Should we be Designing for Climate Change?
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Students of Geoff’s Online Permaculture Design Course have question-and-answer sessions where Geoff fields a number of questions every week and answers them via videos. This question was pulled from the 2021 collection. For more permaculture insights, check out Geoff’s free Masterclass www.discoverpermaculture.com
Question
With climate change a reality we need to face, should we be designing based on future temperatures and selecting plant species that can tolerate a hotter climate? Can good design help us soften the blow of climate change?
Key Takeaways
- Climate change can be quite natural, with animals migrating to different places and weather growing colder or windier or wetter.
- The approach is to go for diversity, stretching on all sides of the local climate, and focus on perennials along with annuals.
- With diversity, we can ensure that some things, although not all things, are suited for this year’s weather and will thrive. We always get a yield.
- It doesn’t damage local ecosystems but enhances them because they are not prejudice to interesting foreign species joining the party and making it more diverse.
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Just like eating with the seasons, we plant and eat with the climate for sure. I use to struggle with what to plant here in Arizona but since I changed my thinking and started to do what was described in this video a few years back it has made a world of difference. Another great video Geoff! Shalom
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Somethings to plant in the Arizona bad lands; Prickly pear, honey mesquite, figs, wolfberry, gojiberry, sage, 4 wing saltbush, new mexico privet, pinyon pine, afghan pine, apache plume, rabbitbrush, utah juniper, siberian elm , russian olive, new mexico locust, italian stone pine, mountain or desert mahogany, sainfoin, hairy vetch.
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I love Fresh Figs
Can I grow , in Temperates Climates ❓
Try Chicago Hardy Fig variety
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Thanks 👍
I will definitely try
I wish you'd address the philosophy that underlies so many of these questions. There is no such thing as stasis in nature, nor is nature "perfect" human intervention in the environment isn't inherently evil or detrimental and in fact as with how you're demonstrating, human intervention can widen a knife edge into a comfortable plateau which itself is better for the ecosystem around it. with the observation and react model embedded within permaculture, there's really no way you can do harm on any grand scale and "succession" will kill off any plant not suited to the bed it finds itself within. And the person asking this question needs to get over their existential guilt.
Some non-native plants are bad for the new ecosystems they find themselves in. For example, Himalayan Balsam in Britain. How can it be bad, it's adding diversity? The trouble is it doesn't add diversity, it reduces it by shading everything else out, and because it grows on river banks and dies back in the winter (leaving no supporting roots to hold the soil together) it causes erosion. Unless one wants to spin river bank erosion as a neutral or even good thing (it will be creating a different environment, but it's one that is undesirable for humans and other annual plants in the area) then I would like to see an acknowledgement that the wrong plant in the wrong place CAN be negative for an ecosystem. Though yes, broadly speaking I think the question writer is agonising too much over the issue of introducing species which may cope better with predicted future climate conditions. There are two questions which I think are important; will the new variety cause an undesirable effect for humans or wildlife, and can it be brought into the country/grown in the country without a high risk of importing diseases? If the answers are no, then go right ahead- it can't be unethical to have productive or simply healthy plants which are beneficial to humans (in a sustainable sense) and play a mutually beneficial role in their new ecosystem.
@@danyoutube7491 "... observation and react..." not only would you not do it again, you wouldn't do so in the first place because you'd be matching plants to habitat. stopping erosion's a bit thing in regrarian farming and permaculture; you want all the roots.
@@TheKlink Sorry about that, you are right; I didn't read your full post/comment thoroughly enough. I didn't absorb all of it and reduced it in my mind to saying that "there isn't a problem with any foreign plant brought into a country, end of story".
@@danyoutube7491 no worries. I think we're actually on the same page, or atleast nearby, and these are quite thicc concepts, it's good to parse them out.
Oh the question of what we do in our gardens, unless we bring in invasive species then almost anything we do that causes more plant growth will be good. On the question of climate change overall, even if nature was causing it this time around the results could still be very bad for many species on the planet. For humans to contribute to the planet becoming several degrees warmer and justify it in any way would be extremely foolish.
So on an individual, garden level, great video. But if anyone is using this to justify continuing to contribute to climate change, they are taking the video out of context.
