The players have spoke . Most players have Kobe definitely in there top 5 and a lot have him in the top 3. But y'all be having Kobe outside the top 5 is actually crazy
Kobe is the most skilled player I've ever seen. For me it's MJ and Kobe then everyone else. Lebron is a stat monster but I'm not going to say the guy w the best stats is in goat talk. Karl Malone had more points than MJ bit noone ever said Malone>mj
Bruh to play nba basketball in those days all you had to do is be physical and be able to shoot the basketball somewhat good. Mike shot very good that’s what separated him from the rest. Let’s see from 1 to 10 Passing 3 dribble 3 jumping 10 mid range 9 physical 6 heart 10. Speed 7 or 8.. those can be debatable somewhat. Now Kobe better shooter not a high jumper speed about the same physical about the same three pointer with the line moved back 2 ft better Clutch Kobe slight edge if not the same. But skill Kobe is off the meters . Kobe is the overlooked way to much. Oh and Kobe defended guards way better than what Mike faced. And played against more skilled players than Mike has seen. Physical is FOULS in this game punching and hacking don’t count
STEVEN A. IS A TOTAL IDIOT WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTYPE OF ATTILETE HE IS THAT PERSON THAT EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO EVERYBODY IS BETTER THAN LEBRON JAMES.
Kobe for sure is a top 3 player all time. For me personally I have him as #2 behind MJ. I don’t get how these analyst can say he’s the closest thing to MJ that anyone’s ever seen then rank him outside of the top 5 or even 10, it’s crazy.
In my opinion and i watched ton of NBA there are 3 ultimate cut throats on 1, 2, 3, all time Airness, Kob, Larry Legend, not only they were fenomenal, but stories from players who played with them and against them are in league of its own.
Personally I think they're paid to push whoever the main guy is, Lebron in this case, and speak about him like he's God in human form. Otherwise it doesn't make sense at all. Regarding Kobe in particular, it unfortunately has something to do with that Colorado stuff
@@avace917 Nah Lebron, Westbrook, James Harden, Durant, are a part of 3point revolution era, all of them are chasing stats, only one of that generation that actually plays for sake of playing is Steph Curry, other then that Lebron when you look longevity will have all stats across the board, but... that dont make him best at least not in my opinion, MJ is G.O.A.T. because even if you look stats MJ got it, other then stats if you go by what you see on the basketball court, 1, 2, 3, ... Airness, Kob, Larry Legend to me Lebron cant squeez in top 5, Magic and Shaq are far more impactfull and relevant.
@@RealisticAndTrue I'm not talking about their actual skill set. Just the media coverage. They've literally been riding this dude since the beginning. Just the fact that the lady interviewing AI (can't remember her name) threw in LeBron when he said he has Mike at 1 and Kobe at 2 on the GOAT list says to me that there's an agenda. It's like they HAVE to say he's either number one or two and it's sickening.
Stephen A told about Kobe's and LeBron's numbers? Really?) We talk about greatness or about stats? We talk about era with handcheck and with 90 average points for team in game or about era with superteams and 110 points per game with no defense?) We talk about guy from whom rejected trade cp3 by NBA or about guy Who joined dwade and kyrie for another chip? We talk about man that lost All finals by himself or about guy that always didnt has enough help? One of this guy should not be in conversation. Cmon. Stop it.
It's kinda telling that players overwhelmingly say It's Kobe over LeBron, and the talking heads say it's LeBron over Kobe. It's as if getting paid to hold an opinion is the deciding factor here.
2008 team usa Olympics needed kobe to win gold back. since lebron duncan wade etc couldn’t bring home the gold previous Olympics. jus saying. then 2013 all star. kobe wanted smoke with lebron. he want to guard the best player in the east. lebron choked and got blocked twice and wasn’t clutch end of 4th quarter. melo and kobe laughed/disappointed last mins. lebron supposed to take the last shot and he pass the ball instead.
I think you’re only listening to these media puppets. Listen to what players who have played against/with Kobe and even those who played against Lebron and let’s see if only Shaq and AI got Kobe up at no. 2
Steven A please fall back MJ #1 Kobe #2 Magic #3 Lebron #4, who Lebron won with clown, players told you who the best bruh, please stop..................
@@punisher_004 lol what? So anyone that doesn't have LeBron in the top 5 is a LeBron hater? You know how dumb that sounds. I guess I'm also also hating on other greats like Wilt, Bill Russell, Hakeem, Duncan, etc, that I kept out of the top five. But you must only care about LeBron , not those other players like every other clueless LeBron fan.
