Does 117ci Make a Difference on the 2023 Harley Low Rider S!??
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2023
- Does 117ci Make a Difference on the 2023 Low Rider S!?? Today I'll do a test ride on the 2023 Harley Davidson Low Rider S with the 117ci engine. Ride along as I give my experience on some of the changes that have been made to the previous versions of the Low Rider S from 2021. Things likes suspension, gauge, and engine performance.
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Love my fxlrs with the 117. Beautiful bike in soooo many ways. Harley did it right and I thank them because every time I ride, I have a big smile ear to ear.
Agreed its a great one 👍
I traded in my 2020 Breakout 114 for the 23 Breakout 117 and I agree there is a very noticeable difference between the 114 and 117. Also like you said the 117 does seem smoother in my opinion as well. Great video and ride safe 🤘
Yeah I agree i was definitely surprised
How? I’ve owned every version of the M8 except the new 121cvo.
I’d be hard pressed to notice any difference between any of them in stock form.
A 107 with a cam is better than any of the others stock.
I’ve even owned a 131stage iv. That was definitely noticeably better.
My 1977 BMW 100/7 makes 67 rear-wheel horsepower from a 61 cubic inch engine and can cruise at 100 miles an hour at 5000 RPM and could cruise at 120 all day. From 61 cubic inches smooth-running cool-as-a-cucumber even in Florida in the summertime. BMW was considered the slowest motorcycle in the 1970s but they also last forever ♾️.
I have a 2023 117 LRS and a 1984 R100RS. I alternate between them on the weekends. They both press different buttons, but that airhead is definitely a unique riding experience. Unfortunately that hunched over position on the RS is starting to get a little much for me, though
Air heads last forever, but my GS1200 didn't. Was in the shop more than on the road. Traded for an '18 VSstrom 1000 and never looked back.
I was originally looking at a street bob but then a low rider s started whispering sweet nothing's in my ear. Now my glorious steel horse. 🤙
That's awesome good one fa sho
I did the same thing 😂
Just traded my 20 Street Bob to a 23 Low Rider S. That's 107 to 117 a definite jump. So far loving the Low Rider here in Philly. Don't forget the Low Rider has a 5 gallon tank which is a game changer. The dealer threw my Leather Pro Bags on the Low Rider. Great transition. The Low Rider is almost moving into a sport bike from a cruiser. Handles great on the city streets also
That's awesome! 🔥
Hard to believe that 10 cubic inches makes any difference. There wasn't much between a 340, a 350, and a 351, nor between a 440 and 455.
@spaceflight1019 They added a heavy breather intake which changes the tune. You could stage the 107 and get the same results I would think
@@spaceflight1019 A 340 to a 350 is less than 3% more , whereas a 107 to 117 is almost a 10% jump in displacement. So, with cams, pipes, tuners and all other factors being equal, it is three times the volume jump when compared head to head. Could be significant. I found the 96 inch in my Rocker C to be quite a bit more motor than the 88 in my Springer. Both have cams, tuners and pipes. The 96 pulls noticeably stronger. Don't even get me going on the 5 speed versus 6 speed, I still find myself looking for 6th on the Springer on occasion.
I also bought my 117 LRS at barbs! Nice people!
Yoooo nice that's awesome! 💯
Your voice over is excellent. You should have been a politician. LOL. Just brought home a '23 black LRS. I have to say, definitely a different experience than my Z900 and Z900RS. Has a black 2BR shorty exhaust and the tranny is really smooth. My RS trans is clunky in comparison. Have to sort out the tuner, but it's so cold in Idaho, it'll be on a tender for a while. All in all really enjoy it, even tho my neighbors and their dogs can't handle the big 1923cc rumble.
Nice have fun! You're going to love that bike
@@TheMotoJawn Thanks.
FYI, I also own a 2022 114 Street Bob and it is a very torquey bike. Im impressed with your description of the 117. I have been thinking about trading in my Street Bob.
Yeah 114 is certainly great. But 117 is noticeable I'd say give it a test ride
The handlebar length is likely causing the vibrations. I own a 23 LRS and with the stock bars there was little vibration, with the 14 inch Tbars I now feel a significant increase in vibration.
I was thinking that might be it too
I rode the same Low Rider at Appalachian HD Demo Days two weeks ago! I thought it was OK but I preferred the ST model, it just felt nicer to me.
I guess we all probably rode the same demo bikes haha
What do you prefer about the ST? Torn between the LRS & ST… the hard bags & especially the stereo is the main reasons I want the ST
Well, the 114 makes 86hp stock, and the 117 makes 94hp stock. Pretty noticeable difference. It's like a stock 107 vs a stage 2 107 almost.
