You forgot to mention TNT's Pirates of Silicon Valley (1999) with Anthony Michael Hall as Bill Gates & Noah Wyle as Steve Jobs. that was a good miniseries.
CmdrSloanne :☝🏾That’s the only one that I saw, and I certainly remember that they stole everything from a bunch of Xerox employees! 😌 I suppose that they could go back to Minsk at MIT, and again, I think a miniseries would do the trick!
The reason I want to see this movie is that, at least from the trailers, it looks like they are going to portray Jobs' life as a microcosm of what is wrong with corporate America - namely how charismatic managers and PR people falsely take credit and money for the hard work and ingenuity of people who remain invisible to the public at large (i.e. the engineers, programmers, and inventors who do the hard work to make these ideas into a reality). The movie, at least from the trailers, seems to be highlighting how America tends to reward style over substance. I hope my impression of the movie is true.
+Drake Santiago *This film is a pure fantasy on this part.* Real-life Steven Jobs was making computers since childhood, could fix a TV, and was electronic enthusiast and programmer years before ever meeting Wozniak. He has also worked as engineer in Atari and was competent enough so they have sent him alone to Europe to take care of stuff. Real life Steven Jobs had over three hundreed and fifty patents, including more than fifty of utility inventions (that have nothing to do with design). He was so eager to invent and improve things around that he had continued to do so even on the brisk of death in the hospital, seeing how inconcenient the equipement was there. This film is also a fantasy in terms of Jobs as person. When "biographers" are only interseted in creating *cardboard "evil genius" cliche*, they only talk to the same bunch of disgrunted former employees and bitter ex-lovers, so viewers would never guess how real life Jobs was loved by his family, friends and co-workers for decades, he was compassionate and caring, according to countless stories reported after his death.
+Denis Soliakhov Uh... NO. Wozniak was the one doing all the work for him at Atari, just look it up on wikipedia. He even lied to and cheated Woz out of his fair share (gave him $350 out of a $5000 payment) after Woz did an excellent job improving an Atari design. Woz was also the one to invent the first apple computer. Almost all of jobs patents were BS design patents like a patent for the shape of a handheld device. I respect Jobs for some things, he knew how to get stuff done, but an engineer he was not.
***** I actually went to see the movie a few days after I wrote this. I was pleasantly surprised. While in the hands of a lesser screenwriter, the three act dialog driven structure would come across as boring, Aaron Sorkin's masterfully crafted dialog really made this type of narrative work. I found the movie engrossing and though it was not biographical, it was an interesting character study, nonetheless. Furthermore, it highlighted an aspect of corporate culture, which I mentioned in my original comment, which I wanted it to focus on - that being how a charismatic sales person steals credit from those who do the actual ingenious work.
i assumed this was another autobiography by the trailers, but now that i know this chronicles his life during the product launches that made him a legend, im more interested.
I loved the dialogue of this movie. Everyone killed it. I like how it showed how broken he was as a person and how at times it did show that he loved his daughter. I hope Kate Winslet wins for supporting actress.
I think that Alonso's criticism of the fact that they didn't show the whole story was unfair. we've had so many Steve jobs movies that I think they really wanted to do something different
Missed you guys last week. So disappointing this film isn't available til 23rd. Had expected to see it on the 9th, but couldn't find a theater close enough to make feasible.
There's something odd going on with critical reaction to Sorkin dialog. Can't put my finger on it, but there's an article in this. Like... we were wowed at his being clever in 2000 and now we're saying "oh, piffle, that's just clever," as if an overdose of clever makes cleverness move from a word with positive connotations to one with negative. (Am I making sense? I might not quite have my finger pinned down on what I'm seeing yet, but there's a *thing* going on with critics and Sorkin.)
+RandomU5erName Cause I like watching WTF reviews. Still don't give a fuck about Jobs and won't be watching anything about him since it would bore me to death.
Nerdy dudebro's in Silicon Valley needed a new God to hype endlessly about to the rest of the world, and they chose Steve Jobs, because he was a charismatic bearded man who went on stages, wearing a totally serious black turtle neck.
