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  • @randomjoe7646
    @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +4

    These Skewers should work like the ones I had used amzn.to/2B7tpVM

    • @emersonronald5328
      @emersonronald5328 3 роки тому

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    • @jalentristen1258
      @jalentristen1258 3 роки тому

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      @emersonronald5328 3 роки тому

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    • @emersonronald5328
      @emersonronald5328 3 роки тому

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    • @jalentristen1258
      @jalentristen1258 3 роки тому

      @Emerson Ronald You are welcome :D

  • @frankturi2148
    @frankturi2148 3 роки тому +6

    I purchased an aftermarket grate. The openings were narrower and had a fan protector. It was a complete fail. The grill wouldn’t get up to temp. The other issue is if you like to throw chunk wood like applewood, cherry etc it wouldn’t allow any small pieces of charcoal to fall through to ignite enough to cause smoke. Switched back to the grate that came with the 1050 and it works flawlessly.

  • @terrymiller5292
    @terrymiller5292 2 роки тому +1

    Did this yesterday and it sure did the trick! So easy! Thanks!!

  • @emericanchaos
    @emericanchaos 3 роки тому +5

    Just a couple thoughts.
    I think the spacing on the grates could be set wider so that the coals drop before too much ash builds up. If they get too ashed over the fan will pull ash up into the food or at least into the fan.
    Second, it seems to be a more common practice to add wood chunks into your ash bin to get a good wood smoke going. Slowing the addition of coal into the ash bin could make that technique less effective.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  3 роки тому +2

      I haven't had a problem with ash in food and the newer grate does tighten the spacing a bit. You are correct about the wood chunks and the coals dropping on them but you can effectively customize this by having as many in as you want. I generally always have 2 in but bump it up to 4 for longer low and slow cooks but everyone has their own preference. With just 2, I can easily get higher temps. With 4, it has a tough time getting up to that high searing range.

  • @tonyromano4341
    @tonyromano4341 3 роки тому +10

    Masterbuilt has since changed the design of this grate to catch more fuel.

  • @jobjosephokello1406
    @jobjosephokello1406 3 роки тому +4

    The 800 series has an updated grate! Pretty nice

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  3 роки тому

      I saw that.

    • @TheDeadsDescent
      @TheDeadsDescent 3 роки тому +1

      was gonna post the same thing. the new grate is fantastic, in less its the tiniest bits, its not getting thru

  • @tl56kmair
    @tl56kmair Рік тому

    From what I understand the grate originally had smaller gaps. The one like you have is the new version. I can't remember why they changed it but it was for good reason.

  • @russellhoward5436
    @russellhoward5436 4 роки тому +3

    I used two. Seemed to work fine. But yeah, this is the mod I think is most useful to the charcoal grate

  • @gerardbonner6464
    @gerardbonner6464 4 роки тому +6

    Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +2

      You don't fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.

  • @thedesertpooch9664
    @thedesertpooch9664 2 роки тому

    good info .... now how do you stop the grease leaking down the legs of the 560??!!

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  2 роки тому

      Something must not be sealing properly on yours. I know mine wasn't quite square when it came from the factory so that doesn't surprise me too much.

  • @randomjoe7646
    @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +9

    I say wire snips in the video but meant tin snips. In any event, I hope someone finds this helpful.

  • @gsppuffer
    @gsppuffer 4 роки тому +1

    So a chimney and a finer grate for the burner is the 2 must mods

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      Yes, the stainless steel liner for the hopper and a finer grate are what I would recommend for anyone looking at mods.

  • @jroalan
    @jroalan 2 роки тому +1

    I use a kitty litter scoop and separate the small chunks out of the ash bin and drop them right back in the hopper.

  • @indicagirl7876
    @indicagirl7876 2 роки тому

    Hi we just purchased the same grill. When you smoke does smoke come out the lid of the coal hopper when smoking. Smoke is leaking out the seal. Does yours do the same. Thank you. Great video 👍. Going to put the skewers in ours as well 👍

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  2 роки тому +1

      No, but mine seals really well thankfully. I know a lot of other people have had that happen. If it's only a small amount it's not a big deal but the more you have, the more it's directing heat and smoke where it shouldn't be and you'll also have more charcoal getting lit further up the hopper. It's worth keeping an eye on.

