Before Thomann channel split into different instrument channels, all drum reviews had a decibel counter on show. This would have been a perfect use for it.
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That is a very expensive device and probably few people have it in order to make a comparison with normal cymbals so it might be useless to know how much decibels these produce.
Hi Guys, i'm using the millenium (Thomann house brand) stiil or low volume cymbals since they were on the marked. Due to a sudden deafness in my right ear i'm not allowed to expose myself to loud noises. So either i had to stop my drumming after 50 years or find a solution to keep the "noise" as low as possible. I've tried the Zildjians but sold them after being introduced to the Millenium's The still series of Thomann / Millenium are doing the job perfectly. I use meshheads on a accoustic drumset, a trigger set of Ddrum and a Roland TD4 drumsound module with a small amplification. The whole drumsound is leveled with the cymbals volume which gives me an awesome sound, drumfeel which i even use with my band. Even rehearsals are more pleasant and balanced than ever before. My fellow musicians are happy as well. The 14" hi-hat is perfect, the 16" crash is my least favorite, so i bought a second set for 120€ and only use the 18 and the 20" as crashes and the second 20" as a ride, i also bought me the Millenium still china which is also magnificent. The 2 x16" can be used as a large hi-hat or to create stack cymbals, but i put them aside, cause i"m happy with my set-up. So highly recvomendable. Musical regards Theo
surprisingly i liked the milleniums best... to my ears they had the least amount of annoying ultra high frequencies. and btw i can totally see myself using any of those hi-hats for hip-hop/trap style beats. that would sound awesome!
so the perforations reduce the mass and you hear less crash or splash so the relationship with your neighbors won't go in the trash thanks Thomann's Drum Bash.
But your neighbours will still talk brash, when you use the silent crash, unless you pay them cash. And even IF you pay them cash, your cymbals will get thrown into the trash in a flash, because your toddler has developed some diaper rash and is gonna splash all over your crash.
The Zildjian L80's are definitely the quietest low volume cymbals. I had a set when I was using an acoustic kit with mesh heads for practice for a while. But I didn't like the stick noise,or mesh heads come to that, very bouncy unrealistic feel. I went to an all electric kit for practice for a time, but recently have gone back to an acoustic kit with extremely dead plastic heads. Then I came across Centent whisper cymbals, I like them best! not as quiet as the L80's, so less obvious stick noise, but much sweeter sounding than the Millenium's, and incredibly cheap for a set comprising 14" hats, 16" & 18" crashes, and a 20" ride. Really nice set as low volume cymbals go!
Zildjian now also sells a 20" ride, which is fantastic, also a 10" splash and 18" china that I haven't played yet. While, there is some loud stick definition with the L80s, I found that certain sticks play quieter on the cymbals. Usually I use Vic Firth 5As but with L80s I've been using Vater Drumeo 5A's which you don't hear so much "stick". They are the best low volume cymbals in my opinion. Evans also now makes a set that sound pretty good.
I have a 10" splash for a while now, worth the money. My favorite Z80 cymbal so far. :) But I'm considering getting a 20" ride and repurpose 18" as a secondary crash. Thanks for your input, I'm adding this to my wishlist. Winter is coming. ;)
Heck yeah, the 20" ride is something else. Definitely a better ride than the 18". The bell on the 20' is way better! But yeah I use the 18" as a crash too. I take back what I said about the Vater sticks, I switched back to Vic Firth as they actually have less stick sound. I'm looking to get the 10" splash and 18" china when they come back in stock this holiday. Even thought of getting a half of the 13" hats and use it as a 13" splash too. I just love the L80s! @@rageagainstthebath
I really like the idea behind these as I"m also intrigued with converting an acoustic set and see the cymbals as a challenge. One question I have is how durable are these LV cymbals?
@@me3899 No, I got a weird set stuff to make up the other elements of the set. There's a Octo snare Cajon with a piece of yoga mat taped to the head. That works surprisingly well. And then a rain drum that I took the seeds out of and a tambourine with the jiggles taped up. Kind of a mess but works rather well supporting acoustic instruments.
Might be a weird question, hehe, but what is the microphone setup here (microphone models and positioning)? The best recording I’ve heard of Silentstroke heads
I have a Roland MDS-12V drum stand, witch is one of the TD-30 options - but I think they are all the same. I also have a set of Millennium quit cymbals, but I don´t think they fit very well on the Roland stand. The distance to fill out is quit large, and I would like to have some kind of a washer with a plastic bushing in the bottom to keep the cymbal from directly contacting the cymbal stand. I would be glad to get a suggestion how to fix this.
Wow!! Can only dream of that hihat sound on the set of Millenniums my son has. Truly awful. As someone said on a different review they sound like crashing shopping carts. He won’t play and I don’t blame him.
Hmm...not sure. Aaron Spears uses it in combination with a spiral crash to get some more special effect cymbal sound. They could sound nice in electronic music. I think i would recommend the Sabian ones if you want to use them life because the Zildjian might be a little too soft and i'm not a big fan of the sound of the Millenium ones.
