A common mistake of connecting corner desks and counter tops

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  • @StumpyNubs
    @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому +15

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    • @koobs4549
      @koobs4549 2 роки тому

      Would a butterfly or bow tie joint work in this case or would that have the same issue when it comes to wood movement?

  • @DeDraconis
    @DeDraconis 3 роки тому +527

    I appreciate that when you explain something, you briefly refresh us even on the simple terms we all "should know." When I first started watching woodworking videos on UA-cam I asked one of the other popular channels on here what a butt joint was, because it was mentioned in the video but not explained, and they told me to go look in the mirror.

    • @thoubias
      @thoubias 3 роки тому +103

      They must have forgotten that not every mirror has been framed the same way their mirror is.

    • @RAndrewNeal
      @RAndrewNeal 3 роки тому +1

      @@hj8607 Pretty sure he was just joking. lol

    • @hj8607
      @hj8607 3 роки тому

      @@RAndrewNeal like one hand clapping ?

    • @showalk
      @showalk 3 роки тому +12

      @@RAndrewNeal Maybe, but it's not a useful response.

    • @RAndrewNeal
      @RAndrewNeal 3 роки тому +5

      @@showalk I was replying to a since-deleted comment reply. I don't remember what it said now.

  • @profcah
    @profcah 3 роки тому +136

    I swear that I learn more in these 7-10 minute video than I would in a whole semester of a woodworking class. Now I understand why you don’t glue these joints and what loose tenon actually means.

  • @joeldcanfield_spinhead
    @joeldcanfield_spinhead 3 роки тому +166

    First time I've understood the term "loose tenon joinery." Good stuff.

    • @JohnDotBomb
      @JohnDotBomb 3 роки тому +8

      Yeah, I liked the explanation for it's use

    • @StumpyNubs
      @StumpyNubs  3 роки тому +25

      Here's a tutorial on it: ua-cam.com/video/Bx1Mg2mTMO0/v-deo.html

  • @aimilios439
    @aimilios439 3 роки тому +26

    That was one of the greatest UA-cam videos I've ever seen. Great language, comprehensive, very nice subject and tackling it for beginners even though one would realize about these problems later in their careers. No fluff or anything, just great woodworking. Thank you very much!

  • @Steve_Streza
    @Steve_Streza 3 роки тому +146

    I'm just getting into woodworking and I really appreciate how your channel spells everything out, doesn't assume you know everything, doesn't treat you like an idiot, and gets straight to the point. Wood expansion and accounting for it in joinery is one of those topics that is talked about often but rarely explained as well as this.

  • @onethinganimations
    @onethinganimations Рік тому +2

    I recently came across an 8-minute tutorial on "A common mistake of connecting corner desks and counter tops", and it was a breath of fresh air. The creator Stumpy Nubs has done an excellent job of packing a lot of useful information into a short timeframe without sacrificing clarity or quality. The flow of the video is seamless, with well-timed visuals and explanations that enhance the learning experience.
    He gets straight to the point, delivering the content with an energy and passion that keeps you engaged from start to finish. The video makes excellent use of visual aids and editing techniques to ensure that viewers can follow along without any confusion. The explanations are clear, concise, and accompanied by just the right amount of detail to be informative without being overwhelming.
    This is a prime example of how to create educational content that is both informative and enjoyable to watch. If you're looking for a tutorial that respects your time and provides a great learning experience, this is the one to watch.

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 2 роки тому +6

    At 58 and thought I was burnt out on woodworking I am reinvigorated to continue woodworking for the rest of my days. I grew up with Norm and always learned by books and magazines. These videos are priceless to me. I can’t thank you enough.

  • @sureshot311
    @sureshot311 3 роки тому +7

    I didn't understand the level of learning I was getting into starting this video. It really opened my eyes to joining pieces. Fantastic work. Thank you.

  • @louislandi938
    @louislandi938 3 роки тому +1

    You are batting 1,000. I have learned something important with every episode. ‘Excellent’ does not do your channel justice. Thank you for teaching me things I should have learned many years ago.

  • @kevinlopezobrien5366
    @kevinlopezobrien5366 3 роки тому +3

    These videos are informative without being cryptic or condescending. Excellent presentation, sir.

