How to choose a Linux distro: Stop Thinking!

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
  • Stop distro-hopping!
    Some advice to newer Linux users: don't sweat trying using "the best" distro. Experiment with other distros on your own time.
    Don't switch because you expect a universally different or better experience.
    ---
    Soon I'll be doing a video on my qutebrowser setup, which I happen to like; probably next week.
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  • @Kairosdex
    @Kairosdex 6 років тому +2560

    Thanks, I chose TempleOS

  • @markgep
    @markgep 5 років тому +668

    0:01 - 5:00 how to choose a distro
    5:00-13:20 OH YEAH I USE ARCH

    • @Tamramsy
      @Tamramsy 4 роки тому +36

      Imagine being skilled enough to install arch, it took me 4 days to realize I’m not good enough to install it

    • @Fear_Not_I_Is_Here
      @Fear_Not_I_Is_Here 4 роки тому +2

      Arch here 2

    • @Tamramsy
      @Tamramsy 4 роки тому +32

      Good news guys, after lots of using Manjaro and figuring this whole thing out I installed arch, messed it up (on accident) and installed again from scratch

    • @Fear_Not_I_Is_Here
      @Fear_Not_I_Is_Here 4 роки тому +9

      Tamramsy welcome to the party then

    • @XDjUanZInHO
      @XDjUanZInHO 4 роки тому +6

      @@Tamramsy It took me 4 days to do it properly, I tried it so much that when I finished I realized it was just badly done so I did it again

  • @veepizzapie
    @veepizzapie 7 років тому +254

    >showing off customized arch linux desktop
    >/cuteboys/
    hol up

  • @guitarloser07
    @guitarloser07 7 років тому +349

    Your choice of supplementary images for this video is on point. I'd find myself laughing while it plays or pausing to read the joke text, all-together chuckling and missing what you said, only to rewind in order to not miss the points you were trying to make :) Great points. Great reasoning. Great video. Subbed!

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  7 років тому +89

      Ha, thanks a lot! Good to know people share my sense of humor.

    • @davidfabian3899
      @davidfabian3899 7 років тому +4

      same here. Great choice of images and videos. Though I'm not completely in peace with pepe, but the video was still more funny than browsing imgur for a week. And was informative too.

  • @sracer
    @sracer 7 років тому +440

    In short... don't succumb to "paralysis by analysis". :D

    • @LucasGuillemette
      @LucasGuillemette 7 років тому +11

      Jeez thanks I really needed to spend another 15 min thinking about not thinking.

    • @walter_lesaulnier
      @walter_lesaulnier 4 роки тому +5

      I used to be terrible about "paralysis by analysis". In the late '80s it took me 3 months of research and wishy washy mind changing to pick the "perfect" high end cassette player for my car.

  • @luck3949
    @luck3949 7 років тому +735

    Did you create this video using terminal only?

    • @ankitaaarya
      @ankitaaarya 6 років тому +25

      Luck 😂😂😂😂

    • @Metacryptic
      @Metacryptic 6 років тому +9

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !

    • @jonathanl3068
      @jonathanl3068 5 років тому +76

      no he had to make the terminal first

    • @maxnicely8926
      @maxnicely8926 5 років тому +58

      I used GRUB boot loader command line to make video

    • @Weegeeguy208
      @Weegeeguy208 5 років тому +8

      Plot twist: Luke creates all his videos in the terminal.

  • @UltraNyan
    @UltraNyan 7 років тому +183

    I was once in a lecture with 200 people and the guy holding the presentation asked, "How many of you have tried Linux", I and other 70 people raise hands. Then he asked "How many of you have tried more than 5 distros" - 10 guys rise hands me included. "How many of you have tried more than 50 distros" - I was the only one to rise the hand... fuck.

    • @twodogsdave66
      @twodogsdave66 4 роки тому +7

      I'm in the same boat!

    • @UltraNyan
      @UltraNyan 4 роки тому +52

      @@abdulwahabjag damn mate you must be living near a nuclear power plant

    • @xuanhuy6735
      @xuanhuy6735 3 роки тому +3

      And what did the guy say?

    • @sethsrc792
      @sethsrc792 3 роки тому +1

      @@abdulwahabjag bro wtf

    • @MiguelAngel-fw4sk
      @MiguelAngel-fw4sk 3 роки тому +3

      @@abdulwahabjag Well, I guess he's counting his toes, too.

  • @geoffrey4513
    @geoffrey4513 7 років тому +341

    I'm guilty of having started my Linux journey with Arch because I wanted to feel like a badass. 😁

    • @SmolaniAshki
      @SmolaniAshki 6 років тому +51

      want to be badass, try gentoo.

    • @unicatte
      @unicatte 6 років тому +62

      I guess your Linux journey has ended quickly. XD

    • @TheR971
      @TheR971 6 років тому +14

      Jesse Richter You mean as badass as waiting thousands of hours of compilation time can be?

    • @Getoverhere666
      @Getoverhere666 5 років тому +2

      Don't shove anything into your arch!

    • @fleefie
      @fleefie 5 років тому +21

      @@Sebi20070 i was on arch but one of my bitch ass friend trashed my instaln in my back :'( He said "i just ran an update" yeah stfu you broke it.

  • @pine2king
    @pine2king 6 років тому +455

    All new users should start with parrotOS or Kali. Do much penetration, go greyhat, much more penetration, blackhat, much much more penetration, jail... new kinds of penetration.

