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Thank you for your videos. I have been having a huge problem with the carburetor & found out Honda does not cover it 👎🏼 I did purchase full warranty for it. It’s only 1 year since purchase & I take it in for maintenance.
Wow, sorry to hear that. Not sure how an extended warranty doesn't cover carburettor related issues. Generally speaking Honda makes a superior product, bu this newest model falls short on several levels. I appreciate you watching.
@@TheLawnmowerLady - Not yet - In general Honda lawn mowers are pretty rare - most common is other bands with Honda engines. I look forward to check one out some day. 👍
I wish I had seen this video before, because I just bought it a few days ago. Love it so far but now I'm worried lol. I was looking for a Toro Super Recycler but they were out of stock here. Dealer told me they are not sending him many residential mowers. They seem to be pushing the battery ones at the factory. Thanks and hoping mine keeps on going😁
Check out my review of this mower (in the top pinned comment above). I think the mower still has a few high points despite the value engineering that occurred with this newest model. I think the biggest problem you need to look out for is debris derailing the drive belt. Their design chose to omit the underside baffle to prevent this. If you do wind up with a broken belt, it' not too difficult to replace with some basic tools if you are handy. That video is here: ua-cam.com/video/lsNDo2Ywnlk/v-deo.html I appreciate you watching.
when I remove the spark plug to check it, before reinstalling it I clean it using the wire wheel side of my bench grinder to clean it. It looks new again after I do that, then I apply anti seize to threads to make removal easier next time.
Have you ever added an hour meter to a residential mower? I installed one on mine when it was new and it helps keep me on track for oil changes at the appropriate time along with other maintenance items that are spelled out in the owner’s manual. I highly recommend them.
I personally have not, but have urged several owners to do the same on their commercial pressure washers and such. It's a great idea, but I suspect you are in a very small group of owners who actually read and follow owner's manuals.
Good video. Can't wait to see these engines on something other than a Honda deck. I don't know if I like that dipstick... Very weird design. I prefer the older dipsticks on GCV160/190 along with the older briggs classic and quantums. Something that you can actually easily read when a machine is low on oil.
Hi Stella, I really enjoy the videos. The HRN line has been out since 2020, I really haven't seen much negative press on them so far. The mower in the video already looks pretty beat up for being so new and having it's first oil change. Is the customer using it commercially? I own one of these mowers, bought it new in July 2020. It's been an excellent mower, I've had zero issues. Although I agree there may be some compromises with this new design I think it's a significant improvement over the HRR line it replaced. Overall I would recommend this mower, I think it's still a better buy over the Craftsman's and Troy Builts ect. Just my 2 cents... :)
The mower was only 4 months old the first time I saw it, and the customer just is really hard on all his lawn and garden gear. I made a video on changing the belt as he was using the machine as a bushhog. I made a second video while waiting for the belt on some of my other observations of this new design. Although Honda took some short cuts with this new design, with proper care and use, this mower is OK. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
The second use of this mower it started surging and I had to clean the carburetor then it started idling way too high so I had to redo the governor thingy. The tachometer I bought is cheap and reads over 4k but it sounds good. When I drop it down to 3600 or lower it sounds crappy and runs rough so I did it by ear and I'm sure it's rpms are a bit higher than factory but it cuts waaaaaaaay better now.
My advice is to check the return springs for the governor arm and the throttle plate. Maybe something is sticking in one or the other. If sounds like it's running crazy fast, it probably is. 4K is a little on the high side for sure. Thanks for watching!
Hello, thanks for the video...I'm working to replace front axle on Honda Hrn 216..would you know how to remove the front plate/cover that covers the axle?
