Continuing Chinese Intrusion Very Worrying, Modi’s Response Took Pressure Off Beijing: Shyam Saran

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  • “China’s 17 week-old intrusions into Ladakh are very worrying … one intention is to establish itself as Asia’s big power and cut India down to size … there are serious concerns about our response … China believes disengagement is complete … exercising a military option could lead to conflict which Pakistan is likely to exploit … we don’t have serious economic options that will deter Beijing … re-thinking relationship with Taiwan and/or The Dalai Lama will provoke a major Chinese response … Meanwhile the situation has affected how our neighbours see India … India may have the will to equal China’s standing but as of now lacks the capacity”: former Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran in an interview to Karan Thapar for The Wire.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 569

  • @FurryOrangeRabbit
    @FurryOrangeRabbit 4 роки тому +4

    Listen carefully from around 6:10. During the Kargil War, we had moved our troops from Pangong Tso to Kargil in order to reinforce our strength at the war front. When our troops returned to Pangong Tso, they found that the Chinese had moved in. Since then, both sides used to patrol some stretch of land. Now, that is no more being permitted, and we are out. I don't think this had ever been reported.

  • @GoingwiththeflowSuwi
    @GoingwiththeflowSuwi 4 роки тому +1

    very well informed interview.. got to learn a lot of about many left out important issues which our Tv media houses are deliberately avoiding.. but we as citizens needs to be informed cuz that's how we can pressurize our government to work accordingly afterall India has a democratically chosen leader not an imperial ruler..

  • @maharakram6237
    @maharakram6237 4 роки тому +1

    Very realistic analysis. Wonderful

  • @rajeshchristian7841
    @rajeshchristian7841 4 роки тому

    Well done Karan Thapar, continue to take up issues like this which others dare not to. Appreciate the way you dissect them and go in depth. Pl continue to do this leaving to hearers to decide whatever they want.

  • @Realchap
    @Realchap 4 роки тому +5

    Excellent interview👍

  • @muhammadwarisbhatti5610
    @muhammadwarisbhatti5610 4 роки тому +7

    A realistic and comprehensive analysis by Mr Seran. India needs to resolve issues and improve relations with its neighbours .

    • @podadi
      @podadi 4 роки тому

      China's idea is to connect CPEC through ladhak ... so no way we can accept this since the shagskan valley is illegaly occupied by china and pak

    • @haragopal1
      @haragopal1 4 роки тому

      Nonsence u think our neighbours are normal..... We have to figure out a way to handle them that's it

    • @muhammadwarisbhatti5610
      @muhammadwarisbhatti5610 4 роки тому +2

      @@haragopal1 India being the biggest country in SAARC should have been magnanimous instead of a bullying gaint towards its smaller neighbours. Had India looked after its neighbours, Indian position during China India stand off would have been different.
      If you keep intimidating your neighbours, then its your choice and get humiliated similar to that of Ladak embarrassment.

    • @muhammadwarisbhatti5610
      @muhammadwarisbhatti5610 4 роки тому

      @Chevalier Rish affirmative. India as a bigger country should be more generous and resolve Kashmir issue peacefully with Pakistan . India should not be trapped by USA and wage war with China because Americans leave their friends in need.

  • @tonydar1353
    @tonydar1353 4 роки тому

    You are the best I have seen coming from India

  • @falsafayg
    @falsafayg 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent! Multi-facet and realistic analyses.

  • @lhouwepemekru5369
    @lhouwepemekru5369 4 роки тому +1

    Best interview 🙏🙏.. What he says is very true.. I enjoy till the last👍

  • @maximahoro8970
    @maximahoro8970 4 роки тому +3

    As usual, Karan Thapar has nailed it. He has managed an extremely incisive and BRILLIANT interaction with one of our leading diplomats, Shyam Saran ji, in a frank and objective assessment of the Chinese slap on India's face. God Bless. Jai-Hind. Jai-Bajrang-Bali.

  • @ahmeddurrani1513
    @ahmeddurrani1513 4 роки тому +1

    Informative and balanced analysis

  • @sukumarthothathiri981
    @sukumarthothathiri981 4 роки тому +15

    Now you understand, why India is in the position where it was under the previous governments.
    When you take the decisions without knowing your power, underestimating yourself and overestimating enemies and always take decisions with fear of enemy in mind what will happen is very clear from the conversation.
    Of course Karan Thapar will always enjoy underestimating Indian power.

    • @poswalkuldeep
      @poswalkuldeep 4 роки тому +2

      So pseudo is Karan body language....😅😅😅😅

    • @sajidmajeed5321
      @sajidmajeed5321 4 роки тому

      And Modi is going to take gilgit and POK

  • @prof.hamidali7650
    @prof.hamidali7650 4 роки тому +2

    Hon Thapar & Saran Sirs, an honest Analysis.