Ha! You just explained why commodities markets (and governments) don't like Permaculture: the variety of crops changes from year to year. With chemicals, markets know what to expect, and governments bank on that.
We love this! Plant diverse plants. Thank you for this!
Precisely! From both written and archeological records, we know that during the Ancient Roman occupation of Europe, apricot trees were grown commercially in Denmark. Apricots a commercial scale won't survive any further north than the South of France, nowadays. This old world has been both hotter and colder. There are woodcuts of enormous wagons drawn by teams of four draft horses hauling loads down the Thames, which never freezes nowadays. Even in Germany, you would have a hard time finding a river as deep with a current as strong as the Thames that freezes solid enough for horse traffic. We'll be fine. The biome will shift and change and adapt, just as it has done for millennia. Love your information, keep up the good work.
We've even have paintings that confirm it. We also know that in medieval times there were vineyards in Belgium.
I’m sure you know more than thousands of climate scientists who say this shift is happening too fast to adapt.
@@BittyVids 😅 No I don’t claim to know more than the scientists! My son is a biological scientist, so I’m very clear about how much I DON’T know. However, this is the first time that the tipping point in a climate shift has ever been observed by modern scientists. We don’t know for sure how it happened in the past (although we have pretty good evidence) and nobody knows how it will play out now. I’m also a lot more optimistic about the rate of adaptation than the most alarmist scientists. Chernobyl is a lush wildlife refuge, Mt. St. Helens recovered decades before it was predicted to. Finally, there is enough public awareness that things are beginning to change. Thought leaders are lobbying to change the US Farm Bill so that it supports rather than punishes regenerative agriculture. More and more green eco-friendly products for the consumer are available. Even construction materials are becoming more eco-friendly. We are nowhere near the tipping point, but we’re gaining traction. There are groups of people all over the world who are banding together to help clean up the oceans, or shut down toxic confined animal feedlot organizations, or limit, or better yet ban, routine glyphosate spraying. My point is that we dug ourselves into this hole, we still have time to dig ourselves out. I’m an optimist and agree with Margaret Meade, “Never doubt that a small determined group of people can change the world. Indeed, nothing else ever has.”
@@BittyVids probably for humans and our very delicate systems, we are so many that any big change will be a huge problem....mainly we will loose our very comfortable life!!. Nature will care for itself.
@@BittyVids people will perish and die way before nature does. It's human arrogance and hubris to think we can control the climate
Diversity creates resiliency and sustainability.
Loved this "no drama" answer
Like Geoff I plant very diversely, as well as planting many varieties. I find some do better than others just depending on weather. High chill Apples in Southern California for instance... Still gave good apples against what most would think.
#SAVESOIL Top Soil is the MOST Endangered Resource on Planet Earth> Make It "TREND"
And the most renewable?
I plant both ways. I distrust the new warmer zone reclassification. We have gone 25 years in my area without dipping into the colder ranges, then we'll have a severe cold snap, and reality sets in. It's not been that long since the last cold weather event...
Think you must take the predictions with a grain of salt.
Who said you won't have a cold snap? Not climate scientists. Average temperatures are going up when measured over a long period of time, but that doesn't mean there won't be hotter or colder than average periods- indeed, more frequent and more intense weather events (hot and cold) are part and parcel of the man-made climate change as described by climate scientists. You seem to be describing having a warmer long term climate than earlier in your lifetime, and then you occasionally get an exceptionally cold period- this is EXACTLY what climate scientists talk about regarding climate change.
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The new zone reclassifications do, that is the whole point of having it a specified zone to denote lowest freezing temperature. It's setting people up for certain failure. It was arbitrary legislation under Obama...
Agreed, there is a crisis of some kind every few years and none have lived up to the hyperbole.
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Think we need to be smart in our approach. Randall Carlson was a guest on Joe Rogan's show. Carlson referenced readings of Greenland ice cores. It was just before the Lesser Dryas Ice Age temperatures started to fluctuate wildly, it was a 'climate change' frenzy. The northern continents then plunged into the cold temperatures that brought back the ice.