  • @jimtrimblett8333
    @jimtrimblett8333 2 роки тому +1

    Wow I'm really glad you made this video. I was going to join mine with dowels and pocket screws. I have never done a project like this, so now I'm going to have to learn how to use biscuits. Thanks.

  • @DonHall666
    @DonHall666 3 роки тому +12

    I love the clear concise language. I love the editing and the visual demonstrations you tie into the narration. Grade A teaching material. I seldom do woodworking but you're so good at teaching I just enjoy being here. I get an appreciation for the work that real craftsmen do and the reminder that the few projects I did do, I did wrong.

  • @ibrahimwehbe1153
    @ibrahimwehbe1153 3 роки тому +1

    No one covers the topics as you do sir.
    You’re the right person at the right place. 🙏

  • @rodross540
    @rodross540 Рік тому +1

    Great explanation about which way the grains expand. I never knew that.

  • @joebailey8845
    @joebailey8845 3 роки тому +42

    Now I see why my large miter jointed outdoor table failed so quickly in a really humid environment. I'm still learning a lot, but this was a major eye opener to the mechanical power of swelling wood.
    Cheers Stumpy!

  • @gladi8orob
    @gladi8orob 3 роки тому +1

    What an awesome explanation of how to establish miter and butt joints!! Completely understandable!!

  • @mdeamicis
    @mdeamicis 3 роки тому +18

    This is some high density information. You are extremely efficient with your words. The clear and concise manner you speak without wasting any time is very refreshing. In a 9 minute video I learned a lot and I appreciate it.

  • @gadjules7334
    @gadjules7334 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent video and well explained. Just what I need for a desk project. Thank you from the UK

  • @azashukri5322
    @azashukri5322 3 роки тому +3

    The quality of the information in this video is quite astonishing. Thank you.

  • @spayced
    @spayced 2 роки тому +1

    I use hand tools, so other woodworking videos talk about machines so don't make any sense to me or how I work. You have one of the few channels which has great info for all kinds of woodworkers. Thank you!

    • @ryanwilson5936
      @ryanwilson5936 2 роки тому

      If you like hand tools you should check out Roy Underhill.

  • @chrisnash2154
    @chrisnash2154 3 роки тому +1

    Those dog bone connectors look really interesting!

  • @aqdasak
    @aqdasak 3 роки тому +1

    I don't do woodwork. But your videos are so relaxing to watch that I always click your videos if they appear on my UA-cam home.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith 3 роки тому +1

    I don't work with wood, but honestly... You make me want to.
    Good stuff.

  • @edhalson3154
    @edhalson3154 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks James...awesome as always. Only 12 years too late...I built my bookshelves and wish I'd known this back then! Your ability to impart knowledge is superb and simple! The best way to teach! As always - a must watch!

  • @klg1216
    @klg1216 3 роки тому +24

    Great topic, often misunderstood. Nothing worst than finding the counter top you worked so hard on developing a gap due to seasonal movement. As always, thank you for your great style and awesome ability to relay it to the masses.

  • @claybear000
    @claybear000 2 роки тому +1

    Your site has improved so much since you stopped trying to be funny. It has become one of my favorites. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips.

  • @DFRNTWoodCo
    @DFRNTWoodCo 11 місяців тому

    It's not often that I loosely google what I think I'm looking for and then find EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Quoting a mitered butcher block counter top and this vid answered all I needed to know. Thanks!

  • @leemobai762
    @leemobai762 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome video. You’ve explained things even a newbie can understand.

  • @cbdeandc
    @cbdeandc 3 роки тому +14

    I appreciate that you teach that there is an appropriate solution to each unique challenge and that a properly thought out approach will result in a project with a long, useful life.

  • @G0neguy
    @G0neguy 3 роки тому

    This brings back memories of myself as a kid watching new Yankee workshop. Good times thank you.

  • @jmcorp8021
    @jmcorp8021 3 роки тому

    I’ve been struggling to understand how to make a corner countertop for a while now. This video explains the solution and makes it sound easy. Thanks a ton!