    • @notkamui9749
      @notkamui9749 6 років тому +26

      i laughed way too hard xD

    • @thearyaputra
      @thearyaputra 5 років тому +6

      This comment is gold. 😂

    • @JonitoFischer
      @JonitoFischer 5 років тому +15

      Are you watching Unix Porn?

    • @Yuzuki1337
      @Yuzuki1337 5 років тому +5

      Then get released from prison, don the white hat and do more penetration with a clear conscience

    • @hhhgggds
      @hhhgggds 5 років тому +1

      Lol good1

  • @GMSjk777
    @GMSjk777 7 років тому +672

    Really helpful and 11/10 memes. Thank you.

    • @Klblaz
      @Klblaz 7 років тому +17

      5/7, the best memes

    • @flarone
      @flarone 7 років тому +2

      Political Monkey, I will never forget your reply. Although, I suspect you may be working in conjunction with Spooky Business in order to advance your meme career.

    • @JohannaMueller57
      @JohannaMueller57 7 років тому +1

      shut up

    • @megaandry69
      @megaandry69 6 років тому +1

      11/10? More like 1011/1010

    • @SwadeshiBakchod
      @SwadeshiBakchod 6 років тому +1

      11/10 = 1.1 the memes were not that bad! I will go with 10/10!

  • @GergiH
    @GergiH 7 років тому +138

    Man you're a lifesaver. I was hopping distros all the time because of this. Now I'm just sitting in front of Ubuntu/Mint because that just works and I don't need to hack into nasa just to get things done :D

    • @ZverseZ
      @ZverseZ 2 роки тому +2

      Lmao

    • @ZverseZ
      @ZverseZ 2 роки тому +9

      People brag about spending 4 days in a row customizing their entire arch linux operating system, and I just want to get rid of windows so my steam games can run smoothly lol

    • @lmnts556
      @lmnts556 Рік тому +8

      @@ZverseZ True, like JUST FUCKING WORK. Thats all we need. People do not have a fetish for configuring. Just make distros that work out of the box and people still start coming over.

    • @komali2
      @komali2 Рік тому +5

      I remember one of my jobs had a major Linux dick measuring thing going on, as well as keyboard and ide. It was out of control. Thing is after showing off our hot shot vimrc files and hyper optimized colemak for programmers layout or completely stripped down nosystemd arch os... We had to actually work, like you know, build apps for our clients lol. I remember one guy really got into vim in a big way but he was the least efficient of all of us cause he got into colemak at the same time and couldnt figure out which bindings were where. Or my boss had a customized arch os going that was fine until we were at a client meeting and he had to plug and HDMI cable in to present some code... And after that was sorted, the client asked if he could zoom in lol and the whole thing started over again. Now I just use either Ubuntu or debian depending on the machine, toss on some emacs and vim config files, some bash profile stuff, done. Seriously just KISS.

  • @gaybrahderpwood
    @gaybrahderpwood 5 років тому +104

    There's only two choices in Linux: Gentoo and everything else

  • @SuperMario9078
    @SuperMario9078 9 місяців тому +7

    The fact that some of us clicked on this video because Varg Vikernes is in the thumbnail proves that the Linux and black metal community are connected.

    • @RippedTailor
      @RippedTailor 4 місяці тому +1

      Lots of internetty people like Varg but not bm. I think this is the connection.

  • @SportaChris
    @SportaChris 7 років тому +9

    This is the best UA-cam video about Linux ever uploaded.
    Subbing, however, is a serious commitment, and I will have to take time to consider.

  • @stupidburp
    @stupidburp 7 років тому +197

    This did not help me pick a distro.

    • @davidak_de
      @davidak_de 7 років тому +73

      he said use ubuntu.

    • @Rocket33r
      @Rocket33r 7 років тому +16

      davidak actually he said use trisquel lol

    • @iusewindowsbtw3420
      @iusewindowsbtw3420 6 років тому +6

      install solus

    • @martianmo9386
      @martianmo9386 6 років тому +6

      He uses arch

    • @WiccaRobin
      @WiccaRobin 6 років тому

      Martian Mo that is what he said you win a candy now go find it..

  • @baruchben-david4196
    @baruchben-david4196 5 років тому +11

    I've used Linux for close to 20 years. I have switched several times, not because I was overthinking it, but because I couldn't do things with the current distro.
    In my opinion, it's perfectly fine to switch at any time, for any reason. There really are differences between major distros, and you may need to spend some time with one in order to find out if it works for you.

  • @miraalnilam9540
    @miraalnilam9540 4 роки тому +22

    ""we all started on ubuntu""
    me who started on mint:AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

    • @defvii
      @defvii 4 роки тому +8

      @ippos_khloros typically we dont use fork, we say derivative, because it isnt as simple as making a copy of a git repo, because distros aren't a codebase, they're a kernel/package/binary build/distribution system . Most distros are derivatives. Ubuntu itself is a derivative of Debian and its repos are mostly just downstream from Debian. But it also can have signifcant differences in architecture as a project, for example it was using upstart for a while as init which debian never used. Hell, Mint has had its own derivatives.

    • @xeiAiex
      @xeiAiex 4 роки тому +6

      Except for me.. I started on 9 CDs of Mandrake 😂

    • @caughtinthewebosu
      @caughtinthewebosu 3 роки тому

      I wanted to start on the highest REASONABLE level, so I'm starting with Gentoo.