  • @prakashparashar2920
    @prakashparashar2920 4 роки тому +10

    After several months I see Karan Thapar's interview without any background echoes.
    Very candidly asked and answered as well. Very very interesting and eye-opening.

    • @munirahmed8229
      @munirahmed8229 4 роки тому

      Very good analysis that you indians very scared of China and not from Pakistan coz Pakistan is lot smaller than u ; why don’t your ruler and Pakistan ruler to dominish poverty from both countries like China did last 50 year or stop bullying their smaller and weak Nabour and look after their own poor peoples welfare

  • @mohamedinayathulla357
    @mohamedinayathulla357 4 роки тому +4

    Mr Karan , very informative interview about Chinese intrusion and occupying our territory.

  • @anup7568
    @anup7568 4 роки тому +2

    Such an excellent and insightful analysis this has been! a far cry from much of the noise that plays out on certain other channels.

  • @girishsingh395
    @girishsingh395 4 роки тому +16

    Both have Jaundice in their eyes

  • @centerleft4957
    @centerleft4957 4 роки тому +1

    Great interview. Thank you.

  • @lucymanuel1657
    @lucymanuel1657 4 роки тому +1

    As the Chinese had mentioned 'We did not cross the line (LAC)', We just push the line further to our advantage. We

  • @petername2608
    @petername2608 4 роки тому +13

    Modi is all talk and china is about action.

  • @rajavelusekaran1474
    @rajavelusekaran1474 4 роки тому

    A precise analysis of indo-china relations by a intellectual diplomat ,Mr. ShyamSaran. Present GOI should take necessary points from this intereaction before plunging into any misadventure.

  • @mohsinkazmi9790
    @mohsinkazmi9790 4 роки тому +12

    Why is Manmohan Singh considered a weak Prime Minister by the Indian public when he did not lose Indian territory to the Chinese..

  • @ramookaka
    @ramookaka 4 роки тому +8

    When you see these two faces, and the discussion around modi, you need not listen. You always know what outcome it will lead to. Such is the hate these guys have and such is their love for the other party.

    • @ramookaka
      @ramookaka 4 роки тому

      @fedup wannaquit Bhai I am a bhakt, yes I am. But I am reasonable. Tell me one interview by WIRE where this hate is not apparent.

    • @Junaid6646
      @Junaid6646 4 роки тому

      Where did you put 'reason' in your comment ? Your comment is nothing but what one classifies as sweeping generalization. Your hate against what you are calling hate is also very apparent.

  • @deepaserious
    @deepaserious 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks Karan for this elaborate explanation on border issues

  • @dramjad1712
    @dramjad1712 4 роки тому

    We love Indian people... May peace prevails..

  • @irkizad1
    @irkizad1 4 роки тому

    This is true a journalist

  • @afzal.a.neseem7458
    @afzal.a.neseem7458 4 роки тому +1

    A brilliant discussion. The questions were incisive with very little emotionalism. Mr Shyam Saran came across as being knowledgeable, objective, balanced, analytical, comprehensive and scholarly. I wonder with capable men like him in the policy/decision making process how has India chosen to becomes an arrogant and aggressive state whose neighbours may be afraid of its economic and military power but have little respect for it.

  • @kaustubh14jr
    @kaustubh14jr 4 роки тому +5

    His father lost the 1962 war. This guy should go and hide in shame

  • @krishnansm438
    @krishnansm438 4 роки тому +7

    What were you doing when they took our territory in your period ?

    • @thinkbyskhan707
      @thinkbyskhan707 4 роки тому

      56' chest

    • @Newuser821
      @Newuser821 3 роки тому

      @@thinkbyskhan707
      Not 56 isko 1 inch be nahi

    • @akshayagrawal5114
      @akshayagrawal5114 3 роки тому

      People punished that by voting them out of power.What are you going to do about it now,that's the question

  • @raizameer3728
    @raizameer3728 4 роки тому +5

    Solution to Indian problem:-
    The nutshell of this discussion is that war with China is no option for India.
    The only solution to India is " to change the block. Say good bye to US, Israel and Asiaan and join China, Russia, Pakistan, Turky, Iran block".
    Solve Kashmir issue with Pakistan and border issues with China. It will be easy once India changes its block.
    But RSS minded India is not capable to do it. So the Tukrde Tukrde of India is written on the wall.

    • @Aiza45
      @Aiza45 4 роки тому +1

      I concur with you -

    • @prakashparashar2920
      @prakashparashar2920 4 роки тому

      When did they say to join China, Russia, Pakistan, Turkey and leave US, Israel?
      Is this nutshell of this interview ???
      Be a good listener transcending your own biases....
      Baat baat me RSS RSS nahi karte ijjat kam hoti hai.

