Thanks, Kaitlyn, for reminding Dave to take credit where it is due for his journalism. Thank goodness for Dave's work on this. Now... bring on the documentary! Getting this story out there seems the only way to protect future victims.
Dave and Kaitlyn have such podcast chemistry. I would love to see Dave come back as a guest (perhaps part 3, and maybe 4 since the court date is still 2.5 months away) and an after the trial episode. Maybe even have Clayton for that one too come in. But still, thank you Kaitlyn for bringing him on and allowing a larger audience to get introduced to this madness.
Dave Neal tells this jaw-dropping story with the perfect combination of integrity and humor. Thank you for having Dave on to share this significant story!
Please bring Dave back for a part 3, 4, however many are needed. So much has happened already since March 1. Thank you again for sharing this tragedy of justice.
Dave is such a great storyteller. I love that Kaitlyn gave him a chance to share everything. I hope in the end the good guys win and Laura pays for all the mess that she created.
Always love your podcast and how real you are. This was a bit of a departure from the usual but wow, what a shocking story. Kudos to you for having Dave Neal on and for giving this bizarre story and platform. Again, shocking. I feel so bad for Clayton and all her previous victims. Jane Doe needs help or better yet… jail.
If anyone has a young man in their life that they care about (son, brother, nephew, neighbor, etc)pray that they do not cross paths with a woman like Ms. Jane. She literally tries to ruin the lives AND livelihood of any man that rejects her. She does it without hesitation and has been amazingly successful at it so far. I cannot begin to imagine how she has been enabled to sue Clayton for paternity and a "motion to communicate " 🙄 as well as Greg and who knows how many others, without literally any proof of a medically verified pregnancy. The law needs to change to stop serial abusers like her that weaponize the justice system meant to help actual victims.
Wish I could like this 100 times. As a mother of a successful young man around her age, I warned him and pray he never gets involved with someone like this. Everything you said is 1000 percent the truth without exaggeration
Part 2 is amazing! Kaitlin, I felt it in my gut every time you said “ I’m scared!” Janeth Doeth is a very scary individual and she needs to be stopped! GO DAVE!!
Kaitlyn, you and Dave are so awesome covering this together. Thank you so much for being the ONLY strong woman, bachelor nation star to have the courage to cover this!
Um or man really that directly in BN! Reality Steve and Dave cover it, but even the one time NV had Clayton on his pod, it wasn't exactly the whole truth or super welcoming. And he made fun of him before and after that. I used to like NV show years ago. It was entertaining and at times he had really good takes on dating and human relationships in general. It seems that with the more success he has, the less humble he is (if you could really ever call him that is hard to say, but it's getting worse for sure)!
You ROCK Kaitlyn for covering this and giving Dave Neal a platform for the truth. As a woman it is critical this story is told to bring justice and to bring healing to those who have experienced true loss of a child.
Great podcast! Thank you for giving Dave Neal this deserved global platform… and thank you Dave Neal for your clarity, integrity and moral compass. It is such a shocking and sad story, and the deceptive pattern needs to stop.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I hope bachelor nation finally does get behind Clayton, and support him. Thank you for sharing the truth. Great journalism!!!
Great part 2, but by now people needs a part 3 because so much has happened since😎 Thanks Kaitlyn for having Dave. More people needs to know about this case.
I need Dave to be the one to narrate the documentary, he really knows how to put on a good show 😂 while being serious and very direct. Thanks for this two part episode Kaitlyn, hopefully we get to see part 3 with Dave after the June 10th court hearing. So fascinating to listen too and watch.
I suggested that on his Patreon but he said he couldn't because of the bias he has/ he'd be accused of. Which does make sense, I just hadn't thought of that.
@@KaitAC what a shame. It's such a horrific story for anyone to live through. All men should know about this woman so she can be avoided like the plague. Her parents are also enablers.
Thank you Kaitlyn and Dave! This woman needs to be exposed and this needs to stop. How on she has gotten by doing this for over 10 years is beyond me. She is a criminal playing a victim, costing innocent people hundreds of thousands dollars and unbelievable mental anguish. Plus this is so unfair to any woman who has had a stillbirth or miscarriage. My God LO your gig is up now go tend to your horses and add some value to your life and this world.
Thank you, Kaitlyn and Off The Vine podcast to give the space and platform for this story! Justice will hopefully be served and Clayton's name and reputation cleared!
