So gotta agree to that. I feel like Trump is playing more like a "I use up all my cards like an aggro deck for Jeeves value" more than a real aggro. deck. Like he doesn't try to fish for undertaker and stuff and goes more for value-ish combos like knife juggler+mirror image or play whatever + Jeeves.
I hate when people say "well played" when I clearly got bent over by card draw and lost in the first 5 turns (or they got some stupidly lucky card draw into combo finisher that was very unlikely). I get so pissed off. I usually auto-squelch so I don't have to deal with it.
Don't think of "well played" as meaning the opponent thinks it was a close game or anything. Just think of it as your opponent saying thank you for taking the time to play a game with me. That's usually what I mean when I tell people "well played".
After missing lethal: "The first rule of [aggro decks] is to check for lethal each turn." Next turn he has lethal and doesn't notice so much as stumble into killing his opponent
I agree with the removal of the undertaker. Me and a friend removed the deathrattle synergy from the original deck and added more mech synergy, which helped a lot, but I think I'm going to test this deck out a bit.
i really don't think you need jeeves and loot hoarder, maybe one jeeves but card draw isn't really necessary. If you play things like mech yeti and the 4/3 that summons a two drop, in addition to mad scientist mirror entity you have enough tempo to keep going.
It's painful that after missing an obvious and easy lethal against the Priest only a few turns later he has another pretty obvious lethal and he's too concerned with clearing the board. While he certainly wins often this is something that Hafu brought to light in a Hafu/Trump arena session in that Trump's quest for value and card advantage often blinds him to pretty clear winning situations either this turn or over the next two turns. Control suits Trump so well he's actually not as proficient in an aggressive face deck.
17:35 I honestly think hitting the Cleric, not the face, would have been a better play there. Gives a good chance of a tempo stomp for the other player and the only way that this deck wins is by out tempoing.
When will i be able to do a Naga deck? I mean, what was the name of the beefy ones from wc3? The ones with the giant anchors? I havent played WC3 for a while so i have forgotten the name of the beefy baesterds.
They're male Naga. Myrmidons and Royal Guard. None in Hearthstone, but Zar'jira's side (the naga banshee sea witch) from the demo/custom campaign could turn out like this: www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMcM7Mcr7MVG7MoH7MRc7MsL7Mbm7Mbk7MfI7Mwg7Mhz7Mxq7Mxt7Mty7MvT8R Lady Vashj's side while fighting with Illidan and Kael could look like this: www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMb7MMG7MMt7Mmc7MVm7zsp7MsY7MaD7MaY7MbQ7MbS7Md07Mfo7Mwj7Mwg7zwE8k
Nice, although i do hope they release some naga and myrms. All things considered slithereen or scaley is always welcome into my heartstone daily! (terrible attempt at writing something). Buuut thanks for reply yewskriim!
So, you turn an interresting mage deck (even if it wasn't optimised) into a classical deathrattle shit which we have been seeing since naxx came out ? :( I'm not a big fan of this extension, but I think there is a lot of fun and viable decks to play with.
That definitly wasn't Trump's best day. First he missed lethal twice, then he trades in knife juggler before calling minions. Maybe he really was too much focused on finding ways to play jeeves.
When playing agro you need to throw caution into the win and assume he doesn't have that one card. At least early on. Nobody keeps holy nova and consecrate is questionable.
I played a similar deck and there where many games in this video he could have won if he did not try and play control with an aggro deck. You do NOT keep Jeeves in your opening hand. It loses you tempo way too much. Aggro requires reliability. Meaning you need to have cards you can play at all times that develop threats. You never trade evenly with an aggro deck. You go face instead if you are fighting a control deck. With so much card draw already in the deck the odds are high you will draw into Jeeves later so you NEVER EVER keep it in your opening hand. The odds you get one of your two Jeeves is extremely high. Something like 80% when you will need it. I know because I played an extremely similar deck and I have an over 80% win rate with the Jeeves aggro Mage deck.