    • @indicagirl7876
      @indicagirl7876 2 роки тому

      @@randomjoe7646 I double folded a piece of foil and lift the lid. When I placed it down and secured the lid again the smoke stopped leaking. The digital display is bad and will not read. It remains black. Masterbuilt is sending us a replacement digital display. Thank you for your reply. God bless 🙏

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  2 роки тому

      @@indicagirl7876 Glad you got it worked out.

  • @rdf126
    @rdf126 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video. Do you find that your lit charcoal creeps further up the stack above the firebox since coal isn't falling through the grate until it's much smaller in size? I'm curious if you notice more lit coals well above the firebox given that the coal on the bottom takes longer to fall through now. I'd hate to have issues in the stack above the firebox as I don't think it was meant to have lit coals higher up in the stack. Thank you.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      No, It doesn't seem to go any higher at all. The only change I see is the with the small pieces taking longer to fall through the air flow isn't as good so you can't always reach the higher temperatures. I actually think my box is in better shape than most with the grill, at least most without the stainless steel firebox mod that's out there. The only issue I really see with the box is with moisture slowly building because of the solid top seal.

    • @rdf126
      @rdf126 4 роки тому +1

      @@randomjoe7646 Thank you

  • @drunkencynic1179
    @drunkencynic1179 3 роки тому

    Do you still get enough hot coals falling through to get the wood chunks smoking well?

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  3 роки тому +1

      I do but I've been running with only 2 for a while now. Seems to give the best performance for me so I can still get higher temps.

  • @AndyRock1
    @AndyRock1 Рік тому +1

    This is an old issue now. I hope those who might be interested in this grill but might think otherwise due to this video see this. Masterbuilt revised the charcoal grate. It works amazingly now, and I can get nearly 10 hours of smoking at 225 with a 16 lb bag of briquettes

  • @MAKExEVIL
    @MAKExEVIL 4 роки тому +1

    Is the bottom of your chimney already rusting out? 4:05

  • @samcro9168
    @samcro9168 4 роки тому

    i just got the 1050 and the grate didnt have the big gaps like you have shown. maybe Masterbuilt updated the grates recently.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      I'm officially intrigued. I went to their site and the photo for the grate is not currently out there in the parts section, I'm not sure if that's new or not but if they made an adaptation, that would be great. www.masterbuilt.com/products/9904190046-manifold-ash-grate-kit?_pos=24&_sid=21bc86c41&_ss=r

    • @samcro9168
      @samcro9168 4 роки тому

      @@randomjoe7646 i reversed seared a pair of ribeye's. only had 3 small pieces of coal in the ash bin. just smaller than a golf ball.

  • @TealDobber
    @TealDobber 3 місяці тому

    Hey, how did this work out for you in the long run? While this is a great idea, I wonder if those skewers breakdown quickly or start warping and falling out.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  2 місяці тому

      They did warp a bit but honestly it was a couple years before I needed to consider replacing them. I ended up getting the new grate from Masterbuilt that is supposed to solve for the problem but honestly I liked this setup better. I left the middle without a skewer and it let's a few more coals drop but I don't have as much trouble with ash buildup. If I have a middle one in, too much ash stayed up top and it's harder to light and also has some challenges hitting higher temps when I want to.

    • @TealDobber
      @TealDobber 2 місяці тому

      @randomjoe7646 I actuality found that I'm having that issue when I use chunk charcoal. Haven't tried this, but I could definitely see the benifit with brickettes.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  2 місяці тому

      @@TealDobber yep, I like that it's customizable and cheap. Just add a couple to help limit the waste but leave enough gap to allow it to still get to the temp you want or leave a gap on one side to allow some coals to drop down on your wood chunks, etc. Pretty simple.