If she went to the doctor a few days before the hearing and confirmed 24 weeks pregnant, there'd be an ultrasound, two heartbeats, etc. no evidence of prior miscarriage, and if she miscarried, there would be records of the D&C she had to remove the tissue, etc. It wouldn't just be expelled without her knowledge naturally at that point, she'd have either a delivery of the babies or a medical procedure to remove them. There's zero way for her to get out of this one now at this point. She was never pregnant unless she can provide records of two dead fetuses being removed from her body. It truly is sick that any woman would do this just because some dude didn't want to date her. She needs to be stopped and fully prosecuted.
so glad this story is reaching a larger audience! dave's done such incredible work standing up for truth and justice, and keeping us all informed along the way. thank you, kaitlyn for using your platform to get this important story out there, and to showcase this incredible man and all of his hard work. :)
thanks for your courage, Kaitlyn. This story is so frightening from so many aspects including how people can abuse the legal system to torment others and cause psychological and financial damage
Thanks Kaitlyn! For giving Dave Neal the platform to tell the real stories and being so open to hearing him. Unfortunately, I've known people like this "Jane Doe " and hope I never do again. She isn't the only one doing this ( blackmailing men and abusing the legal system) . Props to both of you for being brave enough to expose this lady ✌🏻🌹
Dave out here doing the WORK! Thank you so much, Kaitlyn for listening, supporting, and offering your perspective to this story. So important to keep things public when they involve such manipulation. I hope you (Kaitlyn) continue following and sharing the story because wild things have happened since this interview! We don't want anyone else to have to go through this nightmare with her (Jane Doe) ever again. 💕
@DaveNeal @KaitlymBristowe Oh man! Time for part 3! DN I'm so glad that you added that last part about still Corey standing up in court mansplaining to the female judge (with his hands in his pockets) that there are mom's that don't know when they are pregnant until babies are born, or if that "it's possible that she miscarried F'ing TWINS that were dead in her body for TWO MONTHS without her being dead! And they have expert witnesses that will stand in court to say that". This whole story... Is abhorrent! After years of infertility, I did IVF and got pregnant. But 14 weeks later, she died! 💔 JD doing this disgusting nonsense is like a kick in the face!! Btw, we forgot to mention how NV decided to delete DN's name out of the interview that he did with Clayton!! Eww
I agree wholeheartedly💯 and I am sorry for your loss.💕🕯 As someone who has also been through the pain of an actual miscarriage, the fact that JD/LO goes so low as to lie about it enrages me on an emotional/soul level. Thanks for also mentioning the NV deletion of Dave's actual name.🤬 If anything, this case seems to highlight those who hold the light and those who steep in darkness.✨️ Very grateful for Dave's fight for the truth and for others to continue to speak their truths (why other podcasters can't see they have a vested interest in this issue is beyond me). ✨️ So grateful to Kaitlyn for being an integral part of the light brigade. Class acts all around 💯☮️❤️🕯⚖️
If they call her that I would not have such an issue, although her name should be out there as a serial abuser of men to warn others. You know, like they do to male abusers. Why should she be protected from public scrutiny?
And, the more she can claim in court that people are harassing her online or threatening her, she just finds ways around this stuff being publicized. Plus, I don't think that DN wants anything terrible to happen to this woman. I'm sure he's mad and disgusted just like we are about this. Hell, I'm sure it's more than that as it directly impacted his name and his life... But, if she goes to any court, police station, FBI, or anything like that and gets the right random person to believe her so she gets out of this (bc people are bullying her or threatening her) then the whole thing disappears all over again. She's clearly got some mental health issues. Someone without that would never be able to live with themselves for doing all of this. Correct me if I'm wrong @DaveNeal but I think everyone just wants actual justice to be served the legal way without all this extra outside noise of harassment or worse. If it doesn't happen the fair, legal way... It'll never be over!