If you're a mage playing rush, you need to make sure you have enough draw, and you simply can't do that as a mage. So play the mid-game rush (like, old-old-old meta from Shaman), or play the super early game and hope for the best (like backspace).
Holy cow, the first half of this video was just painful to watch. Between missing lethal and taking ridiculously dumb risks, I don't even know man, Trump needs to relearn how to play aggro.
LOl what happened to trump in the game at 14:10? just killed his own brain? twice missed lethal (16:07 has 10 damage and ping, still almost killed himself with the mirrored knife juggler.. LOL and didnt even ping it after dropping a creature and hitting the juggler once..)
Interessting take on aggro mage. Really makes any low CMC deck play like the divine favor decks of yore. Doubt we'll ever see that again. I've been doing pretty well with a mech mage that has a bunch of spare parts and Antonidas P'fun
Yeah I'm seeing Mage as more of a mid range to late game class now. The flood of the aggro in the ladder needs a good mid range to slow them down, been doing some cool stuff with Mage as of late. And I don't know if its just me but warlock seems some how nerfed by the new cards or maybe it is just the nerfing of soulfire.
Best lose I ever had with agro mage was a priest dying next turn with 5 life.He made his 1/7 to 1/28 and then 28/28 and won!If only I had a damn 0/2 taunt ;p
There have many misplays against the Priest. You could already win without draw out knife juggler.. You should not draw out knife juggler first. When opponent's knife juggle hit you can fire blast it.
Control decks can get boring. I gave up playing control warrior because every game against priest went into fatigue. Very tiresome. Switched to a similar mage deck (with unstable portal, for good lols) and it was quite a fun change. Ofc I had to switch back to control once I got close to rank 10, but it was fun while it lasted. I recommend you give it a try.
Actually, main problem in these games is, that Trump doesn´t know how to build the deck in this new meta.. after few weeks/months, he´ll be again very good player. He just need to build new view on hearthstone and values of a lot cards, that have been changed.
i think you should try switching out all other cards that give you another card. let jeeves do his job. make these extra cards your buff and strength. just a thought
The amount of misplays and miscalculations in that game against the Priest... honestly, it feels like that wasn't Trump playing.
That's what happens when you play simply to get a gimmick to work XD
Higher Entertainment
Just do it.
He was trying out a new deck... I give him props for thinking outside the box.
Ever heard of not playing seriously and trying out new combos?
Jspath3 why play zoo when you can play a realy good deck ?
So painful trying to watch Trump play aggro..Stick to control, man. That's your strong suit.
Its kinda boring tho, sitting there just waiting for your legendaries to pop up :P
Jonathan Orinius
We're in the presence of a Hearhtstone master here. You've got it to the tee.
So gotta agree to that. I feel like Trump is playing more like a "I use up all my cards like an aggro deck for Jeeves value" more than a real aggro. deck. Like he doesn't try to fish for undertaker and stuff and goes more for value-ish combos like knife juggler+mirror image or play whatever + Jeeves.
Jonathan Orinius I actually find control decks more interesting than others.
Jonathan Orinius My only point is it's clear Trump is not an aggro player. I'd rather watch him play control is all.
I really liked the purple glow you put over Mirror Entity when Mad Scientist dies. It's a great, subtle touch :)
I hate when people say "well played" when I clearly got bent over by card draw and lost in the first 5 turns (or they got some stupidly lucky card draw into combo finisher that was very unlikely). I get so pissed off. I usually auto-squelch so I don't have to deal with it.
Yup. Hearthstone and it's rng bullshit. That's why I stopped playing, it's way too casual and luck based. I still enjoy watching it though.
Don't think of "well played" as meaning the opponent thinks it was a close game or anything. Just think of it as your opponent saying thank you for taking the time to play a game with me. That's usually what I mean when I tell people "well played".
It's like gg for any other game. It's usual to give it at the end of a game, regardless off the outcome. I don't think it should be taken for more.
