Drawing with red chalk: a brief history, pencil recommendations, and figure drawing demo

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  • @Themostrelaxedturtle
    @Themostrelaxedturtle 2 роки тому +7

    I saw a sketch on red chalk and was drawn to its warmth oppossed to graphite, and found this video while trying to find out about sketching tools (absolute beginner here)
    I LOVED this video and the historical background. I am so glad I found your channel

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      I’m glad you found it too! Thanks for watching.

  • @fil2fer1150
    @fil2fer1150 2 роки тому +7

    I was looking through my old art supplies and realised I had already bought the giaconda red chalk and the conté 610. After trying them again, I feel like I'm still struggling with the texture of the conté one but the giaconda feels and looks great. I'm definitely going to try them again, now that I feel more comfident in my drawing skills. The main reason why I didn't persevere with that medium was that you can't really erase a bad stroke.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому +10

      Glad my video prompted you to give them another try, Laurent. Bad strokes don't ruin a drawing. Many old master drawings are full of incorrect lines and corrections. Think of it as allowing your thought process to show through. It will make you less anxious to get every single stroke right, and ultimately lead to less mistakes.

  • @chopsticks51
    @chopsticks51 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for another beautiful and informative video. You always pick such lovely images, they are perfect illustrative examples! Sanguine-inks and hematite pigment based watercolors are also very fun to experiment with and not too much $
    Again thank you for this series on materials and techniques.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  10 місяців тому

      My pleasure! You might also enjoy this video, which demonstrates how red chalk can be used as a wash: Red chalk and wash technique: three approaches
      ua-cam.com/video/8OqMtBLd03k/v-deo.html

  • @greekveteran2715
    @greekveteran2715 Рік тому +3

    I tried other Red Chalk pencils,like the Lyra Samguine(Oil and dry), the Faber Castell Pitt Pastel and the Derwent Drawing Sanguine. The Lyra have nice colour but are too soft. The Faber Castell works better than the Conte but doesn't have the amount of pigment the Conte has. Derwent has a creamy feel,not bad. I agree with your opinion! Kohinoor(oil) and Conte(dry) are the best.I also love the F.Castell pastel and honorable mention goes to Derwent!

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the confirmation! These things are highly subjective and based on the kind of work you do, but nice to know that my conclusions are seconded by others.

  • @f-ms7vs
    @f-ms7vs 6 місяців тому +1

    Comprehensive, charming and informative review. I love how you go into the history of the material as well.
    I have a few queries about the red chalk. Cretacolor and koh inoor manufacture 5.6 mm sticks for lead holders. Koh i Noor has something titled 'sepia russet' is it the same as the pencil?

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching! The red chalk in the Cretacolor and Kohinoor sticks are the same as in the pencils. I haven’t used the Sepia Russet in either pencil or stick, but given that the stick and pencil materials are usually the same, it should also be the case with this material.

  • @mattyepez530
    @mattyepez530 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, this video is so well done and honestly this is exactly what I was looking for since first being intrigued by the medium

  • @IainHirons
    @IainHirons 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the video……very informative about the differences between conte and red chalk or sanguine…….I love drawing with conte…….recently I collected some red pigment from Sidmouth and ground it up to paint with……deep burnt sienna colour…..I’ve now looked on the map and see that they used to mine red chalk in a similar spot……I shall take a trip and see if I can source some to draw with……..cheers…happy drawing

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  9 місяців тому

      Thank you! I’m certain that there is still good quality red chalk out there left to be sourced, but there’s simply a lack of commercial interest to do it.

  • @ashim_dey
    @ashim_dey Рік тому +1

    Very informative. Thanks a lot. Which gioconda pencil are you referring to? Can you be more specific with a little more detail? I want to buy it and need to know the description. TIA.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому +2

      You’re welcome. This pencil is made by Kohinoor hardtmuth and is called Giaconda red chalk.

  • @anjapinkau3737
    @anjapinkau3737 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent informative overview! Thank you!

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      Thank you! Your kind words are appreciated.

  • @cameronscanlan1620
    @cameronscanlan1620 10 місяців тому +2

    I use carbothello 645 and faber-castell pitt pastel 192.
    The pitt is harder, better for details etc.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  10 місяців тому

      Combining red chalks is a sneaky and effective way to go.

  • @chimingchan9038
    @chimingchan9038 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video 👍👍👍👍

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you!