As I recall, there is not an axle as such. There are wheel mounting plates that have a large stud that the wheel goes on with a nut that holds it in place. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Hi!! I just had the new HRX217HXA top of the line delivered and sent it directly back. Took 17 tries to start. This is one that my local dealer has fixed the Cam Release problem on. I think its the wax choke activator now. It has the auto choke which i dislike. I myself prefer a manual choke like on my 2008 top of the line residential GVC160 overhead cam. Still runs great but having a transmission issue and it costs almost $500 to do my self. I am fully able to but being 60 i figured i would buy one more honda as they are out of the lawnmower business. So, i do NOT want the new 200 engine w the bad cams even as my dealer is replacing, and i dislike the now autochoke so my option is the commercial HRC216HPA which still has the 160 engine w the manual choke!! Also shaft driven which is the best But it weighs almost 30 lbs more..... is there a Toro that you may think is made as good as the Honda commercial or the older honda residentials? Weigh will be an issue in the future as i am older. Tempted to just try to first change the transmission fluid and if that doesnt help replace the tranny. I am very mechanical...
My personal opinion... Any commercial mower will have a longer life as a residential mower. A new Toro, as with most any mower made these days is not as durable good as a 10 y.o. Honda That said, would you consider a used, good condition HRX series (composite deck with the older engine?). That machine retains many of the commercial like features found only on the commercial lines. I'm intrigued with the $500 cost of your transmission? AFAIK, all Honda transmissions are rebuildable. If you are indeed handy, drain the fuel and oil, pull the spark plug, and flip the mower upside down Take a look at the transmission gear box. If the screws holding the cover are not too worn, pull off the cover and check the gears, and the gearbox oil level. What is the condition of the pinion and matching gears on the drive wheels? Do the drive wheels turn when you engage the drive belt on the transmission? I really appreciate you watching.
@@TheLawnmowerLady Hello and thanks for responding. Yes they turn. Right now just groaning but still operabIe. am going to first check ,change, the fluid in the transmission. And checking gears. Yes i am a machinist, retired and very handy. If I do indeed need the tranny I found one for 307.00. I do see that draing the fluid and replacing quite often fixes. I have the groaning noise when moving. Mine is 2008 HRX217hma. Has always started on first pull so want to replace tires and bag and fix tranny instead of the new 200 engines. My local dealer is replacing the cams and or cam releases on each and every new hrx. They are bad and honda wont recall as now they will be out of the business and dont care. Lots of news on them on diff sites. I also do not want auto choke. My other option is the hrc216 as it has the overhead valve engine still........
I just got one. I've ran it twice and the 2nd time it started making a ticking sound for a few seconds maybe a minute then went away. While it was still warm I restarted it and the same thing happened. Oil level is fine less than 2 hours on the mower. Belt seemed very loose when I flipped it to check blade bolts?
Hi. Don't know if you can help. When I replaced the drive belt on honda hrn 216 with your help,thank you. Somehow I pulled the cable too hard and what looks like a plastic piece popped out . cable is slack and I can't push the plastic back up into hole. This is probably the worst description of a problem you have ever received I'm hoping somehow with a miracle you can picture what I'm telling you ,help!!
Look at partstree(dot)com for any of the mowers in the HRN series. They have exploded diagrams and you can be assured of getting the correct part. I'd hate to steer you wrong.
I think the oil will be so over heated and damage the moving parts Honda is really stupid and I can see why they got out of push mower business This engine will be a disaster
I have this mower bought about two months ago. While cutting grass the other day out of the blue the self-propel stopped working. I checked for broken/belt off pully as well as cable adjustment and could see nothing out of the ordinary. After about an hour or so I decided to start it up to check once more before putting it away and to my surprise it was working just fine? Any idea why this may have happened? Thanks
Honestly no, but some folks report any small debris, twigs, etc., will jam up the drive. Perhaps you dislodged something when you looked under the deck? Thanks for watching. Cheers!
i use royal purple oil i can see the mark on the dip stick better. i have a honda hrx217vkaa can you send a video on changing the drive belt thank you.
@@TheLawnmowerLady I mowed over a golf ball chopped it into pieces and shot it out like a bullet I have a slight vibration on my mower now what do you think? Honda hrn.
@@SANCHEZFLA863 My first guess is a bent crankshaft. If the vibration is not too bad, you might be a few years out of it before the seals get worn out an it starts leaking oil. I think there is virtually no chance the blade adapter is bent, it's very robust. Keep an eye on the oil level dipstick to monitor those seals. This newer model has a much lower oil requirement than previous models. It will seize up sooner with no oil. Here's a simple way to test for a bent crank without any special tools: ua-cam.com/video/4xqC5X8-3nc/v-deo.html Good luck.