@@chrisb5000 Yep cos its impossible not to have him in the top 5. There is no NBA player ever that has done what hes doing right now!!!! Pass first guy thats leading scorer of all time. Is in top 10 is most statistical categories. Won titles with 3 diff franchises and been to finals 10 times. Been the best player in his team for those winnings. Kobe wasnt... he had Shaq.
Steven A Smith sounds like a dummy. Does anyone have Shaq in the top 5 of all times? Kareem and Magic are both in the top 5 of all times. So is Magic not a top 5 player? Is Kareem not a top 5 player? Like I said SAS sounds like a dummy. In 2010 SAS said Kobe was in the top 5.
Kobe was unguardable his skill level and clutch shooting is second to non...if you had to make a life or death shot who would you want to take that shot...like i said most skilled player i got Kobe all day long...it surely won't be LeBron
There's a big difference between the greatest and the best. Best is one's personal ability to play. Greatness is how you translate that ability to winning. Kobe is definitely top 3 in terms of ability to play the game but he falls down on the list a bit in terms of greatness. That's why players have Kobe really high on their list because Kobe's ability to play is something they actually felt firsthand. Critics can never assess that as clear as players do. Meanwhile greatness can be shown through stats and that's why critics leans more on that. They can only say something on what they see on paper and watching the game but watching someone play is completely different than play against the said guy.
i mean kobe and shaq had a 3 peat only the greatest players did it steph and the warriors didnt even do it and lebron got whooped by the warriors multiple times lebron cant handle small guards and hes not an all around player kobe and jordan were and they both 3 peated becoming part the only 5 to 6 teams to do it
Why is Kobe not the second greatest of all time. He has 5 championships more defensive all NBA teams and he played less years. LeBron needed to win his first 2 with wade and bosh! Need Kyrie and love to win in Cleveland! Then he needed Anthony Davis to win to this last one! Kobe played with two Hall of famers Shaq and Paul. I almost forgot LeBron played with Ray Allen too! LeBron played with 6 hall of famers to Kobe's 2! Kobe stayed where he was drafted and won 5 LeBron played for 4 different teams yeah he played for Cleveland twice but four team and 6 Hof players. Kobe is next in line after Jordan in of debate!!!
Unfortunately both steven and shaq have nothing to do about it. They are called in the office and they tell whos nr 1, nr 2 etc. They are the voice of the shadow. Even Adam has nothing to do about it even he is 1 step closer to the shadow. All of them are just instruments. It all just a fake! And us, watchers are just hyped up!
LBJ played what 5 seasons more than the rest, jumped teams 3 or 4 times more than the rest and lost finals more and won less rings. Played longer yet acheived less. LBJ isnt even in the top 5. I take prime Curry over prime LBJ every day of the week. MJ for goat, Kobe arguably no2
@@life0093 Lakers haven't played Warriors this regular season, and 35 year old Curry in the current season is averaging more than Lebron. what you smoking
@@life0093 when you say Just beat them? the NBA finals was played June 2023 thiats over 7 months ago...just beat them? are you drunk. We are in an entire different and new season where lakers are under 500, they are losers lead by Lebron. what you smoking?
I don't have any problem with people putting Kobe #2, he's deserving....But here's a few things to consider.. He was never the 2nd best player until after he passed away.. So he passed tragically now everyone feels guilty, they're putting him 2. Shaq never had Kobe #2, and many of these players didn't have Kobe at 2# when he retired...They didn't even have him as the greatest Laker ever. Now it's a trend and everyone's pitting him against Lebron ignoring statistics, wins, and actual head to head meetings, these were things that were used to measure Russel and Wilt, Magic and Bird, but since it's Kobe /Lebron we ignore all those things and now it's "our eye test", "most skilled"...These people can't pick a lane to stay in. I don't actually like Stephen A Smith, but I would have called Shaq out because back in 2018 if I recall Shaq didn't have Kobe in his top 5 on NBA TNT..Neither did Barkley, Kenny Smith, then he passes away and he can't be better than Jordan, so he's gotta be #2 pathetic... All you guys with your optics why don't you just put him number 1? He destroyed Jordan in his last year as a Wizard and put up 55 on him, Jordan got dusted, that was game that made him never to come back..He put up 33 on Jordan in just his second year in the league in 97, Kobe had a 5-3 head to head winning advantage against Jordan also..Why don't we just put him #1? Jordan couldn't stop him... Kobe won 1 MVP, shot 44% the Mamba doesn't hold any known NBA records that I can think of
I swear cause he LITERALLY went at AI for saying he has Kobe number 2 but soon as Rashad came at him now he wants to bring up the whole opinion BS like no you deserve to be checked on that note AI played against all 3 I’ll take his word over Steven FOH Kobe is number 2 anybody that know know that the media does stuff for RATINGS let’s be REAL no player that has 6 losses losing more than won on his resume is top 5 number 2 miss me with that shit.