  • @pcpraman3219
    @pcpraman3219 4 роки тому +13

    Sir... but Narendra Modi told me on national television that there is not a single Chinese Soldier on my side of the border...

    • @pcpraman3219
      @pcpraman3219 4 роки тому +2

      @S S 😀😀😀

    • @ashfaqhussain7996
      @ashfaqhussain7996 4 роки тому +1

      good, then what's the issue?

    • @sudhanshushandilya
      @sudhanshushandilya 4 роки тому +1

      @@ashfaqhussain7996 issue is if you open your eyes that there's a disputed border... a sp called no man's land. If you change your position and march into that area its technically not indian land but not even chinese. And even if the chinese are say in India at least the government is trying to push them out. I mean just because you hate the man you will not stand by him even of the country's security is at stake. You know what people like you should really be careful of the stand you are taking. The country's mood is very very different and you are heavily outnumbered.

    • @0690zma
      @0690zma 4 роки тому

      @@sudhanshushandilya Muslims can't be Loyal and Patriotic towards India... atleast nowadays... Islam is all that matters and Islamic state is their only desire... it might sound like a hate speech but unfortunately it's true... India's mood has changed so these people too will change if they want to survive...

    • @kiwiwala
      @kiwiwala 4 роки тому

      This biased anchor does not understand difference between defined territory of India and the buffer zone/no man's land/disputed territory which India claims.....and the Chinese transgressions. This is a time to stand solidly behind the country. The analysis can come later when everything is over.

  • @MiW0005
    @MiW0005 4 роки тому

    Very bright indian Mr Saran !

  • @pcpraman3219
    @pcpraman3219 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent audio quality after a long time.... nice interview.... thanks

  • @lokendrachauhan8118
    @lokendrachauhan8118 4 роки тому +1

    I think, had The Wire delayed their interview by a day, the conversation would have been completely different. Wonder if Karan would like to analyse the situation again in the light of new developments. Mr Shyam Saran's clarity on the subject is educative.

  • @rajnj1809
    @rajnj1809 4 роки тому

    Thank You Karan

  • @MrAshraf1949
    @MrAshraf1949 4 роки тому +2

    Great and honest anchor. We love your program.

  • @HarishSalujaArtist
    @HarishSalujaArtist 4 роки тому +1

    Important matters discussed with evasive answers.

  • @malikjb4166
    @malikjb4166 4 роки тому

    Very impartial, realistic and deep analysis reflects in this talk. 👍

  • @vksharma7956
    @vksharma7956 4 роки тому +17

    Apart from security aspect, the talks are wide ranging from economic, diplomatic and mutual security relationship with other countries like Australia, America, Japan and eastern Asian countries. On the whole very wide discussion in depth.

  • @rafiqquadri4588
    @rafiqquadri4588 4 роки тому +28

    It was criminal negligence on the part of Pradhan Chawkidar Modi, who gave NOC to China that Chinese neither intruded nor they are inside !!
    It's a classic case of intelligence failure & responsibilities to be fixed.
    The action of China is tactical by which they have engaged our forces to a very long border right from Arunachal up to Kashmir which is disadvantageous especially when economy has plunged nose dive & Kashmir on broil & also developments in Afghanistan.

    • @deepaserious
      @deepaserious 4 роки тому

      Absolutely agree

    • @apunay7959
      @apunay7959 4 роки тому +1

      The border issue should have been settled peacefully with some give and take a long time ago, and is not entirely the fault of the current government. That was what the Russian did with the Chinese, and they move on without this issue surfacing in their relationship since.

    • @sarojkaushik6225
      @sarojkaushik6225 4 роки тому +1

      He told that "na koi humari seema me aaya hai. Nahi hi humari kisi chauki per kisi ka kubja hai. "

    • @walimohammad7525
      @walimohammad7525 4 роки тому

      Sometime we have to think that PM n President of China has a something in their mind to give surprised in due time as both PM n President took tea on river while SWING in a very remembered movements indicating a solid friendship. Even PM had been in China 18 to 19 times as a PM n CM too.

    • @apunay7959
      @apunay7959 4 роки тому

      @Diptasree Choudhuri Stop whining, he is paid to be a soldier and not sitting in AC room talking.

  • @jayeshnair8251
    @jayeshnair8251 4 роки тому +10

    And when India captures black top you conveniently talk about GDP falling by 24% what a hyporcracy 😂

    • @SachinLKO1
      @SachinLKO1 4 роки тому +1

      This self-defeating attitude is the reason why these Wire NDTV are now hated.