Without prompting, the local lawn mower shop said to stay away from these Honda Commercial Mowers with the GCV-170 Engine. The Self Propelled system is exposed to the elements underneath and any mowing on wet grass spells 'Doom' for these machines. The self propelled system just stops working. Second, the self propelled cable going into the machine just fails at the connection at the body. Both are insane, one is high labor cost and the other is high parts cost. Very sad to see a full-on Honda product fail. I do not know of any engine issues but the shop was just going on and on about "Don't buy this machine," that I could not get into the ask question mode.
I agree Honda cut way too many corners on this mower. I did notice these same engines on the new HRX mowers with the composite decks. Those are still good Honda quality mowers. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady How I wish I'd known this, before I bought mine! Just had my self-propel stop working on me. It has been surging, and bogging, during mows also. What a cluster! I have babied this mower, and only used it residentially. I'd hate to be in the middle of a commercial season, with this one. I'll be replacing it, if my local service, won't fool with her. I wish anyone else luck, if they're also stuck with this model. I loved the deck, and the motor, when I got it; but wow...what a dog, in the field.
@@TheLawnmowerLady Well I sold my HRX last year for a Greenworks 60v battery mower and could not be happier. After seeing the work needed for these reminds me why I sold it. I'm so glad I just plop a battery in and go. Been 2 years now with zero problems and zero maintenance. No oil, no drive belt to mess with. Been a gas mower guy for 25 years, never through I would switch but found a good deal and thought I would try it. Held on to the Honda for awhile just in case and once I knew for sure I sold it. The Honda does hold its value pretty well when selling one.
@@Shortcuts2185 I appreciate you watching. I think this mower has an audience, but far fewer folks will be pleased in comparison to their older machines.
Less oil= more sales of replacement equipment. Ugh. Oil changes are going to be more important. The 160s and 190s were solid workhorses. Idk that the 170 will be.
I think it’s very stupid to have less oil because it’s so easy to run dry and burn up , o that’s why they did it, screw the customers Happy they got out of it
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Was all set for a Hitchcock mystery Alfred.. But a Stella service vid will be just as satisfying 👍
I should remember that next time Alfred is woking in the shop! Cheers!
Thank you for your videos. I have been having a huge problem with the carburetor & found out Honda does not cover it 👎🏼 I did purchase full warranty for it. It’s only 1 year since purchase & I take it in for maintenance.
Wow, sorry to hear that. Not sure how an extended warranty doesn't cover carburettor related issues. Generally speaking Honda makes a superior product, bu this newest model falls short on several levels. I appreciate you watching.
Great Info.Way To Go.Richard.
Good basics of a tune up. Check, replace and lubricate. Great intro to lawnmower servicing!! 😁 Thanks!!
You bet Mr G!
Big up from Scotland 👍 thanks for the tips
Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Nice video Stella - wish you a nice weekend. Cheers!
Cheers Anders! Have you seen this new Honda mower in Sweden yet?
@@TheLawnmowerLady - Not yet - In general Honda lawn mowers are pretty rare - most common is other bands with Honda engines. I look forward to check one out some day. 👍
0:23 That would have been the perfect time to put the Bat Man theme song and twist the camera view around, POW etc. You got to have some OG fun.
LOL!
Nice video Ms Mower Fix'n Lady and God Bless You!!! 🙂👍
Thank you Mr John 😘
Anytime ma’m 🙂👍🏼
Ta for the video Hun.. as always full of information
Cheers Sir Mick!
I wish I had seen this video before, because I just bought it a few days ago. Love it so far but now I'm worried lol. I was looking for a Toro Super Recycler but they were out of stock here. Dealer told me they are not sending him many residential mowers. They seem to be pushing the battery ones at the factory. Thanks and hoping mine keeps on going😁
Check out my review of this mower (in the top pinned comment above). I think the mower still has a few high points despite the value engineering that occurred with this newest model. I think the biggest problem you need to look out for is debris derailing the drive belt. Their design chose to omit the underside baffle to prevent this. If you do wind up with a broken belt, it' not too difficult to replace with some basic tools if you are handy. That video is here: ua-cam.com/video/lsNDo2Ywnlk/v-deo.html I appreciate you watching.
