Asking Over 100 NBA Players Who The REAL GOAT Is
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“untouchable, unattainable, immortal status. the man retired from the NBA decades ago yet it still remains, Michel Jordan. and THEN everyone else” jimmy never disappoints with the closers
So true always love the dramatic closers
Bro skipped to the end of the video 😭
Nah Bron is the goat idgaf what anybody says.
@@beestboy2001 autism has bot cure huh
@@beestboy2001 and anybody else doesn't care either hahaha
Jimmy: "It might not be what you expected"
It: *exactly what I expected*
I was worried there for a second
@@VAKZ23 Me too 😭
i thought it was gon be wilt
it's unexpected in terms of disparity, i thought it's neck and neck
Pretty much exactly what I expected. I thought it was gonna be 1. MJ 2. Lebron 3. Kareem 4. Kobe 5. Wilt
And I wasn't far off...
I think it's also worth noting that the players who played against/with MJ and chose Lebron as their GOAT consisted of only 3 players: Bill Laimbeer, Isiah Thomas, and Scottie Pippen. All of these 3 have noted their personal grudges against Michael Jordan. Obviously, I love these players and they are all all-time greats, but that's pretty interesting that the only 3 players to have witnessed Jordan live and voted against him also have personal reasons to dislike him.
Karl malone and Gary payton said LeBron also and John salley and Dennis Rodman actually said pippen was the most talented player ever some people really just think that especially guys from the 80's or the generation before Jordan all say LeBron I notice that also
@@sylviaadkins6208Jerry West isn’t one of them and he is one of the all time best talent evaluators in the league’s history.
True some player insecure of mj 😂
No debate mj the goat 3peat over 3peat. Mj do that. How about lebron??? Lol leave team & recruit 😂😂 to win a chip
11:07 they also feared Bird, kiddo
wilt chamberlain voting for himself is hysterical LMFAOO
Wilt da real 🐐
@@kris9145hell no 😭
@@WcoopW yup 💯
Not the only self proclaimed goat 🥉🤴🏿💾
LeBum too
“We have the answer, and it may not be what you expect.”
Literally, exactly, what I expected.
I think that line applied only to Bron’s fans lmao
@@mora2k the stupper fans lol. They swear “most stats” equals not winning and it surpasses folks
@@johnhathaway735 mmmmmmnmmmmmm my h
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Well he needed us to watch the video.
@@mora2k yeah no shit
That part where players talk about jordan as if hes a higher being is really consistent. Every single "jordan story" telling is delivered with a certain level of awe/mazement in their eyes
Pre social media era, leads to a more mythical feeling, that’s why you won’t really see these kind of story telling about any current nba players. That doesn’t mean Jordan is the best player of all time 😂
@@almightyyeezydab5149 social media is irrelevant here. im talking about those players mentioned in the video. Their own stories about jordan. Your comment dont make sense hahahaha
Yea about how petty and how much of a poor sport he was F him
@@yourname427 say that again without crying this time..
@@omega_pain This whole video is being used as an argument to place Jordan over LeBron. I’m pointing how ridiculous this entire logic is.
The effort that went into this video is the most remarkable thing I have seen in an incredibly long time. This is why you’re the best.
epic, true, and well put together. thank you
You Sir have been on a crazy streak, don't remember seeing a bad or an okay average video from this channel, they're all just great and well constructed
this channel has become so good over the years it's insane. massively impressed
Video of Allen iverson saying Lebron is better than Jordan🤦🏾♂️ ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
@@bandupzay well tbh, I trust jimmy to the point where I believe his research is all valid. He showed like mini proof w the clips of him saying “Jordan, Jordan , LeBron, Jordan”, etc. so even if AI said Bron is better, he prob just switched his answer at some point🤷🏽♂️
What I miss the most and the old theme song and the dolphin sfx. I used to love hearing this track as it instilled that I was going to get a deep dive in whatever Jimmy was going to bring us. It's now nostalgic. But to me it's branded Jimmy.
"Don't like it? That's too bad!"
Please never change, Jxmy.
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
@@bandupzay nobody click this dudes link
@@c_span LMAOOO
I'm always amazed at how little respect Kareem gets, with only 1% of the vote
Granted, he was on his way out of the league as Jordan was taking over, but his resume is far better than LeBron's, and he was the best player in the league through the 70's. 6 rings, 6 MVPs, all-time scoring leader for almost 2 generations. Hard to do that, in LA, and get no love.