the audacity of JD for saying she miscarried twins after the first trimester without having a D&C is unbelieveable. She would have become septic in all likelihood
She said she went to the doctor in November and they said she must have miscarried 1-2 months ago. So likely the doctor could find no evidence of a pregnancy, and said well, if you did miscarry it was a couple months ago, because everything is back to normal down there. So in other words, she is claiming the fetuses exited her body at around the 4-5 month mark and she didn’t notice 🙄
I can’t imagine the mental anguish of being metaphorically handcuffed to someone via the law😫 not being able to truly put someone behind you due to the court system dragging out a case that was wrongly brought upon them. This case sure makes me thankful for some people in my past that I thought were “bad” or “manipulative”… but I guess I didn’t know the definition of those words until I had the perspective of this case right here! I truly am rooting for not only justice for Clayton, but everyone else that has been victimized and forced to stay in someone’s life via the court system. I’m also rooting for Jane to get help to prevent the type of thinking that causes these actions, just putting a stop to these actions are the first step, but receiving help to open her eyes of how this is wrong & to teach her to not use the court system as a weapon would be a win as well. She really would be a perfect candidate for Dr Phil because he emphasizes on *insight* and provides recourses for the long term, like physiological therapy.
The view count on part 1 is impressive, and hopefully other creators will have Dave on as well. I hope spreading the word, regardless of how late it is in this saga, helps save potential victims of this fraud from the same fate. Laura Owen’s is still out there, on dating apps. lurking and searching for the next one.
Great job getting this story out to the public, Dave! We are grateful for your hard work. I’m wondering what will happen now that Cory (the last lawyer) quit last week. Im nervous the more desperate she gets. Thank you, Kaitlyn for having Dave on!
So glad to finally see @daveneal on a platform to spread the word. This isn’t just about the Bachelor world. It is about what is right and just and stopping someone from using women, fertility and pregnancy loss as a weapon against others. Please follow, share and like. It’s free and it helps get the word out.
I couldn't agree more.💯💯💯 There are so many issues subsumed in all of this. Additionally, it has boggled my mind that other podcasters did not rally around Dave because he is also standing up for their right to speak out publicly with the truth. I live in a Middle Eastern country where speech is restricted. I'm baffled that other podcasters can't see at least their own interest in this, let alone all the other interests that Dave has been standing for. Thank you Kaitlyn for providing your platform. It needs all the light✨️...and all the love💕...and all the support.☮️❤️⚖️🕯
I love the passion behind Dave’s quest for the truth and his ability to use his comedy chops to make journalistic reporting interesting! The truth matters and it’s time for JD to face the consequences of her own actions.
Kaitlyn 👏🏽Bravo for facilitating your platform for the truth to be heard! Dave Neal just a podcaster helped tremendously on this and definitely deserves credit for all his work & this insane story needs this level of exposure. Too bad NV ego was just as big and couldn’t even mention Daves name in interview with Clayton. Again ❤ to Kaitlyn ! Jane Doeth Truly hope you get help.
Could not wait to watch this morning. Great job getting all the details out there, Dave! HUGE THANKS to our goddess Kaitlyn for having Dave on to discuss the way only he can. I have to admit that I laughed so hard at the punitive father registry analogy. I love that Dave is able to use a bit of comedy to break up the heaviness of this story. If we don't laugh, we'll all cry!
Kaitlyn, Thanks for having (some podcaster) Dave on. Been following this story via Dave from the jump. Glad to see it getting the coverage it deserves. Love you, love your content. ❤️
I followed Dave over here and this was great! Would love to see Kaitlyn’s reaction to the news that Jane Doe’s newest lawyer, Corey Keith, dumped her 👀
Thank you again KB for giving this a platform and Dave for doing the work! Hearing this all over again just makes me more upset for all these victims. How can she be comfortable inflicting so much harm on others? I’ve had to teach my early teen boys to look out for this predatory behavior later in life. Can’t believe Bach nation became such a teaching moment.
Dave did a great job covering EVERYTHING he's dealt with! I've been watching most of his videos about this case, but I still learned new information. Kaitlyn, you did a great job with really listening!
I’ve been following this story, but it was so interesting to hear it all summarized into two podcasts. Even more wild to hear it all told with the details back to back like this! 🤯
Plenty had happened since this was recorded. We need weekly live updates so we can see Kaitlyn’s reactions! Thank you both for covering this story for all those who were involved.
Thank you again Kaitlyn for sharing this story with your platform. Dave has worked tirelessly on this story and has been so helpful to Clayton & Greg!! We all appreciate this so much!!