  • @michellecothrun1048
    @michellecothrun1048 3 роки тому +6

    Excellent information! I have always wondered why those dog bone bolt connectors were used in mitered corners in countertops especially. Now I know!

  • @antonyhibberd8824
    @antonyhibberd8824 2 роки тому

    This channel is such a wealth of information. You explain so clearly how and why problems can arise, then give all the options to overcome them and get a great finish. Thanks for these many nuggets of woodworking gold.

  • @davidhansz6339
    @davidhansz6339 3 роки тому

    I love how you try to teach us to ask the right questions.... And then show us how to create the right answer....

  • @roylec
    @roylec 3 роки тому

    That is the clearest explanation of a quite complex decision point for woodworkers that I have ever seen. This is days of tutoring in an apprenticeship.

  • @frantiseksram9741
    @frantiseksram9741 3 роки тому +4

    Every time I see you talking about simple joints, I'm always blown away with the depth of your knowledge. I love it, everything makes sense from explaining, and I'm learning a lot. Thanks for that!

  • @jennleighton3209
    @jennleighton3209 3 роки тому

    My favorite thing about your videos is how much background information you put in. I have rewatched a few videos because there is just so much to absorb, but I love it! As an information nerd and a budding crafter, I just love your style of mentoring. Very calm and well mannered approach. Thank You! and Happy Holidays!

  • @andrewwarshaw4936
    @andrewwarshaw4936 3 роки тому

    I appreciate all of your tutorials and have been watching your videos for a few months. I’m just getting in to woodworking and because of you yesterday I just received my Harvey C14 and Harvey 110LC-36P.
    Thank you I’m very excited about the new chapter in my life.

  • @dpmccutcheon
    @dpmccutcheon 3 роки тому +21

    Loved the illustrations of where wood moves and where it doesn’t.

  • @ApprenticeGM
    @ApprenticeGM 2 роки тому

    This guy knows what he's talking about! It's great when an expert can communicate clearly with learners.

  • @True_Blood_89
    @True_Blood_89 2 роки тому

    You guys have no idea how much this video means to me. I'm about to start a project making an L shaped desk out of pine and I had no idea what would be the correct way in joining the 2 pieces. Thank you so much for this! Definitely earned a sub from me

  • @tamigraves8921
    @tamigraves8921 Рік тому

    Love this! Most practical and economical video I have seen thus far for building an L-shaped desk. This is a fantastic looking desk! Thank you!

  • @mattroth602
    @mattroth602 3 роки тому

    I used a miter on a large basement bar, almost identical to your methods, including cutting with track saw and dog bones. I did decide to glue the joint, and haven’t had any problems with it opening, but I took a different approach and allowed one end of the bartop to float on the bar, allowing for movement. No regrets, five years later. It was the reason I bought the track saw…not sure how I’d got along without it!

  • @JohnGenX69
    @JohnGenX69 3 роки тому +1

    I have to truly admit I learn so much watching your videos....great and yet simple to understand for us layman/noobs 😉 .

  • @roberthornwoodturner
    @roberthornwoodturner 3 роки тому

    You are concise, clear, confident, and complete in your explanations. Thank you for your sharing of expertise.

  • @howlingwind1937
    @howlingwind1937 3 роки тому

    As I've said before, I'm not a woodworker ... yet, as you were talking about the different joints, I thought to myself I wonder if a biscuit joining would be appropriate....and then you answered my question! As usual I've learnt something, and thank you for sharing your knowledge. Cheers!

  • @knutstrand6486
    @knutstrand6486 2 роки тому

    I've gotten a growing interest in woodworking and your channel gives me so much information that I never knew about and haven't been told of and I'm feeling confident when I'm going to finally start working on my own projects that I won't be struggling. Thanks for making these :D

  • @ardeet
    @ardeet 3 роки тому

    I’m still squarely in the newbie category however this video gave me so much *usable* information on wood movement, decision on joints and reasons for fastening that I didn’t even know I didn’t know.
    Thanks very much for that 👍

  • @Zethneralith
    @Zethneralith 3 роки тому +3

    I don't even do woodworking, but this was still entertaining and informative. It's cool to know the thought process behind choosing joints.