I think his legacy gets hurt because the 70s really felt like a transitional era for basketball and Kareem's prime got stuck in that NBA history. That coupled with the fact that most of his championships were won when people considered him the second best player to Magic probably keeps a lot of people from really understanding how good he was.
@@jamiekelley4076 the three greatest of all time in my opinion
1. Michael Jordan
2. Wilt Chamberlain
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
@@glen7137troll
@@jamiekelley4076honestly yeah, if kareem played in a more recent era i guarantee he'd be considered more for the goat
You make great videos man! Definitely my favourite of all people who cover basketball... Great work!
Mike was truly unbelievable. Its so hard to fathom how somebody can be so amazing at the game and then have the perfect career on top of it. Pure excellence.
MJ overrated ong
Yea because Tim Grover had him take steroids ! Look at his body in 89 and look at it in 91! He was juicing for sure
I think he’s the GOAT but he didn’t have a “perfect” career. Just because he’s 6-0 in the finals doesn’t mean he had a perfect career
@@yourname427 steroids don’t help you be better at basketball lmao. It just helps your muscle recover faster so u can keep working out and makes ur muscles bigger
@@yourname427 give me one modern basketball superstar that doesn't take some kind of steroids.
Jimmy: the answer may not be what you think
The players: answered exactly how we all thought
LMAO when he said that I deadass thought Lebron was gonna come out on top
I even thought Kareem will be on top.
😆
Damn did I just spoiled click baited
I don’t care what jxmy says Andrew bogut is the real goat change my mind!😒
Michael Jordan's greatness lives rent free in all our heads for over 40 years. Man's hit the game winning shit in the NCAA 😂
This video is the goat of all 'this video settles the goat debate once and for all' videos ☝
You hit the nail on the head in the last two minutes of the video. Every interview I’ve seen about MJ you can see the emotion in the players faces when talking about him that you don’t see when talking about anyone else. Michael Jordan put the fear of god into his opponents.
Iverson saw his effin' aura for god's sake!
Agreed, but Scottie...
Watered down era
@@bits8031 you're running around talking shit about MJ because Jxmy said (and 60%+ of NBA players) think he's the GOAT LMAOOO get off Bron's schlong my guy
@@bits8031 ydkb
"The result may not be what you think"
It was exactly the result that I was thinking 🤣
😂✊🏼💯
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
And Lobestans still try to use the
"B-B Bu B-But players say kobe is better than Bron 🤥🤥🤥" argument.
This is truly a nightmare video for Lobestans
@@bandupzay Wack
It was a 69
Jordan came through and changed the game and took it by storm even the great players like Dr.j,majic Johnson and Larry bird said that they have never seen a player like Jordan who can hang in the air and score at will
Great video! Really well done
been watching you since 2018, gotta say, since then, the quality of your videos are insane now. and the closers you give, have such a great impact for the message you're telling. the amount of hardwork you put into the research and scripting is something ill never be able to imagine. beautiful video Jimmy
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Fax
true jimmy really don't miss bruh, gotta appreciate
Great vid! Appreciate the work on this one.
Tbh i love jxmys work but in this case i have some argues. Most important, 112 players is not concider a capable sample when we refer to tens of thaousands of players throughout the nba history. Second, sample should be taken equally from players of all decades wich is imposible to do now since players who played in the first decades are no longer alive or to old to even bother to concider participating in this serioucly. Third, an average player's opinion is not having the same importance as the one of a hof. HOF players usually play the game longer. In order to do that they must win more wich means they must be better of others. Being that allou them to understand and critisize others. Also this whould only means something if we somehow have a way to be sure that opinions are authentic and players not gonna change their mind ever, wich as you see from some players is way far from the trouth. So even if i find this channel the best in yt i have doubts about this one.
Scottie saying LeBron's better: "And i took that personally"
😔
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Scottie went from saying "There's not a single situation where I'd pick LeBron over Michael." In the beginning of 2020 to "LeBron is the GOAT" just a couple weeks after a certain documentary aired. I wonder why that is.
I also remember him saying he himself is the GOAT not that long ago.
pippen played with mj he should know better... as much as i love lebron, mj was in league of his own
@@NostalgicMem0ries ikr ? how can 2 three-peats, 1 dpoy, 10 times annual points leader, 6 fmvp, 5 mvp and 6 rings not be better ? I mean the only reason he dont have 6 mvp its because that will make him the devil while he is god 🤣
Jxmy! You NAILED IT!!! This is if not THE BEST. Is one of THE TOP 3 videos about basketball I've EVER WATCHED!!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪🏻🏀
Fun take here. Loved the possessive poll at 7:23
lets just appriciate how much time this man took to find and edit all of this stuff. Just to keep us entertained.