@@b_uppy That interview was a few years ago, wasn't it? The major question is what brought about the change in climate.
The RAF admitted to causing a flood with its Project Cumulus, which resulted in numerous deaths.
lynmouth UK, 1952...well done brother
In answer to the question, I do believe that we should be starting to introduce plants & tree that are more associated with a warmer climate, maybe only slightly warmer so it isn't such a shock to them if the weather gets colder, they will need time to adapt - time they don't really have. As the climate warms some plants/trees may be at risk of dying out as they won't be able to naturally migrate themselves away from the heat quickly enough - so we have to help them to relocate by physically planting them in readiness for the increasing temperatures of the future. We are in the UK but we have just planted some peaches & apricots, I plan to plant some olives & maybe almond trees in the future too. & will be looking into other trees which currently thrive in France/Spain where it is hotter.
I am with Geoff on this; cater for dryer and wetter conditions and cooler and warmer and their will always be something to eat.
I like to try planting things that wouldn't normally grow in temperate Australia. You never know how they will go.
News flash 90% of Australia is desert not temperate.
Thanks, for talking some sense (as usual).
Shame the majority won't listen, politics.
We should plant to reverse desertification
true
Good one Geoff! You nailed it 👍
People seem to forget or just don’t know this yet but it’s about to get cold. Our sun just entered a cycle a couple years ago called a grand solar minimum.
That'll cancel out a century of heat producing pollution. I don't understand how people still believe the shit the oil and gas companies are throwing out as research. The solar minimum is going to have little effect in the face of what we have done.
All scientists in the world are in a conspiracy to trick everyone into stopping climate change, and the ones making tons of money by supporting fossil fuels are telling the truth.. makes perfect sense there...
People seem to forget/ignore/never read about actual science, because scientists have said that the solar variation is nothing exceptional and doesn't have a significant effect compared to climate change. It's just a red herring presented by people who are, for some reason, afraid or angry about the idea that climate change is something to make a big deal of.
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The earth was a lot hotter in much of the Carboniferous, a time of gigantor clubmoss forests when the sun was a lot dimmer than it is now. The CO2 level was high and decreasing (due to the gigantor clubmosses, and also tree ferns later on). Then a super ice age happened concurrent with low CO2.
With enough unsequestering of CO2, a hot Earth under a dim Sun is possible - and is about to happen.
I like the bamboo raised beds.
Geoff, in America we are getting 100 storms every three to five years. My thoughts are to grow plants that are indigenous and in particular the plants the Native Americans grew. I watched a video of an Indian plant blue corn into a pile of dust. He said he would never water and it grows fine.
I recently moved to Florida and I'm a newbie to Florida gardening; I realized that it's easier to grow food that is suitable to Florida weather/climate. Nature is not suppose to change and adapt for us; We have to learn to adapt and change to Nature. Better to go with the flow of Nature then against it. In the long run, it's healthier and better for us.
@B Nach You should check out The Survival Gardening Chanel With David The Good on UA-cam, he practices permaculture in southern Alabama, very close to Florida. He has some great videos about what grows well in Florida and has a great sense of humor! :)
@@nathanthompson4600 Thank you for the info. I found out about David The Good by accident; Found him through another youtuber from Florida; I have a couple of his books. I think he was in Florida last month or a couple months ago giving a talk. Unfortunately I can only do container gardening for now. I'm going to try to grow some Asian Medicinal herbs; The ginger I have is growing like weeds! it loves this weather/climate; I'm also researching and educating myself on hydroponics; There's a vlogger in California who grows wasabi; fresh wasabi is an awesome natural remedy for my congestion and sinus problem.
Perfect answer! Much thanks for all your good work!
Thank you, your approach was what our land was indicating. I love your comment, climate change
was not such a problem with the combinations of plants on your land. We are trying to work with our native wildlife and found the garlic bedded with hay works but this year we used straw. The straw had wheat berries left in it and it has drawn the prairie dogs into the garlic bed. They will have noting to do with the garlic bulb or sprouting plant put sure have a time of it digging for the
wheat berries. Will need a barrier this year and go back to hay. Again so enjoy the knowledge you share.
Well said, as always.