    • @thinkbyskhan707
      @thinkbyskhan707 4 роки тому

      You Republic TV is loved

  • @regionalsingh2765
    @regionalsingh2765 4 роки тому +4

    This is a legendary interview.... that is exactly how things are going to take place...🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🙏

  • @tabishbeigh
    @tabishbeigh 4 роки тому +15

    If Modi Ji says there is no intrusion there is no Intrusion, if Modi Ji says there is no China there is No China. End of the story!

    • @buttert5091
      @buttert5091 4 роки тому +2

      If Modi says you can fly, then you can fly
      End of story right?

    • @tabishbeigh
      @tabishbeigh 4 роки тому +4

      Butter T dare i say no to something Modi Ji says 😄

    • @buttert5091
      @buttert5091 4 роки тому +2

      @@tabishbeighthats a funny answer 😅

  • @colrajdhan
    @colrajdhan 4 роки тому

    These people were ready to sell the country down the river. Providence saved us. Thank goodness.

  • @AliHussain-fz7pd
    @AliHussain-fz7pd 4 роки тому +31

    This notion that the PM was poorly advised before making his statement about "koi hamare seema meh ghussa nahin hai" is false. It is entirely congruent with his personality to avoid probing scrutiny. He has kept the media at bay from day 1, choosing instead to make statements through social media, he rarely sits down for 1-on-1 interviews. When Karan himself interviewed him over Gujrat riots, he ended the interview after 6 minutes. He's quite happy to simply deny and divert attention.

    • @shivkumaragarwal8425
      @shivkumaragarwal8425 4 роки тому

      My dear try to understand thought process of Feku. Pl listen Kannan Gopinathan IAS.

    • @KayEmnz
      @KayEmnz 4 роки тому +2

      @@shivkumaragarwal8425 Kanan Gopinathan, EX IAS is good and worth listening to. He talks, among other things, of our faulty voting system with insider knowledge and as an Engineer. But I do think, so does Ali Hussain. modi IS denying that the Chinese are in our territory (even when satellite photos show otherwise) and he DID walk out of Karan Thapar's interview when the questions became too uncomfortable for him. [But yes, to reiterate, Gopinathan is excellent. Worth subscribing to. I think he is on Twitter.]

    • @AliHussain-fz7pd
      @AliHussain-fz7pd 4 роки тому +1

      @Little John i cant get over shit performance. We sign up to vote, not for 5 year applause contract. As far as foreign policy, economy, defence, and national security, he's a fail. I don't give a shit to be honest whether you believe that I'm a 2-time BJP voter or not, or that I think Congress is a Gandhi owned directionless party with no vision. Bottom line is that he's lied to the nation to compliment his performances and you will get used to hearing expressions of disappointment from every community.

    • @AliHussain-fz7pd
      @AliHussain-fz7pd 4 роки тому +2

      How rich of you to say bigots don’t deserve a chance here. We are in a bad bad situation caused entirely by this Govt, extremely poor performance in the economy, Covid, defence, national security, horrific foreign policy losing all regional allies, unprofessional management of ministry of information with amateur statement, news reports directed by Sanjay Leela Bansali, but apparently to idiots like you, it’s nationalistic to stay quiet. No, you are not patriots. Leave political affiliations aside and tell me something truthfully, if it was Congress that delivered the same results as BJP have, would you be open to criticising them or not..because I definitely would.

    • @AliHussain-fz7pd
      @AliHussain-fz7pd 4 роки тому

      @Chevalier Rish in 2014 all of SAARC was called to the inauguration. Nepal firing on the border, unilateral map change, will not discuss it, infrastructure projects with China going full steam ahead. Bangladesh keep Shringla waiting for 5 hours, end up showing footage of him meeting Hasina from his last trip. Trade tariffs with China reduced massively, surge in Chinese investment. Sri Lanka has Rajapaksa in power the guy who accused RAW of destabilising Sri Lanka for decades openly, calls China for a loan. China an open enemy usurping allies with Investment, Modi met Xi 18 times, couldnt even keep them neutral. A superb Iranian project giving access to from Iran for India product to Azerbaijan & into landlocked Central Asia, and into Europe through Turkey to rival BRI..gone. Yesterday you can see Jaishankar's face at SCO, we were hoping that Russia would publicly call for calm in front of both foreign ministers as Wang Yi was there, nothing. Russia is expanding ties with Pakistan likely at the behest of China. It's a fucking shit show. But on the positive side we've managed to hold on to Bhutan and Maldives. You're ignorant.

  • @ikramabbasi3370
    @ikramabbasi3370 4 роки тому

    Good analysis worth appreciation.
    Please note that China is a an established power of the region. India must accept this reality. How you can compare a country with India whose economic size is five times.

  • @cossack9588
    @cossack9588 4 роки тому

    Once bitten twice shy.