You realized this is his job
And make money
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not that hard. especially when his fans will gargle his sack when they see those ✨graphics✨ or even hear him speak
I am sad that I have only one like button to give
I’m old enough to remember when Wilt would get talked about a lot more in these discussions. It would be curious to see what happens in a decade or two when people in their 40s and 50s never saw MJ play or don’t have any idea what the aura was that surrounded him while he was playing. LeBron is one of one but imagine the 2015-16 Warriors. Now imagine that level of fear in one player. That was Jordan.
Video of Allen iverson saying Lebron is better than Jordan🤦🏾♂️ ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
if anyone still denies MJ's status after his ultimate mixtape, his accomplishments, and records (reg season, post season, and career)...they can never be convinced...probably insist that 2+2=5 as well LOL...MJ was scoring on bigs of the 80's/90's like it was nothing...he'd do everything in his mixtape to today's current players...even Lebron...and probably be in their head and have them out of their game even before tip off with trash talk...
Difference is there really isn’t any videos about wilt
@@V12BenzAMG so all the mj highlights u seen come from the mixtapes ?
Was around for MJ/kobe/bron and if you enjoy MJ/kobe style than Lebron is nowhere on your top list. Wilt "dominated" just like bron does but if you fell in love with basketball cause of finesse and difficulty of shots under pressure its always going to be MJ > Kobe > the rest.
6:20-7:00 you deserve a thumbs-up just for assembling this montage!
Fantastic video and research! 👍🏻💪🏼
The end of this video (11:04) gave me chills... "but they feared MJ..."❄❄ Well done Jxmy!
Cuz they didn’t want their souls snatched
Revered
@@arsalaleem7747 feared & revered 💯nobody want the smoke from his Airness, black jesus 🚬
Been watching Jxmy for a while now and it’s amazing to see the growth within the channel. Carrying on the torch of the likes of Mike Korzemba and telling amazing what ifs and sharing the history of basketball to us younger audiences!
He took the torch from Mike Korzemba years ago bro. I don’t even click on his videos no more…….most of the things he talk about always sound like prior knowledge and boring
GodZemba!
@@RicoSoprano_ I copy that, but I wouldn't rate Mike down.
To be honest, Jimmy's videos are simply very very good and there is reason why people are calling him the g.o.a.t. of NBA videos on youtube. So being worse than the goat is not something anybody should be criticized for.
@@melfox215 no I’m not saying that but something happened with the quality of Mikes videos are maybe he became stagnant and his formula don’t work anymore. I know one thing I don’t want to watch is some fake azz conspiracy videos. He really just needs to stop doing those
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
Excellent video. So well done 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Excellent video and furthering the facts!!
Just when you think Jimmy could not top it, he comes out and does exactly that. Fantastic Stuff Jimmy!
Beeni.
This conversation is so played out. Yes what a revelation
I like the part where he said "Jordan". Jxmy is truly a master of his craft.
On another note, MJ's imprint on the sport is too huge.
Greatest athlete of all time
@@dec6p year right. a big goof playing Basketball. he cant do shit but play BB. can he win a scate contest? can he win gold in gymnastic. no because he is a big goof playing basketball,
he could be good in other sports like volleyball.
I appreciate all the work put in this video. But to me it all boils down to two things:
1- saying you're Goat takes away from your goatness.
2- longevity basically just means that you've been around for so long.
Longevity doesnt just being around for so long, it means playing at an elite level for so many years
I totally agree with your 1st, but sort of disagree with #2. Longevity while still playing at a high level means a lot. Jordan is easily the best IMO, but longevity counts.
@@mattst.germain4023 bro let's say it as it is... So many great careers were ruined by injuries. They don't choose it. It is what it is. Lebron is one of those who where fortunate enough plus the Great genetics to let you stay in shape at a certain age.(Some say PED's.... Whatever) It ain't nothing miraculous about that
Jordan was wholly obsessed with winning like no other player in NBA history. Thats what made him practice more, push his teammates more, and drove his killer instinct to be the best. Not to mention his natural ability was head and shoulders above everyone else. I watched him on TV growing up every chance I got. Saw the commercials. Watched people overseas mob him like a rock star. The NBA grew into an international business because of Jordan. People my age 45-50 know what im talking about. The things the man did on the court were unreal and the NBA blew up because of it. No one has had an impact the way MJ did.