This is a particularly snap change in the climate. It's driven by two things: fossil fuels (coal, oil, gas following on from 1,000 years of peat burning as well), and fossil-fuel-fueled deforestation, causing aridification, desertification, dryland degradation into deserts.
adaptation is possible, but human societies cannot seem to summon their superbeaver powers in order to do so, and we still have to somehow staunch the root wound, which are the gushing oil wells in the north sea and across the americas.
Great info! But dude, how on earth are you wearing so many layers? It looks super hot in this video
I’m also concerned about the increasing UVc light, due to decreasing magnetic field of earth, and chem sprays from the air as well.
If I may interject purely in the interest of further discussion,I have been following the subject of magnetic reversal or commonly referred to as a magnetic excursion event.It’s been alleged the effect of a weakening magnetosphere is witnessed by an increase of muon particles hitting the earth surface,generally they are believed to be in higher concentration in the earth’s upper atmosphere,I’m wondering if you would have further insight into this as it’s been alleged there are a lot more moun particles hitting the earth surface.cheers.
@@svthorasailing4868 There’s much of that in the literature, but the political alignment of the science is intense, and few scientists will speak above a whisper of anything beyond carbon dioxide lest the cancel mobs come for them.
@@johndougherty7216 yes I’ve been watching,you only get funding in the scientific community while you are in it.Shamefully though it dispels what science is all about,which is questioning the so-called settled science.Science is ever evolving theories which are infinite and if one goes against the norm then one finds itself ostracised.I appreciate your reply.
@@svthorasailing4868 The 'climate emergency' keeps the simpletons focused on the wrong thing all while groups like the world economic forum and individuals inclusive of Bill Gates are actively trying to gather more control for themselves and also make the world a worse place for us. It seems the biggest act of rebellion would be to bow out of the system as much as possible while living as self sustainably as possible on your own acreage.
@@Jim-yk9zw well said mate unfortunately they will tax the land and resources needed for this right out from under everybody,the pandemic didn’t have the desired result other than showing that the majority will be compliant if and when the time comes.The big win was emergency powers and quietly before the pandemic pushing through banking law reforms and trialing digital banking systems,that’s the big win that’s was anticipated.The pandemic showed the algorithm for a majority to buy online,how ,what,when for cash to be antiquated and superseded with anti bartering laws in Oz and US introduced while mostly everybody slept.I apologise this is not the forum for this,take care.
Is the arrowroot you talk about African arrowroot, also known as Canna? Are the decorative floral cannas edible too?
It is Canna edulis.
For once, I disagree with Mr Lawton for a simple reason: there's an evaluation error about what's happening right now. This is not climate changing, getting much wet, dry, cold, you name it. It's climate deregulation, which is definitely not the same. First, Geoff is right, there have been climate changes by the past, and the last one was 50000 years ago. Plants and animals have moved, that's right. But they had 5000 years to move at their own pace. Currently we're experiencing climate deregulation within few decades only. Maybe some animals may move fast enough, but not plant or trees by themselves so animals may have serious difficulties to get food. Currently in our natural forests 25% of the species die and are not about to be replaced naturally because resistant species are not endemic here. That's way too fast. Second, what we can see now is a total deregulation with intensification of dry and wet periods, warm and cold periods, etc. For example, in western Europe this year we had sequentially the hottest winter ever, followed buy the coldest spring ever (-9°C in April !), violent thunderstorms that washed away good soil and bring bad clay instead, and ironically not enough rainfall volume for growing season. The inconvenient thing is we should help massively plants, but we don't know what deregulated climate we're facing, we're clueless I'm afraid. If you misjudge the serious climate problem we're facing, you must wake up quick !
Exactly what I thought too
You're using a current weather phenomenon to make a case for climate change. That's a typical case of confirmation bias.
We are in a grand solar minimum. It’s about to get cold.
@@rickershomesteadahobbyfarm3291global temperatures and climate stability on earth depends principally on atmosphere composition.
Nature adapts just fine to changes in climate. What is seriously destructive isn't the change in the climate but the abuse of chemicals and industrial tillage. Those two things combined are what destroys the soil (soil being a mass of extremely varied living beings, otherwise it's just dirt). Without life to hold water, the dirt washes away much easier. I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but climate change discourse is meant to distract people from the real culprit: the agrichemical industrial companies.