  • @musallibagwan1645
    @musallibagwan1645 4 роки тому

    Beautiful interview
    The speaker is great

  • @ntchophichophi8656
    @ntchophichophi8656 4 роки тому

    Yes truth is bitter.

  • @mujeebsyed6113
    @mujeebsyed6113 4 роки тому +2

    I think it is time we show our chapan inch ka sena, Chinese are waiting to see the sena

  • @hometypist1966
    @hometypist1966 4 роки тому

    Activity is taking place but when the focus of the Press in India and Indians wanes, then what action is the Govt going to do. Another thing is that so much hue and cry initially and now Govt is so silent that nothing is wrong.

  • @HunToLearn
    @HunToLearn 4 роки тому +7

    What an anaysis .. Great content. Quality content

  • @raghuoza3756
    @raghuoza3756 4 роки тому

    Karan bhai in war economy is not important , who are with you that is important an aggressiveness of soldiers of India is very high,so you don't worry for any escalation

  • @amarindersingh5438
    @amarindersingh5438 4 роки тому +1

    please hold segment about punjab referendum 2020.

    • @CompuViz
      @CompuViz 4 роки тому

      You want the referendum or you are against referendum. What discussion is there, Sikh living abroad wants ref 2020, where as sikhs living in pujab and haryana, who knows?

  • @jaideepmukerjee5200
    @jaideepmukerjee5200 4 роки тому

    Very comprehensive n well conducted interview Karan. Some enlightening insights by Shyam Saran analyzing the Sino Indian equation as on today n the invaluable learnings from our present predicament.

  • @NewestDocumentaries
    @NewestDocumentaries 4 роки тому

    Well done, good show! China has so much disputes but it remained silent until it became super power and won confidence of big investors. Now no country can afford to attack China because it would directly hit the world economy and the investors won't allow that. Why India can't adopt that approach?

  • @SatishKumar-zs5yd
    @SatishKumar-zs5yd 4 роки тому +2

    I don't see any accountability by the Ministry of Defence or the Indian Army. Should folks have owned up to negligence and resigned?

  • @manidas7723
    @manidas7723 4 роки тому +1

    Karan is really happy whenever India is in a bad position. Can he say which settled boundary map he is referring for his inferences?? China is so near to his heart that he is sure the India is just no match to him

  • @SarbatdaBhala1469
    @SarbatdaBhala1469 4 роки тому +8

    Why do we not discuss about Chinese strength and technical advantage over us in field of Electronics, Cyber, Space and Rocket warfare and above all the man management, governance, Infrastructure and military industrial complex.
    There is a paradigm shift in the way warfare used to happen in 19 and 20th century, we are still in that archaic era while china has moved to the 21st century. They will cripple our logistics first and only then will engage us directly. Example Gulf War .. USA vs IRAQ ..
    We should acknowledge the reality and correct our ways which include thinking and preparing accordingly.

  • @dnyaneshwarrindhe3974
    @dnyaneshwarrindhe3974 4 роки тому +1

    I hope Mr Karan Thapar will do one program comparing counter action taken by Indian Army under leadership of then chief of Army Mr P N Thaper in 1962 which India did not do in current situation. He keeps on taking about it during interview. And unfortunately we know what happened in 1962 war under leadership of P N Thaper. Who has resigned after 1962 war.

  • @wanimudasir2576
    @wanimudasir2576 4 роки тому +7

    Not Indian territory
    Kashmir.s territory

  • @puppyplaymeow123
    @puppyplaymeow123 4 роки тому +2

    Enjoyed the interview thoroughly . I suggest that Karan Thapar should also stress on the importance of national consensus on foreign policy and not being subservient to domestic politics agenda . That any communication to China had the mandate of the entire country which is totally lacking now . The impression being created in India now is that every step is being largely one man centric to protect his image or to promote the Hindutva agenda at the cost of the national interest . As evident especially in the case of Bangladesh when the Home Minister called Bangladeshis ' termites" and since then has been screwing India's relations with Bangladesh .

  • @Junaid6646
    @Junaid6646 4 роки тому

    What I like the most about Mr. Shyam Saran that he talks in a very clear and precise manner.

  • @ManpreetSingh-kb5xe
    @ManpreetSingh-kb5xe 4 роки тому +7

    India must think again on their foreign policies,weather they like to play into americans hand

    • @apunay7959
      @apunay7959 4 роки тому

      @Diptasree Choudhuri He is doing what he's paid for as a Soldier, otherwise he should be working as a porter, waiter, or tea seller. Stop whining and get ready to celebrate his martyrdom.