I actually think that Kobe matched Jordan's obsession with winning. But Jordan's physical talent was greater than Kobe's.
amen
Jordan was the only one obsessed? You think he was the only one that practice more? Killer instinct? What does that actually mean? He was th only one to have killer instinct? . Here's the problem. The hype, if a person says MJ the goat all the time, people will believe it. Watched people overseas mob him? They mobbed NBA players.How did he make the NBA an international sport? There's no NBA over here. I'm 57 and what you were saying isn't necessarily accurate, Things on the NBA were unreal, ok. but at the age of 45-50 have you seen Juius Erving play? I don't know about the NBA blew up because of him. What about Magic, Bird, Doc that were before him. David Stern also did a great job of marketing the league.
Bill Russell won more because he had the will to take out the real GOAT
@grosskopf2779
"Jordan was the only one obsessed? You think he was the only one that practice more?"
He is the only one where literally DOZENS of teammates tell stories that their practices were harder than the games, because of him, yes. :) That he only slept a few hours a night, that he was (even with 40) the guy with the most hours in the gym.
"Killer instinct? What does that actually mean?"
What do you think? :) It means what it means. He was relentless, he LIVED to destroy others during games.
Not so "groß", your "kopf", hm? ;)
And as I completely expected Jordan as number one and Kobe being ranked a lot higher in the eyes of his peers than the average Joe. Game recognize game, and if Kobe is seen as the closest thing ever to the GOAT (Jordan) , then of course it stands to reason than he should be ranked higher.
I Agree
You get that too when it's fans who've played any form of competitive ball vs those who are just fans or what have you.
Every person I talk to that I played with whether it be as a teen or playing for my post team in the military, has Kobe as #2 behind Jordan.
They all appreciate the hell out of the blend of different players that makes up lebron but can see that Kobe was a complete different monster while Jordan was even levels higher than Kobe.
Phil Jackson once alluded to something similar. Kobe had that "it" factor like Jordan had, only Jordan had "it" times 10!
Kobe was too inefficient, low basketball iq
roflmao
Bro he’s already high enough I have him at 7th jxmy has him 5th and this video ranked it 3rd THIRD bro how high u think Kobe over Lebron? If u do plz click off
Some needs to put a beat over Jimmy saying the results 💀 😭
on it
@@NoahNewhardMusic tell me when u done
yeah
@@NoahNewhardMusic you done bro?
@@johndoe37893 it’s not that easy lmao
This is very good content, much better than some Netflix documentary 👍👍👍. JXM is the GOAT in basketball youtube channels.
9:46. The only guys from Jordan’s era who didn’t choose Jordan were coincidence? Three guys considered by their generation as “bitter old dudes”.
That’s not a commentary on Bron or anyone else at all. But I find it funny that each of them have some sort of jealousy/unresolved issue with MJ. 😂
The real goat is the friends we made along the way.
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Ur so corny😂
Fax
Nerd
Kobe ranked himself as #1 against MJ & LeBron on the James Corden show BUT he was under pressure & was gonna have to eat disgusting food if he didn't answer lol
Technically he didn’t say he was the GOAT.
i mean i would be confident myself and rank my own to be better than others if i did everything needed to be on the conversation
Kobe on drew league said that with no pressure tho, confidence
@@rougeclips9438 Technically true, but he said he was better than Jordan and LeBron, so I doubt he didn't think he was the GOAT
I think he just said that as a joke because he knew what the audience wanted him to say lol
Verrrrrry good assessment. Completely non biased.
Amazing work 🎉
Mike moved like water through a stream. His dominance was complete and effortless. Once he put put his mark on the league it was Jordan and then everyone else. And it's still Jordan and then everyone else.
Michael Jordan played in a weak expansive league with no one like him. Lebron would’ve been 8-0 in the finals, because he wouldn’t have had to take time off because he was gambling.
Not to mention Jordan is actually so bad at shooting threes it’s Honestly funny. He had one year where he shot 50% on 1 three a game that saved him from being well under 30% from three
If you gave lebron the same team, same era, same everything. He’s not going to small enough for the bad boy pistions to beat on him. People are just stuck on the nostalgia of Jordan. They don’t want to drop the curtain and look at the facts.
