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Red chalk and wash technique: three approaches
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2023
- In this video I demonstrate an unusual technique, combing conte red chalk pencil with wash. I show you three approaches to this technique and show you a few example of how they were used by the old masters.
Material used in the demo:
Conte Sanguine pencil
Wolff's Carbon Pencil 3B
Escoda Optimo Kolinsky No. 6
Talens Art Creations sketchbook (for sphere demo's)
Art Alternatives Sketchbook (for figure drawings)
Hello Marc, I think I have found what I want to be my niche with large thanks to you and your videos. I am sixty-four and semi-retired. When I was young, I had basic art talent and was good at portrait drawing. I was always a drawer and told myself that I might finally try painting when I retire as I didn’t do much art to speak of in my working years save for some graphic art, poetry, and writing. Well, I tried painting and didn’t like it much, and all the old feelings about why I was a drawer in the first place came back to me.
This isn’t very opened-minded or experimental of me as you would like your students to be, but I just wanted to find that niche, something I was already good at, master it, and create a series of frameable drawings, 11x14, to spend some time on and feel good about. I wanted to draw Indians and other exotic people, mostly. “Indians, Gypsies, and other Tribes People” Well, I think I’ve got it!
I believe I am going to settle on the four Conte chalk pencils that come in a package of six or eight: Noir, Sepia, Sanguin, and white with the addition of your favorite Noor Red Chalk pencil and an Ivory of some kind, yet to be chosen. All this will become my “six color” process on your steel gray paper. How does this sound? I think I will get a lot of mileage from these choices. There may be a little wiggle room to try different brands and papers within this color scheme. I will still probably be asking a few questions. Thanks for your help, Teacher! Jolene.
Hi Jolene,
How wonderful that you're able to return back to art making!
I don't think there's anything wrong in working in a niche and honing one's craft, especially since there's so much exploration that can be done with just with those limited materials. It's surprising what a difference can be made in order you do things, or how the pencils are sharpened, or the direction you shade. And just one switch in materials can often make a world of difference.
I think working with six color is a great way to go. I have videos where I used pastel pencils on steel grey paper. I you haven't;s ben them, perhaps you might find them interesting.
It's very informative! I like the elegant appearance and I am going to try it.
Thank you!
That was definitely worth 7 minutes of my day, thank you!
My pleasure! Glad you found this worthwhile viewing.
Hi Mark! I loved this little presentation of yours. Short, sweet but so full of useful information. Can’t wait to give it a try. I’ve been producing for years, and nothing is cooler than learning something new like this. Glad I stumbled onto your vid. Thanks!!!
We’ll, thank you! These short lessons are fun and easy to make and I’m glad they’re being enjoyed. More to come!
Fascinating video. What makes it even better is that I can try out my underutilised and least favourite chalk/carbon pencils and watercolours to see how they do. Combining experimenting without having to buy more stuff is going to make me happy and I can see an enjoyable weekend ahead. Thanks again for another dose of inspiration.
Thanks! I like doing short little videos on unusual techniques. More to come!
@@mkompan I am happy to report that two inexpensive brands - Lyra and Daler- Rowney- that lay disused work really well with this technique. Using a waterbrush worked well too. Many thanks and I look forward to the next experiment.
@@atelierthhun1165 great! I actually use a water brush to do this technique all the time, but didn’t feel like including it, because then I’d have to explain how to use it in the video.
I am beginning to regret going into sociology when I could be doing art history :( These techniques are really cool!!
The grass is always greener. :) Do both! Art history informed by sociology would fascinating.
Marc, red chalk and water were also used to counterproof a drawing in the preparation for a print, or after finishing a drawing to keep a copy in the atelier for reference. Such an Abklatsch could even be reworked by the artist.
Thanks for the extra info!
That’s a good point! I was thinking of including counter-proofing in this video, but chose not to because I believe it required a printing press. Am I mistaken? Is there a way to do it by hand?
@@mkompan It's worth a try-out! I have no idea. Wetting the red chalk drawing and a second sheet of paper and putting them through a press is indeed the usual method.
@@renskee.jellema8697 I’ll try it! Perhaps some felt, a rolling pin and my body weight will work. :)
Thank you for sharing this technique. I am a novice to much of this, which makes it exciting and free of judgement.
You’re welcome!
Awesome technique, I love all kinds of Art. Thank you for using one of my piano pieces 🙏🏻
Thanks Mario! Your interpretation/variations of Scarlatti are wonderful, and I’m glad I could include a small portion of your music in my video.
This was inspiring!
Thanks!
What a classic masterpiece, thank you
Thank you!
Very interesting subject. Thank you Marc for sharing your knowledge and experiment.
Thank you Linda!
Would love to see a whole series of videos teaching how to master the sanguine techniques
Sure! Have you seen my two other videos, one on red chalk, the other on the three crayon technique, which includes red chalk?
