9:20 nobody plays mortal kombat on pc, 96% of the player base is on the consoles. It takes sec just to check people who play the game on youtube or twitch. ninjakilla, sonicfox ,twenty, destroyer from the top bottom and middle it's all console people. now take something like Guilty gear from Nitro to Leffen Tyurara all on pc so yeah people say its 50/50 console but I never see the playstation icon when i play it and most people have crossplay on by default in all these games so? sf6 and gg you play on pc because it's the best least laggy way to play. But IN Mk 1 pc version is worst then both of the console version expect switch.
Yes, which is exactly why I said it's really disingenuous to use steamcharts in the conversation. Though even if we had console playerbase numbers, it still doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. People obviously still play and care about the game
mk is simply not on the level of quality of the bigest fgc games now, they continue to look and animate horrendous, mk might be out of the top 5 by now
That's an opinion you're more than welcome to have, but I don't think there's much benefit in always trying to rank and pit games against each other when we're just trying to be a community haha
@@Khalil_ its not an opinion that the animation is bad, im an animator and the animation in mk is embarrassing, and its dumb since they could easily hire good animators, no other fgc has this issue
I actually wasn't referring to the animation thing LMFAO (though honestly, I do think it's an opinion that MK overall looks bad, I think there are still plenty of people that like the way MK looks). I was actually referring to your top 5 statement, because again things like that are purely divisive
you are not considering in the whole evo player count point that strive is not a casually known game that just got a new instalment. it is many years old and has a immense player base compared to every other game on the list. it is still relevant with its age and almost every other titel on this years evo will not achieve that.
Truth be told, the fighting game community places far too much stock in EVO entrant counts in the first place. Removes a ton of nuance from the situation surrounding games. That being said, I really only went to this point because it's one that gets so commonly brought up. I think content analytics and whatnot are likely a much stronger indicator which is why I went over that last. I think even a year or 2 from now, there will still be a significant gap between SF & Tekken to the others. Though that doesn't mean strive isn't successful by any means
Guilty gear being one of the big 3 is silly lol mk lacks quality and has and also by design directly competes with street fighter meaning one will be big 3 while the other just won’t. The final of the big 3 is obviously smash. Ik everyone isn’t gonna agree but if we are talking about numbers in any metric at all platform fighters deserve probably the number one spot.
not including smashbros into this debate is kinda wack. it is the best selling fighting game franchise. even tho mk is higher but considered that it is exclusiv to nintendo and way younger it is imo the best selling one. its impact to the whole esports scene is undeniable bigger then most of the games in the marked tho it is bc of its flaws (that it is nintendo only, it is not cheap, nintendo kinda sucks compedetive wise and the history of its balancing and meta in kinda every instalation) comparably niche nowadays. I can see how ppl might despite the fact that smash bros is a fighting game bc it lands on a very unexplored subgenre but it is fundamantaly played the same.... just harder lol.
I don't believe in a Big 3 anyway! I agree if it was something that mattered, smash should be a part of the conversation. But honestly all of this is just nonsense that is rage bait LMFAO
I think smash is one of the hardest games ever at the top level and is super competitive. I’ve never see it as a fighting game though personally. I think it’s odd that this opinion is offensive to so many people.
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MK can come back to the big 3 when NRS stops making terrible MCU level story lines and have gameplay that isnt garbage.
9:20 nobody plays mortal kombat on pc, 96% of the player base is on the consoles. It takes sec just to check people who play the game on youtube or twitch. ninjakilla, sonicfox ,twenty, destroyer from the top bottom and middle it's all console people. now take something like Guilty gear from Nitro to Leffen Tyurara all on pc so yeah people say its 50/50 console but I never see the playstation icon when i play it and most people have crossplay on by default in all these games so? sf6 and gg you play on pc because it's the best least laggy way to play. But IN Mk 1 pc version is worst then both of the console version expect switch.
Yes, which is exactly why I said it's really disingenuous to use steamcharts in the conversation. Though even if we had console playerbase numbers, it still doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. People obviously still play and care about the game
mk is simply not on the level of quality of the bigest fgc games now, they continue to look and animate horrendous, mk might be out of the top 5 by now
That's an opinion you're more than welcome to have, but I don't think there's much benefit in always trying to rank and pit games against each other when we're just trying to be a community haha
@@Khalil_ its not an opinion that the animation is bad, im an animator and the animation in mk is embarrassing, and its dumb since they could easily hire good animators, no other fgc has this issue
@@yurazah everything you just said was quite literally an opinion
I actually wasn't referring to the animation thing LMFAO (though honestly, I do think it's an opinion that MK overall looks bad, I think there are still plenty of people that like the way MK looks). I was actually referring to your top 5 statement, because again things like that are purely divisive
Get MK tf outta here till further notice
mk buy far has the best story mode of any current fighting game wich matters alot to the casual players
It certainly does matter! That being said, I don't think any casuals care about this "Big 3" nonsense LMFAO
you are not considering in the whole evo player count point that strive is not a casually known game that just got a new instalment. it is many years old and has a immense player base compared to every other game on the list. it is still relevant with its age and almost every other titel on this years evo will not achieve that.
Truth be told, the fighting game community places far too much stock in EVO entrant counts in the first place. Removes a ton of nuance from the situation surrounding games. That being said, I really only went to this point because it's one that gets so commonly brought up. I think content analytics and whatnot are likely a much stronger indicator which is why I went over that last. I think even a year or 2 from now, there will still be a significant gap between SF & Tekken to the others. Though that doesn't mean strive isn't successful by any means
Guilty gear being one of the big 3 is silly lol mk lacks quality and has and also by design directly competes with street fighter meaning one will be big 3 while the other just won’t. The final of the big 3 is obviously smash. Ik everyone isn’t gonna agree but if we are talking about numbers in any metric at all platform fighters deserve probably the number one spot.
not including smashbros into this debate is kinda wack. it is the best selling fighting game franchise. even tho mk is higher but considered that it is exclusiv to nintendo and way younger it is imo the best selling one. its impact to the whole esports scene is undeniable bigger then most of the games in the marked tho it is bc of its flaws (that it is nintendo only, it is not cheap, nintendo kinda sucks compedetive wise and the history of its balancing and meta in kinda every instalation) comparably niche nowadays. I can see how ppl might despite the fact that smash bros is a fighting game bc it lands on a very unexplored subgenre but it is fundamantaly played the same.... just harder lol.
I don't believe in a Big 3 anyway! I agree if it was something that mattered, smash should be a part of the conversation. But honestly all of this is just nonsense that is rage bait LMFAO
Its exclusivity to Nintendo is why it’s not taken for consideration. The other 3 are competing on the latest gen gaming platforms
I think smash is one of the hardest games ever at the top level and is super competitive. I’ve never see it as a fighting game though personally. I think it’s odd that this opinion is offensive to so many people.
@@duatchol7710 fair point but more ppl played smash so... idk man