H'e's #2, take sub out Kobe for Lebron in those ( after Shaq) championships and they don't win those titles. If they make the playoffs they're done in the first round
No, most people didnt have bryant top 3. Thats a joke. Stop. We get it hes dead you're sad but it doesn't make him gain spots on the list because hes dead
@@ImNelzy stop, hes dead. We get it. There is NOTHING about bryants career says top 5 much less higher. If you dont know basketball its ok but dont just throw out some dumb s#it you dont know about.
@@jonnyblayze5149 when he was alive he got love, he’s getting hate since he passed. I know more basketball than you BELIEVE THAT. He was never in top 3 or top 5? You forgetting when people were calling him the best player in the world at the time? Redeem team documentary showed all those clips. Most players have Kobe in their top 3 top 5. You wanna debate this Kobe thing we can. I got things to back it up. Kobe ain’t even my favorite player either.
LeBron has a way better defense than Kobe and MJ and way better passing and anything but scoring but Lebron just good at everything something Kobe wasn't. Or MJ in that matter. Lebron the Goat.
It doesn’t matter if Kobe had his first 3 chips with Shaq. Shaq is not a better basketball player than Kobe and Kobe won more than him when they weren’t together. Shaq needed Kobe more than Kobe needed Shaq. This is not even a debate.
Its the repsect MJ had for Kobe. Mj watched him from his first year and I think he realized he was passed. And I think he respected kobe more bc he aint stop, he saw that kobe wanted smoke with everybody. And MJ saw the talent get better and kobe was still beating the new talent. I aint afraid to move someone. Kob got that top spot to me.
When you have Lebron as #2 and CP3 as a Point Gawd, you lose all credibility. I'm sorry SAS is nonsense. Losers don't get to re write history. Lebron is not even in the top 5 .
Stephen A needs to change what he’s Smoking. I would take Kobe over La flopper all day long. Kobe had the KILLER instinct like MJ. If I’m wanting someone to take over a game and take the last shot. There is no doubt it ain’t La flopper. It’s MJ or Kobe! PERIOD. Goat sequence MJ , KOBE and after that you can pick you ever you want!
Didn’t MJ need Scottie Pippen like Kobe needed Shaq? This is why great players speak from experience and mediocre players make great sports analysts. Great players spit truth bcuz they been there, sports analysts spit data. I roll with analysis of great players. MJ, Kobe and everybody else with Dr J in the top 10. Deal with it great analyst, but mediocre bball player Stephen A. Deal with it.
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“Except for Ai and Shaq…” You need to do more research before you go on spewing some nonsense, your ball your knowledge is obviously lacking. Multiple players including KD, PG, Dirk, J Crossover, Tmac, Kawhi, Barnes have Kobe right next to Mike. And the list goes on. Stick to soccer.
I have Kobe around #10 on my list. Like Michael, Kobe chased players away because they were such a$$$$$$s to their teammates. Michael only started winning when he trusted Pippen enough to let him be the players' leader. Too often, people make the mistake of thinking the best player is, or must be, the team's leader. Michael was not the Bulls' leader. Michael also got lucky with Phil Jackson arriving and being able to handle the personalities. Kobe, on the other hand, fought with Shaq as they fractured the Laker's locker room. He also ejected Jackson. Yes, Kobe had horrible teams between the Lakers' finals appearances. But that was entirely *his* fault. After their championship repeat, he went back to being a horrible teammate, and never got close again.