  • @LJfootball14
    @LJfootball14 4 роки тому

    Tip or Suggestion:
    You possibly won’t have a need for this mod if using B&B Charcoal Briquettes IMO. I want to stress too that it’s just my opinion. I’m not saying my opinion is right or will work for you. It just worked out this way for me.
    If your charcoal of choice is KINGSFORD then I would consider/recommend this skewer-mod, but also remember Masterbuilt placed those slots there for a reason on that charcoal catch tray.
    With this mod in essence what you’re doing is not letting those ashed up briquettes fall down into the hopper which in some instances will hurt your smoke output inside the grill and possibly mess with your grill temperature.
    At most I would try 2 of them and see how you like it. In my instance, I tried it with 2 skewers first with B&B (I also add wood chunks) but this prevented a good even smoke throughout my cook. I also noticed that my different installed temp probe on the front, was suddenly way off from the digital display temp reading.
    I took the skewers out about midway into the cook and my temp gauge then slowly crept up to very close to my digital temp display.
    Note: As indicated above, I changed out (mod) the temp gauge probe on the front of the grill so I could see true temps towards the front middle of the grill instead of the included cheap looking Masterbuilt stock temp gauge. I had been using the new temp probe/gauge many times before this skewer mod and both temp readings (digital display & temp gauge/probe) always seemed within 5 to 15-degrees.
    I tried the 2-skewer mod with KINGSFORD as well and the same thing happened to me and it was even worse but I think that’s due to the fact that Kingsford has been proven not to hold temp anywhere near as long as B&B.
    ** I also have the SS Firebox Mod on my grill **

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      Thanks. I do adjust between 2 and 4 based on how I'm cooking. If I want high temp, I go down to 2. If I'm looking for temps 400 and lower, I've been good with 4. That is generally with B&B Lump. I did some briquette tests and they do tend to get to full ash easier.

  • @manfromearth
    @manfromearth 4 роки тому

    I just saw this grill, new and assembled, at a local Walmart. It is in their clearance section and I'm more than tempted to get it. I've mostly been cooking on a Weber kettle. How is the 560 as far as fuel consumption goes? Should I anticipate spending more on fuel than I do with the kettle? Thanks... Very helpful video!

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      I probably have to let others advise on fuel consumption vs. kettle specifically but one thing I like on this is that when you are done, the slides choke out the coals so you can use the remaining fuel again. There is a fan to supply oxygen and when you get it up to 700 degrees, you'll use some fuel. They claim the hopper holds 10 lbs. of lump charcoal or 16 lbs. of briquettes for up to 8 hours of use, I believe they claim 10 hours on the 560 with same size hopper(just less cooking area to heat so you get more time). In my experience that's pretty accurate for low and slow. In my opinion this mod extends that a bit but I haven't done specific time trials, etc. because I do a pretty good mix of slow cooking vs burgers, etc.

    • @manfromearth
      @manfromearth 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I am really lucky to have gotten this grill assembled for $252. I've got a mini Green egg that is great on fuel consumption and a Weber kettle, so now my arsenal is complete. I'm really stoked about the 560 with all it's cooking area. Can't wait to season it and incorporate your nifty skewer mod. Thanks again for your reply and vid. Subbed!

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +1

      @@manfromearth I got lucky and ended up with the 1050 and cover for $500. Ordering error that worked in my favor. Feels almost unfair. I won't complain. =)

    • @manfromearth
      @manfromearth 4 роки тому

      No doubt! So have you done any other mods to your 1050 or did you just go for it? The mod that protects the firebox looks worthwhile, then again MB says the breakdown of the metal enclosing the bricks in the firebox is normal. Also, I'll probably get a cover, although I'm ok with just putting a tarp on it. Mine is under a lean-to, as well.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      @@manfromearth No other mods yet, I agree the firebox is probably the one I'd most consider. There is moisture build up inside of there and stainless steel would help protect it.

  • @eltee1216
    @eltee1216 4 роки тому +1

    I've also done this mod. Prior to the mod I would have lots of unburnt briquettes. Afterwards I don't have hardly any at all. Only downside is if u like to put wood chunks in the ash bin, for additional smoke. Not enough lit briquettes will fall through to get the chunk smoking. Because of this I usually just mix chunks with the briquettes in the chute.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      Good call out. You could get around it by sliding 1 or 2 skewers to the side to allow larger pieces to fall through and light the chunks but mixing them into the fuel is something I've seen quite a few people doing. BTW, I'm a Chiefs fan, your team is darn good and I wouldn't be surprised to see us face off in the Superbowl again.

    • @davo912
      @davo912 4 роки тому

      that's the reason Masterbuilt did it that way so you can put wood at the bottom. the way he is doing it all you will get is ash

  • @RossMalagarie
    @RossMalagarie 2 роки тому +1

    hears an idea, after a cook save the ashes, and pour them over the new charcoal, that way any ash will fall back down, and any bigger pieces will get caught on the new charcoal and get burned the second time.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  2 роки тому

      yep, I put the bigger chunks up there initially. Some will burn, some will fall through. This just helps catch more.

