on DPD here on page 2-73 www.isuzu.co.uk/owners/owners-manuals/isuzu-d-max-2017
So my question is if you have a DPD, did you saw an improvement in the REGEN cycle (less often) after the installation of the Catch Can ?
Thank you for all your video. I'm a fan ! They are very usefull because here in Europe there is almost nothing about ISUZU tutorials.
Jeff
Hey Jeff! My Mu-x is a 2018 DPF model - no adblue. Fitting the catch can I havnt noticed any difference in DPD burn off.
That's a LOT to catch over 9000kms. I'd be wondering why you're getting such bad blow by? I collect not even a quarter of that amount over 10,000kms in my Holden Colorado with over 250,000kms and I have a Provent catch can.
Hi mate..where i can buy that catch can?thanks
Western Filters sell them.
instead of zipties grab some reusable velcro cable straps
U reckon 70k it abit late to fit it
It's never too late 😊
@@LowRangeNick just make a purchase on eBay for 325 💯% provent filter, how much u got your for
@@TriNguyen-qq5ul I paid the same 👍
Each time you drain the catch can, a zip tie drops on the ground like you did in this one 🤔
И что каждый раз так сливать это бред, неправильно приколхозил