Makes sense. Cool how noticeable it is
Definitely a difference. Not enough to blow your mind, but I wouldn’t seek out a 114 after operating the 117. Picking the 117 for the dodgeball game. The other team can have the 114.
My Sportster had heavy vibration through the handlebars and I replace the stock reps with kuryakin grips with the rubber in them and the vibration in the handlebars set would make my hands numb went away.
During my demo ride at Harley last year, the leader was ripping!
Niiiiiiice
Seems like it’s a natural thing to trade the streetbob for a low rider… I just did it! Based on the videos and coments I won’t regret. The streetbob 107 was my first bike and I’m really sad but that’s life… I can’t keep both! Can’t wait for my next rides.
The Low Rider S should have always had the 117ci motor. I said the same about the FXDR when it came out.
Oh for sure
I own a 22 Street Bob and the 114 power is more than enough for me. I recently took the 23 Breakout for a test ride and the 117 was noticeably more powerful for sure. However I think I'll be good with the power of my 114 for a good long while.
I agree with that 💯
@@TheMotoJawnI went from iron 12 to 23 lrs so imagine how I felt lol the power is always gona keep goin up every year or every other cuz look at the new Harley’s bout to come out wat is it 121? If u feel u have enough power then your good u can always upgrade your bike a stage if u want more..
Your street Bob motor stock?
@@dylancoric1194 yes sir, all stock.👍
I ride a 114 Low Rider S and I find the engine more expressive, it has more inertia and I prefer the feel of a more "old-fashioned" engine. It's a little rougher and less polished than the 117 and for me that's more than enough, I never exceed 3,500 rpm and I drive quite calmly, by the way, I've been following your videos for a while and I'm wondering whether the Street Bob might not be a better choice for me, I like the cool attitude of this sripped down bike which is more custom in spirit and less sport-oriented than the LRS, perhaps I will get one next year....
I'd probably stick w9th the lrs if I already had that
Rode a streetbob 107 stage 2 for 4 years. Now moving up to the low rider s 117 2023. Can’t wait till wednesday. Very curious…😊
I prefer the ST model low rider but my 12 year old dyna street bob has the 110 tire shredder kit making 106hp/122tq so it would beat these 117's pretty easy even if they had a stage 1, still killer bikes though!!!
That sounds like a good time
Isn’t that pretty close to what the 117 does? Upper 90s hp and 127ft•lbs
its because the fxlrs has rubber bushings for the risers that take a lot vibrations away.
I need that
@@TheMotoJawn tbar set up would be sick on the red streetbob.
Yes this 23 fxlrs is much smother motorcycle that fxbb I sold my 21 after test driving this bike. It's much smother than the st model also vibration in handlebars from fairing and the riser make the s a way better handling bike.
I would agree
If you look at the magazine road tests and websites you learn that most Harleys turn the quarter in around 13 seconds regardless of the displacement.
I believe that
Back in the late 60s and early 70s many a muscle car hotshot lost to a Sportster, and the new Honda 750 and the Kawasaki 750 two stroke.
I don’t believe the bike does13 second time
@@reginaldmclean8013The only magazine article I could find was a Cycle World with a Softail S Slim with a 12.68 1/4 mile (no modifications).
Low Rider S '22 Cycle World, ran 12.59, 111.1 mph. With a full exhaust and tune probably 12.0 flat. Not bad for almost 700 lbs. in a mild state of tune. Seen stage 4 131's running 10's. One video had a new MT10- 165 hp against 131 HD -150 hp run neck and neck up to 130. HD almost 200 lbs. heavier. Impressive.
Wish I would've been able to get to the demo event, although riding a 114 or 117 might not be good coming from my 107.😂
Tread lightly 🤣
@@TheMotoJawn Yep!😎
I have a 114 street bob man how do you guys make that bike look big? I feel like a circus bear on mine...
Sick gloves! Where they from?
Fogy garage ursus cheif
Theres no replacement for displacement‼
No.
Save money and get the 107 if you can find one and so some engine upgrades
I have a 018 FLFBS , it vibrants in the bars, has Blow exhaust , monster sucker intake, 14 in. Apes, 475 S&S Cam kit, had to put new pump in, 105 hp, 120 tourque ,😎
I never noticed 33cc's that much, but ive never rode a 117 either.
I think they used a different cam in the 117 to give it a little extra.. 3 cubic inches is not that much.
You are correct about the cam. HD actually don't recommend a screaming eagle power cam being fitted as there is so little difference. Match that with the heavy breather air filter you only need new mufflers and a flash tune and it's at stage 1 for the previous models.
Does the display show the gear you are in? Or do you just have to go by feel?
Yeah it's in the display
When ya trading in the Bob? That low fits you better, imo.
I dont know it's nice but. I'm good with the bob.
@@TheMotoJawn Oh no doubt, that Bob is a beautiful motorcycle sir but I think that low is gonna live in your head for a little while.
