The current state of TImeless.

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  • Опубліковано 22 гру 2024

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  • @SupremeDirt
    @SupremeDirt 6 місяців тому +86

    my heart sinking at the state of modern when you say it doesn''t have reanimate *yet*..

  • @Dumb-bejad007
    @Dumb-bejad007 6 місяців тому +152

    Timeless feels like casual Yu-Gi-Oh with these elemental handtraps

    • @Dumb-bejad007
      @Dumb-bejad007 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@JohnSmith-rr3jtahh i forgot some of them are standard legal lmao

    • @raymondhorn1052
      @raymondhorn1052 6 місяців тому +9

      Which ones are standard legal? Are we talking about the evoke elementals?

    • @omegaxtrigun
      @omegaxtrigun 6 місяців тому +49

      @@JohnSmith-rr3jtYou must have never played ygo. Standard mtg is nowhere near that level of solitaire.

    • @TheEvolver311
      @TheEvolver311 6 місяців тому +11

      This doesn't feel like Yugioh at all lol

    • @rayzhang7591
      @rayzhang7591 6 місяців тому +36

      Mtg player whenever there’s something stronger than a two mana 2/2: the game is turning into yugioh!

  • @victoriachusin2944
    @victoriachusin2944 6 місяців тому +44

    "Gotta pay the troll toll"
    Great joke! Legend is an always sunny guy, who knew?

    • @johndoe9343
      @johndoe9343 6 місяців тому +9

      Sometimes the opponent has to scoop, because of the implication.

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 6 місяців тому +3

      Gotta pay the troll toll to get into this boy's hole

    • @jackburdette8683
      @jackburdette8683 6 місяців тому +6

      He’s an expert in bird law too.

    • @jweezy5490
      @jweezy5490 6 місяців тому

      This is the Game of Games

  • @CyberBuster93
    @CyberBuster93 6 місяців тому +24

    Wow, this is nearly 1 for 1 a Rakdos Scam list in Modern, prior to Fury's banning of course.
    I know Timeless is suppose to be absolutely pushed digital format, but damn. This deck goes insane!
    Awesome job as usual, Luca! Appreciate you tons! 🤘

  • @jonasdietrich8109
    @jonasdietrich8109 6 місяців тому

    Outstanding video! I love how not just play the deck, but rather speak out the possibilites and thouhgts that run through your head, This really helps the viewer understand the dynamics of the deck.

  • @mr.marker6449
    @mr.marker6449 6 місяців тому +11

    I’ve always wanted to see this deck in action

  • @colinmckhann9363
    @colinmckhann9363 6 місяців тому +4

    8:24 I think it is better to do it from your graveyard since it can be saved with undying evil/not dead after all if you were to draw it. I’ve seen a few opponents accidentally give me a free fury because of this

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, it potentially came up for the opponent in another game.

  • @thcdreams654
    @thcdreams654 6 місяців тому +3

    The retro frames are pretty. Brings me back to my childhood, though I would be too broke to play most of these cards. Thanks for the awesome content.

  • @mantidream8179
    @mantidream8179 6 місяців тому +13

    Fury is such a beast in this deck, and in this format. 4 damage split as you see fit is, with all these powerful monkeys and orcs running around, more often than not a 2 or 3 for one, and getting the double-striker body back immediatly is just insane.

  • @Sir_Master
    @Sir_Master 6 місяців тому +21

    Out of curiosity, what sorts of decks do you like to play when you’re not recording, just playing for fun?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +106

      The trick is I'm always recording.

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 6 місяців тому

      @@LegenVD😂😂😂

  • @sancarlos4
    @sancarlos4 6 місяців тому +1

    Awesome video! Worth noting that you kept mentioning ranimating amped raptors or hitting them off Ragavan etc, but it only gets the "cascade" effect when cast from hand, reanimating it would just give you enrgy

  • @bgammax5842
    @bgammax5842 6 місяців тому +10

    I will always love the unique deck names that come from MTG

  • @Venomenn
    @Venomenn 6 місяців тому +2

    I feel like people tremble when they the name of their opponent: LegenVD.

  • @Kevin3826
    @Kevin3826 6 місяців тому +10

    Love playing this deck! I tech in 2 Bonecrusher Giants for winning the value war in the mirror match and for killing all the pesky 2 toughness creatures running around.

    • @khepri3266
      @khepri3266 6 місяців тому +5

      I too am a Bonecrusher Giant enjoyer

    • @thcdreams654
      @thcdreams654 6 місяців тому

      Who doesn't enjoy a good bone?

  • @johndoe9343
    @johndoe9343 6 місяців тому +1

    I wonder what other TCGs with digital clients are doing this.
    Rakdos Scam did well in paper, then got a ban. Now Arena just got the pieces for Rakdos Scam. Likewise, in Yugioh, TCG (format, in paper) strategies like Tear dominated then got hit with bans over time. Then Master Duel got their own turn at Tear for a while as well.