@@CJthegreat-ox1mh He scored 81 points in the game . 55points in a half and one time against the Mavericks in 3 quarters he scored 62pts and sat the whole 4th quarter he's the best offensive player the NBA has ever had. Y'all don't know basketball obviously top 10 is insulting the least top three but I haven't seen nobody is gifted as him
@@anthonymartinez4660 "best offensive player the NBA has ever seen" and yet he's the all time leader in missed shots and 5th all time in turnovers. Yeah he's the best all right.😂😂😂
He’s mistaken? Really shaq? A guy who played it’s him and saw it first hand? So every other player who played during that era with or against him that have him in their top 3 is also wrong? No wonder you replied to my comment you’re just a hater
@@ImNelzy dont be stupid. We saw them all play as much as they saw each other. If you can read youd see bryants resume isnt good enough to be included in the top 3 conversation. We get it hes dead , you're sad. It doesnt mean he can just be elevated in spots because you cant stop crying kid.
@@ImNelzy telling you the truth, a truth we can ALL LOOK UP AND PLAINLY SEE, is in no way being " a hater" you just sound buthurt and defeated. Quit crying hes barely top ten BARELY. Game over kid.
@@jonnyblayze5149 I’m not a kid, you say we can look it up and yet all you’ve provided is “most missed shots” only butt hurt person here is you. I can tell you’re a lebron crony and are hurt people are pushing back Lebron and having Kobe up there. Take the L learn to educate yourself on ball, do your own research instead of listening to media which is all about selling a narrative, bum
Your not wrong here... these is a long list of All Stars that LBJ has now played with and if he doesn't have them, he simply goes somewhere else or demands that team sell the farm to do so 👍
Why would you take this guy seriously 😂. We all have eyes. Like what A.I. said 1. MJ 2.Kobe 3. Everybody else.
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The players have spoke . Most players have Kobe definitely in there top 5 and a lot have him in the top 3. But y'all be having Kobe outside the top 5 is actually crazy
FYI Kobe isn't in my top 5...
@@sports360media that's ok I'll take the player's opinion over yours all day
That fair enough mate, it's just an opinion 👍👍
Kobe is the most skilled player I've ever seen. For me it's MJ and Kobe then everyone else. Lebron is a stat monster but I'm not going to say the guy w the best stats is in goat talk. Karl Malone had more points than MJ bit noone ever said Malone>mj
Agree with you re LBJ 👍
Bruh to play nba basketball in those days all you had to do is be physical and be able to shoot the basketball somewhat good. Mike shot very good that’s what separated him from the rest. Let’s see from 1 to 10 Passing 3 dribble 3 jumping 10 mid range 9 physical 6 heart 10. Speed 7 or 8.. those can be debatable somewhat. Now Kobe better shooter not a high jumper speed about the same physical about the same three pointer with the line moved back 2 ft better Clutch Kobe slight edge if not the same. But skill Kobe is off the meters . Kobe is the overlooked way to much. Oh and Kobe defended guards way better than what Mike faced. And played against more skilled players than Mike has seen. Physical is FOULS in this game punching and hacking don’t count
STEVEN A. IS A TOTAL IDIOT WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTYPE OF ATTILETE HE IS THAT PERSON THAT EVERYONE SHOULD LISTEN TO EVERYBODY IS BETTER THAN LEBRON JAMES.
Kobe for sure is a top 3 player all time. For me personally I have him as #2 behind MJ. I don’t get how these analyst can say he’s the closest thing to MJ that anyone’s ever seen then rank him outside of the top 5 or even 10, it’s crazy.
In my opinion and i watched ton of NBA there are 3 ultimate cut throats on 1, 2, 3, all time Airness, Kob, Larry Legend, not only they were fenomenal, but stories from players who played with them and against them are in league of its own.
Thanks for watching guys 👍
Personally I think they're paid to push whoever the main guy is, Lebron in this case, and speak about him like he's God in human form. Otherwise it doesn't make sense at all. Regarding Kobe in particular, it unfortunately has something to do with that Colorado stuff
@@avace917 Nah Lebron, Westbrook, James Harden, Durant, are a part of 3point revolution era, all of them are chasing stats, only one of that generation that actually plays for sake of playing is Steph Curry, other then that Lebron when you look longevity will have all stats across the board, but... that dont make him best at least not in my opinion, MJ is G.O.A.T. because even if you look stats MJ got it, other then stats if you go by what you see on the basketball court, 1, 2, 3, ... Airness, Kob, Larry Legend to me Lebron cant squeez in top 5, Magic and Shaq are far more impactfull and relevant.
@@RealisticAndTrue I'm not talking about their actual skill set. Just the media coverage. They've literally been riding this dude since the beginning. Just the fact that the lady interviewing AI (can't remember her name) threw in LeBron when he said he has Mike at 1 and Kobe at 2 on the GOAT list says to me that there's an agenda. It's like they HAVE to say he's either number one or two and it's sickening.