Lebron also played wayyyyyyy more hall of famers and super teams
@@kaydenspencer7879 just NO !leflop play WITH more hof and super teams. the eye test is enough, MJ is on another level.
How tf 12 mins of video gone by so fast? Awesome work again!
love the videos dawkins
MJ THE G.O.A.T FOREVER! I LOVE MJ FOREVER ❤
For me it’s always been about “the eye test”. If you spend an hour watching LeBron highlights and then spend an hour watching MJ highlights it’s clear MJ is the better and more talented player.
If you were at a playground watching guys play and MJ and LeBron were among them, if someone asked you who the best on the court was, most people would likely say MJ. He could just do things no one else could.
And once you consider all that, afterwards, when you look at the stats and accolades, it solidifies that MJ is the GOAT… for me, the UNDISPUTED GOAT.
People are never talking about the most crucial part... Competition
Not only is the research incredible on these episodes, but your writing, delivery, editing style, and music selection are on point. You've really become a great cinematographer in addition to being a very cool basketball head. Keep up the great work Jimmy!
I understand the votes for Kobe.
His various serious injuries were painful to watch, with his tremendous will to compete. he achieved a lot in spite of it. And worked on his defense until he was scary.
Heart and willpower that was second to none.
Kobe was Jordan for a lot of millennials.
Its kinda sad that his last 3-4 seasons in the nba made people forget just how dominant and goated he was at his prime.
Mj- Superman ( Air Jordan)
Kobe- Batman( Willpower, Tools/Moves for days)
Both Gods
@T S No it wasn't MJ has the best mentality and work ethic that's why he is the GOAT
@@itsblaze9095 even Phil Jackson said Kobe is the hardest worker the nba ever had.
Every video is always so interesting👏. Good job Jimmy on the content
Being the GOAT...is a combination of Metal toughness, Passion for the game, Leadership & believe in your teammates. With that said MJ- Bulls, Garnett- Timberwolves, A.I-76ers, Kobe-Lakers, all showed these traits in their Careers as much as LeBron doubted himself when with the Cavs..left for Miami then LA...I Truly believe MJ earned his stripes the right way & he stopped playing the game when he felt he had nothing else to prove..much respect to all these NBA greats..twende kazi..🇰🇪
jxmy, whenever i finish watching any of your videos, i am in amazement. you bring so much more information to me which i had never known and you always do extensive research which makes your videos even greater. i am in awe about how you deliver these videos so well, and as a casual nba fan, i wasnt sure there was many new things to be discovered. although you just make me learn something new every time. thank you
Jxmy is the NBA vids goat. You can quote me on that 🐐
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
the amount of research this guy go through for our enterntainment is impressive
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
Very good video, Jimmy.
Lebron knows to flop, knows to team up better stars, knows to turnover, knows to keep the ball to stat pad. My Goat
I am sick and tired of the GOAT debate, but, my man, this video was too good. If I EVER have to debate with someone about this, I'll just send this video. Great stuff, Jimmy!! As always, your uploads are pure quality! Thank you!
I think King James and GOATJ are on the same level, but MJ is a few notches higher.
But the GOAT debate isn’t gonna stop
@@legendarywiimaster they're on the same level but the legacy that MJ left is unmatch
@@glace9069 the legacy of MJ is ridiculous honestly
As a football fan I am glad our's was put to bed 3 weeks ago
@@legendarywiimaster I don't watch basketball I didn't know who Michael Jordan was since no one knows who he is here, but some people still know lebron
When Jordan came back from his retirement in 94-95, this was before social media, but everyone was talking about him as if it was the second coming of Christ. You would walk in the grocery store or metro station, and all you would hear is "Jordan is back!!!" He is the one and only true GOAT this game has ever seen. No one else comes close.
Social media is also the reason he’s never been torn down. He’s actually lucky social media wasn’t around.
@@RicoSoprano_ incorrect , jordan would take it as motivation
Can you go to MJ’s three point percentage, and you’ll see on year where he shot 50% on one three a game. Without that your goat is shooting well below 30% from three. Not to mention the expansion league and lower talent pool than there is today. Mj had the second or third best player in the league on his team. Let’s have lebron and Kawhi team up in the 90’s and they win all the rings the bulls do but even more.