It's really just wont. When you're done with the game, you say "Well Played." It shows gratitude and appreciation. c:
NikiliteGamer Why do that when I got my face smashed in by bad luck? I wish there was a "fuck off" emote.
*Screaming at screen at missed lethal....trumps admits it because...Jeeves.*
no, 1 missing mana
Mon jiji he actually missed lethal bro...!
There is no missed lethal, only hilarious BM.
Nikola Petrovic mrPAK215 i watched the turn before, my bad
Watch out, Jens
Jeeves has his sights set on becoming Trump's editor, too.
Everything's done by a robot nowadays... They work for less.
Machines are pure value... Which reminds me, NEED A DISPENSOR HERE!
Totalbiscuit already has a robot for his streams.
VictinisClaw Like so many others
that hunter kill at 25:55 was so satisfying. HUCK FUNTERS
Is here anyone who has ever faced a warrior without Fiery War axe in opening hand? I sure havn't.
When you didn't fireball that shade...... it felt worse than you missing lethal.
Turn on captions, go to 8:07, laugh for hours.
"Hours" seems like a bit of a stretch.
Oh...it's hours? For me it was "Horse Cock"
Luke
me too
Comandobunny Oh...lol, I completely missed that. I just figured the captions changed for them. And yes, I like to exaggerate.
When do we get the fel reaver aggro games where the twitch chat was crying the whole time :D
LOOOOOL!! His luck in those two matches against the warlock AmonDestroye.... hilarious
After missing lethal: "The first rule of [aggro decks] is to check for lethal each turn." Next turn he has lethal and doesn't notice so much as stumble into killing his opponent
I agree with the removal of the undertaker. Me and a friend removed the deathrattle synergy from the original deck and added more mech synergy, which helped a lot, but I think I'm going to test this deck out a bit.
What was your guys first ever Unstable Portal Minion? Mine was 5 mana, Tirion Fordring.
the two times unstable portal has been used against me, they got Sylvanas Windrunner and Grommash Hellscream. I almost broke my keyboard in half :(
I like how Trump is really derpy in this video!
In the first two matches with the new deck he concedes and missed lethal on third one. XD
Ok here's what I've learned from this video :
AmonDestroye is the luckiest man I've seen in a while.
Around 19:10 I believe that's a misplay? Would the Dark Cultist of injured the Aucheni, and then he hero powers it?
no, dark cultist *adds* health, he doesnt *heal* health
perfect example is that you can power word shield something even if you have auchenai out :)
Ok thanks
OMG THAT PLAY AT 10:08 SECONDS MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD LOL XD That shit only happens to Trump LMAO
Are the links broken at 32:42 ? They don't load next video for me.
LMAO i lost it when you got the two mirror entities xD
Edit: OMG I TALKED TOO SOON XD KNIFE JUGGLER FCKED UP
Can't believe I havn't asked this yet, but what recording software does Trump use?
2nd round against warlock, " he thinks, this is a free win". indeed it was LOL
at 12:23 if he played fireball, frostbolt, leeper. Puts priest on 6hp, if he plays holy nova, fireball wins.
Clockwork Gnome seems really counterproductive with Jeeves.
Kept thinking when does he notice he took off the ice lances... xD
i really don't think you need jeeves and loot hoarder, maybe one jeeves but card draw isn't really necessary. If you play things like mech yeti and the 4/3 that summons a two drop, in addition to mad scientist mirror entity you have enough tempo to keep going.
It's painful that after missing an obvious and easy lethal against the Priest only a few turns later he has another pretty obvious lethal and he's too concerned with clearing the board.
While he certainly wins often this is something that Hafu brought to light in a Hafu/Trump arena session in that Trump's quest for value and card advantage often blinds him to pretty clear winning situations either this turn or over the next two turns. Control suits Trump so well he's actually not as proficient in an aggressive face deck.
17:20 where did the opponent draw his card?