    • @Xaito
      @Xaito 3 роки тому

      I started before there was Ubuntu.

  • @juancriolivares
    @juancriolivares 5 років тому +87

    You are missing the point. We distro hop because it's fun.

  • @James-zn8nz
    @James-zn8nz 6 місяців тому +4

    It's been 7 years since this video was published, and I think the essence of it has only become more true as the major distros and packages have developed over time.

  • @AndrewErwin73
    @AndrewErwin73 7 років тому +165

    Why the random pic of Varg?

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  7 років тому +120

      Lol, it's just a highly esoteric meme. Would explain, but that'd reduce the esotericism.

    • @terranrepublican5522
      @terranrepublican5522 7 років тому +21

      LOL, I was shocked. How does he know about Varg ?!

    • @RadoDani
      @RadoDani 7 років тому +6

      Click bait!

    • @TehTezMan
      @TehTezMan 7 років тому +1

      are you a frequenter of /g/ perhaps??? o_0?

    • @2anfrån018
      @2anfrån018 7 років тому +13

      thats kinda why i clicked

  • @JSquidy
    @JSquidy 7 років тому +472

    I'm a simple man, I see a pic of burzum, I click the video.

  • @sigxfsz
    @sigxfsz 5 років тому +28

    18 Years On Gentoo, or How I Learned To Never Drink The Kool Aid And Love The Portage Bomb.

  • @TheAwesomeDudeGuy
    @TheAwesomeDudeGuy 7 років тому +51

    dude these were som really dank memes. looking forward to more

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 6 років тому +27

    Tried "Linux lite" in a VM on a mediocre Windows 10 desktop machine. Ran very well there, So it replaced Windows 7 on my Acer Netbook. Yay!, Little bastard is much faster now!

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 5 років тому

      I've used pointlinux instead of linux lite in a singlecore atom, it was better, but with a disavantage that it's based on debian, not ubuntu.

  • @humanfactorsio
    @humanfactorsio 7 років тому +9

    Sometimes it totally is worth switching... I moved from Ubuntu to Mint Debian Edition - I liked the rolling release. Then moved from that to pure Debian after some time. I don't think any of these moves were a waste of time... But I totally understand why you give this advice - particularly to newcomers.

  • @artikos8750
    @artikos8750 10 місяців тому +6

    Why is there a Varg face on thumbnail?

    • @p99chan99
      @p99chan99 3 місяці тому

      Maybe LS is Varg pilled

  • @stttrm
    @stttrm 3 роки тому +4

    Why is there Varg on the thumbnail?!

  • @pip5528
    @pip5528 6 років тому +12

    So, here's my journey in a nutshell:
    elementary OS (January 2015)
    Ubuntu (January 2015)
    Manjaro (March 2015)
    OpenSUSE (Sometime soon)
    I switched from Elementary to Ubuntu out of preference, then when I felt a bit more advanced and wanted to try something new, I switched to Manjaro, which became my favorite and I used it for a long time, but when my home Manjaro installation got borked and had weird flashing issues on boot and I couldn't do anything with it, not even switch to a TTY, nor could I fix it with chroot, I basically just scrapped the installation and have recently decided to switch to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed because it is still rolling release, but it's not bleeding edge, and it's more stable, and plus I also want to learn RPM and the OpenSUSE way of doing things, as well as use KDE extensively when I have used Xfce for a long time. I want to get out of my comfort zone and have new experiences as well as learn new things.

    • @hipwave
      @hipwave 5 років тому

      pity me. my first distro was corel linux (1999). i still cry shit when i think of that

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 5 років тому

      I wasnt even able to break opensuse tumbleweed, even installing unsupported packages.
      Its rock solid in my experience.
      The only 2 issues i have with it are:1- no support at all for my amd hd8850m (amd's fault, but i think with some jerryrig *buntus can still use it, and only them basically)
      2-doesnt have the switchable hybrid laptop graphics support (that goes to manjaro and *buntus basically)

    • @joaquinjuliarena2110
      @joaquinjuliarena2110 4 роки тому

      Tumbleweed is as bleeding edge as Manjaro and may also break, it's not true that it's more reliable. I prefer Manjaro and tested both of them.

  • @H4KnSL4K
    @H4KnSL4K Рік тому +4

    If you're in a position to make a choice, then think about what's most important to you. One thing that I think is really important is the size of the community and how easily you can get support (What do your friends run? What can you find search results most easily for?). So I wouldn't normally pick Ubuntu, but it's hard to beat the number of Ubuntu users out there, so it makes it easy to find answers to common problems.

  • @criticalmoorhen
    @criticalmoorhen 5 років тому +27

    1. Install Arch
    2. Install XFCE
    3. Customize XFCE
    Enjoy! BTW I use Arch.

  • @Dr_Reason
    @Dr_Reason 5 років тому +5

    I use Slackware because I truly understand the boot process it uses and I appreciate the close to source 'vanilla' packages. Others bistros frustrate me.

    • @buggs9950
      @buggs9950 5 років тому +7

      I find all bistros frustrating. I wanted an OS for my computer but they keep telling me all they supply are moderately priced simple meals in a modest setting.
      Sorry.

  • @abdellatifzouliga5885
    @abdellatifzouliga5885 7 років тому +87

    i'm a distro hopper and i'm liking it.

    • @debtminer4976
      @debtminer4976 7 років тому +18

      ABDELLATIF ZOULIGA yep... I wanna smell all the flowers and taste all the fruits...

