Wow....Beautiful design. You've clearly put a lot of time and energy into your machine. I love the design, the beautiful CAD drawings, the innovations in material, joinery, CNC use, interlocking pieces, tight tolerances (snug fit) and the folding design. I completely appreciate your attention to weight and strength considerations, your embrace of the open source philosophy, as well as your concern for cost and ease of repair. I'm impressed by your design and with your commitment and talent and the arguments you make for EPPGs.... Brilliant work...I want a kit, man.
So awesome! I'd be interested in the kit option for sure. As an avid rc/fpv/paramotor pilot, it's so cool to see all those disciplines coming together. This is the future for sure. Thanks for all your efforts on this project. Looking forward to the future developments and videos.
Great job! Been looking for an electric paramotor for just the ease of airline travel/vacations. Not only is yours electric but the break down is AMAZING!! Not to mention your flight time seems the best around. Wonderful work and thanks so much for sharing with everyone. Definitely interested in a kit.
Great work! Congratulations on going open source 👍🙏. Do protect your design ideas,you deserve it. I expect your generosity will come back to you in any case. Marvellous human example.
If you haven't reached out to Tucker Gott, this would be something I'm sure he'd be interested in seeing. I'm sure you've heard of Tucker. Both of you are about the same age. Just thought you might get some visibility this way. Your kit idea sounds cools to me. The portability factor is way cool! I look forward to seeing more.
This design ROCKS! I'm in on the idea of a kit dude! headed over to your website! Awesome attention to detail and fit n finish. Open source and electric with kit option - awesome!
Wow, impressive. Looks great! Our family business has been a CNC dealer selling to large and small mfgs ...so we love this stuff and appreciate your effort and skill and design. Impressive. I'm also a HG, PG and PPG pilot and would love to learn more about this! Keep up the great work dude!
Pretty sure I would be in for a kit! Kickstarter or Indegogo might be worth a thought? Thanks for the great design your sharing and the videos. Awesome!
This is one of the greatest ideas for paragliding, we all like the convenience of portability, and this is taking it to the next level. You should deff sell a kit for it, like the frame kit, or a full kit, Ebay or Amazon will be the best.
You could do a kickstarter for these kits. That would help you get up and running. I ran a kickstarter for my electric bike. If you have an questions feel free to ask.
Looks sweet! My biggest concern would be weather your cage design would handle power forward launches or even Partial power forwards? Higher performance wings like the HadronXX generally require that style of launch in L&V conditions
Very cool. Since it is so light wouldn't it be safer to train with, also quiet so when instructing you can hear what your instructor has to say. I would be interested in a kit. Best of luck to you. Thanks for going open source as well.
cowlikk yes training is definitely easier with a lighter unit. Also the other thing is you can get the wing above your head and then start the motor and not worry about lines or anything like that tangling and you still are able to talk to the instructor.
A surprising amount of the noise is aerodynamic. E.g. electrically power propellers still make a lot of noise, and ironically electrical systems allow for higher RPM without 'gearing', meaning higher tip-speeds and more noise. Some improvement can be made in choice of propeller (foil/material).
Selling it as a kit I believe is the way to go. That way you have control on the quality of parts and control of the manufacturing. If you are going to kit the project you don't want to release any of your files. After all you have done all the ground work for this project, by releasing files would allow someone else to take your idea and run with it! looking forward to the coming video's
Hi, this is the best electric paramotor design that I have seen. Its very generous of you to share your ideas but aren't you worried that some other paramotor manufacturer will steal them?
very interesting. love the frame. wonder about the noise of the 4 motors/props. what I've heard before is a fairly loud screeching as the props are spinning pretty fast. I'm interested in a kit however.
Just discovered this as I have just become interested in paramotoring. You are doing some amazing work. As others have said a kit would be great. Any thoughts on a motor with more thrust for use with a trike or a quad. A much stronger motor in the 220-300lb thrust category would allow for a lot more batteries to be carried.