Kaitlyn, thank you for letting Dave tell this story! The more people that hear about it, the harder it will be for her to find her next victim! She is still out there looking 👀
You both are great together and should collaborate again. I grew up listening to JD’s father on the radio. JD’s. mother was also a respected journalist. JD’s sister lives on the East Coast and has disabled all her social media accounts. The public is paying attention. I am not a fan of The Batchelor but found the videos here on UA-cam. As a woman who suffered a miscarriage, you find out. I was 6 weeks, went to an appointment and no heartbeat. It was devastating and had to go to the hospital for a D&C. JD claims her age, medical condition and having twins made her high risk. She would have had multiple appointments. Rubbing the pregnant belly then claims she lost the pregnancy is a lie. Justice needs to be served to this horrible human named Laura Owens.
Thank you for uploading this to UA-cam so early! I love watching certain podcasts to get the full emotion of it all. Great job you two!! Everyone needs to be warned about Jane Doe . What a sick individual.
There are so many small details that I’m sure were left out for time purposes, it this was a great overall picture of what happened. I’m glad the story is getting more press. Thank you for having Dave on to share!
JD needs to be studied. I’d love a full breakdown and analysis of this type of behavior. The fact that she’s taken it this far with no end in sight. It’s wild and fascinating.
And a lot of people believe she has mental health issues but literally in public she behaves like a normal person it’s when she’s at home behind a keyboard on her laptop is when she gets up to her arts and crafts We have seen no real emotion from her at all other than in the form of words through threats. In public, zero emotions.
Thanks, Kaitlyn, for reminding Dave to take credit where it is due for his journalism. Thank goodness for Dave's work on this. Now... bring on the documentary! Getting this story out there seems the only way to protect future victims.
Dave is so humble. I also appreciate that Kaitlyn reminding him to take credit.
I really appreciated how Kaitlyn was an active listener and just let Dave tell the story.
She really deserves so many accolades. 💯💯💯
She did do great, and well done to Dave
Dave and Kaitlyn have such podcast chemistry. I would love to see Dave come back as a guest (perhaps part 3, and maybe 4 since the court date is still 2.5 months away) and an after the trial episode. Maybe even have Clayton for that one too come in.
But still, thank you Kaitlyn for bringing him on and allowing a larger audience to get introduced to this madness.
Yaaaasss I agree!
ill be waiting by the phone! maybe next time I can wear a matching jumpsuit
@@DaveNealComedian the denim duo!
Totally agree!!!!
the best Bach recap duo 🤩
Definitely gonna need a part 3 and maybe even 4!
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Thanks for shining more light on this KB.
Dave Neal tells this jaw-dropping story with the perfect combination of integrity and humor. Thank you for having Dave on to share this significant story!
Please bring Dave back for a part 3, 4, however many are needed. So much has happened already since March 1. Thank you again for sharing this tragedy of justice.
Dave is such a great storyteller. I love that Kaitlyn gave him a chance to share everything. I hope in the end the good guys win and Laura pays for all the mess that she created.
Always love your podcast and how real you are. This was a bit of a departure from the usual but wow, what a shocking story. Kudos to you for having Dave Neal on and for giving this bizarre story and platform. Again, shocking. I feel so bad for Clayton and all her previous victims. Jane Doe needs help or better yet… jail.
Agreed, she is very respectful. They do have really good chemistry on the pod.
If anyone has a young man in their life that they care about (son, brother, nephew, neighbor, etc)pray that they do not cross paths with a woman like Ms. Jane. She literally tries to ruin the lives AND livelihood of any man that rejects her. She does it without hesitation and has been amazingly successful at it so far. I cannot begin to imagine how she has been enabled to sue Clayton for paternity and a "motion to communicate " 🙄 as well as Greg and who knows how many others, without literally any proof of a medically verified pregnancy.
The law needs to change to stop serial abusers like her that weaponize the justice system meant to help actual victims.
Wish I could like this 100 times. As a mother of a successful young man around her age, I warned him and pray he never gets involved with someone like this. Everything you said is 1000 percent the truth without exaggeration
Part 2 is amazing! Kaitlin, I felt it in my gut every time you said “ I’m scared!” Janeth Doeth is a very scary individual and she needs to be stopped! GO DAVE!!
She’s a dangerous person. And her behavior has only been escalating in severity as she’s found more victims
To clarify - when Dave says to "stay at Clayton's home", he's referring to his Airbnb (I don't want JD getting any ideas 😂)
Kaitlyn, you and Dave are so awesome covering this together. Thank you so much for being the ONLY strong woman, bachelor nation star to have the courage to cover this!