    • @josephatnip2398
      @josephatnip2398 7 років тому +4

      ABDELLATIF ZOULIGA me too but my full back go to is mint it's not to difficult for my girlfriend

    • @shater1164
      @shater1164 6 років тому +1

      You're into hoppatitus ;)

    • @ceeanimations9197
      @ceeanimations9197 6 років тому +1

      If you need a distro with b43 support try Cub Linux, Peppermint Linux OS, Puppy Linux

    • @KingJellyfishII
      @KingJellyfishII 5 років тому +1

      @Hubert Jasieniecki that really made me lol....

  • @heartycann3783
    @heartycann3783 7 років тому +4

    what by listening to the voice I had imagined there must be a slim guy behind this voice. who else have thought this......????
    But seriously great effort it help me very much love you.

  • @finnk1289
    @finnk1289 3 роки тому +6

    Sad that this video got several times more views than most of your others. An example of how obsessed people are about distros instead of all the other important components of the OS.

  • @piroozz
    @piroozz 7 років тому +3

    Since years I've been using Puppy Linux and am completely satisfied. Haven't ever been trying any other distro.

  • @maxuix2
    @maxuix2 7 років тому +37

    Your meme game is top notch sir.

  • @lordadamson
    @lordadamson 7 років тому +9

    the message from FSF at the end cracked the shit out of me :'D

  • @fargoneownway1614
    @fargoneownway1614 7 років тому +38

    You know that distro that you just keep going back to. Thats the one you should be using. There is a reason you keep going back to it.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight 5 років тому +1

      Good point :-)

    • @cui3931
      @cui3931 5 років тому +21

      But the distro you keep comming back to is the distro you have left the most. There is something wrong with it.

    • @eduardoavila646
      @eduardoavila646 5 років тому +4

      What if i dont ever comeback to any distro?

    • @XDjUanZInHO
      @XDjUanZInHO 4 роки тому +1

      @@cui3931 then use bedrock Linux and choose a piece of each distro you like

  • @spencersmith7583
    @spencersmith7583 7 років тому +33

    Very good advice. I switched because Vista support was going to end and, why buy another windows OS or computers x2? Started with Ubuntu then found Linux Mint XFCE, works grate on older computers and soooooo much better than Vista. If I knew how much better and faster Linux is compared to Vista I would have changed years ago, lol.

    • @klobiforpresident2254
      @klobiforpresident2254 7 років тому +7

      You haven't used the Linux of years ago :'D

    • @misaki-chan4911
      @misaki-chan4911 7 років тому +1

      I mean there is still the option to just crack the shit outta Windows 10; it's like the easiest thing to do lmao

    • @TANMAN9095
      @TANMAN9095 7 років тому +1

      why do that when you can just install linux?

    • @VGHOST008
      @VGHOST008 6 років тому +2

      The same with me. Mint XFCE ;)

  • @maxfriis
    @maxfriis 5 років тому +4

    Thumbs up. I used Arch (with dwm) and had an update kill my file system years ago. That's an event that can make you switch. I went to Ubuntu and have been happy there while loving the Arch wiki.

  • @bloomingiris
    @bloomingiris 7 років тому +9

    I actually like this video because i have this problem. Very helpful actually.

  • @SuperRahul73
    @SuperRahul73 5 років тому +8

    I don't hop.
    I am sticking to Mint linux, since it showed up on Distro Watch.
    Its my home now, I am not budging anywhere.

    • @soham7510
      @soham7510 3 роки тому

      Or you're not budgieing anywhere?

  • @warecamel
    @warecamel 7 років тому +12

    I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

    • @martianmo9386
      @martianmo9386 6 років тому

      warecamel y u copy n paste

    • @WiccaRobin
      @WiccaRobin 6 років тому

      oh so there the ones I should be blaming for all my issues and not Linux

    • @KingJellyfishII
      @KingJellyfishII 5 років тому

      It's ok to call it linux even though that's not 100% correct. You would likely "Google" something, instead of "using a search engine". You don't have to be totally accurate all the time (although I get your point)

    • @MeanMisterMustard
      @MeanMisterMustard 5 років тому

      Go away Richard Stallman
      Damn I suddenly need a cigarette

  • @MCLooyverse
    @MCLooyverse 3 роки тому +6

    The way I handle "difficult" choices like these is with a pinch of apathy. Throw out the choices that are obviously wrong, then stop caring and just pick something. This way, you'll probably still make a fine choice, and you won't feel bad about it because you've already decided you don't care -- at least, not that much. Also, in the case of Linux, it just really does not matter, because, whatever your dream setup is, you can get there from pretty much whatever starting point you choose, I think. Honestly I haven't hopped distros that much. I went from Ubuntu to Arch to Kali to Arch (Kali is in there because some stuff isn't built for Arch, so I wanted to go back to Debian, but not Ubuntu. Whatever was broken didn't work there either, so eventually I went back).

  • @rendeaust
    @rendeaust 7 років тому +45

    We need 'you know' counter.

  • @p3on
    @p3on 7 років тому +7

    why is there a picture of varg in the thumbnail? lets find out.

  • @UBO58
    @UBO58 7 років тому +2

    Thanks a lot for sharing these simple thoughts! For me, my distro worked really good for many years. Some more or less actual decisions in the linux world made me think, that maybe it was time for a change and I had a look on many distros and desktops. After this video, I made a clear decision with ease.