  • @TheHugooo15
    @TheHugooo15 10 місяців тому +1

    So would Cretacolor's oily sanguine be the best? I bought Lyra's because I didn't want a smudged sanguine, but it looks like a waxy colored pencil, and it's not very pigmented. I also think its color is a little red, it looks more like chocolate. Great video!!

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  10 місяців тому

      Thanks! For oil-based sanguine Cretacolor or Kohinoor are great.

  • @ichirofakename
    @ichirofakename 3 роки тому +1

    I cracked up when I saw my favorite color pencil, Polycolor, at the bottom of your ranking. I'm all in for oil pencils. Fascinating comparisons none the less, thanks for the video.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  3 роки тому

      That Polycolor is a popular choice. The color is very nice, but it's just too waxy for my taste. Glad you like the video!

  • @necipdemirbuga7024
    @necipdemirbuga7024 3 роки тому +1

    in germany in Boesner shops you can find the Giocanda, it is a stable

  • @danielchequer5842
    @danielchequer5842 3 роки тому +4

    Loved the video! Red chalk is a considerably unused material and it is hard to find any useful tips about it and not beeing lured into a professional online course. I absolutely fell in love with the medium after getting a book on Michelangelo and I'm currently studying figure drawing with a Derwent Terracota 6400 pencil, and I've bought a Conté kit with the pencil you ranked and some bars. Again, really apreciated the video and thank you very much!

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  3 роки тому +2

      You're welcome, Daniel! I'm glad you found my video useful.

  • @at8630
    @at8630 Рік тому +1

    Very informative video. Could you elaborate a little on paper surfaces and effects with chalk?

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому

      Thanks! I’ll have to do some videos on drawing papers.

    • @at8630
      @at8630 Рік тому +1

      @@mkompan I purchased your two favorite pencils today. Proof your videos motivate and inspire. :)

    • @greekveteran2715
      @greekveteran2715 Рік тому +2

      @@at8630 Koh-i-noor offers the Red Chalk in 5.6mm leads! Add their 5340 lead holder and you have the Perfect and most precise sketching/drawing Red chalk pencil on the market!!! PS I use the common M&R metal sharpener,that comes in a small plastic box which also carries 2 extra blades on the bottom part! You need a good common size sharpener like that and you're set for literally endless drawing! I use it very often for years and I'm still on the 1st lead!!

  • @wesleyyoung4063
    @wesleyyoung4063 2 роки тому +2

    Where do you buy individual gicondaroga pencils? I can only find them in sets with other pencils

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      www.amazon.com/Koh-I-Noor-Gioconda-Chalk-Pencil-FA8800-RC/dp/B072F3GVT6

  • @russellfacemire
    @russellfacemire 2 роки тому +2

    So, I just found this video, and I was wondering whether you'd heard of Pipo's "Authentic Renaissance" Sanguine chalk. It's made by one guy in North Carolina, and I found it much more pleasant to work with than any of the pencils I've bought in my life. Regardless, really appreciate your video, and your pencil drawings on your site are fantastic!

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому +2

      You know, I ran across this product in my research for the video. The story behind it sounds enticing, but I didn’t see any reviews of it anywhere, so I didn’t buy it. It’s certainly not “authentic” since it’s a synthetic product like Conte, and not naturally occurring hematite. I’m a sucker for new materials, however, so I’ll give it a shot, and perhaps make a review.

    • @russellfacemire
      @russellfacemire 2 роки тому +2

      @@mkompan it's not perfect (and definitely not authentic! ) but I've found it worthwhile. The biggest critique I have is that it is very finicky about paper, and seems to require a certain amount of tooth to make its marks. But I have a strange love for finicky drawing materials, so I enjoy it!

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому +2

      @@russellfacemire I like my difficult art materials too, so it sounds like it’s right up my alley. Paper is the great unspoken factor in drawing, and more attention needs to be paid to it. Actually, that sounds like a great idea for a video…

  • @dawnholder8819
    @dawnholder8819 2 роки тому +2

    Great video! I am curious if you have ever tried to find a fountain pen ink that is the color of red chalk.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Why yes, I have. I think Diamine Terracotta is close match. Montblanc used to make a color (or perhaps it was a limited run) called Red Chalk. I would love to get my hands on some.

    • @dawnholder8819
      @dawnholder8819 2 роки тому

      @@mkompan I've heard of the Montblanc Red Chalk and I think it was a limited edition, sadly. I haven't tried Diamine Terracotta, but I do have Ancient Copper and Burnt Sienna (both sort of close). The closest I've found (in my short search) is Private Reserve Vampire Red. It's a nice earthy color.