17:35
I honestly think hitting the Cleric, not the face, would have been a better play there. Gives a good chance of a tempo stomp for the other player and the only way that this deck wins is by out tempoing.
Man, that pally thought he was in such a good spot lol
Opponent at 11:10's name lol.
BlackAlbino
Mike Ehrmantraut Those do exist by the way, most notably Vin Diesel.
TheVengefulEagle He's not an Albino, he's half Italian.
OverlordSolvent ...Well then...
Izzy Latham
A mage deck not running Unstable Portal shouldn't exist anymore...
I feel that it's such a great card right now.
When will i be able to do a Naga deck? I mean, what was the name of the beefy ones from wc3? The ones with the giant anchors? I havent played WC3 for a while so i have forgotten the name of the beefy baesterds.
They're male Naga. Myrmidons and Royal Guard. None in Hearthstone, but Zar'jira's side (the naga banshee sea witch) from the demo/custom campaign could turn out like this:
www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMcM7Mcr7MVG7MoH7MRc7MsL7Mbm7Mbk7MfI7Mwg7Mhz7Mxq7Mxt7Mty7MvT8R
Lady Vashj's side while fighting with Illidan and Kael could look like this:
www.hearthhead.com/deckbuilder#cMb7MMG7MMt7Mmc7MVm7zsp7MsY7MaD7MaY7MbQ7MbS7Md07Mfo7Mwj7Mwg7zwE8k
Nice, although i do hope they release some naga and myrms. All things considered slithereen or scaley is always welcome into my heartstone daily!
(terrible attempt at writing something). Buuut thanks for reply yewskriim!
Yep, no problem.
So, you turn an interresting mage deck (even if it wasn't optimised) into a classical deathrattle shit which we have been seeing since naxx came out ? :( I'm not a big fan of this extension, but I think there is a lot of fun and viable decks to play with.
My God I had such a hernia the second time he didn't see lethal lol.
Fucking hell i've never seen so many lethal missed ops in all my days
That definitly wasn't Trump's best day. First he missed lethal twice, then he trades in knife juggler before calling minions. Maybe he really was too much focused on finding ways to play jeeves.
It irritates me how many times he misses lethal.
Undertaker deck keeps being op as heck...
Wow i think this is the first time i've heard Trump genuinely laugh. i came
When playing agro you need to throw caution into the win and assume he doesn't have that one card. At least early on. Nobody keeps holy nova and consecrate is questionable.
He is just testing decks.. they won't all be winners. It is part of the fun.
Can you make a hobgoblin deck and showcase it?
Oh god that lethal miss
whats the current strongest mage deck?
mech mage?
why does no one play freeze mage anymore - too weak at the current meta?
*****
Not at all true LOL
LiangHuBBB
Because control warrior is a very favorable match up to freeze mage, which is running rampant right now.
his face after knife juggler killed egg. lmao
90% of my losses are excatly like this, running out cards in my hand
The second´s game missed lethal gave me some cancer
I played a similar deck and there where many games in this video he could have won if he did not try and play control with an aggro deck. You do NOT keep Jeeves in your opening hand. It loses you tempo way too much. Aggro requires reliability. Meaning you need to have cards you can play at all times that develop threats. You never trade evenly with an aggro deck. You go face instead if you are fighting a control deck.
With so much card draw already in the deck the odds are high you will draw into Jeeves later so you NEVER EVER keep it in your opening hand. The odds you get one of your two Jeeves is extremely high. Something like 80% when you will need it. I know because I played an extremely similar deck and I have an over 80% win rate with the Jeeves aggro Mage deck.
If you're a mage playing rush, you need to make sure you have enough draw, and you simply can't do that as a mage. So play the mid-game rush (like, old-old-old meta from Shaman), or play the super early game and hope for the best (like backspace).
No fancy thumbnail? I'm sad ;(
I always appreciate Trump's honesty, he knows he didn't do good, and admits it. Good man.
Was that really you playing against the priest ..?