  • @mix3k818
    @mix3k818 6 років тому +14

    You know what? Let's do the total opposite. Let's install every single Linux distro, including the unpopular ones and spinoffs.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight 5 років тому +2

      Yes! :-)

    • @fleefie
      @fleefie 5 років тому +2

      >spinoffs
      SaveThePrincessBuntu

    • @sixfr0nt
      @sixfr0nt 5 років тому +2

      Even Hannah Montana Linux and Ubuntu Satanic Edition. Throw in Moebuntu just because.

    • @pierrechevaliergeol
      @pierrechevaliergeol 5 років тому +1

      I've been doing that, in the past...

    • @se2007ian
      @se2007ian 4 роки тому +1

      200 iq. let's multi boot!

  • @jalepezo
    @jalepezo 6 років тому +1

    Luke Smith you are a kindred spirit, I am also a postgrad switching to Linux, Latex and freeware
    Thanks for your tutorials

  • @hectorsauvage7511
    @hectorsauvage7511 7 років тому +5

    Arch slamming the door (by abandoning an .img format for the RasPi) on millions of potential new linux users was a very 'bright idea' --some would say an "elitist" approach, but I couldn't possibly say as such. >_<
    So after continuing the hopping game and with the above in mind I landed at BSDworld for good (FreeBSD). Done and love it. Thanks for these vids -enjoying them greatly.

  • @michaelnguyen2611
    @michaelnguyen2611 7 років тому

    this was undoubtedly the most helpful video for someone who was struggling to decide with which distro to choose

  • @RombusEvilBones
    @RombusEvilBones 7 років тому +44

    I always go with Debian, works great

    • @sbgrant
      @sbgrant 7 років тому +21

      It's a perfectly acceptable and stable middle-ground. Yes, it has a little bit of a learning curve in comparison to Mint or Ubuntu, but if you get past it, it's worth it. It teaches the user about Linux, it's reliable, it's beautiful to use, it's fast and functional and it won't screw with your computer. It's the workhorse stalwart of the Linux world.

    • @kleash
      @kleash 7 років тому

      I'm planning to use fedora just so I can transfer my skills to companies running on RHEL

    • @Eric-ze1qs
      @Eric-ze1qs 6 років тому

      Gonna try it out today

    • @nxxxxzn
      @nxxxxzn 6 років тому

      Rombus EvilBones it's very annoying. Packages are outdated and the repo is not as vast as arch/aur

    • @dueldu70
      @dueldu70 6 років тому

      I like Debian because of its cool extras.
      There are offline installation DVDs with stuff to install on them. It even offers printable DVD covers.
      I have yet to see another distro with that.
      And it has a security feed, which is cool beans.
      I don't care that much about the "old" repository as it's still better than Ubuntu (that's been very old to my knowledge). And Sid (or however the testing release is called) has a more cutting-edge repo.

  • @Telopead
    @Telopead 6 років тому +1

    Completely agree.
    I started using Linux with Manjaro, for AUR. But then I found out that I have so many things I don't know about the system. So I threw myself into arch(no dual boot, just arch). Spending 2 weeks just to get everything working as manjaro did for me.
    So now I'm back to Manjaro because i think I have seen enough and just want a system that works. And I now feel pretty confident using manjaro

  • @JohnCBarbu
    @JohnCBarbu 7 років тому +7

    Awesome job with the video xD. The memes are strong with this one.

  • @platypuxbepo7319
    @platypuxbepo7319 7 років тому +2

    - « your distro is not the appearance » One of the most important truths in the Linux world.
    - My take on choosing it is : begin with what someone close to you can help you with if such a person exists. As Luke says, if you're fine, just stick with it. Computers are messy and buggy more often than not, and if it's doing the job fine, think yourself both happy and lucky. Then if the itch of change is coming up because of technical reasons, if you've got the time, do try something else on a separate drive or something. You may indeed find that a series a minor annoyances are tantamount to one big clusterfuck when you find something that really works better for you. For me the choice was very simple : was tired of realizing that a reinstall of ubuntu when changing versions was _for me_ always preferable performance-wise to just upgrading to the next version, so I investigated rolling distros. Arch being the popular thing it is, I installed it. I was proud of both the install and maintenance. Some upgrades can truly be challenging though… The most important thing when you run Arch, I'd say, is to subscribe the update newsletter rss feed thing : it's vital. Then some day I tested Manjaro, and after 3 years on the same Arch, I installed Manjaro because it sounded like I wouldn't need to tinker stuff and learn all the time, and it's been… about three years now. I love the easy maintenance (a yaourt -Syu once in a while and I'm good), the repos with AUR have everything I'll ever need without the need for stuff like PPAs. I haven't been a Linux forum in maybe 10 years, because I don't need to -and would never dare annoy people with stuff that I messed up out of sheer laxness.
    To be fair with Manjaro I've come to forget about fixing stuff. I really need to go the wikis once or twice a year for a quick reminder on how to do really simple stuff, because I can just afford not to care here. Now that I've discovered i3wm the system looks perfect, and in the process I've wanted to take a peek at what's going on in the world of distros, and some things are very interesting indeed, but my system is working, and I've got sooooo many other things I want to do. I'd really rather take some time to get into a programming crash course than learn how another init system or package manager works somewhere else.
    Lastly, I feel we should be thankful to live in age where many issues of the past are pretty much gone, for me hardware detection whimsicality among distros, and dependency hell. I liked my first openSuse, very first distro, but man when Ubuntu came around I was like now THAT's package managing. I don't think one has to deal with that sort of problem anymore, and that's like health, you don't notice how good it is when everything is running fine.
    tl;dr : I agree with Luke Smith (uploader), when your system works, learn to be content because you should. BUT you're totally free to take a peek elsewhere if you have the interest in you to see how things are done on the other side of the fence. Linux is a vast world, and if something bugs you but seemingly noone else in your community, chances are that it's bugged other people more knowledgeable than you who have found solutions to that. Just be mindful you might have to learn anew a whole lot of other things you took for granted if you want to take the leap. But hey, you can never know too much :-)

  • @VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE
    @VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE 5 років тому +14

    DISTRO-HOPPING is my will and you question it?!