Nobody In they right mind would pick LeBron over Kobe 😂😂
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If the game was on the line and your life was at stake, would you risk it with LBJ over Kobe? Nope.
Smith is a talker not a walker
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The most skillfully unguardable player of all time they always say. Well that makes him the Goat .
Who MJ 😎
Stephen A told about Kobe's and LeBron's numbers? Really?) We talk about greatness or about stats? We talk about era with handcheck and with 90 average points for team in game or about era with superteams and 110 points per game with no defense?) We talk about guy from whom rejected trade cp3 by NBA or about guy Who joined dwade and kyrie for another chip? We talk about man that lost All finals by himself or about guy that always didnt has enough help?
One of this guy should not be in conversation. Cmon. Stop it.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment in such detail mate 👍
Shaq is such a great guy. I'm racist af but I love Shaq. What a legend.
Wait, what...
Shaq is a legend
It's kinda telling that players overwhelmingly say It's Kobe over LeBron, and the talking heads say it's LeBron over Kobe. It's as if getting paid to hold an opinion is the deciding factor here.
It's been that way since LBJ came into the league. No one realized it. I picked up on it immediately
Yep, There has been an LBJ love affair since high school
1. Kobe Bryant.
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Michael Jordan And Kobe Bryant.
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Kobe is my number 1
Fair enough mate 👍
Kobe is most definitely number 2 of all time 💯💯💯 most the greats who played against have stated the analyst never had to play against either 😅🍻🤙🏾
Not for mate, FYI not in my top 5
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😯.... fair enough mate 👍
His first rings came with Shaq but Shaq ain't even top five and sometimes top ten on some peoples list but Kobe isn't second cause he played with shaq
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MJ’s rings came with Pippen and he’s not top 20. Lebrons rings came with Wade and he’s not top 20. What is your point?
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2008 team usa Olympics needed kobe to win gold back. since lebron duncan wade etc couldn’t bring home the gold previous Olympics. jus saying. then 2013 all star. kobe wanted smoke with lebron. he want to guard the best player in the east. lebron choked and got blocked twice and wasn’t clutch end of 4th quarter. melo and kobe laughed/disappointed last mins. lebron supposed to take the last shot and he pass the ball instead.
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I think you’re only listening to these media puppets. Listen to what players who have played against/with Kobe and even those who played against Lebron and let’s see if only Shaq and AI got Kobe up at no. 2
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Steven A please fall back MJ #1 Kobe #2 Magic #3 Lebron #4, who Lebron won with clown, players told you who the best bruh, please stop..................
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My G.O.A.T. ORDER IS LEBRON ,KOBE, THEN MIKE
THEN MIKE....... 😯🤔
DIDNT THE ANSWER EMBARRASS ALL OF THEM!!
AI was so good 👍 👍
Lebron never won a slam dunk contest because he was scared to face challenges or competition
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Jordan, Kobe, Kareem, Bird, Magic, then the rest
Where is Lebron......u actually Lebron hater.
@@punisher_004 lol what? So anyone that doesn't have LeBron in the top 5 is a LeBron hater? You know how dumb that sounds. I guess I'm also also hating on other greats like Wilt, Bill Russell, Hakeem, Duncan, etc, that I kept out of the top five.
But you must only care about LeBron , not those other players like every other clueless LeBron fan.
BWAHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA good joke kid
@@chrisb5000 Yep cos its impossible not to have him in the top 5. There is no NBA player ever that has done what hes doing right now!!!! Pass first guy thats leading scorer of all time. Is in top 10 is most statistical categories. Won titles with 3 diff franchises and been to finals 10 times. Been the best player in his team for those winnings. Kobe wasnt...
he had Shaq.
@@chrisb5000 even duncan, hakeem, bill and wilt wouldnt put themselves ahead of Lebron. Only Jordan Kobe and Kareem would.
I would trust Shaq a guy who played with Bron, Kobe, and played against MJ. I wouldn't trust Smith with anything at all.
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You’re absolutely right. Definitely no debating in that.
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All the pros choose Kobe over LBj. AI is right. 8/24&23(mj) then everyone else
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Steven A Smith sounds like a dummy. Does anyone have Shaq in the top 5 of all times? Kareem and Magic are both in the top 5 of all times. So is Magic not a top 5 player? Is Kareem not a top 5 player? Like I said SAS sounds like a dummy. In 2010 SAS said Kobe was in the top 5.