Every one is pushing the battery mowers but they don’t hold up and have to replace it every few years
Not a good idea 😂
Thank you for the video.
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
Atchu, atchu....bless you... LOL Thanks for the videos Stella.
Cheers!
Fine video Miss Stella
I appreciate you watching Mr Al. Cheers!
Very interesting find... Over torqued or defective part... Interesting to look over your shoulder!!
Thanks 👍
I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these in are shops in a couple of years.
No doubt Mr Brian, no doubt.
Yep there junk
All ready happening now
Great job as always Stella 👏 the is some good things on the Honda but as you said the is some not so good bits
Very true Mr Mark. Cheers!
very good video, thanks for sharing this video.
Thanks Mr IHG! I appreciate your support.
when I remove the spark plug to check it, before reinstalling it I clean it using the wire wheel side of my bench grinder to clean it. It looks new again after I do that, then I apply anti seize to threads to make removal easier next time.
Have you ever added an hour meter to a residential mower? I installed one on mine when it was new and it helps keep me on track for oil changes at the appropriate time along with other maintenance items that are spelled out in the owner’s manual. I highly recommend them.
I personally have not, but have urged several owners to do the same on their commercial pressure washers and such. It's a great idea, but I suspect you are in a very small group of owners who actually read and follow owner's manuals.
@@TheLawnmowerLady owners manual? What’s that?
I think all small engines need meter and low oil shut down from manufacture, but they don’t wont it to last but a year or two
Good video, thanks for the help
Glad it helped
Great video.
Thanks!
Good video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Good video. Can't wait to see these engines on something other than a Honda deck. I don't know if I like that dipstick... Very weird design. I prefer the older dipsticks on GCV160/190 along with the older briggs classic and quantums. Something that you can actually easily read when a machine is low on oil.
I agree! Thanks for watching. Cheers!
Good video
Mine is
HNR216VYYA
Hi Stella, I really enjoy the videos. The HRN line has been out since 2020, I really haven't seen much negative press on them so far. The mower in the video already looks pretty beat up for being so new and having it's first oil change. Is the customer using it commercially?
I own one of these mowers, bought it new in July 2020. It's been an excellent mower, I've had zero issues. Although I agree there may be some compromises with this new design I think it's a significant improvement over the HRR line it replaced. Overall I would recommend this mower, I think it's still a better buy over the Craftsman's and Troy Builts ect.
Just my 2 cents... :)
The mower was only 4 months old the first time I saw it, and the customer just is really hard on all his lawn and garden gear. I made a video on changing the belt as he was using the machine as a bushhog. I made a second video while waiting for the belt on some of my other observations of this new design. Although Honda took some short cuts with this new design, with proper care and use, this mower is OK. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
The second use of this mower it started surging and I had to clean the carburetor then it started idling way too high so I had to redo the governor thingy. The tachometer I bought is cheap and reads over 4k but it sounds good. When I drop it down to 3600 or lower it sounds crappy and runs rough so I did it by ear and I'm sure it's rpms are a bit higher than factory but it cuts waaaaaaaay better now.
My advice is to check the return springs for the governor arm and the throttle plate. Maybe something is sticking in one or the other. If sounds like it's running crazy fast, it probably is. 4K is a little on the high side for sure. Thanks for watching!
Hello, thanks for the video...I'm working to replace front axle on Honda Hrn 216..would you know how to remove the front plate/cover that covers the axle?
As I recall, there is not an axle as such. There are wheel mounting plates that have a large stud that the wheel goes on with a nut that holds it in place. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Hi!! I just had the new HRX217HXA top of the line delivered and sent it directly back. Took 17 tries to start. This is one that my local dealer has fixed the Cam Release problem on. I think its the wax choke activator now. It has the auto choke which i dislike. I myself prefer a manual choke like on my 2008 top of the line residential GVC160 overhead cam. Still runs great but having a transmission issue and it costs almost $500 to do my self. I am fully able to but being 60 i figured i would buy one more honda as they are out of the lawnmower business. So, i do NOT want the new 200 engine w the bad cams even as my dealer is replacing, and i dislike the now autochoke so my option is the commercial HRC216HPA which still has the 160 engine w the manual choke!! Also shaft driven which is the best But it weighs almost 30 lbs more..... is there a Toro that you may think is made as good as the Honda commercial or the older honda residentials? Weigh will be an issue in the future as i am older. Tempted to just try to first change the transmission fluid and if that doesnt help replace the tranny. I am very mechanical...