I agree that Millenium tends to be crappy quality, but these cymbals sound pretty cool. They sound even better with a little bit of electrical tape under them to kill the overtones. Highly recommended!!!
@@alopezdrums Indeed , im quite happy with the Milleniums too , I Applied some clear coat paint on the bottom side of the cymbals to dampen the high frequencies .
Why , you don't compare All cymbals on the same set: Hihat for all brands Crash for all brands Ride for all brands? This is the correct "comparison" , per instrument!👎
Before Thomann channel split into different instrument channels, all drum reviews had a decibel counter on show.
This would have been a perfect use for it.
you probably dont care at all but does any of you know of a tool to log back into an Instagram account??
I somehow lost the login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me.
That is a very expensive device and probably few people have it in order to make a comparison with normal cymbals so it might be useless to know how much decibels these produce.
Hi Guys, i'm using the millenium (Thomann house brand) stiil or low volume cymbals since they were on the marked. Due to a sudden deafness in my right ear i'm not allowed to expose myself to loud noises. So either i had to stop my drumming after 50 years or find a solution to keep the "noise" as low as possible.
I've tried the Zildjians but sold them after being introduced to the Millenium's
The still series of Thomann / Millenium are doing the job perfectly.
I use meshheads on a accoustic drumset, a trigger set of Ddrum and a Roland TD4 drumsound module with a small amplification. The whole drumsound is leveled with the cymbals volume which gives me an awesome sound, drumfeel which i even use with my band. Even rehearsals are more pleasant and balanced than ever before. My fellow musicians are happy as well.
The 14" hi-hat is perfect, the 16" crash is my least favorite, so i bought a second set for 120€ and only use the 18 and the 20" as crashes and the second 20" as a ride, i also bought me the Millenium still china which is also magnificent. The 2 x16" can be used as a large hi-hat or to create stack cymbals, but i put them aside, cause i"m happy with my set-up.
So highly recvomendable.
Musical regards
Theo
surprisingly i liked the milleniums best... to my ears they had the least amount of annoying ultra high frequencies. and btw i can totally see myself using any of those hi-hats for hip-hop/trap style beats. that would sound awesome!
I use them at home and the crash and ride are okay tho the hi-hat sounds super clingy and annoying and has very high frequencies
so the perforations reduce the mass and you hear less crash or splash so the relationship with your neighbors won't go in the trash thanks Thomann's Drum Bash.
But your neighbours will still talk brash, when you use the silent crash, unless you pay them cash. And even IF you pay them cash, your cymbals will get thrown into the trash in a flash, because your toddler has developed some diaper rash and is gonna splash all over your crash.
The Zildjian L80's are definitely the quietest low volume cymbals. I had a set when I was using an acoustic kit with mesh heads for practice for a while. But I didn't like the stick noise,or mesh heads come to that, very bouncy unrealistic feel. I went to an all electric kit for practice for a time, but recently have gone back to an acoustic kit with extremely dead plastic heads. Then I came across Centent whisper cymbals, I like them best! not as quiet as the L80's, so less obvious stick noise, but much sweeter sounding than the Millenium's, and incredibly cheap for a set comprising 14" hats, 16" & 18" crashes, and a 20" ride. Really nice set as low volume cymbals go!
Hi Ian. Thanks for sharing. Never heard of the Centent whisper Cymbals but will check them out! //Simon
THANKS FOR THE COMPARISONS! i like the zildjians best & this really helped me pick them out!
Thanks a lot and Merry Christmas! Glad I could help.
Actually same here. I like zildjian set more and tend to go for it.
I really like the Zildjians. I play Cajon and I’m looking for cymbals that will pair well with it.
I love that you use gloves when you handle the cymbals. I do the same thing. I hate finger prints on them!
Zildjian now also sells a 20" ride, which is fantastic, also a 10" splash and 18" china that I haven't played yet. While, there is some loud stick definition with the L80s, I found that certain sticks play quieter on the cymbals. Usually I use Vic Firth 5As but with L80s I've been using Vater Drumeo 5A's which you don't hear so much "stick". They are the best low volume cymbals in my opinion. Evans also now makes a set that sound pretty good.
I have a 10" splash for a while now, worth the money. My favorite Z80 cymbal so far. :) But I'm considering getting a 20" ride and repurpose 18" as a secondary crash. Thanks for your input, I'm adding this to my wishlist. Winter is coming. ;)
Heck yeah, the 20" ride is something else. Definitely a better ride than the 18". The bell on the 20' is way better! But yeah I use the 18" as a crash too. I take back what I said about the Vater sticks, I switched back to Vic Firth as they actually have less stick sound. I'm looking to get the 10" splash and 18" china when they come back in stock this holiday. Even thought of getting a half of the 13" hats and use it as a 13" splash too. I just love the L80s! @@rageagainstthebath
I really like the idea behind these as I"m also intrigued with converting an acoustic set and see the cymbals as a challenge. One question I have is how durable are these LV cymbals?