For me Shaq and Kobe are not in my top 5 👍
Lmao he is in fact top 2
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Kobe was unguardable his skill level and clutch shooting is second to non...if you had to make a life or death shot who would you want to take that shot...like i said most skilled player i got Kobe all day long...it surely won't be LeBron
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Kobe is top 5 MJ is definitely 1 Lebron 2 and from there maybe Kobe 3 or majic or even Kareem
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Quick question, are you a Lakers fan?
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There's a big difference between the greatest and the best. Best is one's personal ability to play. Greatness is how you translate that ability to winning. Kobe is definitely top 3 in terms of ability to play the game but he falls down on the list a bit in terms of greatness. That's why players have Kobe really high on their list because Kobe's ability to play is something they actually felt firsthand. Critics can never assess that as clear as players do. Meanwhile greatness can be shown through stats and that's why critics leans more on that. They can only say something on what they see on paper and watching the game but watching someone play is completely different than play against the said guy.
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So who’s your top 5 if someone who went 5-2 in post 80s basketball falls short in terms of winning ability 🤔
i mean kobe and shaq had a 3 peat only the greatest players did it steph and the warriors didnt even do it and lebron got whooped by the warriors multiple times lebron cant handle small guards and hes not an all around player kobe and jordan were and they both 3 peated becoming part the only 5 to 6 teams to do it
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Me personally I think Kobe will be 5th behind Steph and KD
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So you have MJ, LBJ, Curry, KD then Kobe?
LBJ MJ Curry,KD Kobe@@sports360media
Oh OK, cheers mate 👍
Why is Kobe not the second greatest of all time. He has 5 championships more defensive all NBA teams and he played less years. LeBron needed to win his first 2 with wade and bosh! Need Kyrie and love to win in Cleveland! Then he needed Anthony Davis to win to this last one! Kobe played with two Hall of famers Shaq and Paul. I almost forgot LeBron played with Ray Allen too! LeBron played with 6 hall of famers to Kobe's 2! Kobe stayed where he was drafted and won 5 LeBron played for 4 different teams yeah he played for Cleveland twice but four team and 6 Hof players. Kobe is next in line after Jordan in of debate!!!
Unfortunately both steven and shaq have nothing to do about it. They are called in the office and they tell whos nr 1, nr 2 etc. They are the voice of the shadow. Even Adam has nothing to do about it even he is 1 step closer to the shadow. All of them are just instruments. It all just a fake! And us, watchers are just hyped up!
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it could be the other way around too. can shaq win those 3 rings with kobe? i mean he didn’t win a ring with penny hardaway. jus saying.
Maybe
LBJ played what 5 seasons more than the rest, jumped teams 3 or 4 times more than the rest and lost finals more and won less rings. Played longer yet acheived less. LBJ isnt even in the top 5. I take prime Curry over prime LBJ every day of the week. MJ for goat, Kobe arguably no2
Prime Curry just lost to 38 year old LeBron
@@life0093 Lakers haven't played Warriors this regular season, and 35 year old Curry in the current season is averaging more than Lebron. what you smoking
They Just beat them in the playoffs. And yeah, he’s averaging more than LeBron. 2 points more. Oooh.
@@life0093 when you say Just beat them? the NBA finals was played June 2023 thiats over 7 months ago...just beat them? are you drunk. We are in an entire different and new season where lakers are under 500, they are losers lead by Lebron. what you smoking?
@@travistravis7190 The Warriors are under .500 too. They're losers led by Steph
I don't have any problem with people putting Kobe #2, he's deserving....But here's a few things to consider..
He was never the 2nd best player until after he passed away.. So he passed tragically now everyone feels guilty, they're putting him 2. Shaq never had Kobe #2, and many of these players didn't have Kobe at 2# when he retired...They didn't even have him as the greatest Laker ever. Now it's a trend and everyone's pitting him against Lebron ignoring statistics, wins, and actual head to head meetings, these were things that were used to measure Russel and Wilt, Magic and Bird, but since it's Kobe /Lebron we ignore all those things and now it's "our eye test", "most skilled"...These people can't pick a lane to stay in. I don't actually like Stephen A Smith, but I would have called Shaq out because back in 2018 if I recall Shaq didn't have Kobe in his top 5 on NBA TNT..Neither did Barkley, Kenny Smith, then he passes away and he can't be better than Jordan, so he's gotta be #2 pathetic...