People are demanding the wrong things from their governments. And governments are only providing regulation and legislation that always - but always - benefits these multinational companies. Even as Bayer in Europe got rulings in court in regards to glyphosate, the chemicals are still used. And in the current case of Sri Lanka, the government made an extremely bad move towards biological farming that will make the use of the chemicals even more entrenched, as they are made available to farmers again.
Good answer. I cannot comprehend how folk are believing the natural variant in our climate is something we should panic about. Carbon in the atmosphere is insignificant at 400ppm, that is 4 parts per thousand. If our atmospheric carbon drops below 180ppm we are in serious trouble and will struggle to grow any food crops. Submarines have alarms set to notify when carbon goes above 7000ppm. Plants love carbon. Half of the little extra carbon humans put in the atmosphere is taken up by forests. I see this carbon issue as a political issue, which is used to manipulate. It was warmer in the middle ages folks.
It was cooler in the middle ages, actually.
park your car
Nature always reminds arrogant man who the boss is.
Yeah, big garden party!
You all need to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants tress
Personally, I hope PEOPLE choose to plant trees instead of relying on a bloody search engine to do it for them. Enough with the slacktivism, everybody get to work.
@@alexanderockenden2564 Why can't we use Ecosia and plant tress
Wonderful!🙏🌳🌵🌴🍀#savesoil🍃🍋🍊🦋🐝🍏🐛
Please i search a land where i can build a cobhouse with gardens and foodforest, pls i will live in anny country possible.
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Also just quietly the folks of the Maldive islands recently let the cat out of the bag in regards to rising sea levels,they refute this claim and continue to build even more island landmass irrespective of popular media opinion,I apologise this is off topic,cheers guys.
Are you claiming the IPCC reports are false?
@Unmutual this information comes from the people that live there although the rise and fall of ocean levels as we know are also cyclical events connected to weather and also the rise and fall of tectonic plates in subduction zones where island chains have formed,the information is out there in plain view,take care.oh yes of course I will look further into the geological side,much appreciated.
@@BittyVids did I say they are,I am merely relaying recently received information do with it what you will.Instead of looking at a report and taking it as verbatim look for other areas to cross reference the given information,most reports are not without bias.take care.
@@svthorasailing4868 I’m asking for you to be clear.
Some anecdotal evidence from a single people from an island doesn’t refute decades to climate research.
@@BittyVids Decades of climate research? I would actually take the time to read those papers, before coming to any conclusion, then look at it from different angles, such as geology, archeology etc. You need to try and verify whatever information you get from different perspectives, particularly if that information has been funded by industry and government.
Permaculture design copies nature so the design will follow the natural diversity as it adapts.
I say NO. Cause if your going to prepare for a climate change future
Doesn’t that then mean we’re going to ignor the fact that we can adress it now
I mean for all we know we end up designing Like he describes but then in the end we just make it worse
was the climate stable
Never
When I was a child in the 70', most north italian home gardens had pines and birches. Now most north italian gardens (45° north) have palms and olive trees. It's not due to choice... simply the palms did not survive in the 70' and pines/birches do not survive the 21st century summers. The problem with human caused climate change is that IT IS TOO FAST FOR NATURE TO COPE WITH.
That's because the world was unusually cold in the 70s, not because it's hotter now. Back then scientists spoke of global cooling not global warming.
The earth has seen more rapid climate changes numerous times.
@@kazzana9013 it has seen 5 mass extinctions as well.
To say climate change does not affect local ecosystems is ridiculous. Whole countries are going under water while others are experiencing drought and fire. Could you please clarify your statement?
And that is different how? Sounds like the history of the planet to me.
Geoff that was an outstanding answer to the introduction of foreign diverse plant species into what is termed a non traditional growth area.The term global warming gets booted around on a daily basis with little regard to the fact that the planet is interglacial which,as has been stated has heating and cooling periods tho mainly controlled by the procession of earth around the tail winds of the sun which happen in tens of thousands of years cycles,sometimes nearer and other times further away.