  • @boatdetective
    @boatdetective 3 роки тому

    I work in the boatbuilding world. The difference between OK and master boatwrights is a solid engineering sense of the material. This channel provides consistently excellent technical material. The only down side is that you lure me into clearing out my savings for more tools- damn you.

  • @trcmf
    @trcmf 3 роки тому +1

    I’m about to start building 2 L shaped counter tops for a customer. So glad this video was just published.

  • @woodworksbygrampies1284
    @woodworksbygrampies1284 3 роки тому +2

    I'm so new I have yet to tackle a true woodworking project. While I'm building up to that stage, I find your videos so informative and valuable. I really enjoy your teaching style and your format. Please keep it up and once I get "settled in" a little bit better I will be sure to sign up for your newsletter and all of the other content you produce. Take care and have a good one :D 🖐

  • @YTInnovativeSolution
    @YTInnovativeSolution 3 роки тому

    Getting ready for a few wood projects and this helps me understand why things are built a certain way and not a different way. That different way would be my way, leading to inevitable failure in the future.
    Thanks for saving me the headaches of the future as I now know what each project needs and why.

  • @lilrex2015
    @lilrex2015 2 роки тому

    Absolutely fantastic video. No wasted words, video is just as long as it needs to be and I truly appreciate that.

  • @rjungquist1978
    @rjungquist1978 3 роки тому

    I enjoy your videos despite being a woodworking layman.
    The way you explain the items is both easily understood and provide a way to navigate around common starting errors.

  • @mjustjeanette7026
    @mjustjeanette7026 2 роки тому

    I'm finding these videos extremely interesting and informative. I may never use these skill but knowing they exist means I can better talk to tradespeople about my needs.

  • @jimmcnett
    @jimmcnett 3 роки тому +3

    That was very informative. I like the joinery methods that you showed. I have never seen that before. Thanks for all the great videos.

  • @e.t.preppin7084
    @e.t.preppin7084 2 роки тому

    Excellent tip. I think I’ve always tried to glue those joints. Both of them with biscuits for keeping both on the same plane. Excellent information.

  • @jefffuhr2393
    @jefffuhr2393 3 роки тому

    Another brilliantly done Stumpy Nubs video. What a lasting woodworking legacy they are!

  • @jamesthebrooks
    @jamesthebrooks 3 роки тому

    Love the shout out to Carter & Sons! I use mine with Stuart Batty carbon fiber handles... they're super quick to change out and have a nice feel to them.

  • @MyGrowthRings
    @MyGrowthRings 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent lesson, James. Thanks for sharing. I've used those same "dog bone" connectors for years and they've really improved them greatly over the years. Do you remember when you had to use a proprietary driver for them? I'm glad they continued to refine them over the years. Scott

  • @EricGreniervideo
    @EricGreniervideo 2 роки тому

    Your videos are all very clear and well thought out. I’m not a wood worker and still enjoy them.

  • @uncletiggermclaren7592
    @uncletiggermclaren7592 3 роки тому +1

    Quality work, on the joint AND the script. Really impressed with this channel.

  • @ggsj
    @ggsj 3 роки тому

    I've just learned a lot of important things I didn't know. I didn't know about not using glue at those joints and because of this I was about to do this mistake in a personal project I'm doing in the near future. Thank you.

  • @chrismalcomson7640
    @chrismalcomson7640 2 роки тому

    When your machining you can simply go through a cutting list and be pretty sure the pieces will fit together perfectly, but I find with more complex work where tiny variables add up you come to a point where you have to take your measurements of the work itself. This video explains the theory behind what you do, which is exactly why doing a cabinet making course is a very good idea. I had a business partner who was an old timer who taught me the old ways which was also invaluable.

  • @Charlesredporsche
    @Charlesredporsche Рік тому

    Excellent video. I've been woodworking for many years but I learned A LOT from this video. Very clearly presented and very intelligent. This is what makes you one of the very best on UA-cam and a world better than when you tried the comedy approach. You're great.

  • @MyAteSpiders
    @MyAteSpiders 3 роки тому

    I love it when I find a video that actually teaches me something

  • @TCoffman
    @TCoffman 3 роки тому

    Your videos are so thoroughly detailed in explaining what works and what doesn’t. Thank you so very much.