  • @RaNDoM_MAI
    @RaNDoM_MAI 4 роки тому

    What mat do you use under your MB?

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +1

      Rubber Grill mat I picked up at Menards probably 6-7 years ago. It is hot on the feet if you're barefoot, lol

  • @TylerFalwell
    @TylerFalwell 4 роки тому

    Thank you! Just did this mod today! Any suggestions with a cheap way to create a manifold cover to reduce flareups? I rather not spend the $100 I see some for sale for.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +1

      It's not something I've done yet but I've been considering it. If I do something, I'll post it.

  • @TheMrvinnyf
    @TheMrvinnyf 4 роки тому

    great idea! I will try this

  • @chrisanderson9542
    @chrisanderson9542 3 роки тому +2

    Use heavy expanded metal

  • @leogarza1988
    @leogarza1988 4 роки тому

    Did you do a follow up on what the after looks like ?

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +1

      I sure did. ua-cam.com/video/SXFFwjb3imE/v-deo.html

  • @madkappa1
    @madkappa1 3 роки тому

    Did you have any problems with the mod

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  3 роки тому

      They occasionally get a little loose but that's about it. For the most part it's just a set it and forget it type of thing for me.

    • @madkappa1
      @madkappa1 3 роки тому

      @@randomjoe7646 ok thanks

  • @rick1757
    @rick1757 3 роки тому

    I tried this and they keep coming out

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  3 роки тому

      That stinks. You can bend them and put them between the grates at a 90 degree angle instead. That won't let you remove them as easily later but should keep them in place better.

  • @chrisanderson7984
    @chrisanderson7984 3 роки тому

    Great idea

  • @uscfan123
    @uscfan123 4 роки тому +1

    I see you posted in June 2020, how are they holding up today? Does the heat release the tension rendering them not as useful? Thanks for sharing your idea and video.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      Hey, good question. I've got a follow-up on this coming out today to answer the question.

  • @JoeMcBroom
    @JoeMcBroom 4 роки тому +1

    Nice!!

  • @ozman1966
    @ozman1966 4 роки тому

    If you burn good B&B Lump you will only have white ashes left, cheap made coal does not burn up all the way to white ash like B&B

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      That was lump B&B.

    • @ozman1966
      @ozman1966 4 роки тому

      @@randomjoe7646 hmmmmm, strange, mine burns to white ash, I only cook low & slow

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      @@ozman1966 I do both low and slow and high temp for searing so it's a mixture. The ability of this to get to those high temps is one of the reasons I went with it over something like a pellet grill.

    • @ozman1966
      @ozman1966 4 роки тому

      @@randomjoe7646 true, it does sear a mean ribeye at 700° +

  • @Supreme2u
    @Supreme2u 4 роки тому

    Guys just go to LS Mods and get one of the upgrade kits....well worth the money and it will extend the life of your 560....$235 won’t put you in the poorhouse.

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому +1

      They are nice. Some people are getting a 560 and the mod is half the cost of the whole grill. I'd definitely recommend them as well if you can swing it. If not, hopefully this helps someone out.

    • @Supreme2u
      @Supreme2u 4 роки тому +1

      @@randomjoe7646 Roger that and thanks again for the vid.....job well done, HOOAH!

  • @StopJockingMe
    @StopJockingMe 4 роки тому +2

    You sound like Bane

    • @randomjoe7646
      @randomjoe7646  4 роки тому

      lol

    • @MXP90DL
      @MXP90DL 4 роки тому

      @@randomjoe7646 like you mod idea. I was thinking that this could be a bit aggressive and maybe cause the ashes to not fall enough and maybe snuff the fire. Have you found any problems or after thoughts?
      Also I liked and Subscribed to help you climb up the charts. If you have time could you check out my 1050 unboxing and mods video. If you can like and subscribe I'll thank you now.
      Happy Grillin

  • @jimmyjames1807
    @jimmyjames1807 Рік тому

    thats a grate mod not a hopper mod

  • @mrjhwalljr
    @mrjhwalljr 2 роки тому

    The Gravity series is total shit. I've had my grill for 6 months and so far have had to dismantle and clean it, replace 2 switches & a cord and the computer will not update or connect to my phone. The fan will randomly quit working. I've had emails to and from the company and demanded phone calls. I've gotten exactly 3 cooks out of it and have been embarrassed with guests waiting on food. IT IS A PIECE OF SHIT!!! Don't buy it.