This is so ahead of the curve in today's designs - I vote for kit right now and can make my own battery pack like I did for my e-bike. For those wanting to do their own CNC work but dont have a CNC unit yet - what is the largest piece so if we get a cnc we know size to get. I have been thinking of couple projects I need CNC for and this would put me over the edge in getting one - I am thinking 2'x2' would be large enough? Cheers, Patrick
Have you tried it with only 3 motors running? What happens if 1 esc or motor craps out in flight? Have you checked the effect of torque if that happens?
Fantastic! I have also been exploring electric PPG as I am very tired of the 2 stroke world. Would definitely be interested in a kit. Love the portability of your design. Will also look forward to your next video exploring things in more detail! What is the total thrust of your unit and the pilot weight limits? Thanks for sharing your work...you seem to be ahead of the curve on electric flight on simplicity and costs.
Lou Serrano I'm 190lbs and it has plenty of power. The all 4 motors combined can put out 165lbs of thrust so that should be plenty for the majority of people.
Very interesting build! I'd like a kit. What about the efficiency of a few small props versus a bigger prop? How much does it push? (50KG aka ~ .5 KN) Any other optimizations w.r.t. electrical power consumption and/or lift possible?
im thinking about designing a quadcopter that doubles as a single gear electric motorcycle. i mention this as you seem to know your way around design, thrust, the required kw motor, motor types & useful online resources. i have a few issues with my current designs however i have a feeling you may be able to point me in the correct power range regarding KW motors... thank you for your time in reading this and i look forward to any responses.
K.....I.....C....K....S....T....A....R....T....E....R....! I agree that Flitetest would be a great option. Get over to North Canton, Ohio where they are located and maybe get with Tucker Gott as well, he might consider test flying it and featuring it on his channel. Maybe an RC company in the US would back you to get your project off the ground! (Sorry, had to do it). Please keep posting videos.. I think this is revolutionary design. So elegant! Almost James Bond!.. Hey, that's an idea! Maybe this needs to be in an action movie like Jason Bourne or Mission Impossible! That would be NUTS! You would never get any sleep after that.. everyone would want one then!
PDWhite wow thats great, so its good even for heavier pilots. But that flight time.. we will not see anything better till new battery tehnology comes along
crohr1000 ya it will improve with batteries tech but based on some surveys I have done most people don't fly more than 40 minutes on average. I do have some new motors that are coming in and they will be around 20% more efficient then the current ones so that should help the flight time.
Wow, really awesome!!!! Will it be possible to buy this paramotor? How much does it weigh without the batteries? Will it lift me off the ground with 75Kg?
Great!!!!! Any thecnical info about motors, blades, esc and batteries? How much does the complete unit weigh with battery pack for a 20 minute flight? (+- )
You deserve way more subs. I'm sure this channel will be growing fast. I'd be interested in kit but not sure if it's possible without unreasonable high custom fees in my country.
Thanks a lot for sharing this! Could you share some background on the choice of propellers? E.g. did you consider cruise speed and more multi-rotor type carbon fibers? Looking very much forward to some details on the electrical setup - e.g. motor choice ESC's etc. I've build a similar sized system for an inflator for my hot air balloon so I'm really curious ;) All the best!, // Rune
For my part, I'd wish for PDWhite to publish his third video, the parts list and 3D files first, before he spends more time on explaining why he did what and what he could have done differently. We're all waiting eagerly :-) (Done! is better than perfect)
Hi , let us hear the sound of you paramotor. Is it quite ? I would personaly be very interested by your kit. Looking forward for your next video. Have you tried already different propellers ? Fly safe...
Laurent Pythoud it doesn't have the motor sound but the props do make some sound on there own. I I'll definitely talk more about the motor sound compared to a gas ppg. Also different props do make a big difference in sound.
Wonder if you are working on a better website? I only saw a page with an email request. Would also like to suggest offering a package with a frame kit, power parts list, with sources, and a construction manual. $2K-3K would be very reasonable for that.