  • @derekrobertson1548
    @derekrobertson1548 3 роки тому

    Great video and explanation, I have been looking for that information for a few weeks now and struggled to get a decent explanation. You published this video just in time for me starting my kitchen renovation. Thank you.

  • @paulhunt598
    @paulhunt598 3 роки тому

    I did a pretty successful miter joint in my wood kitchen countertops by using oak veneer plywood edge trimmed with wide solid oak by using a straight edge to guide a fresh blade in my Bosch sabre saw. I was building on a tight budget. I was able to rip a single sheet of plywood to get two countertop sections. The width shortage was made up with my extra wide solid oak trim. I was impressed how well my improvised edge guide worked with a sabre saw simply butted against it. I think that your unglued bisquit joint would have been a better technique than we employed, but plywood is likely more stable than solid wood. Our countertops are 10 years old and my miter joint is still surviving. My greatest regret is my Home Depot plywood veneer skin is extremely thin. I bought much thicker oak veneer plywood from a cabinet shop 10 years before the countertop project that had much thicker oak veneer.
    My woodworking budget now allows for solid wood projects and I am increasingly becoming aware of and sensitive to wood movement. I enjoy content that addresses these issues as I am trying to improve my furniture designs to manage this anticipated movement.

  • @JesseFFT
    @JesseFFT 3 роки тому +1

    Your videos are solid gold. I am always so excited to watch the videos once I get notified one has been released. Keep up the great work.

  • @kevinwiley5325
    @kevinwiley5325 3 роки тому

    I'm glad you made this video. I just bought my first house and am in the planning stages of making new countertops

  • @GraemePayne1967Marine
    @GraemePayne1967Marine 2 роки тому

    Very useful, and I watched this at a good time for me. (Completely by accident, as I was not specifically looking for the information.) In a couple of weeks I am going to be doing a cabinet and countertop project. Now I know better ways to connect the pieces! Thanks.

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC 2 роки тому

    Love the detail and explanations behind the choices. These kinds of videos help people apply principles not just copying steps. Bravo!

  • @Unthred
    @Unthred 7 місяців тому

    Marvellous video as always I am just about to make an L shaped desk for my partner and this answered all my questions about it. Thanks

  • @gordroberts53
    @gordroberts53 3 роки тому

    Thanks James. While I do not have any similar projects in the works, this is a great piece on dealing with wood movement. Thanks for making me a little smarter today

  • @THE_RAMALAMADINGDONG
    @THE_RAMALAMADINGDONG 3 роки тому

    I'm the stereotypical 6'2 185 ex-military biker (not claiming to be a badass just trying to paint a picture) and I would honestly pay money just to hang out with this fella and talk/learn wood working like there's no tomorrow!!!!!!!

  • @Zenkai76
    @Zenkai76 2 роки тому

    Wish I had seen this video when I built my large desk 4 years ago, I knew about wood movement but not enough to stop it, I was surprised how much of it failed. I spend a lot of time and money fixing this desk, I sealed it with Epoxy so hopefully no more failures.

  • @desmondsmith8894
    @desmondsmith8894 2 роки тому

    Thank you for your concise clarity. A real boost to my meagre knowledge in wood slab desk and countertop making. Thank you

  • @MARiordan
    @MARiordan 3 роки тому

    Your explanations are always so concise, clear and complete! Thanks.

  • @thefurious69
    @thefurious69 3 роки тому

    So far this was what I was looking for. I am trying to install my own countertop in my rental property. I have a corner joint that I want to do the right way the first time around.

  • @jbb5470
    @jbb5470 3 роки тому

    Outstanding video! I am working on a project where I have to deal with conflicting end grain and your video helped me better understand methods to deal with this issue!! Thank you for posting this helpful video!!

  • @dragonnorway
    @dragonnorway 3 роки тому

    Man, the timing and mind-reading skill is awesome! Have just sanded my 2x2m desk top, and was wondering how I should join the two pieces together, since they are to heavy to mount forehand. You just made my day!

  • @alexandrerauen6860
    @alexandrerauen6860 3 роки тому +1

    Very high quality technical material here. Awesome!