Bottom line is we need Co2 for plant growth and food production and once emitted into the atmosphere doesn’t last long there by natural occurrence,being a heavier gas it dissipates and returns to the surface,imagine the planet with 110ppm of Co2.Lucky Mother Earth is self regulating,be safe.
What about climate geoengineering using satellites and lasers. New soft warfare also using chemical and Biowarfare to adjust populations and steal resources. Live free
This is absurd.
That is an ignorant comment. CO2 is a non-condensable gas, meaning it stays in the atmosphere for thousands of years. Over the last 800,000 years, CO2 has ranged between 200-300ppm in the atmosphere. It changes with the procession of the earth around the sun. CO2 is currently over 400ppm. This rate of change has not been seen since the last mass extinction event. The earth is becoming desertified because of human land-use practices. The carbon should be in the soil, vegetation and fossilised, but we have put all three types in the atmosphere. We need to rebuild soil over the entire earth if we want to have any chance of mitigating the most devastating effects of human-induced climate change.
@@wildforestorganics7298 well done. It’s frustrating how the oil lobby gets its brain worms into people.
I bet half the commenters here are bots.
@@wildforestorganics7298 the discussion of Co2 is based more on emotion than actual scientific data.Pre-extinction and human evolution the Co2 levels were through the roof due to such things as raging fires 🔥 increased volcanic activity,vast numbers of prehistoric animals,the continuous cycle of plant growth and decay.All of these processes involve the continuous cycle of gathering and releasing Co2,sulphur,methane and other minute gasses from and back into the atmosphere.
I do agree with you that human contributed Co2 emissions should be better controlled as there are other more harmful gasses being emitted along with the Co2.The reason I said this is more an emotional debate is because the regulatory bodies can guilt people into paying a tax on Co2 rather than finding a way to charge each human for the consumption and use of oxygen.
It’s the same issue with the ozone layer,natural occurring bleach is formed as it rises into the atmosphere through evaporative forces which are also natural occurrences to assist to dissolve the ozone which is also of a cyclical nature.
Deserts are a natural phenomenon you can’t implicitly say they are caused by human action without showing the evidence but as we have seen you can turn a desert area around as we have witnessed through the awesome Geoff Lawton and his team of dedicated volunteers.I wish you well,my comments are based on given knowns if you can provide evidence to counter my points I am always willing to reevaluate my own knowledge,take care.
To discuss this properly, we'd need to learn about what those spraying planes are doing filling up the skies with reflective metallic nano-particles. It's called geoengineering or climate engineering. The official story is that we're only considering doing it, but the truth is that it's already being done. If you need help understanding this, I'd recommend two things to start: find Dane Wigington here on youtube and check out what he's saying and find and watch some timelapse videos of geoengineering. I think my comment is the only one mentioning the geoengineering topic, and that is the most concerning thing of all. I know many of you will reject it without looking into it, because you've been programmed to have an aversion to anything labeled a "conspiracy theory," but I wouldn't let that stop me from bringing it to your attention. Willful ignorance and willful blindness are some of the ugliest of human habits.
Agree
You made that up.
UA-cam are even sticking their state sponsored propaganda below the description of the video. Gotta make sure everyone thinks what we want them to think 🤪
@Unmutual All corporate entities love to push their own agendas even if it is to the detriment of the people. I mean, the reason fat and meat had been demonised for decades and blamed for heart disease when sugar and crappy grains are to blame is a perfect example.
enough of this man made climate scaremongering
Yea, we should be designing for climate change since it is happening and is mostly natural. It will not be that great though. Very good video.
A true permaculture response to the insane climate religion. People have blamed our Indian Ocean Dipole changes which is a wind pattern on "climate change" because they need something to attack. Rather than look for solutions they can achieve themselves. My UPVC window and door changes has now provided full air tightness and a warmer passive home. There is so much people can do instead of worrying about plants for climates that dont exist or keep changing let alone slavery utility power. Instead of self sufficient energy which is the end goal. Self sufficiency not reliance.
Designing #geoengineering? permaculture is the SOLUTION, not cop26.
The climate is always changing, it's like preparing for a meteor strike, pointless.