Um or man really that directly in BN! Reality Steve and Dave cover it, but even the one time NV had Clayton on his pod, it wasn't exactly the whole truth or super welcoming. And he made fun of him before and after that. I used to like NV show years ago. It was entertaining and at times he had really good takes on dating and human relationships in general. It seems that with the more success he has, the less humble he is (if you could really ever call him that is hard to say, but it's getting worse for sure)!
You ROCK Kaitlyn for covering this and giving Dave Neal a platform for the truth. As a woman it is critical this story is told to bring justice and to bring healing to those who have experienced true loss of a child.
Great podcast! Thank you for giving Dave Neal this deserved global platform… and thank you Dave Neal for your clarity, integrity and moral compass. It is such a shocking and sad story, and the deceptive pattern needs to stop.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I hope bachelor nation finally does get behind Clayton, and support him. Thank you for sharing the truth. Great journalism!!!
Great part 2, but by now people needs a part 3 because so much has happened since😎 Thanks Kaitlyn for having Dave. More people needs to know about this case.
I need Dave to be the one to narrate the documentary, he really knows how to put on a good show 😂 while being serious and very direct.
Thanks for this two part episode Kaitlyn, hopefully we get to see part 3 with Dave after the June 10th court hearing. So fascinating to listen too and watch.
I suggested that on his Patreon but he said he couldn't because of the bias he has/ he'd be accused of. Which does make sense, I just hadn't thought of that.
@@KaitAC what a shame. It's such a horrific story for anyone to live through. All men should know about this woman so she can be avoided like the plague. Her parents are also enablers.
Thank you Kaitlyn and Dave! This woman needs to be exposed and this needs to stop. How on she has gotten by doing this for over 10 years is beyond me. She is a criminal playing a victim, costing innocent people hundreds of thousands dollars and unbelievable mental anguish. Plus this is so unfair to any woman who has had a stillbirth or miscarriage. My God LO your gig is up now go tend to your horses and add some value to your life and this world.
Thank you, Kaitlyn and Off The Vine podcast to give the space and platform for this story! Justice will hopefully be served and Clayton's name and reputation cleared!
If she went to the doctor a few days before the hearing and confirmed 24 weeks pregnant, there'd be an ultrasound, two heartbeats, etc. no evidence of prior miscarriage, and if she miscarried, there would be records of the D&C she had to remove the tissue, etc. It wouldn't just be expelled without her knowledge naturally at that point, she'd have either a delivery of the babies or a medical procedure to remove them. There's zero way for her to get out of this one now at this point. She was never pregnant unless she can provide records of two dead fetuses being removed from her body. It truly is sick that any woman would do this just because some dude didn't want to date her. She needs to be stopped and fully prosecuted.
Thank you Kaitlyn! Please have Dave back to do an update in a few weeks!!!
so glad this story is reaching a larger audience! dave's done such incredible work standing up for truth and justice, and keeping us all informed along the way. thank you, kaitlyn for using your platform to get this important story out there, and to showcase this incredible man and all of his hard work. :)
thanks for your courage, Kaitlyn. This story is so frightening from so many aspects including how people can abuse the legal system to torment others and cause psychological and financial damage
Thanks Kaitlyn!
For giving Dave Neal the platform to tell the real stories and being so open to hearing him.
Unfortunately, I've known people like this "Jane Doe " and hope I never do again.
She isn't the only one doing this ( blackmailing men and abusing the legal system) .
Props to both of you for being brave enough to expose this lady ✌🏻🌹
Thanks Kaitlyn for sharing Dave’s coverage on this story. You are a queen!
Part 2 👏 Maybe there should be a part 3!!!
Definitely!
Thank you Kaitlyn so much for having Dave on he has shown such bravery and heart by covering this from the jump ❤
Dave out here doing the WORK! Thank you so much, Kaitlyn for listening, supporting, and offering your perspective to this story. So important to keep things public when they involve such manipulation. I hope you (Kaitlyn) continue following and sharing the story because wild things have happened since this interview! We don't want anyone else to have to go through this nightmare with her (Jane Doe) ever again. 💕
@DaveNeal @KaitlymBristowe Oh man! Time for part 3!