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri 3 роки тому +4

    Whe I worked in "home depot equvalent" we had roting templates for the edges of butt jointed corners on counter tops. The made it so that the was a reliefcut on the long edge and the profiled portion of the short edge had a radius where it mated with the relief cut. The coutntertops were aligned with biscuits and held together with special screw clamps for easy removal as I remember. I could make a drawing of the setup if there are any questions or interest in making a video about the technique. It was pretty slick.

    • @m101ist
      @m101ist 3 роки тому

      I was also thinking of work tops. A small mitre for the profile.then the butt joint. Then biscuits and the screw clamps. You use a jig profile for this. 😳

  • @christophercastor6666
    @christophercastor6666 3 роки тому +5

    A wealth of thorough information with attention given to intricacies as well as the basics. Y’all are awesome; I appreciate the long and short of your lessons even when you go against the grain!
    Thank you
    -Castor

  • @stipcrane
    @stipcrane 3 роки тому

    This is a superb tutorial! The illustrations explained wood movement crystal clearly.
    Outdoor miters are a pet peeve of mine because the humidity swing is 4X what indoor humidity is. Anything over an inch and a half will produce noticeable gaps. If the joint is 15' away it might not be observable, but when folks doll up a window with 4" or 6" mitered outdoor trim I just shake my head.

  • @shimshimshirrie2
    @shimshimshirrie2 2 роки тому

    this was SO HELPFUL. I get so frustrated trying to find the information I need but don't know I don't know? and then some places just say "well this is what you should do!!!" but don't actually EXPLAIN it and then I can't help but think, okay well what if I DONT?

  • @Storyholder23
    @Storyholder23 2 роки тому

    Should have watched this before installing my butcher block counters. I used a hodgepodge of dowels, glue and dog bone fasteners on a butt joint. It was also my first foray into joinery.. 1 year later there is a tiny seam separation and slightly proud elevation of the long grain side. Depending on the day. Overall I'm still pleased and don't mind the errors. They tell the truth about me. Great video for future reference

  • @WoodenItBeNice
    @WoodenItBeNice 3 роки тому +3

    Hi James, I always learn something from your videos. Take care. cheers, Huw

  • @NoJusticeNoPeace
    @NoJusticeNoPeace 2 роки тому

    Our family had an antique dining table set heirloom which had come over from Scotland, all hand-carved, complete with six chairs (one of which was larger and more ornate for the head of the table) and extra two leaves. The thing weighed over a thousand pounds. And it didn't use any glue or nails whatsoever. The entire thing was constructed with pegs, dowels, tenons and biscuits. Whatever master artisan made it clearly knew that much wood all joined together needed to be able to flex.

  • @josephbohme7917
    @josephbohme7917 2 роки тому

    Thoughfullnes is so rare, and the ability to explain and understand the nature of mechanics as it applies to E V E R Y T H A N G.. Merci. You are too mellow and chill

  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight 2 роки тому +3

    This is great, really enjoyed this video.

    • @4.0.4
      @4.0.4 2 роки тому

      Hey! I like your stuff.

  • @TheLovelyMissBeans
    @TheLovelyMissBeans 3 роки тому +2

    This was very helpful. Now I know how I screwed up my first tabletop. Next time, it will be better! Thanks!

  • @ACAB_Media
    @ACAB_Media 3 роки тому +3

    I was going to ask my woodworking group just this morning about counter tops but had to run out. Now I just got home and you've answered most of the questions I was going to ask in this video! Thanks a bunch! Awesome timing!

  • @Bigelite094
    @Bigelite094 3 роки тому

    That loose tenon jig is the most ingenious thing I've never seen.

  • @Ruso_Moose
    @Ruso_Moose 3 роки тому

    Stumpy Nubs is a national treasure 👍😎

  • @munkiking4511
    @munkiking4511 3 роки тому

    Iv been thinking about exactly this for about a week and thank god I watched this video had no idea about half of this stuff!

  • @chadmaphis6821
    @chadmaphis6821 3 роки тому +1

    Nice content and appreciate the correct term for the"dog-bone" connection. Keto the great content coming. 👍