Wozniak split off from leading Apple, but he never says a bad word about him now. I would rather see a Wozniak movie. He's the real engineer and a hero.
valhala56 that's TOTALLY TRUE brother.... in the name of Steve jobs..... THIS IS SHIT!!!... what you're making a film about his emotional life huh? drama?.....FUCK YOU.... YOU'RE MAKING FUN OF HIM ... HE IS THE GOD OF TECH... SHOW HIS TOTAL LIFE, HIS VISSION ,HIS INNOVATION, HIS STRUGGLES, HIS TECH, HIS VISION OF FUTURE, and you're showing STORIES OF THE PRODUCT LAUNCH!!! WELL FUCK YOU AGAIN.... I like Ashton Kutcher's JOBS. it's Steve original life and vision.
huuu??? Opening he denies his own daughter, Ending he lets go, becomes vulnerable (Finally) and ask for forgiveness. How is that not a compelling, complete arch???? 6.8 Criminal, this was rare meaning a real movie
I thought the most unique moment was where Jobs is thinking about the capabilities of a computer chip, but he is constantly haunted by his daughter Lisa.✔✔✔✔✔
+devsox1 the 2nd, if we don't count the tv movie, Pirates of the Sillicon Valley, that was about him and Bill Gates (made in the 90's). So you see they are not that many.
I like how you say that like its something to be proud of. You paid more money for an iPad than a competing tablet for no other reason than it has a fruit on it and people told you it was cool.
+tical2399 actually it was in response to the critics opening line you jackass. take your troll tactics elsewhere. I also didn't pay anything for the device. company gift. cool your jets.
I just think it's funny that you either have to view steve jobs as a God or the biggest douchebag who ever lived. And it seems like we get 3 types of biopics these days. 1. the Ray (Charles) type biopic that tries to show the man warts and all which seems to have become more rare unless it's about a gangster. 2. the social network kind where I actually think it's a really great movie but I know I can't trust half of it. Or the 3rd kind where it's literally all negative or positive and nothing in between
The guy on the right is like trying so hard to look for flaws in the film. I just saw it and i loved it!!!! They told things how they were, he was a dick but he was a brilliant guy and a terrible father. Exactly how things were, you can't change what happen.
A little OT, but as well-written and well-acted as The West Wing was, anyone else tire of the liberal propaganda? Seemed to me the message of each show was if only liberals were in charge of everything in real life, life would be so much better. I vote liberal but it's not because it makes life better, but it's less worse than if the other party was in charge.
+robin s Just because he does not look like Jobs? Please, spare me! He does not fucking need to look like him, he needs to act like him, he is an actor not a double. Michael Fassbender looks nothing like Steve Jobs but who cares? Robert DeNiro looked nothing like Jake LaMotta (Raging Bull) Ray Liotta looked nothing like Henry Hill (GoodFellas) Tom Hulce looked nothing like Mozart (Amadeus) Brad Pitt looked nothing like Jesse James or Billy Beane (The Assassination of Jesse James / Moneyball) Dennis Quaid looked nothing like Gordo Cooper (The Right Stuff) Angela Bassett looked nothing like Tina Turner (What's Love Got To Do With It) Hillary Swank looked nothing like Teena Brandon or Amelia Earhart (Boys don't Cry / Amelia) Leonardo Di Caprio looked nothing like Jordan Belfort(The Wolf of Wall Street) Colin Firth looked nothing like King George VI in The King's Speech (Oscar) Anthony Hopkins looked nothing like Richard Nixon in Nixon (nomination) Daniel Day-Lewis looked nothing like Christy Brown in My Left Foot (Oscar) Jesse Eisenberg looked nothing like Mark Zuckerberg in The Social Network (nomination) Leonardo DiCaprio looked nothing like Howard Hughes in The Aviator (nomination) Liam Neeson looked nothing like Oscar Schindler in Schindler's List (nomination) Russell Crowe looked nothing like John Forbes Nash in A Beautiful Mind (nomination) Adrien Brody looked nothing like Vladislav Spilman in The Pianist (Oscar) Frank Langella looked nothing like Richard Nixon in Frost/Nixon (nomination)
Well most people are enjoying his acting in the film,people who understands more about it than you do,so....this is your opinion only . And he will win an Oscar for that. I just want to see your face when it finally happens.
Apple is the American success story of the decade. or possibly even the last two or three decades. Unfortunately, it's nothing to be proud of. it shows terrible entrepreneurship that this success story of America is somebody who could actually sell little entertainment devices.
Okay I actually was a little too rough. I shouldn't have said they were terrible entrepreneurship, I actually just meant to say that if this was the best entrepreneurship we might be in a little bit of trouble. It definitely sold lots of devices; the thing is though, they're just little entertainment devices.
It's a excellent piece of cinema. Great writing, acting and direction.
And yet it’s unremarkable.
@@KydzPlays Unremarkable in terms of its release, a financial failure.
You forgot to mention TNT's Pirates of Silicon Valley (1999) with Anthony Michael Hall as Bill Gates & Noah Wyle as Steve Jobs. that was a good miniseries.