    • @dawnholder8819
      @dawnholder8819 2 роки тому +1

      Just looked on Goulet Pens and their swatch of Vampire Red is deeper and more of a cool red than what i actually get. Interesting.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      @@dawnholder8819 red chalk came in a variety of colors, so there’s no such thing as an exact match. I also really like deAtramentis dark red. It’s a little on the darker, purplish side, but is still pretty close to some types of red chalk. And it’s waterproof, which allows you to add wash to it.

  • @AnthonyGeorge-w2t
    @AnthonyGeorge-w2t Рік тому +1

    Is the red quarry material useful tor drawing

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому

      you can buy natural sanguine from a number of online stores, including Jackson art supply. but It's usually so full of grit tat it's almost unusable for drawing.

  • @Ididnahthither
    @Ididnahthither 2 роки тому +1

    Good video, appreciate.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      You’re welcome!

  • @danielmcgill3234
    @danielmcgill3234 2 роки тому

    A little tidbit of information about the raw red chalk…it is supposed to be ground up and mixed with water to remove the impurities.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      If true that would not be tidbit, but an important piece of information, requiring an addendum to my video. Where did you learn this? Would love to learn more about this process.

  • @vonkarbel
    @vonkarbel 3 роки тому

    Thanks a lot for the video.
    Can you please name the artists who used red chalk and were mentioned at the beginning. Thanks in advance.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  3 роки тому +1

      I just listed them in the video description.

    • @vonkarbel
      @vonkarbel 3 роки тому

      Can you please mention the artist who drew the landscape at 3:19.
      Thanks in advance.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  3 роки тому +1

      @@vonkarbel That drawing is by Fragonard

    • @vonkarbel
      @vonkarbel 3 роки тому +1

      Got it, 😂
      Ruins of an imperial palace, Rome
      Fragonard 1759

  • @HNLinh
    @HNLinh 2 роки тому

    Excuse me sir, where can I purchase the whole Sanguine in this video in Germany? Thanks sir.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому +1

      I'm sorry, but I live in the U.S. and just don't know. There's a Facebook group called "Old Master Painting and Drawing Techniques," that is a fantastic source for such information. Perhaps there's a German language equivalent?

    • @HNLinh
      @HNLinh 2 роки тому +1

      @@mkompan Thanks Sir

  • @nickrodis6862
    @nickrodis6862 Рік тому +1

    Thank you

  • @bostonblackie9503
    @bostonblackie9503 Рік тому

    You don't give the number of Carbothelo?! PS: They do have names not on the pencil but on the chart

  • @Fenristripplex
    @Fenristripplex 2 роки тому

    Where did you get your natural red chalk?

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  2 роки тому

      I believe it was bought from Kremer pigments years ago, but they no longer carry it.

  • @gwenhutson
    @gwenhutson 2 роки тому

    I would love your chart, but I can’t read your writing….

  • @susancarr9955
    @susancarr9955 Рік тому

    Your video makes it seem like Western art was the be all and end all of all art. Was red chalk used in places like India or China or on the African continent? If iron oxide was so common, then they must have had it there, right? What's the story on that?

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому +2

      You make a valid point. I’m
      committed to inclusivity and diversity, and try to incorporate non-western art-making traditions into my college classes. The difficulty is that much of the basis modern artistic training is heavily Eurocentric and it’s a struggle to find the balance between inclusivity and the need to teach students according to prevailing western standards.
      Iron oxide pigmentswere the earliest and most common form of reds, browns and yellows, so certainly yes, they were used in paint around the world for thousand of years. The use of red chalk on paper for representational drawing comes down to us from a specific time and place however, and it’s important for developing artists to be aware of this legacy.
      That said, I will try to include non-western examples in future videos. Thanks for your comment!

  • @caterinabarbati7195
    @caterinabarbati7195 Рік тому +1

    You speak too fast. I do not understand everything...it’s really a shame!😢

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому +1

      Sorry. 🥺

    • @carloszenteno
      @carloszenteno Рік тому +2

      You could try to play the video at a slower speed, maybe then you can understand more of it. In settings, the cog in the bottom right of the video, click it, and then playback speed.

    • @mkompan
      @mkompan  Рік тому +1

      @@carloszenteno I find that turning on the captions also helps. I’ve tried them and they’re actually remarkably accurate.

    • @carloszenteno
      @carloszenteno Рік тому

      @@mkompan yes, that's pretty good too. And you can stop the video yo finish the captions if they're too fast too.