    • @azrasaeed8926
      @azrasaeed8926 4 роки тому

      @Diptasree Choudhuri Do you know what's happening in Kashmir? Have you ever thought about those innocent children, raped girls, young widows, elderly parents, broken families.... feel the pain what they are suffering for the last 70+ years in the hands of your so-called brave troops... just think about it

    • @azrasaeed8926
      @azrasaeed8926 4 роки тому

      @@apunay7959 true--- get ready to receive the body

  • @24Alien
    @24Alien 4 роки тому

    India is standing up against the bully, and that is very right thing to do. Such cowardice is shameful to all Indians Karan & Co, to fear Chona and worry about war etc. It doesn't matter who wins, if there will be war etc. Just stand up now against China, that's it, because that is right thing to do. Consequences secondary, because even China is irresponsible, even rest of the world humanity as well. Why are these people just worrying saying economy, economy, they don't know any other human values, except money! Shameful, if we dont stand up for human values and justice.

  • @changamanga100
    @changamanga100 4 роки тому +19

    All said and done, the Chinese intrusion is not significant even for them. Ladakh episode is more of a message to India.
    Chinese strategists consider that when they were trying to improve gravely deteriorating bilateral ties with US triggered by Covid-19 pandemic, the road construction by India near disputed territory in Ladakh was seen as an attempt to stab China in the back while it was busy tackling the US.
    China wants to send a message that the Chinese have no problem with India, but they have a problem with Modi’s China strategy. China wants to make territorial nationalism unusable as an electoral agenda for Modi by changing the status quo along the Sino-Indian border right before the 2024 general election. China is in no hurry to settle the border dispute with India, as it sees the situation as hanging an albatross on Modi's neck.

    • @gopinathanju6216
      @gopinathanju6216 4 роки тому

      1962?

    • @ztheeagle9053
      @ztheeagle9053 4 роки тому

      Actually well said,.....I would like to add that is a way to secure the CPEC which is very close to ladkh

    • @changamanga100
      @changamanga100 4 роки тому +1

      @@ztheeagle9053 CPEC route is on the top, Khunjrab Pass, no where near Ladakh.

    • @vjviju8125
      @vjviju8125 4 роки тому +1

      China was in no hurry to settle border from 1947...in 1962 too was also a message to India ... But this time they got reply...

    • @ztheeagle9053
      @ztheeagle9053 4 роки тому

      @@vjviju8125 affirmative reply that no one has entered india property....so the area transgressed in all to keep .......

  • @jawaidmanzoor4396
    @jawaidmanzoor4396 4 роки тому +2

    While you are talking, Chinese are listening - their real strength.

  • @joganandapanda9736
    @joganandapanda9736 4 роки тому

    We should have reclaimed the same piece of land in 1962-63. We should not try to settle everything diplomatically.

  • @kbgirel6965
    @kbgirel6965 4 роки тому +1

    It’s a karma you do that to Nepal everyday so now you know where it hurts

  • @afzalahmad6427
    @afzalahmad6427 4 роки тому

    Very clear vision exists here, TILL the day india will revise its stand on CPEC. India will keep on loosing the land including all Ladakh and complete Kashmir....I pray may GOD bless the life span to both of you, will remember my words......Inshallah.

    • @ssb9054
      @ssb9054 4 роки тому

      Man you guys are delusional and I sincerely hope it remains that way. Pakistan will be a superpower, just keep borrowing from china as much as you can. We will take the hard way of doing things on our own, if history taught us anything being a satellite state of superpowers ends in disaster. Hopefully journalists like these who criticize people in power, survive in your country to show you the mirror.

  • @sajidqaiser477
    @sajidqaiser477 4 роки тому

    Very respectfully, India must negotiate with Kashmir and Pakistan, please let’s solve the tension and hate issues, why to let the poor people suffer?

  • @humayunbawkher5372
    @humayunbawkher5372 4 роки тому +6

    India went wrong on China by straying fixated on Pak despite having border wars and skirmishes with China. It stayed optimistic and possibly delusional with respect to China for 70 plus years. Hopefully, it now know better and that it should not just stay fixated on Pak. U

  • @sunilkdash
    @sunilkdash 4 роки тому

    Now India has moved it's position to do bargain.

  • @maharakram6237
    @maharakram6237 4 роки тому

    Shyam Saran, truly an intellectual diplomat

  • @zakali653
    @zakali653 4 роки тому

    Save Kashmir free Kashmir. From Indian illegally occupied Kashmir.

    • @GM_-
      @GM_- 4 роки тому

      Pakistan and China collaborating to produce biological weapons including anthrax, this has been reported in the international press.
      India will have no choice but to deal with Pakistan in a similar way.

  • @wheelogger
    @wheelogger 4 роки тому

    Going the Larry King way!!