More CO2 please
Suposely more co2, more green, and more green, more co2 (and o2). Suposely the world its greenner then 100 years ago...maybe its all going well!
We've lost a lot of CO² from our soils with the use of plowing. That's where we need to replenish it.
It will mitigate flooding and lessen the need for irrigation
@@b_uppy Isn't it the C or carbon (solid) we have lost from our soils, rather than CO2 which is a gas?
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True, but aerosolized soil carbon becomes CO².
BTW soil plants do need some oxygen. Carbon in soil is a great way to keep soil both moist but without drowning plants. It can unbind/unlock inorganic nitrogen making it bioavailable, reducing fertilization needs. aerosolized carbon can't do that.
It is what makes black gold. Most of our food crops are meant to be grown in carbon-rich soil. It's why it's important we rebuild it.
You seem to have plenty on board already, with your cognitive slowing and what...
We should be talking about weather modification by out of control governments. That's more dangerous to us than "climate change"
Agree
do you know what a coal is, or a petroleum
Are you suggesting you believe the current climate change has nothing to do with human activity?
Wrt selecting plants, permaculture requires selecting plants with climate in mind. If climate is changing, plant selection must change accordingly.
You gave a poor answer!
Nobody suggests that, this is not Twitter.
There's insightful comments above about the climates over the last 3000 years and how it has changed massively several times. Plants will adapt, some will wait it out further north, others will flourish until it gets colder again.
We're allowed to think more than 100 years back and forth. I advocate for 10'000, puts many little bumps in perspective.
We should still pursue a low-energy future, there's still so much room for improvement!
Did you listen to his answer? Or were you talking in your own head the whole time?
His answer was sufficient for those who have ears.
Your comment was poor.
@@alexnoman1498 plant don't adapt, they evolve. The current climate change is too fast for most species to evolve. Therefore, it is reasonable to select plants that can survive in the expected near future climate.
@@bincognito6609 he started his answer by suggesting that the current climate change is no different than those that "happened over millions of years". The current climate change is very noticeable in less than a human lifetime. (For those who have been paying the slightest attention).
Why did he suggest that? To cater to those who want to believe it's no big deal?
@@ecocentrichomestead6783 even if clima is changing as fast and drasticly as you seem to expect, let s say, 2 or 3 climate zone in a lifetime (60 to 80 years...) you still have time to adjust as you go, and prevent by diversity, instead of planting now for a imaginary apocalyptic future you dont known exactly whats gonna be like... observation first.
Green the planet.get rid of capitalism.
So you mean gray the planet?
I’m so sick and tired of hearing climate change.
Then park your car and get a cow
@@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 - Nope, I'm buying a big gas guzzling Ford Raptor. Climate change is a big hoax to grad more power and money. So stupid and ridiculous and all the liberals are dumb enough to believe in it.
Climate change is a systemic problem and it should be addressed systemically and not focused on the individual level. Individual contributions to carbon sequestration and biodiversity growth are welcome but not dramatic or impactful enough to actually address the problem.
You make it sound like carbon is a problem at 400ppm, 4 parts per thousand. Carbon is a fertilizer for plants and it will not harm us at even much higher levels. You should be more worried about lower carbon levels, as below 150ppm life will cease to exist. My garden would be incredibly lush if carbon was at around 1000ppm.
I love Jeff but this climate change stuff is total bs
I thought he did a marvelous job of addressing his subject without getting into a dog fight on the BS of excess carbon.
do you know what a coal is, or a petroleum
always push the bounds and turn off the main stream media as your being brainwashed.
do you know what a coal is, or a petroleum
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It's first necessary to comprehend climate change. It is primarily caused by the sun, and Man's contribution has not be calculated accurately. The sun is electric and runs on a clock cycle and its harmonics that cause climate catastrophes on different scales are on 1,500, 3,000, 6,000, 12,000 years cycles, So we're obviously due, and the worst case scenario is a pole flip and rapid onset ice age, something like the Gothenburg event, or the several others in the geological record. I'm incredulous how few people actually study climate change but only regurgitate the nonsense spewed by officials because they know most people can't handle the facts.
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