All you guys with your optics why don't you just put him number 1? He destroyed Jordan in his last year as a Wizard and put up 55 on him, Jordan got dusted, that was game that made him never to come back..He put up 33 on Jordan in just his second year in the league in 97, Kobe had a 5-3 head to head winning advantage against Jordan also..Why don't we just put him #1? Jordan couldn't stop him...
Kobe won 1 MVP, shot 44% the Mamba doesn't hold any known NBA records that I can think of
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment in such detail, some great points mate 👍
@@sports360media Great video, my pleasure
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Stephen A is hilarious. He says all sort of shit just to gain attention.
I swear cause he LITERALLY went at AI for saying he has Kobe number 2 but soon as Rashad came at him now he wants to bring up the whole opinion BS like no you deserve to be checked on that note AI played against all 3 I’ll take his word over Steven FOH Kobe is number 2 anybody that know know that the media does stuff for RATINGS let’s be REAL no player that has 6 losses losing more than won on his resume is top 5 number 2 miss me with that shit.
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So annoying…
H'e's #2, take sub out Kobe for Lebron in those ( after Shaq) championships and they don't win those titles. If they make the playoffs they're done in the first round
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Nah most people had Kobe in top 3 before the media started going off on him since his passing. I still have Kobe 3rd
No, most people didnt have bryant top 3. Thats a joke. Stop. We get it hes dead you're sad but it doesn't make him gain spots on the list because hes dead
@@jonnyblayze5149 nah most people definitely had him top 3 and top 5. It’s only recently people sayings he’s only top 10.
@@ImNelzy stop, hes dead. We get it. There is NOTHING about bryants career says top 5 much less higher. If you dont know basketball its ok but dont just throw out some dumb s#it you dont know about.
@@jonnyblayze5149 when he was alive he got love, he’s getting hate since he passed. I know more basketball than you BELIEVE THAT. He was never in top 3 or top 5? You forgetting when people were calling him the best player in the world at the time? Redeem team documentary showed all those clips. Most players have Kobe in their top 3 top 5. You wanna debate this Kobe thing we can. I got things to back it up. Kobe ain’t even my favorite player either.
@@ImNelzy no you dont. Because there is nothing to "back up" your dumb little bulls#it. Learn the game kid
the wins were above lebron the defense was above lebrons the winner mentality and killer instinct was above lepass
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LeBron has a way better defense than Kobe and MJ and way better passing and anything but scoring but Lebron just good at everything something Kobe wasn't. Or MJ in that matter. Lebron the Goat.
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Everyone knows Kobe is three or four in the G.O.A.T. debate:
1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Shaq or Kobe
4. Shaq or Kobe
Lebrons defence fell off a cliff and he’s been load managing for years. That to me knocks him down couple spots.
Agreed, he hasn't played defence for the longest time 👍
This funny Kobe is definitely number 2😮
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Ok SAS Lebron play with Wade Bosh Ray Allen Irving Love AD Rondo Howard. And kobe still won without Shaq back to back and without a top 75 player
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LBJ has a long list of all stars that he has been team mate with!
I have him #1 , LAL fuck the rest!
Fuck the rest 🤣🤣🤣
It doesn’t matter if Kobe had his first 3 chips with Shaq. Shaq is not a better basketball player than Kobe and Kobe won more than him when they weren’t together. Shaq needed Kobe more than Kobe needed Shaq. This is not even a debate.
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how can anyone ever take steven a seriously. does he think shouting makes him believable? opposite
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I like jobe may he rip but its clearly bron
Well I like Kobe, I don't know who jobe is but I like Kobe.
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Its the repsect MJ had for Kobe. Mj watched him from his first year and I think he realized he was passed. And I think he respected kobe more bc he aint stop, he saw that kobe wanted smoke with everybody. And MJ saw the talent get better and kobe was still beating the new talent. I aint afraid to move someone. Kob got that top spot to me.
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Kobe is my GOAT and most NBA players have him 2nd to MJ
Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
When you have Lebron as #2 and CP3 as a Point Gawd, you lose all credibility. I'm sorry SAS is nonsense. Losers don't get to re write history. Lebron is not even in the top 5 .
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I have Kobe 3rd
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Nah, Kobe is #1
Really? I honestly didn't think that people would have him #1... fair enough if he's your pick to be 🐐 👍
BWAHHHHHH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! good joke kid!