  • @sidharthdey1844
    @sidharthdey1844 4 роки тому +1

    *Please make a continuity* *video of the wire series* *of **#RajdhaniKeRahasya* *on **#CBIAsthana** story.*
    *We really want to know* *the full story.*
    🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @akram123uk
    @akram123uk 4 роки тому +13

    Pm Modi's has made it very clear no one is intruding or has intruded in Indian Territory, there for no action is needed,

    • @tjjosejoseph9594
      @tjjosejoseph9594 4 роки тому +5

      Modi made statement that no one has taken an inch of
      Indian land is for domestic consumption. Its for diehard
      Modi fans.

    • @akram123uk
      @akram123uk 4 роки тому

      @vivek yes Modi is much better, because Modi has screwed baharat Matas ass well and proper, India don't need enemy when Modi is in power, he alone can destroy India,

    • @Vshwdkshnh
      @Vshwdkshnh 4 роки тому +2

      @@akram123uk Chal be bhikari... As the US has said, Pakistani will sell their mothers for few thousand dollars... why r we giving them millions.

  • @tanu3333
    @tanu3333 4 роки тому +18

    When Modi 's both best friends have favoured personally to Modi ..but Modi shares those favours with RSS not to country.

    • @ramaraju7754
      @ramaraju7754 4 роки тому

      Why don't u beg favours from rss for yourself. Idiot saying as u witness it.

  • @debashispattanaik5709
    @debashispattanaik5709 4 роки тому

    Thanks Mr Thapar for the talk show. While Mr Saran is very pragmatic & grounded your queries & followups on the responses of Mr Shyam betray your deep rooted pessimism on the current scenario. Why don’t you try to be even handed ?

  • @masroorjaved4898
    @masroorjaved4898 4 роки тому +11

    When our prime minister says no one has invaded our territory what that's mean

  • @arunkumarroy3725
    @arunkumarroy3725 4 роки тому +1

    Dear Karan Thapar sir! A incisive analysis is being adduced here under on the issues as discussed by you with our ex- foreign secretary Shyam saran in this interview . The main problem is in China's extreme desire to establish hegemony in Asia, developing India is the obstruction especially when it refused to embrace BOR project and paying much more attention on it"s border infra structure projects.And to thwart India' initiative it is adopting on the dictum of an ancient Chinese phrase "beat the monkey on tree to scare the tigers nearby"here in the modern context it should be read as economic tigers.We have to fight our own battle ourself we should not remained in false illusion.All big power will open their arms baskets and lure us to purchase more and more arms and equipments from them as recently seen that how shrewed Russia offered latest version of Sukhoi for sale to our defence minister during his recent visit to Moscow keeping silent on our border dispute with China as nervous political leadership in N.Delhi is the prospective customer to them. As already mentioned in my earlier comment that our economy is in doldrum neither we are in a position to beat war drum nor the Chinese for their vested economic interest with India but at the same time they are financing our neighbouring countries in various projects there to exert influence also on their political systems.Present leadership is doing right by toeing on the same line as set by our previous governments on the border dispute with China---Jane bhi deo Yaar with full military preparation."But at the same time on the heights of Laadakh to Sikkim let our long range missiles equipped with nukes be positioned to draw a red line.So far on our capacity to face actual confrontation on ground we must take cue from Vietnam how they countered Chinese aggression there. We are strong enough to defend our selves with present arms and ammunition but not to be entrapped in war hysteria to go for vicious circle of arms importing. But in the larger gamut of the strategic interest of India it should do its best to in influence Pentagon that let there should be maximum delay in withdrawing American troops from Afghanistan as void thus will be created there will certainly be filled in by Dragon as it has already spread it's tentacles in Iran by signing an economic pact of four hundred billion dollars. It has really a severe warning bell ringing in the horizon of Asia much to the detrimental to the Indo -American interest We must convince the Pentagon to give India free hand to go extra miles to come close to Iran as we have already put a mile stone at Cha bahar project.Let it prosper to the interest of western world also.A prosperous Indo Iranian friend ship will also serve as bridge of peace in the middle east.At the time of writing this comment we wish that let the peace talk at Doha fail to the larger interest of democratic world.A.K.ROY.9340731080.

  • @vksharma7956
    @vksharma7956 4 роки тому +25

    From these foresighted talks, strategically, India appears to be on weak wicket which means China aided by Pakistan on Kashmir border is in advantageous position if not dominating. Wait and watch position!

    • @janakiramanv4604
      @janakiramanv4604 4 роки тому +2

      This is the direct result of genuflecting to the Chinese, and saying "India does not need a strong army; it needs only a strong police force", The Himalayas in the north is our protection"; "Panch sheel will take care of China"; "We should not accept the UNSC seat offered to us, so as not to offend Peoples Republic of China- they should be given that seat", People who were singing, or descendants of those singing "Long Live our gracious King" are today pontificating and behaving like SALYA in Mahabharatha; and carry on arm chair criticism, while helping the nations openly inimical to India, and suggesting that such genuflection should continue. WHAT IS THE QUID PRO QUO?