My personal opinion... Any commercial mower will have a longer life as a residential mower. A new Toro, as with most any mower made these days is not as durable good as a 10 y.o. Honda That said, would you consider a used, good condition HRX series (composite deck with the older engine?). That machine retains many of the commercial like features found only on the commercial lines.
I'm intrigued with the $500 cost of your transmission? AFAIK, all Honda transmissions are rebuildable. If you are indeed handy, drain the fuel and oil, pull the spark plug, and flip the mower upside down Take a look at the transmission gear box. If the screws holding the cover are not too worn, pull off the cover and check the gears, and the gearbox oil level. What is the condition of the pinion and matching gears on the drive wheels? Do the drive wheels turn when you engage the drive belt on the transmission? I really appreciate you watching.
@@TheLawnmowerLady Hello and thanks for responding. Yes they turn. Right now just groaning but still operabIe. am going to first check ,change, the fluid in the transmission. And checking gears. Yes i am a machinist, retired and very handy. If I do indeed need the tranny I found one for 307.00. I do see that draing the fluid and replacing quite often fixes. I have the groaning noise when moving. Mine is 2008 HRX217hma. Has always started on first pull so want to replace tires and bag and fix tranny instead of the new 200 engines. My local dealer is replacing the cams and or cam releases on each and every new hrx. They are bad and honda wont recall as now they will be out of the business and dont care. Lots of news on them on diff sites. I also do not want auto choke. My other option is the hrc216 as it has the overhead valve engine still........
Hello Stella!
Hello Mr Joe!
Your so good looking
I just got one. I've ran it twice and the 2nd time it started making a ticking sound for a few seconds maybe a minute then went away. While it was still warm I restarted it and the same thing happened. Oil level is fine less than 2 hours on the mower. Belt seemed very loose when I flipped it to check blade bolts?
I've heard a ticking sound with a loose blade. If it's still under warranty, return it to the shop where you purchased it.
Hi. Don't know if you can help. When I replaced the drive belt on honda hrn 216 with your help,thank you. Somehow I pulled the cable too hard and what looks like a plastic piece popped out . cable is slack and I can't push the plastic back up into hole. This is probably the worst description of a problem you have ever received I'm hoping somehow with a miracle you can picture what I'm telling you ,help!!
No idea, I'm sorry I can't help you. Maybe look at a parts diagram to see where it fits?
What is the part number for the black filter-COVER so I can clamp one back on mine!
Look at partstree(dot)com for any of the mowers in the HRN series. They have exploded diagrams and you can be assured of getting the correct part. I'd hate to steer you wrong.
I'M not sure I like them reducing the amount of oil these new engines hold. What is your opinion Stella?
Unfortunately, I think finding these overfilled will happen more often. 🤔
I think the oil will be so over heated and damage the moving parts
Honda is really stupid and I can see why they got out of push mower business
This engine will be a disaster
@@philliphall5198 Honda is not out of the push mower business. Where did you hear this.
ms LLL - as always, thank you for posting. i don't hear an accent, but 'zed' & 'spanner' have me wondering. military, maybe ? regards, dLL
Just trying to be more inclusive of my overseas viewers. Cheers!
I just looks at my stats for the last 28 days. Only 73% of my viewers are in the US.
I have this mower bought about two months ago. While cutting grass the other day out of the blue the self-propel stopped working. I checked for broken/belt off pully as well as cable adjustment and could see nothing out of the ordinary. After about an hour or so I decided to start it up to check once more before putting it away and to my surprise it was working just fine? Any idea why this may have happened? Thanks
Honestly no, but some folks report any small debris, twigs, etc., will jam up the drive. Perhaps you dislodged something when you looked under the deck? Thanks for watching. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady That did cross my mind and could very well have been the case. Thank you👍
i use royal purple oil i can see the mark on the dip stick better. i have a honda hrx217vkaa can you send a video on changing the drive belt thank you.