Stephen A needs to change what he’s Smoking. I would take Kobe over La flopper all day long. Kobe had the KILLER instinct like MJ. If I’m wanting someone to take over a game and take the last shot. There is no doubt it ain’t La flopper. It’s MJ or Kobe! PERIOD. Goat sequence MJ , KOBE and after that you can pick you ever you want!
Didn’t MJ need Scottie Pippen like Kobe needed Shaq? This is why great players speak from experience and mediocre players make great sports analysts. Great players spit truth bcuz they been there, sports analysts spit data. I roll with analysis of great players. MJ, Kobe and everybody else with Dr J in the top 10. Deal with it great analyst, but mediocre bball player Stephen A. Deal with it.
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“Except for Ai and Shaq…” You need to do more research before you go on spewing some nonsense, your ball your knowledge is obviously lacking. Multiple players including KD, PG, Dirk, J Crossover, Tmac, Kawhi, Barnes have Kobe right next to Mike. And the list goes on. Stick to soccer.
Thanks for watching this vid all the way to the end, so you can point this out and suggest that I stick to ⚽️ cheers 🍻
@@sports360media My apologies mate perhaps I was a bit too harsh. Keep up the good work bro you have my sub 💯
Cheers mate, I appreciate it👍
Whr does Steven a smith rank?? 😂😂😂😂
Kobe is barley top 10 lol
We all know Kobe is 2.after Jordan
NEITHER IZ CORRECT!!
FYI, Kobe isn't in my top 5 and if you don't have MJ one... sorry we can't be friends 🤣
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I have Kobe around #10 on my list. Like Michael, Kobe chased players away because they were such a$$$$$$s to their teammates. Michael only started winning when he trusted Pippen enough to let him be the players' leader. Too often, people make the mistake of thinking the best player is, or must be, the team's leader. Michael was not the Bulls' leader. Michael also got lucky with Phil Jackson arriving and being able to handle the personalities. Kobe, on the other hand, fought with Shaq as they fractured the Laker's locker room. He also ejected Jackson. Yes, Kobe had horrible teams between the Lakers' finals appearances. But that was entirely *his* fault. After their championship repeat, he went back to being a horrible teammate, and never got close again.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment in such detail mate .. you talk a lot of sense here 👍
@@sports360media Thanks. My favorite response in discussions is, "That makes sense." 🙏
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Kobe closer to being out the top 10 then being in a realistic GOAT conversation lets be real, honest and take away emotional sentiment
That's the problem with Kobe fans, they rank him emotionally instead of logically. It's a question if he's top 10 not the goat
Thanks for watching guys!! I agree with you both on this one 👍
Bullshit what fucken sport have you been watching. Not Net Basketball.
@@CJthegreat-ox1mh He scored 81 points in the game . 55points in a half and one time against the Mavericks in 3 quarters he scored 62pts and sat the whole 4th quarter he's the best offensive player the NBA has ever had. Y'all don't know basketball obviously top 10 is insulting the least top three but I haven't seen nobody is gifted as him
@@anthonymartinez4660 "best offensive player the NBA has ever seen" and yet he's the all time leader in missed shots and 5th all time in turnovers. Yeah he's the best all right.😂😂😂
Yeah love you shaq, but you're pretty mistaken on this
He’s mistaken? Really shaq? A guy who played it’s him and saw it first hand? So every other player who played during that era with or against him that have him in their top 3 is also wrong? No wonder you replied to my comment you’re just a hater
@@ImNelzy dont be stupid. We saw them all play as much as they saw each other. If you can read youd see bryants resume isnt good enough to be included in the top 3 conversation. We get it hes dead , you're sad. It doesnt mean he can just be elevated in spots because you cant stop crying kid.
@@ImNelzy telling you the truth, a truth we can ALL LOOK UP AND PLAINLY SEE, is in no way being " a hater" you just sound buthurt and defeated. Quit crying hes barely top ten BARELY. Game over kid.
Thanks for watching guys!!
@@jonnyblayze5149 I’m not a kid, you say we can look it up and yet all you’ve provided is “most missed shots” only butt hurt person here is you. I can tell you’re a lebron crony and are hurt people are pushing back Lebron and having Kobe up there. Take the L learn to educate yourself on ball, do your own research instead of listening to media which is all about selling a narrative, bum
LeBron had superteams
Your not wrong here... these is a long list of All Stars that LBJ has now played with and if he doesn't have them, he simply goes somewhere else or demands that team sell the farm to do so 👍