@@aFinessing bro stfu lol you watch too many documentaries about Jordan. Saying the same shit media says your just a bot at this point . I actually watched him play
@@kaydenspencer7879 notice every time LeBron has won a championship he’s had an all star in his team and notice how you didn’t watch jimmys video
Damian Lillard said it best, when MJ stepped into the Cleveland arena everyone felt MJs presence, even LeBron felt it. Kareem on the otherhand was just sitting there like here is my father and im jesus lol
Best take on the goat 🐐 yet. Just a fire 🔥 compilation of the evidence. Thanks for this.
The final minute or so speaking on what makes MJ the Goat was just too clean. Another video well done Jxmy 👑
Video of Kobe saying he is better than Jordan and Lebron🤦🏾♂️ real video ua-cam.com/video/IKsyB3szz7I/v-deo.html
"Is Jordan and...everyone else" what a form to close the video🐐
I think we are in the middle of watching some of the greatest talent that has ever graced the NBA and it's amazing to be able to experience it. But nothing gives me chills like watching Jordan play and being reminded I got to grow up watching him in his prime. Jordan is the GOAT. Always will be.
Not saying he isn't the goat. But like you mention yourself...you grew up watching him. No matter how good a player is today he will probably never give you the same feeling as the player you grew up with, mixed with nostalgia. Just like a lot of adults still love the artists they grew up with (old heads). A lot of natural bias in these discussions
@@simonhersberger682 grew up on Nas but Rakim is the gold standard so I don't believe that logic so I grew up on Nas but I know Rakim or KrsOne are those dudes
🧢 Lebrons legacy is just better his longevity, 10 finals appearances in a tougher era the way he carries himself, his seed look at his kids they both will surly make the nba Jordan’s sons we’re a bust and that’s the problems with these old heads y’all say no one will ever surpass jordan stop it y’all can’t predict the future. Lebron just has done more and is simply better and they older he gets the more I realize he better than MJ
@@yungmayo4037 accomplished less in more years. L
@@yungmayo4037 Bro, you really calling MJ's kids busts because they didn't make the league? How can you predict that both Lebron kids make the league? Practice what you preach. Rarely hear people say no one will ever surpass Jordan. Its just that Lebron will never surpass Jordan even he drags on for another 10 years. 10 finals appearances but with six losses including a garbage bubble chip against a 6th seed Miami with 2 top players injured. Goat can't even break even.
I’d like to preface this by saying that I played basketball in NYC in an all black high school and got my nick name from the brothers playing at The Cage and at Rucker Park. We were all trying to emulate what Larry bird was doing on the playground and it was impossible for us. However, I remember hearing what Pat Riley said, “If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game, I’d choose Michael Jordan, but if I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life, I’d take Larry Bird."
I got my confirmation after watching 3:01 into the video. Exactly what I was thinking of.
6:20 No way you didn't get tongue tied saying Jordan all them damn times.
Hey Jimmy, is there a way for you to calculate how INFLUENTIAL a player was? Meaning, how was the game changed after that player arrived? To me it is obvious how much the game and players have changed via Jordan and now Curry. But I would be curious to see how Dr. J and Kareem affected play after their tenure. And/or if there are other very influential players.
If their was it would be mj by miles
@@rupinderbrar4255 i feel like curry would be close
Most influential list IMO:
1. MJ (changed a bunch of things)
2. Dr. J (Put game "above the rim")
3. Iverson (Put hip-hop style in the game)
4. LeBron (player movement & pass-ball-to-the-open-man during crunch time)
5. Curry (obvious here)
6. Kenny Sailors (first man to shoot jump shot, ever)
7. Harden (step-back)
8. Wilt (widened free throw lane and put goaltending in the game)
9. Hakeem (footwork)
10. Kobe (work-ethic and taking triple-team shots)
@@MrVSaxAndCrew curry has to be higher imo. he literally revolutionized the entire game. if you look at games from before his takeover, everything is different. even the spacing on the court is completely different
Doctor J is what every boomer say’s
no flops, no bouncing to different teams, no customizing your own team roster, no load management. Just trash talk and being able to back that shit up 110%. That's the GOAT.
Great video
The amount of work that went into 06:12 is why JImmy is so loved and respected. Thank you brother for your efforts, you are a one of a kind creator
Kobe’s respect and admiration has always been much higher from his contemporaries and other hoopers than from the fans and the sports media that choose the award winners. Contemporary Testimonials will always be above the opinions of fans and media pundits, most of whom never actually played the sport. Fear and intimidation dont show up in the stat sheet. Kobe was 2nd to only Mike in that department
No cap
Yeah, rip black mamba
Facts he's my 🐐
Kobe beating Ray Allen + Paul Pierce + KG + Rondo (at his best) is always bigger than LBJ's competition. It is notable that Kobe welcomes adversity. I put him next to MJ, even if Wilt and Kareem is in the room.