Looks awsome! An apprentice Avionics tech and Im itching for an excuse to build a cnc mill. What were the negatives to running all aluminium (weight or strenght) and how much were the differences? Asking as it will be alot easier to source aviation grade aluminium than CF where I am.
PDWhite at 5:30 there seems to be an aluminum frame, have you experimented with the idea. Again love the design and look forward to seeing the source files
Either this channel is going to blow up really soon, or be doomed forever to obscurity. You might want to get featured on Flitetest or the like. As far as I know they haven't been bought by a paramotor company yet.
All I can say is genius!!! Your the man n that is exactly what I been searching for...kits most definitely yes!!!!!! What is the latest new? Ismail from Malaysia.
Hello, good jobe, looks like you are from my team :) I checked your old videos and also a drone fpvpilot a lot of comun things, yheahh Im also a paraglider and ppg pilot since 2007, Im very interested in your project to start my ppg eletric dream, any possibility to share with me this ppg project(your first prototype) Best regards
mike lange I almost have the files all cleaned up are ready to share. I'll end up putting them up one the website I just created Openppg.com so keep an eye out for them there.
you're actualy the first one that fully realised my fision of perfect transportation device! ..great work!
Wow....Beautiful design. You've clearly put a lot of time and energy into your machine. I love the design, the beautiful CAD drawings, the innovations in material, joinery, CNC use, interlocking pieces, tight tolerances (snug fit) and the folding design. I completely appreciate your attention to weight and strength considerations, your embrace of the open source philosophy, as well as your concern for cost and ease of repair. I'm impressed by your design and with your commitment and talent and the arguments you make for EPPGs.... Brilliant work...I want a kit, man.
You are a gentleman, a genius and a genie for designing this and making it open source.
I am not into paragliding, but you are a true inventor. This is amazing what you showed here. Congratulations!
So awesome! I'd be interested in the kit option for sure. As an avid rc/fpv/paramotor pilot, it's so cool to see all those disciplines coming together. This is the future for sure. Thanks for all your efforts on this project. Looking forward to the future developments and videos.
Great job! Been looking for an electric paramotor for just the ease of airline travel/vacations. Not only is yours electric but the break down is AMAZING!! Not to mention your flight time seems the best around. Wonderful work and thanks so much for sharing with everyone. Definitely interested in a kit.
I think the kit is a great idea and an excellent design!
Great work! Congratulations on going open source 👍🙏. Do protect your design ideas,you deserve it. I expect your generosity will come back to you in any case. Marvellous human example.
Love the folding concept, and the reliability of the 4 motors. Super excited about the idea of a kit
Paul,
I'm ready to buy a kit! Love the design and folding capability.
Make kits. I’d be interested, especially at the price point. Amazing design, great job
By far one of the best designs ive seen for an electric paramotor. Excited to see what comes next and keep up that great work!
If you haven't reached out to Tucker Gott, this would be something I'm sure he'd be interested in seeing. I'm sure you've heard of Tucker. Both of you are about the same age. Just thought you might get some visibility this way. Your kit idea sounds cools to me. The portability factor is way cool! I look forward to seeing more.
I love that kit idea. You are doing a great job here and this makes a lot of sense for all the reasons that you mention.
This design ROCKS! I'm in on the idea of a kit dude! headed over to your website! Awesome attention to detail and fit n finish. Open source and electric with kit option - awesome!
Thank you for sharing such excellent design engineering, bravo.
Wow! I can't believe you did this all yourself, amazing! I would interested in buying this. Hopefully you can ship to Australia!
PDWhite: I to think the kit is a great idea, i'm definitely interested.
Wow, impressive. Looks great! Our family business has been a CNC dealer selling to large and small mfgs ...so we love this stuff and appreciate your effort and skill and design. Impressive. I'm also a HG, PG and PPG pilot and would love to learn more about this! Keep up the great work dude!
Pretty sure I would be in for a kit! Kickstarter or Indegogo might be worth a thought? Thanks for the great design your sharing and the videos. Awesome!
Thanks for Sharing Paul. Love the kit and would love to get more info on the kit, frame components, electronics, etc.