+CmdrSloanne and FunnyOrDie's iSteve
***** I know but it is still a biopic
CmdrSloanne :☝🏾That’s the only one that I saw, and I certainly remember that they stole everything from a bunch of Xerox employees! 😌 I suppose that they
could go back to Minsk at MIT, and again, I think a miniseries would do the trick!
"The movie does not provide an arc for the character" "The ending shows that there was some improvement there" Would you make up your mind Alonso?
The reason I want to see this movie is that, at least from the trailers, it looks like they are going to portray Jobs' life as a microcosm of what is wrong with corporate America - namely how charismatic managers and PR people falsely take credit and money for the hard work and ingenuity of people who remain invisible to the public at large (i.e. the engineers, programmers, and inventors who do the hard work to make these ideas into a reality). The movie, at least from the trailers, seems to be highlighting how America tends to reward style over substance. I hope my impression of the movie is true.
+Drake Santiago Wouldn't surprise me. Especially since Sorkin is a liberal.
+Drake Santiago *This film is a pure fantasy on this part.* Real-life Steven Jobs was making computers since childhood, could fix a TV, and was electronic enthusiast and programmer years before ever meeting Wozniak. He has also worked as engineer in Atari and was competent enough so they have sent him alone to Europe to take care of stuff. Real life Steven Jobs had over three hundreed and fifty patents, including more than fifty of utility inventions (that have nothing to do with design). He was so eager to invent and improve things around that he had continued to do so even on the brisk of death in the hospital, seeing how inconcenient the equipement was there.
This film is also a fantasy in terms of Jobs as person. When "biographers" are only interseted in creating *cardboard "evil genius" cliche*, they only talk to the same bunch of disgrunted former employees and bitter ex-lovers, so viewers would never guess how real life Jobs was loved by his family, friends and co-workers for
decades, he was compassionate and caring, according to countless stories
reported after his death.
+Jack Brown Those damn dirty liberals, taking our guns and ruining our country.
+Denis Soliakhov Uh... NO. Wozniak was the one doing all the work for him at Atari, just look it up on wikipedia. He even lied to and cheated Woz out of his fair share (gave him $350 out of a $5000 payment) after Woz did an excellent job improving an Atari design. Woz was also the one to invent the first apple computer. Almost all of jobs patents were BS design patents like a patent for the shape of a handheld device. I respect Jobs for some things, he knew how to get stuff done, but an engineer he was not.
***** I actually went to see the movie a few days after I wrote this. I was pleasantly surprised. While in the hands of a lesser screenwriter, the three act dialog driven structure would come across as boring, Aaron Sorkin's masterfully crafted dialog really made this type of narrative work. I found the movie engrossing and though it was not biographical, it was an interesting character study, nonetheless. Furthermore, it highlighted an aspect of corporate culture, which I mentioned in my original comment, which I wanted it to focus on - that being how a charismatic sales person steals credit from those who do the actual ingenious work.
i assumed this was another autobiography by the trailers, but now that i know this chronicles his life during the product launches that made him a legend, im more interested.
I loved the dialogue of this movie. Everyone killed it. I like how it showed how broken he was as a person and how at times it did show that he loved his daughter. I hope Kate Winslet wins for supporting actress.
I'm watching this on a PC, come at me.
Nobody cares.
apple is overrated to me
*****
So it is to me but at the end of the day it doesn't even matter people still make huge lines to buy their shit.
Enrique Godinez and i will never know why
*****
Because they tell them "you need this" when in fact nobody needs any of that shit. The Apple Watch is the biggest piece of shit they did.
I think that Alonso's criticism of the fact that they didn't show the whole story was unfair. we've had so many Steve jobs movies that I think they really wanted to do something different
Such a misunderstood, beautiful film. One of the best in 2015. Will be more appreciated over time.
Missed you guys last week.
So disappointing this film isn't available til 23rd. Had expected to see it on the 9th, but couldn't find a theater close enough to make feasible.
There's something odd going on with critical reaction to Sorkin dialog. Can't put my finger on it, but there's an article in this. Like... we were wowed at his being clever in 2000 and now we're saying "oh, piffle, that's just clever," as if an overdose of clever makes cleverness move from a word with positive connotations to one with negative. (Am I making sense? I might not quite have my finger pinned down on what I'm seeing yet, but there's a *thing* going on with critics and Sorkin.)
Watching this on anything other than a apple device...
Is there more dialogue than All About Eve and The Barefoot Contessa (I love both films)?
How do they come up with scores like 8.8 or 7.9? It's like they are using a formula to calculate the score of the movie.
Great review. I hope it's playing on my next flight somewhere.