  • @MrDarren690
    @MrDarren690 7 років тому +1

    I'm running Mint in VirtualBox-- first one ever! So far, it runs pretty well. Love Cinnamon-- in pictures, it looked a tad bit ugly, but when I actually run it and look at it some more, it *really is* elegant and clean. I feel right at home, especially the taskbar at the bottom. It's Windows-esque, but not like a clone or anything.

  • @NFM1337
    @NFM1337 7 років тому +17

    I've ended up doing quite a bit of distro-hopping when trying to get older hardware to run smoothly. I ended up getting a new computer. :/

  • @getout6174
    @getout6174 2 роки тому +1

    "Honostly, thinking of only taking up half loads with this shovel so it takes longer"
    that killed me

  • @rb391
    @rb391 7 років тому +3

    Thanks! Feeling much better now.

  • @MrJaakuza
    @MrJaakuza 5 років тому +1

    If I followed lukes advise about only switching if you can't do the stuff you need to do currently - then I'd still be using windows.

  • @purifierphoenixthemecca
    @purifierphoenixthemecca 7 років тому +8

    Arch runs smoother, faster, better, stronger...... Ubuntu is heavy as fuck. You also get that *yaourt* power which is a million times better than the shitty apt apt-get aptitude.... etc. But at the end of the day, Manjaro openbox is the best :)

    • @obvious_humor
      @obvious_humor 7 років тому

      Colton Turner
      I run vanilla Arch, with XFCE. Also, packer > yaourt. Same syntax as pacman and easier to type.

    • @aorusaki
      @aorusaki 7 років тому

      >using yaourt
      > not using pacman

    • @ARIADNARB
      @ARIADNARB 6 років тому

      Ubuntu is not heavy - heavy is Unity!

  • @rismosch
    @rismosch 2 роки тому +2

    As someone who was interested to switch to linux, this video convinced me to stick with windows.

  • @Standbackforscience
    @Standbackforscience 6 років тому +8

    Here for Varg. Very confused.

  • @roastbeefy0weefy
    @roastbeefy0weefy 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for introducing "satisfice" into my vocabulary

  • @tux9730
    @tux9730 7 років тому +5

    I have booted about 40 different versions of Linux of a live USB

  • @nizal9388
    @nizal9388 6 років тому +1

    Golden question: What fundamentally distinguishes distros from each other in the first place? Otherwise why were they even created "differently". Is it the file manager, and what else?

  • @raymondhill7837
    @raymondhill7837 7 років тому +27

    Sure feels like /fglt/ here.

  • @kyashmember5618
    @kyashmember5618 5 років тому +1

    Most important thing is that you get to access reliable documentations when you have stuck-ups using your distro.
    The good software has good documentations.
    My answer is OpenBSD.

    • @stunt_niklas452
      @stunt_niklas452 4 роки тому

      my answer is archlinux the wiki is just too damn good

  • @Evgen13Great
    @Evgen13Great 7 років тому +3

    I'm just went to switch to Antergos from Ubuntu 16.04 and watched this video... I stopped. Thanks :D
    P.S. it's my worst problem for 5 last years using Linux or Windows.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 7 років тому +1

    On the FSF stuff, I've got a free kernel, free core libs, free package manager, free desktop environment, free browser, free development tools, free office apps, etc. If I have to install a proprietary package for certain things like using my video card or playing Flash games, then while I don't like it, it's a limited and purposeful compromise that still takes place atop a free software core. If and when the free alternatives are able to do the job, I'll switch; the point is to have that option available.

  • @InvalidUser_
    @InvalidUser_ 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks I'm enjoying my time with Hannah Montana linux

  • @rationalraven8956
    @rationalraven8956 7 років тому

    Well I'm really not worried about having the wrong distro, I just enjoy trying out many different ones, I find it fun to get to know a new way of doing things.

  • @pip5528
    @pip5528 6 років тому +4

    "Not even Slackware!" or Gentoo for that matter. No one best distro exists. :)

  • @NickSBailey
    @NickSBailey 6 років тому

    Very wise words. I know people who never seem to use their Linux OS they're just constantly distro hopping trying to the perfect one. I'm glad I stopped years ago and learnt to tweak it instead and I'm happily productive with what I have.

  • @rockynets
    @rockynets 6 років тому +4

    Varg Vikernes is a distro? Wow I didn't know that.

  • @jesterflint9404
    @jesterflint9404 4 роки тому +1

    one of the best videos of luke, i might have watched it 400 times and got all script memorized, xD.