  • @jonasdietrich8109
    @jonasdietrich8109 6 місяців тому

    What do you think about similar lists that run a playset of both "Nethergoyf" and "Mishra's Bauble"?

  • @Etchatlon
    @Etchatlon 6 місяців тому

    @legenvd great video! really helped alot with the mulligan strategy and the gameplan. Do you feel the lack of bowmaster in teh deck or fury makes it redundant?

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому

      Indeed, Fury replaced it for me as they fill a similar role. Could still be a great sideboard card against decks with Brainstorm or lots of small creatures.

  • @MrOmniversity
    @MrOmniversity 6 місяців тому

    Any control decks coming soon in timeless?

  • @DanyF02
    @DanyF02 6 місяців тому

    37:37 Looks like he didn't want to show and tell you about the show and tell as it turns out.

  • @spansetelectronicmixes
    @spansetelectronicmixes 6 місяців тому

    So that's why today everyone was playing this deck. I had never seen the card called Grief and today I have seen it a lot of times

    • @BlazingSerenade
      @BlazingSerenade 5 місяців тому

      the deck is well known in modern and legacy, as much as I love LVD he did not come up with the deck

  • @sportscardsincali9210
    @sportscardsincali9210 6 місяців тому

    What are your settings , because everytime I cast grief for evoke I can’t cast not dead after all even if I have mana open

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +1

      Need to make sure you have full control enabled for those turns, pressing "ctrl" or "ctrl+shift" will do that for you.

  • @PaulOfTarsus777
    @PaulOfTarsus777 6 місяців тому

    Approach was broken for me. Cast it, redrew it and cast it but it was countered. My understanding is if you cast the second one, even if its countered, you win. But I didn't

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +1

      You got it backwards. If they counter it the first time but the second one resolves you still win.

    • @PaulOfTarsus777
      @PaulOfTarsus777 6 місяців тому

      @@LegenVD Thanks. Thought I read it wrong

  • @matecogido
    @matecogido 6 місяців тому

    I'm playing a version with dark ritual necrodominance and flare of malice

  • @spuds4ever
    @spuds4ever 6 місяців тому

    I’ve gotta say that scam feels much less oppressive in timeless than in modern, I think mostly because of Lurrus and phlage which really offset the card disadvantage from scam. Lurrus zoo has felt like it has a positive match up against scam, with lots of high toughness. Also, scam can’t play the broken raptor either.

  • @miguelnosesabe8216
    @miguelnosesabe8216 6 місяців тому

    bro how you get furys for example, with mh3 or with wildcards?

    • @eatachodeutube
      @eatachodeutube 6 місяців тому +1

      The whole cycle of evoke elementals are in the "special guest" slot in MH3, so they do show up in packs but very rarely.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +5

      Opened around 100 packs and only got one evoke elemental. So mostly wildcards.

    • @miguelnosesabe8216
      @miguelnosesabe8216 6 місяців тому +1

      @@LegenVD oh thx bro

  • @christiank7679
    @christiank7679 6 місяців тому

    I really appreciated 39:40 - 39:53 😄

  • @NateBullock-ow6on
    @NateBullock-ow6on 4 місяці тому

    Awesome deck timeless looks cool

  • @aR0ttenBANANA
    @aR0ttenBANANA 6 місяців тому

    I love going from Modern where Fury is banned to getting fuckin FURY'd in Timeless. Class move from WotC.

  • @True_Ronin
    @True_Ronin 6 місяців тому +26

    As oppressive as scam is… I’d rather play against this than Show N Tell garbage or “winconless” Azorious Control.

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 6 місяців тому +7

      Show and tell is acceptable and has plenty of counters.
      Azorius just ruins the game.

    • @True_Ronin
      @True_Ronin 6 місяців тому +1

      @@anannoyedpandajust wish it was restricted like D Tutor, etc. Depending on your colors and strategy keeping 3cmc I win cards at bay can be difficult.

    • @gurrekurre1726
      @gurrekurre1726 6 місяців тому +2

      Nice, i love playing my azorius control show and tell :')

  • @vumasster
    @vumasster 6 місяців тому +2

    Happy Rebell Son noises

  • @Unbricked13
    @Unbricked13 6 місяців тому

    I want to build this deck but it costs a lot of wildcards for someone who only started playing 2 months ago.

  • @korvuskorax4170
    @korvuskorax4170 6 місяців тому

    Weird, when you copied Fury at 9:06 it changed into the copy your opponent was playing, wonder what happened there

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +2

      I think it's because the default art coded in the game is the special guest full art version.
      The retro frame is a cosmetic, which doesn't get applied to copies.

  • @FaithSRB
    @FaithSRB 6 місяців тому

    Yeah not killing the kiki jiki game 1 is dangerous you cant let that card untap but it didnt matter in the end

  • @pluckstrummer
    @pluckstrummer 6 місяців тому +1

    All these Timeless decks seem like a scam to me. Interesting to see how they work.