Use rods.
I play mostly Heavy Metal and I still have them since December 2020
I got the Evans cymbals in a kit with the low vol heads.
The sabian ride sounds great.
I play my L80 with Vic Firth rubber tip 5B's. The stick attack come down a lot.
Good idea Sir William Karl! Happy New Years, Simon
I demoed the hats a long time ago and didn’t like the stick noise, would you say those sticks eliminate it?
@@me3899 Yes, It's why I went to them. However, it's different, but way more satisfying by my ear.
@@sirwilliamkarl5591 Do you use them with Silentstroke heads as well? Im wondering how they are affected by those sticks. Thanks.
@@me3899 No, I got a weird set stuff to make up the other elements of the set. There's a Octo snare Cajon with a piece of yoga mat taped to the head. That works surprisingly well. And then a rain drum that I took the seeds out of and a tambourine with the jiggles taped up. Kind of a mess but works rather well supporting acoustic instruments.
Might be a weird question, hehe, but what is the microphone setup here (microphone models and positioning)? The best recording I’ve heard of Silentstroke heads
We need Thomann to carry Agean cymbals, they have insane low volume cymbals.
Brilliant straight to the point review 👍
Thanks! //Simon
I honestly think that the low-volume hihat sounds better than my real $300 zidiljian hihats
I have a Roland MDS-12V drum stand, witch is one of the TD-30 options - but I think they are all the same. I also have a set of Millennium quit cymbals, but I don´t think they fit very well
on the Roland stand. The distance to fill out is quit large, and I would like to have some kind of a washer with a plastic bushing in the bottom to keep the cymbal from directly contacting
the cymbal stand. I would be glad to get a suggestion how to fix this.
Zildjian seems to be the best
I have the same issue with hi hats in my left ear: I really prefer darker hats for that reason.
Wow!!
Can only dream of that hihat sound on the set of Millenniums my son has. Truly awful. As someone said on a different review they sound like crashing shopping carts. He won’t play and I don’t blame him.
Are you using the Remo SilentStroke heads in this video?
You said what you liked and didnt lole about the Millennium amd Zildjian sets but not the Sabians. Just curious as to your opinion on the quiet tones
Your right. I do like the Hi-Hat stick and chick sound but i am not a big fan of the overtones of the crashs and ride cymbal.
wonder if it the drum heads are low-volume as well?
Agean R Series Low Volume Cymbals ?
Really cool! Very Insightful!
Thank you!
Would you recommend any of these over normal cymbals?
What do you mean exactly?
@@ThomannsDrumBash I mean to ask if you can get an authentic sound with the low volume cymbals?
Hmm...not sure. Aaron Spears uses it in combination with a spiral crash to get some more special effect cymbal sound. They could sound nice in electronic music. I think i would recommend the Sabian ones if you want to use them life because the Zildjian might be a little too soft and i'm not a big fan of the sound of the Millenium ones.
Thank you for the review
My pleasure! What should i review next? //Simon
Agean Low Noise Cymbals are also great.
I have Agean R Silent, it is to loud to play at home. I like Zildjian Gen 16
Yes, but VERY expensive.
Which low volume cymbals do you recommend?
Is it enough "silent" for play in appartment ?
Thank you
Agean sind die einzigen Low Volumes, die auch wie echte Becken klingen...nehmt sie doch in den Shop auf?
Die gibt es soweit ich weis, nur bei Drum-Tec.
Yes
@1:45 i kinda hear I-E-A-I-A-I-O in my Head :D
Too bad you didn't compared them side by side.
I like the PAISTE the best. 😜😜😜
Agean R Series 😍
They're awesome but loud. Sold my set
@@EduanSnarf they have newly created X-tra silent flat R series which is quiter.
why do you use gloves to change cymbals?
The volume is really down That you vive?
now evans release evans db one cymbals
Que parches estas usando .
Remo silentstroke
Need to hear the china's and splashes
damn daniel radcliffe sure can drum!!
A geh du guy from bavaria moch des doch amoi auf bayerisch bei dena ganzn andren sprochn speibst di do sakrisch
Millenium is really bad.
My first Kit was a MilleniumKit and i always wondered how it could hurt so much to play drums. Lol
I agree that Millenium tends to be crappy quality, but these cymbals sound pretty cool. They sound even better with a little bit of electrical tape under them to kill the overtones. Highly recommended!!!
@@alopezdrums sounds like a great idea, I wondered if half a moon gel might work too
For the price they are very good.
@@alopezdrums Indeed , im quite happy with the Milleniums too , I Applied some clear coat paint on the bottom side of the cymbals to dampen the high frequencies .
Why , you don't compare All cymbals on the same set:
Hihat for all brands
Crash for all brands
Ride for all brands?
This is the correct "comparison" , per instrument!👎
STOP SHOUTING
same goes for you champ. No need to yell.
Lol, you’re a “do as I say, not as I do” kind of person.