  • @mojoNoodlz
    @mojoNoodlz 6 років тому +4

    This video is contradictory, first half is don't think use what you've got and change what's not right, yet the second half, it's obvious you have to think which is the best distro for you. Your average user doesn't want to keep changing things and distros all the time, what they want is for it to work with minimal maintenance and not break. Sorry using Linux as your OS, it's all about thinking.

  • @cestarianinhabitant5898
    @cestarianinhabitant5898 5 років тому

    2:40 tfw I started in gentoo and have never used ubuntu.
    Normal progression: Ubuntu/Mint -> Fedora/Debian -> Arch -> Gentoo
    My progression: Gentoo -> Mint -> Arch -> Fedora -> Antergos(arch...) -> Manjaro(also arch...).
    I think distro hopping is important, I think people need to experience different distros to find out the right fit. I tried mint and fedora, and I couldn't live with the release model because ever since windows, rolling release has been the norm for me, and if I can't have the latest and greatest versions of software and drivers I just get mad! >:(
    Arch is cool, a fantastic learning experience, as is gentoo, but both are wayyyyyyy too high maintenance, even sometimes releasing updates that break the system and you will have to fix it somehow afterwards. Which is when I found manjaro which offers more or less everything I want, the perfect distro just for me, all the benefits of arch, none of the bullshit. Also arch being difficult to install is an absurd stigma, it's fucking easy; The installation guide is like 1 small wiki page, you only have to type in like 6 commands and configure 3 config files or something (by configure I mean add/change one setting per file)... And learning all that stuff is quite important for your future experiences on linux, so it's worth the time investment. Ubuntu gives you wings and pushes you off a cliff to glide, arch teaches you how to fly, and after learning to use it once, it won't really matter what distro you're using because you'll always retain the knowledge, and it more or less works the same on all distros. (I mean even if it doesn't, you will know what you're looking for)

  • @YanDoroshenko
    @YanDoroshenko 7 років тому +24

    I had to change to Arch because I did not have the software I needed at the moment on Ubuntu and Linux Mint and LMDE and Debian. And now I use it because I know how the shit works here and I can quickly tweak my stuff and get something working. Spent five hours at work getting Arch to the state I needed it to be and consider it to be totally worth it.

    • @DevilDead13820
      @DevilDead13820 6 років тому

      takumi445 Good point! But I also find Arch to be more fun and easier to maintain than other distros :/ That's entirely subjective though. I haven't looked into Flatpak, Snap and Docker yet, but I know that I like to have my entire system being bleeding edge.
      Question I have is: will my packages be automatically updated with the methods you list ?

    • @NishantSoniTV
      @NishantSoniTV 5 років тому +1

      Get Windows 10 buddy. Don't use crapware.

    • @kevinchavarria6792
      @kevinchavarria6792 5 років тому

      Once you go Arch you never go back to anything else

  • @JasonBillingham
    @JasonBillingham 6 років тому

    I almost don't want to admit how much this video helped me. Not because it wasn't good. In fact it was fantastic and I'll likely share it with a number of people... but more because this concept of the Paradox of Choice has been something that I get stuck in often, and never realized that A) it had a name, or B) was so simple to resolve if you just stopped to think about it for a minute. Thanks for posting this, and just know that this video won my sub (for what that's worth lol).

  • @koningbolo4700
    @koningbolo4700 5 років тому +62

    No choice really: Linux Mint rocks...

    • @fleefie
      @fleefie 5 років тому +11

      oh wELL ACTUALY

    • @hansvon2415
      @hansvon2415 5 років тому

      Mint is for plebs

    • @JonitoFischer
      @JonitoFischer 5 років тому +6

      Mint is for children, I compile my own distro with buildroot...

    • @matheus5230
      @matheus5230 5 років тому +10

      @@hansvon2415 Normal users are plebs. Stop with elitism

    • @jeetbajal8449
      @jeetbajal8449 5 років тому

      @@matheus5230 not helping, and what about plebs who want to grow?

  • @yt_user1772
    @yt_user1772 5 років тому +2

    Elementary OS. My favourite and easy to use distro. And it got stable. So I'm happy with that ;)

    • @comicsans1689
      @comicsans1689 5 років тому

      It's trying to emulate iToddler OS, so it's gonna be a no from me.

  • @BichaelStevens
    @BichaelStevens 5 років тому +3

    Why is manjaro and arch in the same pic? Manjaro is as easy as Ubuntu.

    • @boomerix
      @boomerix 5 років тому

      Because Manjaro is from the Arch family

  • @bnerd1
    @bnerd1 5 років тому +5

    i choose Pop!_OS

  • @douglas7656
    @douglas7656 5 років тому

    So many people confusing DEs with distros it is insane. Ubuntu LTS user running i3-gaps here. BTW I've learned a lot from your channel, appreciate it and cheers.

  • @wolverine9632
    @wolverine9632 7 років тому +1

    Excellent video. I started with Mint, and now I am using Arch. 4:46 - 5:55 had me cracking up, haha.

  • @bendibell
    @bendibell 5 років тому +3

    I've done a lot of distro hopping. The second desktop distribution I tried was Fedora, the first being Ubuntu. I have never found anything remotely as good as Fedora with as much polish, anywhere. Bleeding edge software that manages to be stable somehow, vanilla un-molested packages (looking at you, Debian), great support, and despite what you may have heard in 1998, Fedora's rpm-based package management is actually stellar nowadays, far better than Debian's stuff.

  • @ruralsquirrel5158
    @ruralsquirrel5158 5 років тому +1

    Barry got the term from a German phrase "die Qual der Wahl", which literally means "the agony of choice". Means the same thing.