Lol, depends on when in Kobes career you talking about, I can remember Kobe being the 3rd best player on the Lakers behind Shaq and Eddie Jones, Jordan was the best player on his team from day one, same with LeBron.
Awesome video!
8:45 yeah I always wonder why Kobe isn’t at LEAST top 5. Personally, I think he’s #3
I remember watching MJ when he first came back from baseball. Before that, I thought that he was literally unbeatable. When he got eliminated in 95' I thought maybe he's just not MJ anymore... maybe things are different now and he's just like other great players who maybe got unlucky or beaten sometimes. It was a weird feeling because MJ losing a big game wasn't even on the table before that. Then he came back the next year and he led the greatest team of all time to a championship. When he was back, I felt like he was the same guy who had won the first 3 championships. He was absolutely untouchable. That feeling stayed with me until he took his final shot with the Bulls over Byron Russel to clinch game 6 of the NBA Finals. MJ at his best wouldn't/couldn't lose. Lebron is 95' MJ(45), he's capable of some great play, and winning a championship but he can be beaten by another great player or maybe lose a big series. The greatest players sometimes lose or get outplayed. When Jordan was at his best, he never let me think of him in any other way, he was unbeatable. That's why he's the GOAT.
you know he only played in like 18 games in the 94-95 season right?
Yet, Bird and the Celtics swept Jordan and the bulls in the playoffs TWICE. No wonder when Bird retired Jordan sent him a video saying he was glad he was retiring because he ruined a lot of his games!
Once Bird retired, Jordan began to dominate. But these 2000 and later players and fans aren't up to snuff to truly judge who was the greatest all around player of all time - Larry Joe Bird, the "Legend".
@@libertypastor1307 Larry bird is not the greatest all rounder of all time, grandpa.
@@mr.orangegaming1570 In my opinion he was. You're welcome to your own opinion.
@@libertypastor1307 opinion? Nahh opinions are fine but what your suggesting is completely ridiculous. But it's a free country after all. I can't and won't control what you say
What a beautiful ending to your video. You really evoke emotion with your words, tone, and how you phrase things. Helps your videos stand out even more from the rest of the internet.
MJ intimidation is something else, check the reaction show sum love ua-cam.com/video/gOtp4VcLDZY/v-deo.html
Great video. I wish you mentioned that some of the one's who voted Lebron had a personal problem with Jordan. Like Lambeer and Isiah.
And a lot of the people who voted Jordan idolised him as a child. I don't think NBA players are great people to ask who the GOAT is because they have a more emotional investment in their answer and are more likely to be biased
@@jwil0508-4 They are exactly who you want to ask. How would a fan know more than them? We are watching this stuff on TV, they're in it. With that said, context needs to be considered. If the player has a beef with Jordan it would obviously factor into their opinion.
Great video!✌️😎
Excellent!! When he said "I don't think it's what you expect" I think he meant just how overwhelming MJ won over LBJ. Frankly, I'm not surprised. MJ is the G.O.A.T., and it's not even close. Kudos for a job well done.
I think most casuals would be surprised at how overhelming LBJ won against Kobe. If you judge players by Twitter and UA-cam comments, you would think Lebron is not even top 5 of all time. Most casuals on twitter always said Kobe is better than Lebron lmao.
@@ggh_-ts6pn I myself will place Kobe over LeBron too . Lebron is too pretentious , unnecessarily showing too much aggression even while simple dunks, always seeking limelight and he is too arrogant to be a goat for me. Idc what stats he is having I will rather watch Kobe play whole life rather than LeBron. I always seek humbleness yet complete passion for the game which MJ , Kobe , Dr. J , WIlt have displayed so well.
@@arshitmangi4783 you are casual. Lebron is much better player than kobe. Kobe is not even top 5 of all time while LBJ is 1b to MJ 1a.
@@ggh_-ts6pn "while LBJ is 1b to MJ 1a"
Damn, still holding onto that despite all the overwhelming evidence against it.....LeBron is a clear #2 and MJ is a clear #1. There is no 1a and 1b.