    • @santa4091
      @santa4091 4 роки тому +1

      @@janakiramanv4604 the supporters of wire reporting who opine here are mostly maobadis with an inherent dislike for Modi. Your comments cannot be repulsed bcoz the sin was already created by the communist supporting Nehru. But fact of the matter is that in is sitting on high grounds and except 3-9 nations most have seen through China's bluff.

  • @tigerjhouston7880
    @tigerjhouston7880 4 роки тому

    Using and encouraging Tibetans to fight with China, encouraging Tibetan independence, messing with Taiwan will invite Chinese to do the same to India.

  • @vinoddora6710
    @vinoddora6710 4 роки тому

    Would have appreciated if Mr Saran were asked what were his contributions in this specific case as foreign secretary during his active service rather than he commenting on today's current situation. Firmly believe that today's situation is a sum of collective failures of all previous office bearers.

  • @theclairvoyant5375
    @theclairvoyant5375 4 роки тому +22

    We believe Modi is a liar and we also believe his lies. We live in a parallel universe where China has not occupied any Indian territory.

    • @ON-tk7bp
      @ON-tk7bp 4 роки тому

      Modi silence does not help but there is a reason behind this.

  • @yougurutu
    @yougurutu 4 роки тому

    You have not factored Modi! Today China& India are at same Page Militarily

  • @askhan403
    @askhan403 4 роки тому

    Good work keep going #TheWire

  • @walimohammad7525
    @walimohammad7525 4 роки тому +2

    Why we are discussing this and against PM's statement wherein he told that no one entered in our territory or no one took our post. First PM has to give a statement in true position so that the discussion took in order or as per the situation on China-India Boarder.
    Till today no clear cut stand has been put forward by Govt on China n India boarders including Nepal etc too.
    Sometime we have to think that PM n President of China has a something in their mind to give surprised in due time as both PM n President took tea on river while SWING in a very remembered movements indicating a solid friendship. Even PM had been in China 18 to 19 times as a PM n CM too.

  • @FreudSG
    @FreudSG 4 роки тому +1

    "If this continues in Winter" ...9:45 Boss if Siachen can be a battle ground year round , China a rich nation, can certainly keep Golwan active in Winter , not a problem. Just wait and see if they leave for it being too cold, just a couple of months to go.

  • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
    @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 4 роки тому +7

    Mind Begs the Question:
    If a PM/Head of State,
    Accepts political funding from Foreigners,
    Sells Nations Companies,Resources,
    Scope for Selling Nations Territory?

  • @shivenkhajuria2488
    @shivenkhajuria2488 4 роки тому

    When Shayam Saran was in office, China was holy cow? Support India right now rather create panic like situation. I would say he should share his experience with Indian govt or give them feedback directly.

  • @sudipchattopadhyay2855
    @sudipchattopadhyay2855 3 роки тому

    China don't want to India to compete with them in international markets.

  • @sanujitroy6830
    @sanujitroy6830 4 роки тому

    What steps would be taken?

  • @tariqzaidi4199
    @tariqzaidi4199 4 роки тому

    Revert back, and abolish articles 370....end of the story....or India shld go to SECURITY COUNSEL TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE......WHICH INDIA CANNOT DO....

  • @pspsdan
    @pspsdan 4 роки тому

    What thinkers in India are not realizing that China-Pakistan alliance has already been made and each of the steps that either of the country is taking is completely synchronized. Pakistani army is already being invited into high level meetings/intelligence briefing of central military commission.

  • @sunilsingh-vx1vs
    @sunilsingh-vx1vs 4 роки тому +1

    TIME TO HAVE A NEW INTERVIEW ON THIS TOPIC. DARE U...... TO DO IT.

  • @diwakarsingh8629
    @diwakarsingh8629 4 роки тому

    When during 2004 to2014 six times CCP walked into Indian side no action nor any news....just last corner of paper... something like unwanted..there was no any talk FM media like now...

  • @sarojkaushik6225
    @sarojkaushik6225 4 роки тому +2

    In nepal has taken 3 parts of india. We don't have time to talk to nepal for his mischievous activities

  • @abutanivlog668
    @abutanivlog668 4 роки тому +3

    Why we can't have bilateral trade?
    Why we should worry about modi's
    Image???
    As Indian I want say that India should be always in neutral position.
    Must not side with u.s or china.

    • @ResponsibleCitizen001
      @ResponsibleCitizen001 4 роки тому

      You just cannot always glide along this path. Because of this you see China's aggression ad they knew India will keep business as usual.