I don't have a video on that yet. I have one that needs a new crank and hopefully one day soon I can get that video done. Thanks for watching!
@@TheLawnmowerLady I mowed over a golf ball chopped it into pieces and shot it out like a bullet I have a slight vibration on my mower now what do you think? Honda hrn.
@@SANCHEZFLA863 My first guess is a bent crankshaft. If the vibration is not too bad, you might be a few years out of it before the seals get worn out an it starts leaking oil. I think there is virtually no chance the blade adapter is bent, it's very robust. Keep an eye on the oil level dipstick to monitor those seals. This newer model has a much lower oil requirement than previous models. It will seize up sooner with no oil. Here's a simple way to test for a bent crank without any special tools: ua-cam.com/video/4xqC5X8-3nc/v-deo.html Good luck.
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What Brand of Lubetciant do you use
For motor oil, I often use autoparts store brand 10W30: NAPA, AutoZone, STP.
Without prompting, the local lawn mower shop said to stay away from these Honda Commercial Mowers with the GCV-170 Engine. The Self Propelled system is exposed to the elements underneath and any mowing on wet grass spells 'Doom' for these machines. The self propelled system just stops working. Second, the self propelled cable going into the machine just fails at the connection at the body. Both are insane, one is high labor cost and the other is high parts cost. Very sad to see a full-on Honda product fail. I do not know of any engine issues but the shop was just going on and on about "Don't buy this machine," that I could not get into the ask question mode.
I agree Honda cut way too many corners on this mower. I did notice these same engines on the new HRX mowers with the composite decks. Those are still good Honda quality mowers. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady How I wish I'd known this, before I bought mine! Just had my self-propel stop working on me. It has been surging, and bogging, during mows also. What a cluster! I have babied this mower, and only used it residentially. I'd hate to be in the middle of a commercial season, with this one. I'll be replacing it, if my local service, won't fool with her. I wish anyone else luck, if they're also stuck with this model. I loved the deck, and the motor, when I got it; but wow...what a dog, in the field.
@@dongordoofthegalletas Thanks! I know some folks are very happy with theirs, but many more like you with regrets. I appreciate you watching. Cheers!
@@TheLawnmowerLady Well I sold my HRX last year for a Greenworks 60v battery mower and could not be happier. After seeing the work needed for these reminds me why I sold it. I'm so glad I just plop a battery in and go. Been 2 years now with zero problems and zero maintenance. No oil, no drive belt to mess with. Been a gas mower guy for 25 years, never through I would switch but found a good deal and thought I would try it. Held on to the Honda for awhile just in case and once I knew for sure I sold it. The Honda does hold its value pretty well when selling one.
@@Shortcuts2185 I appreciate you watching. I think this mower has an audience, but far fewer folks will be pleased in comparison to their older machines.
Less oil= more sales of replacement equipment. Ugh. Oil changes are going to be more important. The 160s and 190s were solid workhorses. Idk that the 170 will be.
I'm sure you're right Mr Tom.
LOL…..I don’t know how many times I’ve forgotten to put the fuel tap back on, and then wondered why my ‘repair’ failed…..
LOL 😹 That, and the spark plug boot! Cheers Ms Inisfad
24hr Allegra! 🤧 😆
LOL!
That oil was dirty for 5 hours
A new Briggs was 5 hour first change, 50 hours after (Honda) 25 Hours
I'm pretty sure it has more than 5 hours. How much more? Who knows?
@@TheLawnmowerLady for Warranty Purposes it ain’t Honda Oil😀😀😀
I was also surprised you could see that much metal in the oil.
I think it’s very stupid to have less oil because it’s so easy to run dry and burn up , o that’s why they did it, screw the customers
Happy they got out of it
I sort of agree, but I'm no engineer, so I figure there's a bit more to the story.
Very helpful. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the video
I appreciate you watching. Cheers!