I wish this was showing at a cinema close to me. Fassbender is one of the best actors around right now.
I do not give a flying fuck about Jobs or his work.
+TheSpiritOfTheTimes well why did you click then?
Well, they're trying to sell to the cult of personality.
+RandomU5erName Cause I like watching WTF reviews. Still don't give a fuck about Jobs and won't be watching anything about him since it would bore me to death.
+TheSpiritOfTheTimes - made from my iPhone 6S
+G.Paul De Jesus nobody gives a fuck about you not giving a fuck about his opinion
Nerdy dudebro's in Silicon Valley needed a new God to hype endlessly about to the rest of the world, and they chose Steve Jobs, because he was a charismatic bearded man who went on stages, wearing a totally serious black turtle neck.
Watching On My IPhone 6S📲
Alonso: making frustrated noises is not a review
I thought Christy was a Rangers fan.
Wozniak split off from leading Apple, but he never says a bad word about him now. I would rather see a Wozniak movie. He's the real engineer and a hero.
Was I the only one who thought Kate Winselt's accent really came out in the last act?
Yes! I didn't know she had an accent until the last launch.
+toastedcheeser I know right? I felt like I was watching a different character haha.
Christy is hot in a dodgers jersey.
Christy is hot -in a dodgers jersey-
She's pretty hot n anything.
+fordhouse8b why must this be discussed? ugh.
+aaronpolitical no, I'm annoyed by men's constant need to vocalize their sexuality - even someplace as non-sexual as a film review.
+Filip Bergström dude stope white knighting for an old hag
This is the one. You end up not even caring that Fassbender doesn't look like Steve.
WTF the scores didn't match all they said during the review. Oh well ...
your expectations of steve jobs is different from other people, personally, i think this version of him is best
" This is a movie!! " ----- Ben Mankiewicz
I am watching this on Apple device.
Other then the Arthur C Clarke into sequence I thought the movie sucked and also was just melodrama.
valhala56 that's TOTALLY TRUE brother.... in the name of Steve jobs..... THIS IS SHIT!!!... what you're making a film about his emotional life huh? drama?.....FUCK YOU.... YOU'RE MAKING FUN OF HIM ... HE IS THE GOD OF TECH... SHOW HIS TOTAL LIFE, HIS VISSION ,HIS INNOVATION, HIS STRUGGLES, HIS TECH, HIS VISION OF FUTURE, and you're showing STORIES OF THE PRODUCT LAUNCH!!! WELL FUCK YOU AGAIN.... I like Ashton Kutcher's JOBS. it's Steve original life and vision.
This just makes me mad that Danny Boyle wasted his time on another Steve Jobs movie when he could have been doing something cool
Like Yesterday?
Nah
huuu??? Opening he denies his own daughter, Ending he lets go, becomes vulnerable (Finally) and ask for forgiveness. How is that not a compelling, complete arch???? 6.8 Criminal, this was rare meaning a real movie
I thought the most unique moment was where Jobs is thinking about the capabilities of a computer chip, but he is constantly haunted by his daughter Lisa.✔✔✔✔✔
Did we really need another Jobs biopic? Aren't there other billionaires?
+Kevin Alvarez the other one sucked.
+Kevin Alvarez THIS movie was awesome.
What is your problem? Dont watch it if it's such a problem for you.
Few made as big of impact as jobs
Fassbender doesn't even look like Steve Jobs.
Wtf is this...the 3rd or 4th movie about Steve Jobs now???
+devsox1 the 2nd, if we don't count the tv movie, Pirates of the Sillicon Valley, that was about him and Bill Gates (made in the 90's). So you see they are not that many.
I want to see a movie called "Woz" about the real founder of Apple.
Yepppp currently watching on an iPad lol
I like how you say that like its something to be proud of. You paid more money for an iPad than a competing tablet for no other reason than it has a fruit on it and people told you it was cool.
+tical2399 actually it was in response to the critics opening line you jackass. take your troll tactics elsewhere. I also didn't pay anything for the device. company gift. cool your jets.
+Candyce Jones Yea yea sure sure. Hey if you like to over spend on under powered devices who am I to say anything. I'll just keep laughing.
+tical2399 continue to do so from wherever you are. I've nothing to prove to a random. enjoy your weekend.
You mean this is Sorkin's Steve Jobs
Can a movie be made about someone who actually gave something to society.
Wait...so Chinese folks in some sweat plant didn't make the Ipones and other devices?! It was all Steve Jobs?
The dude on the right could have played a good version of WOZ
"I love this movie. I loved it."