@@inefekt Overwhelming evidence? Statistics tells the opposite. Top scorer of all time while being top 5 in assists and top 5 in blocks, most wins in playoff series, most points in playoff series, most points in 4th quarters and most points in clutch time in playoff series of all time. He is 1b because depending on the metrics you used he can be the GOAT.
7:00 give my man Jimmy some oxygen and some water lol
7:16 thank god for that list, now I can pause lol
So hard to compare various eras, but Wilt set the bar really high when you consider the rule changes that were instituted by the league and while he was in college. In the modern era I would have to go with MJ.
7:09 "There are no accidents."
The part where you say that "almost every player that talk about Jordan have their eyes lighting up" is so true. Thank you for this great video !
I do believe that this podcast era that we are livin in proofs that playing basketball and understand basketball are not the same thing
Bro just made a insane rap with stuff like “ Jordan Jordan Jordan Jordan Jordan lebron kobe wilt Kareem” and other stuff
bruh he counted Wilt and Lebron calling themselves the GOAT lmao, note Jordan never said anyone is GOAT
😂
Exactly
Except while he’s the paying he’s the best right? I’m an mj guy to but the bias is ugly
@@Tbaby47 well hes the best player in the world that time. so he said that. never said "OF ALL TIME" a big difference of present, and overall
No matter what… ain’t no way MJ legacy gonna be forgotten. Decades will go by and MJ will still be sung about.
When MJ dies his legacy will rise even more.
No hate on Lebron/Kobe but this is facts.
Yup. To be honest, Kobe's stock rose when he died. The majority of well-respected lists don't even put him in the top 5 or 10 before the fact. MJ will get cemented on number 1 when that happened - if he hasn't already been cemented anyway.
What a great video!!!
Time to update this! Lets goo!
Hey Jimmy, I watched a lot of these debates, and even your other video on this, and this was most persuasive. Thanks for the hard work brotha!
Bill Russell on Jordan
"I cannot imagine anyone playing any better."
Bill also said that himself was the greatest ever, and also Wilt was the greatest ever. Never could pick.
Russell also told him he couldn't have won those championships in his time
Great research, instant add to my MJ file. The majority players know who the GOAT is. The fans can speculate all they want, the players on the court know.
That is a very interesting angle in the GOAT debate. It is also the most convincing, in my view.
Billy Cunningham on Jordan:
"I think he was the best ever. The whole package. He's scary sometimes with his defense. The passion he had amazes me. At a certain age, it's more difficult to get up for a game. A big game, sure, it's easy. But he did it for every game. How did he do it? To motivate himself at a level to perform. There's no burnout there. It's something within himself. If I had to play him, I'd pray a lot."
Michael Jordan is no doubt the undisputed GOAT. BUT...
As Larry Bird once asked, "Who's getting second?"
I might have Bird as 2nd no cap. The only thing holding Bird back was.. his back. Prime for prime, peak for peak, he's as good as anybody's ever been if you do a deep dive into his career. Too bad he hurt his back early in his career and he sustained that injury throughout his entire prime career.
bird
5:58 “don’t like it that’s too bad” 💀
My top 10 is calculated by ...#1 Eye Test #2 Stats #3 Rules played by #4 Fundamentals #5 Made others better
10- Dirk Knowvitski
9- LeBron
8-Magic
7-Hakeem
6-Kobe
5-Steve Nash
4-David Robinson
3-Kareem
2-MJ
#1 Bird by Faaar.
This video was BACK TO TOP QUALITY. Amazing video, the best of yours in a while, some of your others were just thrown together random facts. But this is what you're best at - putting together a single story around a single narrative.
This has to be one of your best videos to date. It was amazing seeing the results in such detail. On one list I laughed when I saw Wilt and Lebron voting for themselves. I also was very dissappointed to see Pippen switching his vote. The Last Dance really did him in.
Same 😔
Pippen was just jealous. He feels that MJ took his chance to be a superstar from him. He was always being outshined by MJ. He's bitter about it.
@@jumbo9386 and yet Jordan never won without him
@@arthurpeters1996 jordan appreciates pippen more then anyone ,i have no clue why pippen hates him so much(probably cause of last dance XD)
@@arthurpeters1996 Jordan has always appreciated the role pippen played. It's got nothing to do with MJ why scottie is bitter. He's bitter because he's insecure plain and simple.
Death Taxes and the goat debate I actually felt that why is that so true damn.
Longevity is a plus not a minus. Nowhere but in this MJ vs Bron debate can longevity be considered a neg.