This is one of the greatest ideas for paragliding, we all like the convenience of portability, and this is taking it to the next level. You should deff sell a kit for it, like the frame kit, or a full kit, Ebay or Amazon will be the best.
This is brilliant, I like it a lot, +1 for a kit for sure! Can see this transforming the PPG market!
You are very kind for sharing your work!
Am more used to building e-bikes so I'm definitely interested in a kit too - love the design! :)
I would definately be interested in the kit also. Great design.
You could do a kickstarter for these kits. That would help you get up and running. I ran a kickstarter for my electric bike. If you have an questions feel free to ask.
That is an awesome design! Since you have quad motors on there you could possibly do some steering with variable control like a thumb joystick?
Sweet!! Bring in the kit!!
All I can say is genius!!! Your the man n that is exactly what I been searching for...kits most definitely yes!!!!!!
Brilliant! Great work and qudos to you for sharing this!! I'd be up for a kit for sure!!
Nice design! Love the folding
Looks sweet! My biggest concern would be weather your cage design would handle power forward launches or even Partial power forwards? Higher performance wings like the HadronXX generally require that style of launch in L&V conditions
Very cool. Since it is so light wouldn't it be safer to train with, also quiet so when instructing you can hear what your instructor has to say. I would be interested in a kit. Best of luck to you. Thanks for going open source as well.
cowlikk yes training is definitely easier with a lighter unit. Also the other thing is you can get the wing above your head and then start the motor and not worry about lines or anything like that tangling and you still are able to talk to the instructor.
A surprising amount of the noise is aerodynamic. E.g. electrically power propellers still make a lot of noise, and ironically electrical systems allow for higher RPM without 'gearing', meaning higher tip-speeds and more noise. Some improvement can be made in choice of propeller (foil/material).
Selling it as a kit I believe is the way to go. That way you have control on the quality of parts and control of the manufacturing. If you are going to kit the project you don't want to release any of your files. After all you have done all the ground work for this project, by releasing files would allow someone else to take your idea and run with it! looking forward to the coming video's
Sometimes, as an engineer, you are more focused on the impact of your work and improving the status quo than making money.
Your design is Awesome and a kit would be great to be able to purchase.
Hi, this is the best electric paramotor design that I have seen. Its very generous of you to share your ideas but aren't you worried that some other paramotor manufacturer will steal them?
very interesting. love the frame. wonder about the noise of the 4 motors/props. what I've heard before is a fairly loud screeching as the props are spinning pretty fast. I'm interested in a kit however.
Nice design, wish you the best of luck and look forward to seeing the results!
Please let me know when you have a kit buddy. I'm definitely in for that. BTW awesome design and engineering. Congrats.
Just discovered this as I have just become interested in paramotoring. You are doing some amazing work. As others have said a kit would be great. Any thoughts on a motor with more thrust for use with a trike or a quad. A much stronger motor in the 220-300lb thrust category would allow for a lot more batteries to be carried.
This is so ahead of the curve in today's designs - I vote for kit right now and can make my own battery pack like I did for my e-bike.
For those wanting to do their own CNC work but dont have a CNC unit yet - what is the largest piece so if we get a cnc we know size to get. I have been thinking of couple projects I need CNC for and this would put me over the edge in getting one - I am thinking 2'x2' would be large enough?
Cheers, Patrick
Most ultralight aircraft have kit versions. Great if you can do that.
Hi, kit is very good and opensource is awesome. Waiting for updates...
Have you tried it with only 3 motors running? What happens if 1 esc or motor craps out in flight? Have you checked the effect of torque if that happens?
Thats Awesome! Im interested in kit or build list. Thanks for sharing!
AGREED! the kit is an awesome idea.
Fantastic! I have also been exploring electric PPG as I am very tired of the 2 stroke world. Would definitely be interested in a kit. Love the portability of your design. Will also look forward to your next video exploring things in more detail! What is the total thrust of your unit and the pilot weight limits? Thanks for sharing your work...you seem to be ahead of the curve on electric flight on simplicity and costs.