DN I'm so glad that you added that last part about still Corey standing up in court mansplaining to the female judge (with his hands in his pockets) that there are mom's that don't know when they are pregnant until babies are born, or if that "it's possible that she miscarried F'ing TWINS that were dead in her body for TWO MONTHS without her being dead! And they have expert witnesses that will stand in court to say that". This whole story... Is abhorrent! After years of infertility, I did IVF and got pregnant. But 14 weeks later, she died! 💔 JD doing this disgusting nonsense is like a kick in the face!!
Btw, we forgot to mention how NV decided to delete DN's name out of the interview that he did with Clayton!! Eww
I'm so sorry for your loss
@@julest5767 thank you!
I agree wholeheartedly💯 and I am sorry for your loss.💕🕯 As someone who has also been through the pain of an actual miscarriage, the fact that JD/LO goes so low as to lie about it enrages me on an emotional/soul level. Thanks for also mentioning the NV deletion of Dave's actual name.🤬 If anything, this case seems to highlight those who hold the light and those who steep in darkness.✨️ Very grateful for Dave's fight for the truth and for others to continue to speak their truths (why other podcasters can't see they have a vested interest in this issue is beyond me). ✨️ So grateful to Kaitlyn for being an integral part of the light brigade. Class acts all around 💯☮️❤️🕯⚖️
Jane Doe...
Calling the abuser, unknown female victim.
HER NAME IS LAURA OWENS.
I really like that in some videos they call her Voldemort
If they call her that I would not have such an issue, although her name should be out there as a serial abuser of men to warn others. You know, like they do to male abusers. Why should she be protected from public scrutiny?
@hazelhadley-britt6396 It's not about protecting Laura, Dave isn't saying her name as an added level of protection for himself.
Dave and Kaitlyn don’t want to say her name because of the threat of lawsuits. I think RS is the only one who says it
And, the more she can claim in court that people are harassing her online or threatening her, she just finds ways around this stuff being publicized. Plus, I don't think that DN wants anything terrible to happen to this woman. I'm sure he's mad and disgusted just like we are about this. Hell, I'm sure it's more than that as it directly impacted his name and his life... But, if she goes to any court, police station, FBI, or anything like that and gets the right random person to believe her so she gets out of this (bc people are bullying her or threatening her) then the whole thing disappears all over again. She's clearly got some mental health issues. Someone without that would never be able to live with themselves for doing all of this. Correct me if I'm wrong @DaveNeal but I think everyone just wants actual justice to be served the legal way without all this extra outside noise of harassment or worse. If it doesn't happen the fair, legal way... It'll never be over!
the audacity of JD for saying she miscarried twins after the first trimester without having a D&C is unbelieveable. She would have become septic in all likelihood
She said she went to the doctor in November and they said she must have miscarried 1-2 months ago. So likely the doctor could find no evidence of a pregnancy, and said well, if you did miscarry it was a couple months ago, because everything is back to normal down there. So in other words, she is claiming the fetuses exited her body at around the 4-5 month mark and she didn’t notice 🙄
@@saraha5070 exactly!
It smacks in the face for those of us who have actually been through such painful things. It's "sensitive and heartless" at the very least. 🤕🤮😥🤬
I can’t imagine the mental anguish of being metaphorically handcuffed to someone via the law😫 not being able to truly put someone behind you due to the court system dragging out a case that was wrongly brought upon them. This case sure makes me thankful for some people in my past that I thought were “bad” or “manipulative”… but I guess I didn’t know the definition of those words until I had the perspective of this case right here! I truly am rooting for not only justice for Clayton, but everyone else that has been victimized and forced to stay in someone’s life via the court system. I’m also rooting for Jane to get help to prevent the type of thinking that causes these actions, just putting a stop to these actions are the first step, but receiving help to open her eyes of how this is wrong & to teach her to not use the court system as a weapon would be a win as well. She really would be a perfect candidate for Dr Phil because he emphasizes on *insight* and provides recourses for the long term, like physiological therapy.
The view count on part 1 is impressive, and hopefully other creators will have Dave on as well. I hope spreading the word, regardless of how late it is in this saga, helps save potential victims of this fraud from the same fate. Laura Owen’s is still out there, on dating apps. lurking and searching for the next one.
Love that you gave Dave Neal support on your platform to showcase all his hardwork! Love both your podcasts ❤
Great job getting this story out to the public, Dave! We are grateful for your hard work. I’m wondering what will happen now that Cory (the last lawyer) quit last week. Im nervous the more desperate she gets. Thank you, Kaitlyn for having Dave on!