  • @hamzakadd
    @hamzakadd 7 років тому +2

    You've done a pretty good job a that video, keep up!

  • @l.d.barneske8qbi5
    @l.d.barneske8qbi5 5 років тому

    Luke you are absolutely correct, the Linux Kernel is the engine. Desktop environments and whatnot's are all the same, Gnome is Gnome is Gnome, likewise Xfce etc. For me I needed something Fedora had that Ubuntu didn't it was as simple as Anaconda not loading correctly otherwise, not a hill of beans different unless one wants to nit pick.

  •  5 років тому +3

    I think distro-hopping is very advantageous, and I think every new Linux user should spend at least six months distro hopping, trying out a new distro every couple of weeks. Unlike buying jeans, distro hopping is mostly free (the only cost being your time). There is nothing you can break that a clean install won't fix (if you've backed up your data), so spend some time trying out all the popular distros and desktop environments. Eventually, the novelty feeling of distro hopping passes, and so everyone settles down on a preferred combination. But the process itself gives a Linux newbie precious experience and realistic expectations (yes, it's generally true that there is no such thing as the best distro, except , of course), much better than a UA-cam video could.
    So I don't see why anyone would advise against distro hopping. The worst thing you can do as a newbie is to install Ubuntu with GNOME and just run with it no matter how unpleasant your experience is. I find that contrary to the Linux spirit. It is perfectly okay to switch to Arch, have a miserable time for a couple of weeks, and switch back to Ubuntu. :D

  • @spitfirefrench
    @spitfirefrench 5 років тому +1

    Freedom of choice - is what you got.
    Freedom from choice - is what you want.

  • @ain.7995
    @ain.7995 7 років тому +10

    I like your video, here, have my like and subscription!

  • @TenderBug
    @TenderBug 7 років тому

    hey man, your talk is superb and full of wisdom i wish I knew them before I literally tried 8 Linux (Redhat, Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, Kali, CentOS, Drago, Arch) with the hope of finding my version of excalibur lol. But then I understood its ridiculous to switch, because any Linux system is capable of doing what other Linux system can do. My final candidate was Arch and its been my home since then. So Window manager, Desktop environment etc components are the variables here that I need to change in order to build up my productivity on Linux. Switching between them fixed my many issues and gain knowledge even.
    this is the first time I stepped in to this channel. Thanks for sharing awesome stuff and keep up.

  • @polyproxy
    @polyproxy 5 років тому +3

    Hey, you! Yes, you! Can't you search a perfect Linux Distro for you?
    **create ur own distro, fool**
    Call now! Only 120 billions!

  • @LaughingMan_
    @LaughingMan_ 7 років тому

    I just discovered your videos, and i love them. You got some awesome stuff man, kudos to you. Thank you :)

  • @DevvOscar
    @DevvOscar 7 років тому +4

    What distro or desktop environent is that on 8:30?

    • @LukeSmithxyz
      @LukeSmithxyz  7 років тому

      Ubuntu Unity, as it happens.
      Here's a link to where I got it: www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/3f4o7t/unity_im_new_to_all_this_howd_i_do/

    • @sweetberries4611
      @sweetberries4611 5 років тому

      i3wm desktop environent

  • @katiew0mpus
    @katiew0mpus 2 роки тому

    This helped me stop agonizing over what I'm doing with my life, thank you

  • @TableWolfMusic
    @TableWolfMusic 7 років тому +3

    So, I was wondering (what with all the memes and vidme,minds references) if any of this was meant to be serious, and I realised that it actually is. The video is not joking by the end. And it isn't even changing its mind as if its a post-ironic humour.
    I can solve this. The first implicit assumption of the video is if somebody (the linux "undecided people") is a beginner. Immediately, they'd therefore need some fairly modern machine (not some old dual core) so they can choose ubuntu (or kubuntu etc) with it running well. However then the video goes into the realms of people who are not beginners. Well, then they aren't really going to seek advice from the video then are they? I didn't thumbs down the video. I'm just saying.
    Then the video suggests people might only want something purely FOSS. By that point (all ubuntu information paranoia aside) they'd know about FOSS and how to find out.
    So, lastly the video tends towards the idea of the undecided people having no qualms about FOSS or proprietary (either is cool to them) and those people also seem more knowledgeable considering what is spoken of. It also hints at drivers being an issue. Again, as per the start, computing horsepower is no real barrier. For this there is really a solution that would work. Use BSD (specifically PC-BSD aka TrueOS) which has (compared to many linux distros) good proprietary drivers, and use its linux compatability layer to run linux in a container (so you would not actually see PC-BSD per se at all), and simply, the chosen linux in the container would be "Mate Debian Linux Mint" because it updates automatically to be bleeding edge. You can use the ZFS on the BSD and btrfs in debian mate mint. Even though the PC-BSD containing mate-debian-mint setup is for "advanced users" who are not in the beginner subset of people (ubunut), PC-BSD is really rather easy to get started. You don't need jails and so on unless a power user. Nobody considering gentoo for example would need the video. These people don't care that PC-BSD won't be all FOSS. Also the auto-updating of that particular Mint (debian-mate-mint) means it will always be updated without thinking of it. Then if you hate an update, the snapshot or rollback of zfs (or btrfs) solves that.
    Also for propritary wifi drivers, you could try ndiswrapper for wifi if you really needed it.