Lou Serrano I'm 190lbs and it has plenty of power. The all 4 motors combined can put out 165lbs of thrust so that should be plenty for the majority of people.
Thanks!
What kind of batteries are u using? Voltage, current draw of the motors.
I would be interested in a kit for sure!
Hi a Kit would be a great idea
Really great stuff here. Looking forward to seeing your observations on flight time.
Jonathan Hair he explained it in previous video.
Very cool. I want a kit.
Excellent design waitng next VDO i like it
I'd love a kit as well. Really nice design man.
What is your email address?
Also the counter rotating props is very smart. The torque being produced cancels out each other so you get a straight line of thrust. Smart man.
every quadcopter works just like that :-)
Etienne Renaud yes that's what I'm talking about. Smart.
what motors do you use? I was thinking of building one of these with an ozone spark wing, and turnigy rotomax 50cc motors
Great design! You deserve a lot more views
I am interested in the performance......can it fly a 250lb person up to 18,000ft?
Very interesting build!
I'd like a kit.
What about the efficiency of a few small props versus a bigger prop?
How much does it push? (50KG aka ~ .5 KN)
Any other optimizations w.r.t. electrical power consumption and/or lift possible?
Each motor puts out around 18-19kg of thrust so 75kg of thrust total. Yes larger the prop the more efficiency.
~75KG is great! Atmospheric autopilot for auto-level? ;-)
Beautiful design, professionally thought out. Would be interested in kit or access to the cad files to take a closer look.
I'm definitely interested in a kit as well!
Awesome work man.
Just great! I'll get the kit!
yes to kits. thank you.
im thinking about designing a quadcopter that doubles as a single gear electric motorcycle. i mention this as you seem to know your way around design, thrust, the required kw motor, motor types & useful online resources. i have a few issues with my current designs however i have a feeling you may be able to point me in the correct power range regarding KW motors... thank you for your time in reading this and i look forward to any responses.
Very cool. Like your work.
You're awesome. Thank you.
K.....I.....C....K....S....T....A....R....T....E....R....!
I agree that Flitetest would be a great option. Get over to North Canton, Ohio where they are located and maybe get with Tucker Gott as well, he might consider test flying it and featuring it on his channel. Maybe an RC company in the US would back you to get your project off the ground! (Sorry, had to do it). Please keep posting videos.. I think this is revolutionary design. So elegant! Almost James Bond!.. Hey, that's an idea! Maybe this needs to be in an action movie like Jason Bourne or Mission Impossible! That would be NUTS! You would never get any sleep after that.. everyone would want one then!
What would thrust be in kilos? And flight time?
Each motor can put out around 18-19kg of thrust so 75kg of thrust. With a max flight time of around 50mins
PDWhite wow thats great, so its good even for heavier pilots. But that flight time.. we will not see anything better till new battery tehnology comes along
Btw you can make oposite propeler to turn difrent way in order to equalise torque so you dont have tourque twitch. Or did you allready did that?
crohr1000 ya it will improve with batteries tech but based on some surveys I have done most people don't fly more than 40 minutes on average. I do have some new motors that are coming in and they will be around 20% more efficient then the current ones so that should help the flight time.
crohr1000 yes that already done there is zero torque.
Have the kits come available to buy?
Wow, really awesome!!!! Will it be possible to buy this paramotor? How much does it weigh without the batteries? Will it lift me off the ground with 75Kg?
Barrio Sesamo Im working on having the eppg available for you guys. Also are you asking if it can carry 75kg or if it has that much thrust?
Hi.
I’m asking if it can carry me, I weigh 165pounds/75kg
Barrio Sesamo ohh ya I'm 190lbs and its got power to spare.
Great!!!!!
Any thecnical info about motors, blades, esc and batteries?
How much does the complete unit weigh with battery pack
for a 20 minute flight? (+- )
i think the kits a great idea!
You deserve way more subs. I'm sure this channel will be growing fast. I'd be interested in kit but not sure if it's possible without unreasonable high custom fees in my country.