I could watch Dave tell Kaitlyn a story all day. Such an entertaining storyteller and story listener combination 😂🩷
Exactly my thoughts! ❤
So glad to finally see @daveneal on a platform to spread the word.
This isn’t just about the Bachelor world.
It is about what is right and just and stopping someone from using women, fertility and pregnancy loss as a weapon against others.
Please follow, share and like. It’s free and it helps get the word out.
I couldn't agree more.💯💯💯 There are so many issues subsumed in all of this. Additionally, it has boggled my mind that other podcasters did not rally around Dave because he is also standing up for their right to speak out publicly with the truth. I live in a Middle Eastern country where speech is restricted. I'm baffled that other podcasters can't see at least their own interest in this, let alone all the other interests that Dave has been standing for. Thank you Kaitlyn for providing your platform. It needs all the light✨️...and all the love💕...and all the support.☮️❤️⚖️🕯
So glad this story is getting the recognition it deserves!!! Dave has been incredible reporting on this story!!
Kaitlyn you look amazing. Thank you for having Dave on. We love you both!
I love the passion behind Dave’s quest for the truth and his ability to use his comedy chops to make journalistic reporting interesting! The truth matters and it’s time for JD to face the consequences of her own actions.
Awesome video. Glad y'all were able to record this conversation.
Kaitlyn 👏🏽Bravo for facilitating your platform for the truth to be heard! Dave Neal just a podcaster helped tremendously on this and definitely deserves credit for all his work & this insane story needs this level of exposure.
Too bad NV ego was just as big and couldn’t even mention Daves name in interview with Clayton.
Again ❤ to Kaitlyn !
Jane Doeth Truly hope you get help.
Thank you for having Dave Neal aka “some podcaster” on your show!
Here to say thank you for great journalism Dave and ty KB for having him on to bring light to such a ridiculous yet tragic case
I guess I'm not going to bed now!!
Ditto!
Oh! It’s up! Now I have to stay awake & listen!!
me too! I have to be up at 7am! no sleep for me tonight lol
KB + Dave, we love you! Thank you for both being courageous and using your platforms for exposing the truth!
Justice for Clayton! Thanks for having Dave on and spreading the word about Jane Doe! ❤
Kaitlyn thank you so much for covering this!! ❤
Could not wait to watch this morning. Great job getting all the details out there, Dave! HUGE THANKS to our goddess Kaitlyn for having Dave on to discuss the way only he can. I have to admit that I laughed so hard at the punitive father registry analogy. I love that Dave is able to use a bit of comedy to break up the heaviness of this story. If we don't laugh, we'll all cry!
Thanks Kaitlyn, this story needs your audience
We want Part 3! We want Part 3! We want Part 3! Lol. Great job on these 2 episodes. Wow. Insane!
Part 3 hopefully after June 10th 🙏
Wow! Kaitlyn and Dave are quite the duo. I hope there is a part 3 next.
Thank you for devoting all this time to putting the facts out there in chronological order.
Thanks Dave and Kaitlyn for what I hope will be very informative to both audiences.
Kaitlyn, Thanks for having (some podcaster) Dave on. Been following this story via Dave from the jump. Glad to see it getting the coverage it deserves. Love you, love your content. ❤️
I followed Dave over here and this was great! Would love to see Kaitlyn’s reaction to the news that Jane Doe’s newest lawyer, Corey Keith, dumped her 👀
Wow amazing interview!! 🙌🏼 😇 Dave you are an angel!!
Excellent episode. Dave is so great retelling this story. Thanks Kaitlyn for giving Dave this platform to expose JDs antics to more people
Imagine feeling empathy for an abuser..... I do not feel sorry for her. She deserves prison time for what she has done.
I'd settle for prison time with some in-the-big-house psych treatment. It is all so wrong and absolutely criminal.
I am so glad to get the entire story. You are doing great Dave.
Thanks for letting Dave cover this on your pod. Laura Owens needs to be exposed!
This was such a great summary, Dave. Kaitlyn, thank you so much for elevating this story. It’s so important that justice is done for all the victims.
Story aside I love that this is 2 friends showing each other mutual respect.