It's a good job I speak English cos Christy's voice is permanently set to 'bored'.
kutcher looks more like him but assbender did a better impersonation
Kutcher looks a lot more to Jobs but Fassbender made a better portrayal of him
Great review.
I just think it's funny that you either have to view steve jobs as a God or the biggest douchebag who ever lived. And it seems like we get 3 types of biopics these days. 1. the Ray (Charles) type biopic that tries to show the man warts and all which seems to have become more rare unless it's about a gangster. 2. the social network kind where I actually think it's a really great movie but I know I can't trust half of it. Or the 3rd kind where it's literally all negative or positive and nothing in between
"great parts, unsatisfying hole..." That's what she said! lol
Must say, for once I agree with the cynic Alonso
The guy on the right is like trying so hard to look for flaws in the film.
I just saw it and i loved it!!!! They told things how they were, he was a dick but he was a brilliant guy and a terrible father.
Exactly how things were, you can't change what happen.
Thank you Steve Jobbs for bringing hipsters into the tech industry.
no Jobs did not make the thing had in your hand.
What's with all these "official" movie reviews? Are you guys contracted by the planet earth to do reviews for all its inhabitants?
Steve Jobs didn't make any of those things lady.
A little OT, but as well-written and well-acted as The West Wing was, anyone else tire of the liberal propaganda? Seemed to me the message of each show was if only liberals were in charge of everything in real life, life would be so much better. I vote liberal but it's not because it makes life better, but it's less worse than if the other party was in charge.
6.8??? Guess we didn't watch the same movie haha all good though
...exempt from bad reviews, clearly, this thing with the shittiest dialogue I've heard this year.
of course alonso has to mention female characters
Luv christy 😍
I like all types of movies. But this movie simply bored me to death!
This movie is pretty much complete fiction. There are so many errors and complete fabrications it's actually a farce. Even the filmmakers admit this.
"Steven Jobs" lol
fassbender is not a good jobs
You mean Fassbender is not doing a good Jobs? ;)
WriterusAeternus
lol yeah ^^
+robin s Just because he does not look like Jobs? Please, spare me!
He does not fucking need to look like him, he needs to act like him, he is an actor not a double. Michael Fassbender looks nothing like Steve Jobs but who cares?
Robert DeNiro looked nothing like Jake LaMotta (Raging Bull)
Ray Liotta looked nothing like Henry Hill (GoodFellas)
Tom Hulce looked nothing like Mozart (Amadeus)
Brad Pitt looked nothing like Jesse James or Billy Beane (The Assassination of Jesse James / Moneyball)
Dennis Quaid looked nothing like Gordo Cooper (The Right Stuff)
Angela Bassett looked nothing like Tina Turner (What's Love Got To Do With It)
Hillary Swank looked nothing like Teena Brandon or Amelia Earhart (Boys don't Cry / Amelia)
Leonardo Di Caprio looked nothing like Jordan Belfort(The Wolf of Wall Street)
Colin Firth looked nothing like King George VI in The King's Speech (Oscar)
Anthony Hopkins looked nothing like Richard Nixon in Nixon (nomination)
Daniel Day-Lewis looked nothing like Christy Brown in My Left Foot (Oscar)
Jesse Eisenberg looked nothing like Mark Zuckerberg in The Social Network (nomination)
Leonardo DiCaprio looked nothing like Howard Hughes in The Aviator (nomination)
Liam Neeson looked nothing like Oscar Schindler in Schindler's List (nomination)
Russell Crowe looked nothing like John Forbes Nash in A Beautiful Mind (nomination)
Adrien Brody looked nothing like Vladislav Spilman in The Pianist (Oscar)
Frank Langella looked nothing like Richard Nixon in Frost/Nixon (nomination)
Juliana F.
but i'm not just talking about his face. his accent, mannerism and everything else is very different from jobs.
Well most people are enjoying his acting in the film,people who understands more about it than you do,so....this is your opinion only .
And he will win an Oscar for that.
I just want to see your face when it finally happens.
Apple is the American success story of the decade. or possibly even the last two or three decades. Unfortunately, it's nothing to be proud of. it shows terrible entrepreneurship that this success story of America is somebody who could actually sell little entertainment devices.
Okay I actually was a little too rough. I shouldn't have said they were terrible entrepreneurship, I actually just meant to say that if this was the best entrepreneurship we might be in a little bit of trouble. It definitely sold lots of devices; the thing is though, they're just little entertainment devices.
I bet Steve Jobs was a really boring person irl.
Haha Dodgers suck!!
I really just love these attempts to rewrite history with Jobs as a relateable human being. But I'm watching via android, so no.