@@mkompan watched all of them I even bought the Gioconda sanguine because of you. I tried using the conte pencil before but I didn't like it and keep using the sanguine block/stick. Until I saw your video and fell in love with the Gioconda sanguine pencil
As a note, I found that you could also add more contrast by using noodlers "walnut" ink and washing it a bit using a water brush.
Good note! There are lots of potential variations with this technique. It also works well on toned paper, with the addition of white chalk or gouache.
so cool
Thank you!
Thank you for making this video!! I'm ordering the Pierre Noirs and the Conte Sanguine and white. I hope their white pencil works, because any other I tried, wasn't.
You’re welcome? How did the white pencils you’ve tried not work?
@@mkompan They are too had and too transparent. Almost no white at all, even on toned paper. I've tried Polychromos and Polycolor Titanium white. Both similar. I'm ordering as I write the Derwent Blendable Watercolour Pencil 72, the Conte white and the Generals Charcoal white. I need one with some oil for my Red Chalk sketches and 1 that can blend with charcoal and graphite drawings.
@@greekveteran2715 the polychromos is a wax/oil based pencil and is very transparent. Chalk based pencil, such as the Conte is much more opaque and work better on toned paper. That said, for truly strong whites the best option is a color pastel. Rembrandt pastels are relatively inexpensive. You can use the white pencils for most of your work, and then reinforce the highlights with the pastel. Works great!
@@mkompan They have the Rembrandt white soft pastel. I'll get that too! You saved my order, I was ready to hit the order button! Thank you very, very much!!!!
Thank you very much! I'll try the Conte Carre white chalk! Happy Christmas holidays, for you and your family!@@michelleperri5789
Great material! Thanks ! I already tried red chalk and liked it - painted a reproduction. It is a little more difficult to draw compared to pencils .
Thanks! It does require some proficiency with a brush. I have a few videos on wash techniques if you need it.
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very good combination of red and black. i personally prefer the washes on normal paper since stumps tend to level the soft tooth.
Thanks. I’m not a fan of the stump in general, so the use of washes for me is preferable.
Congratulations for spreading a little-known but very interesting technique, especially for its advantages compared to the classic stump blending. I wanted to ask you how you go about sharpening Conté pencils to have such a sharp point without broke it. Do you use a knife? Thanks in advanced.
Thank you! Here’s a tutorial on how I sharpen charcoal pencils. The same technique applies to Conte: ua-cam.com/video/XniQ-Clb2Nk/v-deo.htmlsi=5054bs34YVelBsDQ
Very helpful. I am off to my studio to try it out. Suggest you dont read your videos, just be yourself….👍🏻
Thanks. I understand that scripted videos are not to everyone’s taste, but for me it’s more efficient, since I tend to stumble or digress when speaking on the fly.
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Hello Professor, three crayon technique and it's variations are my favorite along with pen and ink. It is amazing to see how to extend those techniques. How useful and inspirational, I love it.
By the way, do you ever use stick chalk crayons? I like to use them for lousy, expressive sketches. Even, there are water soluble ones by Staedtler, this video instantly reminded me of those...
Thanks!
My style is tight and linear, so sticks aren’t for me, but they are fun for super loose stuff, especially in a large format.
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Do you find your red chalk pencil is better than a traditional Conté Crayon? I struggled and eventually gave up trying to control the latter. Similarly I love the look of raw charcoal, but can't deal with the mess.
They’re the same material, just in a different format. My style is linear, so I need my drawing materials to be pointy. Sharpening a stick is wasteful, so I prefer pencils.
Paper is a huge consideration when it comes to control, especially when dealing with chalky materials. If you’re having a hard time controlling raw charcoal (and by raw, I assume you’re talking about vine charcoal), then you can try toothier papers. I find arches cover white is very good for charcoal. It a printmaking paper that’s very toothy, and easy to work with.
Is your red chalk pencil wax based like the crayons are.
I believe the Conte red chalk I’m using here does contain wax, but it’s not nearly as waxy/oily as some of the wax based red chalk pencils I sometimes use. Those will not work with this technique.
Any thoughts on using watercolor pencils and washing them ? I’ve used wax pencils and typically use Gamsol to blend. The whole hatching and wash has me excited too.
I haven’t tried every brand, but generally I find them too water soluble for this technique, with the lines washing away. Not that they aren’t effective, only the order of doing things would have to be different.
Hello again Marc. Will this technique work with a vast array of colored chalk pencils.
I just did a quick test with Faber Castell Pitt pastels and it works, though perhaps not quite as well.
They don't seem to make a lot of colors in the chalk pencils, just the sketch colors.
@@jolenedelilys2589 Perhaps, but there's nothing special about the formulation of these pencils, so I think it's safe to say that other brands ill behave similarly.
dude your name means bolita de azucar con frutos secos en cataluña
De verdad? Como se llamen esas cosas en Catalán? Cuando conocí a mi esposa que es de España me dijo que mi nombre sonaba Catalán
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what happened to your eyebrows?
I sacrificed them for my genius. :)
@@mkompan lol, thats what happened to the hair i once had on my head. your art is incredible btw. 👍🏼
@@johnwallace8713 thank you sir!