Great podcast Kaitlyn and Dave, and thanks for keeping the heat turned up
Thank you again KB for giving this a platform and Dave for doing the work! Hearing this all over again just makes me more upset for all these victims. How can she be comfortable inflicting so much harm on others? I’ve had to teach my early teen boys to look out for this predatory behavior later in life. Can’t believe Bach nation became such a teaching moment.
Dave did a great job covering EVERYTHING he's dealt with! I've been watching most of his videos about this case, but I still learned new information. Kaitlyn, you did a great job with really listening!
I’ve been following this story, but it was so interesting to hear it all summarized into two podcasts. Even more wild to hear it all told with the details back to back like this! 🤯
Plenty had happened since this was recorded. We need weekly live updates so we can see Kaitlyn’s reactions!
Thank you both for covering this story for all those who were involved.
Watched this instead of sleeping! Couldn’t wait haha
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Dave and Kaitlyn talking about the important things
So much wonderful journalism and facts. Thanks Dave!
So glad she had Dave on this to share this crazy story!
Thank you again Kaitlyn for sharing this story with your platform. Dave has worked tirelessly on this story and has been so helpful to Clayton & Greg!! We all appreciate this so much!!
Part 3!!!! Great job, Dave, on the reporting and Kaitlyn and great questions and reactions!
Dave out here doing the Lord’s work!! Love the banter between you and KB. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for shining light on this, Kaitlin!!! You’re helping a lot! Keep up the great work ❣️🎉🎉🎉
Kaitlyn, thank you for letting Dave tell this story! The more people that hear about it, the harder it will be for her to find her next victim! She is still out there looking 👀
There has to be a part three!
You both are great together and should collaborate again. I grew up listening to JD’s father on the radio. JD’s. mother was also a respected journalist. JD’s sister lives on the East Coast and has disabled all her social media accounts. The public is paying attention. I am not a fan of The Batchelor but found the videos here on UA-cam. As a woman who suffered a miscarriage, you find out. I was 6 weeks, went to an appointment and no heartbeat. It was devastating and had to go to the hospital for a D&C. JD claims her age, medical condition and having twins made her high risk. She would have had multiple appointments. Rubbing the pregnant belly then claims she lost the pregnancy is a lie. Justice needs to be served to this horrible human named Laura Owens.
Thank you for uploading this to UA-cam so early! I love watching certain podcasts to get the full emotion of it all. Great job you two!! Everyone needs to be warned about Jane Doe . What a sick individual.
I am so glad i listened to the first part today cause it would have driven me crazy to wait for past 2😂😅..
There are so many small details that I’m sure were left out for time purposes, it this was a great overall picture of what happened. I’m glad the story is getting more press. Thank you for having Dave on to share!
Part 2 delivered!! ❤
Thanks again for this very excellent overview of this wild, wild story!
Thank you for doing the right thing Dave and Katelyn!
JD needs to be studied. I’d love a full breakdown and analysis of this type of behavior.
The fact that she’s taken it this far with no end in sight. It’s wild and fascinating.
And a lot of people believe she has mental health issues but literally in public she behaves like a normal person it’s when she’s at home behind a keyboard on her laptop is when she gets up to her arts and crafts
We have seen no real emotion from her at all other than in the form of words through threats. In public, zero emotions.
As Kaitlyn noted....she's terrifying. And she has some real issues. 🤕
Justice for Clayton!
And Dave!
Thank goodness I am at work working my 12hrs shift and going to listen now.
I'm a fan of Dave's and came over to this podcast to watch him and now I'm a fan of Kaitlyn too. I just subscribed
Thank you so much for shedding light on this story!!!!
Wow what a story! Thanks for part two ❤
Fantastic interview! Thanks Kaitlyn and Dave. Hoping for a part 3 in the future. 🤞🤞
Thanx for doing this pod. Also thanx to Dave for all hes done for Clayton.
So glad Dave was able to elevate this story and bring it to the masses. Laura Owens is a criminal
Thank you again Dave and Kaitlyn for getting the word out. Great interview
You guys riff off each other super well. This is a delight to watch
Great interview. Thank you Kaitlyn ❤
Wow Kaitlyn is awesome!!! Thanks for having Dave on your podcast! When Nick won't even mention his name!!! This story needs to be heard!!!
We already love both of you, but thank you Kaitlyn for have Dave on to talk about this!! Bring some high vibrations out of this mess!!
Such an interesting con. Dave Neal rocks!
We need a part 3 with the crazy updates from the deposition and part 4 after June 10!!