Power band is about the same as my 85 Suzuki GS1150. Plenty. The 114 is good on the high end and the 107 is good off the line. The 117 has both.
I bought the 21 LRS. I actually like the speedo on the tank better then up on bars. I think it looks weird and cheap up there. But that's just my opinion. Great bike though. One of if not the best bike harley makes
It's will definitely go down as one of the best they've ever made
@@TheMotoJawn I'm actually thinking of trading in my 21 for new 23 with 117 and the better shock in the rear with more travel. So you are saying there's a noticeable difference between the two?
@@godsduality2229 yeah after having ridden both I would definitely say so. But I would also say give it a test ride first and make sure you like it
@The Moto Jawn thanks! Ya that reason and the upgraded shock with heavy breather are main reasons. And I thought I would hate that white but I love that color
Agreed on the speedo. It looked way better on the tank and also makes the t bar set up look like crap to me and not to mention more expensive to upgrade.
Unfortunately I can't help with this comparison. I went from an 883 Iron to the 117 Lowrider. Oh wow!
I'm sure you're loving it
I'm on the fence whether to trade my 883 in for the 117 lowrider. What do you like more about the 117 vs 883?
@@Heli_Yea of course sheer power would be number one. The 117 starts pulling from the first twist of the throttle and keeps on pulling. The torque never stops. You’re cruising easily at 70 mph in 5th gear and still have a gear left over. The suspension provides a better ride and you have a more stable ride on the highway.
@@pmh1nic Cool, thanks for the info!
I'm thinking about going from my 2919 883 to the 2023 Low Rider.
What are your thoughts?
Very doable. Makes a lot of sense to go up from a sportster to a softail
@@TheMotoJawn I have been trying to find a video of a comparison of the 2.
House Harley-Davidson taking care of the compensator problems the overheating problems the wet something problems as well as the other problems regarding the milwaukee-eight been attracted to and corrected. Or do they just stop talking about it and let the customer deal with it when problems happen?
In Australia there is a $8500 difference between the LRS and Street Bob. Don’t know if the LRS is $8500 better. Love riding both and the LRS is a superior bike IMO. Still not sure if I can justify the large amount of extra cash for the LRS. Any advice?
You have to really like the looks of the LRS. $8500 added in parts to a street bob goes a long way.
It’s hard to justify the added expense in my opinion. (Even though I ended up with the LRS)
@@TeensierPython thanks for your response. Can I ask why you chose the LRS?
@@Maggieismydog I liked the looks.
My first M8 soft tail was the fat bob (114ci, no mods). Then I had a road glide (131ci stage iv; ohlins suspension).
Now I have a LRS (117ci; added some saddlebags)
My favorite riding bike was the fat bob. The power was amazing with the road glide and it was comfortable. The LRS is cool looking but I don’t think it handles any better than the fat bob.
I regret selling my road glide. But I was moving across country and didn’t have space for a bike.
LRS is fun. Not sure why I bought it. I like the way it looks but the fairing is too small.
I think looking back I’d probably have kept the road glide because of the money I sunk into it. Or maybe just gone with a steet bob for the money savings and done some tasteful mods.
It just goes back to if you like the way it looks and you have to have the upside down forks twin brakes. The bigger motor is cool for bragging rights but a cam’d 107 will stomp it.
@@TeensierPython really appreciate your reply and feedback on the bikes. For the amount of riding I do the street Bob seems to be the best value, I also prefer the look too. We also just ordered a Nightster S for my wife as it fits her perfectly so money needs to be spent wisely as it were. I’ll most likely get the Street Bob. Ride safe mate!
@@Maggieismydog glad I could help. Love the nightster s as well.
You really can’t go wrong with any of the M8 bikes. If you are in love with any of them; don’t look at the price. Don’t go hungry or anything but just get the one you love the most. Take your time and get the right one.
I’ve bought and sold so many bikes in the last 4 years. I should have just taken my time and bought once.
the 117 has a bigger cam
No in sex maybe 3 more inches is a good thing but not in a engine…the gains are minimal
What is wrong with Harley-Davidson? The British had one horsepower per cubic inch back in the 1950s and 60s. How come the 114 does not make 114 horsepower at the rear wheel? Especially with a 4-valve head. Pathetic if you ask me. They should do better right from the factory. After all you pay a mint for a brand new Harley Davidson.
And the Busa and Ninja, close to 200 hp, 11 to 12 grand, , 117 ci, has different cam, its only 3 ci, ,
Busa and Ninja 14r, there at 112 ft lb of tourqe, not bad for how small the engine is to a 117ci, lol, wonder why Harley so far behind, well there a shit design, lol, come on they have a 20 lb chain to the trans, lmao, think of the resistance in the drive train, , 🤔☠