Holy cow, the first half of this video was just painful to watch. Between missing lethal and taking ridiculously dumb risks, I don't even know man, Trump needs to relearn how to play aggro.
No end title video annotations. :)
Mr. Trump may I ask what do you write on your board?
What kind of deck is this? The highest cost cards are five 4 mana cards, one being a fireball.
Edit: I'm guessing this is a Jeeves test deck
This deck is pretty good; I like the echo mage builds better though. I've played both and echo is just much more controlling/aggravating
Did he just miss lethal 2 turns in a row in the 4th game (I think)?...wow ^^
Trump should do a video evaluating all the legendaries.
is this a control deck?
Trump, have you ever herped so hard that you derped?
answer: yes, at least twice in that game against the mage.
the double lethal miss tho!!
Who's that on the thumbnail? *-*
Even pros make lethal misplays sometimes...
LOl what happened to trump in the game at 14:10? just killed his own brain? twice missed lethal (16:07 has 10 damage and ping, still almost killed himself with the mirrored knife juggler.. LOL and didnt even ping it after dropping a creature and hitting the juggler once..)
Needs more Soot Spewer. Mabee.
Interessting take on aggro mage. Really makes any low CMC deck play like the divine favor decks of yore. Doubt we'll ever see that again.
I've been doing pretty well with a mech mage that has a bunch of spare parts and Antonidas P'fun
Yeah I'm seeing Mage as more of a mid range to late game class now. The flood of the aggro in the ladder needs a good mid range to slow them down, been doing some cool stuff with Mage as of late. And I don't know if its just me but warlock seems some how nerfed by the new cards or maybe it is just the nerfing of soulfire.
Trump you went against the same guy twice in a row and conceded both times
*AmonDestroye likes this*
wow at around minute 16 i was about to punch my screen haha
Am i the only one who thinks Jeeves is overvalued?
Best lose I ever had with agro mage was a priest dying next turn with 5 life.He made his 1/7 to 1/28 and then 28/28 and won!If only I had a damn 0/2 taunt ;p
Why arn't you using golden Cards??
I agree with the people stick to control
16:58, my laugh every time I beat a priest
why he havent got many draw ?
Big miss lethal a 14:40
Attack+frost+ping
There have many misplays against the Priest. You could already win without draw out knife juggler.. You should not draw out knife juggler first. When opponent's knife juggle hit you can fire blast it.
how can you miss lethal, after 3 losses!
the only thing that deck works well against is thoughtsteal.....
Control decks can get boring. I gave up playing control warrior because every game against priest went into fatigue. Very tiresome. Switched to a similar mage deck (with unstable portal, for good lols) and it was quite a fun change. Ofc I had to switch back to control once I got close to rank 10, but it was fun while it lasted. I recommend you give it a try.
why not FTP with naxx cards? i got naxx just by paying the golds
The f2p series start from scratch, and it would be a HUGE grind to get over 2000 gold to unlock the wings
16:10 was really painful to watch. Was that really Trump playing?
I don't think an aggro deck is your style Trump. You calculate too many outcomes and safely trade way too often.
Actually, main problem in these games is, that Trump doesn´t know how to build the deck in this new meta.. after few weeks/months, he´ll be again very good player. He just need to build new view on hearthstone and values of a lot cards, that have been changed.
LET ME GET THAT
I am by no means a strong player but stuff I seen here was pretty sad...
Shaman constructed please!
Ramp druid with Jeeves?
Ramp druid too slow for Jeeves
WHAT THE HECK ALL THIS MISSED LETHAL.
13:28 Trump misses lethal oO???
i think you should try switching out all other cards that give you another card. let jeeves do his job. make these extra cards your buff and strength. just a thought
Ilya?
Get rid of those awful arcane intellects, you don't need them if you have a jeeves
trump has put WAY to much value on Jeeves. It's a decent card, but it's not something you try building a deck around that runs 2.
play the giant medivh deck!