This is awesome. Subbed!
Thanks a lot for sharing this! Could you share some background on the choice of propellers? E.g. did you consider cruise speed and more multi-rotor type carbon fibers?
Looking very much forward to some details on the electrical setup - e.g. motor choice ESC's etc. I've build a similar sized system for an inflator for my hot air balloon so I'm really curious ;)
All the best!, // Rune
For my part, I'd wish for PDWhite to publish his third video, the parts list and 3D files first, before he spends more time on explaining why he did what and what he could have done differently. We're all waiting eagerly :-)
(Done! is better than perfect)
It is very interesting. Which are your expetation about the cost of the parts for the frame?
Should be pretty cheap, like an arm to replace should cost below $30
PDWhite cool I wait the news;)...great work;)
Hi , let us hear the sound of you paramotor. Is it quite ? I would personaly be very interested by your kit. Looking forward for your next video. Have you tried already different propellers ? Fly safe...
Laurent Pythoud it doesn't have the motor sound but the props do make some sound on there own. I I'll definitely talk more about the motor sound compared to a gas ppg. Also different props do make a big difference in sound.
How about a hybrid glider for range? You could probably get by with a 10 hp motor/generator and just have it run flat out the whole time
Wonder if you are working on a better website? I only saw a page with an email request. Would also like to suggest offering a package with a frame kit, power parts list, with sources, and a construction manual. $2K-3K would be very reasonable for that.
yep for sure uploading a video shortly about the website and forum.
Looks awsome! An apprentice Avionics tech and Im itching for an excuse to build a cnc mill. What were the negatives to running all aluminium (weight or strenght) and how much were the differences? Asking as it will be alot easier to source aviation grade aluminium than CF where I am.
Ryan Bell ya mostly weight and strength are the big ones. I would love to see an all aluminum frame though that's what's cool about open source.
PDWhite at 5:30 there seems to be an aluminum frame, have you experimented with the idea. Again love the design and look forward to seeing the source files
PDWhite Also what bed size is required to cut the big plate?
Kits....Yes please!
I’d like to learn more. What’s your website.
The website is still in the works but you can put your email in and get updates when its ready openppg.com
I am interested buying the kit to.
Hey PDWhite, great job! Just dropped you an email.
If you offer a kit, I will buy one!
"In the next video i'm going to talk about some of the electronics, props, controller etc." I be waiting
Hi! Where can I buy your kit from?
@@darpankundra7463 Openppg.com
Awesome!
I would be interested in a kit
Either this channel is going to blow up really soon, or be doomed forever to obscurity. You might want to get featured on Flitetest or the like. As far as I know they haven't been bought by a paramotor company yet.
We'd also like to see some more fight footage, especially take off and landing, thanks!
Yes, Flitetest would make it blow up for sure.
All I can say is genius!!! Your the man n that is exactly what I been searching for...kits most definitely yes!!!!!! What is the latest new? Ismail from Malaysia.
Very nice man!
Hello, good jobe, looks like you are from my team :) I checked your old videos and also a drone fpvpilot a lot of comun things, yheahh
Im also a paraglider and ppg pilot since 2007, Im very interested in your project to start my ppg eletric dream, any possibility to share with me this ppg project(your first prototype)
Best regards
yes yes yes to the kit
Great video. How to make the kite?
The short answer is: You don't, you buy one!
I would love to buy a kit from you to build my own motor. I fly a simonini motor and I would love to change to electric
open source freesthe world
How can I get the files?
mike lange I almost have the files all cleaned up are ready to share. I'll end up putting them up one the website I just created Openppg.com so keep an eye out for them there.
Im a home builder myself but I'd definitely be down for a kit.
PDWhite you are one of the good guys. I love the idea of you going open source, but am also very interested in a kit!
Sweet Jesus on a bicycle - that is a nice rig - want to know more about the kit for sure
Cheers
Gerald g. Agree completely.... please ,please,please keep open source!
Please bring kits
Maybe a trike
perfect!