  • @Skyhighjettalone
    @Skyhighjettalone 6 місяців тому +2

    Its telling when the bird part of a bolt the bird meta is a monkey

    • @yeetus333
      @yeetus333 6 місяців тому

      bolt the bird < fury the monkey

  • @starmanda88
    @starmanda88 6 місяців тому

    This deck is a true menace. Just unreal. Thanks for the showcase LVD!

  • @CodfishJoe
    @CodfishJoe 6 місяців тому

    24:55 Flameo.

  • @theaeskey2502
    @theaeskey2502 5 місяців тому

    Fully don’t understand why they banned this in paper only to turn around and port it over to arena…. 🤦‍♀️ with UPGRADES in the form of reanimate at that. 🤦‍♀️

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  5 місяців тому +1

      Welcome back!

    • @theaeskey2502
      @theaeskey2502 5 місяців тому

      @@LegenVD hey. Hope you’re doing well.

  • @Merit_Liege
    @Merit_Liege 6 місяців тому

    "I Prefer this Art" yeeesh... nice title🤣

  • @alexandermuller8587
    @alexandermuller8587 6 місяців тому

    Nice

  • @wwemonkey619
    @wwemonkey619 5 місяців тому

    I maindeck roiling vortex just for stuff like this

  • @pastapockets984
    @pastapockets984 6 місяців тому

    At this point I can't even imagine what the new player experience is like.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, it's rough.

    • @vvv7696
      @vvv7696 6 місяців тому

      Why the hell would a new player play timeless?

  • @benpaschke9193
    @benpaschke9193 6 місяців тому

    This set broke arena

    • @XenoGuru
      @XenoGuru 5 місяців тому

      The elementals completely changed modern when they were released. It's no surprise that it's done it here too.

  • @tor2886
    @tor2886 4 місяці тому

    Grief 100% needs a ban in timeless. Absolutely miserable design.

  • @tristonshelley96
    @tristonshelley96 5 місяців тому

    just run leyline of sanctity. kinda makes like 70% of the deck useless

  • @afriendofafriend5766
    @afriendofafriend5766 5 місяців тому

    Am I crazy for thinking this is an interesting matchup

  • @CanadianOreoable
    @CanadianOreoable 6 місяців тому +13

    I love how the term scam first came from people thinking that this deck wasn't competitive and purchasing it was a scam and has since come to mean returning a creature from the graveyard to the battlefield when it dies

    • @CountNikiko
      @CountNikiko 6 місяців тому +7

      It was always scamming creatures out lol

    • @TheSmartCinema
      @TheSmartCinema 6 місяців тому +5

      what a weird claim lol never heard of anything like that

    • @CanadianOreoable
      @CanadianOreoable 6 місяців тому +2

      @@TheSmartCinema it was brought up on an Aspiring Spike stream a while ago. The deck started as WB using ephemerate alongside undying effects but the deck didn't do anything meaningful in the format so it was a scam to run the deck. The name carried over to the BR version when it transitioned to running Fury, Ragavan, Bolt, etc. then just became shorthand for undying effects.

    • @lexist7
      @lexist7 6 місяців тому +2

      Just because it came out on spike’s stream doesn’t mean it’s true. Imagine that.

    • @CanadianOreoable
      @CanadianOreoable 6 місяців тому

      @@lexist7 I guess that's true but it is one way to trace the etymology of the term as opposed to the nothing that you have offered

  • @th3TwistedLight
    @th3TwistedLight 6 місяців тому +4

    Man I'm glad I only play Brawl these days, not even touching 60 card formats at all. too much nonsense. tbh there's too much nonsense in Brawl too, but it's fun nonsense at least

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 місяців тому +11

      *And then there was Nadu*

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Zevox144*bald eagle screeches in the distance*.

    • @th3TwistedLight
      @th3TwistedLight 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Zevox144 I just instant concede, I'm not sitting through their 17 hour turns

    • @Zevox144
      @Zevox144 6 місяців тому

      @@th3TwistedLight Honestly i can't judge them too harshly, turns for land sacrifice korvold and necrobloom get kinda long. But the pop off isn't practically guaranteed at least.

    • @MelficeN7
      @MelficeN7 6 місяців тому +3

      @@th3TwistedLight "too much nonsense" "I just instant concede" yeah right brawl is sooo much better my guy.

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki 13 днів тому

    This format gives me diarrhea.

  • @nitiratp
    @nitiratp 6 місяців тому

    Disgusting xD

  • @Jejfimwianfn
    @Jejfimwianfn 6 місяців тому

    "i prefer this art" and the proceeds to play the card with the worst frame imaginable... I'm not angy, just disappointed

  • @ellblell59
    @ellblell59 6 місяців тому +2

    First game scamming grief instead of fury on that Ragavan was almost assuredly way better

    • @Lionbug
      @Lionbug 6 місяців тому +23

      No black cards.

    • @ellblell59
      @ellblell59 6 місяців тому +1

      XD whoops